First let me say thank you, thank you, thank you so very much for your channel and all of the wisdom that you share with us!!! This information is so valuable!! Doesn't matter how much you pay per pound or where in the world you get your coffee or even how much you paid for the device you use to brew with! Without good water it's all in vain!!! At home we have the techniform moccamaster KBT-741. In the camper we use the Breville Precision Brewer. Both are excellent, ( but you can see which one is used at home and used every day) and they each have their advantages and disadvantages. (We also carry a Techniform "one cup" in the camper) I couldn't agree more with you about City water and all of the chlorine! When we started making our own coffee water, like what you shared with us today, it really made me happy and truly appreciate my morning coffee! I only have 2 cups of coffee in the morning so I don't want just a regular old cup...if you know what I mean. We don't feel it's geeky to make our own water for our morning cup....we feel it's the right thing to do to make the mornings so much better! Please stay safe and healthy out there buddy 😉
Yea its the trickiest part in helping people brew great coffee. I think most people are in a situation where the quality of the water is not great for brewing coffee, and in some situations actually makes it impossible to brew a good cup (but you wouldn't know this without the perspective).
I am very glad that you address this topic, for, as you mentioned, the water question is highly critical in brewing coffee. I discovered a couple years ago the very valuable information provided by Barista Hustle, and since then I consistently and 'religiously' make up a specific water for my coffee. And when travelling, I would also bring along a thermos flask filled up with it, just to avoid the frustrating hazards resulting from brewing with whatever water that I may have to hand.
Thanks! I'm still pretty lazy with it. Every now and then I do a new batch ... and the coffee really is better than when I use my filtered water. but coffee still delicious when I use just filtered, and i'm lazy.
I’m not sure if I did something wrong. I have been using Third Wave Water for months and it’s been great. I made some of this today and used it and it was the worst coffee I’ve ever made. 500g distilled water + 8.6g arm and hammer baking soda (not powder) + 25g Equate Epsom Salt (pure, nothing added). Shook up every hour for three hours. Poured 1000g distilled water + 4g water concentrate. This was my exact process. Any thoughts on what went wrong??
Hi there, did you figure out why you’re not having good results with this recipe? I have to say this videos got me confused, I’ve just started making my own brew water using the barista hustle recipe but their latest recipe from 2019 on their website is nothing like this one, the buffer solution is 1.68g for 1000ml and the hardener is 2.45g for 1000ml, use different ratios of these to create different recipes. The recipe this guy is using seems to use a heck of a lot of soda and magnesium, though if you’re only meant to use 2g per 500g of water maybe it’s not too much.
Try less concentrate. I tried the recommended recipe and didn't like the coffee either. I lowered the dose of concentrate by 30% and it's much better. Still experimenting to determine my ideal recipe, but even with this new ratio the coffee is excellent.
Thank you for simplifying this! I’m just venturing into the topic and don’t want to get too crazy, but I do want to make the best Coffee I can in the simplest way. So much to learn about, but a simple brew water recipe is a good start. I have a Zero Water filter that creates a TDS of zero, so I can add to that. What should the TDS be in the regular brew water? I’m getting about 250 ppm.
I've been curious about that zero water filter. Good to hear it actually does create a TDS 0. As for your other question, SCA details a range, 250 is the top end, you can read more here - www.scaa.org/?d=water-standards&page=resources
Distilled water is a NO-GO for espresso machines, since it means corrosion. Ask a y technician or watch a video or two on RUclips. Used filtered water that takes away calcium, then add your minerals.
