God Bless Jerry Roberts, Bill Tutte, Turing, Flowers and all the men and women who worked tirelessly at Bletchley Park, saving millions of lives through their efforts. Bill Tutte moved to Canada after the war and taught at U of Waterloo in Ontario. All the BP folks deserve the highest honours possible. They are true heroes.
An amazing human being. Empathetic to all the loss that war causes with the intelligence to fight fire, not with fire, but with water as well. As were they all at Bletchley.
Capitan Roberts was an amazing man! Thank you a lot for telling us your story here abut how you were breaking Lorenz - Hitler's top level cipher system. Lorenz was much important cipher than Enigma. Here is a video link how the Lorenz worked: Lorenz: Hitler's "Unbreakable" Cipher Machine Capitan Roberts was an amazing man! You are one of my Heroes at Bletchley Park for Britain. RIP Sir.
Incredible breaking the communications between the German field generals and the Central Military High Command and Head of State Imagine reading Roosevelt, Churchill or Stalin’s communications to their generals for how powerful this intelligence was
It goes the other way. Rommel was receiving Allied orders of Battle. This is hardly ever discussed. There was an Italian in the American Embassy in Rome who was seeing Allied Communications which showed the " When and Where's " of Allied movements and logistic support. The Italian spy had great success because the Americans were soft and Arrogant which aloud the Germans to out maneuver the British time and again. Churchill knew there must be a leak in the Allied Communications that showed their Orders of Battle in the Desert. Rommel had great success with a small force. The Afrika Korps was not even an under strength Army. So Allied Security in the Mediterranean, Italy and all Allied Embassies were brought up to strength. Finally the spy was found and aloud to receive misinformation. Rommel's great success as the Allied populations were concerned was chalked up to his Great Fighting skill and Martial prowess. Yes he was a gifted Soldier but he was being fed the Allied Order of Battle and logistic support. So the tables were turned due to the people at Bletchley. The Room 40 boys and Joan Clarke fighting their own war supplied the Fighting Forces on the ground with a Weapon worth 10 Nuclear bombs. Monty received this info and made great use of it. The fuel carrying ships were sunk every time outside of Tobruk and denied the Afrika Korps with much needed fuel and supplies. Fuel , Ammo , food and fresh potable water were denied to the Germans. This had such an effect on Rommel's Korps it soon lost its fighting capacity. Rommel was defeated in the Dessert. Total collapse. Rommel was in Germany for this collapse and saved for the upcoming invasion of Europe.
CANUSA Kommando .....No such thing in Rome....the Italian secret service entered the US Embassy using their own set of keys, including to the Embassadors safe, where they removed and copied his Diplomatic code book, returning it to the safe......then passing the copy of that code book on to the German Army Abwehr secret service "for a fee"........Read the NEW book...."The Third Reich is Listening-German code-breaking in World War Two by author Christian Jennings, released and published in October 2018.....(also outlines the ten (10) completely different and seperately run, (with no cooperation between them throughout the war), of German secret cryptographic services of different agencies.......also read The TICOM Archives....! Do your proper homework.....! Great international recognition and credit is owed to Bill Tutte, Tom Flowers and Jerry Roberts (read Jerrys new book: Lorenz)
I thought it was the American Embassy in Cairo where the US Military Attaché filed very detailed reports which the Germans were reading By one of the strange coincidences of war the Americans upgraded their diplomatic cryptography just before El Alamein and ended the Germans access
Recognition was the LAST thing these people wanted after the war! Imagine how many ex spies, generals, admirals etc. would blame their defeat on these people. People serving on the front lines, where defeat means the death of comrades, humiliation, and the loss or destruction of ones own homeland, are not likely to appreciate the great intellectual achievement made by these men. They be quite happy to see them hanged! Anonymity was their best hope for a long normal life. It was also the best way of keeping the secret from the Russians who were typing away on captured German code machines for another 10 years or so.
True, colossus 2 was moved to GCHQ and used to decipher Russian transmissions for many years, hence why only Enigma was declassified, while Tunney/ Lorenz remained classified for another 50 years
I've went through the whole speech of Jerry Roberts and what strikes me the most here, is what he speaks at the end about lack of proper recognition for "Three Key Man" in breaking the german codes. But what else is he doing himself by not saying a word about THE OTHER THREE KEY MEN IN BREAKING GERMAN CODES? Even no single mention or 'thank you' from you. That's really, really sad... :( And they are: Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski, Jerzy Różycki - who actually have breaken the code long before War and presented all their knowledge in the summer 1939 to the British Intelligence who visited Poland.
nonseans The Polish codebreakers set the BP cryptographers on the correct path with their unique insights into the Enigma. JR was involved in the much more complicated 'Tunny' cipher and not related to the Enigma; while the Polish contribution was invaluable for the initial entry into Enigma, it had little to do with the Lorenz system, so the gentleman is entirely correct with his accreditations.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MANIAC. THIS IS OUR--TRIBUTE TO OUR--MEN AT BLETCHLEY, YOU DO YOUR OWN--TRIBUTE ON YOUR OWN COUNTRY'S VIDEO. NO MENTION OF THE FRENCH HELP, OR THE GERMAN WHO GAVE THE CODE BOOKS TO THE POLES ??
