Um..hello..Justin is OBVIOUSLY ipopping pills!!! I know certain pills cause major agitation.. causes irritability. THIS is exactly what we are witnessing.🔴🔴🔴
Um..hello..Justin is OBVIOUSLY ipopping pills!!! I know certain pills cause major agitation.. causes irritability. THIS is exactly what we are witnessing.🔴🔴🔴
With his name she is able to have a career, nobody knew who she was before Bieber..To me it's pretty clear she's after fame and attention,that's her true drive and that's why she does everything she does..
No, she’s a classic example of children marrying each other. If she’d waited and been in a few relationships, she’d have gone through the usual cycle of being burned, and learning to see and find the red flags before committing to anyone. And the adults around her failed her, because all they saw was a famous name and a lot of money, instead of an abusive boy with a complicated past he hasn’t fully understood is not an excuse to hurt people in his life.
@@pabloescobarschanclas because you can wish for something that’s actually good for you if you’re self aware, love yourself, have a healthy mindset and are a bit mature. You wish for things that aren’t good for you when you don’t know better than to know they’re not good for you. I’ve been there, I’ve learnt, that’s why i make that distinction.
@@Lemana28021989holy shit…. Thank you for writing this! I think I do this. Reading it how you put it just made a lightbulb go off. Now how do you unsuffocate your inner self
No one knows what goes on in a relationship except the people in it. Sure people can spot toxicity or when something's off but the dynamics outside the public view are unknown.
@@Lemana28021989you nailed it. It’s not her, it’s himself. He was let down by every single person in his life that was supposed to love and protect him and instead threw him to the wolves. He needs help to heal and learn how to love himself.
Guys, remember not to become your partner's full-time caregiver and therapist. There is a difference between supporting a partner in a difficult situation and providing complete care to a functioning adult.
They have the perfect formula for a co-dependent relationship. He at best exhibits narc behaviour and he for sure loves being worshipped and she feels validation through being needed.
She forced love on a man she was obsessed with the idea of, and the idea of how their life looks or would look, and has convinced herself she is happy bc this was her childhood “dream”. But remember that he isn’t a nepotism baby like her, and Selena wasn’t a nepotism baby either, so the disconnect he likely feels after some fan seeing his break up just being “readily available” without any question, without making him work for it, or likely ever setting boundaries for him (bc she wanted to be with him so bad)… these things will NOT build a genuine or solid bond.. she wants what she saw Justin had with Selena in all the kids/teen magazines she read, but you can’t just plant yourself and your ideas of that on someone who was otherwise a stranger to you (apart from you and your famous dad stalking him for years).. she was raised VERY wealthy and sees life from a different lens, in ways I don’t think they could ever connect/bond on fully. He suffered heavy traumas as a child star and likely bonded with Selena over their similar struggles as teen stars who supported their families financially as oppose to her living the exact opposite of that.. Hailey was given everything without having to struggle or work for it, so I could even see him unfairly accepting this relationship, but not respecting her. They both need people who understand them and who they are, to feel seen, truly loved, and understood. I think she has this idea so big in her head she is stuck in believing it now, and he probably feels smothered bc she lurked and was obsessed for so long that I am sure he doubts her love and likely questions if its just obsession, bc would she love him still if he was just an average dude? He isn’t innocent, but I believe both their actions stand from this marriage not sparking from true love but just lust and rebound, but truly someone needs to break this toxic cycle bc it isn’t healthy for either of them and is obviously bringing out the worst of both people.
Part of me feels sorry for her, as watching them makes me feel very so uncomfortable!!!! 😢 However, going back in time, she pursued him, endlessly with a 'mean girl' attitude, as "if he wasn't HER woman, no other woman" can have him! Regardless of the consequences..... Kinda like in a spoilt brat with a narcissistic manner. Breaking any girl code, I suspect. Including Being emotionally cruel and showing off at other along the way, with glee. And therefore, reducing any respect for herself, as merely as, the shameless stalker!!! She kinda oozes a jealousy and clinginess about her. I think she may have some regrets about, the lengths she went to, to procure him, as her "ultimate prize'.... She certainly did dish some nasty stuff out herself, along the way! Obviously, in the long term, she done herself, no favours.😑 This is what happens when a narcissist, claims, a prime narcissist, as their 'prize" goal...... Justin will now say he feels 'trapped' and then justify his lashing out at her. This relationship is toxic, and sadly looks like a car crash, for all involved 😢
She does love him. Fans do love their celeb crush and dream to be with them forever lol. Is probably why they take the abuse just to be with their crush. So yeah she'll never leave. @jetmechgirl9022
She trashed a good-hearted, innocent person - they destroyed her ,almost killed her ... they deserve everything bad! Hope Miss trashybieber gets all the worse of Justin side!👌😘
He’s definitely her worst enemy. He didn’t even defend her a year ago when the whole Hailey vs Selena stuff was happening. If I was her that would’ve been the last straw for me
Its the loneliest feeling in the world when you are married to someone and you realize they don’t love you, after years of that checked-out bare minimum attitude
When he slammed the car door in her face, he meant it. There are no excuses for him. It doesn't matter how he was brought up or what he does for a living, he's just a human being and knows better. He's an entitled, and clearly abusive, jerk.
Justin acts like a real immature jerk and needs to treat Hailey a lot better. He doesn't even let her into the vehicle first, showing complete lack of manners. I hope Hailey is truly happy because if not, don't waste the best years of your life on a man who doesn't truly love you.
or it's reactive abuse because he is actually being abused and manipulated gaslighted by her and his family and he is catching on.... as a victim of abuse your comments are absolute bullshit. Yes he could just be a abusive dickhead but I can think of plenty of times either myself or somebody I know acts out and reacts in a way that seems abusive and sure maybe it is without context of the person reaching their absolute limit mentally from intense psychological, physical and/or financial abuse. I am not saying I know for certain but I know you saying there is no reason is bullshit people can't always handle the stress of constant abuse and react abusively to their abuser.
@@b.biscuit6424 and in what way they could abuse justin, hailey's father wanted money and haley wanted bieber, and justin freely accepted the marriage, he had no reason to be in trap since he has the power
@@Meow45146 Exactly I don't believe that he is being abused more like he is the aggressive one. He never treated Selena well either so it is a trait of his. In Selena song about him she mentions how he wasn't nice to her either, probably why they kept breaking up.
@@abbied do the breaking up. In this case, it would be divorce or separation in the technical. If you act like an a-hole, the person on the receiving end might end it, so you don't have to be the one ending it.
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat When’s Biebs gonna learn (or is he ever?) That boy needed a father but if you research it his father is an even bigger piece of work than Biebs (so I don’t totally blame him) but yeah 🤧😭
Totally agree. She seems delusional and defends him. It really is embarrassing, even just the fact that he truly never looks happy with her and has never looked at her the way he looked at Selena. Not saying I want him and Selena together, but just saying that I almost feel bad for her. She should want more for herself.
@@twothousandandchew did I say it was healthy? No I did not babe. When you're that in love and obsessed, you don't see the red flags. It's not that deep.
I remember someone going into how Hailey’s parents have this dynamic. Her father was a mess and her mother was his caretaker. We often seek out relationships with those who mirror that of our parents. This isn’t healthy. A parent/child dynamic in a romantic partnership is usually incredibly imbalanced when it comes to equality within the relationship. It takes a great deal of awareness and intent to dismantle it.
The rumor is that Justin needed to get married because of visa problems, something about him losing a lot of royalty money if he was forced to go back to Canada. At the same time Stephen Baldwin almost went bankrupt or worse due to tax-debt. Then all of a sudden Justin proposes to Selena who declines, and then he's quickly married to Hailey while Stephen's tax debt got paid off. The story is that it was paid off with Justin's money in exchange for the visa-marriage.
I have dificulty in connecting with other people cuz of how my parents treat me. In my case, I never want to find the same relationship they have, prefer to be alone.
You don't have to like Hailey as a person to know that no one deserves to be publicly disrespected and humiliated by their spouse. His behavior is childish and abusive. He's allowed to be mad, depressed, whatever for his own valid reasons but he's NOT entitled to take it out on his wife. It's obvious she's a "fixer" and probably very codependent, especially if she grew up watching her dad treat her mom the way Justin treats her. She allows it because it feels "normal", plus she was in love with him for so many years so admitting he's an asshole and she made a huge mistake would be too painful. I've been there myself. I've been the caretaker girlfriend who put up with disrespect, verbal abuse, lack of effort, etc b/c I loved him and my self-worth was so low I didn't think I deserved any better. Hopefully as she gets older she will realize she deserves better than a slob in sweatpants who yells at her in public.
I dislike women who cheat with men who are taken and she says she is Christian come on let's be real she is just loves him for what he can give her and her whole family and Justin are narcissistic
He’s a crappy human, and has been for a long time. No idea how anyone can worship him like some of his fans do. He’s an insufferable entitled man-child who only cares about himself. She may not be perfect, and has her own flaws, but Justin’s behavior is 100% that of an abuser, and that behavior is never justified. And this is only the stuff that is done in the public eye. Anyone who has ever been in an abusive relationship knows that if THIS is the behavior shown in public, there is WAY worse abuse going on behind the privacy of closed doors. I hope Hailey finds the strength to recognize that this isn’t the treatment she deserves from her spouse. It’s not normal, and it will never be justifiable.
Justin Beiber was the most passed around childhood star to ever exist in the industry. He was taken advantage by nearly every major adult in his life. He was abused…hurt people hurt others
I'm not a fan of any of these people but damn, I feel bad for Hailey. He treats her like an enemy, not a wife. She got herself a spoiled son, not a husband.
Don’t feel too bad, she bullies his ex on social media, total mean girl vibes. They may just be perfect for each other… he’s just used to cameras and she’s trying to pretend she’s a good girl still.
@@jessikadeline7492Nah mean girls deserve this treatment honestly. Used to feel bad for her cuz she chose a grown child for a husband but bullying people online and also home-wrecking so you can be famous is wild to me… They deserve each other. He seems miserable because of choice he made and she seems miserable because of choices she’s made.
@@The.Hawaiian.KingdomI mean can you blame her? I don’t support it at all, but do you even see the extremes of this situation and how that could impact someone’s mental? Put yourself in her shoes and just imagine.
@@Aylii1 You’re being a hypocrite. You can’t say _”I don’t support it at all”_ yet try to justify it… that’s in fact supporting it. Yes I can blame her, she’s an adult, have you forgotten she’s married?!?! Children being bully’s is bad, adults being bully’s is disgusting, immature, childish, and pathetic. You can’t take your pain out on others, especially not people completely innocent in a situation & manipulating others to join in on you bullying is even worse. That’s some high school mean girls bs.
Yeah, this idea that our husbands mental health should come before ours is really weird. Goes back to this idea that women are FOR men. What’s sad to me is that her parents taught her that shit, that’s where we all learn what our “roles” are supposed to be. Parents should be teaching boys and girls to know that the social roles that currently exist are not nature….there’s a more sinister reason for gender roles. Maybe that way boys and girls can each grow up to recognize red flags instead of playing a role and staying in abusive situations.
Ya, that's how mentally stable ppl think. Haileys mom takes care of her dad just like this. This woman isn't going anywhere, she loves controlling justin. He even said she keeps him in a straight line cuz of her strict ways
She can't. He has something on her. Something BAD. So if she leaves so can no longer keep track of what he says. That's why no one else is intervening because they know what she did.
