ThinMannVentures: The Tragedy of Z-Black

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
  • I met Z Black after he was released from his last prison bid in 2014. I was introduced to him by ArchBishop Russell Davenport, a martial artist from Roosevelt Long Island, that knew and was respected by Z-Black from the time when they were young. I believe that the recorded conversation (i.e. interview) that we had that day is the first, the last and the only interview that Z-Black had ever sat down for. It is also one of the saddest stories one is likely to hear.
    Z-Black’s life was indeed violent and depraved, but it was also tragic. I am grateful that I had the chance to sit with him and to hear some of the hidden details of his life that contributed to the person that he became.
    I am aware that many that knew him will rush to the comment section to inform others of his ‘tendencies’ while in prison and will question why these things are not mentioned in this work. The answer is simply that we just didn’t talk about it; I didn’t ask and he didn’t tell.

Комментарии • 297

  • @SunMagnetic
    @SunMagnetic 10 месяцев назад +42

    This is explosive. It's easily one of the deepest videos I've ever seen. This must have been therapeutic for the brother. Thanks for making it happen and sharing. So many lost giants and geniuses in this system

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  10 месяцев назад +7

      I agree. The strange thing is that it took all this time for me to actually realize it; in the beginning, when I first began these interviews, I was so focused on the martial aspects of these brother's lives that I'd hear the personal bits they'd share but it would not register (with me) the way it should. So now, being older (and smarter) I've begun to go back and refocus. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.

    • @froilangonzalez963
      @froilangonzalez963 7 месяцев назад +1

      He got what he deserves at the end God don't like ugly 💯

    • @JosephAlmeida-qi7mb
      @JosephAlmeida-qi7mb 7 месяцев назад

      Thx 4 this, I’m enjoyin it now. Ofc I’ve heard da ‘stories’…1 quick question cause I’m readin comments on his once ‘athletic prowess’: was the brother tall? As in 6’5” plus?
      Thx,
      May he RIP…

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  7 месяцев назад

      6’5” would be about right. I’m 6’1” and he was more than a little taller than me.

    • @broadwaybiz211
      @broadwaybiz211 7 месяцев назад

      U got more interviews wit him or jus dis part?

  • @BigDutchKingTut
    @BigDutchKingTut 10 месяцев назад +33

    This was phenomenal, Thinmann. That trauma make monsters out of some of us..sad, but real.

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  10 месяцев назад +4

      Peace and thanks for continuing to take the time to check these pieces and to offer your comment(s).

  • @tat2jitsu411
    @tat2jitsu411 10 месяцев назад +32

    These vids are classic could watch them all day
    RIP MR Z BLACK I hope your in a better place

    • @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979
      @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979 10 месяцев назад +4

      Namean.
      Peace 7

    • @Br3nTon2260
      @Br3nTon2260 7 месяцев назад +1

      rest in peace, Zblack was a horrible man a notorious booty bandit in the New York prison system who wad locked up for his part in the Spree Crest Diner Orgy the world's a better place without him. I suggest you do your research on this block and RUclips videos

  • @firstscorpio
    @firstscorpio 7 месяцев назад +43

    I have heard nothing but horror stories about this man since I was a teenager. I heard how much of a gladiator and rapist he was. I never saw how he looked or heard him speak until now. It is so sad to hear the origins of his pain and the continued pain all his life. He could have been a hall of fame boxer. Thankyou for the interview.

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +1

      You from Long Island?

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah he definitely could have boxes, he could have played Football too.

    • @firstscorpio
      @firstscorpio 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@astralmindny9055yeah I amnfrom L.I

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  6 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment

    • @chinchillamiller
      @chinchillamiller 5 месяцев назад +1

      Damn I was with Z like 2012 or 2014 we was in 72 together & I turned myself in but went loaded with tobacco, weed ! He happened to turn himself in too & he too had a few things but was missing like papers & matches but I had all that & I share with everyone so everyone can live a lil you know ? He was a cool dude. I’ve heard all the stories too but I’m from the Brooklyn so I’ve heard these kinda things before. im not gonna lie tho, I made sure I always watched his moves just to be safe but he was cool while we was there i heard he got killed so I guess RIP to Z. He a legend no matter how you look at him

  • @paulmuhammad4189
    @paulmuhammad4189 Месяц назад +2

    POWERFUL thinman. Keep up the rest work!

  • @dr.patrickgaham6123
    @dr.patrickgaham6123 7 месяцев назад +36

    As a child in Long Beach, NY, whenever brothers discussed the “superstars of the block,” Z Black was often used as a comparative benchmark for combat. Now as a grown man and advocate for community and Black male development, I view him as an example of our failure to empathize and acknowledge the pain of young Black boys and men. We can change the narrative. Blessings and RIP for your truth, Z Black.

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  7 месяцев назад +5

      Thank you for taking the time to view but for also sharing your words/experience/insight Doc.

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +2

      Well said Pat. This is Carla and Norman brother, I went to school with iEdwin.

    • @kevinlast3874
      @kevinlast3874 5 месяцев назад

      This was a horrible person that did terrible acts as a grown man. Hopefully rip don't mean in peace

    • @Wulf82
      @Wulf82 4 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@kevinlast3874Thing is God knows what he is doing & us humans better than we know ourselves on average. So RIP or not isn't going to alter where or where not God already knows one belongs on the other side or afterlife

    • @KaoMinerva
      @KaoMinerva 4 месяца назад

      He's dead?