The Poles built a German Army/Airforce 3 rotor Steckerbrett Enigma replica derived from only an operators manual and some other documents. Then using mathematical permutations derived the 3 rotor wirings. They then broke the key structure. They also built the first electro-mechanical machine which they called the "Bomba" to assist in cracking the keys more quickly. As the Poles were reading the German messages they knew Poland would fall so ... On the 25th July 1939 the Poles gave a Replica Enigma, their notes and decryption techniques and a "Bomba" to Commander Alastair Denniston, Dilly Knox, and Commander Humphrey Sandwith of British CG&CS. The British used that to design, mathematics and notes to build a similar and superior machine. The Brits named their new machine the "Bombe" presumably as a nod to the Poles. However the "Bombe" was never successful in breaking the German Navy Enigma keys, the Brits did however decode the Navy messages using captured Navy key books. The Poles in exile may not have worked on directly the Lorenze (code named Tunny) cipher but they continued to work closely with the Brits on many cryptanalysis projects.
you forgot to mention how the poles kept shtum about it for 6 yrs. After the fall of poland, they worked for the french vichy govt, and then for the polish govt in excile in the uk, where they were deciphering russian communications
the term "wolf pack" was an American term but it seemed a good one here. Churchill kept the work at Bletchley a secret and perhaps that is why the ..Americans made the computer
To a degree yes. British WW2 computers were national secrets, and were supposed to remain so for 99 years. However, Britain still had developments like the Manchester mk 1
As part of his plan to get America to join the war, Churchill decided to share Britain's intelligence with America (never-before had two countries shared their own intelligence) and from then both sides were the working on German codes by similar methods.
*Maj. Dennis Oswald* from the Testery should be more famous than L.H. Oswald, the Killer. I say this because a very good friend of mine carries the same last name...
God Bless Jerry Roberts, Bill Tutte, Turing, Flowers and all the men and women who worked tirelessly at Bletchley Park, saving millions of lives through their efforts.
Bill Tutte moved to Canada after the war and taught at U of Waterloo in Ontario.
All the BP folks deserve the highest honours possible. They are true heroes.
I went to Bletchley a few weeks ago. I am totally in awe of these people and the outstanding contribution they all made shortening the war.
RIP. Captain Raymond 'Jerry' Roberts
18th November 1920 to 25th March 2014
Britain has lost an absolute legend :(
An amazing human being. Empathetic to all the loss that war causes with the intelligence to fight fire, not with fire, but with water as well. As were they all at Bletchley.
Capitan Roberts was an amazing man! Thank you a lot for telling us your story here abut how you were breaking Lorenz - Hitler's top level cipher system. Lorenz was much important cipher than Enigma. Here is a video link how the Lorenz worked: Lorenz: Hitler's "Unbreakable" Cipher Machine Capitan Roberts was an amazing man! You are one of my Heroes at Bletchley Park for Britain. RIP Sir.
Love, love, love this video! Thank you for uploading it!
Incredible breaking the communications between the German field generals and the Central Military High Command and Head of State
Imagine reading Roosevelt, Churchill or Stalin’s communications to their generals for how powerful this intelligence was
It goes the other way. Rommel was receiving Allied orders of Battle. This is hardly ever discussed.
There was an Italian in the American Embassy in Rome who was seeing Allied Communications which showed the " When and Where's " of Allied movements and logistic support.
The Italian spy had great success because the Americans were soft and Arrogant which aloud the Germans to out maneuver the British time and again.
Churchill knew there must be a leak in the Allied Communications that showed their Orders of Battle in the Desert.
Rommel had great success with a small force. The Afrika Korps was not even an under strength Army.
So Allied Security in the Mediterranean, Italy and all Allied Embassies were brought up to strength. Finally the spy was found and aloud to receive misinformation.
Rommel's great success as the Allied populations were concerned was chalked up to his Great Fighting skill and Martial prowess.
Yes he was a gifted Soldier but he was being fed the Allied Order of Battle and logistic support.
So the tables were turned due to the people at Bletchley.
The Room 40 boys and Joan Clarke fighting their own war supplied the Fighting Forces on the ground with a Weapon worth 10 Nuclear bombs.
Monty received this info and made great use of it.
The fuel carrying ships were sunk every time outside of Tobruk and denied the Afrika Korps with much needed fuel and supplies. Fuel , Ammo , food and fresh potable water were denied to the Germans.
This had such an effect on Rommel's Korps it soon lost its fighting capacity.
Rommel was defeated in the Dessert.