Made this water recipe and it was perfect! I'll include the recipe for espresso in the reply. I did a taste test at work used a Mr Coffee drip coffee maker with Community Coffee. I used tap water, ZeroWater, distilled water from a store and ZeroWater and your method (Barista Hustle version 1) and 4 coworker and myself as test victims By itself the distilled water and ZeroWater was disgusting It tasted nasty and it was weak. The tap water was better and what everyone is used to until we tried... Barista Hustle recipe with ZeroWater. It had the best flavor and aroma and really brought out the flavor in the coffee. This method even made our basic Maxwell House coffee that's been sitting around in canisters for god knows how long taste better. I'm not a professional coffee connoisseur but I know what tastes good I know what taste gross and I know what stale coffee tastes like that's been sitting around forever. Also on the Barista Hustle website I tried the espresso water ratio. Once again i did the 4 taste tests and the ZeroWater Barista Hustle espresso water recipe blew everything away. Thank you for being one of the few people who actually posted the link to Barista Hustle. Barista Hustle Espresso Water Recipe: For solution: 12.9g baking soda 25g Epson salt 500g distilled water Mix 3.5g solution per 1 liter of distilled water to make coffee water for espresso. Came out perfect Even on a cheap $20 Mi Familia 4 shot espresso maker with Cafe Bustelo and Pilon espresso ground coffee. Gonna get whole bean next!
Moreover for me is calcium issues with bottled water...I got a dual boiler and they are a bitch to Descale at home so I'd rather have a low calcium water....do you know the carbonate hardness of the water you made? Thanks
I don't off the top of my head. But you should be able to find the information digging through here - www.baristahustle.com/blog/diy-water-recipes-redux/
Alright thanks. Is purified water also a type of distilled water? And lastly I figured out this recipe is the (No.7 Pretty Hard) recipe. In your opinion, Which Barista Hustle recipe is best for Light Roasts?
As for purified/distilled ... In my experience distilled water has no minerals, just straight H2O, which is what you want ... I'd guess that purified doesn't necessarily equate to that. As for your second question, I haven't tested enough different types of crafted water to give you a good answer. I still often lazily default to filtered water, because my tap water here is pretty good already. If I ever do a comparison i'll end up making another video for that though.
Instead of concentrates, why not put a smaller amount of the powders directly into the water? i.e. Third Wave Water, but you make it yourself (much cheaper!). Baking soda sitting in water for more than a few days can feed bacteria. If you're using a concentrate, it's probably sitting a lot longer than if you just had one gallon mixed up.
good question. I haven't tried it that way, but my guess is that the amounts you need for a gallon are difficult to measure correctly on a small scale like that. Not much is needed to make the concentrate, and then very little of the concentrate is needed for each gallon.
Thanks for the great content and I think you have beautiful eyes in a nice smile. I married so I'm not hitting on you I'm just passing on a compliment :) lol
This makes coffee no fun anymore. All I use is distilled water and my coffee is DELICIOUS! I used to use mineral water and the coffee was awful so I bought a water distiller and things have changed at my house! Everyone wants coffee now!!
Well I often do use bottled spring water. But the crafted water is more precise, and does still make a difference even over the bottled water ... just with a lot more effort. So depends on how much you want to get into it. You can definitely have a great experience just with bottled water
There's enough science and demonstrated difference for it to be very real. That being said, I think you have to be used to tasting coffee to notice, so for most people it's not worth the effort. But if you are used to tasting different coffees, you can very easily tell distinct differences.
@@Coffeeloversmag Have you ever compared the particulate ratios between bottled water (assuming the label is accurate) and crafted water? I'm not trying to be overly pedantic.
First let me say thank you, thank you, thank you so very much for your channel and all of the wisdom that you share with us!!! This information is so valuable!! Doesn't matter how much you pay per pound or where in the world you get your coffee or even how much you paid for the device you use to brew with! Without good water it's all in vain!!! At home we have the techniform moccamaster KBT-741. In the camper we use the Breville Precision Brewer. Both are excellent, ( but you can see which one is used at home and used every day) and they each have their advantages and disadvantages. (We also carry a Techniform "one cup" in the camper) I couldn't agree more with you about City water and all of the chlorine! When we started making our own coffee water, like what you shared with us today, it really made me happy and truly appreciate my morning coffee! I only have 2 cups of coffee in the morning so I don't want just a regular old cup...if you know what I mean. We don't feel it's geeky to make our own water for our morning cup....we feel it's the right thing to do to make the mornings so much better! Please stay safe and healthy out there buddy 😉
Yea its the trickiest part in helping people brew great coffee. I think most people are in a situation where the quality of the water is not great for brewing coffee, and in some situations actually makes it impossible to brew a good cup (but you wouldn't know this without the perspective).