  • @krystalherrand9122
    @krystalherrand9122 5 месяцев назад +17

    I just watched the entire interview and it really broke my heart. The cycle of abuse has to stop. All this man needed was love and a little guidance 😔. He didn’t have anyone and it turned him into a monster.

    • @almcclain5849
      @almcclain5849 5 месяцев назад +1

      😮hurt people,hurt people

    • @krystalherrand9122
      @krystalherrand9122 5 месяцев назад

      @@almcclain5849unfortunately, & that’s why the cycle will always continue 😔

  • @harvydent7154
    @harvydent7154 8 месяцев назад +25

    So many people are born thru, into, and out of pain. Hurt people, hurt people.

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад

      True; a story behind every story.

    • @harvydent7154
      @harvydent7154 8 месяцев назад

      @@thinmannventures Indeed. Immensely powerful channel you've created. I've only found your page a couple of days ago and have shared your videos with multiple people including my Instagram. Thank you for your contributions. ⚔️💯💜💯⚔️

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад +1

      @harvydent7154 Tganks for watching and for sharing. I mean that. That is my goal; to turn people onto other people that we should have been turned onto a long time ago. We’re playing catch up on our own history and culture. Thank you again.

    • @harvydent7154
      @harvydent7154 8 месяцев назад

      @@thinmannventures do you have the Toyka available? I'm recovering from a stroke and lung embolism? And it's funny how small the world is, in sharing a video of yours with a good brother of mine, he told me yall build from time to time. Brother D. Marks. ⚔️💯💜💯⚔️

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@harvydent7154 Ha! I suppose to meet up with him in about 2 hours. Good Brother. A scholar. Yes, I have Toykas. I will give you my email and from there you can take my number. I customize The Toykas but I also have some information (it’s free) that can help with that stroke. I’d like to introduce you to it; like I said, it’s not about money, just something I’d like to share that I’m sure will help.
      thinmannventures@gmail.com

  • @JamesBailey-jp1zc
    @JamesBailey-jp1zc 8 месяцев назад +45

    Pop vazquez from the What You thought podcast brought me here 😆

    • @kingmaj813
      @kingmaj813 6 месяцев назад +2

      😂 that why I’m here I was wondering if this was that z black

    • @MrTonyhead
      @MrTonyhead 6 месяцев назад

      Stumbled on that video this morning 😂😂

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  6 месяцев назад

      Peace. Could you direct me to the episode that Z Black was mentioned. Thanks.

    • @kingmaj813
      @kingmaj813 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@thinmannventures just type in what you thought podcast or pop Vazquez z black and it’s gonna pop up

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah; I’ve seen that one. Thanks though; watched it again.

  • @byronmcdougald6569
    @byronmcdougald6569 7 месяцев назад +9

    Man my heart goes out to the brothers and sisters who were made to endure THIS as children 🙏 May The Most High have Mercy on these souls that feel LOST and I pray that this Brother is a Soul Winner for Christ 👊💯. The Reason you see our Black boys and Girls carrying on the way they are... Old Head said it BEST. Good interview

  • @realityme
    @realityme 7 месяцев назад +37

    I started boxing in 1980 at 6 years old. I was taught on the streets in Far Rockaway by prison boxers that knew Z-Black. Everything he is saying is 100% true. In fact, he is being EXTREMELY modest in describing his skill set. I know MONSTERS who ran prisons in NY that told me, they would never fight Z-Black. He was a super athlete. Bench pressing over 600lbs, calisthenics master with a punch that would kill....literally

    • @tariqziyad8062
      @tariqziyad8062 7 месяцев назад

      You New Yorkers always got fairy tales and stories like people are superhuman. Go sit down somewhere. Santa Claus dont exist

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +3

      Far rock America!!! I'm right next door in Long Beach, salute!

    • @AlbertoPerez-zu6wg
      @AlbertoPerez-zu6wg 5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for sharing

    • @jslaughterofthesoul4939
      @jslaughterofthesoul4939 Месяц назад

      Probably because he was a serial r@pist

    • @OnceAgain08
      @OnceAgain08 7 дней назад +1

      Far Rock America 🇺🇸
      Mott Ave ✊🏾

  • @dhellwitit
    @dhellwitit 7 месяцев назад +15

    Thing in life is you never know what a person has been through in their life to make them act like they do!!! Sad

  • @natashamorning896
    @natashamorning896 5 месяцев назад +10

    Wow looking at zblack him and mom look so much alike i never got to meet my uncle and i heard so many stories about him thank you for this interview

    • @WTWNYC
      @WTWNYC 5 месяцев назад

      Where are you from ? Do you know BIG West and Muffin ?

    • @natashamorning896
      @natashamorning896 5 месяцев назад +1

      @WTWNYC I'm from long Island new York Suffolk county is big west his son if so yes I kno him I met him once when he came to Atlanta idk who muffin is tho

    • @lemontbrown3383
      @lemontbrown3383 4 месяца назад

      ​@natashamorning896 hello sister I'm from Oakland California I'm just amazed and also curious how did he make his transition?

    • @natashamorning896
      @natashamorning896 3 месяца назад

      @@lemontbrown3383 I heard it was kidney failure

  • @nancypantsss5957
    @nancypantsss5957 5 месяцев назад +8

    This is really sad. He still had light in his eyes after all that trauma, hatred, and violence. This is why it’s important to love on young boys and teach them anger management. Yes, he was an offender but at the end of the day, he was still that hurt/vulnerable child trying to find his place in the world. I hope he was forgiven by God and can finally rest.