It’s also not okay to smother someone when they’re begging for space. Being too clingy is just as bad. What about the way she speaks for him? It can go both ways
The very fact that he walks off (or rides off) without her, leaving her behind instead of walking with her, hand on her back, protecting her, is a HUGE red flag. 🤦🏻♀️☹️
I mean at this point everything he's ever done is a massive red flag (he even treats Kendall Jenner (his ex girlfriend) more respectfully than to Hailey so yeah)
@@PolyglotJyea omg the way he acted all giddy and almost flirtatious towards Kendall! And he asks her if she saw him & hailey happening? Almost like it’s a sideshow spectacle like he legit acts like she’s a joke..no wonder people disrespect her. And he kept blocking hailey from the camera on the zoom with Kendall. I don’t even like Hailey but damn, that’s just super sad. Also, I think he needed an ego boost and a rebound to take his mind off things after his breakup with Selena so he chose the pretty somewhat famous fan of his. That’s fine but it should’ve ended there. I think he doesn’t respect her because he doesn’t look at her like she’s on his level and he probably thinks he’s doing her a service just being with her. He’s such a child..I can’t believe he calls himself a husband 🙄
@@vaishnavigosain7197 Selena didn't cheat lol She and The Weeknd obviously used each other to make their exes jealous The Weeknd was the one who broke up with her and he also got back with Bella Hadid 1 week after their breakup The Weeknd just fell in love and realized it too late The line 'I said I didn't feel nothing baby but I lied' from Call Out My Name and 'Regret I didn't tell you,Now I can't keep you from loving him' from Out Of Time basically confirms that
@@vaishnavigosain7197She’s always given me secret mean girl vibes (or at least, very moody and only cares about catering to her own mood vibes), and then one of my friends said they briefly knew her a couple years ago and said she was snotty, mopey, and rude. Wasn’t surprised about it.
So glad none of my toxic relationship was documented, filmed or photographed and put online. Being in the spotlight is overrated! How heartbreaking for her 💔
@@stephaniemartinsfachadaShe made poor choices regarding her personal relationships , and hurry in to this marriage but I believe she would find out by herself that's she deserves a mutual relationship and marriage, but not this one ! Some people when they are to young make poor decisions in their lives and then realized once they're ready to grow up mentally and emotionally!
I think this is a great example of men who break up and immediately jump into another relationship without processing their emotions or healing, but inflated x10000 and in the public eye.
I laughed out loud when you quoted her saying that she couldn’t leave him because she’s loved him for a very long time. Longer than he’s even known that she existed.
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
my first thought as she was lying through her teeth about how great he treats her Also shame on the public for their infantile behavior. Grown ass man chanting Selena Gomez at her??
Hailey is a stalker. And, the relationship blossomed from that. Hailey copied many, many, many things Selena did. I think that once Justin found out about all of what Hailey had done-Justin became disillusioned and completely devastated, and it took a toll on his health.
Sounds like the honeymoon phase was over a few years ago. He's too narcissistic--she's screwed. I hope she gets out (and I'm not a fan)--she deserves better. If he's acting like this in public with no shame, it's absolutely worse in private. She's already having to defend him all the time like she's trauma bonded. Hope she educates herself so she can understand what's really going on!
I got “arranged” vibes when Steve Baldwin was acting so interested in Justin during that brief interview and like he didn’t recall his previous interaction with Justin. Like Steve didn’t just forget that, he knew what he was doing.
What I think is. Haley is just convenience for Justin. She's there when he wants her and when he doesn't want her then he doesn't want her. He knows she's not going anywhere so he just takes advantage of that.
@@meliss9536 can you read? The person didn't say it's her fault, just that some things in life are beyond what we actually know and she learned it as the most painful lesson because he revealed himself as a abusive piece of shit
I feel like JB has gone through so much trauma from being famous so young & they say trauma freezes you at the age you experience it. And for a partner to bear that kind of weight in a marriage is really hard.
@bayleymacintosh5622 yes! Also presence can help him with that anxiety he feels. I really think he needs help from what he experienced when with Diddy.
Anybody who has known or been in an emotionally or physically abusive relationship knows that the one receiving the abuse will always talk highly of their abuser until they are ready to speak up
@@miggs80 no one knows exactly but Hailey said it herself early in their marriage that she couldn't do it any longer.. apparently her mother told her to hang in there. From my knowledge no marriage should make you feel that way.
Not quite related to their marriage, but Justin was so polite and nice when he met her dad on that carpet. I'm just so used to him being a rude adult now. It's so jarring. He seemed like a sweet kid once upon a time. It's a shame what's happened since then.
He was, but I think Hollywood destroyed him. All that celebrity lifestyle, touring, adults grooming him since he was a little kid, not being able to go outside like a normal person would, to have genuine friendships and relationships, all while having that amount of money... that has to take a toll on you, especially when you're so young. I don't excuse his behaviour, but I do have empathy for that. I think there is a very, very small amount of people who would be able to handle all that and not turn into a shell of a human being.
Sexual abuse/rape and being exploited by everyone around you does that to a person. He's the product of unimaginable abuse and suffering. He's no meaner to Hailey than he is himself.
In my head, Hailey is a spoiled rich brat who got asked one time in her teenage years “what do you want for Christmas darling” and she answered “I want Justin Bieber” and ever since her father was on the quest to set up “random” meetings between them
@@PinkkBarbie Justin has been exploited for years and years by grown men and women. I really do understand that he got a ton loads of issues he has to deal with. But I’m still pretty sure Hailey is not innocent either lol
If u want a divorce get it dont humiliate your wife or a use her dont care about Justin's change of heart grow up act like a man dont be cruel dont gossip let it go that's respect u rich folks need to grow up show sum respect😊
Considering how his whole sex life was messed up with his life, if live sex and tryst loyalty are all messed up. He probably really loves her, but his demons are catching up to him.
It doesn’t change this. I’ve been a fan of Justin since he first rose to fame. I stuck by him for years even when the headlines were bad. It was *heartbreaking* to find out about what happened to him, and I can’t imagine what it must have been like to deal with that and fame. That being said, it doesn’t excuse his behavior toward Hailey. It’s just not ok and there’s no excuse for him treating her like this.
I feel SO BAD for Hailey in terms of her relationship with Justin. I hope one day she can leave and find someone who will love her the way she wants to be.
@@jms5752 Exactly! I follow this couple about as much as I follow the latest updates on Chinese Basketweaving Techniques, but in the times I do happen across something about these two, I've never seen anyone say that she is actually a nice person. Quite the opposite - all I've ever read is about her being a really mean person.
I've dated someone like this. They lower your self esteem more and more day by day. I was also codependent and afraid to be alone. I hope she leaves asap and grows into the strong woman she is.
Soon after I married felt it was the wrong guy but I said well, I’m in it now, I made a commitment. My parents were divorced and I didn’t want that. Stuck it out for 10 years. Divorce was terrible after having children. I should have ended it immediately.
The double taxation causes affliction on the marriages. Most cookbooks have bad recipes that have to be corrected for errors and that creates embarrassment for the wife, which is not her fault. Schools don't teach about marriage, there's no sex education to make the marriage stronger, no training to circumvent corruption in government or the workplace which puts spouses on edge. Marriage is so difficult to navigate for both parties
They rushed into this marriage.Hailey knew he had trauma & she is not a doctor .I know she loves him .But should have waited untill he was healed & not jumped into a marriage.She admit that she has been in love with him for a long time.I feel it for her. But she knew what she was getting into.She deserved someone who loves her the same way.Hailey just need to walk away because cleary Justin does not love her the way she loves him.I think her parents had alot to do with this arranged marriage.Justin is cleary unhappy & so is Hailey.Hailey needs to love herself & should find her true love because she deserve to be happy & loved
The sad truth in all of this is that Justin was abused, ruined and chewed up and spit out by the industry. The world put him on a pedestal when he was only a little kid and getting married so quickly has just delayed his healing process. I honestly feel really bad for him, looking at those videos of him flipping out reminds me of a damaged little boy and sadly that’s something Haley will never understand. It will take YEARS for him to come to terms with the trauma that occurred in his childhood, he may not ever get over it. Hopefully he starts to gradually dilute himself out of the industry and live his life privately so he can finally be at peace.
Hailey is Justin's handler.She is friends with the Kards who are friends to Lou Taylor(loves to come in and pretend to help celebs then puts them in abusive conservatorship from which she profits) Lou Taylor orchestrated the Britney conservatorship. Her 600mil plus is still missing.
Both her parents push it. It's not a love connection for either. Now that the Puffy Combs stuff is coming out...he's probably got a lot of bad things on his heart & head that he was put thru at age 14. He was sent to live with Combs by his Mom. He needs to deal with all that so he can grow past it. Get a divorce already.
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
Especially not when they’re still so young and it’s still so early on! Like… if you’re having problems this extreme in the first few years of marriage, it’s INCREDIBLY unlikely that things are going to get any better… I don’t care what their biggest defenders (people majorly in denial, really) say, there’s no way anyone actually sees these two together in old age.
I would resent her too if she stalked me for 10 fucking years while copying my ex down to her tattoos, and fooled me into marrying her. Can’t imagine the horror when he found out
There was a Reddit thread that this girl posted and she said that her boyfriend was doing things like joking around and hitting her but when he hit her in these joking moments, she said that it actually really hurt, and she finally got tired of him doing it and called him out on his behavior, saying in a polite way that you know it was really hurtful, and she didn’t think it was funny and he blew up on her. He called her crazy. He accused her of saying she was going to tell everyone he was abusive and make him out to be some monster. He suggested they go for a walk to have this conversation but instead, she decided to stay in a safe place on their front porch in front of a camera, and it recorded this huge blowup of him behaving this way when he was called out for his “joking“ abuse. I hope no one ever accepts someone hitting you and then laughing and saying it’s a joke.
I think Hailey and her family were very calculated and knew exactly what they were doing. They met him, waited until him and Selena broke up and he was super vulnerable. They probably pressured him into moving fast and getting married and then trapping him down to management, marriage, maybe blackmail, etc. Now they’ve pushed him to the point where he can’t even play nice in public anymore. He has dropped several hints that it has all been arranged from the beginning and he is not happy. I honestly don’t even think Justin has any control over his own life.
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
That doesn’t make sense to me. Justin alone has more resources than that family. He has far more agency and free than you make him out, here. No one forced him to do anything.
This is what I honestly think. I think Justin was abused in the industry and during that turmoil took all his anger and abuse out on Selena as an outlet of what he was going through internally. I think to get away from these tormenting thoughts, he thought getting married would help heal him. Per his friend, he asked Selena first and she didn’t think they were ready. He got mad at the rejection, and per an interview he had, he was not afraid to ask Hailey became he knew she would say yes. Basically the marriage didn’t help him the way he thought it would and he never had closure with Selena. He broke down when he found out she was hospitalized for a mental breakdown knowing he probably helped cause that. He’s never truly dealt with what has happened to him or opened up about it and he’s never had the chance to tell Selena that he was sorry. I think he’s carrying all that mental baggage around and living in that misery and Hailey gets to go along for this ride. He needs to get help and he can’t be a good partner until he does.
I think this is spot on. Justin proposed to Haley out of spite, and Haley probably said yes because she had genuine love for him. It would explain the weird asf timeline of Justin being with Selena and then being engaged to Hailey so quickly. And it wasn't until they tied the knot that he realized he had made a mistake. Marriage didn't heal him and he probably still had lingering love for Selena. He tried to get over one situation (Selena) by going into another (Haley), but it probably didn't work and just made him worse. But being a devout Christian, he probably is trying his best to take his marriage seriously... even if that means being in an unhappy marriage. This all would explain his fluctuating dislike for Hailey... like "I'm stuck with you" vibes... It's pretty sad for Hailey because she probably went into this with genuine intentions. JB screwed both Selena and Hailey over, and the world pins the girls to one another, when they really should be faulting JB for this mess.
It's obvious how he acts, how he dresses ,the things he says he is checked out....when you look back on videos with him and Selena, he looks genuinely happy. From an outsider, this marriage is just an arrangement I feel bad for both of them. They both deserve to be w a partner that mutually loves, truly loves and respects each other.i hope they both find true love again.
