Plz read before commenting about the Israel-Gaza bit: A lot of people are misinterpreting this bit so I'll clarify. Go to the description of his Pine Gap video: ruclips.net/video/XHMa-Ba-2Mo/видео.html. You will find the exact same Michael West article that I cite (source 2). If you read it, the expert interviewed said that the aim of Pine Gap's surveillance would be to reduce civilian casualties, i.e. Boy Boy lied about what his *own source* said. Is it still possible that the expert is wrong and Pine Gap is used for malicious intentions in Gaza? Absolutely. However, Boy Boy has not cited any evidence that supports that conclusion, instead he cites evidence to the contrary. Saying "well look at what's happening in Gaza, if Pine Gap is being used, then clearly it's being used to attack civilians" relies on assumptions and a misunderstanding of Israel's role in the conflict. Of all the U.S. and Australia's faults, they clearly don't have the same callous disregard for human life that Israel have, so you can't just assume that they would help Israel with that. And plus, Israel don't just explicitly target civilians for the sake of it, they just don't really care if they get in their way. So if there's a small chance if, say, a hospital is a secret Hamas base, they will take that change because they don't really care if they are wrong. But if, say, Pine Gap gave them intelligence that gave them a high degree of confidence that a certain target was actually a Hamas base, they would obviously use that. i.e. Pine Gap could lower the chance that a given target is not Hamas. Once again, I don't actually know if Pine Gap is being used maliciously or not, all I'm saying is that you'd need evidence and you can't just assume so. The only evidence Boy Boy cited contradicts him.
yeah no cause that he's saying is isreal isnt just targeting hamas. They dont care about civilians. Thats what a genocide is. They're bombing the hospitals so more civilians die, not cause there is a chance hamas is in there
"Of all the U.S. and Australia's faults, they clearly don't have the same callous disregard for human life that Israel have..." I have nothing on Australia, but U.S. really?! Alright let's go: 1. Nagasaki, Japan. See the first nuclear bomb used in Hiroshima, may have been used to end WW2 for good. But the second wasn't necessary, because the U.S. already knew Japan were going to surrender however you can't officially surrender in 3 days time (the Germans took 3 months after Hitler ended himself), and the U.S. knew that "Fat Boy" was dropped in Nagasaki just to try what a higher yield nuclear bomb would do to a big metropolis. I guess trying the power of nuclear bombs on the innocent isn't a callous disregard for human life. 2. Cambodia and Laos. The U.S. carpet bombed both those countries for the crimes of bordering Vietnam. Both are still suffering from that to this with literally tons of unexploded ordinance scattered through out both countries. Fun fact, actually it's not fun at all it's pretty sad: Population wise Laos was hit the worse, with about the equivalent of 2 tons of TNT being dropped into Laos per person living there. That's just the US giving free explosives, not a callous disregard for human life I'm sure. 3. Backing up dictator, after dictator if they had access to resource, but more importantly if they weren't communist. Here's just a few names you may know: Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Adolf Hitler (before WWII had started), Augusto Pinochet, and so many more.
@@MartaeAUFeel like RUclips may have hidden my last comment, thus I'm rewording it, if you see it twice I'm sorry. 4. It is debatable, because they never arrived to a conclusion. But pretty much every other 3 letter agency (DOJ, DEA and FBI) believed they did it, the CIA just never admitted to clandestine operation on U.S. soil. Also I got it wrong it wasn't for funding the war on terror, 5. That time a U.S. president, it was Obama, won a Noble Peace prize, and followed it by authorizing drone strikes that killed civilians, including children and even U.S. citizens. 6. The time U.S. overthrew the democratic elected president of Bolivia. How dare Bolivia elect a socialist president. 7. The time the U.S. funded the military dictatorship of Egypt, Trump even said Sisi was is favorite dictator. 8. The time U.S. supported 30 authoritarian regimes, that time is the present day by the way. If Pine Gap is being used to reduce casualties, like official sources state, than it's biggest failure in modern surveillance history, given Israel managed to stack up more casualties in 3 months of invading Gaza, than Russia did in 3 years of invading Ukraine. Either the U.S./Australia intel is abysmal, or maybe Pine Gap is being used for another purpose. EDIT: The previous comment didn't actually disappear or get hidden by RUclips just wasn't loading properly. I've deleted it to minimize confusion.
The only reason Russia in the 90s was "peaceful" and wasn't expected to invade former Soviet states was because they were too weak at that time. They barely beat down a rebellious tiny chunk like Chechnya. My country joined the EU and NATO specifically to guarantee safety from Russia, and then, a handful of years later, Russia invaded Georgia, proving our fears right.
That's why my Syrian friend hates americans. My vietnamese friend's grandparent have horrible stories about American liberation. Iraqis were really welcoming of the americans. I mean hey, Laos getting free bombs? More than Japan? Sign me up!
It blows my mind that Chechnya had balls of steel to go up against Russia and was so cut throat (literally) about their wars. Yet here we are and a considerable chunk of them are willing to die for Russia.
That was the only Boy Boy video I had to turn off. To add some context and perhaps a bit of sympathy, Aleksa is a Serbian Yugoslav war refugee, and Alex's parents are Russian. With this background, it's easy to see how they might develop a "U.S. bad, Russia good" worldview. Take their political videos with a grain of salt.
They are irrefutably anti-west; for good reason. You can’t really blame them when Aleska’s homes were torn down by war and NATO intervention. I’m guessing it has just led to them leaning towards the left.
This is the only boy boy video I am ever gonna watch. Such a high level of purposeful disinformation cannot just be taken with a "grain of salt" it has to be straight up discarded.
isnt the guy serbian? I dont assume all serbians are yugoslav appologists but this guy is perfect example of that. Might even be reason he supports Russian propaganda etc
His ukraine video was when I had to stop watching both Boy Boy and I did a thing. I actually had an argument with him in the comments section of that video where I pointed out many obvious issues with his theory about the war. I don't think he is in bed with the russians, I honestly just think it is because he grew up in a post soviet country and has a bias against the US. He reminds me of my Russian friends from high school who were great to hand out with, but had clearly drunk some of the coolaid being produced back in the motherland.
I think he very clearly is a Russian asset. Look at the right wing media on youtube just this week. You think they wouldn't do the same to other country's content creators? That'd be naive to assume it's only an american problem.
@@skepsisrollins1711 Here's the main difference, no leftist content creators have been found to be Russian assets, they're just useful idiots. This guy is a pretty blatant communist sympathizer and anti-American a la Hasan Piker above all else, they don't have to be paid for their propaganda work.
To my knowledge he was like 4 or 5 when his parents and him left Yugoslavia, I have a pretty clear memory of him mentioning it on the I Did a Thing video where they strap a gun to one of those Boston Dynamics dog robots. Most of his childhood was spent in Australia, which is why his accent is entirely Australian, if I'm remembering correctly, he doesn't even remember his time in Yugoslavia, so I don't think that's what caused it. It could have been influence from his parents, or maybe misguided rebelliousness, or maybe he is a Russian asset, I honestly have no idea. Personally, I'm more inclined to believe he's more of a useful idiot though.
@@skepsisrollins1711 Considering they hate Putin and would prefer another glorious revolution (tm) in the Motherland, I doubt they're actually Russian assets.
I'm a Ukrainian and I couldn'd even watch the first 5 minutes because of what he said about the USSR. I'm so glad that someone made a video about it, thank you!
@@hehmdaIt existed. Most of people of Ukraine say the same thing, Stalin is don't give a shit about Ukraine, he would have committed 10 more such genocides that would have helped develop the USSR, as Ukrainian i know a lot people whose grandparents suffered from the golodomor in 1932-1933, it was a crime against humanity, a genocide
Try spreading this to their fans. Many of them are not stupid nor extremist, they may be willing to listen. By the way, I noticed in one video another falsehood he said " (in comparison to america) but China has not invaded anybody in the last 70 years". 1) historically non true 2) he considers usa military bases and troops always an occupying force, even in allied territories( see the latest video with hasan), so the same standard should be applied to others. Another istance I remember is when they retell the story of the Australian whistleblower, they forego the fact he initally "blew the whistle" to defend his fellow soldiers, not to accuse them of war crimes.
@Novgord98 I do remember watching their video on the whistleblower, they do address that point saying he wanted to protect soldiers from taking the fall for another more senior soldier who definitely committed a war crime. I'm a bit murky one if he actually wanted less investigations into soldiers by the commanders or if he wanted the commanders to stop investigating lower level soldiers for shit they also did. Either way everyone seems to agree that whistleblower laws are in need of strengthening in australia.
@@marsrockfromspace5750 I agree on the last point. Regardless of the reason he did it, it was nonetheless the right thing, it should never have been hidden from the public. It s just that they painted him as anti- war crime hero from the get go, which I don' t think happened.
I am a fan of this guy and obviously a big fan of ididathing, but I've been noticing how unhinged this guy is some time ago. The North Korea one and the latest one about the military are just anti western propaganda points. I always beleaved he was unfortunately influenced by some psyop initiative but I know beleave he is willingly and consciously spreading misinformation himself. Shame.
Yeah I love how if you go to new it's just people relentlessly shitting on him, while I saw literally one pro-Boy Boy comment who said something like "this video makes all the NATO andys mad", but he got brutally ratioed
I liked his pine gap video, but then i realised he was full of crap halfway through the ukraine video. I noticed that he intentionally merged footage of pro-democracy protesters in kyiv and pro russian separatists forces in donbass like they were one in the same. such BS
I remember seeing that video when it came out. I was honestly bafled that this sort of Russian disinfo made it into the Anglo-sphere, here in Slovakia this stuff has been astroturfed constantly on boomer facebook pages ever since 2014. I remember arguing about the same points Alexa makes with my dad for years before the 2022 Invasion.
Most of Czech Facebook is pretty much the same here, though nowadays it seems like Russian disinfo is thriving in Slovakia more considering the views of the current administration there (meaning Fico and his current bullshittery) which not only allows but encourages such narratives to be spread. It's just sad to see honestly and the only reason Russian disinfo is so successful is because people are getting older, more gullible and keep forgetting August 1968. S láskou z Čech! 🤍❤💙
In my opinion, the self-determination of nations is the single most important point against the "NATO expansion" argument, but it is often overlooked by people who view the Ukraine war as some distant conflict over imperial zones of influence. Why should I, a Polish person, ever care about some imperial power being upset about me joining the aliance I choose? Why should Ukrainians ever care that Russians believe they have some claims to a buffer zone between them and the west? It's not about empires who see the world as zones of influence, least of all about some australian guys. It is about us and how we choose to determine our policy. Central and eastern europeans can make friends with any country they please and if you are angry about it, go on an sanction NATO. But justifying this as a cassus belli would mean that once you are big enough you have some innate, natural right to dictate your neighbours what they can and can't do. This is, sadly, a reality, but arguing that this is right is evil.
Russia didn't invade Afghanistan. It sent its military to help the then Soviet-aligned government fight off the direct predecessor of the Taliban. Basically the same scenario as Vietnam. The US didn't invade Vietnam, it aligned itself with the ARVN and mostly fought the Vietcong in South Vietnam. The US DID invade Afghanistan in 2001, toppled the Taliban-led government, and installed a new government made up of the Taliban opposition. It did this ostensibly because the Taliban government was supporting al-Qaeda
@@gmodrules123456789 Lol what? Sending your military to fight another country is an invasion, it was in vietnam and it was in afghanistan. Would you argue america never invaded germany or italy, they just sent their military to help fight off the nazis from france and africa?
I saw the title and instantly thought "Boy Boy? Didn't he make that awful Ukraine video a couple years ago? Did he make another video?", then I realized that this was a video response to that video. You sure took your sweet time making this.
I have watched 5 minutes and I can already say that he's either deep in the kremlins pocket or a massive tankie. There is no other alternatives in this situation and no one can persuade me otherwise.