    • @ErickaLee-ug2dw
      @ErickaLee-ug2dw 8 дней назад

      Tell that to the grown men who fell victim!!, I’m sure hearing his story doesn’t make them feel not one once better about being raped!Miss me with the bullshit, what if it was YOUR son that he raped???

  • @jerrymiles6084
    @jerrymiles6084 2 месяца назад

    This is a great interview and very powerful. Next time turn the music down and clean up the audio.

  • @caliphjones2716
    @caliphjones2716 8 дней назад

    This brother is a surviving expert... I pray he finds peace and Love somewhere

  • @fatsnax3149
    @fatsnax3149 4 месяца назад +3

    Deep Story Homie..The World is A Wild Place... Respect Too All

  • @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979
    @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979 10 месяцев назад +11

    This is some other .....
    Peace

  • @reloadedmusic
    @reloadedmusic 5 месяцев назад +3

    One of my closest friends is From Long Beach Pine street I’m from Hempstead. He used to always tell me stories about Z Black I always heard the stories but never seen him. This is good bro got to tell his story RIP to him

  • @pwhales264
    @pwhales264 8 месяцев назад +15

    This is sad and Powerful interview. I wish that Z BLACK could have left more informative information.

  • @DwayneEdwards-gh4pt
    @DwayneEdwards-gh4pt 9 месяцев назад +13

    Z Black, thank you for your story. U have helped me. RIP

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад +2

      Hopefully you are (and will not be) the only one. Thank you for watching.

    • @Br3nTon2260
      @Br3nTon2260 7 месяцев назад

      This man was a sicko, Zblack was a horrible man a notorious booty bandit in the New York prison system who wad locked up for his part in the Spree Crest Diner Orgy the world's a better place without him. I suggest you do your research on this block and RUclips videos

    • @WarrenHolly
      @WarrenHolly 3 месяца назад

      ​@@thinmannventureshow did he die.

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  3 месяца назад

      @@WarrenHollyI heard, after the fact, that it was a heart attack. I can’t say that for certainty though.

    • @WarrenHolly
      @WarrenHolly 3 месяца назад

      @@thinmannventures thanks 👍🏾

  • @kaleem519
    @kaleem519 7 месяцев назад +12

    I lived in Long Island for a minute I heard some horrible stories about this guy..heard he would knock dudes out and take they manhood..

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah that's facts, both in Long Beach AND Hempstead. I'm not gonna cap, I was terrified of dude. I remember he took my brother weed and my bro was like " oh hell nah poo poo(another one of his nicknames) you gonna beat my ass but we fighting for this weed," and they started laughing, him and my bro was cool, but he doesn't know he's my bro.

    • @misfit1nx865
      @misfit1nx865 5 месяцев назад +3

      Big facts... I'm from the velt and them Z-black stories had me scared to death to get locked up lmao😂

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 5 месяцев назад

      @misfit1nx865 shit, I live in Long Beach and this niggaz used to jump on back of the trucks with us, I used to work for highway and I was only 16. He used to ask us " yo which one of yall hustle? Who yall know hustle?" When the truck stopped at a stop sign, I got off that bitch and boated to the crib. He also used to come into the MLK center and we would run out the other exit.

    • @decstagraziano2404
      @decstagraziano2404 4 месяца назад

      I was just writing a comment about that lol all I see is praise on here no one talking about how he was a piece of shit booty bandit

  • @jeromebrooks3449
    @jeromebrooks3449 9 месяцев назад +13

    Damn... This is one of the most saddest, heartbreaking, soul feeling videos/stories that I have ever seen and I mean that from heart I mean I can understand ppl saying he's a bad guy this and a bad guy that yeah yeah I hear you but hear this you can't be human, you can't have a heart, you can't believe in God if you don't feel bad for this brother... I send nothing but prayers, love and positive energy up for this brother R.I.P. King 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @Exquisite_The_P
    @Exquisite_The_P 7 месяцев назад +18

    What is tragic he hurt more people and families than we can imagine and his ending was due to self demise

  • @krystalherrand9122
    @krystalherrand9122 5 месяцев назад +4

    He also 11:25 brought up KO Smitty who is also legendary with the hands. Smitty knocked out ALOT OF CO’s. The only inmate that walked around everywhere in slippers. They never handcuffed him. He never had to bend over or squat after a visit. I’m talking all the CO’s respect him till this day. He still locked up unfortunately but he alive and well

  • @krystalherrand9122
    @krystalherrand9122 5 месяцев назад +8

    This man is a fucking legend in the penitentiary. I never ever would’ve thought he would let someone interview him. He has the drug dealers in Long Island PRESSED!!! He’s being hella humble in this video. When I tell you people feared this man I couldn’t be more serious.

  • @michaelmarable6113
    @michaelmarable6113 5 месяцев назад +4

    Z black is a legend in the penil system and one of the goats in street fighting ! He is one of the un known champions. Peace my brother, Supreme remembers you.

  • @chrisblack5054
    @chrisblack5054 7 месяцев назад +14

    He brought up Mackie...gangstas crew..mackie and Nova ran the gangstas..i fought into the gangstas in 1975...Nova named me lil Nova...and me and lil mackie ran the young gangstas..i remember ZBlack very well...

