I like how Greg said they were hanging out after Paradise even though Victoria just denied that before he came out. Maybe they should have gotten their stories straight 😂
He said they were kindled their relationship weeks after bachelor in paradise. She cheated on Johnny. Greg gave them away. He's a cheat and she's a cheat. She has shown herself on bachelor in Paradise and on The bachelor. Victoria and Johnny deserve each other.
There's something just really offputting about Victoria's behavior. She is clearly super narcissistic and into herself and can't take when someone calls her out. The ego, lack of accountability, and constant blame-shifting is a gross look. Give her 6 months max with Greg before they break up; any relationship with Victoria is going to self-destruct due to her narcissism
@@julievictoria7941 Victoria has a documented history of emotional cheating as well as homewrecking 4 other people’s marriages. She clearly has no respect for other people’s boundaries as long as she gets what she wants. Based on this alone, 6 months is probably even too long of a guess; it’s probably going to be shorter.
Tyler's eyes were literally throwing daggers at Victoria and Gregg 🤣 I would have looked the same if my friend had to go through what Johny went through honestly
Everyone hated on Katie after she confronted Greg on AFTR, but I always knew he wasn't innocent. Katie was right about him the whole time. SHE dodged the bullet, not the other way around!
If the roles were reversed and Johnny was the one who did this to Victoria, NOBODY would be on his side. There would be complete outrage towards Johnny and he would probably be cancelled by Bachelor Nation.... I am so shocked to see that there are people who are actually on Victoria's side defending her and think Johnny is to blame for this. But because Victoria is a very attractive girl she has stans and people who think her moving on with Greg is empowering and a "female boss move".
Me having to fight for Katie in the comments during her season about Greg and now seeing everyone realizing how wrong they were is kinda satisfying to me ngl 😂
I think this was the most united group that stepped out of Paradise. I truly hope that the bond between grows stronger each day. It's so nice to see the support and love for one another. I was really hoping to see a different Victoria. I was rooting for them, but God knows that Johnny deserves better.
Greg said “weeks after paradise” they rekindled. That is too fast if you were really in love with Johnny. 1:55 Poor Johnny didn’t want to get engaged but got pushed and played. This will damaged him further unless he gets good support.
So basically deflect and try to make Johnny look bad. I love how she denied talking to him while they were working through issues, but Greg said “we started to rekindle things a few weeks after paradise”. Youre free to choose who you want to be with, if it’s another guy go for it, do it with dignity, but don’t try to make a fool out of Johnny. For that, She belongs to the streets.
That’s the same behavior that Katie did to Blake when she was with John and Brendan did to Natasha last season on paradise when he ended up with Pieper.
I think she did that due to the audience’s reaction to her and Greg I think Greg is better for her Johnny said all throughout the show he didn’t want to propose she probably watched the show back
And Victoria was complaining about Johnnys age? And being younger than her? What happened to BIP Victoria? Victoria just acted like a 18 years old girl who got a tattoo for the heck of it.. and Greg, you ain’t mature either. Honestly they haven’t reached the age of maturity. LOL.
The 2 of them seem so immature and childish. The same way Victoria treated Johnny will be the same way she will be treated eventually. It's just a matter of time.
You got it. I am sad that it didn't work between them,on the other hand Johny deserves better, thanks God it didn't go much farther. And Victoria deserves what she is asking for.
She's not sad by it and it was never a fear. Narcissistic behavior does something like this, no matter what you say as far as emotional analogies or extreme matters of love, they have to either one up you or admit to the same emotions and thoughts on a particular subject. They can't allow you to think that you love them more in words. But they won't do that same thing when it comes to the action of those words. Or the very expressive feelings they have toward you when something doesn't go their way.
Well…obviously I haven’t heard J andV’s break up conversations, but I feel very, very, very sorry for Johnny…but they SEEMED to perfectly understand each other before BIP was over.what in the world REALLY happened. Johnny handled his situation perfectly. So sad.I don’t agree with Tyler’s advice either.