I loved my ex so much but clearly far more than he loved me. Seeing Hailey looking at Justin with so much love whilst he just looks miserable, it reminds me of my past. Thank god im out and on the road to healing!
Yeah some people truly aren't capable of ever loving anyone besides themselves. They literally are just incapable of it. They will always love themselves first, everything will always be about them. They might love you as much as they are capable of but it will never be the type of love you give them and what you deserve. It will never be a healthy relationship or a healthy love.
This is clear abuse and what kind of mother tells her daughter it will pass when she was clearly crying out for help!! And those little monster tweens yelling and booing her on the red carpet are just evil little gremlins!
I don't think you're wrong and sounds like the whole family was in on the stalking. I am not a fan of either but having her mum say that to her daughter when it sounded ike she wanted out is just awful. @@dawnmaiorano8421
This is disgusting, I would drag my daughter ( don’t care how old she was) out of a relationship if I had seen or heard the dreadful way Justin is treating her !
Her daddy was the biggest encouraging factor. Justin could do anything to her and as long as daddy can say she’s married to Justin, and he could brag about it, he wouldn’t care. He started pushing Hailey on Justin, when they were both babies. The long term plan, with sad consequences
I think people need to realise that if he was genuinely abused he would be dealing with a lot of anger and mixed emotions. I think Hailey knows all this is sticking by him regardless of his problems. Imagine stepping out and constantly being photographed, questioned and harassed. I really hope things work out between them
Lol narcissistic? You really gave in into hayleys narrative. Its the other way around. Shes a predator and a manipulator. I would hate her too if i fell into her trap and lost control of my life.
There's a huge difference between being an emotionally unstable man and being an emotionally mature man. An emotionally mature man can talk about his feelings and explain them, an emotionally unstable man just lashes out and uses anger as the only feeling he knows how to express. That anger hides fear, sadness and other emotions that emotionally unstable men don't want to show.
Insightful! In other news, there's a huge difference between a dog and a cat, and between up and down! Easy to confuse them, but there actually are many subtle differences.
I always had the vibe he married her to upset Selena and spite her. In a narcissistic fashion. Justin definitely has the traits but then again Hailey can be toxic too with her entitlement to put other women down. Perfect for one another lol
All I can say is even on our worst days my husband still never would treat me disrespectful in public. That would give other people the impression they don't have to respect me and he ain't playing about that. He will go down for me to be respected regardless whats going on at home. And any man who really loves someone will act the same way
Absolutely! Just the clip of him getting out of the car and trying to close the door and stomping away without her like my husband would never even walk ahead of me like that. And he’s never said anything negative about me to anyone like this has to hurt her so much I can’t imagine.
I know it. Obviously her dad had a reason to get her with him so I'm sure there is something in it for her but still. My husband and I will go toe to toe in private but in public no way! In public everyone around me best come with respect! And he will set the tone for that no matter what. What's sad is the example they set for young females and what they will except as love
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
bro she's literally lying when she talks about how he treats her. girl we've SEEN the disrespect. she's defending him because she's always been obsessed and now that they're married she doesn't want to let that go!
Her saying they have a loving relationship at home is so spot on to a toxic relationship.. Of course you have good times, many people do in their toxic relationships, but she rarely smiles and I see the pit in her stomach in the pictures from her skin care release.. I have had that pit before. It's like she is embarrassed, but also has to deal with not pissing off her husband who seems to be on edge all the time. I can tell that moment was taken from her.
Girls lie . Wives lie to keep from looming like idiots. I've seen it all the time. They know they should leave but DONT. I'm guessing because it's the perks of being his wife. Like being invited to the met. Hailey by herself would NEVER have gotten it .
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
Look into that summer that Bieber spent with Diddy. People who are sexually abused often stop maturing at the age the abuse happened. Bieber was 15 when Diddy disappeared with him and then said he had "guardianship" over him.
I grew up listening to PUFF DADDY and loved him as a kid. He was the hype man for Bad Boy Ent. But I remember that reality TV show he did with the girl group, Making of the band, I think it was. I saw his true colors on that show. Like Kanye, he thinks he's God and everyone should kneel down before him. He's an authoritarian personality with too much power. Puff is a bad guy.
Based on this vid, he'll either get caught cheating or just straight up and leave her. The lack of care and disrespect shown towards her so far would cause a lot of women to leave, so if she hasn't by now, she won't.
It was honestly so sad seeing Hailey and Justin being treated so horribly on the Met Gala red carpet. It was just cruel. Regardless of anyone's opinion, they're real people with real feelings. It's their life and choices and people need to accept it.
Like you said they are real people with real feelings. They should also treat people kindly and maybe people won’t feel the “need” to say their peace to them. Not saying they deserve everything negative that comes their way but they definitely are petty and open the door for some of it to boomerang back to their doorstep. They are definitely not innocent!
What people don’t get about marriage is it’s hard, it’s real life. They’re humans, he’s got health problems and she’s stuck by him. People throw stones but they’re obviously committed. No ones perfect and no relationship is perfect. I can’t get behind wishing ill on a marriage.
@@ms_violet_majestyyeah but that doesn’t mean people have to start yelling at them selena’s name and being straight up mean to hailey especially in person. that’s just immature and rude to do to anyone in general
That clip of people chanting at Hailey will never not be devastating. I cannot even imagine. That is something most of the world could never even imagine having to deal with.
@@dannyS-bv6fz Yeah, but that's also very dismissive of what she's gone through. Just because she hasn't e experienced worse things and war doesn't mean that her experiences are not bad/healthy or that it doesn't matter. Thousands of women and men go through this everyday, not to mention children as well.
I was with my very toxic ex for two years who I met when I moved away to go to college. Towards the end of our relationship, I found out that he treated his ex before me just as horrible. Looking back, I realize that he took so much of his anger and hurt from losing his long term relationship out on me. I’ve been through it and I have a really strong feeling that it’s exactly the same way with Hailey. Toxic, immature people won’t ever change unless they get the help they need.
I will 100% agree with this! I truly believe he is angry him and Selena didn't work out, so he just took whatever opportunity he had with Hailey, and married her to cover up how he truly felt for Selena. Anyone who acts this way to a partner, is because they are taking out their anger from the hurt from someone else. Very familiar to this kind of thing, and it never turns out well.
The more I think about it…. When he was with Selena, did he *ever* display any behavior like this? Every relationship has arguments and not every moment isn’t going to be pretty, but I just can’t picture him closing a door in her face, running away from her or acting like such a child around her… is that just me?
I remember older women groping him as a teenager, I can’t imagine what he went through in private🥺 it’s no excuse for his behavior but I think he’s angry for a reason
But why do we need to compare these situations? (Just saying) and I don’t even like Bieber too much but I find he actually has a lot in common with Britney tbh 😕🤷🏻♀️
@@abbied Britney escaped with freedom to screw her head back on straight by a miracle and some very compassionate fans. Justin............well, I've read multiple accounts that he turned very nasty towards his fans as he got older.
@@beckyweiss6072 Britney Spears is bipolar and I think Justin Bieber probably is too (but I’m not a psychologist so don’t quote me on this) but Britney confessed to actually being bipolar JB didn’t (but I think he is bipolar)
Listen up, ladies (and gents too)! Thinking that you can enter a relationship with the sole intention of changing your partner is setting yourself up for disappointment. Real change has to come from within, from the person themselves. No amount of love or persuasion can force someone to change if they're not willing to do it for themselves. What's worse, by ignoring the red flags and tolerating verbal and emotional abuse in the hopes of molding your partner into your ideal version, you're essentially sacrificing your own well-being. Trust me, that's not healthy at all.
They have been married 6 years you lot are that pathetic you wish for someones relationship to fail because you dont like it. You dont know them or how they feel @Butterflies-are-free
@@janscott602 maybe so ,however Hailey is EMOTIONALLY UNBALANCED ! She was and possibly still is a (FAN. ) ATIC of JUSTIN BIEBER , and that is a FAR CRY from loving that person ! I am assuming Justin had NO IDEA of this OBSESSION she had for him . HAILEY BALDWIN didn’t. Need a HUSBAND THE GIRL SERIOUSLY NEEDS A THERAPIST! That is correct Justin was on the rebound , however HAILEY Got Married to her BIGGEST FAN ! Yikes !
He jumped into a marriage without healing himself. She should have taken a pause during their relationship to think it through prior to marrying him. What’s done is done. Hopefully they will healing.
Justin Bieber did that just to hurt Selena G at that time lol, he thinks that the world is his & ofc to Hailey, this is her ultimate chance to live up her Wattpad's y/n type of dream & now poof, she deserve it. Dream is not the same as reality
He came out about his sexual abuse and grooming from when he was young recently with the mysic industry..hopefully this helps him share and heal and move past it but every person goes through things as well and deals with all of it differently
@@bst.1502we all know about his past ppl need to stop acting like it’s an excuse to hurt and be vile to other ppl .. and before you say you don’t think it excuses him then you wouldn’t bring it up like we should feel bad for him because of it . He has plenty of resources to heal himself anything he could possibly need to heal is available to him if he chooses not to and continues to behave this way then it becomes a choice and he’s just a d0uche
I mean you could argue that putting all of a couple’s worst moments together could make any couple look bad, but then again, most couples I know and have seen on the internet haven’t managed to have this many bad moments on camera even after years of their marriage/relationship
@StarryWaters-gq1oj Some of the other videos were pretty bad on his part but the one you mention is clearly a joke . So idk you must have a perfect and docile marriage because pointing that bad joke as unforgivable makes you seem way too sensitive and hopefully the relationship your in isn’t that unstable for one line to ruin it like that
Diddy caused Justin a LOT of pain and trauma. Its just sad that in return he's hurting Hailey. I wish him all the healing in the world, i think hes stuck mentally in that age
I never liked him because he was such a little ass, but I now understand why and have a lot of empathy and compassion for him. So sad that he got into a church who was in it for themselves. The Bible does say that people in churches will deceive us and pretend to be Christians. This is one of those stories. I am a Christian but a very wise one too. I don't belong to any particular church and I am very careful of what is being preached. I have taken bible studies and understand the very basics of Christianity. I know I am a sinner and we all fall short of the glory of God. I am not perfect and I know how hard it is to try and be perfect as a Christian. Again I pray he finds his way. Justin needs a lot of help.
Justin will never respect Hailey, because he knows how obsessed she is with him. I do not think Justin has ever been in love with her, and I do not know if he will ever be able to, because Hailey stalked him for years. Part of me thinks he married Hailey to get back at Selena. I do not think at the time he realized how serious marriage was, and how bad Hailey wanted to be married to him.
I'm not trying to defend his behavior, but keep in mind he's been abused by men and women in the industry. He's got a lot of baggage, they should save themselves and the baby now and just end it. If anything a baby is going to make all this so much worse. I hope she gets out, I hope he can do the proper healing he needs to.
I was with a man for 12 yrs just like this. Broken and emotionally immature/unstable due to PTSD. It drove me nuts sometimes how he acted in public or at family events...didnt care about using foul lqnguage, constant negative talk and there i was every time trying to change the subject, make a joke, calm him down while i was DYING on the inside. It eats away at you and im angry i lost so many years to that.
Girl I feel you. From the outside you wouldn‘t unterstand why people even stay that long in such a relationship but once you really realize what is going on, you’re already neck deep in a codependence. It‘s really hard, I‘m glad you ended it. I also feel like I wasted so much time and energy on Someone like that. The best thing you can do is to never ever let it Happen again I guess❤️
This is really interesting to hear and thank you for sharing. I'm curious through what he was like at the beginning and what may have attracted you to him? I'm just wondering if there are red flags you saw there to watch out for or do they just turn into this crazy once you're in a full blown relationship.