  • @derrickbrewer8311
    @derrickbrewer8311 7 месяцев назад +18

    I heard a lot of horror stories about this monster and Mother Dear and one arm row thank you MOST HIGH I never ran into any of these monsters. They were real life monsters!

    • @antoinebrown2798
      @antoinebrown2798 6 месяцев назад +1

      They would’ve died..

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад

      ​@antoinebrown2798 Mexicans tried to slit his throat in jail and came up short. Correctional officers tried to get at him in the elevator fully shackled, and when the elevator opened ALL of them were out cold except 1 CO.

    • @erictubbs6854
      @erictubbs6854 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@antoinebrown2798 Yeah, ok lol internet tough guy

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  6 месяцев назад

      @erictubbs6854 Ok….

    • @krystalherrand9122
      @krystalherrand9122 5 месяцев назад +4

      His name is Dead arm row.

  • @carltonjohnson2349
    @carltonjohnson2349 7 месяцев назад +12

    I knew him as Black Donald and Pu Pu way back in the 3rd grade when he would hang in the bathroom all day at East school in Long Beach NY. Waiting to take your money or whatever you had. I hope he’s in a much better place now.RIP brother.

    • @Ricobaca
      @Ricobaca 7 месяцев назад

      Poo poo like 💩?

  • @carolyndaniels386
    @carolyndaniels386 7 месяцев назад +5

    He was hurt and never recovered from the pain.

  • @hailolight3738
    @hailolight3738 4 месяца назад +1

    Im from freeport long island Konard Harris. long beach is in the same county as me. im also sparring partners with former heavyweight chamo Sean Monaghan. I say that to say this man name has rung bells all through long island from the streets to prison. i served a few years upstate in a medium facility years ago and still Z Black name will forever ring bells. I got to meet him and speak on 72 hour reception in nassau county jail. he was huge and he didnt lie he wasnt a bully and the jail was scared to death of him. He has passed away now. R.I.P. this man was 6 foot 6 at least 350 and moved like a middle weight it was unnatural

  • @astralmindny9055
    @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +3

    Last story. My man popped him. My boy was 16 and he came down the block to strong arm him and his bros and my man popped him and did 3 years. They saw each other in jail and my boy was on the minor tear and and when he pulled up, ALL the minors stood up with my guy, my dude got his props and became a legend after that.

    • @jesusshuttlesworth4101
      @jesusshuttlesworth4101 5 месяцев назад

      What’s yo mans name?

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jesusshuttlesworth4101 you know who it was.

    • @krystalherrand9122
      @krystalherrand9122 3 месяца назад

      @@astralmindny9055Sha Sha the only one I’ve heard that actually fought Z Balck and cut him up. I call cap.

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 3 месяца назад

      @krystalherrand9122 Nah he did. He fought other ppl, and he got cut before, but Sha really carved him up. I heard Black fought this nigga from Queens named " one two," and they said that it was a good one. When they walked away after the fight, one two just dropped to the floor and went to medical.

  • @BigDutchKingTut
    @BigDutchKingTut 10 месяцев назад +16

    Rest in peace, Z Black. Thank you thinmann.

    • @quincyholland1868
      @quincyholland1868 8 месяцев назад +7

      No peace for bandits yall crazy talking about rip for a bandit ya’ll weird

    • @BigDutchKingTut
      @BigDutchKingTut 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@quincyholland1868 what if we bandits as well, it's about the message though, the art, the story..but I feel you..but was he still a bandit?

    • @kevinlast3874
      @kevinlast3874 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nah no rip. Stop glazing bad people

    • @regulariousweedimaximus9495
      @regulariousweedimaximus9495 5 месяцев назад

      Nah he was a demon that doesn't deserve a voice at all

    • @DustyKnucks
      @DustyKnucks 4 месяца назад

      @@quincyholland1868yall are buggin it’s not for u judge. The man’s message is don’t I already walked this so u have to.RIP

  • @Chopping-it-up
    @Chopping-it-up 7 месяцев назад +7

    I grew up in long beach. On pine street in the projects. Back in the 70s 80s and early 90s long beach was not the town it is today it was a wild town back then.

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +1

      I know. When Rays and Herbies fish market was there that's scam
      When LB was crazy. I'm sure you know me, my mother used to work at the fish market.

    • @Chopping-it-up
      @Chopping-it-up 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@astralmindny9055 do you mean the fish market that walbuams supermarket replaced? They have been tearing down all of the black areas of long beach for a bout 40 years now. Very little left of the hood.

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Chopping-it-up it was close to there, yeah!!!

    • @rockosfoodtv
      @rockosfoodtv 5 месяцев назад

      Is wild rite now

    • @edlbny1
      @edlbny1 4 месяца назад

      @@astralmindny9055and Eula’s. Brown derby , all that

  • @getithowyoulive2.
    @getithowyoulive2. 7 месяцев назад +6

    For his brother to do that to him, most likely it was done to his brother. The cycle gotta stop smh

  • @MZDUUVAL6986
    @MZDUUVAL6986 4 месяца назад

    When he said my Mother beat me Like she Beat Me "I Know She Didn't Love Me" that Hurt me So Bad😢😢😢😢😢

  • @artisbowden8811
    @artisbowden8811 Месяц назад

    Fair Play vs Z Black 🥊
    Waverly vs Z Black 🥊
    CLASSIC COUNTY FIGHTS ‘80’s - 90’s

  • @astralmindny9055
    @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +2

    He used to come into the MLK center and we used to be OUT! when we worked for the city, he'd jump on the work trucks and we was terrified!! We were like 17-19.

