I honestly think Jose Ramirez should be in the 50% tier. He's only 1 year older than Lindor and he's better with the bat. He's accumulated 30.8 war in less than 6 years. He was on pace for a 6 WAR year last year and could've won MVP. He will finish with 5+ WAR this year too. Additionally a lot of the percentile rankings on Baseball Savant show him as just a real quality player all around. Low strikeout relatively high walk guy with 93 percentile in OAA.
Spot on analysis. This video is exactly how I invest in current players. I don’t do any prospecting and stick to players with at least a 6-7 year track record. I try to buy fairly low pop cards (1000 or less) that are liquid. Baseball Reference is a must. I always look forward to your videos. Keep it up!
Prospecting is really fun, but man is it hard to justify. It's easy to find rookie cards of guaranteed HOFers for a lot less than guys who haven't even touched a pro ball field.
@@Precomo97 I agree. I can’t see spending a $1000+ on a Bowman Chrome 1st auto on the chance that the player MIGHT turnout to be a HOFer. Those odds are clearly not in our favor and chances are you will lose money. I know it’s fun to prospect, but I’m not wired to gamble like that.
Your videos are always informative and great to watch!! I started getting back into the hobby earlier this year. I'd like to see a rookie list of Bo Bichette rookies if you can put one together. The kid seems solid and definitely comes from some good baseball blood. Still young but could be a phenomenal player. Looking forward to your new videos. You definitely know your stuff! Thanks
First, I really enjoy your videos. Just started watching which is why I'm typing this now. I think deGrom is not even close to be a Hall of Famer as he's always hurt. He only has 77 career wins at 34! I'll be surprised if he gets to 120 wins. Only has 1,505 Ks...he'll be lucky to get 2,000. He can't stay on the field. I only say this as so many people throw out his name as the best, or even in same sentence with Kershaw, Scherzer, and he shouldn't be in the same conversation. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Great video. I love the breakdowns. I'm surprised you didn't included Stephen Strasburg. Won a WS, was the MVP and ROY. Wondering your take on his Hall chances...
Agree 100% that Topps Chrome RC is best for Pujols. Why in the world does PSA have the SP Authentic for both he and Ichiro as the card in the set registry?
The list I don’t have a problem with. But I don’t see how you’d buy the bowman chrome altuve rookie card over his topps update rookie diamond anniversary or cognac parallel. Any good rookie from 2011 it should be one of those two parallels
Best Scherzer auto RC is 2008 UD Masterpieces Strokes of Genius. I get that some people only know how to like Topps, but that doesn't mean Topps is best all the time. Also, Trout's best RC is 2011 Bowman Draft paper. High grade chrome is way to easy to find, but the paper stuff is hard to find in gem mint. Give it time and it'll eventually overtake the chrome base.
Fascinating video 🤔, Correa and Altuve have a chance 😀. Altuve has 3 batting titles for a 2B that's elite imo. Goldschmidt has declined badly last 3 years.
For deGrom, I look at Johan Santana because after 8 years they both had 2 Cy Young awards, had fairly similar numbers and both looked like potential hall of farmers. Santana then only pitched 4 more years and isn’t in. I want to see what deGrom looks like 4 years from now. On track? Yes, but would be at a coin flip category for me right now.
I tend to like Altuve's chances of making the Hall a lot better than guys like Sale (injury prone and probably mostly forgotten by now), Ramirez (really needs to pick up the WAR pace considering his age), and Simmons (decent player but pretty forgettable, and no all-star games really hurts). Plus, Altuve's awards resume is considerably more impressive than any of them. And on top of all that, he's also one of the most clutch performers ever. While he most likely wouldn't make the Hall if his career ended today, I think he'd have to completely fall off a cliff to not make it in (which he isn't really showing much signs of).
Is the reason for not including Bowman Chrome autos in this list is because that's already known as the go to choice? Or is there some other logic related to price, value, etc?
Great video but Stanton I think Stanton should be in the 75% chance column. One of the most prominent power hitters of the last 50 years and if he makes it to 500 homers he’s a lock. Agree?