And you all gave Katie SO MUCH crap because of how she treated Greg at ATFR and it seems maybe she wasn't so wrong on that front after all. He's clearly lying through his teeth alongside his new girlfriend.
no one complaining about the fact that they're together, it's the interaction with greg after paradise, were they just chit chatting, and why? a friendship, i doubt it, what was the purpose? however, if she was broken up with johnny, then sure date and talk to whomever you want to
Why not admit it, you are not interested to continue your relationship with Johnny and clear the way for you and Greg? Remember what comes around goes around🙃 I admit youse two look good together. Good luck with what ahead🙂
I really liked greg after katies season…but good god was I wrong. Also…I have no words for Victoria, she constantly blame someone else for things she did wrong. Bachelor producers should really take a closer look who they cast…I dont like the fact people like her get this hugh platform…I hope karma comes back to them…sooner than later!
People are multifaceted and multidimensional. Nobody is just one thing, WE ALL have many different sides to us, so more pleasant than others. I’m sure there’s someone out that that that doesn’t like certain sides of you.
I've been saying that too! Everyone was all like, "Katie had the best guys on her season and she blew it", now look at Michael and Greg. They were both seen as "good guys" and have since exposed their true colors as players after her season. Idc what anyone says, Katie dodged a bullet with both of them.
were they keeping in touch and communicating while she was engaged to johnny? that's a problem, because there's an emotional attachment, and when things weren't going so well with johnny who did she confide in, greg?
@@dt9538 he dates multiple women at a time while working as a bartender back home. Kept promising he’d fly her out to meet his grandparents and never followed through. He just strung her along. She noticed things Victoria pointed out were pretty accurate.
I love they are like that, like yeah we know theres a lot of trolls out there hating on us but we dont give a f@%$$k jaja..... cause hell yeah! at the end of the day all the people hating on them dont really know how things are, everyone hating is just assuming and believing what they want about 3 people they dont know! So good for them!! Love it!!
lol 😂 all of the comments about Greg & Katie are hilarious. I hated how Greg handled Katie’s season - he was immature and emotionally abusive - but Katie was wrong for acting like that in AFTR. Victoria cheating on Johnny with Greg doesn’t absolve Katie’s crappy behaviour 😂 I love how everyone acts like Greg acting this crappy somehow makes Katie a saint 🤦🏻♀️ they were both wrong and victoria is wrong for this
I like how Greg said they were hanging out after Paradise even though Victoria just denied that before he came out. Maybe they should have gotten their stories straight 😂
Weeks later, or do you not listen?! Victoria and Johnny were only together for like a month after paradise.
Yep weeks after paradise, when she was suppose to be an engage woman
He said they were kindled their relationship weeks after bachelor in paradise. She cheated on Johnny. Greg gave them away. He's a cheat and she's a cheat. She has shown herself on bachelor in Paradise and on The bachelor. Victoria and Johnny deserve each other.
@@deniseurbanczyk7980 Victori and Johnny or Victoria and Greg deserve each other? Sorry, honest question, that whole thing sounds like a mess...
They also were talking before paradise lol
I wonder if Gregg dumped his French model girlfriend for Victoria cause ughh
Victoria has always given me high school mean girl vibes
Same
Why? Because she smart and beautiful?
@@akpenguin1859no, it’s because she’s mean lol
@@Rose-oh4mc how so?
@@Rose-oh4mc can you give an example?
There's something just really offputting about Victoria's behavior. She is clearly super narcissistic and into herself and can't take when someone calls her out. The ego, lack of accountability, and constant blame-shifting is a gross look. Give her 6 months max with Greg before they break up; any relationship with Victoria is going to self-destruct due to her narcissism
She just love to be on tv . She gets a platform .
After watching this, I don’t want her back on tv again that’s for sure.
They are both narcissists tho. It will probably work out between them
@@julievictoria7941 Victoria has a documented history of emotional cheating as well as homewrecking 4 other people’s marriages. She clearly has no respect for other people’s boundaries as long as she gets what she wants. Based on this alone, 6 months is probably even too long of a guess; it’s probably going to be shorter.
Thank Goodness she’s no longer with Johnny. She’s not good enough for him! She’s something you throw out with the trash!
Tyler's eyes were literally throwing daggers at Victoria and Gregg 🤣 I would have looked the same if my friend had to go through what Johny went through honestly
I just love Justin’s face throughout this segment. ❤
He knows how to play it for the cameras🤣I always know when he's gonna make one of his expressions
Those bulging eyes got to go!