@@Mr_Squiggle He seems more like the leftie tankie type so I doubt he'd be so stupid as to get in with any right wingers. The ends of the horseshoe are very close but they dont quite touch each other.
Criminally underrated channel. I stopped watching them when they visited North Korea and down played them as “Just as bad as the US” Got drawn back into I did a thing until he back stabbed Brandon Herrera. Getting your news or hot political takes from RUclipsrs is never a good idea but it’s especially egregious from these useful idiots
How is this channel criminally underrated it has one real video in the past year? Are you all bots? Are you all retarded? You all say the same exact handful of things over and over again like I don't think all of you know about some gun youtuber this well
haven't watched the video yet, but the way Aleksa bends the truth is something interesting I've noticed. Just telling the parts of the story that suits his world view, like when he said Ukrainians just supported nazis because they were evil, completely ignoring the fact that a genocide in Ukraine was committed not even ten years before, and the position of Ukraine in the Russian civil war not even 20 years before, is certainly something. Also in the Afghanistan episode he kinda just ignores the soviet backed coup that started the conflict itself, and acts as if the evil American CIA backed Mujahideen started it. The Chinese role in training and supplying the Mujahideen he also ignores because it doesn't support his western aggression towards the peaceful communists theory.
You described the exact "pipeline" I went through. I watch I did a thing, then found the Boy Boy channel. But like the first video I watched (or at least tried to) was the Ukraine one which completely put me off. I just couldn't believe what I was hearing
"If you have any corrections or other comments, I'll put them here" Gottem. I'm only 15 minutes in, gonna finish this up after work, but so far this is fantastic work- very meticulous. He will never watch or respond to it, and neither would Piker. BoyBoy really rubbed me the wrong way with their Pine Gap video, so I'm not surprised to see their past is riddled with other examples of him carrying water for bad people because "america bad/worse".
I think the North Korea video is quite awful to be honest. Even though some of the more outrageous claims about North Korea are not true, that in no way means you should play defence for one of the most horrible regimes in the world. Frankly it bothers me how little pushback there is against the North Korea vid… like ok great you can get other haircuts (doesn’t change that people were publicly shamed on TV for having different ones in the past also) and not be executed, but we’re still talking about a regime which starves its own people rather than accepting outside help when there are famines, which murders people for watching foreign media, has horrid labour camps, and so on. Good job making it seem like just a silly quirky but ultimately harmless place. Obviously this critique isn’t aimed at you, it’s a general frustration! Great vid btw! 😊
I remember watching his North Korea haircut video and had to convince myself that he wasn't a tankie doing a "well, this myth isn't true, so therefore, no serious allegations against the DPRK are legitimate either." When his 2022 Ukraine video dropped, his tankie status became obvious.
13:57 the deal that is mentioned was only ever proposed. West Germany wanted to make a deal with the Soviet Union where in turn for East Germany reuniting with west Germany, NATO wouldn't expand to the east. However this deal never happened as when the US president heard of the planned proposition he opposed it, instead suggesting that West Germany should pay money to the Soviet Union to reunite with east Germany. This was the deal that was actually signed. The proposition that NATO wouldn't expand east was only an idea that didn't come to be.
he already got a bunch of backlash for being a gun grabber and being quite rude to Brandon when he was invited to a VERY expensive gun range day, free of charge. He's generally a massive cunt.
still remember how dirty they did another youtuber during one of their vids, even though they handled it; it still was the slimiest thing I've ever seen a youtuber do Do your research about the collab between them and brandon herrera
@ajman66 yeah, lets be real brandon deserved the flak for blatantly fueling the american culture war and deliberately going out of his way to defend unjustified police killings. Harrera should stay out of politics, of which he seems to be doong the exact opposite
Surprisingly solid and comprehensive video. BoyBoy's video on Ukraine luckily did seem to get a lot of pushback in the comments, presumably even from his own audience. But showing off how his he actively cuts out vital context right from the middle of the sentence does convince me this was more than just a biased cherry-picked viewpoint, it is actively malicious.
Hated this guy with a passion since the brandon herrera incident, just a total snake who couldn't even get popular on his own, had to drag down his friends career into the mud to get started
@@Peter-qr1kz Both of the guys from boy boy asked Brandon if they could make a video together, Brandon said yes, let them use his gun range and ammo for free, record whatever they wanted and then they went home after having a great time apparently. couple of weeks later boy boy releases a hit piece video on Brandon on how all gun RUclips are nut cases who want to shoot children, that they're evil and have no morals. they also asked Brandon to shoot cardboard cutouts of kids as a "joke" to which Brandon said "no that's weird" which they didn't mention in their video. This is as best i can remember it from a couple years ago, might not be 100% accurate but close enough
@Peter-qr1kz he went to shoot some guns with Brandon and was acting super friendly towards brandon but when his video came out he basically slandered the guy and threw him under the bus also spread misinformation while at it
Lost a lot of respect for Ididathing after he made the firearm robot video with other RUclipsrs in the US. The way he framed that video to try to force a political viewpoint continually talking down on the US and our gun issue while we also got to see the other side from Brandon herreras pov (who I also no longer support for his politics). Brandon’s video showed him having an absolute blast enjoying firearms how they are supposed to be which didn’t fit the narrative he was trying to force. Extremely slimy to use someone and then blindside them with a narrative/viewpoint you know they do not agree with and didn’t mention previously because you know you would not have had access to the experience they could provide over an issue you do not truly/fully understand.
Thank you! I really like their content, when they stick to some lighthearted education through comedy, I love it. But when they released the video about Ukraine I was so disappointed, I live in Poland, obviously I keep up to date with the war on the other side of the border, and nothing really added up. Then there were new videos and his narrative kept sounding off, even though I certainly am no expert at these things. Great job on the vid
Thank you for bringing attention to this, I found him annoying so I avoided his content, but this is just gross and really shines a light on who he is as a person. And for anyone who says, well this was two years ago, maybe his opinions have changed, etc.. Keep in mind his video is still up, likely being monetized, he has not taken it down or made any attempt to distance himself from this in light of all the atrocities the Russians have committed thus far, so one has to assume he is proud of what he said.
I am glad to see this video, I watched Boy Boy literally right until I stumbled upon the Ukraine video. I then clicked the 'Don't recommend channel' button, after leaving some choice words in a comment. I believe Boy Boy is one of those influencers being paid by RT.
Looking at your channel and seeing that this type of video is a new style. I have to say the quality and execution is top notch I really hope this is an area you stick to. You definitely earned my subscription and im sure many more as the video grows.
boyboy being pro russia in ukraine and anti israel even though theyre both indiscriminately bombing civilians was a dead giveaway for me to not really take his views surrounding wars seriously. Ididathing fights for ukraine hard on their livestreams when theyre having discussions
Videos like this give me hope for the future. The fact that there are people who will push back against dis and misinformation in a respectful but no-nonsense way is awesome. Great work, immediate subscribe.
30:20 I feel it should be mentioned that Russian soldiers absolutely did cross the border to fight in Ukraine. Literal KGB officers became the leaders of the separatist states Russia created.
@@iwontcomment you gotta be a bot there is no way you watched the video if that is what you take away. Martae clearly criticised NATO and US imperialism multiple times during the video.
@@gnomelordfyriforest you sure about that? he had all the pro nato talking points and then says russia "invades all around the world" but when the us invades it's good actually
I knew what he was about when he made the video about robot dogs with guns video with Brandon Harrara (i can't fucking spell) between how they acted towards him and their general negative attitude towards firearms while creating many deadly devices themselves was a tipping point for me. Im not surprised to see misinformation from him.
First of all, boyboy is probably not promoting this on purpose. Yes, he is heavily biased, but he owns a political youtube channel with an agenda. An agenda, formed by being an immigrant who had his home literally bombed by NATO. This, his Anti-West posture is adapted from parents and his own journey down the political spectrum. I’d like to also state that you, as well, face bias. Clearly you’re pro-west, and you show that through your response. Of which, is really not substantial. It paints a picture that boyboy is some intentionally lying bot that is wrong at every turn, when really it’s an over exaggeration of boyboy’s over-exaggeration. Don’t get me started over the fact that you deliberately seem to glaze over trains of thought-not really addressing the argument. For example, (and I can’t refute every claim because I don’t have endless leisure time) your entire section on NATO expansion doesn’t cover the fact that just because military action isn’t mentioned, everything would be fine. No, part of boyboy’s argument was that Russian provocation, popular opinion, and Putin’s regime would only be radicalized as a response to NATO expansionism. You also seem to glaze the US way too much. Apparently, direct conquest is the only form of Imperialism to you? No, the West often approaches everything with an agenda. Practically, it’s the Western form of Imperialism. Even fighting Boko-Haram in Africa is carried with the afterthought that French Modern Colonialism would be maintained through the support. Interventions in Syria also had major implications and were also signs of US Imperialism. Really, this video is not as structurally sound as I’d like it to be. Of course, it’s not done professionally, but the end result is the fact that its claim is far greater than what it actually proves. boyboy is a politicized RUclipsr, yes. Propagandist? Yes. He twists the truth through charged statements. Crooked liar? No. His general charge, that NATO plays a major role in inciting the conflict in Ukraine, continues to stand. After all, everything stems back to their horrible meddling in Russian politics that led to the reaction.
While I am obviously open to valid criticism over some of the arguments I made, I wholly reject the idea that BoyBoy *isn't* intentionally lying to support his agenda. I cover at 4:14 that he lied about Biden's old position of NATO expansion, and then he cut mid-sentence to make him say something that fits his argument. 17:28 he lies about an article that he shows on screen. 41:18 he says the US "refused to negotiate" then shows a clip of Blinken which he cut off midsentence to make it sound like he said something he didn't. 46:44 he did a similar thing with Biden. I could really go on, I see no way that you could interpret stuff like this as anything other than intentional dishonesty. There are plenty of people I disagree with who I don't think are intentionally lying (even Hasan, I think is probably just a massive idiot, not someone with intentional malice). At no point did I say that no mention of military action means everything will be fine. I even explained that the concerns the letter raised were valid, just that the letter does not argue that NATO expansion will cause a war, which is what Boy Boy said. I was pretty thorough with my argument, and I addressed all of Aleksa's points, including all the ones you mentioned (Russian provocation, popular opinion, and Putin’s regime) and how there isn't really any evidence that Russia wouldn't have invaded Georgia and Ukraine if NATO expansion didn't happen. I did glaze the US, yes, and maybe my tone could have been more measured, but that was because I don't think the US did much wrong specifically with regards to Ukraine (exception being meddling in Russian election, of course). If I was making a video, for instance, debunking someone running defense for the Afghan war, my tone would come off as anti-American.
@@MartaeAUHi, Thanks for your civil response. I apologize for not getting back sooner. I am writing on a phone so this may be hard to follow, or missing parts. For your claims that he is intentionally lying, I disagree partially. I believe there is extreme bias, yet much of the evidence you provide of him “lying” can be written off as ellipsis. The context in most of these samples isn’t so severe as to make all of his points redundant. Case in point, even if there wasn’t military action as suggested by Biden, he still claimed a violent response from Russia. This, as I think we can agree on, is one of the primary reasons for the war and Putin’s agenda - anti-western sentiment. This is a dishonest portrayal of information because of the format, but can be written off as ellipsis, since he still is trying to push an agenda. I’d like to make it clear (in forensics and debate) that oftentimes people will not directly sell themselves out when quoting from a card. If they can find a way to make the evidence sound more appealing, then it will be most likely used. The only downside is that your opposing side will often just point out the glaring gap in cross-examination or crossfire (Depending on which formats you want to prefer, these are just examples), and has a point of weakness in your argument. They have to prove that, with the extra information, that the general warrant provided is false. This isn’t accomplished here as it still solicits the same understanding. Hopefully this isn’t just yap, but in basic terms - omitting parts of the text in order to get a more appealing quote, is not inherently lying. It’s cheeky but as long as it’s not literal forgery and is in the same heart I regard it as being fine. I’ve seen it done on the national level, where the full context of evidence isn’t as explained (and shouldn’t be). It becomes awkward because the opposition draws from the same exact source 😭. The Putin article also is an example of omitting certain parts of the text. Putin wanted to join NATO immediately, but was rejected is the general idea. The tone here is dishonest, I agree, but not really a lie per se. I say MOST now because well, I can’t explain the corruption investigation on if I take your evidence as true. I think this one was actual intentional misinformation. Or, he didn’t read the article, got the wrong impression from it, or read some politicized version. Either way, I can’t justify this one. The last one falls under the same category as the rest.
