Gravitational Waves Detected From Betelgeuse? Did It Explode?

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  • @whatdamath
    @whatdamath  4 года назад +1153

    Small update: as of January 22, 2020, Betelgeuse has dimmed even more, much lower than in any previous decades of observation. Most recent observation was only a day ago. The gravitational wave that was detected has now created its own mystery - nobody knows what caused it and where it came from.

    • @GeoStreber
      @GeoStreber 4 года назад +27

      What's the newest measured magnitude? It's getting close to Bellatrix now, maybe 1.6?

    • @PD5K
      @PD5K 4 года назад +54

      Say it 2 more times
      I know what's coming!

    • @austin6174
      @austin6174 4 года назад +110

      Whoever lives to see B go boom is going to get to see a very special event that history will be looking back on for a long time. How awesome would it be for our kids to tell stories of their grandparents lives when that star in the sky blew up. Kinda nostalgic about the idea

    • @ufosandunusualevents6637
      @ufosandunusualevents6637 4 года назад +13

      I look forward to learning more about this. Thank you

    • @arthemis1039
      @arthemis1039 4 года назад +47

      @@austin6174 Think it happened in the 16th century. Wonder how many religions were born because of such events

  • @FranFerioli
    @FranFerioli 4 года назад +761

    "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if a bright star suddenly cried out in terror and was suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened." - LIGO

  • @whiskyexpertsvideos
    @whiskyexpertsvideos 4 года назад +283

    A law of news: If there is a question in the headline, the answer is "no".

    • @duudsuufd
      @duudsuufd 4 года назад +20

      True. i never read news articles with a question mark.
      But I still watched this video because very few talk about gravitational waves.

    • @34ccsn
      @34ccsn 4 года назад +4

      I like that, I am going to steal that 😀

    • @nosotros8277
      @nosotros8277 3 года назад

      @@duudsuufd GWs are increasingly being discussed amongst those who have better explanations for the alleged phenomenon.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 3 года назад +2

      “Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse!”

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 3 года назад +1

      @@nosotros8277
      What about the wavitational graves!

  • @panther105
    @panther105 4 года назад +385

    When Anton says, "Hello, wonderful person.", you know he's only talking to me, right?!

    • @stevenbjerke2825
      @stevenbjerke2825 4 года назад +45

      Yeah, but sometimes I pretend he is talking to me instead.

    • @SamCM40K
      @SamCM40K 4 года назад +16

      I thought that was a given everybody knew that?

    • @panther105
      @panther105 4 года назад +14

      @@SamCM40K One of the nicest greetings of any popular RUclipsrs.. .

    • @simonettacarsonelli
      @simonettacarsonelli 4 года назад +3

      Hell, wot a wonderful person. LOL

    • @jonfleck8687
      @jonfleck8687 4 года назад +8

      Yes, I know he is only talking to me.

  • @spaceghost4474
    @spaceghost4474 4 года назад +645

    I would REALLY like to see it explode in my lifetime.
    What an absolutely wonderful, once in a lifetime experience that would be.

    • @ivarbrouwer197
      @ivarbrouwer197 4 года назад +8

      I guess you mean the lifetime of this star, because Betelgeuse like stars live hundreds of of millions of years...

    • @darthollie
      @darthollie 4 года назад +85

      @Romulas Ex I would disagree, our star isn't extraordinary in any field, but beutelgeuse is incredibly large, making it a bit more exciting

    • @alberteinstein1452
      @alberteinstein1452 4 года назад +36

      Once in a thousand lifetimes more like it!

    • @Rivenburg-xd5yf
      @Rivenburg-xd5yf 4 года назад +9

      until the gamma gets here and cloud formation increases. maybe. but yeah, like the comets a decade back, fascinating.

    • @gregghorner9107
      @gregghorner9107 4 года назад +41

      Yep, I am hoping it exploded 642 yrs ago and we are about to see it as the light finally arrives.
      Long shot, but how cool would that be?
      It's amazing to me that with all the stars in the galaxy, this is the only one we know of that maybe, could go suprenova soon.

  • @gwiyomikim5988
    @gwiyomikim5988 4 года назад +583

    I used to drive a Chevy Nova that in fact did explode in my lifetime.

    • @jeffreyhancock8831
      @jeffreyhancock8831 4 года назад +5

      Ha! Nice!!!

    • @TheSJeske
      @TheSJeske 4 года назад +10

      Well played

    • @carlyandt6748
      @carlyandt6748 4 года назад +9

      Gwiyomi Kim Nova also means no go in Spanish

    • @donaldsmith3926
      @donaldsmith3926 4 года назад +9

      My brother exploded his red Nova by forgetting to shift up on the turnpike; that loud music gets ya every time.

    • @PabloSanchez-qu6ib
      @PabloSanchez-qu6ib 4 года назад +2

      @@carlyandt6748 not really. Stress is different and no VA sounds unlike NOva.

  • @jaybee9269
    @jaybee9269 4 года назад +357

    Just the other day my nephew asked me how stars die. And I said, “Usually by drug overdose.”

  • @railgap
    @railgap 4 года назад +116

    Um if LIGO detected Betelgeuse exploding, we'd be able to see it. Gravity waves propagate at the speed of light. The gravity waves would arrive at the same time as the light of the explosion.

    • @ShifuCareaga
      @ShifuCareaga 4 года назад +15

      Thank you for stating this. These ppl are so easily fooled.

    • @absurdengineering
      @absurdengineering 4 года назад +36

      “Free space” has some dispersion since it’s not entirely free of matter. There’s lots of stuff across 700 LY of interstellar space inside a galaxy. The gravity waves will always go faster than light in such environment, IIRC.

    • @ShifuCareaga
      @ShifuCareaga 4 года назад +5

      @@absurdengineering LIKE MAGIC
      get real.

    • @southernairman5628
      @southernairman5628 4 года назад +1

      I wonder if there are any particles that can be detected that travel faster than the speed of light upon the supernova event ? I wonder if we have the technology to detect it ?