  • @MRBBALLMAN10
    @MRBBALLMAN10 5 месяцев назад +2

    KO Smitty was known to have the best hands in the state. Even CO’s addressed him with Respect 🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @krystalherrand9122
      @krystalherrand9122 5 месяцев назад

      Yup he was knocking them COs tf outttt!! They knew better.

  • @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979
    @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979 10 месяцев назад +4

    Peace Almighty.
    Any release date for the çGrandmaster of New York "?

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  10 месяцев назад +3

      Peace! I know I keep saying soon but need to get things set up so that people can donate and such. You'll see the advertisements shortly. I promised myself that I'd become familiarized with the business side of this channel during Ramadan. That really is the only hold up. Thanks for holdin' on and always showing support.

    • @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979
      @righteousshadowsdojopt.3979 10 месяцев назад +1

      Peace Almighty. This should be on Netflix now that I think about it.
      Holla at 50 cent,he'd probably be with the ish.
      I can see you're humble b.u.t this is some other ish. You have a jewel,let it shine.
      Holla a Jay-Z also or some rapper/entertainer that can get this where it need to be.
      This is one of a kind.
      You have to think,nobody on the planet has this.
      Also,Holla at Mike Tyson.
      Now that I think about it,he's probably the best person to get with out of the said above.
      Peace Almighty

    • @ViralMediaTrends
      @ViralMediaTrends 7 месяцев назад

      @@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979just holla at these moguls 🤔🤷🏾🤦🏿

  • @astralmindny9055
    @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +4

    Yooo..... you should try to do a netflix series or screenplay about black, AKA " POO POO," I was thinking about it.

  • @drexified2287
    @drexified2287 3 месяца назад

    Ain’t too much worse than telling yourself how good u coulda been then realizing u done wasted so much time it’s too late now😢😢

  • @jay-rock6627
    @jay-rock6627 7 месяцев назад +11

    R.I.P. Z-Black I’m glad I meet you a few times in my life you’re presence was always felt & you’re name rung so many bells so many Knockouts under you’re belt. Everybody says you could’ve been the heavy weight champion & even beat Mike Tyson. All the street fighters said you ran the Jails You are truly a legend. I never saw you fight, but I heard plenty of stories some say you were 10x times better than Riddick Bowe.

  • @kwppropertymang
    @kwppropertymang 8 месяцев назад +4

    RIP my brother ….

  • @Mathematicx
    @Mathematicx 8 месяцев назад +3

    RIP Z Black.
    It would've been powerful to see some sort of demonstration.

  • @sumnercarter
    @sumnercarter 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you 🙏🏽

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад

      And Thank You, for taking the time to watch and to comment.

    • @rico1time
      @rico1time 8 месяцев назад +1

      That's my Man's. Poo poo Aka...Z Black! Grew up wit him...RIP!

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад

      Poo Poo; that’s a new one. Ya’ll must go waaay back.

  • @broadwaybiz211
    @broadwaybiz211 7 месяцев назад +9

    Say what you want but son name was ringing Bells all throughout the state pen

  • @Donyk
    @Donyk 5 месяцев назад +2

    Whatever happened to his Brothers?🤔

  • @cbrathwaite1474
    @cbrathwaite1474 5 месяцев назад +1

    Speechless

  • @astralmindny9055
    @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +2

    I ain't gonna hold you, WHENEVER this man pulled up for the little time he WAS on the streets, I was out, there's no way in HELL I was trying to be within 15-20 ft of this man, oh hell no! And the crazy shit is that my sister and brother was SOLIDIFIED in the hood, but he didn't know they were my siblings and I'm a halfway pretty boy fr fr, I wanted NO parts of him.

  • @mr.jaydeedigga3546
    @mr.jaydeedigga3546 5 месяцев назад

    Yooo
    This is epic

  • @kidsavage86
    @kidsavage86 5 месяцев назад

    Pain makes monsters and understanding of self makes the monsters sit still but still a monster just never wanted to be a monster I have a similar story the abuse at home made me stand out with violence in the streets

  • @ErickaLee-ug2dw
    @ErickaLee-ug2dw 8 дней назад

    Yo I cannot believe all the comments feeling sorry for a stone cold rapist!!…. That’s sad and disgusting! My heart goes out to the men he raped! Him being raped as a child is absolutely no excuse for inflicting that on someone else… he knew exactly how that made him feel, yet enjoyed doing it to others, sad AF

  • @aeubanks0
    @aeubanks0 9 месяцев назад +1

    RIP Brother...🙏✨

  • @Javier-pe7ie
    @Javier-pe7ie 7 месяцев назад +11

    Don’t feel sorry for this guy, just yet…. He did a lot of damage to those that couldn’t defend against him.

    • @leesanurse6474
      @leesanurse6474 6 месяцев назад +8

      Right that's what I said. Tf he talking about nobody tried to stop u. I'm sure the ppl he victimized said no stop u don't have to do this and his big nasty 🍑 continued.