A funny thing that has to be mentioned in the Azov part is that most of the members in the Unit were Russian and according to many of the volunteers Swedish volunteer Mikael skillt being the most known one said the language spoken in Azov was russian. So the part of a "Genocide of russian speakers" is in itself bullshit
11:29 talking as an anti-war/putin russian, there is a sentiment among the conservative population that putin pulled the country out of the 90s with a growing economy, and that's one of the most popular points for people who support him. While it is true that it's mostly a coincidence, because oil money started flooding into the country lol, it is a fairly popular talking point that exists, so Aleksa is not wrong there. It's just a popular myth that a significant amount of russians believe too
I've always avoided that guy because of his smugness and infantile sense of humor, but now I have one more reason to never watch his content. Thank you.
Liked the video and appreciate all the effort that went into it, good job on the editing and research. I love Boy Boy and I did a thing and watch all their videos. I don't agree with them politically a lot of the time even though I would call myself left-leaning, but like to watch to see what they think. Always bothers me when any misinformation is pedaled and I sit and argue with the screen when I know something they have said in the video is wrong, glad to see a breakdown.
Ive veen following these guys since the north korea video and the ukraine video also really disappinted me to the point if entirly discrediting them to me
30:25 "plunging ukraine into an unwinnable civil war" Lol, Ukraine was on the verge of finishing the DNR and LNR off at Debaltseve, and then they miraculously got thousands of reinforcements and tanks from "somewhere" who came in, massacred the Ukrainians, and then dissapeared once the lines stabilized.
Some of these blatant fabrications and intentional selectivities are actually pretty disgusting lol; it’d be infinitely less toxic if he was just misinformed and contrarian.
yeah that was my thought when i forced myself to watch boyboys original video, its actually horrific that he cut off not one but two biden speeches and did a "for example" with azov like it was a high school essay
I agree. You got your people like Hasan that annoying as they are, they are just arrogant and biased. Boy Boy on the other hand is a dishonest liar, and I say that as someone who agrees with 95% of their political positions outside of post-USSR and NATO issues.
Any example of a specific fabrication? Everyone is talking about fabrications but no one has any. Cutting to talk about something biden is talking about punching it up is normal for video makers on youtube
Just started the video but him cutting "I don't mean military" is so blatantly disingenuous, and its just one check away from being completely found out.
I mean using an ellipsis isn’t really ingenious. In this case it may seem like it but the message still stands that provocations towards the Russian State would have been implied. These provocations have obviously led into the Ukrainian war.
@@KaiserTwo But Boy Boy also said that Biden predicted the war while he actually didn't. Also, there seems to be no legitimate reason for him to cut out that part. It's so short and very relevant to what he's talking about.
@@seneca983 Exactly. This alone is enough for Alex to have lost any trust he had left in my eyes. Everything he now puts out cannot be trusted, he's no longer a reliable source or narrator.
i used to think he was just a bit dense but after seeing some of the things he purposely cut out it seems he's a liar which is far worse, also the infantilization of ukraine and other countries around that region annoys the fuck out of me, like they dont understand whats happening to them and need to be told by evil america what to do, it's so insulting. when i was in kiev around 2010 ish i was in a bar and saw what i thought were loads of younger people laughing at and picking on an older man, like majority of the bar were shouting things laughing and throwing things at him, whilst him with no top on was shouting back, i asked my friend (im english and dont understand ukrainian/russian) what's happening and it was the old man was shouting pro ussr pro russian stuff and all the younger ones were laughing at him cos they see themselves as europeans not russians
Thank you for your insight, which is often hard for westerners without experience in our area to understand. While we in "Eastern" Europe do have close ties on some levels with "ethnic" and ideological Russians and tolerate their "culture", we have long lost the illusions that Kremlin has changed for the better since occupying us. It has nothing to do with America, but just an organic converging with the "western", still democratic world and love for personal freedoms and development. For those who broke free from Russia's yoke during and after WW1, it was not a move west, but return to our natural place in Europe which was violently (despite how Soviet propagsnda portrayed it) cut around 1939-1940. We were not the weaker or poorer brothers in our first period of independance, but equal partners (my Baltic country was #7 in Europe by average economic and other indicators). It was our choice to do away with Moscow's rule not only in Glastnostj and 1990, but all trough the Soviet occupation. For Ukraine it was more complicated, because they got russified and opressed centuries befure us, but majority of all of us (as well as in Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan and others) does not agree being under Kremlin's sphere of influence for a long time now. Countries have interests, but people can choose alliances on their own, if democratic principles prevail. All of our "revolutions" are grassroots movements and it is the greatest insult possible, verging on genocide to suggest otherwise. Neo-realism is a very dumb fascist ideology.
It's easy to discredit someone when they start talking about a subject you know about. I can't remember what video I first saw of his but I thought he was kinda cool. But yeah. Once he started talking about Russia I kinda realized. Maybe if I was going to watch him I should do a little fact checking.
The biggest slap in the face about this argument of countering ''NATO Expansion'' is that the Russian invasion has done wonders to help spur NATO expansion.
The fact that the outcome is antithetical to the purpose only shows how dumb of a move it was for Putin and Russia. Not that they did not partially do it for trying to atop NATO expansion.
Not necessarily, no. Russian intelligence and/or high command might simply have massively underestimated the ‘Wests’ willingness to endlessly throw material at Ukraine. Or they simply saw the west-friendly Ukrainian government as too much of a danger, or they might simply have been stupid. That’s also where the digital paper trail sort off leans towards, and why we’ve been seeing an increase of Russian intelligence ‘incidents’ of all kinds, unlike at the very beginning of the invasion. Also, Russia is still a sovereign nation, and a sovereign neighbor thinking about joining NATO shouldn’t really lead to immediate war, they’re still guilty for that. NATO expansion simply aims to introduce a commonly understood rationale for the Russian behavior so far. The plan completely backfiring doesn’t really disprove the theory, as the reaction in it entirely lies out of Russian control and Putin is very well mental enough to think in these borderline Stalinist geopolitical terms and even acting on them.
@@Roberts1171it is not dumb in a sense that NATO expansion is not really a reason for Putin's politics. He uses it as a Boogeyman to excuse the war. Dumb are people who still believe that NATO "expansion" is an actual threat to Russia.
32:11 also about "only country in the world that have neo n.." russia have - rusich (русич) and Espaniola as full blown neo naz... battalions , and they done more horrible things than azov in all of azov existence , i mean far more horrible thigs
AZOV and the rest of Ukraine's "nazis" are mostly all talk, and haven't done anything too bad or illegal. And we can't really go arresting them on shit they say.
Not to mention RIM, which is known about by the Kremlin but allowed to exist. So long as they don't stir sh.t up inside Russia and only cause problems in other countries.
Also Wagner was/is notsee, so is Storm-Z, and one of Putins most ideologically influential allies within Russia (Aleksandr Dugin) is a full blown nazbol. Russia is the most notsee country out there, and besides there’s only like 1 Ukrainian military battalion/group that is likely overwhelmingly far right to this day (edit: I was referring to the right sector one, and as of earlier this year it was disbanded due to the alt-right members making their own battalion within the battalion after several attempts at reform). For example, half of the old azov guys were killed or captured, and thousands of ordinary people have and still are happily joining the battalion that now is viewed to have so much prestige within the ZSU.
Azov, not the Nazi and not even the battalion, they were reformed back in 2016, but because of Russian propaganda, everyone is still dragging this disinformation. My history teacher serve there and he is definitely not a Nazi, just a person who stood up for his country. In captivity, Azov soldiers are subjected to cruel tortures, and to see a bunch of foreigners wishing them death, while their families are waiting for them, knowing what tortures they are going through, is impossibly painful.
@@userRuslana I don't dispute this, it's just a very obvious fact about the Azov , only the brainwashed Z defenders believe that this is a Na..i battalion, but due to the large flow of propaganda and fakes related to the Azov , this information that you illuminated is difficult to find, so thank you for your comment!
Damn dude, as a person from the occupied part of Ukraine, more precisely from Donetsk, I can say that most of the youth and understanding people, in my case classmates aged 13-14 and their parents, simply took their things and left, running away from the war in 2014. My family and I did not have the opportunity or means to run anywhere, since I was in a good school where fairly rich children studied, but I am from a simple family that simply really wanted me to have a future, a future that Russia took away from me and many others. Watching videos like yours makes me cry with joy, that at least someone understands everything that was happening then. You can talk about radical right-wingers many times, but these people gave their lives and health for our country and I don't care how bad their position was, for me they will be heroes, if someone wants me to condemn such people, then make the Russians leave our country and stop doing all this horror. By the way, it's ironic that many people who believe Russian propaganda say that we were saved, then I have a question, how did my friends from Bucha deserve a bullet in the back of the head? They were from Donetsk, they fled from the war and it still caught up with them. One guy 2 years younger than me was killed, he survived the loss of his family and found a new family in 2013 in 2014 his family was able to go to relatives and then I don't really know what happened to him, but I followed his social media and the last post was about the fear of dying in the basement, after which nothing else came out, after a while I asked my friend from Kyiv to go and find out if he survived, but no... In any case, once again, thank you very much for your hard work! It's a shame to see that such channels do not gain the popularity they deserve, and people who spread false narratives and propaganda get it. I found your channel literally 3-4 days ago and immediately subscribed, I hope that popularity will come to you. P.S. I am pro-Ukrainian, but I can’t leave Donetsk because of my old granma, and my mom lives in Crimea, so I have nowhere to run, all I can do is try not to end up in the occupying army.
"You can talk about radical right-wingers many times, but they're fighting on the frontlines so I couldn't care less if they're proud Nazis. They're my heroes. Maybe I can be a Nazi one day too." OP: "Wow I love that. 💖" You just *admit* it and we all have to pretend there isn't a Nazi problem in Ukraine. It's insane.
Their brand of flashy "activism" content has done a lot to damage any genuine conversations, but it sure does make lots of money. Hmm. To believe that the US is solely responsible for all these conflicts is nothing short of American exceptionalism. It's borderline racist tbh, because it implies that other peoples are so incapable of steering their own destiny that the only way anything can ever happen for them is with the guiding hand of an outside force. It's the same erasing of culture and history that every oppressive colonialist power has perpetrated on people they deem lesser. People like them have been doing it since the war started, speaking about Ukraine in the same exact way Russia does. The Ukraine video is bad enough, but I had the misfortune of watching one of their latest videos in which they had Hasan spout dribble about the American military. Hasan went as far as to push the idea that the modern American military following through with consensual security deals as well as bolstering the sovereignty of strategic allies is akin to colonialism. I cannot tell you how much this pissed me off as an actual victim of colonialism, a direct descendant of the Lenca native to Central America. I often try to see the nuance in things, but learning about colonialism, the most likely to be true history of our neighbors and my people, was nothing short of heartbreaking. To see these "activists" erase and minimize it to make a point and even joke about it was so fucked up. I'm sick to death of these people profiting off an image they can just cast aside when it gets too real, but we have to live with the consequences of it. They can stop making anti-fact/anti-context propaganda at any time, I can't stop being who I am. Why do I have to live with the narrative they create for us? It's honestly so demoralizing that even our "allies" just don't get it. Apologies for the rant and thank you for making this video, it was very well done.