Everyone hated on Katie after she confronted Greg on AFTR, but I always knew he wasn't innocent. Katie was right about him the whole time. SHE dodged the bullet, not the other way around!
I think so too
I was just going to say that too because I felt this was the only instance where Katie was spot on.
I agree with you completely
@@bkopgamer for me I felt Katie handled the situation poorly, but I felt her points and anger were valid, that's why I still supported her
SAME!!!
If the roles were reversed and Johnny was the one who did this to Victoria, NOBODY would be on his side. There would be complete outrage towards Johnny and he would probably be cancelled by Bachelor Nation.... I am so shocked to see that there are people who are actually on Victoria's side defending her and think Johnny is to blame for this. But because Victoria is a very attractive girl she has stans and people who think her moving on with Greg is empowering and a "female boss move".
Yeah his name is Ari and he is doing just fine
Exactly!!
Wow, I get soooo much ick from these two. Tyler you gotta tell us what you know
Not just Tyler but Logan also knows stuff too
Both Johnny and Tyler deserve someone better
Match made in heaven. They both look so immature and insensitive
Truly
more like hell
Narcissists do not enter or stay in relationships for love. They are there simply to have specific needs met.
Greg is her next victim lmao
Spot on! 👍
Me having to fight for Katie in the comments during her season about Greg and now seeing everyone realizing how wrong they were is kinda satisfying to me ngl 😂
I think this was the most united group that stepped out of Paradise. I truly hope that the bond between grows stronger each day. It's so nice to see the support and love for one another.
I was really hoping to see a different Victoria. I was rooting for them, but God knows that Johnny deserves better.
Greg said it. They “rekindled” their relationship. What a waste of Johnny’s time and effort in Paradise and afterwards.
Katie was right about Greg all along.
You can feel second hand embarassment through the screen
Greg said “weeks after paradise” they rekindled. That is too fast if you were really in love with Johnny. 1:55
Poor Johnny didn’t want to get engaged but got pushed and played. This will damaged him further unless he gets good support.
Even Romeo was ashamed of Victoria's actions🙉🤣
and that is saying something!
Victoria is pretty manipulative. She probably used Johnny to get Greg out of the friend zone.
Wth that was an insult having him Greg on this show you just smacked johnny in the heart dig the pain deeper so sad...just meet the real Victoria .
So basically deflect and try to make Johnny look bad. I love how she denied talking to him while they were working through issues, but Greg said “we started to rekindle things a few weeks after paradise”. Youre free to choose who you want to be with, if it’s another guy go for it, do it with dignity, but don’t try to make a fool out of Johnny. For that, She belongs to the streets.
Agreed with you 💯
That’s the same behavior that Katie did to Blake when she was with John and Brendan did to Natasha last season on paradise when he ended up with Pieper.
Victoria has not changed since Peter's Season
I'm with Tyler.......the look of disgust on my face.
Is this her 25th boyfriend in 2 years or what?? It’s all gonna end up in tears..
I can respect the fact she said she didn’t give a F and stood up for her dude.
I think she did that due to the audience’s reaction to her and Greg I think Greg is better for her Johnny said all throughout the show he didn’t want to propose she probably watched the show back
Greg is the Kmart brand of Ryan Gosling and Victoria is a wannabe Kardashian lol
She never thought how she hurt Johnny . That is so messed up
And Victoria was complaining about Johnnys age? And being younger than her? What happened to BIP Victoria? Victoria just acted like a 18 years old girl who got a tattoo for the heck of it.. and Greg, you ain’t mature either. Honestly they haven’t reached the age of maturity. LOL.
This girl victoria didn't realise she was contradicting herself from ealier the interview😂😂
It’s the brazen attitude for me 😅😅
This was my favorite couple. I think she totally looks dumb and the audience agrees. Johnny was a good guy! They were adorable
The 2 of them seem so immature and childish. The same way Victoria treated Johnny will be the same way she will be treated eventually. It's just a matter of time.
You got it. I am sad that it didn't work between them,on the other hand Johny deserves better, thanks God it didn't go much farther.
And Victoria deserves what she is asking for.