    • @ShifuCareaga
      @ShifuCareaga 4 года назад +1

      @@southernairman5628 entire chunks of matter do so id say yeah

  • @pat5star
    @pat5star 4 года назад +385

    “‘It’s better to burn out than to fade away” -Betelgeuse

    • @tennoshenaniganizer9234
      @tennoshenaniganizer9234 4 года назад +19

      "Send me out...with a BANG." - Sgt Johnson, Halo 3

    • @gordonhorridge6145
      @gordonhorridge6145 4 года назад +9

      There can be only one!

    • @trysis260
      @trysis260 4 года назад +5

      that is what Betelgeuse is singing
      I'm going out in a Blaze of Glory

    • @donwald3436
      @donwald3436 4 года назад +2

      I burned out and wish I faded out instead.

    • @lucalone
      @lucalone 4 года назад +5

      that quote is from Neil Young^

  • @sulphurous2656
    @sulphurous2656 4 года назад +365

    "It exploded, the core exploded!"
    *looks through telescope*
    "He's in shock, get him out of here."

    • @zoidberg444
      @zoidberg444 4 года назад +23

      What does the doseimeter say?

    • @agentk3984
      @agentk3984 4 года назад +37

      @@zoidberg444 3.6 but thats as high as the meter goes...

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo 4 года назад +3

      Agent K so that means... it did? Since that’s the highest value? Or is the meter too sensitive hence the high reading?

    • @redshirt5126
      @redshirt5126 4 года назад +29

      "You didn't see Betelgeuse explode..... YOU DIDN'T!!!! Because it's still there!!"

    • @foiramink6164
      @foiramink6164 4 года назад +9

      “You’re delusional.”

  • @carso1500
    @carso1500 4 года назад +166

    I just want a minute to apreciate how we can now say "gravity waves detectes from a nearby star" and it's not just bad science fiction and no one bats an eye any more, it has just become another thing that we can do, that we have the technology to detect gravity waves and that gives us a whole nother understanding of how the universe works, it's just amazing

    • @christofl6523
      @christofl6523 4 года назад +2

      They can say anything but that doesn't make it true. This stuff is science fiction not science.

    • @yanair2091
      @yanair2091 4 года назад +10

      It hasn't been science fiction for hundred years, we just didn't have the technology to detect them.

    • @christofl6523
      @christofl6523 4 года назад +2

      @@yanair2091 They can't even define what gravity is so no they can't detect "gravity waves."

    • @PositiviteaTheFirst
      @PositiviteaTheFirst 4 года назад +18

      @@christofl6523 Just because we can't define something does not mean it isn't observable.

    • @valeriegrey8328
      @valeriegrey8328 4 года назад +7

      Christof L dude... what?

  • @JM-yc1nh
    @JM-yc1nh 3 года назад +1

    I like him. He regards anyone looking to learn as wonderful person. Wish everyone was a little like that.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 4 года назад +290

    So now Ford Prefect can understand how Arthur felt …

    • @codename495
      @codename495 4 года назад +16

      But he still cannot adequately explain what a collapsing HRUNG is.

    • @aeredhaelredfalen6194
      @aeredhaelredfalen6194 4 года назад +6

      @@codename495
      It's kind of like a Gnab Gib.

    • @daddymuggle
      @daddymuggle 4 года назад +5

      In the vicinity of Betelgeuse.

    • @robertmizek3315
      @robertmizek3315 4 года назад +5

      Best RUclips comment in a long time!

    • @sneakyfox4651
      @sneakyfox4651 4 года назад +10

      It happened when Disaster Area bagan their sound check before the concert.

  • @greybeard804
    @greybeard804 4 года назад +420

    "Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse!"
    We're screwed now!

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 4 года назад +9

      It's 630 light years away. It won't do anything to the Earth - even when the wavefront gets here. Too far.

    • @badgerbush3556
      @badgerbush3556 4 года назад +26

      For the love of feck what did you do that for.
      Here come the sand worms 🐛
      AAAAAAAAAGH

    • @Domispitaletti
      @Domispitaletti 4 года назад +15

      Damn...You should never repeat it three times..

    • @bossingtv1110
      @bossingtv1110 4 года назад +8

      bettlejuice

    • @herogibson
      @herogibson 4 года назад +8

      now you've done it!!

  • @professordanfurmanek3732
    @professordanfurmanek3732 3 года назад +5

    Retired astronomy professor, wonderfully detailed and genuinely inspiring video!! It truly shines a spotlight on the need for further research.

  • @Century_Chandra
    @Century_Chandra 4 года назад +77

    Seeing a supernova that's visible by the naked eye would be the most amazing thing ever

    • @mikeriley9915
      @mikeriley9915 4 года назад +5

      That would be and at the same time be horrifying.....

    • @Century_Chandra
      @Century_Chandra 4 года назад +16

      Betelgeuse is 640 LY away at it's closest point, far enough to be completely harmless for earth, close enough to give a spectacular light show

    • @ITS_JS-sc6gy
      @ITS_JS-sc6gy 4 года назад +1

      Supernovae* just wanna correct it hehe

    • @LordZama
      @LordZama 4 года назад +20

      @@ITS_JS-sc6gy Supernovae is plural, supernova is being used appropriately here

    • @ytubesucksazznow
      @ytubesucksazznow 4 года назад

      there was one not to long ago ... about a year ago... you could see a huge new bright star in sky for a month or so... but it wasnt a star at all.

  • @abc-salat2629
    @abc-salat2629 4 года назад +85

    You're such a wonderful person. I hope you are happy and healthy, you deserve it.

    • @ps5056
      @ps5056 4 года назад +5

      Thank you, I know. Same to you too.

    • @ohhellno8759
      @ohhellno8759 4 года назад

      Lol ur comment has 69 likes

  • @urbanshadow777
    @urbanshadow777 4 года назад +119

    Anton: Star cluster OB1A
    My brain: OB1 "kenob" A

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname 4 года назад +1

      Me: stop...just stop

    • @smolder6366
      @smolder6366 4 года назад +5

      @@finscreenname also kenob me: Hello There!

    • @changeagent228
      @changeagent228 4 года назад

      Onli Yu Kud Yubi

    • @practical9640
      @practical9640 4 года назад

      Hello there

    • @MultiAlanR
      @MultiAlanR 4 года назад +2

      I sense a movie crossover with Beetlejuice and Obi Wan is inevitable

  • @karensagal8230
    @karensagal8230 4 года назад +1

    Hello Anton, you wonderful person!
    Thank you again for another wonderfully informative video. You explain things in an intelligent way, which informs people who are not as scientifically trained as you are, in a language we can understand.
    Just wanted to let you know how much many of us appreciate this as well as you.
    Bless you, good sir and thank you so much!