Thank you. I am Ukrainian an I'm so tired of people who justify russian imperialism and colonialism just to blame America one more time. This people don't see us as people with our own will, our history and culture, our desire to decide what future we want to build but some kind of a toy disputed between USA and russia. And this is totally russian narrative that we are not people, we don't have sovereignty and in fact we don't exist and must obey russian rule. I hope this guy on paycheck like tim pool, otherwise his pretty racist against Ukraine and dumb
The truth should never be apologised for. If no-one speaks about issues like this more and more young people will be radicalised by these types of narratives, whether it be left or right.
@@firewall56 I said borderline for a reason. But I would argue it is belittling to believe we can't think for ourselves. The colonial history that is generally known today paints the native people as naive, ignorant of technology, and submissive. The only place that was true was in the imaginations of the Spanish who certainly exaggerated how much control they had of the situation during the conquest. Personally I don't see any difference in the way they talk about our people today. They don't give a damn about us, and if they did they would perhaps talk to people who know more than them, who have lived through these things like the collapse of the USSR, or various events around the world that they love to reference to demonize the US. They could do that and make actually meaningful content in the process, but they won't.
bro he's a Serb, I'd be more surprised if he wasn't a pathological anti-West loser. NATO stopped them from murdering Muslims so now he just running around jelly over how based the USA is lmao
@@MrBazzorHe was at most a child and likely not even alive during the yugoslav war, in either case I doubt he’s been in former Yugoslavia or met a Yugoslav in the past 20+ years.
Weird how "he's from Yugoslavia" is somehow your defence when people like Captian Dissolution are actual Soviet born people who don't act this fucking dumb
Well many of their videos including the reviewed Ukraine video got a 26 of July revolution (Fidel Castros Cuban revolution) flag in the background, so it’s pretty clear Boy Boy is a tankie. Also Boy Boy seems to be way smarter than Hasan. As for I Did A Thing, I love him but it seems he’s also got similar views even featuring in the Boy Boy channel for majority of the videos. I’ve never seen him push BS as hard as Boy Boy though but idk.
i dont know how i keep getting sub 1000 view well sourced master classes of geo political videos in my feed but i cant complain, please keep em coming martea
Russia isn't communist, the only real victims of the war are the men being forcefully taken by Putin and Zelensky regimes to fight a pointless war and Lenin who is blamed for creating Ukraine by one side and for "colonising it" even though Poland was the first country to invade Ukraine
I like IDidAThing, but have been getting some strange political vibes from him. Guessing this BoyBoy character is where those influences are coming from.
Mate, thanks for this. I had very similar impressions when visiting the boyboy videos, something fells off and not comfortable, also the constant anti-US subtone rubs me wrong somehow (as an European). I avoid these guys since a while.
As a Ukrainian, I find the claim that Ukrainians wanted to stay in ussr so laughable and outrageous at the same time, my parents and grandparents lived through USSR, my grand grand mother almost died of starvation during holodomor, my family was almost sent out into gulags when my grandmother accidentally said something about being Ukrainian as a kid, same thing happened to my mom in the early eighties, when my mom accidentally sung an intro to a underground Ukrainian radio in the early eighties, I mean, who wants to live in that, and for the fact that the whole eastern Ukraine are mainly speaking Russian when before that were mainly speaking Ukrainian just says to what extent ussr government went to eradicate Ukrainian language. I can speak for hours on this but I gots to go eat so I’ll leave it at this. And to whoever who says that this is all IS propaganda STF and think about how dumb and stupid that is
How did your granmother's family and later your mother's family avoid gulag/destructive interrogation? It reminds me of two other things in my own family's history: 1. My great-grandfather almost getting imprisoned for joking about Hitler at a tavern in german-annexed austria and only getting out of it because the witnesses kinda lied for him, saying that he was "just drunk". 2. My grandfather almost getting arrested in francoist spain in the 70s for joking about franco at a tavern. His spanish colleagues protected him by telling the investigators that he was "just a drunk outsider".
It’s not laughable; some of the older generation seem to be amicable to the idea of a United Slavic nation. The West has taken a larger grip over the Ukraine in recent years. However, some view the unification of the two under friendly, equal grounds enticing. This is a refutable fact, having existed even since their first point of contact, or even during the Russian Revolution when Kiev broke away.
Ukrainians did a revolution "for democracy" and then when they saw they could not win, they instated a pro-western dictatorship that kidnaps people with white vans and silences all opposition
@@KaiserTwo "a refutable fact" is a great way to describe all the "pan-slavic" garbage russians have been pushing around for centuries to justify their colonisation and annexation of their neighbors. We already had some good old "frendly Slav Unity on equal grounds", first under Russian then under Soviet empires. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
After watching Boyboy's videos for a while I already kinda knew he was anti-American and pro-Russian/Chinese. Every video he puts up has something to do with how America screws everyone and how any other nation against America is always doing good. Even the North-Korea video is kinda propaganda-like imo. But this is a great insight in how actually wrong he is about certain topics. I get that America did some insanely fucked up stuff, but the blatant subjective bias towards another side and trying to portray it as fact is outright evil.
THANK YOU. I was actually amazed that I Did a Thing, who's clearly left leaning, was collabing in almost every video with someone who spews russian propaganda so obvious and straightforward that tucker carlson wouldn't dare to spread cause he'd think it's too direct.
Russians always play both sides when it comes to useful idiots, this shouldn't surprise you. If you think it's just a one side of the political spectrum issue you are either very sheltered and/or you are already unintentionally one of their useful idiots helping to do their work for them.
I love free speech and I used to believe every nation and organization should respect it, but online misinformation has gotten to an unmanageable state since 2020
The biggest problem with "free speech" is that not every country has such an extreme legal interpretation of free speech. In contrast to the USA, Europe is restricted by hate speech, for example, and Holocaust denial is incitement to hatred. I think that is a bit more relaxed in the States. But what I have observed in the last ten years is that many propagandists have hijacked this "free speech" just to flood the internet with their false information and disinformation. You also read very often how many people freak out that certain things are an attack on free speech. These are also usually trolls or bots with very generic names and profiles that are only a few years old, mostly of Russian origin.
This is why people should be taught to recognize rhetoric. Once news or information takes an opinion in any form, its a 90% chance its misinformation. We don't block free speech. We promote good ideas and shun bad ones. That is the component that makes free speech work. Let bad ideas fly, le them be said. Afterall, who said you have to entertain those bad ideas?
IIRC, Alexa and IDAT are Serbian. I remember seeing this video back when it came out, and feeling disappointed. Glad to see someone push back against the misinformation
Every nato expansion argument that sites policy papers and speeches from the 90s seem to pretend like the world has just been frozen sense the 90s. And nothing in Eurasia has changed to cause countries to revaluate their security concerns
It also pretends that NATO is some sort of ruling body, as if there's a direct comparison to be made between making your military available to a treaty organization in exchange for mutual protection and literally being ruled by a dictator in Moscow.
Plz read before commenting about the Israel-Gaza bit:
A lot of people are misinterpreting this bit so I'll clarify. Go to the description of his Pine Gap video: ruclips.net/video/XHMa-Ba-2Mo/видео.html. You will find the exact same Michael West article that I cite (source 2). If you read it, the expert interviewed said that the aim of Pine Gap's surveillance would be to reduce civilian casualties, i.e. Boy Boy lied about what his *own source* said.
Is it still possible that the expert is wrong and Pine Gap is used for malicious intentions in Gaza? Absolutely. However, Boy Boy has not cited any evidence that supports that conclusion, instead he cites evidence to the contrary.
Saying "well look at what's happening in Gaza, if Pine Gap is being used, then clearly it's being used to attack civilians" relies on assumptions and a misunderstanding of Israel's role in the conflict. Of all the U.S. and Australia's faults, they clearly don't have the same callous disregard for human life that Israel have, so you can't just assume that they would help Israel with that. And plus, Israel don't just explicitly target civilians for the sake of it, they just don't really care if they get in their way. So if there's a small chance if, say, a hospital is a secret Hamas base, they will take that change because they don't really care if they are wrong. But if, say, Pine Gap gave them intelligence that gave them a high degree of confidence that a certain target was actually a Hamas base, they would obviously use that. i.e. Pine Gap could lower the chance that a given target is not Hamas.
Once again, I don't actually know if Pine Gap is being used maliciously or not, all I'm saying is that you'd need evidence and you can't just assume so. The only evidence Boy Boy cited contradicts him.
yeah no cause that he's saying is isreal isnt just targeting hamas. They dont care about civilians. Thats what a genocide is. They're bombing the hospitals so more civilians die, not cause there is a chance hamas is in there
"Of all the U.S. and Australia's faults, they clearly don't have the same callous disregard for human life that Israel have..."
I have nothing on Australia, but U.S. really?! Alright let's go:
1. Nagasaki, Japan. See the first nuclear bomb used in Hiroshima, may have been used to end WW2 for good. But the second wasn't necessary, because the U.S. already knew Japan were going to surrender however you can't officially surrender in 3 days time (the Germans took 3 months after Hitler ended himself), and the U.S. knew that "Fat Boy" was dropped in Nagasaki just to try what a higher yield nuclear bomb would do to a big metropolis. I guess trying the power of nuclear bombs on the innocent isn't a callous disregard for human life.
2. Cambodia and Laos. The U.S. carpet bombed both those countries for the crimes of bordering Vietnam. Both are still suffering from that to this with literally tons of unexploded ordinance scattered through out both countries. Fun fact, actually it's not fun at all it's pretty sad: Population wise Laos was hit the worse, with about the equivalent of 2 tons of TNT being dropped into Laos per person living there. That's just the US giving free explosives, not a callous disregard for human life I'm sure.
3. Backing up dictator, after dictator if they had access to resource, but more importantly if they weren't communist. Here's just a few names you may know: Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Adolf Hitler (before WWII had started), Augusto Pinochet, and so many more.
4. The time the CIA funded the war on terror, by selling crack-cocaine to it's most impoverished communities.
I could keep this going all day.
@@z_0968 1,2,3 didn't happen in the 21st century. Pretty sure the factuality of 4 is debatable
@@MartaeAUFeel like RUclips may have hidden my last comment, thus I'm rewording it, if you see it twice I'm sorry.
4. It is debatable, because they never arrived to a conclusion. But pretty much every other 3 letter agency (DOJ, DEA and FBI) believed they did it, the CIA just never admitted to clandestine operation on U.S. soil. Also I got it wrong it wasn't for funding the war on terror,
5. That time a U.S. president, it was Obama, won a Noble Peace prize, and followed it by authorizing drone strikes that killed civilians, including children and even U.S. citizens.
6. The time U.S. overthrew the democratic elected president of Bolivia. How dare Bolivia elect a socialist president.
7. The time the U.S. funded the military dictatorship of Egypt, Trump even said Sisi was is favorite dictator.
8. The time U.S. supported 30 authoritarian regimes, that time is the present day by the way.
If Pine Gap is being used to reduce casualties, like official sources state, than it's biggest failure in modern surveillance history, given Israel managed to stack up more casualties in 3 months of invading Gaza, than Russia did in 3 years of invading Ukraine. Either the U.S./Australia intel is abysmal, or maybe Pine Gap is being used for another purpose.
EDIT: The previous comment didn't actually disappear or get hidden by RUclips just wasn't loading properly. I've deleted it to minimize confusion.
The only reason Russia in the 90s was "peaceful" and wasn't expected to invade former Soviet states was because they were too weak at that time. They barely beat down a rebellious tiny chunk like Chechnya. My country joined the EU and NATO specifically to guarantee safety from Russia, and then, a handful of years later, Russia invaded Georgia, proving our fears right.
They weren't. They invaded Moldova once and Georgia twice on top of both Chechen wars.