You have almost exactly the same views as me on all of these guys. The only two omissions I'd be curious about your positions on are Nelson Cruz and Robinson Cano. Cruz definitely doesn't line up sabermetrics-wise but if/when he gets 500 homers I think he could have a very McGriff-like case. Cano would be a 100% lock without the PEDs, even after the first suspension. But the 2nd time really knocked him out imo, but performance wise he has the numbers.
Cano is the closest thing we have to a modern McGwire or Sosa in terms of reputation. Being not only a repeat offender, not only unapologetic, but also not as elite as steroid users who are in the Hall or will be, he’s not getting in. Cruz is a more interesting case. While not as elite as Cano, he’s built his reputation up tremendously in recent years. Unfortunately his WAR is in the low 40s, so he’s really lacking.
Hey Todd, Good catch! Correa is one I should have included on this list. I thought he was below 30 war, but he is having a good season and it pushed over 30. I would have put him in the 50% tier. he is a really good player!
Hey Bob, I think Acuna has all the potential in the world to get there, but I had a rule in this video to only talk about players with 30+ war so there wouldn't be too much speculation. Thanks for watching!
I think you are way too focused on WAR. Last comment, I would put Molina in over deGrom. I live in St Louis and Yadi is such a leader. He's the heart and soul, always get's the loudest applause.
I would've liked White Sox Jose Abreu's chances if he'd been a little younger when he defected from Cuba. As is, he'll likely need 5 more very productive years to enter into the conversation. Without the Fountain of Youth, it's probably not in the cards.
Aaron Judge and Kris Bryant aren't over 30 war yet so I couldn't include them in this list. Anthony Rizzo has a chance but he will have to play at a very high level into his mid to late 30s. I could see an argument for him being in the 25% or 50% tier!
So do all of you RUclipsrs just spontaneously get the same ideas or do you guys all watch one person and then make the same video? Because didn't baseball card investor do this video last week?
I have been working on this video for a little over a month off and on. I put about 15 hours into it plus editing time. The fact that another RUclipsr did the same video is coincidence. I was sad to see he posted it right before I did, but I wasn't going to throw away all of the hard work I had already put in.
@@scottiebcards2354 that's exactly what I was asking... I was wondering if its like "they" say is one of those things that happens... like the pyramids... "spontaneous universal consciousness" or something like that. Your video was a lot better and clearly had a lot of work put in, thanks for answering my question!
Shocked bogaerts isn’t on this list, over 30 WAR at 29, 1239 hits and 4 SS, .290 ba and 2 World Series. If he plays the way he has the last 3-4 years for the next 3-4, he’ll be 33 with 1900 hits and probably 6 SS, his war would also be at a minimum 44 at that point
You do not think Yadiar Molina is a for sure Hall of Famer? I would disagree! He is one of the best catchers to ever play. You should look at the Cardinals all-time hit list. He is a lot better than Buster Posey. Posey is overrated!
Posey is not overrated. Don’t say that without doing research. He has been clutch for the giants for so long and is one of the best fielding catchers in the game. He carried the giants to 2 world Series and look at his 2021 numbers. Batting .322
Can't agree with you more. Plus, he's failed to mention the Platinum Gloves and Gold Gloves he's had so far. He's, in my opinion, one of the best defensive catcher's of this generation. This is coming from a Dodgers fan. Other than that, I agree with the analysis.
Pujols for sure, however, he made it on the Cardinals. He's been average for a decade. I don't think he's hit over .300 in 10 years. Again, for sure, but take away Cardinal stats, he's been average.
Another thing also just because they might be a HOF dont mean their card is a good investment. If they dont have a big fanbase then not much interest in their cards.
If you listen quietly you can hear the cry’s of flippers realizing their gravy train has left the station. Their new career manufacturing kiddie porn awaits.
Well, in my defense I can see an argument for Fred Mcgriff as well 🤷♂️. Another reason why I put Votto in is because of support I have seen from known hall of fame voters who vocalize their vote for Votto. He will not be a first ballot hall of famer, but if I had to put money on it I think he gets in. Thanks for watching!
@@scottiebcards2354 not a problem, LOVE THE CHANNEL! Keep up the good work. If your ever interested in a "guys that should get to 3k hits, 500 HR " I have done alot of research on the subject and would gladly help out.