I am very glad that you address this topic, for, as you mentioned, the water question is highly critical in brewing coffee. I discovered a couple years ago the very valuable information provided by Barista Hustle, and since then I consistently and 'religiously' make up a specific water for my coffee. And when travelling, I would also bring along a thermos flask filled up with it, just to avoid the frustrating hazards resulting from brewing with whatever water that I may have to hand.
Thanks! I'm still pretty lazy with it. Every now and then I do a new batch ... and the coffee really is better than when I use my filtered water. but coffee still delicious when I use just filtered, and i'm lazy.
Thanks for doing this video. Always wondered about the water in my brew. That is a simple recipe I will be using.
I’m not sure if I did something wrong. I have been using Third Wave Water for months and it’s been great. I made some of this today and used it and it was the worst coffee I’ve ever made.
500g distilled water + 8.6g arm and hammer baking soda (not powder) + 25g Equate Epsom Salt (pure, nothing added). Shook up every hour for three hours. Poured 1000g distilled water + 4g water concentrate. This was my exact process.
Any thoughts on what went wrong??
Hi there, did you figure out why you’re not having good results with this recipe? I have to say this videos got me confused, I’ve just started making my own brew water using the barista hustle recipe but their latest recipe from 2019 on their website is nothing like this one, the buffer solution is 1.68g for 1000ml and the hardener is 2.45g for 1000ml, use different ratios of these to create different recipes. The recipe this guy is using seems to use a heck of a lot of soda and magnesium, though if you’re only meant to use 2g per 500g of water maybe it’s not too much.
Try less concentrate. I tried the recommended recipe and didn't like the coffee either. I lowered the dose of concentrate by 30% and it's much better. Still experimenting to determine my ideal recipe, but even with this new ratio the coffee is excellent.
thank you so much of content on this video because of water is one of two main things coffee brewing
Thank you for simplifying this! I’m just venturing into the topic and don’t want to get too crazy, but I do want to make the best Coffee I can in the simplest way. So much to learn about, but a simple brew water recipe is a good start. I have a Zero Water filter that creates a TDS of zero, so I can add to that. What should the TDS be in the regular brew water? I’m getting about 250 ppm.
I've been curious about that zero water filter. Good to hear it actually does create a TDS 0. As for your other question, SCA details a range, 250 is the top end, you can read more here - www.scaa.org/?d=water-standards&page=resources
Thanks. Nice and simple.
great video...new knowledge for me in water for brewing
I'm gonna be getting more into this soon. Going to experiment with different water recipes and see what I can find out.
Since you live in Seattle, consider buying a Custom Pure MB Series water filter. It's way better than a Brita or Pur.
Question about Epsom salts. I noticed there are food grade Epsom salts as well... Are there any differences between Epsom salts?
I haven't looked at the difference.
Distilled water is a NO-GO for espresso machines, since it means corrosion. Ask a y technician or watch a video or two on RUclips.
Used filtered water that takes away calcium, then add your minerals.
Made this water recipe and it was perfect! I'll include the recipe for espresso in the reply.
I did a taste test at work used a Mr Coffee drip coffee maker with Community Coffee.
I used tap water, ZeroWater, distilled water from a store and ZeroWater and your method (Barista Hustle version 1) and 4 coworker and myself as test victims
By itself the distilled water and ZeroWater was disgusting It tasted nasty and it was weak.
The tap water was better and what everyone is used to until we tried...
Barista Hustle recipe with ZeroWater. It had the best flavor and aroma and really brought out the flavor in the coffee.