That's why my Syrian friend hates americans. My vietnamese friend's grandparent have horrible stories about American liberation. Iraqis were really welcoming of the americans. I mean hey, Laos getting free bombs? More than Japan? Sign me up!
It blows my mind that Chechnya had balls of steel to go up against Russia and was so cut throat (literally) about their wars. Yet here we are and a considerable chunk of them are willing to die for Russia.
@@BruTheThreatdie standing or become someone else’s dog, chechnya and ukraine along with georgia decided never again they’d be under someone
@@BruTheThreatactually chechnia went ahead of wanting more of the caucasus, which was an offering of justification to the kremlin.
That was the only Boy Boy video I had to turn off. To add some context and perhaps a bit of sympathy, Aleksa is a Serbian Yugoslav war refugee, and Alex's parents are Russian. With this background, it's easy to see how they might develop a "U.S. bad, Russia good" worldview. Take their political videos with a grain of salt.
They are irrefutably anti-west; for good reason. You can’t really blame them when Aleska’s homes were torn down by war and NATO intervention. I’m guessing it has just led to them leaning towards the left.
This is the only boy boy video I am ever gonna watch. Such a high level of purposeful disinformation cannot just be taken with a "grain of salt" it has to be straight up discarded.
Oh hello uamee didnt expect to see you here.
US really really bad and Russia really really bad
Fuck em they won't get sympathy from me.
Ryan Mcbeth smiles in his slumber as he senses someone dismantling disinformation
McBeth is the goat, happy to see he's getting the recognition he deserves.
My boi Mcbeth
@@thecringeinspector5636check Real Reporters vid on mcbeth and nato tanks released 3 month ago
the man who caves to ukrainian mis info
Truly the internet's unsung hero 🫡
isnt the guy serbian? I dont assume all serbians are yugoslav appologists but this guy is perfect example of that. Might even be reason he supports Russian propaganda etc
Judging by the expression on his face in these videos, I get the feeling he did some bad things and is getting blackmailed into it.
There is joke about that I remember: How do you know a person before you is Serbian? They are drinking russian c*m
@@arthurdent5357 easy there with the tinfoil
Most Serbs are complete vatniks. They unironically expect NATO to grovel and beg for their forgiveness for ruining their ethnic cleansing party.
yea most Serbians are warcrime apologists that will dick ride Russia at any opportunity
His ukraine video was when I had to stop watching both Boy Boy and I did a thing. I actually had an argument with him in the comments section of that video where I pointed out many obvious issues with his theory about the war. I don't think he is in bed with the russians, I honestly just think it is because he grew up in a post soviet country and has a bias against the US. He reminds me of my Russian friends from high school who were great to hand out with, but had clearly drunk some of the coolaid being produced back in the motherland.
I think he very clearly is a Russian asset. Look at the right wing media on youtube just this week. You think they wouldn't do the same to other country's content creators? That'd be naive to assume it's only an american problem.
@@skepsisrollins1711 Here's the main difference, no leftist content creators have been found to be Russian assets, they're just useful idiots. This guy is a pretty blatant communist sympathizer and anti-American a la Hasan Piker above all else, they don't have to be paid for their propaganda work.
To my knowledge he was like 4 or 5 when his parents and him left Yugoslavia, I have a pretty clear memory of him mentioning it on the I Did a Thing video where they strap a gun to one of those Boston Dynamics dog robots. Most of his childhood was spent in Australia, which is why his accent is entirely Australian, if I'm remembering correctly, he doesn't even remember his time in Yugoslavia, so I don't think that's what caused it. It could have been influence from his parents, or maybe misguided rebelliousness, or maybe he is a Russian asset, I honestly have no idea. Personally, I'm more inclined to believe he's more of a useful idiot though.
@@skepsisrollins1711 Considering they hate Putin and would prefer another glorious revolution (tm) in the Motherland, I doubt they're actually Russian assets.
I'm a Ukrainian and I couldn'd even watch the first 5 minutes because of what he said about the USSR. I'm so glad that someone made a video about it, thank you!
yeah fax he completely ignored the Holodomor
Lots of people spread Russian propaganda knowingly or unknowingly
@@jacklux-ht8ch yeah because It didn't exist. Why wouldn't he?
@@hehmdaIt existed. Most of people of Ukraine say the same thing, Stalin is don't give a shit about Ukraine, he would have committed 10 more such genocides that would have helped develop the USSR, as Ukrainian i know a lot people whose grandparents suffered from the golodomor in 1932-1933, it was a crime against humanity, a genocide
@@hehmda Denying a genocide? How are you different from holocaust deniers again?
Try spreading this to their fans. Many of them are not stupid nor extremist, they may be willing to listen. By the way, I noticed in one video another falsehood he said " (in comparison to america) but China has not invaded anybody in the last 70 years". 1) historically non true 2) he considers usa military bases and troops always an occupying force, even in allied territories( see the latest video with hasan), so the same standard should be applied to others. Another istance I remember is when they retell the story of the Australian whistleblower, they forego the fact he initally "blew the whistle" to defend his fellow soldiers, not to accuse them of war crimes.
Yeah it is shocking how many lies there are in so many of his videos. Will probably make more videos debunking other ones
I hope you'll make more
@Novgord98 I do remember watching their video on the whistleblower, they do address that point saying he wanted to protect soldiers from taking the fall for another more senior soldier who definitely committed a war crime.
I'm a bit murky one if he actually wanted less investigations into soldiers by the commanders or if he wanted the commanders to stop investigating lower level soldiers for shit they also did.
Either way everyone seems to agree that whistleblower laws are in need of strengthening in australia.
@@marsrockfromspace5750 I agree on the last point. Regardless of the reason he did it, it was nonetheless the right thing, it should never have been hidden from the public. It s just that they painted him as anti- war crime hero from the get go, which I don' t think happened.
I am a fan of this guy and obviously a big fan of ididathing, but I've been noticing how unhinged this guy is some time ago. The North Korea one and the latest one about the military are just anti western propaganda points. I always beleaved he was unfortunately influenced by some psyop initiative but I know beleave he is willingly and consciously spreading misinformation himself. Shame.
The difference between the old and new comments in that vid is staggering
Yeah I love how if you go to new it's just people relentlessly shitting on him, while I saw literally one pro-Boy Boy comment who said something like "this video makes all the NATO andys mad", but he got brutally ratioed
@@MartaeAUbrainrot, boyboy is right about nato
@@friessein Nah, hes a moron. NATO rocks, seethe harder.
@@friessein good job ivan 5 ruble added to your account.
"Wow my hate video hit the algorithim and now I started a hate train of new comments" what loser shit
I liked his pine gap video, but then i realised he was full of crap halfway through the ukraine video. I noticed that he intentionally merged footage of pro-democracy protesters in kyiv and pro russian separatists forces in donbass like they were one in the same. such BS
wow, didnt know both these aussies have names straight outta Serbia
Idat has Russian Chinese parents but I'm pretty sure he was born in Australia
I remember seeing that video when it came out.
I was honestly bafled that this sort of Russian disinfo made it into the Anglo-sphere, here in Slovakia this stuff has been astroturfed constantly on boomer facebook pages ever since 2014. I remember arguing about the same points Alexa makes with my dad for years before the 2022 Invasion.
Most of Czech Facebook is pretty much the same here, though nowadays it seems like Russian disinfo is thriving in Slovakia more considering the views of the current administration there (meaning Fico and his current bullshittery) which not only allows but encourages such narratives to be spread. It's just sad to see honestly and the only reason Russian disinfo is so successful is because people are getting older, more gullible and keep forgetting August 1968.
S láskou z Čech! 🤍❤💙
This is the real culture war. Russian shills have infiltrated every corner of the internet.
In my opinion, the self-determination of nations is the single most important point against the "NATO expansion" argument, but it is often overlooked by people who view the Ukraine war as some distant conflict over imperial zones of influence. Why should I, a Polish person, ever care about some imperial power being upset about me joining the aliance I choose? Why should Ukrainians ever care that Russians believe they have some claims to a buffer zone between them and the west? It's not about empires who see the world as zones of influence, least of all about some australian guys. It is about us and how we choose to determine our policy. Central and eastern europeans can make friends with any country they please and if you are angry about it, go on an sanction NATO. But justifying this as a cassus belli would mean that once you are big enough you have some innate, natural right to dictate your neighbours what they can and can't do. This is, sadly, a reality, but arguing that this is right is evil.
Also who invaded Afghanistan first? Russia or the us?
Alexander the Great and the British.
@@diligentone-six2688 eternal anglo spirit
Russia didn't invade Afghanistan. It sent its military to help the then Soviet-aligned government fight off the direct predecessor of the Taliban. Basically the same scenario as Vietnam. The US didn't invade Vietnam, it aligned itself with the ARVN and mostly fought the Vietcong in South Vietnam.
The US DID invade Afghanistan in 2001, toppled the Taliban-led government, and installed a new government made up of the Taliban opposition. It did this ostensibly because the Taliban government was supporting al-Qaeda
@@gmodrules123456789 Lol what? Sending your military to fight another country is an invasion, it was in vietnam and it was in afghanistan. Would you argue america never invaded germany or italy, they just sent their military to help fight off the nazis from france and africa?
@gmodrules123456789 The USSR absolutely invaded Afghanistan, the "we were just helping out" is also propaganda from their end.
I saw the title and instantly thought "Boy Boy? Didn't he make that awful Ukraine video a couple years ago? Did he make another video?", then I realized that this was a video response to that video. You sure took your sweet time making this.
responses should not end if that video is still up and getting new views
better late than never
It's easy and fast to come up with lies, it's unfortunate a lot harder and slower to disprove those lies.
I have watched 5 minutes and I can already say that he's either deep in the kremlins pocket or a massive tankie. There is no other alternatives in this situation and no one can persuade me otherwise.
Massive anti-western tankie, he was like this before Ukraine.
Probably a client of TENET media.
@@Mr_Squiggle He seems more like the leftie tankie type so I doubt he'd be so stupid as to get in with any right wingers. The ends of the horseshoe are very close but they dont quite touch each other.
The fact that you people think any actual tankie would think Putin is good make you seem so retarded
FINALLY. I have been waiting for ages for someone to make this video.
Criminally underrated channel. I stopped watching them when they visited North Korea and down played them as “Just as bad as the US”
Got drawn back into I did a thing until he back stabbed Brandon Herrera.
Getting your news or hot political takes from RUclipsrs is never a good idea but it’s especially egregious from these useful idiots
How is this channel criminally underrated it has one real video in the past year? Are you all bots? Are you all retarded? You all say the same exact handful of things over and over again like I don't think all of you know about some gun youtuber this well
He writes fanfiction of reality for edgy 14-year-old tankies.
haven't watched the video yet, but the way Aleksa bends the truth is something interesting I've noticed. Just telling the parts of the story that suits his world view, like when he said Ukrainians just supported nazis because they were evil, completely ignoring the fact that a genocide in Ukraine was committed not even ten years before, and the position of Ukraine in the Russian civil war not even 20 years before, is certainly something. Also in the Afghanistan episode he kinda just ignores the soviet backed coup that started the conflict itself, and acts as if the evil American CIA backed Mujahideen started it. The Chinese role in training and supplying the Mujahideen he also ignores because it doesn't support his western aggression towards the peaceful communists theory.
You described the exact "pipeline" I went through. I watch I did a thing, then found the Boy Boy channel. But like the first video I watched (or at least tried to) was the Ukraine one which completely put me off. I just couldn't believe what I was hearing
"If you have any corrections or other comments, I'll put them here" Gottem.
I'm only 15 minutes in, gonna finish this up after work, but so far this is fantastic work- very meticulous. He will never watch or respond to it, and neither would Piker.
BoyBoy really rubbed me the wrong way with their Pine Gap video, so I'm not surprised to see their past is riddled with other examples of him carrying water for bad people because "america bad/worse".
As one of said casual BoyBoy viewers, can't say I'm not disappointed, but I'm glad to be more informed. Cheers to your diligence mate.