    • @Donyk
      @Donyk 5 месяцев назад

      He said he wasn't a bully though🤔

  • @kyledavid9618
    @kyledavid9618 4 месяца назад +1

    Words can't express the way I feel watching Black because in the 80s Black was Around the way in the middle of the hight of the Crack era. When I first seen Black he was like the biggest black man I have ever seen I mean all black leather long trench coat and walking down Stewart Ave. I can remember him going in one of the first Crack houses there and everyone in the house jumping out of the windows dealers fleeing leaving their work on the triple beam scales and Black taking over their spot. Also remember Black would rob a few guys and some would look out for him like loney lake when Black whould come home from jail he would give Black like $5,000 so he could get on hos feet and Black would come to me and say Lil bro put this money up for me. He would give it to me because he knew I got money in the streets and he could trust I would have whenever he needed it. But it never last long because Black would spend his money less then a week having fun partying whenever he chose. I remember when him and Big H use to box at one of our Crack houses on Stewart he would let Big H hit a 100 times and be laughing and once H was done Black would say ok my turn and H would just laugh dip and say no Black stop playing. Black was a different kind of dude the Black some knew others didn't. He wasn't as a monster as some thought he was a human. I never knew the pain and hate he felt because when we were on the streets he didn't talk much just a grin on his face and Lil bro I'll see you later. I remember being in the county and I didn't get bailed out and Black seen me and he said H and them ain't come get you yet and I said no he was passed off. Also remember the correction officer seeing him talk to me they were scared to death of Black and after that they were letting me do whatever. It's so many stories I could go on for days but watching this video I can only share a few of them because he was more then just a monster. Peace Black Rest In Peace Born to soon he could have been one of the greats but like alot of us he didn't get that break Peace kk

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for that; that’s the conversation I wanted to start with this clip. Anybody can speak, and have an opinion, on the obvious. Anybody can point a finger at what everybody can see, but it’s the things that are not on the surface -the intricacies- that make life, and people, interesting, real and -like you said- human. Thank you again for taking the time to add on to the conversation surrounding Zee; the people that really knew him will appreciate your words.

    • @kyledavid9618
      @kyledavid9618 4 месяца назад

      @thinmannventures Yes Sir Your Welcome Great Video It really hit home for all those who knew Black or who we thought we knew beyond his pain.

  • @kidsavage86
    @kidsavage86 5 месяцев назад +1

    That 52 is what our father taught us saved my ass alot

    • @spencerpogue
      @spencerpogue 4 месяца назад

      What is the 52?

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  4 месяца назад +2

      @spencerpogue. 52 (or 52 Blocks) is a style of fighting started and practiced by Black people here in America. It springs from our culture and experiences and utilizes blocking, striking, deception and unorthodox hand, head and foot movements. Good question.

    • @spencerpogue
      @spencerpogue 4 месяца назад

      @@thinmannventures damn I gotta check this out thank you for responding definitely a great interview!

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  4 месяца назад

      @spencerpogue. Thank you for checking it out Brother. Daniel Marks(facebook), farisdaniel (instagram), constellation 52 Global (google) are good places to start. In my travels, he has the most history and technicalities when it comes to 52. He also has a couple of documentaries on it.

    • @DustyKnucks
      @DustyKnucks 4 месяца назад

      @@spencerpogueJudah vs Mayweather Rd5 last45 maybe. Zab puts it on a lil bit
      Tyson had it naturally blend in his style

  • @natashamorning896
    @natashamorning896 5 месяцев назад +6

    Wow this is my real life uncle that I never got to meet

    • @fewgood3068
      @fewgood3068 5 месяцев назад

      Condolences for your lost, yet if this is in fact your Uncle… it would be a nice addition to this Legacy, if you were to connect the dots with your Mom and this content creator.. respectfully.. as you can see his Legend is timeless and with our a doubt recognized thru out the streets and prison of New York even World wide.. just a thought.. much love sis peace n blessings

    • @natashamorning896
      @natashamorning896 5 месяцев назад +1

      @fewgood3068 thank you to be honest I'm still connecting the dots myself my mother died when I was 9 years old I just met z black son a few years ago along with a few of my sisters I'm just getting to know my mother's side of my family

    • @raheimbowman6141
      @raheimbowman6141 4 месяца назад

      I agree 💯

  • @broadwaybiz211
    @broadwaybiz211 7 месяцев назад

    This exclusive jus subscribed

  • @squarebiz71
    @squarebiz71 10 месяцев назад +2

    👍🏾🫡

  • @blastbarrett132
    @blastbarrett132 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can't hear him talking. Music to loud

  • @PurpleRain-vw8re
    @PurpleRain-vw8re 5 месяцев назад +5

    Background music is not needed throws off the interview

  • @AkhirahTrent
    @AkhirahTrent 5 месяцев назад

    I herd preacher was tall and nice with his Hans also.who yall think would win

  • @Culley91
    @Culley91 8 месяцев назад +5

    Wait this is Z black talking himself. ??

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад +5

      Yes Sir. It is. May be his only interview.

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +3

      Hell yeah, crazy right? I'm from LB and never knew this shit was out there, I'm about to send this to the WHOLE hood!!

  • @Thugnificent777
    @Thugnificent777 4 месяца назад +1

    What’s his name?

    • @52_VtK
      @52_VtK 3 месяца назад

      @@Thugnificent777 Donald Thomas

  • @516samwicked
    @516samwicked 8 месяцев назад

    Wicked my guy s.i.p 🌹🍾🙏🏾💫🕊️

  • @catherinesmith3754
    @catherinesmith3754 6 месяцев назад +1

    How long was he in prison

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +1

      Damn near his entire life. I heard the stories since I was like 12, and the first time I actually saw him, I was about........29. I would say he did about 30-33 years out of his life.