@@suzyfabry9911 So True..Exactly
They deserve each other lol
100 percent.I just love everyone's expressions.I can't wait to see the memes.
I dont know about yall but this was the entertainment I needed ahahahahh
Narcissistic Victoria FULLER OF HERSELF!!! She’s just awful. Greg RUNNNN . So disrespectful. What was her reason for dumping Johnny???
Karma waits for you Victoria....laughing now but will see how this story ends in a few months.....
And it is offically over with them 😂
@@aylinseratvas if that’s a big deal? Y’all are so pathetic
Victoria and Johnny fulfilled each other’s greatest fears…they deserted and left each other, the very fear each one stated they had. So very sad!…
Victoria was the one that dipped out. She validated that by the way she handled everything on the reunion 😂
You mean Victoria who cheated
@@Blueeyesinthesky Victoria whole heartedly cheated !
She's not sad by it and it was never a fear. Narcissistic behavior does something like this, no matter what you say as far as emotional analogies or extreme matters of love, they have to either one up you or admit to the same emotions and thoughts on a particular subject. They can't allow you to think that you love them more in words. But they won't do that same thing when it comes to the action of those words. Or the very expressive feelings they have toward you when something doesn't go their way.
Also Victoria seems smitten with Greg
Yeap. She loves to be smitten with everyone. She was smitten with Johnny and then Alex for a few.
Well…obviously I haven’t heard J andV’s break up conversations, but I feel very, very, very sorry for Johnny…but they SEEMED to perfectly understand each other before BIP was over.what in the world REALLY happened. Johnny handled his situation perfectly. So sad.I don’t agree with Tyler’s advice either.
Tyler is just projecting his anger from being broken up with by his gal by FaceTime in another country, so he needs to vent. 😅
And you all gave Katie SO MUCH crap because of how she treated Greg at ATFR and it seems maybe she wasn't so wrong on that front after all.
He's clearly lying through his teeth alongside his new girlfriend.
I gave her the benefit of the doubt from Peter's season. Now, I see ahe wants money more than love.
"i get it, it's not the best look in the world"? what does that mean, unsure why they waited for after paradise, after being engaged to pursue her
Johnny got vulnerable and he got played by Victoria LOL She aint wife material 🤣
that guy who made the face is hilarious
3:16Justin's face lol
king of facial expressions🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I couldn't stop laughing. Lol
Perfect pairing. Both are toxic n right for each other
Johnny deserves better, but she slayed that outfit
😂😂😂
So happy Johnny did not get struck with her!!! Really.....!!!!!! Now her victim is Gregg.
Why does this feel like Maury
Lol dudes in for a bumpy ride 🤣🤣
Idec about the drama, can someone do a hair tutorial, this is gorgeous
Omg yes!!!
I don't understand why men go for her at all. She's NOT beautiful on the outside. She's NOT beautiful on the inside.
I second you on this✌...
Because if you’re a hot guy or girl people always fall for that above anything else.. people aren’t open to different people just the same old ones!!
Is that ally from ask nick behind them?
Yes it is, she said she was at the reunion
no one complaining about the fact that they're together, it's the interaction with greg after paradise, were they just chit chatting, and why? a friendship, i doubt it, what was the purpose? however, if she was broken up with johnny, then sure date and talk to whomever you want to
Why not admit it, you are not interested to continue your relationship with Johnny and clear the way for you and Greg?
Remember what comes around goes around🙃 I admit youse two look good together. Good luck with what ahead🙂
Because she would be wrong
I really liked greg after katies season…but good god was I wrong.
Also…I have no words for Victoria, she constantly blame someone else for things she did wrong. Bachelor producers should really take a closer look who they cast…I dont like the fact people like her get this hugh platform…I hope karma comes back to them…sooner than later!
And…. She’s on Zach’s season 🤢🤢
I never was a fan of Greg.. and he continues to prove why I wasn’t a fan of him.. or her..
Did a full 180, crazy.
i don't think this relationship will last, when you jump out of one relationship and immediately to another, not a good sign
People are multifaceted and multidimensional. Nobody is just one thing, WE ALL have many different sides to us, so more pleasant than others. I’m sure there’s someone out that that that doesn’t like certain sides of you.