  • @davidlittlefield2483
    @davidlittlefield2483 4 года назад +2

    Oh my Betelgeuse, my lifelong friend. Always there to comfort me with your shimmering warmth from afar. Now your ancient heart is shrinking and the final act draws near. I pray for one more glimpse of your glorious light before you disappear.

  • @slayerem
    @slayerem 4 года назад +227

    As soon as I've seen the title I went outside to check the sky. It's still there and it's still a beutiful star.

    • @_lux_aeterna_
      @_lux_aeterna_ 4 года назад +58

      If it blew up last week you would have to wait 640 years to see it

    • @Wm7forthewin
      @Wm7forthewin 4 года назад +18

      +XBOX ROCKS well we’d actually have a few years left. I assume we didn’t see the light yet because it’s being obstructed by stuff in space, while the gravitational waves didn’t. So i think in a few years the bright star will become a ultra bright supernova.
      That’s if all of this is true.

    • @incription
      @incription 4 года назад +14

      The gravitational waves come before a stars collapse as the light is only created after the implosion. I can't explain it that well

    • @geemailMossman
      @geemailMossman 4 года назад +14

      @@_lux_aeterna_ yes unless it blew up 640 years ago...

    • @_lux_aeterna_
      @_lux_aeterna_ 4 года назад

      @High Overlord Snarffie Beagle its 11pm here in northwest england

  • @OmegaWolf747
    @OmegaWolf747 4 года назад +168

    So, instead of an old ailing star at death's doorstep, we have a young, vibrant star whirling about in the aftermath of its binary merger? Excellent!

    • @stillawakening4721
      @stillawakening4721 4 года назад +16

      Marvelous! Wonderous! STUPENDOUS!!!!!
      Tbh, I'm not even sure what that means to me, but I love GETTING EXITED! 😃

    • @SolidSiren
      @SolidSiren 4 года назад

      No no...Thats not how it works. Small stars last for billions of years. Huge stars burn their fuel faster and live much less time- millions of years.

    • @alfredoprime5495
      @alfredoprime5495 4 года назад +2

      @@SolidSiren as you say, millions of years and not the tens (or hundreds) of thousands that the original theory predicted

    • @SolidSiren
      @SolidSiren 4 года назад

      @@alfredoprime5495 The star is already around 10 myo.

    • @SolidSiren
      @SolidSiren 4 года назад +2

      @@alfredoprime5495 the estimates of a supernova date of 100k to 1 million yrs from now are those values because we have an estimate of how long stars this size typically live. We don't just make these figures up, its based on observations (not of supernovas obviously, but we can estimate their ages based on their mass, volume, and spectrum signatures that tell us what elements the star is burning, stars spend a certain amount of time in main sequence based on mass estimates, and how old clusters/galaxies are based on their physical configuration)

  • @the_venomous_viper1234
    @the_venomous_viper1234 4 года назад +48

    It’s probably just Zaphod Beeblebrox and Ford Prefect messing around in the Heart of Gold

    • @TheKorbi
      @TheKorbi 3 года назад

      I was looking for a comment like this! :D

    • @revci666
      @revci666 3 года назад

      That be a probability wave being detected.

    • @mathjertstrom3325
      @mathjertstrom3325 3 года назад

      That's improbably improbable

    • @j.m.w.5064
      @j.m.w.5064 3 года назад

      What is a Hrung and why did it have to explode?

    • @NightRunner417
      @NightRunner417 2 года назад

      If we get barraged by a spaceborne cloud of Cod fish or hard boiled eggs in the next several decades, I'm going to be really unhappy with you.

  • @docwiz
    @docwiz 3 года назад +2

    I love this chat. Good way to make a wonderful person smile after having a rough week.

  • @karansjet3823
    @karansjet3823 4 года назад +125

    last time i was this early Betelgeuse hadn't exploded yet

  • @MattChez
    @MattChez 4 года назад +169

    I think it's most likely attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

    • @richcole2314
      @richcole2314 4 года назад +10

      this is getting way less likes than it should

    • @ftaghnify
      @ftaghnify 4 года назад +17

      C-beams glittering in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate

    • @mkaberli
      @mkaberli 4 года назад +9

      Like tears in the rain.

    • @krymsun3134
      @krymsun3134 4 года назад +2

      It took me 5 times to understand

    • @patrickfitzgerald2861
      @patrickfitzgerald2861 4 года назад

      It's not its.

  • @jmell2562
    @jmell2562 3 года назад

    Hi Anton..thank you for acknowledging me personally by saying ' hello wonderful person '

  • @vacuolarchaff6756
    @vacuolarchaff6756 4 года назад

    I love all the videos youv made, your one of the most descriptive, most accurate on space discoverys and make ur own opinions on them, and im thankfull someone like you makes these types of videos

  • @zew1414
    @zew1414 4 года назад +76

    Really hope I get to witness the explosion in my lifetime. To think most people never het to see Haley's Comet, I maybe able to see it twice.

    • @Ulvetann
      @Ulvetann 4 года назад +12

      Knowing my luck, I'll be sleeping or it will be cloudy for thirteen weeks straight.

    • @zew1414
      @zew1414 4 года назад +2

      @Toughen Up, Fluffy yea man Hale Bopp's tail of black Nike's and purple shrouds was very colorful!
      I was young during Haley's last go around (8 I think) I do remember thinking it was lackluster

    • @lexanten6620
      @lexanten6620 4 года назад +4

      Hate to be that guy but Betelgeuse is 642.5 light-years away from Earth, So it would take 642.5 years for the light of Betelgeuse to reach earth. So we are basically seeing Betelgeuse from roughly 642.5 years ago and if it has already gone supernova, it would be seen 632.5 years in the future :(

    • @andrewpaige1194
      @andrewpaige1194 4 года назад +8

      1Epicsoda yeah, but how far away it is really doesn’t matter. When people r talking about it “right now” it actually MEANS 642.5ya, not this “star date”. So people wondering if it “just” exploded is wondering if it exploded 642.5ya.

