1987 America's Cup - Race 1
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The 37th America's Cup will be Defended in Barcelona by four-time America's Cup winner, the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron represented by their team, Emirates Team New Zealand.
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I remember watching this in 87 at 26 years old.
I remember watching this live on the new ESPN network with Jim Kelly and Gary Jobson; a couple of observations that gave Stars and Stripes an advantage this day - 1) note the steering wheel input by both Connor vs. Murray - Dennis barely moves the wheel upwind, while Murray had almost constant steering input which equals more drag. Also, most of the crew on Stars and Stripes are low in the cockpit, heads down, while the Australians are all sitting up normally, looking around, increasing wind drag. These little things make a big difference in light and flukey conditions.
The Gunsmoke Blue Twelve
Listen, Ian Murray knows how to drive a boat. Gary Jobson - barely. Steering wheel input is not as simple as all that - Kookaburra may have had a much smaller rudder, and her balance point could have been a lot different, requiring more rudder input. She may have been designed that way, in other words. And in light and flukey conditions, that's where crew wind drag is almost a complete non-factor.
@@dap777754 100 percent false - have you ever consistently raced in 3-5 knots of wind? Jobson wasn't even
on the boat.
@@NigelTufnel612 Correct - Jobson is the guy you listened to on ESPN, making those comments about steering wheel input and windage. You cited him by name. No one wanted him on the racecourse except Ted Turner. I think Jobson is an idiot. As for racing in light wind, if you are racing a J24 or a Lightning or a Thistle, something light in other words, yeah perhaps, perhaps a small advantage to laying low. (you don't see dinghy sailors "laying low", do you?) On a big, heavy Twelve I have serious doubts it makes any difference whatsoever. Also, they were not racing in 3-5 knots wind. Finally, I gather you are an expert on 12 Meter design, perhaps a naval architect? If you are, say so. Otherwise, I stand by my comment on steering input. 100 %.
@@dap777754 that is not what you said/implied - he did drive the boar; btw I watched the Australian coverage at the time.
These days you get to see multiple lead changes exciting speeds. Today there are actual audiences for sailboat races both America’s Cup and GP52. While watching THIS video, I painted a bedroom and didn’t miss a beat. Even the kookaburra crew was seen passing a flask around during the 6th leg! 🥃
HA! Yes, its Old School but I learned to sail like this
Love to see the 12 meters. It'd be great if they posted the challenger series of Stars and Stripes vs Kiwi Magic. Those two boats were more closely matched than Stars and Stripes vs Kookaburra III and had much more exciting races.
Thank you so much for this footage. Fantastic stuff. Take it back!
Wow, so this is the RAW feed?! I see where at what would have been a commercial break, we just dropped to audio/visual from the course, but no commentary feed. I remember sitting up in the middle of the night watching this on ESPN as a kid.
This stuff is priceless.
I had Gary Jobson with ESPN on vhs tapes and never knew Buddy Melges was there announcing frim Kookaburros' support boat. Great to see again, it was good times.
It was great. And we were there. Todays AC is equally great. And we plan to be there !
Fascinating to see the pinnacle of sailing technology and skill in 1987
Thanks for sharing! Great!
Loved the video guys! Keep it real 💯 👌 it's always entertaining and ALWAYS well-done
Wow what a treat. Thanks!
Wow. This right here was my childhood. Do you have footage of the series leading up to the Cup?
me too!
when america's cup was still about sailing and not about flying battery powered sea planes
Back when commentary was priceless.
I'm so happy the resolution has improved over the years. Geez this is almost painful to watch today. 😅
I taped this back in 1987. It was clear as day, then. What you are seeing is media degradation over the years.
Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.
PS: please upload 1992, 1995 and 2000!
Thanks!
Any of the Louis Vuitton Cup finals (in particular race 3) available for upload? Would love to see that tacking duel between New Zealand and Stars and Stripes.
With the Australian broadcast preferably as it had genuine onboard audio from S&S
The glory days - back when it was an actual match - and the race lasted long enough to actually get into! Blink and you miss the races today.
Quite the opposite. These days you get to see multiple lead changes exciting speeds. Today there are actual audiences for sailboat races both America’s Cup and GP52. While watching THIS video, I painted a bedroom and didn’t miss a beat. Even the kookaburra crew was seen passing a flask around during the 6th leg! 🥃
Actual sailboats IN the water being handled by actual crew and not flying OVER the water and being crewed by computers. I appreciate the technology but it's like watching aircraft and not boats.
@rcpmac this 1987 cup was the most entered in the history of the cup and ever since. There was also a sufficient television audience that there were full 4-5 hour broadcasts every race day on free to air television around the world. Now they’re lucky to scrape together 3-4 teams including the defender, and the tv broadcast is only really in the realm of pay tv with some RUclips live in certain countries where they couldn’t sell the rights. Hoping the NYYC wins the cup next time as they have promised to put the boats back in the water if they do.
Montgomery,never sailed himself, knows zilch, thank god he is no longer is around
I loved how his (Aussie, Kiwi?) accent went into hyper-drive whenever he got in front of a TV camera or on the mike.
Please up load 2007
Awesome
So much better than the rubbish now
You clearly aren't a sailor.
Where's the 1995 america's cup
Connor wanted the pin at the start knowing the wind was to go left.
You don’t know that
@@rcpmac yes I do
Connors team down low for windage.
2:23:36 going up the mast?
strange and non livable solutions… no, thanks
What an absolute snooze fest compared to the current three-foil flyers. There's no going back.
Absolutely true
The NZ broadcast does make it look boring, the Australian version had real onboard audio feed from stars and stripes, more exciting than the short attention span races of today.
Of course, but its history. Would not be in the foil without the history
Thanks!