@@monicabelluci6727 we have known each other since i was 14 and were friends but always kinda had a thing for one another. When i was 21 we started dating and i knew he had issues(PTSD)but it wasnt a problem for the first few years...we fell HARD and had an amazing first few years. Eventually things went down hill little by little...and after 12 years i reached my breaking point. He promised me countless times he wld change and get better. I did nothing but support and build him up..but the change just never happened so i ended it
But you stayed with him for 12 years... so you must have enjoyed the drama/abuse. All women do this. They go out with the douchebag from an early age, then settle for the nice guy at around age 28 - 30
It isn't good for either them. Hailey is suffocating as a try-hard (you can't fix the unfixable). Justin is resentful of the entire relationship and lashing out. This isn't healthy for either of them. Wishing them both well.
I honestly feel bad for both of them, I know Justin has his issues and probably this behavior is a result of the abuse he himself has received, but Hailey doesn't deserve it all being taken out on her. They went on that relationship thinking it was going to make their lives perfect. He thought it would make him forget about his past relationship and she thought she was marrying the perfect guy she admired because she idealized him as a former fan. They both deserve better in their own ways, I really hope they realize that.
Agree, this is a very sad but very accurate statement. Many people don’t seem to realize or believe that you can be genuine about a situation you’re not personally involved in without being some kind of hater. 🙄❤
After the Diddy situation, this should be seen entirely different. As someone who was abused as a child, you literally don't know until the day if you want to be touched or hugged or be around other humans. It is so destructive to your thoughts and relationships. I am thankful I have understanding people, but I can see the same type of deflation in my own that Hailey faces when he doesn't want to be touched. We, as humans, crave that type of intimacy...but those of us who have been abused as children...it is stripped from us. If that was one thing I could share with the world and have it understood, it would be that. We can't help it. We heal, but it always lives there. It is always part of us. You can't fault someone for the actions and responses they have ZERO control over.
me and my boyfriend's consensus on the "his crocs" part of your video is: we are literally so poor, we work at the mall and make $16/hr for fucks sake, but if i had something as lame as a speech to do he would definitely make the effort to dress up and rent a suit because believe it or not- it's a form of respect. dressing like that to your partner's event is basically implying it's a casualty and not important. this has nothing to do with his personal style he can dress however he wants, but in this setting it's hella disrespectful. especially when your net worth is $300 million, nothing's stopping you from getting proper attire. that picture so clearly displays he is the farthest thing from a gentleman and a literal man child, as you worded perfectly.
His bumby appearance also seems part of spite he has towards her. Imagine chasing him all those years and he won't even get dressed for you. That's why you don't fall in love with a fantasy.
I don't understand. Justin seems like someone hiding something and crying out for help. Hailey looks like a trapped Stepford wife. People divorce all the time in Hollywood. Why won't they just walk away from this?
She is being emotionally abused, and doesn't even see it. Instead, she just keeps trying to be what she thinks He WANTS, and blames herself for the way he treats her. She need to get out of this marriage otherwise its going mess up her mind for many many years.
It's weird seeing them cz she always looks so put together and he looks homeless 😩she got pregnant after the cassie news broke n Justin's name was thrown in that time too
Hailey did what all of us women do, she was in limerance with Justin and believed he was some "king" and then she realized that he was a man with many many problems. She probably didn't wanna give up on him to save face. Of course because of "love" but definitely because she didn't want to embarrass herself marrying him so quickly and young.
she just keeps giving him more chances so he can keep letting her down over and over again, but she keeps giving him more chances because she desperately wants their love to work
Haley loves Justin more than she loves herself. She's still his 'biggest fan'. Although he wants her to get lost. I can see him yelling at her and calling her stupid and idiot. and other means terms.
@@lastjob2011 he is only mean to her because she is always so sweet to him and he takes her for granted. I bet the second she stops showering him with love and affection his other personality will come out. He will turn on his living side when he feels like he's losing her.
He doesn't love her at all and she is obsessed with him, to be honest I don't know what is worse, together they have created the perfect storm. It is sad to see how he treats her and she never complains because she doesn’t wanna loose him. They are the perfect example of a really toxic relationship.
It's a passport marriage; dnt be fooled! She tried to make him fall in love wt her, but as we can see, she failed miserably. He has too many skeletons in his closet that interfere wt his love life until then, and when he's done, he figured out his issues and deals wt the abuse and raw emotion he goes through
For certain. And now it's coming out that a few of the Karjenner girls took Salena out of the country while the rest of them stayed back to hook their friend Hailey up with Justin & it worked. He loved Salena.
@@BebeBijouexactly what you said and what he said, it was arranged. She is his handler, it is a business contract. Only he wasn’t to ever find out, he did tho. Thats the thing they talk about that made him change his idea of her.
@@andrajurubitamarin5379 I believe they're both miserable don't look happy at all. I believe if you're not happy it's time to let the relationship go or to try to work on it. In my opinion he is trying to get away from Hailey but he can't. I thought she said he is clingy and needy but she looks like the one hanging on.
@@purplemist7 that made her perfect, 1. she gets a marriage with her how-do-you-call-it-guy, 2. Hillside has him under control and he is to used to human/artist traffici g to notice he's being used Bonuspoints: her yachting experience can be forgotten because she is a properly married wife now. And considering tge yachting programmed her to being used, nothing about this arranged marriage (his words) seems strange to eighter of them
Hailey is not innocent. She has been shown many times to shade and outright mock Selena. She's jealous because Justin really loved her. That said, am so glad Selena did not end up with Justin. She seems too sweet to have ended up with such an abuser.
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This should be titled hailey bieber's miserable relationship w justin. Not vese-a-versa
Um..hello..Justin is OBVIOUSLY ipopping pills!!! I know certain pills cause major agitation.. causes irritability. THIS is exactly what we are witnessing.🔴🔴🔴
Um..hello..Justin is OBVIOUSLY ipopping pills!!! I know certain pills cause major agitation.. causes irritability. THIS is exactly what we are witnessing.🔴🔴🔴
He was joking tho
@@zelle8651😅😮😮😮😮
hailey is a classic example of “be careful what you wish for.”
With his name she is able to have a career, nobody knew who she was before Bieber..To me it's pretty clear she's after fame and attention,that's her true drive and that's why she does everything she does..
Oh yeah! I made the same mistake. Not with a celebrity but still I wished for someone, got them & it wasn't exactly the fairy tale I was hoping for😣
No, she’s a classic example of children marrying each other. If she’d waited and been in a few relationships, she’d have gone through the usual cycle of being burned, and learning to see and find the red flags before committing to anyone. And the adults around her failed her, because all they saw was a famous name and a lot of money, instead of an abusive boy with a complicated past he hasn’t fully understood is not an excuse to hurt people in his life.
@@skylar_kada why can’t it be both?
@@pabloescobarschanclas because you can wish for something that’s actually good for you if you’re self aware, love yourself, have a healthy mindset and are a bit mature. You wish for things that aren’t good for you when you don’t know better than to know they’re not good for you. I’ve been there, I’ve learnt, that’s why i make that distinction.
You can tell in her body language how badly she wants to connect with him while he feels suffocated by her.
He is suffocated by his inner self and blames it on the ones around him
She is very insecure in their relationship. So, she clings to him, which causes him to push her away because he has no room to breathe
@@Lemana28021989holy shit…. Thank you for writing this! I think I do this. Reading it how you put it just made a lightbulb go off. Now how do you unsuffocate your inner self
No one knows what goes on in a relationship except the people in it. Sure people can spot toxicity or when something's off but the dynamics outside the public view are unknown.
@@Lemana28021989you nailed it. It’s not her, it’s himself. He was let down by every single person in his life that was supposed to love and protect him and instead threw him to the wolves. He needs help to heal and learn how to love himself.
Guys, remember not to become your partner's full-time caregiver and therapist. There is a difference between supporting a partner in a difficult situation and providing complete care to a functioning adult.
@@mjesns77guys is a universal term and this advice can apply to everyone.
@@La-PetitMort absolutely
Codependency
Easier said than done.
They have the perfect formula for a co-dependent relationship. He at best exhibits narc behaviour and he for sure loves being worshipped and she feels validation through being needed.
She forced love on a man she was obsessed with the idea of, and the idea of how their life looks or would look, and has convinced herself she is happy bc this was her childhood “dream”. But remember that he isn’t a nepotism baby like her, and Selena wasn’t a nepotism baby either, so the disconnect he likely feels after some fan seeing his break up just being “readily available” without any question, without making him work for it, or likely ever setting boundaries for him (bc she wanted to be with him so bad)… these things will NOT build a genuine or solid bond.. she wants what she saw Justin had with Selena in all the kids/teen magazines she read, but you can’t just plant yourself and your ideas of that on someone who was otherwise a stranger to you (apart from you and your famous dad stalking him for years).. she was raised VERY wealthy and sees life from a different lens, in ways I don’t think they could ever connect/bond on fully. He suffered heavy traumas as a child star and likely bonded with Selena over their similar struggles as teen stars who supported their families financially as oppose to her living the exact opposite of that.. Hailey was given everything without having to struggle or work for it, so I could even see him unfairly accepting this relationship, but not respecting her. They both need people who understand them and who they are, to feel seen, truly loved, and understood. I think she has this idea so big in her head she is stuck in believing it now, and he probably feels smothered bc she lurked and was obsessed for so long that I am sure he doubts her love and likely questions if its just obsession, bc would she love him still if he was just an average dude? He isn’t innocent, but I believe both their actions stand from this marriage not sparking from true love but just lust and rebound, but truly someone needs to break this toxic cycle bc it isn’t healthy for either of them and is obviously bringing out the worst of both people.
Best comment out here 🙌🏼
Best comment out here 🙌🏼
Well said that's the perfect summary
You r just a fool
yes
Hailey is a classic case of “I want him regardless if he wants me.”
“If I can’t have him, no one will” typa chick, for sure.
So true!
Part of me feels sorry for her, as watching them makes me feel very so uncomfortable!!!! 😢
However, going back in time, she pursued him, endlessly with a 'mean girl' attitude, as "if he wasn't HER woman, no other woman" can have him! Regardless of the consequences.....
Kinda like in a spoilt brat with a narcissistic manner. Breaking any girl code, I suspect.
Including Being emotionally cruel and showing off at other along the way, with glee.
And therefore, reducing any respect for herself, as merely as, the shameless stalker!!!
She kinda oozes a jealousy and clinginess about her. I think she may have some regrets about, the lengths she went to, to procure him, as her "ultimate prize'....
She certainly did dish some nasty stuff out herself, along the way!
Obviously, in the long term, she done herself, no favours.😑
This is what happens when a narcissist, claims, a prime narcissist, as their 'prize" goal......
Justin will now say he feels 'trapped' and then justify his lashing out at her.
This relationship is toxic, and sadly looks like a car crash, for all involved 😢
I don’t agree, I think she loves him and stands by her commitment. Not everyone runs away at the first sign of trouble.
She does love him. Fans do love their celeb crush and dream to be with them forever lol. Is probably why they take the abuse just to be with their crush. So yeah she'll never leave. @jetmechgirl9022
It sucks to be married to someone who acts like an enemy.
The fact that he's not at all protective of her gives me such a bad feeling.
She trashed a good-hearted, innocent person - they destroyed her ,almost killed her ... they deserve everything bad! Hope Miss trashybieber gets all the worse of Justin side!👌😘
He’s definitely her worst enemy. He didn’t even defend her a year ago when the whole Hailey vs Selena stuff was happening. If I was her that would’ve been the last straw for me
Its the loneliest feeling in the world when you are married to someone and you realize they don’t love you, after years of that checked-out bare minimum attitude
@@vr8921she was so dead set on being Mrs Beibs she CHOSE to look past the incompatibility. She made her bed.