I honestly think Jose Ramirez should be in the 50% tier. He's only 1 year older than Lindor and he's better with the bat. He's accumulated 30.8 war in less than 6 years. He was on pace for a 6 WAR year last year and could've won MVP. He will finish with 5+ WAR this year too. Additionally a lot of the percentile rankings on Baseball Savant show him as just a real quality player all around. Low strikeout relatively high walk guy with 93 percentile in OAA.
always appreciate your content even if I do not agree.... clear, concise and with conviction.... well done as usual buddy.
Spot on analysis. This video is exactly how I invest in current players. I don’t do any prospecting and stick to players with at least a 6-7 year track record. I try to buy fairly low pop cards (1000 or less) that are liquid. Baseball Reference is a must. I always look forward to your videos. Keep it up!
Prospecting is really fun, but man is it hard to justify. It's easy to find rookie cards of guaranteed HOFers for a lot less than guys who haven't even touched a pro ball field.
@@Precomo97 I agree. I can’t see spending a $1000+ on a Bowman Chrome 1st auto on the chance that the player MIGHT turnout to be a HOFer. Those odds are clearly not in our favor and chances are you will lose money. I know it’s fun to prospect, but I’m not wired to gamble like that.
Your videos are always informative and great to watch!! I started getting back into the hobby earlier this year. I'd like to see a rookie list of Bo Bichette rookies if you can put one together. The kid seems solid and definitely comes from some good baseball blood. Still young but could be a phenomenal player. Looking forward to your new videos. You definitely know your stuff! Thanks
100% agree with Votto, thanks for giving him due credit.
Anytime! I think he is slept on so I wanted to give him a little recognition!
One of the best HOF analysis videos I have seen. Thanks for taking the time to put together.
Great list Zack Greinke is underrated he is a great pitcher, Altuve to me is a 75% guy
If altuve gets 3000 hits 100% and with his playoff performaces i would think he might get in with anything north of 2500 hits.
Altuve is 100% a cheater POS..
I want altuve in but If the roids guys aren't getting forgiven nobody from the trashcan team is getting in unfortunately.
First, I really enjoy your videos. Just started watching which is why I'm typing this now. I think deGrom is not even close to be a Hall of Famer as he's always hurt. He only has 77 career wins at 34! I'll be surprised if he gets to 120 wins. Only has 1,505 Ks...he'll be lucky to get 2,000. He can't stay on the field. I only say this as so many people throw out his name as the best, or even in same sentence with Kershaw, Scherzer, and he shouldn't be in the same conversation. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Nice list, kind of thought Jose Abreu would be here. He has a slight chance if he would increase his production a bit more.
Great video. I love the breakdowns. I'm surprised you didn't included Stephen Strasburg. Won a WS, was the MVP and ROY. Wondering your take on his Hall chances...
Loved the video! I learned so much. There were many times where I had to pause to do some more research and some eBay searches. Thanks again!
Agree 100% that Topps Chrome RC is best for Pujols. Why in the world does PSA have the SP Authentic for both he and Ichiro as the card in the set registry?
This topic was WAAAAY overdue......thanks for making it happen 🍻💰💰💰
The list I don’t have a problem with. But I don’t see how you’d buy the bowman chrome altuve rookie card over his topps update rookie diamond anniversary or cognac parallel. Any good rookie from 2011 it should be one of those two parallels
Best Scherzer auto RC is 2008 UD Masterpieces Strokes of Genius. I get that some people only know how to like Topps, but that doesn't mean Topps is best all the time.
Also, Trout's best RC is 2011 Bowman Draft paper. High grade chrome is way to easy to find, but the paper stuff is hard to find in gem mint. Give it time and it'll eventually overtake the chrome base.
Fascinating video 🤔, Correa and Altuve have a chance 😀. Altuve has 3 batting titles for a 2B that's elite imo. Goldschmidt has declined badly last 3 years.
Goldy take hadn't aged well lol
For deGrom, I look at Johan Santana because after 8 years they both had 2 Cy Young awards, had fairly similar numbers and both looked like potential hall of farmers. Santana then only pitched 4 more years and isn’t in. I want to see what deGrom looks like 4 years from now. On track? Yes, but would be at a coin flip category for me right now.
"Who knows how HOF voters vote." Awesome comment!
great video - more and more player analysis please
Great video. Awesome breakdown of the stats, key indicators, and reasonable tiers.