    • @Banana_Jesus_
      @Banana_Jesus_ 4 года назад

      @@andrewpaige1194 boom

  • @stephenfritz7493
    @stephenfritz7493 4 года назад +243

    Betelgeuse: this isn't even my final form.
    Betelgeuse: powers up.
    This is a dragonball z episode (It's going to be spread out over a lot of episodes).

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 4 года назад +15

      Say goodbye to your planet Kakarot! Just give me a million years!

    • @stephenfritz7493
      @stephenfritz7493 4 года назад +10

      Maybe Betelgeuse is the legendary super nova. Find out next time on wdm super

    • @InterSeptZ
      @InterSeptZ 4 года назад +4

      "Stop this Betelgeuse! You're going to drain away all the time you have left in the galaxy!"

    • @ghostnoodle9721
      @ghostnoodle9721 4 года назад +2

      Rico Otherwise known as one season

    • @SarthorS
      @SarthorS 4 года назад +3

      @Illphaqup Nah, it's a gigantic creeper. Something got too close to it, so it swelled up and is getting ready to blow up.

  • @TheJStamey
    @TheJStamey 4 года назад

    It's great to see an intelligent subject presented in intelligent manner for non-intelligent people such as myself. I really like your style.

  • @jonathanturek5846
    @jonathanturek5846 3 года назад

    Hey i want to say thank you for taking your time to provide this wonderful data

  • @oparei8725
    @oparei8725 4 года назад +85

    Simply extraordinary, can you imagine this happening in our life time?
    It's a statically anomaly just to witness this, it is a remarkable event indeed.

    • @jackrufio
      @jackrufio 4 года назад +1

      It's not. 100 stars vanished since 2015, why do you think this is? 290k objects were unaccounted for. NASA never went back to the moon. "Soon" they will go to mars? I've seen at least 4 very clear green screen errors in ISS footage with some objects in the foreground on the sides that were permanent when the green screen bugged. I've seen the ISS with my eyes in the nightsky and know about the coriolis effect.
      There is the P1000 camera now, it has such a great zoom and you can see buildings 50 miles away. How is this possible? If you do the math you lose 8 inches square per mile. We are being lied to about virtually everything these days (climate, vaccines, dinosaurs, Tartary, dielectricity, ect). Earth axis is 66,6 degrees, it's speed is 666xx miles through space and it's rotating 1666 km/h around its axis. Call me a flattard but I believe it is based on the evidence.

    • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
      @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 4 года назад +9

      @@jackrufio OK boomer.

    • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
      @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 4 года назад +7

      @@jackrufio u a flatearth guy am i right.

    • @cade8986
      @cade8986 4 года назад +6

      B for Basti Lol grow up

    • @SpicyMang0s
      @SpicyMang0s 4 года назад +4

      B for Basti literally nobody asked

  • @InterSeptZ
    @InterSeptZ 4 года назад +49

    I believe this is the earliest stages of a star going supernova. I hope aspiring astronomers and cosmologists in the coming centuries will be around long enough to document every sequence of this event.

    • @JimboJones99
      @JimboJones99 4 года назад +2

      Betelgeuse is 700 light years away. Doesn't that mean that whatever we see happening in our NOW, means it happened 700 years ago ?

    • @larryxiang822
      @larryxiang822 4 года назад +7

      Kailem Jones yes but that also would mean that betelgeuse could have exploded hundreds of years ago and we don’t know because we’re looking at 700 year old light.

    • @StoneturnerNM
      @StoneturnerNM 4 года назад

      @@JimboJones99 errr ya

    • @coltm4a186
      @coltm4a186 4 года назад

      Are we going to be fine? That’s my concern. I’ve heard people say that it could kill us if it does go supernova.

    • @doktorduggieducker9615
      @doktorduggieducker9615 4 года назад +1

      @@coltm4a186 no its way to far away
      gammarays wont hit us too because the axis is rotated away from us

  • @jpog96
    @jpog96 4 года назад +3

    Your voice helps with my anxiety, and the universe stuff makes me realize my problems aren't as big as they seem lol Thank you, you wonderful person

  • @Ian..
    @Ian.. 4 года назад +11

    “Help me OB1a - you’re my only hope”

  • @AnarchistPoop
    @AnarchistPoop 4 года назад +79

    Ohhh, the only dream I have left is seing that damn star explode. It would be glorious to see such a thing.

    • @literallyartemis
      @literallyartemis 4 года назад +3

      Just so long as there isn't undiscovered life nearby it that we could never detect. That would be a tragedy for sure.

    • @AnarchistPoop
      @AnarchistPoop 4 года назад +16

      @@literallyartemis Oh, yes, let's worry about hypotethicals, why not.

    • @Icybubba
      @Icybubba 4 года назад +8

      @@literallyartemis Chances of that are slim

    • @rohansatram
      @rohansatram 4 года назад +4

      @@literallyartemis betelgeuse is a variable star, so chances of life are pretty low...

    • @vNill
      @vNill 4 года назад +2

      oh same here, l also always wanted to see a plane explode, not that l want it to happen, l just want to witness it

  • @phildicks4721
    @phildicks4721 4 года назад +25

    I read a news story about this a few days ago. Afterwards I said to myself, "I can't wait to see Anton's take on this."

    • @josephjohnson3738
      @josephjohnson3738 4 года назад +1

      He just regurgitates the same crap from the original story. Expect nothing unique from him.

  • @salem9090
    @salem9090 4 года назад

    always my go to for new info- keep up the amazing work Anton :)

  • @royroy7814
    @royroy7814 3 года назад

    Anton, I like your unbiased approach. An honest seeker like yourself would benefit from studying the electric universe theory.

  • @Sharles0001
    @Sharles0001 4 года назад +69

    Oh, the supreme astrophysicist fan boy dream of a lifetime: seeing the big red ball blow up into a supernova, that would be grandiose to say the least!

    • @hazelsmith3114
      @hazelsmith3114 4 года назад

      Rick Redd huh

    • @lucalone
      @lucalone 4 года назад

      yeah, but because that star is 640 lightyears away the light must fly 640 years to be visible on earth^

    • @cameronburke8002
      @cameronburke8002 4 года назад +3

      Gravitational waves travel at the speed of light. If Beetlegeuse did explode we may see it soon.