Total collapse. Rommel was in Germany for this collapse and saved for the upcoming invasion of Europe.
if you have a leak and you find it you can use it to sew disinformation. It becomes a temporary asset by default
CANUSA Kommando .....No such thing in Rome....the Italian secret service entered the US Embassy using their own set of keys, including to the Embassadors safe, where they removed and copied his Diplomatic code book, returning it to the safe......then passing the copy of that code book on to the German Army Abwehr secret service "for a fee"........Read the NEW book...."The Third Reich is Listening-German code-breaking in World War Two by author Christian Jennings, released and published in October 2018.....(also outlines the ten (10) completely different and seperately run, (with no cooperation between them throughout the war), of German secret cryptographic services of different agencies.......also read The TICOM Archives....! Do your proper homework.....! Great international recognition and credit is owed to Bill Tutte, Tom Flowers and Jerry Roberts (read Jerrys new book: Lorenz)
This sheds no light on the breaking of the Tunny code. But thanks anyways.
I thought it was the American Embassy in Cairo where the US Military Attaché filed very detailed reports which the Germans were reading
By one of the strange coincidences of war the Americans upgraded their diplomatic cryptography just before El Alamein and ended the Germans access
you sir, are we in usa refer to as the greatest generation. I thank you very much indeed.
Awesome
This is great stuff
WONDERFUL PEOPLE OF BOTH SEXES. WHAT A GENERATION THAT WAS.
Recognition was the LAST thing these people wanted after the war!
Imagine how many ex spies, generals, admirals etc. would blame their defeat on these people. People serving on the front lines, where defeat means the death of comrades, humiliation, and the loss or destruction of ones own homeland, are not likely to appreciate the great intellectual achievement made by these men.
They be quite happy to see them hanged!
Anonymity was their best hope for a long normal life.
It was also the best way of keeping the secret from the Russians who were typing away on captured German code machines for another 10 years or so.
True, colossus 2 was moved to GCHQ and used to decipher Russian transmissions for many years, hence why only Enigma was declassified, while Tunney/ Lorenz remained classified for another 50 years
Tutte now has an interesting memorial in Newmarket
I've went through the whole speech of Jerry Roberts and what strikes me the most here, is what he speaks at the end about lack of proper recognition for "Three Key Man" in breaking the german codes. But what else is he doing himself by not saying a word about THE OTHER THREE KEY MEN IN BREAKING GERMAN CODES? Even no single mention or 'thank you' from you. That's really, really sad... :(
And they are: Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski, Jerzy Różycki - who actually have breaken the code long before War and presented all their knowledge in the summer 1939 to the British Intelligence who visited Poland.
nonseans The Polish codebreakers set the BP cryptographers on the correct path with their unique insights into the Enigma. JR was involved in the much more complicated 'Tunny' cipher and not related to the Enigma; while the Polish contribution was invaluable for the initial entry into Enigma, it had little to do with the Lorenz system, so the gentleman is entirely correct with his accreditations.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MANIAC. THIS IS OUR--TRIBUTE TO OUR--MEN AT BLETCHLEY, YOU DO YOUR OWN--TRIBUTE ON YOUR OWN COUNTRY'S VIDEO. NO MENTION OF THE FRENCH HELP, OR THE GERMAN WHO GAVE THE CODE BOOKS TO THE POLES ??
The Poles built a German Army/Airforce 3 rotor Steckerbrett Enigma replica derived from only an operators manual and some other documents. Then using mathematical permutations derived the 3 rotor wirings. They then broke the key structure. They also built the first electro-mechanical machine which they called the "Bomba" to assist in cracking the keys more quickly.
As the Poles were reading the German messages they knew Poland would fall so ... On the 25th July 1939 the Poles gave a Replica Enigma, their notes and decryption techniques and a "Bomba" to Commander Alastair Denniston, Dilly Knox, and Commander Humphrey Sandwith of British CG&CS.
The British used that to design, mathematics and notes to build a similar and superior machine. The Brits named their new machine the "Bombe" presumably as a nod to the Poles. However the "Bombe" was never successful in breaking the German Navy Enigma keys, the Brits did however decode the Navy messages using captured Navy key books.
The Poles in exile may not have worked on directly the Lorenze (code named Tunny) cipher but they continued to work closely with the Brits on many cryptanalysis projects.
you forgot to mention how the poles kept shtum about it for 6 yrs. After the fall of poland, they worked for the french vichy govt, and then for the polish govt in excile in the uk, where they were deciphering russian communications
11:30 what is the other book? The one by Copland and others is mentioned.
the term "wolf pack" was an American term but it seemed a good one here. Churchill kept the work at Bletchley a secret and perhaps that is why the ..Americans made the computer
To a degree yes. British WW2 computers were national secrets, and were supposed to remain so for 99 years. However, Britain still had developments like the Manchester mk 1
As part of his plan to get America to join the war, Churchill decided to share Britain's intelligence with America (never-before had two countries shared their own intelligence) and from then both sides were the working on German codes by similar methods.
Who and where is professor wallaby?
Ucl, thanks for have a priceless student and professors.
*Maj. Dennis Oswald* from the Testery should be more famous than L.H. Oswald, the Killer. I say this because a very good friend of mine carries the same last name...
Who else is doing this for a class????