When he slammed the car door in her face, he meant it. There are no excuses for him. It doesn't matter how he was brought up or what he does for a living, he's just a human being and knows better. He's an entitled, and clearly abusive, jerk.
He even admitted that he „was“ abusive „in the past“ and with these videos I can’t imagine he changed much
Justin acts like a real immature jerk and needs to treat Hailey a lot better. He doesn't even let her into the vehicle first, showing complete lack of manners. I hope Hailey is truly happy because if not, don't waste the best years of your life on a man who doesn't truly love you.
or it's reactive abuse because he is actually being abused and manipulated gaslighted by her and his family and he is catching on....
as a victim of abuse your comments are absolute bullshit. Yes he could just be a abusive dickhead but I can think of plenty of times either myself or somebody I know acts out and reacts in a way that seems abusive and sure maybe it is without context of the person reaching their absolute limit mentally from intense psychological, physical and/or financial abuse.
I am not saying I know for certain but I know you saying there is no reason is bullshit people can't always handle the stress of constant abuse and react abusively to their abuser.
@@b.biscuit6424 and in what way they could abuse justin, hailey's father wanted money and haley wanted bieber, and justin freely accepted the marriage, he had no reason to be in trap since he has the power
@@Meow45146 Exactly I don't believe that he is being abused more like he is the aggressive one. He never treated Selena well either so it is a trait of his. In Selena song about him she mentions how he wasn't nice to her either, probably why they kept breaking up.
Damn the "Baby I wasn't trying!" Voice scare the shit outta me. So much anger. Lmao
He was having a rage.. and I bet he gave her the silent treatment for days after that....and I bet she was the one grovelling for his attention again.
@@StephP2025”I bet” “I bet” “I bet” yeah you bet cause you have no idea of their life 😭😂
Idk Justin's relationship history, but he comes off as the guy who will push you away, avoiding the brake up so that you will hopefully do it for him.
Do what for him though? (Idgi) ://
Break up with him (you mean?) ://
@@abbied do the breaking up. In this case, it would be divorce or separation in the technical. If you act like an a-hole, the person on the receiving end might end it, so you don't have to be the one ending it.
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat That’s why Selena Gomez broke up with him to begin with 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️😭😭😭😭
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat When’s Biebs gonna learn (or is he ever?) That boy needed a father but if you research it his father is an even bigger piece of work than Biebs (so I don’t totally blame him) but yeah 🤧😭
I don't know how Hailey deals with all this, it's so embarrassing and literally the whole world knows about it. I'd die.
Love makes you delulu 🤷🏻♀️
@@jaclynns.jungleno. no it doesn’t. maybe this “you give me just enough attention to get my hopes up” type of “love” but not real mutual love
Totally agree. She seems delusional and defends him. It really is embarrassing, even just the fact that he truly never looks happy with her and has never looked at her the way he looked at Selena. Not saying I want him and Selena together, but just saying that I almost feel bad for her. She should want more for herself.
@@twothousandandchew did I say it was healthy? No I did not babe. When you're that in love and obsessed, you don't see the red flags. It's not that deep.
She thinks she’s living the y/n dream. She literally married her idol. Maybe she’s trying to make it last. Idk.
I remember someone going into how Hailey’s parents have this dynamic. Her father was a mess and her mother was his caretaker. We often seek out relationships with those who mirror that of our parents. This isn’t healthy. A parent/child dynamic in a romantic partnership is usually incredibly imbalanced when it comes to equality within the relationship. It takes a great deal of awareness and intent to dismantle it.
If she saw her mom being treated like this, that would explain a lot.
Amen 👏 100%
The rumor is that Justin needed to get married because of visa problems, something about him losing a lot of royalty money if he was forced to go back to Canada. At the same time Stephen Baldwin almost went bankrupt or worse due to tax-debt.
Then all of a sudden Justin proposes to Selena who declines, and then he's quickly married to Hailey while Stephen's tax debt got paid off. The story is that it was paid off with Justin's money in exchange for the visa-marriage.
I have dificulty in connecting with other people cuz of how my parents treat me.
In my case, I never want to find the same relationship they have, prefer to be alone.
@@GraceOfTheAtlantic thank you for bringing this up. I'm surprised Sloan didn't mention this aspect.
He's grossly disrespectful. I think it's horrible to treat your wife like that..
Exactly, I've never been a fan of him. What a brat
You don't have to like Hailey as a person to know that no one deserves to be publicly disrespected and humiliated by their spouse. His behavior is childish and abusive. He's allowed to be mad, depressed, whatever for his own valid reasons but he's NOT entitled to take it out on his wife. It's obvious she's a "fixer" and probably very codependent, especially if she grew up watching her dad treat her mom the way Justin treats her. She allows it because it feels "normal", plus she was in love with him for so many years so admitting he's an asshole and she made a huge mistake would be too painful. I've been there myself. I've been the caretaker girlfriend who put up with disrespect, verbal abuse, lack of effort, etc b/c I loved him and my self-worth was so low I didn't think I deserved any better. Hopefully as she gets older she will realize she deserves better than a slob in sweatpants who yells at her in public.
Yep. She’s his punching bag. He knows she won’t leave him
I dislike women who cheat with men who are taken and she says she is Christian come on let's be real she is just loves him for what he can give her and her whole family and Justin are narcissistic
He’s a crappy human, and has been for a long time. No idea how anyone can worship him like some of his fans do. He’s an insufferable entitled man-child who only cares about himself. She may not be perfect, and has her own flaws, but Justin’s behavior is 100% that of an abuser, and that behavior is never justified.
And this is only the stuff that is done in the public eye. Anyone who has ever been in an abusive relationship knows that if THIS is the behavior shown in public, there is WAY worse abuse going on behind the privacy of closed doors. I hope Hailey finds the strength to recognize that this isn’t the treatment she deserves from her spouse. It’s not normal, and it will never be justifiable.
Justin Beiber was the most passed around childhood star to ever exist in the industry. He was taken advantage by nearly every major adult in his life. He was abused…hurt people hurt others
@joannmontoya7185 this part
Him saying it was arranged marriage is so embarrassing. I could die if I was his wife
It’s pretty common in a lot of cultures not anything to be embarrassed about.
@@Mysteriousmything242The fact that Justin didn’t actually fully choose to be with her himself if true.. yes. Can be seen as embarassing to most.
Oh I'd divorce him in a hot second.
She must have known that she is second choice
@@loracash3693He still won't choose SG though.
I'm not a fan of any of these people but damn, I feel bad for Hailey. He treats her like an enemy, not a wife. She got herself a spoiled son, not a husband.
Don’t feel too bad, she bullies his ex on social media, total mean girl vibes. They may just be perfect for each other… he’s just used to cameras and she’s trying to pretend she’s a good girl still.
I feel sooo bad 4 her, she def deserves better😢
@@jessikadeline7492Nah mean girls deserve this treatment honestly. Used to feel bad for her cuz she chose a grown child for a husband but bullying people online and also home-wrecking so you can be famous is wild to me… They deserve each other. He seems miserable because of choice he made and she seems miserable because of choices she’s made.
@@The.Hawaiian.KingdomI mean can you blame her? I don’t support it at all, but do you even see the extremes of this situation and how that could impact someone’s mental? Put yourself in her shoes and just imagine.
@@Aylii1
You’re being a hypocrite. You can’t say _”I don’t support it at all”_ yet try to justify it… that’s in fact supporting it.
Yes I can blame her, she’s an adult, have you forgotten she’s married?!?!
Children being bully’s is bad, adults being bully’s is disgusting, immature, childish, and pathetic.
You can’t take your pain out on others, especially not people completely innocent in a situation & manipulating others to join in on you bullying is even worse.
That’s some high school mean girls bs.
HE HAS BEEN ABUSED, SEXUALLY TRAUMATIZED BY MEN, AND WOMEN, THEREFORE HE'S SEXUALLY CONFUSED, MISPLACING HIS ANGER😢
So True... he's need somebody to talk to him...not talk at him 😔💯
100% truth
He needs a lot of therapy its so sad what these grown up dogs did to hom
Bingo.. Many years of Abuse.. 😢
Yeah I wonder how we would deal with going through that, glad he's got someone to love him through his darkest moments and stick by his side
I was in a toxic relationship and I know exactly how it feels to be treated like this, terrible flash backs, just don’t…..
Me too! So sorry you also experienced this. It takes a long time to process and recover from.
B
Same
I was once as well. I hope Hailey finds happiness elsewhere. I don't think Justin treats her very well.
yeah I totally see it also. I am still in it unfortunately
It’s not Hailey’s job to help Justin grow up. If he can’t change, she should leave…
Yeah, this idea that our husbands mental health should come before ours is really weird. Goes back to this idea that women are FOR men. What’s sad to me is that her parents taught her that shit, that’s where we all learn what our “roles” are supposed to be. Parents should be teaching boys and girls to know that the social roles that currently exist are not nature….there’s a more sinister reason for gender roles. Maybe that way boys and girls can each grow up to recognize red flags instead of playing a role and staying in abusive situations.
Ya, that's how mentally stable ppl think. Haileys mom takes care of her dad just like this. This woman isn't going anywhere, she loves controlling justin. He even said she keeps him in a straight line cuz of her strict ways
She can't. He has something on her. Something BAD. So if she leaves so can no longer keep track of what he says. That's why no one else is intervening because they know what she did.
And it's not his job to entertain an abusive stalker like her.
It’s also not okay to smother someone when they’re begging for space. Being too clingy is just as bad. What about the way she speaks for him? It can go both ways
The very fact that he walks off (or rides off) without her, leaving her behind instead of walking with her, hand on her back, protecting her, is a HUGE red flag. 🤦🏻♀️☹️
And he walks in front of her not even behind her. His back faces her face. He's not behind her being protective.
Tells me he’s emotionally immature and too consumed with himself to nurture a relationship or care about her
I mean at this point everything he's ever done is a massive red flag (he even treats Kendall Jenner (his ex girlfriend) more respectfully than to Hailey so yeah)
@@PolyglotJyea omg the way he acted all giddy and almost flirtatious towards Kendall! And he asks her if she saw him & hailey happening? Almost like it’s a sideshow spectacle like he legit acts like she’s a joke..no wonder people disrespect her. And he kept blocking hailey from the camera on the zoom with Kendall. I don’t even like Hailey but damn, that’s just super sad. Also, I think he needed an ego boost and a rebound to take his mind off things after his breakup with Selena so he chose the pretty somewhat famous fan of his. That’s fine but it should’ve ended there. I think he doesn’t respect her because he doesn’t look at her like she’s on his level and he probably thinks he’s doing her a service just being with her. He’s such a child..I can’t believe he calls himself a husband 🙄
@@valleyofashesi get that ur mad but writing a whole ass essay is just super shocking. i understand ur frustration though
I cannot sympathize with someone who stalked the man for 10years and jumped on him as soon as Selena was in the rehab.
I can. Everyone here is very broken, including Hailey. That’s why she makes bad calls. It’s sad.
Selena isn't the innocent sweet little girl she portrays to be. She is a cheater herself.
@@vaishnavigosain7197who did she cheat on lmao
@@vaishnavigosain7197 Selena didn't cheat lol
She and The Weeknd obviously used each other to make their exes jealous
The Weeknd was the one who broke up with her and he also got back with Bella Hadid 1 week after their breakup
The Weeknd just fell in love and realized it too late
The line 'I said I didn't feel nothing baby but I lied' from Call Out My Name and 'Regret I didn't tell you,Now I can't keep you from loving him' from Out Of Time basically confirms that
@@vaishnavigosain7197She’s always given me secret mean girl vibes (or at least, very moody and only cares about catering to her own mood vibes), and then one of my friends said they briefly knew her a couple years ago and said she was snotty, mopey, and rude.