    • @nikotakai8796
      @nikotakai8796 4 года назад +2

      @lucalone what do you want to tell us with that? Most of the people here know that and we are not talking about the actual timing of the explosion, we are talking about the time when we can see it here.
      Yes, of course it needs ~600-700 years until we see it after it happened. But what people hope is that it already exploded about that time ago so we could see it soon.
      I don't get what so many people of you want to achieve with that comment.
      It makes no sense at all to hope that it explodes "now" in the sense of right now. So what people mean with it is that we see the explosion now.

  • @philipocarroll
    @philipocarroll 4 года назад +8

    0:53 "with a powerful enough telescope the actual features [of Betelgeuse] will become visible" Anton you are the master of understatement!

    • @josephjohnson3738
      @josephjohnson3738 4 года назад +1

      He is only the master of repeating the gobbledegook from the stupid realms of modern idiotic science.

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 4 года назад +1

      @@josephjohnson3738 and you, of course, are attempting to master being one of the anti-science Luddite flat-earthers that try to pretend science doesn't work like we all know it does. You've got s long way to go, buddy.

    • @inspireprogress7243
      @inspireprogress7243 4 года назад

      joseph shalosky you know science is a build up of discoveries? Modern science is as great as science has ever been, built on by all discoveries of science ever....

  • @niallmackenzie99
    @niallmackenzie99 4 года назад

    Thanks Anton, just subscribed, thankyou for your great vids.👍

  • @mydogbrian4814
    @mydogbrian4814 4 года назад

    - Very informative. Keep us posted.

  • @jamescarter3196
    @jamescarter3196 4 года назад +22

    This is one of my favorite channels... but I would never know it's called 'What Da Math' unless it appeared onscreen. The way Anton says it, makes me think he came up with the name a long time ago and would like to change it but doesn't want to lose followers. "... and welcome to Whtdmth".

    • @danielvandam
      @danielvandam 4 года назад +1

      James Carter he’d probably actually reach a bigger audience if he changed those little things and made his videos into a more mainstream format

  • @w3vjp568
    @w3vjp568 4 года назад +7

    The burst was caused by Neil Peart as his spirit dove into Cygnus X-1. RIP, professor.

  • @thomasnuedling9167
    @thomasnuedling9167 3 года назад

    I always feel smarter after watching your videos, Anton! Thank you!

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 4 года назад

    Another great video, Anton. Many thanks for the link to the Grace Data Bank.

  • @simohayha6031
    @simohayha6031 4 года назад +52

    The Antarctic Neutrino detector should stay tuned because theoretically a neutrino wave will hit us first several hours before the light!

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 4 года назад +8

      I think the neutrinos would have reached us very close to the same time as the gravitational wave.

    • @dreammirrorbrony1240
      @dreammirrorbrony1240 4 года назад +6

      Aren't all this stuff traveling at the speed of light(gravity waves, neutrinos, and its normal light)?

    • @itsmebatman
      @itsmebatman 4 года назад +23

      @@dreammirrorbrony1240 Gravitational waves are. Neutrinos are slightly slower. But both will be here before the light, because the actual explosion starts in the core of the exploding star. And light can't get out from there quickly. In our sun it takes the photons a very long time to get through all that material. So the light of the explosion will only get out once the star is actually flying apart. By then the gravitational waves and the neutrinos already have a huge headstart of several hours at least.

    • @stonehands0249
      @stonehands0249 4 года назад +3

      @@itsmebatman Wow. Ok I just learned something new today. Checked that box. Keep the good info coming!

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 4 года назад +3

      @@stonehands0249 your day isn't wasted, then. 😁 That's my gauge of whether a day is wasted or not... if you learn something new each day, then you're not wasting those days. Keep learning... always keep learning!

  • @JohnnyAngel8
    @JohnnyAngel8 4 года назад +37

    "Some of them went out to see if was still there."
    I love that! It's just like meteorologists who might do better if they stuck their heads outside!
    (Nothing against meteorologists.)

    • @EarthCentral
      @EarthCentral 4 года назад +1

      Meteorologists deal with weather the word you want is Astronomers

    • @JohnnyAngel8
      @JohnnyAngel8 4 года назад +9

      @@EarthCentral No, I meant meteorologists. As in, if you want to know what the weather is, stick your head outside. It's a bit of sarcasm toward meteorologists, and by extension, toward astronomers who might sometimes get more information by going outside and looking up. Get the humor?

    • @EarthCentral
      @EarthCentral 4 года назад

      @@JohnnyAngel8 I see

    • @ImNotActuallyChristian
      @ImNotActuallyChristian 4 года назад +1

      @@JohnnyAngel8 Meteorologist doesn't find out what the weather is, they try to predict future weather.

    • @JohnnyAngel8
      @JohnnyAngel8 4 года назад +3

      @@ImNotActuallyChristian Meteorologists give us current conditions as well as predictions. Regardless, don't look too deeply into my post; it's an attempt at humor, not to be taken so literally.

  • @philjamieson5572
    @philjamieson5572 4 года назад

    I really like watching interesting stuff like this. Thanks for putting this on here.

  • @StormsandSaugeye
    @StormsandSaugeye 4 года назад

    This was the video that earned my subscription. Unfortunately there are so many news items that demand my attention that I missed this bit of news and research entirely.

  • @Mandrak789
    @Mandrak789 4 года назад +15

    "RETRACTED. The trigger S200116ah is no longer considered to be a
    candidate of interest. The candidate is attributed to non-stationary
    noise in the L1 detector."

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 4 года назад +4

      @Randy HUTCHINSON : Sounds like a press release from LIGO. Gravitational waves can travel faster through some circumstances than light, so they release announcements _before_ they can verify, so that astronomers can try to watch any for interesting stuff while LIGO is being double-checked.

    • @Mandrak789
      @Mandrak789 4 года назад +3

      @Randy HUTCHINSON That's what LIGO said, yes. Probably a false positive, and almost certainly nothing to do with Betelgeuse.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 4 года назад

      Bugger! Spoiled SUCH an observation :(((((((

    • @florican
      @florican 4 года назад

      @Mandrak789 Maybe this should be pinned, or at least added to the video description.

  • @vortmax1981
    @vortmax1981 4 года назад +36

    Damnit I want Betelgeuse to explode in my lifetime!! Or at least some nearby-ish star (but not too nearby) to go supernova.