And I just bought that Zack Greinke Bowman Chrome raw and it’s hard to find one with good centering for sure.
I tend to like Altuve's chances of making the Hall a lot better than guys like Sale (injury prone and probably mostly forgotten by now), Ramirez (really needs to pick up the WAR pace considering his age), and Simmons (decent player but pretty forgettable, and no all-star games really hurts). Plus, Altuve's awards resume is considerably more impressive than any of them. And on top of all that, he's also one of the most clutch performers ever. While he most likely wouldn't make the Hall if his career ended today, I think he'd have to completely fall off a cliff to not make it in (which he isn't really showing much signs of).
Scottie B you should do a Brett Phillips video and how cheap his cards are !
Scottie B, do you think Sabitha will be a 1st ballot HOFer?
Also, I think Arenado Chrome purple refractor color match is probably right up your alley. It's not numbered, but best looking.
Is the reason for not including Bowman Chrome autos in this list is because that's already known as the go to choice? Or is there some other logic related to price, value, etc?
Great video but Stanton I think Stanton should be in the 75% chance column. One of the most prominent power hitters of the last 50 years and if he makes it to 500 homers he’s a lock. Agree?
Are there active hall of famers now lol
JK, my man. Thanks for the vids!
Interesting. I don't know anything about Andrelton Simmons. He doesn't get any national love.
No shot for Simmons if he gets in jimmy rollins has to get in . Goldshimdt reminds me of fred mgriff or Joe Carter solid .
I think mcgriff and carter should get in
You really know your stuff thanks for all the information sir.
You have almost exactly the same views as me on all of these guys. The only two omissions I'd be curious about your positions on are Nelson Cruz and Robinson Cano. Cruz definitely doesn't line up sabermetrics-wise but if/when he gets 500 homers I think he could have a very McGriff-like case. Cano would be a 100% lock without the PEDs, even after the first suspension. But the 2nd time really knocked him out imo, but performance wise he has the numbers.
Cano is the closest thing we have to a modern McGwire or Sosa in terms of reputation. Being not only a repeat offender, not only unapologetic, but also not as elite as steroid users who are in the Hall or will be, he’s not getting in.
Cruz is a more interesting case. While not as elite as Cano, he’s built his reputation up tremendously in recent years. Unfortunately his WAR is in the low 40s, so he’s really lacking.
Great vid Scott 👍🏼
Let's go! Thank you so much! Love the video
Does Brandon Crawford have any chance of making it to the HOF? Same with Kris Bryant? Giants fan and loving both of them
Votto now ha 24HR and is banging one out every other game. He's a lock to get in first round.
Great video Scott. What about Correa? 31 WAR and almost 27 years old.
Hey Todd,
Good catch! Correa is one I should have included on this list. I thought he was below 30 war, but he is having a good season and it pushed over 30. I would have put him in the 50% tier. he is a really good player!
Awesome content…thanks!
Anytime. Thanks for watching!
Think Brett Gardner, Jorge Posada, or Nick Markakis might have a fringe shot at the hall? Probably not quite good enough
been debating on picking up a stan rookie for a few months now.
Important to remember that Jacob DeG is on the Mets lol. I think low wins is understandable
I think Andrelton Simmons is fantastic.
What about Abrau?
I didn't notice Acuna, he's not a futute HOF?
Hey Bob,
I think Acuna has all the potential in the world to get there, but I had a rule in this video to only talk about players with 30+ war so there wouldn't be too much speculation. Thanks for watching!
Anyone who says that a 9 or 9.5 isn’t a good investment.... probably isn’t a good investor.
Where would you put Carlos Beltran, or does he not have a chance at all? 😜🤪
WoW Judge & Ohtani should get in based on their bodies alone.
I think you are way too focused on WAR. Last comment, I would put Molina in over deGrom. I live in St Louis and Yadi is such a leader. He's the heart and soul, always get's the loudest applause.
I would've liked White Sox Jose Abreu's chances if he'd been a little younger when he defected from Cuba.
As is, he'll likely need 5 more very productive years to enter into the conversation. Without the Fountain of Youth, it's probably not in the cards.
Agreed. It is so hard for some of the players who debut later in their careers to have a chance now a days.