This method even made our basic Maxwell House coffee that's been sitting around in canisters for god knows how long taste better.
I'm not a professional coffee connoisseur but I know what tastes good I know what taste gross and I know what stale coffee tastes like that's been sitting around forever.
Also on the Barista Hustle website I tried the espresso water ratio.
Once again i did the 4 taste tests and the ZeroWater Barista Hustle espresso water recipe blew everything away.
Thank you for being one of the few people who actually posted the link to Barista Hustle.
Barista Hustle Espresso Water Recipe:
For solution:
12.9g baking soda
25g Epson salt
500g distilled water
Mix 3.5g solution per 1 liter of distilled water to make coffee water for espresso.
Came out perfect Even on a cheap $20 Mi Familia 4 shot espresso maker with Cafe Bustelo and Pilon espresso ground coffee. Gonna get whole bean next!
Moreover for me is calcium issues with bottled water...I got a dual boiler and they are a bitch to Descale at home so I'd rather have a low calcium water....do you know the carbonate hardness of the water you made? Thanks
I don't off the top of my head. But you should be able to find the information digging through here - www.baristahustle.com/blog/diy-water-recipes-redux/
This was so helpful, thank you
Hi guys,
my concentrate has been crystalising. More so when I store it in the fridge. Any idea why?
Here's a issue! There's a Distilled water that isn't ph7 ... Ppl tested the bottle water and found it to be acidic... Any thoughts?
That's odd. I don't know what to make of that. I know that my experiments with basic bottled distilled from the store have produced a good water.
Alright thanks. Is purified water also a type of distilled water? And lastly I figured out this recipe is the (No.7 Pretty Hard) recipe. In your opinion, Which Barista Hustle recipe is best for Light Roasts?
As for purified/distilled ... In my experience distilled water has no minerals, just straight H2O, which is what you want ... I'd guess that purified doesn't necessarily equate to that. As for your second question, I haven't tested enough different types of crafted water to give you a good answer. I still often lazily default to filtered water, because my tap water here is pretty good already. If I ever do a comparison i'll end up making another video for that though.
Mineral water or RO
Instead of concentrates, why not put a smaller amount of the powders directly into the water? i.e. Third Wave Water, but you make it yourself (much cheaper!). Baking soda sitting in water for more than a few days can feed bacteria. If you're using a concentrate, it's probably sitting a lot longer than if you just had one gallon mixed up.
good question. I haven't tried it that way, but my guess is that the amounts you need for a gallon are difficult to measure correctly on a small scale like that. Not much is needed to make the concentrate, and then very little of the concentrate is needed for each gallon.
Here I wss brewing coffee and tea with the most pure water I could find...
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Thanks for the great content and I think you have beautiful eyes in a nice smile. I married so I'm not hitting on you I'm just passing on a compliment :) lol
well thank you for the compliment!
This makes coffee no fun anymore. All I use is distilled water and my coffee is DELICIOUS! I used to use mineral water and the coffee was awful so I bought a water distiller and things have changed at my house! Everyone wants coffee now!!
Why not use bottled water,? It has the same particulates found in spring water.
Well I often do use bottled spring water. But the crafted water is more precise, and does still make a difference even over the bottled water ... just with a lot more effort. So depends on how much you want to get into it. You can definitely have a great experience just with bottled water
@@Coffeeloversmag I wonder how much of the placebo effect comes into play regarding crafted water vs spring water.
There's enough science and demonstrated difference for it to be very real. That being said, I think you have to be used to tasting coffee to notice, so for most people it's not worth the effort. But if you are used to tasting different coffees, you can very easily tell distinct differences.
@@Coffeeloversmag Have you ever compared the particulate ratios between bottled water (assuming the label is accurate) and crafted water? I'm not trying to be overly pedantic.
If you want to dive into water structure details I'd recommend starting here - www.baristahustle.com/blog/diy-water-recipes-redux/