    • @Maxgamer-fd7hv
      @Maxgamer-fd7hv 4 года назад +1

      The light of betelgeuse takes 630 years to reach us, it might have exploded but probably not.

    • @Maxgamer-fd7hv
      @Maxgamer-fd7hv 4 года назад

      @Jim Man Oh, I thought it was 630 light years away.

  • @cesarsilva1513
    @cesarsilva1513 3 года назад

    Thank u Anton for another great lesson in astronomy!!learned so much !!

  • @wolfk4213
    @wolfk4213 4 года назад

    Thank you for this clear analysis.

  • @oleghrozman4172
    @oleghrozman4172 4 года назад +82

    Betelgeuse: "i don't feel so good.."

    • @Nine-Signs
      @Nine-Signs 4 года назад +10

      Stop anthropomorphising inanimate objects, you will make me feel sad.

    • @ColdHawk
      @ColdHawk 4 года назад +1

      Olegh Rozman - Whose turn is it to burp the baby?

    • @not2tired
      @not2tired 4 года назад +2

      @@Nine-Signs "No." -My Keyboard

    • @donaldboughton8686
      @donaldboughton8686 4 года назад +5

      I told you I was ill. Apologies to the late great Spike Milligan. Goon but not forgotten.

    • @Rivenburg-xd5yf
      @Rivenburg-xd5yf 4 года назад +1

      shouldnt have ate that last star, burp.

  • @uK8cvPAq
    @uK8cvPAq 4 года назад +19

    Maybe it's just part of the supernova process and these gravitational burps happen before the final plunge.

    • @AntiDarekSquad
      @AntiDarekSquad 4 года назад

      @3 AM Paranormale e Horror I'm pretty sure LIGO just designated the waves to be a false positive.

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 4 года назад

      @CommieBash Ok boomer.

  • @spacedude61
    @spacedude61 4 года назад

    First I heard of this. Thanks for the heads up and the info in this vid. Nice graphics too!!

  • @kevinlong4084
    @kevinlong4084 3 года назад

    I love having very educated people who have use of very expensive equipment do a intense study of space and come up with a answer a simple man like myself would give. I DOUBT IT

  • @peterjacobsen7613
    @peterjacobsen7613 4 года назад +49

    I'm at the point where I don't want Betelgeuse to explode, it's my star and the Orion constellation will never look the same. Antares can die though.

    • @Ulvetann
      @Ulvetann 4 года назад +7

      I agree. I hate the antarians. They're soo stupid.

    • @SpicyMang0s
      @SpicyMang0s 4 года назад +4

      What do you mean “it’s your star”?

    • @peterjacobsen7613
      @peterjacobsen7613 4 года назад +8

      @@SpicyMang0s It's my star and you can't take it away from me!

    • @gammergames3322
      @gammergames3322 4 года назад +6

      @@SpicyMang0s technically in space there is no rules to claiming territory so he's right it's his

    • @markrook6085
      @markrook6085 4 года назад +7

      Antares has been dead to me for YEARS now....I’ll never forgive that bastard!!!

  • @NinjavomWolfstor
    @NinjavomWolfstor 4 года назад +7

    Haha, when I took my dog out an hour ago for a night walk, I checked if it was still there... then I cam back and found this video :D

    • @PMA65537
      @PMA65537 4 года назад +2

      Your dog told me a joke: Where do you find a star with no legs? Right where you left it.

    • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
      @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 4 года назад +1

      @@PMA65537 lmfao🤣😂

  • @TheCoomer
    @TheCoomer 4 года назад

    So glad You tube recommend this, I've subscribed

  • @daveblack6951
    @daveblack6951 4 года назад +1

    It's nice to see more people taking an interest.

  • @shihanraza
    @shihanraza 4 года назад +13

    I just bought my first telescope
    Celestron 130eq md
    Gonna be checking out betelgeuse daily

    • @Frank131985
      @Frank131985 4 года назад +2

      How much you paid for it?

    • @xander5123
      @xander5123 4 года назад +4

      It might be a highball but i think it probably cost like multiple dollars, maybe even a lot of dollars

    • @jimyoung2623
      @jimyoung2623 4 года назад +4

      Don’t you mean that you will be checking it out nightly? ;-)

    • @gunthroiddergai4844
      @gunthroiddergai4844 4 года назад +1

      Topp TV Noise I just bought a Orion dobsonian XT6 so now I have something fun to do.

    • @shihanraza
      @shihanraza 4 года назад

      @@Frank131985 £220

  • @garryiglesias4074
    @garryiglesias4074 4 года назад +110

    When you say Betelgeuse, I always hear "Beetlejuice"... (I'm french, so you might already know how we pronounce it :) ).

    • @Mogget5
      @Mogget5 4 года назад +7

      The correct pronunciation of the name is "bet-el-gerz"

    • @nataliekenny7490
      @nataliekenny7490 4 года назад +1

      Hahahaha

    • @freefall9832
      @freefall9832 4 года назад +7

      It's Beetlejuice! Now say three times haha

    • @WildPhotoShooter
      @WildPhotoShooter 4 года назад +2

      @@Mogget5 Exactly . Beatle Juice was a way to remember it as a kid , we should grow out of it as adults.

    • @filipefealves
      @filipefealves 4 года назад +1

      Me too, depending on who's saying it I can hear things like "Beetlejuice", "Beetlegoose" or even "Beetlechoose"

  • @sofiagrimes6724
    @sofiagrimes6724 3 года назад

    Love the videos, keep up the good work 😀

  • @Pt-gf9jf
    @Pt-gf9jf 4 года назад

    Eta Carinae, Antares. These are, in my opinion, the stars that you should be concerned about. Betelgeuse. A gorgeous show in the sky. And really, really look forward to seeing it!

  • @smdnsnnd7254
    @smdnsnnd7254 4 года назад +153

    If light is the speed limit ... how can we detect it exploding without seeing first?

    • @mckennaConfig
      @mckennaConfig 4 года назад +22

      Maybe the star rapidly dims while collapsing into supernova and only gets bright as it's ejecting matter?

    • @dylanhinegardner6778
      @dylanhinegardner6778 4 года назад +3

      Cody Volpe I thought they traveled at the speed of light.