Wasn’t surprised about it.
So glad none of my toxic relationship was documented, filmed or photographed and put online. Being in the spotlight is overrated! How heartbreaking for her 💔
Same!
No te preocupes Hailey no conoce la verguenza.
She also literally stalked him for years so I dont feel to bad for her
She stalked him and wanted the attention
If she has a prenup she can just leave and still has money, good to go. Or does she automatically get half of his money?
It's definitely giving "mother-son" energy. Justin literally acts like my 14 year old son.
@@RSUDE that's why they say you stay at the age you were when you got famous
@@jaclynns.jungle yep!I was just about to comment something similar, he definitely still seems to be a teenager mentally
@@RSUDEregression ? u mean just stay the same. who didn’t start sucking his thumb googoogagaing wtf😭
Arrested development definitely
i think it’s be he don’t like her ass🤣
I hope she leaves him, starts a business, falls in love with someone who adores her and she looks at this marriage as a horrible phase.
She dated Drake when she was 17. If she wanted security and helping her father she would definitely stay.👿
@@stephaniemartinsfachadaShe made poor choices regarding her personal relationships , and hurry in to this marriage but I believe she would find out by herself that's she deserves a mutual relationship and marriage, but not this one ! Some people when they are to young make poor decisions in their lives and then realized once they're ready to grow up mentally and emotionally!
And I hope her new man’s a billionaire.
I think this is a great example of men who break up and immediately jump into another relationship without processing their emotions or healing, but inflated x10000 and in the public eye.
He did it just to hurt Selena G but currently she's with Benny B & that's better
Sounds like women to me
Exactly
@@GODSSOILDER888both genders do this it’s just something people who don’t slow down and reflect will jump to
Nailed it
I laughed out loud when you quoted her saying that she couldn’t leave him because she’s loved him for a very long time. Longer than he’s even known that she existed.
“ I stalked him too much and put too much on the line to stop now” is what i hear
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
Sunk cost fallacy.
Sunk cost fallacy, so sad.
cash money @@Gvnglvnd_MJ-Upgradez
She is going to write one hell of a book when (and if) they divorce.
Very thick and a 2pt story. 😂
I'm waiting for it lol
It will be a picture book...all of her with her tongue out and finger up and butt out...the religious side of her.
lol I think both of them will lol 😂
my first thought as she was lying through her teeth about how great he treats her
Also shame on the public for their infantile behavior. Grown ass man chanting Selena Gomez at her??
Hailey is a stalker. And, the relationship blossomed from that. Hailey copied many, many, many things Selena did. I think that once Justin found out about all of what Hailey had done-Justin became disillusioned and completely devastated, and it took a toll on his health.
They are married, but that marriage ended a long time ago. That's a toxic mess. Selena dodged a bullet!
She did dodge a bullet, but she’s toxic too! She just tries harder not to be than he does. Which is respectable
@@TT.3123 Yeah she actually tried to heal and do the heavy lifting after they broke up with each other (while Justin didn’t) that’s a difference 👌🏻✔️
@@TT.3123 Justin has codependency issues but it makes sense I guess bc he’s an addict 😕🤷🏻♀️
Sounds like the honeymoon phase was over a few years ago. He's too narcissistic--she's screwed. I hope she gets out (and I'm not a fan)--she deserves better. If he's acting like this in public with no shame, it's absolutely worse in private. She's already having to defend him all the time like she's trauma bonded. Hope she educates herself so she can understand what's really going on!
@@abbied and it seems like because Hailey watched her mom go through the same thing with her dad, she is playing that role for Justin as well
I got “arranged” vibes when Steve Baldwin was acting so interested in Justin during that brief interview and like he didn’t recall his previous interaction with Justin. Like Steve didn’t just forget that, he knew what he was doing.
Literally, bcs Hailey's dad got tonnes of debt & Justin B is the one who can paid it off
💯💯
Creepy scene, fckn hell, he looked like he was hungry and wanted to eat the boyy.... Huuhg!
That's when the plan started
Yep..she was groomed to be his handler...and he wasn't supposed to realise.
Its simple. Her dad saw Justin as an opportunity. Her dad was in pretty bad financial debt, that eventually his new son-in-law paid for.
sounds logical
Wrong and ridiculous. Evidence for this hypothesis please? If you make the claim the burden of proof is on you.
Facts!!! 🗣️🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯💯
I totally agree with you
That's what i think...
What I think is. Haley is just convenience for Justin. She's there when he wants her and when he doesn't want her then he doesn't want her. He knows she's not going anywhere so he just takes advantage of that.
I feel like this relationship is a ‘be careful for what you wish for’ situation for Hailey. She went after him hard that’s obsession not love
Not just her (but also her father even moreso actually) 😂😂😂😂
You don’t really know somebody until you move into together. Time will reveal everything, the good and the bad.
That's exactly what I said a few minutes ago before I saw this comment.
Abuse will never be the victims fault, but nice try
@@meliss9536 can you read? The person didn't say it's her fault, just that some things in life are beyond what we actually know and she learned it as the most painful lesson because he revealed himself as a abusive piece of shit
I feel like JB has gone through so much trauma from being famous so young & they say trauma freezes you at the age you experience it. And for a partner to bear that kind of weight in a marriage is really hard.
Is there a way to overcome the age freeze?
@@elleelleelleelle_______totally with good therapy
Therapy
Inner child work and therapy
@bayleymacintosh5622 yes! Also presence can help him with that anxiety he feels. I really think he needs help from what he experienced when with Diddy.
Anybody who has known or been in an emotionally or physically abusive relationship knows that the one receiving the abuse will always talk highly of their abuser until they are ready to speak up
Yes
Ok... let's see if or how Justin will talk about P.Diddy
You don’t know them though so you don’t know anything about their marriage. Facts are awesome
@@miggs80 no one knows exactly but Hailey said it herself early in their marriage that she couldn't do it any longer.. apparently her mother told her to hang in there. From my knowledge no marriage should make you feel that way.
Yep!❤❤❤
She stalked him; now she got him & realised he was not all his cracked up to be!!!😂😂😂😂😅😅😅
More like cracked out to be 😅
Yeah that’s why she’s still with him and taking it all lol
😂😂 she have not see anything yet
Not quite related to their marriage, but Justin was so polite and nice when he met her dad on that carpet. I'm just so used to him being a rude adult now. It's so jarring. He seemed like a sweet kid once upon a time. It's a shame what's happened since then.
I’m not excusing his behavior, but he was molested and sexually assaulted by various higher-ups in Hollywood
When the entire world normalizes a kid being molested and harassed, the kid loses faith in the world.
He was, but I think Hollywood destroyed him. All that celebrity lifestyle, touring, adults grooming him since he was a little kid, not being able to go outside like a normal person would, to have genuine friendships and relationships, all while having that amount of money... that has to take a toll on you, especially when you're so young. I don't excuse his behaviour, but I do have empathy for that. I think there is a very, very small amount of people who would be able to handle all that and not turn into a shell of a human being.
That's what Hollywierd does to you and probably bad or neglectful parents.
He needs to get out of there and tones of therapy.
Sexual abuse/rape and being exploited by everyone around you does that to a person. He's the product of unimaginable abuse and suffering. He's no meaner to Hailey than he is himself.
In my head, Hailey is a spoiled rich brat who got asked one time in her teenage years “what do you want for Christmas darling” and she answered “I want Justin Bieber” and ever since her father was on the quest to set up “random” meetings between them
YES!!! Exactly!!!
It’s giving “I want the golden egg daddy”
Facts lol
No i think you guys need to grow up....justin is the problem here period
@@PinkkBarbie Justin has been exploited for years and years by grown men and women. I really do understand that he got a ton loads of issues he has to deal with. But I’m still pretty sure Hailey is not innocent either lol
Flirting with your ex who is also your wife’s best friend in front of your wife on a live in front of all your fans is craaaaaazy
Yesss 💯💯
If u want a divorce get it dont humiliate your wife or a use her dont care about Justin's change of heart grow up act like a man dont be cruel dont gossip let it go that's respect u rich folks need to grow up show sum respect😊
Huh? 😂
How was he flirting? You know you can tell someone that they're beautiful, and it doesn't automatically mean "i want you"..
Considering how his whole sex life was messed up with his life, if live sex and tryst loyalty are all messed up. He probably really loves her, but his demons are catching up to him.
Sloannnnnm!!! You should remake this with the new information you have about diddy
It doesn’t change this. I’ve been a fan of Justin since he first rose to fame. I stuck by him for years even when the headlines were bad. It was *heartbreaking* to find out about what happened to him, and I can’t imagine what it must have been like to deal with that and fame. That being said, it doesn’t excuse his behavior toward Hailey. It’s just not ok and there’s no excuse for him treating her like this.
@lxdykxt7769 what lol
I feel SO BAD for Hailey in terms of her relationship with Justin. I hope one day she can leave and find someone who will love her the way she wants to be.
But why feel bad for her?? She knew what she was getting herself into.
Well, also Justin should’ve legitimately matured before he got married in the first place honestly.
She destroyed someone else’s relationship you really think she was going to end in a happily ever after ??😅😅😅 yeah no.
@@jms5752 Exactly! I follow this couple about as much as I follow the latest updates on Chinese Basketweaving Techniques, but in the times I do happen across something about these two, I've never seen anyone say that she is actually a nice person. Quite the opposite - all I've ever read is about her being a really mean person.
@jms5752 i don't like hailey but blaming the victim is insane justin is a master manipulator he clearly gaslights her
I've dated someone like this. They lower your self esteem more and more day by day. I was also codependent and afraid to be alone. I hope she leaves asap and grows into the strong woman she is.
Same 😢
Same here 😢
Same!!!
Soon after I married felt it was the wrong guy but I said well, I’m in it now, I made a commitment. My parents were divorced and I didn’t want that. Stuck it out for 10 years. Divorce was terrible after having children. I should have ended it immediately.
What's worse is everyone knows it and is waiting for it to end. It's like watching a car crash about to happen.
Similar story. I'm still working on forgiving myself for my mistakes.
@@JMarie-th8xeI feel you … same here … Don’t be too hard on yourself :)
The double taxation causes affliction on the marriages. Most cookbooks have bad recipes that have to be corrected for errors and that creates embarrassment for the wife, which is not her fault. Schools don't teach about marriage, there's no sex education to make the marriage stronger, no training to circumvent corruption in government or the workplace which puts spouses on edge. Marriage is so difficult to navigate for both parties
They rushed into this marriage.Hailey knew he had trauma & she is not a doctor .I know she loves him .But should have waited untill he was healed & not jumped into a marriage.She admit that she has been in love with him for a long time.I feel it for her. But she knew what she was getting into.She deserved someone who loves her the same way.Hailey just need to walk away because cleary Justin does not love her the way she loves him.I think her parents had alot to do with this arranged marriage.Justin is cleary unhappy & so is Hailey.Hailey needs to love herself & should find her true love because she deserve to be happy & loved
The sad truth in all of this is that Justin was abused, ruined and chewed up and spit out by the industry. The world put him on a pedestal when he was only a little kid and getting married so quickly has just delayed his healing process. I honestly feel really bad for him, looking at those videos of him flipping out reminds me of a damaged little boy and sadly that’s something Haley will never understand. It will take YEARS for him to come to terms with the trauma that occurred in his childhood, he may not ever get over it. Hopefully he starts to gradually dilute himself out of the industry and live his life privately so he can finally be at peace.
No excuse for crap behaviour!
The craziest part of this video to me is that her mom advised her to stick it out.
Yeah… it makes sense that Hailey married someone like Justin with her own mother telling her it’s okay to be mistreated..