Who is here after they offically broke up? 😂
When Greg came in: that was so awkward
Well that was 3 mins I’ll never get back lol
Cringey
Me being on team Katie on AFTR knowing that Greg wasn’t this insecure and shy guy. Now look at him, cocky and confident JUST like Katie said 😅
I've been saying that too! Everyone was all like, "Katie had the best guys on her season and she blew it", now look at Michael and Greg. They were both seen as "good guys" and have since exposed their true colors as players after her season. Idc what anyone says, Katie dodged a bullet with both of them.
Rodney and Johnny for bachelor!!! 😭😭😭
Very very very very disrespectful.
But let’s all agree they are super hot together and we’re here for it
Nauseating.
Greg Grippo is hot af, esp with his new hair
Greg you need to run. She is definitely not a wifey material.
@Lan tran He's not husband material either so they're a match made in heaven
I really don’t like Victorias character.
were they keeping in touch and communicating while she was engaged to johnny? that's a problem, because there's an emotional attachment, and when things weren't going so well with johnny who did she confide in, greg?
Randomly watching this a year later and all I can say is I don’t feel so bad for Johnny anymore after my cousin’s experience dating him.
What happened
@@dt9538 he dates multiple women at a time while working as a bartender back home. Kept promising he’d fly her out to meet his grandparents and never followed through. He just strung her along. She noticed things Victoria pointed out were pretty accurate.
@@mkwilhelm220 not sure what you mean by “Cap” but i don’t have a reason to lie? It’s not like im claiming to have dated him.
I love they are like that, like yeah we know theres a lot of trolls out there hating on us but we dont give a f@%$$k jaja..... cause hell yeah! at the end of the day all the people hating on them dont really know how things are, everyone hating is just assuming and believing what they want about 3 people they dont know! So good for them!! Love it!!
What Victoria day to Johnny was totally uncalled for😢 She is a liar and a manipulator.
They cute thoooo Gemini and Libra match ahahah. But Greg you sold yourself out...weeks after paradise ahahahha
What does Greg do for work? A drink ina Rome?
@@tk567 was thinking the same
Victoria is a shocking surprise.
GREG AND JOHNNY LOOK LIKE TWINS ANYWAYS!!! SHE DEFINITELY HAS THAT TYPE: BAD BOYS LOL😂😂😂😂😂
omg I hope he's ready for her to drop him the same way. She just admitted to cheating on the last guy. And she's stuck tf up.
Greg is definitely handsome, but has he overcome his emotional insecurities, baggage?
Look at Justin’s face 😂😂
did anyone else see previews of her in the new bachelor? I thought I saw a glimpse. So let me guess things dont work out with greg grippo??
She’s just judging a contest.
I skipped this season but I wonder how the backlash against these two compared to Piper & Brendan. Was it as intense?
“El niño is Spanish for…the niño.”
This is how I would be with my amateur acting skills: @ 2:42 and 2:50 plus @3:00
Match made in hell
Lady u jst engaged in paradise not long enough now ur talking about ur relationship the one u chreat.
I do not think they will last.
lol 😂 all of the comments about Greg & Katie are hilarious. I hated how Greg handled Katie’s season - he was immature and emotionally abusive - but Katie was wrong for acting like that in AFTR. Victoria cheating on Johnny with Greg doesn’t absolve Katie’s crappy behaviour 😂 I love how everyone acts like Greg acting this crappy somehow makes Katie a saint 🤦🏻♀️ they were both wrong and victoria is wrong for this
no one ever said katie's behavior was okay, we're just saying she was right about him.
Come back to reality
I think Greg deserved Katie’s behavior tbh I don’t care
She's just using everybody!
she def gotta type
Love is not dead 🥹😍😍🥰🥰
Did he jus said ciao meant pie? 😂bruh
He said hi not pie you just misheard him
She talks like shes some celebrity...wth...she aint even D - list
Abc is so messy now
haven’t liked her since she bullied alayah
Why couldn't she have the drink in Nashville.
People would see them & it would ruin the ending of the show
@@Varaidzo1then why couldn’t they just wait a few more weeks til the finale of bip aired?
Lol Romeo’s face says it all. Victoria and shy Gregg are so cringy
Welp this didn’t age well.