    • @Zyvold
      @Zyvold 4 года назад +67

      Because light will sometimes be obstructed by some matter in space, for example by a gas, while gravitational waves will not.

    • @bradleyp3655
      @bradleyp3655 4 года назад +38

      Causality is the speed limit not light. They both go hand in hand. E=MC^2. C=Causality not light.

    • @florin604
      @florin604 4 года назад +24

      The universe is not empty... Light always takes longer than gravity waves... We will find tomorrow what happened

  • @rodgersericv
    @rodgersericv 4 года назад +136

    So Betelgeuse is in between the two regions where the gravitational waves may have come from. Nothing to see here, folks.

    • @shawnadee7744
      @shawnadee7744 4 года назад +12

      Lol, also basing it on the fact they know everything correctly and have not miscalculated any of it like they so often do.

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 4 года назад +16

      @texxtrek speed of light. nothings faster

    • @CaptainAhorn
      @CaptainAhorn 4 года назад +8

      Scorch428 Entanglement is faster.

    • @Lesminster
      @Lesminster 4 года назад +15

      @@CaptainAhorn Speed is irrelevant for entanglement ;) I think even saying that entanglement happens with infinite speed is not necessarily right bcs it happens instantaneously.

    • @bencoad8492
      @bencoad8492 4 года назад +6

      gravity waves are faster then light, they have to be apparently :/

  • @holysaintknight343
    @holysaintknight343 4 года назад

    Well put analysis of this event.

  • @dmeemd7787
    @dmeemd7787 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for another great video! You do a great job of releasing fact-checked videos very quickly, this channel has really grown on me as a news and learning platform

  • @colincampbell767
    @colincampbell767 4 года назад +80

    "I sense a disturbance in the Force . . ."

    • @miaokuancha2447
      @miaokuancha2447 4 года назад +3

      From Obi-wan A ...

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 4 года назад +3

      Just makes me wonder how weird it would be to feel gravitational waves

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 4 года назад +9

      As if millions of supernovae enthusiasts screamed up with excitement and were suddenly silenced.

    • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
      @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 4 года назад +1

      @@miaokuancha2447 5:00

    • @jdlech
      @jdlech 4 года назад +3

      That's just the ice cream and cabbage I had last night.

  • @astraeanova4280
    @astraeanova4280 4 года назад +10

    I'd be very happy if Betelgeuse hung around for a long time since it's a part of the
    Orion nebula which was the first group of stars I was shown by my father so the
    longer it stays around the happier I'll be.

    • @WildPhotoShooter
      @WildPhotoShooter 4 года назад +5

      But won't it be a fine sight to see something on Orions shoulder as rare as a super nova in our lifetime?

    • @_rlb
      @_rlb 4 года назад +1

      It's not part of the nebula though :)

    • @maddog7795
      @maddog7795 4 года назад

      It's not in the orion nebula

    • @flatearth.sofakingrighthar9742
      @flatearth.sofakingrighthar9742 4 года назад

      @@_rlb That true , Betelgeuse is 642 light years away and the nebula is 1,344 light years away.

    • @flatearth.sofakingrighthar9742
      @flatearth.sofakingrighthar9742 4 года назад +1

      Astaea Star.
      Don't you mean it is part of the Orion constellation, not part of the nebula ? ( at least it is from our view point in space)
      The nebula is actually over twice as far away as Betelgeuse. 642 L/yrs 1344 L/yrs

  • @Justin-ut4qk
    @Justin-ut4qk 2 года назад

    Great video, love the updates

  • @romado59
    @romado59 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for admitting that LIGO can have terrestrial sources.

  • @orion5992
    @orion5992 4 года назад +37

    You're MEAN! I, and MANY OTHERS were really hoping to see this puppy BLOW!
    Anyhow, the Gravitational wave was probably made from a star ship "warping" out of our solar system.

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 4 года назад

      Or in. I wonder if anyone's done the math in what that would look like.

    • @jerryli821
      @jerryli821 4 года назад

      @@jetison333 warp drive? I don't think there's any math for that.

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 4 года назад +1

      @@jerryli821 yeah there is, look up the alcubeirre drive. It's pretty much a warp drive but it works in real life.

    • @jerryli821
      @jerryli821 4 года назад

      @@jetison333 can we warp space time?

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 4 года назад +3

      @@jerryli821 yeah, we are both doing it as we walk around :) but no, as far as I know I dont think we've done any experiments with it, but there is math out there on how to make one.

  • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
    @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 4 года назад +12

    5:00 OB1 kenobi.

  • @johnyu1901
    @johnyu1901 4 года назад

    Thank you Anton for the update. I agree with David’s comment about Betelgeuse colliding with a dense (possibly a Jupiter sized) object. I also believe the discrepancy between the position of the gravitational blips and Betelgeuse is due to its movement like a noisy jet flying by -fast and far from the observer. I think the first g-wave detected (the larger of the 2) was a collision with a dense object and the second was the actual supernova. It probably was NOT a coincidence that there was a dimming prior to this event. Just remember the line from the TV show Law and Order : “coincidence times coincidence times coincidence means you’re guilty! Way too many coincidences. Again thanks for the update Anton.

  • @rarebird_82
    @rarebird_82 3 года назад

    I prefer this lively, enthusiastic, confident version of Anton, as opposed to the current version that sounds like a scared hostage trying to lull kittens to sleep at gunpoint.

  • @crux9584
    @crux9584 4 года назад +218

    I looked today and it ain’t so bright as it usually is.

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 4 года назад +63

      you're looking at 600 year old light

    • @drspeedy9588
      @drspeedy9588 4 года назад +29

      It has been dimming for a while already

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 4 года назад +97

      @@carlosandleon All light from Betelgeuse is 600 years old and when we see it explode, it will have exploded 600 years ago
      Repeating this over and over anally just confuses people who don't understand and adds nothing

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 4 года назад +5

      @rockn roll look I know gravitational waves go at the speed of C. But light csn also be slightly more delayed than ut

    • @nighteye4042
      @nighteye4042 4 года назад +36

      @@carlosandleon ok, and we are sensing 600 year old gravitational waves. Your point adds nothing to the discussion

  • @claredegroff1491
    @claredegroff1491 4 года назад +5

    There is alot of ifs, theories, nights, assumptions, actually its almost all assumptions including that it was thrown out of that peculiar system.