As soon as I saw them hanging out with Hasan I was out
I think the North Korea video is quite awful to be honest. Even though some of the more outrageous claims about North Korea are not true, that in no way means you should play defence for one of the most horrible regimes in the world. Frankly it bothers me how little pushback there is against the North Korea vid… like ok great you can get other haircuts (doesn’t change that people were publicly shamed on TV for having different ones in the past also) and not be executed, but we’re still talking about a regime which starves its own people rather than accepting outside help when there are famines, which murders people for watching foreign media, has horrid labour camps, and so on. Good job making it seem like just a silly quirky but ultimately harmless place.
Obviously this critique isn’t aimed at you, it’s a general frustration! Great vid btw! 😊
I remember watching his North Korea haircut video and had to convince myself that he wasn't a tankie doing a "well, this myth isn't true, so therefore, no serious allegations against the DPRK are legitimate either."
When his 2022 Ukraine video dropped, his tankie status became obvious.
Please do make more videos about this dude. It’s important to dispel disinformation
13:57 the deal that is mentioned was only ever proposed. West Germany wanted to make a deal with the Soviet Union where in turn for East Germany reuniting with west Germany, NATO wouldn't expand to the east. However this deal never happened as when the US president heard of the planned proposition he opposed it, instead suggesting that West Germany should pay money to the Soviet Union to reunite with east Germany. This was the deal that was actually signed. The proposition that NATO wouldn't expand east was only an idea that didn't come to be.
when a US aligned country has imperial ambitions: BAD
when a non-US aligned country has imperial ambitions: IT'S OKAY AND IT'S THE WEST'S FAULT!!!!
36:18
when US aligned country has nazis: GOOD!
I used to hate watch them and must have missed their Ukraine video... Now I just hate them.
I'm genuinely surprised that IDidaThing hasn't gotten any backlash for associating with this.
It's mostly Aleksa that does have these schizo rants.
he already got a bunch of backlash for being a gun grabber and being quite rude to Brandon when he was invited to a VERY expensive gun range day, free of charge. He's generally a massive cunt.
I Did A Thing was outed as a complete a**hat by Brandon Herrera some time ago.
Oh no dont remind me of that video 💀
i dont like them because they did the AK guy dirty
still remember how dirty they did another youtuber during one of their vids, even though they handled it;
it still was the slimiest thing I've ever seen a youtuber do
Do your research about the collab between them and brandon herrera
I don't think the did Brandon that dirty.
@ajman66 yeah, lets be real brandon deserved the flak for blatantly fueling the american culture war and deliberately going out of his way to defend unjustified police killings. Harrera should stay out of politics, of which he seems to be doong the exact opposite
@@Dman6779 exactly
Surprisingly solid and comprehensive video. BoyBoy's video on Ukraine luckily did seem to get a lot of pushback in the comments, presumably even from his own audience.
But showing off how his he actively cuts out vital context right from the middle of the sentence does convince me this was more than just a biased cherry-picked viewpoint, it is actively malicious.
Makes sense dude is Serbian if I’m not wrong and Russia has been its only ally for a while so no wonder he’s biased
as a boyboy viewer: this video is great. I know that he arguments in bad faith in many of his videos but they are still very entertaining
Unfortunately, that's what makes them more sinister.
@@Lurtz_s yea true
Hated this guy with a passion since the brandon herrera incident, just a total snake who couldn't even get popular on his own, had to drag down his friends career into the mud to get started
I am not familiar with this. What happened?
@@Peter-qr1kz Both of the guys from boy boy asked Brandon if they could make a video together, Brandon said yes, let them use his gun range and ammo for free, record whatever they wanted and then they went home after having a great time apparently.
couple of weeks later boy boy releases a hit piece video on Brandon on how all gun RUclips are nut cases who want to shoot children, that they're evil and have no morals. they also asked Brandon to shoot cardboard cutouts of kids as a "joke" to which Brandon said "no that's weird" which they didn't mention in their video.
This is as best i can remember it from a couple years ago, might not be 100% accurate but close enough
@Peter-qr1kz he went to shoot some guns with Brandon and was acting super friendly towards brandon but when his video came out he basically slandered the guy and threw him under the bus also spread misinformation while at it
Lost a lot of respect for Ididathing after he made the firearm robot video with other RUclipsrs in the US. The way he framed that video to try to force a political viewpoint continually talking down on the US and our gun issue while we also got to see the other side from Brandon herreras pov (who I also no longer support for his politics). Brandon’s video showed him having an absolute blast enjoying firearms how they are supposed to be which didn’t fit the narrative he was trying to force. Extremely slimy to use someone and then blindside them with a narrative/viewpoint you know they do not agree with and didn’t mention previously because you know you would not have had access to the experience they could provide over an issue you do not truly/fully understand.
this video is very good and needs to be seen
Finally. I checked out boy boy after watching ididathing for awhile. After watching this propaganda crap I couldn’t even stomach ididathing anymore.
I hope he responds to this video. This is quite damning! The fact that he's misleading and even editing videos to drive a point home.
if he does, his chanel is done. Usually best to jist ignor such call outs.
So yeah i hope he does
Thank you! I really like their content, when they stick to some lighthearted education through comedy, I love it. But when they released the video about Ukraine I was so disappointed, I live in Poland, obviously I keep up to date with the war on the other side of the border, and nothing really added up.
Then there were new videos and his narrative kept sounding off, even though I certainly am no expert at these things.
Great job on the vid
more people need to see this
I knew these guys were up to no good when they misrepresented Brandon Herrera so badly after his hospitality
ah come on, brandon has his fair share of BS. especially his friendship with nazi administrive results
Thank you for bringing attention to this, I found him annoying so I avoided his content, but this is just gross and really shines a light on who he is as a person. And for anyone who says, well this was two years ago, maybe his opinions have changed, etc.. Keep in mind his video is still up, likely being monetized, he has not taken it down or made any attempt to distance himself from this in light of all the atrocities the Russians have committed thus far, so one has to assume he is proud of what he said.
me when someone talks about my country's geopolitical rival :(
I unsubbed from boy boy the moment he didnt have any nuanced opinions
This was really well done
I am glad to see this video, I watched Boy Boy literally right until I stumbled upon the Ukraine video. I then clicked the 'Don't recommend channel' button, after leaving some choice words in a comment. I believe Boy Boy is one of those influencers being paid by RT.
Looking at your channel and seeing that this type of video is a new style. I have to say the quality and execution is top notch I really hope this is an area you stick to. You definitely earned my subscription and im sure many more as the video grows.
boyboy being pro russia in ukraine and anti israel even though theyre both indiscriminately bombing civilians was a dead giveaway for me to not really take his views surrounding wars seriously. Ididathing fights for ukraine hard on their livestreams when theyre having discussions
Videos like this give me hope for the future. The fact that there are people who will push back against dis and misinformation in a respectful but no-nonsense way is awesome. Great work, immediate subscribe.
By the way, thanks for keeping the vine booms a part of your channel. You're making us, subscribers happy.
30:20 I feel it should be mentioned that Russian soldiers absolutely did cross the border to fight in Ukraine. Literal KGB officers became the leaders of the separatist states Russia created.
Random RUclips DIY video to anti-west propaganda pipeline
Ngl man, imma wish you all the best for this one. Boy boy is a goof ball.
this video makes me like him more too, if the worst crticism is that he doesn't like NATO and american imperialism
@@iwontcomment you gotta be a bot there is no way you watched the video if that is what you take away. Martae clearly criticised NATO and US imperialism multiple times during the video.
@@gnomelordfyriforest you sure about that? he had all the pro nato talking points and then says russia "invades all around the world" but when the us invades it's good actually
@@iwontcomment he criticised NATO in the middle east and afghanistan
@@iwontcomment I'd rather have only the USA invade countries than Russia and the USA invade countries
😭🙏 this is one of the best commentary channel
Great video! Looking forward to your next video. Now I wonder, how wide is the Russian net within the Western left
I knew what he was about when he made the video about robot dogs with guns video with Brandon Harrara (i can't fucking spell) between how they acted towards him and their general negative attitude towards firearms while creating many deadly devices themselves was a tipping point for me. Im not surprised to see misinformation from him.
They ban people from their live chat if they have differing opinions to them.
Cutting important context from Biden's speech is enough evidence for me.
First of all, boyboy is probably not promoting this on purpose. Yes, he is heavily biased, but he owns a political youtube channel with an agenda. An agenda, formed by being an immigrant who had his home literally bombed by NATO. This, his Anti-West posture is adapted from parents and his own journey down the political spectrum.
I’d like to also state that you, as well, face bias. Clearly you’re pro-west, and you show that through your response.
Of which, is really not substantial. It paints a picture that boyboy is some intentionally lying bot that is wrong at every turn, when really it’s an over exaggeration of boyboy’s over-exaggeration. Don’t get me started over the fact that you deliberately seem to glaze over trains of thought-not really addressing the argument. For example, (and I can’t refute every claim because I don’t have endless leisure time) your entire section on NATO expansion doesn’t cover the fact that just because military action isn’t mentioned, everything would be fine. No, part of boyboy’s argument was that Russian provocation, popular opinion, and Putin’s regime would only be radicalized as a response to NATO expansionism.
You also seem to glaze the US way too much. Apparently, direct conquest is the only form of Imperialism to you? No, the West often approaches everything with an agenda. Practically, it’s the Western form of Imperialism. Even fighting Boko-Haram in Africa is carried with the afterthought that French Modern Colonialism would be maintained through the support. Interventions in Syria also had major implications and were also signs of US Imperialism.
Really, this video is not as structurally sound as I’d like it to be. Of course, it’s not done professionally, but the end result is the fact that its claim is far greater than what it actually proves.
boyboy is a politicized RUclipsr, yes. Propagandist? Yes. He twists the truth through charged statements. Crooked liar? No. His general charge, that NATO plays a major role in inciting the conflict in Ukraine, continues to stand. After all, everything stems back to their horrible meddling in Russian politics that led to the reaction.
While I am obviously open to valid criticism over some of the arguments I made, I wholly reject the idea that BoyBoy *isn't* intentionally lying to support his agenda. I cover at 4:14 that he lied about Biden's old position of NATO expansion, and then he cut mid-sentence to make him say something that fits his argument. 17:28 he lies about an article that he shows on screen. 41:18 he says the US "refused to negotiate" then shows a clip of Blinken which he cut off midsentence to make it sound like he said something he didn't. 46:44 he did a similar thing with Biden. I could really go on, I see no way that you could interpret stuff like this as anything other than intentional dishonesty. There are plenty of people I disagree with who I don't think are intentionally lying (even Hasan, I think is probably just a massive idiot, not someone with intentional malice).
At no point did I say that no mention of military action means everything will be fine. I even explained that the concerns the letter raised were valid, just that the letter does not argue that NATO expansion will cause a war, which is what Boy Boy said. I was pretty thorough with my argument, and I addressed all of Aleksa's points, including all the ones you mentioned (Russian provocation, popular opinion, and Putin’s regime) and how there isn't really any evidence that Russia wouldn't have invaded Georgia and Ukraine if NATO expansion didn't happen.
I did glaze the US, yes, and maybe my tone could have been more measured, but that was because I don't think the US did much wrong specifically with regards to Ukraine (exception being meddling in Russian election, of course). If I was making a video, for instance, debunking someone running defense for the Afghan war, my tone would come off as anti-American.
@@MartaeAUHi, Thanks for your civil response. I apologize for not getting back sooner. I am writing on a phone so this may be hard to follow, or missing parts.
For your claims that he is intentionally lying, I disagree partially. I believe there is extreme bias, yet much of the evidence you provide of him “lying” can be written off as ellipsis. The context in most of these samples isn’t so severe as to make all of his points redundant.