  • @AkhirahTrent
    @AkhirahTrent 5 месяцев назад

    I've seen cats talk of him on you tube..I finally seen him. Deep story...keep yo head up

  • @catherinesmith3754
    @catherinesmith3754 6 месяцев назад +1

    How old was he when he died and how did he lose his teeth and what did he die from

    • @astralmindny9055
      @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +1

      He overdosed and he was about 58-60, and he lost his teeth smoking Crack.

    • @happypeople6060
      @happypeople6060 Месяц назад

      He died catching a jux in Brooklyn got hit by a car running away

  • @astralmindny9055
    @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад

    He stunting, ALL CAP. I was talking to someone who just gave me a weed pack and dude a kind of feminie, everybody in the town knows him for being feminie. We had a few words, nothing crazy, and Z black saw us talking and posted up on the fence, now at this point I was TERRIFIED because i know how he give it up. Dude said " oh okay ur right, you probably did come to my house at 4:00, i wasn't there, i was getting my hair braided, and Z black said to him, " That's when i would have kicked him in the ass." I walked off, and as soon as i got to the corner i was GHOST!!! this dude might be the biggest menace on Long Island, and he lived 2 blocks away from me

  • @johnbrown8300
    @johnbrown8300 7 месяцев назад +1

    I hate I feel him. God and age equal ❤😢tym. 💪

  • @lancebell731
    @lancebell731 4 месяца назад

    How did Z DIE

  • @broadwaybiz211
    @broadwaybiz211 7 месяцев назад +1

    I heard he was nice in every sport

  • @michaelmarable6113
    @michaelmarable6113 5 месяцев назад +1

    I did time with this guy in coxsackie prison "pissy black"or Z black was a good dude! And an athletic beast hands like George foreman! Much respect bro.

    • @KaoMinerva
      @KaoMinerva 4 месяца назад +2

      They saying he raped people tho

  • @stevenm6453
    @stevenm6453 7 месяцев назад +9

    This was very good except for the background music it wasn’t needed.

    • @Donyk
      @Donyk 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah it could have been lowered volume...

  • @donfigga7613
    @donfigga7613 4 месяца назад

    I was in Nassau County Jail briefly in October 1988. I came in the house Z-Black was in I remember how the whole tier was afraid, I had already heard about his rep. As fate would have it I was immediately moved out the house because I was a parole violator. When I saw his face I could tell he was a man who was in a lot of spiritual pain

  • @jdollarthegreat
    @jdollarthegreat 5 месяцев назад +2

    Respectfully but how did he ever get out of prison? I heard he robbed a diner and had like 75 ppl rape each other and all types of craziness

    • @52_VtK
      @52_VtK 4 месяца назад +1

      This is untrue. You can research the case you're speaking of here on RUclips. There are pictures of the people who were involved, & their names are all mentioned. Z Black isn't mentioned among them. Also, the guys from that case were all from Brooklyn.

    • @time558
      @time558 3 месяца назад +1

      @@52_VtK Well, there is a channel of ninjas who knew about him , and yes they're saying this guy was at the Seacrest diner rampage, so I don't know, at the same time he said he got shot in 98, if he was one of the Seacrest diner guy, I don't think he would be outside in 98...I don't know his real name tho.

    • @52_VtK
      @52_VtK 3 месяца назад +1

      @@time558 his real name is Donald Thomas

    • @time558
      @time558 3 месяца назад +1

      @@52_VtK You mean Donald Thomas is Z ? That's crazy, I heard his last name was Brown, thank you tho.

    • @52_VtK
      @52_VtK 3 месяца назад

      @@time558 He actually says his name himself at the very beginning of the video

  • @BigDragon95
    @BigDragon95 8 месяцев назад +3

    Does z black have any children ?

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  8 месяцев назад +1

      Peace. He did mention at least one child when we spoke but I don’t recall if it was more than one.

    • @wesleyrobinson4949
      @wesleyrobinson4949 8 месяцев назад +3

      I heard he has a son that is a good kid and works for the Town of Hempstead. He looks just like his father.

    • @Exquisite_The_P
      @Exquisite_The_P 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@thinmannventures he do have a son a kid went to school with him and said he was the biggest kid in high school but he hated his father

  • @websurfer8670
    @websurfer8670 5 месяцев назад +2

    Mike tyson if he never found Cus

  • @whatujackintv.talkcast
    @whatujackintv.talkcast 7 месяцев назад

    This was passionate, heartfelt .

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for watching, thank you for commenting.

    • @whatujackintv.talkcast
      @whatujackintv.talkcast 7 месяцев назад +1

      @thinmannventures I'm from coney island as well 45!
      I been up north as well .
      I heard his name from others that's been upnorth.
      But this short film documentary - was passionate heartfelt .
      - I hope someone seen this an tern this into a film - it's worth it .

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  7 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. Check the other brothers highlighted on my channel; they could make movies based on all of them (but I do agree that Z Black is different; you could live a lifetime and never hear a story like his again). I’m about to check your channel out now.

    • @whatujackintv.talkcast
      @whatujackintv.talkcast 7 месяцев назад

      @@thinmannventures this short film hit me hard ! I'm pretty sure he had alot to say !
      Me as well - I'm on my own documentary!
      Yes I been in Comstock & more - on tour banging young !

  • @rickrogers951
    @rickrogers951 8 месяцев назад +5

    May Allah bless the Brother's soul, forgive him and admit him into paradise...