  • @richmarsh5029
    @richmarsh5029 4 года назад

    Great video thanks mate. Subscribed

  • @emperor002002
    @emperor002002 3 года назад

    11:37 PM EST what a pleasant surprise.

  • @crying_hippy
    @crying_hippy 4 года назад +15

    Huge bright meteor went over Toronto around an hour ago. I saw it light up the ground then I looked up, it was as bright as the sun!
    God Bless

  • @deloachapproach4273
    @deloachapproach4273 4 года назад +3

    Anton must know me well, for he always begins by saying, "Hello, wonderful person."

    • @cookiecola5852
      @cookiecola5852 3 года назад

      Well i think he was actually talking to me, so your out!

  • @thesickening0169
    @thesickening0169 4 года назад

    Excellent video, thank you bud. Subbed

  • @buddyrupp6235
    @buddyrupp6235 4 года назад

    Very informative! Bravo.

  • @nertz4579
    @nertz4579 4 года назад +42

    02:36 "Ligo is so sensitive it can detect disturbances around earth"
    Shoot I knew I shouldn't have eaten them beans 🥴

  • @MrRedeyedJedi
    @MrRedeyedJedi 4 года назад +8

    "Eeugh, augh"- beatle juice 2020

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 4 года назад +1

    I have a theory of what sparks a supernova. Three things control stellar fusion. Heat, pressure and magnetism. Supergiants start producing iron which migrates out and generates it’s own magnetic field. This interferes with the stars main magnetic field undermining it and causing the star to become dangerously unstable.

  • @HeatherRenea
    @HeatherRenea 4 года назад

    Subscribed, nice channel very informative

  • @J5X7
    @J5X7 4 года назад +16

    So are we gonna see Orion's tackle when his belt explodes?

    • @dunneincrewgear
      @dunneincrewgear 4 года назад +2

      JamesXT77
      Pay attention! It's his arm, not his belt...

    • @cherryb893
      @cherryb893 4 года назад +1

      Betelgeuse is Orion's shoulder (or arm, depending on who you ask).

  • @ExaltedDuck
    @ExaltedDuck 4 года назад +26

    Somebody must have said its name three times.

  • @jhamilton07
    @jhamilton07 4 года назад

    I've been keeping my kids interested in the night sky and we are very familiar with Betelgeuse. I'd heard a lot lately about it's record low luminosity and last night we finally had a nice clear night. I couldn't even see it. I'm not kidding. The normal spot where we usually see a very noticeable, bright star wasn't even visible to me on a clear cold night. Very interesting.

  • @dgerdi
    @dgerdi 4 года назад

    I saw a flickering Star in Orion a few days ago. First I thought it was a plane or something. But it didn’t move. Betelgeuse was my first thought. Very interesting. I hope this is a sign for the last days.

  • @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube
    @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube 4 года назад +7

    gravity takes a long time to have information to travel across the star. Even tho light could take hundreds of thousands of years to traverse from the core, the 30 mins it takes a shift in mass to communicate new gravitational vectors is still huge gap of time to result in phenomina.

    • @dr.paulwilliam7447
      @dr.paulwilliam7447 4 года назад +1

      na, the wave would not only come from core collapse, but also from a "normal" core shrink due to changes in elements being fused. that is because of the mass moved so quickly!

    • @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube
      @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube 4 года назад

      "na" seemed like you were disagreeing about something. I wasnt focused on fusion, but what i think you are saying is an exciting part of the rate of change going on.
      Also were you saying that core fusion has a negative pressure on its surroundings? At these distances larger than the orbit of our Earth, I agree about the abrupt shifts, and how that compounds force coming back in on the core. The thing we have a hard time with is auditing the density waves. Maybe study of gravity waves can help.

    • @WPIManiacMagic
      @WPIManiacMagic 4 года назад +1

      Could be the two cores finally colliding

    • @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube
      @FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube 4 года назад

      @@WPIManiacMagic if you Were Somehow able to go into the center of the earth you would be weightless. So it is possible for masses to be sheared off and somehow isolated and able to build into multiple dense structures. The best thing we can do right now is to model all our guesses which I for one would love to see a gathering of those different ideas and Concepts but unfortunately there's way too much negative criticism inside and outside the scientific community for people that feel comfortable presenting intelligent list of possibilities.

    • @WPIManiacMagic
      @WPIManiacMagic 4 года назад

      @@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube most of the star's size isn't very dense at all. Also the star was noted to have a giant bulge ... Wonder if this could be due to that smaller core too.
      Either way to me it seems possible if the smaller star was circling the drain for a long time once it skims the big core and rapidly slows to full collision a lot would happen and fast

  • @TheRozidan
    @TheRozidan 4 года назад +32

    It doesn’t mean “the arm of Orion “ in Arabic, but it means “ the archer’s bag” where he keeps the arrows on his back . And indeed the name is originally Arabic

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 4 года назад +4

      Thank you that's very interesting!

    • @Melthornal
      @Melthornal 4 года назад +2

      N Marbletoe you stole my icon

    • @CreidDesmodus
      @CreidDesmodus 4 года назад +1

      i thought betelgeuse is a rough translation of "the hand (or shoulder?) of orion (or the giant?)"

    • @TWOCOWS1
      @TWOCOWS1 4 года назад +4

      Not so. There are two distinct names given to the star by the Islamic astronomers: ibt al-jawza (the armpit of the hunter), or yadd al-jawza (the arm of the hunter). Jawza is the hunter NOT the archer (archer would be "ramee"), and neither ibt or yadd in classical Arabic stand for quiver. The name Jawza, "hunter" originally actually meant a scavenger!!

    • @TheRozidan
      @TheRozidan 4 года назад

      clarence spencer
      It’s also called “makab eljawza” by some Arabs
      مكب الجوزاء
      Translated to : the hunter’s bag of weapons.
      The hunter here is an archer

  • @johnbremner4154
    @johnbremner4154 3 года назад

    Great analysis!

  • @adamnixon2886
    @adamnixon2886 3 года назад +1

    Was listening to music and somehow I suddenly hear
    "Hello wonderful person!" From my phone ❤️