Bcs Hailey's dad & mum needed that money
Hailey is Justin's handler.She is friends with the Kards who are friends to Lou Taylor(loves to come in and pretend to help celebs then puts them in abusive conservatorship from which she profits)
Lou Taylor orchestrated the Britney conservatorship.
Her 600mil plus is still missing.
Both her parents push it. It's not a love connection for either. Now that the Puffy Combs stuff is coming out...he's probably got a lot of bad things on his heart & head that he was put thru at age 14. He was sent to live with Combs by his Mom. He needs to deal with all that so he can grow past it. Get a divorce already.
H parents set
them up
Everyone deserves someone who actually wants to be with them. They need to stop prolonging the inevitable. You don’t get time back.
Very true!
I think he needs 5 yrs for citizenship
Lol 😂 yessss🎉
Its almost like Justin refuses to admit his mistake because of his narcissistic ways
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
Marriage isn’t easy, but it shouldn’t be this hard….
Especially not when they’re still so young and it’s still so early on! Like… if you’re having problems this extreme in the first few years of marriage, it’s INCREDIBLY unlikely that things are going to get any better… I don’t care what their biggest defenders (people majorly in denial, really) say, there’s no way anyone actually sees these two together in old age.
Honestly, marriage is the easiest thing in the world if you're with a person who loves and cherishes you and vice versa.
This is the perfect comment.
I would resent her too if she stalked me for 10 fucking years while copying my ex down to her tattoos, and fooled me into marrying her. Can’t imagine the horror when he found out
When he woke up and realized! 😳🤯
@@Brandoncye I hope they figure it out!
There was a Reddit thread that this girl posted and she said that her boyfriend was doing things like joking around and hitting her but when he hit her in these joking moments, she said that it actually really hurt, and she finally got tired of him doing it and called him out on his behavior, saying in a polite way that you know it was really hurtful, and she didn’t think it was funny and he blew up on her. He called her crazy. He accused her of saying she was going to tell everyone he was abusive and make him out to be some monster. He suggested they go for a walk to have this conversation but instead, she decided to stay in a safe place on their front porch in front of a camera, and it recorded this huge blowup of him behaving this way when he was called out for his “joking“ abuse. I hope no one ever accepts someone hitting you and then laughing and saying it’s a joke.
THIS abusive people love to use "jokes" to disguise their abuse
That’s a narcissist
It's called gaslighting.
@@1Skorpia wow lol thanks I’ve never heard of that before lol
Was this guys name Jeremy perhaps?
I think Hailey and her family were very calculated and knew exactly what they were doing. They met him, waited until him and Selena broke up and he was super vulnerable. They probably pressured him into moving fast and getting married and then trapping him down to management, marriage, maybe blackmail, etc. Now they’ve pushed him to the point where he can’t even play nice in public anymore. He has dropped several hints that it has all been arranged from the beginning and he is not happy. I honestly don’t even think Justin has any control over his own life.
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
The Baldwins are a Bad Bunch.
Irish-American Mafia family.
That doesn’t make sense to me. Justin alone has more resources than that family. He has far more agency and free than you make him out, here. No one forced him to do anything.
the family is connected@@revenge0lobster
@@revenge0lobstertrauma bond
This is what I honestly think. I think Justin was abused in the industry and during that turmoil took all his anger and abuse out on Selena as an outlet of what he was going through internally. I think to get away from these tormenting thoughts, he thought getting married would help heal him. Per his friend, he asked Selena first and she didn’t think they were ready. He got mad at the rejection, and per an interview he had, he was not afraid to ask Hailey became he knew she would say yes. Basically the marriage didn’t help him the way he thought it would and he never had closure with Selena. He broke down when he found out she was hospitalized for a mental breakdown knowing he probably helped cause that. He’s never truly dealt with what has happened to him or opened up about it and he’s never had the chance to tell Selena that he was sorry. I think he’s carrying all that mental baggage around and living in that misery and Hailey gets to go along for this ride. He needs to get help and he can’t be a good partner until he does.
THIS
I think this is spot on. Justin proposed to Haley out of spite, and Haley probably said yes because she had genuine love for him. It would explain the weird asf timeline of Justin being with Selena and then being engaged to Hailey so quickly. And it wasn't until they tied the knot that he realized he had made a mistake. Marriage didn't heal him and he probably still had lingering love for Selena. He tried to get over one situation (Selena) by going into another (Haley), but it probably didn't work and just made him worse. But being a devout Christian, he probably is trying his best to take his marriage seriously... even if that means being in an unhappy marriage. This all would explain his fluctuating dislike for Hailey... like "I'm stuck with you" vibes... It's pretty sad for Hailey because she probably went into this with genuine intentions. JB screwed both Selena and Hailey over, and the world pins the girls to one another, when they really should be faulting JB for this mess.
Thanks Diddy...
@@May17760This reality is so sad .. 🥺
He missin Diddy and Usher 😂
It's obvious how he acts, how he dresses ,the things he says he is checked out....when you look back on videos with him and Selena, he looks genuinely happy.
From an outsider, this marriage is just an arrangement I feel bad for both of them. They both deserve to be w a partner that mutually loves, truly loves and respects each other.i hope they both find true love again.
I loved my ex so much but clearly far more than he loved me. Seeing Hailey looking at Justin with so much love whilst he just looks miserable, it reminds me of my past. Thank god im out and on the road to healing!
Yeah I'm in the same position in a toxic relationship also I really want to get out of my relationship already
Yeah some people truly aren't capable of ever loving anyone besides themselves. They literally are just incapable of it. They will always love themselves first, everything will always be about them. They might love you as much as they are capable of but it will never be the type of love you give them and what you deserve. It will never be a healthy relationship or a healthy love.
@WhitneyDahlin yeah that's totally true I agree with you a 💯 percent 👍 on that
@@WhitneyDahlin Is it true that Justin and Hailey are getting a divorce 😳
@@LeighanneOrtiz idk! I've heard rumors about that too! If you hear anything for sure come back and comment again to let us know
This is clear abuse and what kind of mother tells her daughter it will pass when she was clearly crying out for help!! And those little monster tweens yelling and booing her on the red carpet are just evil little gremlins!
Hailey knew exactly what she was doing stalker
I don't think you're wrong and sounds like the whole family was in on the stalking. I am not a fan of either but having her mum say that to her daughter when it sounded ike she wanted out is just awful. @@dawnmaiorano8421
The kind of mother who was probably also abused and thinks it’s normal. The Baldwins deserve a case study of their own.
They sounded alot older than monster tweens smh
this is what happens when the ideals of being a trophy wife, or even a nuclear family is glorified lol
This is disgusting, I would drag my daughter ( don’t care how old she was) out of a relationship if I had seen or heard the dreadful way Justin is treating her !
Yeah yeah everyone says that
Her father would Never allow her to quit.
She was a yacht girl. She’s used to being humiliated.
Her daddy was the biggest encouraging factor. Justin could do anything to her and as long as daddy can say she’s married to Justin, and he could brag about it, he wouldn’t care. He started pushing Hailey on Justin, when they were both babies. The long term plan, with sad consequences
Exactly!
I think people need to realise that if he was genuinely abused he would be dealing with a lot of anger and mixed emotions.
I think Hailey knows all this is sticking by him regardless of his problems.
Imagine stepping out and constantly being photographed, questioned and harassed.
I really hope things work out between them
I've been with my husband 14 years and listen marriage should never be this hard 😢
The narcissistic smirk on Justin after he said "they were asking me" when he realized it made Hailey uncomfortable....
Lol narcissistic? You really gave in into hayleys narrative. Its the other way around. Shes a predator and a manipulator. I would hate her too if i fell into her trap and lost control of my life.
There's a huge difference between being an emotionally unstable man and being an emotionally mature man. An emotionally mature man can talk about his feelings and explain them, an emotionally unstable man just lashes out and uses anger as the only feeling he knows how to express. That anger hides fear, sadness and other emotions that emotionally unstable men don't want to show.
Insightful! In other news, there's a huge difference between a dog and a cat, and between up and down! Easy to confuse them, but there actually are many subtle differences.
Apples to oranges
This was a beautiful explanation
@@Adelicowsyou actually belittled her very insightful comment. It's not cats and dogs😼
I always had the vibe he married her to upset Selena and spite her. In a narcissistic fashion. Justin definitely has the traits but then again Hailey can be toxic too with her entitlement to put other women down. Perfect for one another lol
All I can say is even on our worst days my husband still never would treat me disrespectful in public. That would give other people the impression they don't have to respect me and he ain't playing about that. He will go down for me to be respected regardless whats going on at home. And any man who really loves someone will act the same way
Absolutely! Just the clip of him getting out of the car and trying to close the door and stomping away without her like my husband would never even walk ahead of me like that. And he’s never said anything negative about me to anyone like this has to hurt her so much I can’t imagine.
I know it. Obviously her dad had a reason to get her with him so I'm sure there is something in it for her but still. My husband and I will go toe to toe in private but in public no way! In public everyone around me best come with respect! And he will set the tone for that no matter what. What's sad is the example they set for young females and what they will except as love
Ť@@kikisimmz
Correct.
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
bro she's literally lying when she talks about how he treats her. girl we've SEEN the disrespect. she's defending him because she's always been obsessed and now that they're married she doesn't want to let that go!
literally lmfao she starts moving her hands around n looking away as soon as she starts talking about how he supposedly treats her good
Hailey thinks this is a Wattpad y/n type of shit lol
Yeah I doubt he treats her like a princess 👸 everyday
She doesn’t think she’s lying. She’s delusional/in love. She’s not seeing things clearly cuz she’s in it. We’ve all had a friend like this.
@@fleshandgloryi do that’s naturally doesn’t mean im lying
Her saying they have a loving relationship at home is so spot on to a toxic relationship.. Of course you have good times, many people do in their toxic relationships, but she rarely smiles and I see the pit in her stomach in the pictures from her skin care release.. I have had that pit before. It's like she is embarrassed, but also has to deal with not pissing off her husband who seems to be on edge all the time. I can tell that moment was taken from her.
She's definitely always walking on eggshells with his bipolar ass 😬
Girls lie . Wives lie to keep from looming like idiots. I've seen it all the time. They know they should leave but DONT. I'm guessing because it's the perks of being his wife. Like being invited to the met. Hailey by herself would NEVER have gotten it .
He gets upset for various personal individual reasons... But Essentially he knows to spite the Publics assumptions and storytime perception... She's with him for more sinister reasons and absolutely not primarily because of their true love and shared affection... Why is she always with him it's beyond clingy it's as though she's his handler mind control manager 🤨... All Eyes* Open✔️💚➖🌐➖💚
@@Gvnglvnd_MJ-Upgradez 👀🎯🎯🎯🎯
She always smiles 😂 Y’all are beyond delusional
They act like they never slept together before marriage lol
Look into that summer that Bieber spent with Diddy. People who are sexually abused often stop maturing at the age the abuse happened. Bieber was 15 when Diddy disappeared with him and then said he had "guardianship" over him.
Yup.
Poor justin😢
Sloan made a video that touched on that briefly, hopefully he makes an in depth video on that
Never heard of that. Is there a video about it?
I grew up listening to PUFF DADDY and loved him as a kid. He was the hype man for Bad Boy Ent. But I remember that reality TV show he did with the girl group, Making of the band, I think it was. I saw his true colors on that show. Like Kanye, he thinks he's God and everyone should kneel down before him. He's an authoritarian personality with too much power. Puff is a bad guy.
This is what happens when you think he is the prize. It’s sad to see but she’ll never leave him bc of how hard/long she’s worked to get him
He has always been so overrated in every way.