Case in point, even if there wasn’t military action as suggested by Biden, he still claimed a violent response from Russia. This, as I think we can agree on, is one of the primary reasons for the war and Putin’s agenda - anti-western sentiment. This is a dishonest portrayal of information because of the format, but can be written off as ellipsis, since he still is trying to push an agenda.
I’d like to make it clear (in forensics and debate) that oftentimes people will not directly sell themselves out when quoting from a card. If they can find a way to make the evidence sound more appealing, then it will be most likely used. The only downside is that your opposing side will often just point out the glaring gap in cross-examination or crossfire (Depending on which formats you want to prefer, these are just examples), and has a point of weakness in your argument. They have to prove that, with the extra information, that the general warrant provided is false. This isn’t accomplished here as it still solicits the same understanding. Hopefully this isn’t just yap, but in basic terms - omitting parts of the text in order to get a more appealing quote, is not inherently lying. It’s cheeky but as long as it’s not literal forgery and is in the same heart I regard it as being fine. I’ve seen it done on the national level, where the full context of evidence isn’t as explained (and shouldn’t be). It becomes awkward because the opposition draws from the same exact source 😭.
The Putin article also is an example of omitting certain parts of the text. Putin wanted to join NATO immediately, but was rejected is the general idea. The tone here is dishonest, I agree, but not really a lie per se.
I say MOST now because well, I can’t explain the corruption investigation on if I take your evidence as true. I think this one was actual intentional misinformation. Or, he didn’t read the article, got the wrong impression from it, or read some politicized version. Either way, I can’t justify this one.
The last one falls under the same category as the rest.
I hope I am comprehensible, since it’s 2am. If not I will revise this later to get my point more smoothly across.
A funny thing that has to be mentioned in the Azov part is that most of the members in the Unit were Russian and according to many of the volunteers Swedish volunteer Mikael skillt being the most known one said the language spoken in Azov was russian. So the part of a "Genocide of russian speakers" is in itself bullshit
He's also a massive tanky that supports North Korea
Its always encouraging to see more people become aware of and talk about the blatant grift people like boyboy conduct
11:29 talking as an anti-war/putin russian, there is a sentiment among the conservative population that putin pulled the country out of the 90s with a growing economy, and that's one of the most popular points for people who support him. While it is true that it's mostly a coincidence, because oil money started flooding into the country lol, it is a fairly popular talking point that exists, so Aleksa is not wrong there. It's just a popular myth that a significant amount of russians believe too
I've always avoided that guy because of his smugness and infantile sense of humor, but now I have one more reason to never watch his content. Thank you.
The nato expansion argument sounds smart until you think about it for more then 5 seconds
Freind? More like lover
Liked the video and appreciate all the effort that went into it, good job on the editing and research. I love Boy Boy and I did a thing and watch all their videos. I don't agree with them politically a lot of the time even though I would call myself left-leaning, but like to watch to see what they think. Always bothers me when any misinformation is pedaled and I sit and argue with the screen when I know something they have said in the video is wrong, glad to see a breakdown.
It is disgusting watching this dude lie about everything in Ukraine to make Putin and Russia look better. Thanks for debunking this video
Ive veen following these guys since the north korea video and the ukraine video also really disappinted me to the point if entirly discrediting them to me
Thanks for the info, as a ukrainian I appreciate it very much.
30:25 "plunging ukraine into an unwinnable civil war"
Lol, Ukraine was on the verge of finishing the DNR and LNR off at Debaltseve, and then they miraculously got thousands of reinforcements and tanks from "somewhere" who came in, massacred the Ukrainians, and then dissapeared once the lines stabilized.
Some of these blatant fabrications and intentional selectivities are actually pretty disgusting lol; it’d be infinitely less toxic if he was just misinformed and contrarian.
yeah that was my thought when i forced myself to watch boyboys original video, its actually horrific that he cut off not one but two biden speeches and did a "for example" with azov like it was a high school essay
I agree.
You got your people like Hasan that annoying as they are, they are just arrogant and biased.
Boy Boy on the other hand is a dishonest liar, and I say that as someone who agrees with 95% of their political positions outside of post-USSR and NATO issues.
Any example of a specific fabrication? Everyone is talking about fabrications but no one has any. Cutting to talk about something biden is talking about punching it up is normal for video makers on youtube
@@spyczech no its not
@@kassler5986 solid argume
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Just started the video but him cutting "I don't mean military" is so blatantly disingenuous, and its just one check away from being completely found out.
I mean using an ellipsis isn’t really ingenious. In this case it may seem like it but the message still stands that provocations towards the Russian State would have been implied. These provocations have obviously led into the Ukrainian war.
@@KaiserTwo But Boy Boy also said that Biden predicted the war while he actually didn't. Also, there seems to be no legitimate reason for him to cut out that part. It's so short and very relevant to what he's talking about.
@@seneca983 Exactly. This alone is enough for Alex to have lost any trust he had left in my eyes. Everything he now puts out cannot be trusted, he's no longer a reliable source or narrator.
@@tankerspam5884 Why lose trust in Alex over what Aleksa says?
@@official_alphabet_inc my bad, meant to say Alexsa. Extends to both of them though, is their channel.
i used to think he was just a bit dense but after seeing some of the things he purposely cut out it seems he's a liar which is far worse, also the infantilization of ukraine and other countries around that region annoys the fuck out of me, like they dont understand whats happening to them and need to be told by evil america what to do, it's so insulting.
when i was in kiev around 2010 ish i was in a bar and saw what i thought were loads of younger people laughing at and picking on an older man, like majority of the bar were shouting things laughing and throwing things at him, whilst him with no top on was shouting back, i asked my friend (im english and dont understand ukrainian/russian) what's happening and it was the old man was shouting pro ussr pro russian stuff and all the younger ones were laughing at him cos they see themselves as europeans not russians
Russians are europeans
yeah well after several years of russian oppression and being under russian control we want nothing to do with them or be associated with them
Thank you for your insight, which is often hard for westerners without experience in our area to understand. While we in "Eastern" Europe do have close ties on some levels with "ethnic" and ideological Russians and tolerate their "culture", we have long lost the illusions that Kremlin has changed for the better since occupying us. It has nothing to do with America, but just an organic converging with the "western", still democratic world and love for personal freedoms and development. For those who broke free from Russia's yoke during and after WW1, it was not a move west, but return to our natural place in Europe which was violently (despite how Soviet propagsnda portrayed it) cut around 1939-1940. We were not the weaker or poorer brothers in our first period of independance, but equal partners (my Baltic country was #7 in Europe by average economic and other indicators). It was our choice to do away with Moscow's rule not only in Glastnostj and 1990, but all trough the Soviet occupation. For Ukraine it was more complicated, because they got russified and opressed centuries befure us, but majority of all of us (as well as in Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan and others) does not agree being under Kremlin's sphere of influence for a long time now. Countries have interests, but people can choose alliances on their own, if democratic principles prevail. All of our "revolutions" are grassroots movements and it is the greatest insult possible, verging on genocide to suggest otherwise. Neo-realism is a very dumb fascist ideology.
It's easy to discredit someone when they start talking about a subject you know about. I can't remember what video I first saw of his but I thought he was kinda cool. But yeah. Once he started talking about Russia I kinda realized. Maybe if I was going to watch him I should do a little fact checking.
Plenty of Russians see themselves as European, since you know a big part of Russia and the majority of its population is kinda located in Europe
The biggest slap in the face about this argument of countering ''NATO Expansion'' is that the Russian invasion has done wonders to help spur NATO expansion.
The fact that the outcome is antithetical to the purpose only shows how dumb of a move it was for Putin and Russia. Not that they did not partially do it for trying to atop NATO expansion.
NATO was expanding long before this
Not necessarily, no.
Russian intelligence and/or high command might simply have massively underestimated the ‘Wests’ willingness to endlessly throw material at Ukraine.
Or they simply saw the west-friendly Ukrainian government as too much of a danger, or they might simply have been stupid. That’s also where the digital paper trail sort off leans towards, and why we’ve been seeing an increase of Russian intelligence ‘incidents’ of all kinds, unlike at the very beginning of the invasion.
Also, Russia is still a sovereign nation, and a sovereign neighbor thinking about joining NATO shouldn’t really lead to immediate war, they’re still guilty for that.
NATO expansion simply aims to introduce a commonly understood rationale for the Russian behavior so far. The plan completely backfiring doesn’t really disprove the theory, as the reaction in it entirely lies out of Russian control and Putin is very well mental enough to think in these borderline Stalinist geopolitical terms and even acting on them.
@@Roberts1171it is not dumb in a sense that NATO expansion is not really a reason for Putin's politics. He uses it as a Boogeyman to excuse the war.
Dumb are people who still believe that NATO "expansion" is an actual threat to Russia.
Russia said they invaded Ukraine to stop NATO expansion but little did they know that they expanded NATO and the Western alliance as a whole
That biden edit is absolutely disgusting. He knows what hes doing.
what's wrong with it?
@@friesseinwhats wrong with misinformation and bending reality to fit your narrative?
Everyone on youtube edits? What is the big deal you have to cut in to give your perspective too thats fair use
@@spyczechlmaooo
@@aikhomolius4112 you get copyright strikes if you don't edit your videos
24:49 it's whild watching a guy whose channel is so big on hammering Australian corruption giving Russian corruption a pass
Finally someone calling him out.
32:11 also about "only country in the world that have neo n.." russia have - rusich (русич) and Espaniola as full blown neo naz... battalions , and they done more horrible things than azov in all of azov existence , i mean far more horrible thigs
AZOV and the rest of Ukraine's "nazis" are mostly all talk, and haven't done anything too bad or illegal. And we can't really go arresting them on shit they say.
Not to mention RIM, which is known about by the Kremlin but allowed to exist. So long as they don't stir sh.t up inside Russia and only cause problems in other countries.
Also Wagner was/is notsee, so is Storm-Z, and one of Putins most ideologically influential allies within Russia (Aleksandr Dugin) is a full blown nazbol.
Russia is the most notsee country out there, and besides there’s only like 1 Ukrainian military battalion/group that is likely overwhelmingly far right to this day (edit: I was referring to the right sector one, and as of earlier this year it was disbanded due to the alt-right members making their own battalion within the battalion after several attempts at reform).
For example, half of the old azov guys were killed or captured, and thousands of ordinary people have and still are happily joining the battalion that now is viewed to have so much prestige within the ZSU.
Azov, not the Nazi and not even the battalion, they were reformed back in 2016, but because of Russian propaganda, everyone is still dragging this disinformation. My history teacher serve there and he is definitely not a Nazi, just a person who stood up for his country. In captivity, Azov soldiers are subjected to cruel tortures, and to see a bunch of foreigners wishing them death, while their families are waiting for them, knowing what tortures they are going through, is impossibly painful.
@@userRuslana I don't dispute this, it's just a very obvious fact about the Azov , only the brainwashed Z defenders believe that this is a Na..i battalion, but due to the large flow of propaganda and fakes related to the Azov , this information that you illuminated is difficult to find, so thank you for your comment!
Damn dude, as a person from the occupied part of Ukraine, more precisely from Donetsk, I can say that most of the youth and understanding people, in my case classmates aged 13-14 and their parents, simply took their things and left, running away from the war in 2014. My family and I did not have the opportunity or means to run anywhere, since I was in a good school where fairly rich children studied, but I am from a simple family that simply really wanted me to have a future, a future that Russia took away from me and many others. Watching videos like yours makes me cry with joy, that at least someone understands everything that was happening then. You can talk about radical right-wingers many times, but these people gave their lives and health for our country and I don't care how bad their position was, for me they will be heroes, if someone wants me to condemn such people, then make the Russians leave our country and stop doing all this horror. By the way, it's ironic that many people who believe Russian propaganda say that we were saved, then I have a question, how did my friends from Bucha deserve a bullet in the back of the head? They were from Donetsk, they fled from the war and it still caught up with them. One guy 2 years younger than me was killed, he survived the loss of his family and found a new family in 2013 in 2014 his family was able to go to relatives and then I don't really know what happened to him, but I followed his social media and the last post was about the fear of dying in the basement, after which nothing else came out, after a while I asked my friend from Kyiv to go and find out if he survived, but no...