Love your videos. Super informative. They’d be so much better if you slowwwed downnn. You talk way too fast! If possible, that would be super duper.
What about Anthony Rizzo and Aaron Judge and Kris Bryant
Aaron Judge and Kris Bryant aren't over 30 war yet so I couldn't include them in this list. Anthony Rizzo has a chance but he will have to play at a very high level into his mid to late 30s. I could see an argument for him being in the 25% or 50% tier!
What about Aroldis Chapman
So do all of you RUclipsrs just spontaneously get the same ideas or do you guys all watch one person and then make the same video? Because didn't baseball card investor do this video last week?
I have been working on this video for a little over a month off and on. I put about 15 hours into it plus editing time. The fact that another RUclipsr did the same video is coincidence. I was sad to see he posted it right before I did, but I wasn't going to throw away all of the hard work I had already put in.
@@scottiebcards2354 that's exactly what I was asking... I was wondering if its like "they" say is one of those things that happens... like the pyramids... "spontaneous universal consciousness" or something like that. Your video was a lot better and clearly had a lot of work put in, thanks for answering my question!
Cole and Correa too
Shocked bogaerts isn’t on this list, over 30 WAR at 29, 1239 hits and 4 SS, .290 ba and 2 World Series. If he plays the way he has the last 3-4 years for the next 3-4, he’ll be 33 with 1900 hits and probably 6 SS, his war would also be at a minimum 44 at that point
Was the video sped up?
It wasn't, I was just talking really fast because it was so much info and I didn't want it to be too long of a video! Thanks for watching!
I like Zak Grienke but his rookies are too expensive already.
You do not think Yadiar Molina is a for sure Hall of Famer? I would disagree! He is one of the best catchers to ever play. You should look at the Cardinals all-time hit list. He is a lot better than Buster Posey. Posey is overrated!
Posey is not overrated. Don’t say that without doing research. He has been clutch for the giants for so long and is one of the best fielding catchers in the game. He carried the giants to 2 world Series and look at his 2021 numbers. Batting .322
But also I do think he will make it in and he has definitely had an amazing career.
@@impulsezr4770 maybe Posey is pretty good but Yadier Molina is a lot better in my opinion.
Can't agree with you more. Plus, he's failed to mention the Platinum Gloves and Gold Gloves he's had so far. He's, in my opinion, one of the best defensive catcher's of this generation. This is coming from a Dodgers fan. Other than that, I agree with the analysis.
Yeah yadi is a generational catcher and is an easy lock
Jose Abreu?
Michael Brantley?
Pujols for sure, however, he made it on the Cardinals. He's been average for a decade. I don't think he's hit over .300 in 10 years. Again, for sure, but take away Cardinal stats, he's been average.
These PSA counts coming out are shocking . Bol bol . Hachimura , luk Colby white wander Franco
Lets talk about goldy now tho
Another thing also just because they might be a HOF dont mean their card is a good investment. If they dont have a big fanbase then not much interest in their cards.
TJ number 2, de Grom is done. Won’t get in. IMHO.
Hindsight is 20/20 though…
If you listen quietly you can hear the cry’s of flippers realizing their gravy train has left the station. Their new career manufacturing kiddie porn awaits.
Aaron judge u missed
Altuve > Bregman Judge > Stanton
Great click bait. Even better video
Cmon man Fred Mcgriff isn't in the HOF and your gonna put Votto in? The same guy whose stats most resemble Derek Lee... that Joey Votto? Cmon man
Well, in my defense I can see an argument for Fred Mcgriff as well 🤷♂️. Another reason why I put Votto in is because of support I have seen from known hall of fame voters who vocalize their vote for Votto. He will not be a first ballot hall of famer, but if I had to put money on it I think he gets in. Thanks for watching!
@@scottiebcards2354 not a problem, LOVE THE CHANNEL! Keep up the good work. If your ever interested in a "guys that should get to 3k hits, 500 HR " I have done alot of research on the subject and would gladly help out.
I just came here to give the video a thumbs down, as punishment for the click bait.
If Jorge Posada not in the HOF then Molina shouldn’t
Agree, keep them both out. Lol
Molina has Gold Gloves though 🤔
Lol Altuve cheated. The only people who think not are Astro Fans. If he gets in than Big Mac gets in.