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 5 месяцев назад +2

      No way

    • @jessejames5906
      @jessejames5906 5 месяцев назад

      ​@salj.5459 All it takes is repentance. No matter what the deeds are. A humans view is never like The Most High.... I just heard about him yesterday in another video about the diner robbery. Then I found other stuff he was known for which ain't cool at all.. Twisted actions yes, but he said in this video he was giving bullies the blues. With the persin in mind who violated him in his childhood..He aint treat the wise men who taught him things like that. You have to be some kind of humble & respectful human being for a real martial artist or experienced boxer to teach ya anything... You yourself probably have committed sins God will send you to hell for if you don't repent. No human on this planet is banned from The Most Highs Mercy/ Forgiveness if they sincerely repent.. Only things gaurentee we won't get the Mercy & Forgiveness is believing in false pegan diety or committing suicide.. You experience this dudes childhood pain & his experiences behind them walls you woulda harmed yourself long time ago... You can't see the forrest because of the trees... No matter what the dude did wrong in his life I don't see a grimey individual who is proud of his actions like majority of theses dumb ass just doing shit with no remorse.. Fuck what you heard & what you thought. A true believer is not always a person that lives a squre life like you...He just might make it to eternal paradise & you never will.. None of us know our final destination. None of us.. That's living the understanding of "only God can Judge me" Bump what you talking about.. Beyond that if he was used By The Most High to punish people who prey on the weak while he was living then thats another realm of understanding you can't comprehend. Oh yeah it gets deeper than deep.. And get that rafter out of your eye before you try to pull out what just might equal a straw in his.

    • @jessejames5906
      @jessejames5906 5 месяцев назад +1

      @rickrogers951.Just a reminder that if Allah will forgive this dude then I for sure got action if I repent too. This world is twisted. If I make it to paradise or not( InshaAllah I do) I really want to see the faces of the who just "know" they are going to make it see the people they frowned upon that was actually closer to Allah than them make it..

  • @Daghostclk
    @Daghostclk 8 месяцев назад +2

    RIP to Z Black. May you soul be ease 🫡

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 5 месяцев назад

      Do you even know who you are saying "RIP" to? This guy was a serial grapist

  • @jesusshuttlesworth4101
    @jesusshuttlesworth4101 4 месяца назад

    What was dudes real name??

    • @TSoprano
      @TSoprano 4 месяца назад

      Pissy black

    • @DustyKnucks
      @DustyKnucks 4 месяца назад

      Watch first 8 sec

  • @edlbny1
    @edlbny1 4 месяца назад

    Peace , Long Beach 🫡

  • @HBillionz-b6r
    @HBillionz-b6r 3 месяца назад

    Rip #ZBlack

    • @peteytv9883
      @peteytv9883 2 месяца назад +1

      Why ya sayin RIP to a predator

  • @kaleem519
    @kaleem519 6 месяцев назад +1

    this was a great interview just wish you would've asked him why as he himself being a victim molestation why did he turn around and victimized countless ppl

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  6 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you. It should be noted, that my original purpose in interviewing him was the martial arts/boxing angle.
      Back then, when I was doing the interviews, I was very focused on the goal, which was The Grandmasters of New York documentary, and didn’t want to get sidetracked by other issues and angles.
      I did, however, know that Zee’s story was bigger than martial arts and boxing so I knew I’d come back to it eventually. This is why I edited and uploaded this piece approximately 10 years after it was recorded.
      I have a lot of footage like that (from the other masters) that I’ve been going back over, since I never intended for my channel to be exclusively about martial arts.
      Thanks for checking it out; I’ve considered doing a follow up with some of the background behind the interview and also include some of the people that knew him (mostly from prison).

  • @richshankle8412
    @richshankle8412 7 месяцев назад +2

    So what happen with Sha Sha n Hollywood???

  • @DannieBriggs-r8n
    @DannieBriggs-r8n 4 месяца назад

    I was in prison with z black clin 1991

  • @DanielBelcher-e7i
    @DanielBelcher-e7i 2 месяца назад

    Well done. Yahweh is able. Excellent work.

  • @ramseeshasthe3pillarsoflight
    @ramseeshasthe3pillarsoflight 3 месяца назад

    long beach long island got damn. i thought it was gonna be a BK dude

  • @Exquisite_The_P
    @Exquisite_The_P 4 месяца назад

    I did a review on this video it’s on my RUclips channel

  • @michaellondonmusic1
    @michaellondonmusic1 5 месяцев назад

    I was in Nassau county with him for a couple months in 07 I seen some shit

  • @broadwaybiz211
    @broadwaybiz211 7 месяцев назад +1

    Strong island

  • @vincentwitt7919
    @vincentwitt7919 7 месяцев назад

    Everyone says you was Great at every sport etc May Allah guide you

    • @thinmannventures
      @thinmannventures  7 месяцев назад

      True. I’ve been intending to speak with a few Brothers I know that can attest to that.

  • @wisebrim5967
    @wisebrim5967 6 месяцев назад +1

    I was in sing sing with him

    • @Donyk
      @Donyk 5 месяцев назад +1

      You should share stories about his time there...

  • @cushanjones1426
    @cushanjones1426 10 месяцев назад

    Peace

  • @ReceKnight
    @ReceKnight 5 месяцев назад

    Long Beach finest

  • @astralmindny9055
    @astralmindny9055 6 месяцев назад +2

    If yall from LB stand up and shoot a like!!

  • @whatujackintv.talkcast
    @whatujackintv.talkcast 7 месяцев назад

    173 for the support