In any case, once again, thank you very much for your hard work! It's a shame to see that such channels do not gain the popularity they deserve, and people who spread false narratives and propaganda get it. I found your channel literally 3-4 days ago and immediately subscribed, I hope that popularity will come to you.
P.S. I am pro-Ukrainian, but I can’t leave Donetsk because of my old granma, and my mom lives in Crimea, so I have nowhere to run, all I can do is try not to end up in the occupying army.
Hello, not many of us on the internet these days. Left donetsk in early 2014. Lived in Turkey for almost a decade and now i live in Odesa.
"You can talk about radical right-wingers many times, but they're fighting on the frontlines so I couldn't care less if they're proud Nazis. They're my heroes. Maybe I can be a Nazi one day too."
OP: "Wow I love that. 💖"
You just *admit* it and we all have to pretend there isn't a Nazi problem in Ukraine. It's insane.
I wish we would just send your military more, your country needs all the support they can get. stay safe man.
Stay strong brother 💛💙
Ти обов'язково виживеш і все буде добре, тримайся любочка 😥💞
Their brand of flashy "activism" content has done a lot to damage any genuine conversations, but it sure does make lots of money. Hmm.
To believe that the US is solely responsible for all these conflicts is nothing short of American exceptionalism. It's borderline racist tbh, because it implies that other peoples are so incapable of steering their own destiny that the only way anything can ever happen for them is with the guiding hand of an outside force. It's the same erasing of culture and history that every oppressive colonialist power has perpetrated on people they deem lesser. People like them have been doing it since the war started, speaking about Ukraine in the same exact way Russia does.
The Ukraine video is bad enough, but I had the misfortune of watching one of their latest videos in which they had Hasan spout dribble about the American military. Hasan went as far as to push the idea that the modern American military following through with consensual security deals as well as bolstering the sovereignty of strategic allies is akin to colonialism. I cannot tell you how much this pissed me off as an actual victim of colonialism, a direct descendant of the Lenca native to Central America.
I often try to see the nuance in things, but learning about colonialism, the most likely to be true history of our neighbors and my people, was nothing short of heartbreaking. To see these "activists" erase and minimize it to make a point and even joke about it was so fucked up. I'm sick to death of these people profiting off an image they can just cast aside when it gets too real, but we have to live with the consequences of it. They can stop making anti-fact/anti-context propaganda at any time, I can't stop being who I am. Why do I have to live with the narrative they create for us? It's honestly so demoralizing that even our "allies" just don't get it.
Apologies for the rant and thank you for making this video, it was very well done.
Thank you. I am Ukrainian an I'm so tired of people who justify russian imperialism and colonialism just to blame America one more time. This people don't see us as people with our own will, our history and culture, our desire to decide what future we want to build but some kind of a toy disputed between USA and russia. And this is totally russian narrative that we are not people, we don't have sovereignty and in fact we don't exist and must obey russian rule. I hope this guy on paycheck like tim pool, otherwise his pretty racist against Ukraine and dumb
The truth should never be apologised for. If no-one speaks about issues like this more and more young people will be radicalised by these types of narratives, whether it be left or right.
Hasan is an ignorant knuckledragger on any subject that touches geopolitics and US foreign policy
I think you need to look up the definition of racism. I'll maybe give you xenophobic but even that's a stretch 😂
@@firewall56 I said borderline for a reason. But I would argue it is belittling to believe we can't think for ourselves. The colonial history that is generally known today paints the native people as naive, ignorant of technology, and submissive. The only place that was true was in the imaginations of the Spanish who certainly exaggerated how much control they had of the situation during the conquest. Personally I don't see any difference in the way they talk about our people today. They don't give a damn about us, and if they did they would perhaps talk to people who know more than them, who have lived through these things like the collapse of the USSR, or various events around the world that they love to reference to demonize the US. They could do that and make actually meaningful content in the process, but they won't.
Jesus this guy is... the things he said about the Yugoslav war, is CRAZY, how delusional and in a bubble do you have to be, to claim those things
bro he's a Serb, I'd be more surprised if he wasn't a pathological anti-West loser.
NATO stopped them from murdering Muslims so now he just running around jelly over how based the USA is lmao
he’s from yugoslavia
He’s literally a Yugoslavian War refugee. Delusional? I think not? NATO Intervention was botched.
@@MrBazzorHe was at most a child and likely not even alive during the yugoslav war, in either case I doubt he’s been in former Yugoslavia or met a Yugoslav in the past 20+ years.
Weird how "he's from Yugoslavia" is somehow your defence when people like Captian Dissolution are actual Soviet born people who don't act this fucking dumb
Boy Boy seems to be a kind of tankie or he watches too much Hasan videos:
Well wouldn't you know it, one of their latest videos is a react video where they collabed with Hasan.
Serbs are notorious Russia glazers, surprising that they're keeping up the tradition even in diaspora though
@@TheJubiter probably also why he conveniently leaves out the reason why NATO intervened in Yugoslavia lol.
Well many of their videos including the reviewed Ukraine video got a 26 of July revolution (Fidel Castros Cuban revolution) flag in the background, so it’s pretty clear Boy Boy is a tankie.
Also Boy Boy seems to be way smarter than Hasan.
As for I Did A Thing, I love him but it seems he’s also got similar views even featuring in the Boy Boy channel for majority of the videos. I’ve never seen him push BS as hard as Boy Boy though but idk.
ive never seen him support the invasion of czechoslovakia so i doubt he's a tankie
you really came out of nowhere with this video. I found it to be really solid and i'll be keeping an eye on this channel from now on.
i dont know how i keep getting sub 1000 view well sourced master classes of geo political videos in my feed but i cant complain, please keep em coming martea
"Making Communist Propaganda For Idiots" - BoyBoy Patreon
Russia isn't communist, the only real victims of the war are the men being forcefully taken by Putin and Zelensky regimes to fight a pointless war and Lenin who is blamed for creating Ukraine by one side and for "colonising it" even though Poland was the first country to invade Ukraine
I like IDidAThing, but have been getting some strange political vibes from him. Guessing this BoyBoy character is where those influences are coming from.
Same
IDidAThing is also a sleezebag. He is just better at hiding it.
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Yup, was not surprised to see this video.
"this BoyBoy character..." as if they aren't very close friends
Leftism isn't "strange political vibes"
Mate, thanks for this. I had very similar impressions when visiting the boyboy videos, something fells off and not comfortable, also the constant anti-US subtone rubs me wrong somehow (as an European). I avoid these guys since a while.
As a Ukrainian, I find the claim that Ukrainians wanted to stay in ussr so laughable and outrageous at the same time, my parents and grandparents lived through USSR, my grand grand mother almost died of starvation during holodomor, my family was almost sent out into gulags when my grandmother accidentally said something about being Ukrainian as a kid, same thing happened to my mom in the early eighties, when my mom accidentally sung an intro to a underground Ukrainian radio in the early eighties, I mean, who wants to live in that, and for the fact that the whole eastern Ukraine are mainly speaking Russian when before that were mainly speaking Ukrainian just says to what extent ussr government went to eradicate Ukrainian language. I can speak for hours on this but I gots to go eat so I’ll leave it at this. And to whoever who says that this is all IS propaganda STF and think about how dumb and stupid that is
How did your granmother's family and later your mother's family avoid gulag/destructive interrogation? It reminds me of two other things in my own family's history: 1. My great-grandfather almost getting imprisoned for joking about Hitler at a tavern in german-annexed austria and only getting out of it because the witnesses kinda lied for him, saying that he was "just drunk". 2. My grandfather almost getting arrested in francoist spain in the 70s for joking about franco at a tavern. His spanish colleagues protected him by telling the investigators that he was "just a drunk outsider".
It’s not laughable; some of the older generation seem to be amicable to the idea of a United Slavic nation. The West has taken a larger grip over the Ukraine in recent years. However, some view the unification of the two under friendly, equal grounds enticing. This is a refutable fact, having existed even since their first point of contact, or even during the Russian Revolution when Kiev broke away.
Donbas region of Ukraine has always been pro Russia with deep cultural ties
Ukrainians did a revolution "for democracy" and then when they saw they could not win, they instated a pro-western dictatorship that kidnaps people with white vans and silences all opposition
@@KaiserTwo "a refutable fact" is a great way to describe all the "pan-slavic" garbage russians have been pushing around for centuries to justify their colonisation and annexation of their neighbors.
We already had some good old "frendly Slav Unity on equal grounds", first under Russian then under Soviet empires. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
It's about time someone called out this propagandist.
After watching Boyboy's videos for a while I already kinda knew he was anti-American and pro-Russian/Chinese. Every video he puts up has something to do with how America screws everyone and how any other nation against America is always doing good.
Even the North-Korea video is kinda propaganda-like imo.
But this is a great insight in how actually wrong he is about certain topics. I get that America did some insanely fucked up stuff, but the blatant subjective bias towards another side and trying to portray it as fact is outright evil.
Seriously? He's anti Russian communists what do you mean pro Russia? That's insane
THANK YOU. I was actually amazed that I Did a Thing, who's clearly left leaning, was collabing in almost every video with someone who spews russian propaganda so obvious and straightforward that tucker carlson wouldn't dare to spread cause he'd think it's too direct.
boyboy and IDAT are like best buds with Hasan. They share similar "opinions".
@@TheKarabanera well then time to unsub idat!
@@pavlikmorozovgaming468 I unsubbed when they did a hit piece on Brandon Herrera without telling him what was going on.
Russians always play both sides when it comes to useful idiots, this shouldn't surprise you.
If you think it's just a one side of the political spectrum issue you are either very sheltered and/or you are already unintentionally one of their useful idiots helping to do their work for them.
@@TheKarabaneradidn’t they collab with Friendly Jordies or am I misremembering?
He just lies so much he can't keep track. People turn into fabrications.
I love free speech and I used to believe every nation and organization should respect it, but online misinformation has gotten to an unmanageable state since 2020
The biggest problem with "free speech" is that not every country has such an extreme legal interpretation of free speech. In contrast to the USA, Europe is restricted by hate speech, for example, and Holocaust denial is incitement to hatred. I think that is a bit more relaxed in the States.
But what I have observed in the last ten years is that many propagandists have hijacked this "free speech" just to flood the internet with their false information and disinformation. You also read very often how many people freak out that certain things are an attack on free speech. These are also usually trolls or bots with very generic names and profiles that are only a few years old, mostly of Russian origin.
Disinformation. He is obviously lying.
It's been going this way since 2014.
2014, since Ukraine got invaded.
This is why people should be taught to recognize rhetoric. Once news or information takes an opinion in any form, its a 90% chance its misinformation.
We don't block free speech. We promote good ideas and shun bad ones. That is the component that makes free speech work. Let bad ideas fly, le them be said. Afterall, who said you have to entertain those bad ideas?
IIRC, Alexa and IDAT are Serbian. I remember seeing this video back when it came out, and feeling disappointed. Glad to see someone push back against the misinformation
I did a thing isnt serbian
They moved away because of the American bombings and have held a grudge ever since.
@@rolmops883 IDAT isn’t Serbian, but his parents are Chinese-born Russians that moved to Australia from Siberia before he was born.
@@astonbailey-fong1178 That's why.....
@@shipsability yeah coz why be upset at the US and its war crimes
Every nato expansion argument that sites policy papers and speeches from the 90s seem to pretend like the world has just been frozen sense the 90s. And nothing in Eurasia has changed to cause countries to revaluate their security concerns
It also pretends that NATO is some sort of ruling body, as if there's a direct comparison to be made between making your military available to a treaty organization in exchange for mutual protection and literally being ruled by a dictator in Moscow.