Based on this vid, he'll either get caught cheating or just straight up and leave her. The lack of care and disrespect shown towards her so far would cause a lot of women to leave, so if she hasn't by now, she won't.
I agree with you
You sound jealous...how does anyone predict how a relationship is gonna turnout until you are in it
Have you never been in a relationship...@@milarsejemba313
It was honestly so sad seeing Hailey and Justin being treated so horribly on the Met Gala red carpet. It was just cruel. Regardless of anyone's opinion, they're real people with real feelings. It's their life and choices and people need to accept it.
Yeah that was petty as hell
And Haley looked SO beautiful! I bet she had been so excited getting ready and arriving, just to be abused in her and Justin’s moment.
Like you said they are real people with real feelings. They should also treat people kindly and maybe people won’t feel the “need” to say their peace to them. Not saying they deserve everything negative that comes their way but they definitely are petty and open the door for some of it to boomerang back to their doorstep. They are definitely not innocent!
What people don’t get about marriage is it’s hard, it’s real life. They’re humans, he’s got health problems and she’s stuck by him. People throw stones but they’re obviously committed. No ones perfect and no relationship is perfect. I can’t get behind wishing ill on a marriage.
@@ms_violet_majestyyeah but that doesn’t mean people have to start yelling at them selena’s name and being straight up mean to hailey especially in person. that’s just immature and rude to do to anyone in general
I appreciate your soft touch as a a commentator.
Justin with his eyes looking to completely opposite sides and saying "lIsTeN tO mE wOmAn" is the way I see every misogynistic man on the internet.
That clip of people chanting at Hailey will never not be devastating. I cannot even imagine. That is something most of the world could never even imagine having to deal with.
snap out of delusion, all of it is a child’s play in comparison to what people go through during wars.
@@mjesns77Doesn't make it any less wrong or bad even if she is a celebrity
@@dannyS-bv6fz Yeah, but that's also very dismissive of what she's gone through. Just because she hasn't e experienced worse things and war doesn't mean that her experiences are not bad/healthy or that it doesn't matter. Thousands of women and men go through this everyday, not to mention children as well.
I was with my very toxic ex for two years who I met when I moved away to go to college. Towards the end of our relationship, I found out that he treated his ex before me just as horrible. Looking back, I realize that he took so much of his anger and hurt from losing his long term relationship out on me. I’ve been through it and I have a really strong feeling that it’s exactly the same way with Hailey. Toxic, immature people won’t ever change unless they get the help they need.
Facts i was in the same relationship too he was a narcissist
Tale as old as time!
I will 100% agree with this! I truly believe he is angry him and Selena didn't work out, so he just took whatever opportunity he had with Hailey, and married her to cover up how he truly felt for Selena. Anyone who acts this way to a partner, is because they are taking out their anger from the hurt from someone else. Very familiar to this kind of thing, and it never turns out well.
@@BayysideThis is a line from Beauty and the Beast, sounds right
The more I think about it…. When he was with Selena, did he *ever* display any behavior like this?
Every relationship has arguments and not every moment isn’t going to be pretty, but I just can’t picture him closing a door in her face, running away from her or acting like such a child around her… is that just me?
The relationship should not dictate how toxic you choose to act
He went through a lot of shit in this time. I bet he would maybe treat sel the same without healing if he was w her.
I remember older women groping him as a teenager, I can’t imagine what he went through in private🥺 it’s no excuse for his behavior but I think he’s angry for a reason
I can't even imagine what Diddy did to him!
Ugh exactly!
Diddy groomed usher and usher groomed justin
He's angry because he's stuck !
Selena gomez was one of those older women 🙀
She will wake up when she’s around 30 and realize there’s people out there that will treat her properly!
Agreed, women shouldn’t do anything (marriage and children) before 30. That is literally the magic number for women.
Meanwhile, she'll be growing her wealth. She might as well get something out of this huge sacrifice.
Sounds like what Britney Spears recently said about Justin Timberlake being sore loser when she beat him at basketball
But why do we need to compare these situations? (Just saying) and I don’t even like Bieber too much but I find he actually has a lot in common with Britney tbh 😕🤷🏻♀️
Britney and Justin (Bieber’s) fame stories are nearly identical (if you look at it just saying) 😕🤷🏻♀️
@@abbied Britney escaped with freedom to screw her head back on straight by a miracle and some very compassionate fans. Justin............well, I've read multiple accounts that he turned very nasty towards his fans as he got older.
@@beckyweiss6072 If you keep up with things Britney is turning on her fans now (she’s very unwell) 😭😭😭😭
@@beckyweiss6072 Britney Spears is bipolar and I think Justin Bieber probably is too (but I’m not a psychologist so don’t quote me on this) but Britney confessed to actually being bipolar JB didn’t (but I think he is bipolar)
Listen up, ladies (and gents too)! Thinking that you can enter a relationship with the sole intention of changing your partner is setting yourself up for disappointment. Real change has to come from within, from the person themselves. No amount of love or persuasion can force someone to change if they're not willing to do it for themselves. What's worse, by ignoring the red flags and tolerating verbal and emotional abuse in the hopes of molding your partner into your ideal version, you're essentially sacrificing your own well-being. Trust me, that's not healthy at all.
Two kids get married while one is on the rebound… not off to a good start.
Yup, rebound relationships never last long term
21 is not a kid
@@karahersheyvery much still is.
They have been married 6 years you lot are that pathetic you wish for someones relationship to fail because you dont like it. You dont know them or how they feel @Butterflies-are-free
@@janscott602 maybe so ,however Hailey is EMOTIONALLY UNBALANCED ! She was and possibly still is a (FAN. ) ATIC of JUSTIN BIEBER , and that is a FAR CRY from loving that person ! I am assuming Justin had NO IDEA of this OBSESSION she had for him . HAILEY BALDWIN didn’t. Need a HUSBAND THE GIRL SERIOUSLY NEEDS A THERAPIST! That is correct Justin was on the rebound , however HAILEY Got Married to her BIGGEST FAN ! Yikes !
He jumped into a marriage without healing himself. She should have taken a pause during their relationship to think it through prior to marrying him. What’s done is done. Hopefully they will healing.
Justin Bieber did that just to hurt Selena G at that time lol, he thinks that the world is his & ofc to Hailey, this is her ultimate chance to live up her Wattpad's y/n type of dream & now poof, she deserve it. Dream is not the same as reality
He came out about his sexual abuse and grooming from when he was young recently with the mysic industry..hopefully this helps him share and heal and move past it but every person goes through things as well and deals with all of it differently
@@bst.1502we all know about his past ppl need to stop acting like it’s an excuse to hurt and be vile to other ppl .. and before you say you don’t think it excuses him then you wouldn’t bring it up like we should feel bad for him because of it . He has plenty of resources to heal himself anything he could possibly need to heal is available to him if he chooses not to and continues to behave this way then it becomes a choice and he’s just a d0uche
I mean you could argue that putting all of a couple’s worst moments together could make any couple look bad, but then again, most couples I know and have seen on the internet haven’t managed to have this many bad moments on camera even after years of their marriage/relationship
@StarryWaters-gq1oj Some of the other videos were pretty bad on his part but the one you mention is clearly a joke .
So idk you must have a perfect and docile marriage because pointing that bad joke as unforgivable makes you seem way too sensitive and hopefully the relationship your in isn’t that unstable for one line to ruin it like that
Well when you realize someone who had a poster of you on their wall, idolized and targeted you-kinda gives you the ick! I predict they will not last.
Diddy caused Justin a LOT of pain and trauma. Its just sad that in return he's hurting Hailey. I wish him all the healing in the world, i think hes stuck mentally in that age
Yes, I sadly agree with you. I love Justin, but not his behaviors. :(. :(
I'm sure it wasn't just Diddy
I never liked him because he was such a little ass, but I now understand why and have a lot of empathy and compassion for him. So sad that he got into a church who was in it for themselves.
The Bible does say that people in churches will deceive us and pretend to be Christians. This is one of those stories. I am a Christian but a very wise one too. I don't belong to any particular church and I am very careful of what is being preached.
I have taken bible studies and understand the very basics of Christianity. I know I am a sinner and we all fall short of the glory of God. I am not perfect and I know how hard it is to try and be perfect as a Christian. Again I pray he finds his way. Justin needs a lot of help.
What is stuck can be unstuck but one has to identify the problem and then go to work.
@@fairyprincess911 exactly. He has to want it and do the work
Bieber married a fan. Thats problematic in itself
That is true
Hailey's dad trapped him lol, all about paying Baldwin's debt off
Nope
Justin will never respect Hailey, because he knows how obsessed she is with him. I do not think Justin has ever been in love with her, and I do not know if he will ever be able to, because Hailey stalked him for years. Part of me thinks he married Hailey to get back at Selena. I do not think at the time he realized how serious marriage was, and how bad Hailey wanted to be married to him.
I agree. He married out of spite and it back fired
I'm not trying to defend his behavior, but keep in mind he's been abused by men and women in the industry. He's got a lot of baggage, they should save themselves and the baby now and just end it. If anything a baby is going to make all this so much worse. I hope she gets out, I hope he can do the proper healing he needs to.
I was with a man for 12 yrs just like this. Broken and emotionally immature/unstable due to PTSD. It drove me nuts sometimes how he acted in public or at family events...didnt care about using foul lqnguage, constant negative talk and there i was every time trying to change the subject, make a joke, calm him down while i was DYING on the inside. It eats away at you and im angry i lost so many years to that.
Girl I feel you. From the outside you wouldn‘t unterstand why people even stay that long in such a relationship but once you really realize what is going on, you’re already neck deep in a codependence. It‘s really hard, I‘m glad you ended it. I also feel like I wasted so much time and energy on Someone like that. The best thing you can do is to never ever let it Happen again I guess❤️
This is really interesting to hear and thank you for sharing. I'm curious through what he was like at the beginning and what may have attracted you to him? I'm just wondering if there are red flags you saw there to watch out for or do they just turn into this crazy once you're in a full blown relationship.
@@monicabelluci6727 we have known each other since i was 14 and were friends but always kinda had a thing for one another. When i was 21 we started dating and i knew he had issues(PTSD)but it wasnt a problem for the first few years...we fell HARD and had an amazing first few years. Eventually things went down hill little by little...and after 12 years i reached my breaking point. He promised me countless times he wld change and get better. I did nothing but support and build him up..but the change just never happened so i ended it
But you stayed with him for 12 years... so you must have enjoyed the drama/abuse. All women do this. They go out with the douchebag from an early age, then settle for the nice guy at around age 28 - 30
Same 😢
It isn't good for either them. Hailey is suffocating as a try-hard (you can't fix the unfixable). Justin is resentful of the entire relationship and lashing out. This isn't healthy for either of them. Wishing them both well.
I honestly feel bad for both of them, I know Justin has his issues and probably this behavior is a result of the abuse he himself has received, but Hailey doesn't deserve it all being taken out on her. They went on that relationship thinking it was going to make their lives perfect. He thought it would make him forget about his past relationship and she thought she was marrying the perfect guy she admired because she idealized him as a former fan. They both deserve better in their own ways, I really hope they realize that.
BEST COMMENT!! Spot On!
Agree, this is a very sad but very accurate statement. Many people don’t seem to realize or believe that you can be genuine about a situation you’re not personally involved in without being some kind of hater. 🙄❤
After the Diddy situation, this should be seen entirely different. As someone who was abused as a child, you literally don't know until the day if you want to be touched or hugged or be around other humans. It is so destructive to your thoughts and relationships. I am thankful I have understanding people, but I can see the same type of deflation in my own that Hailey faces when he doesn't want to be touched.
We, as humans, crave that type of intimacy...but those of us who have been abused as children...it is stripped from us. If that was one thing I could share with the world and have it understood, it would be that. We can't help it. We heal, but it always lives there. It is always part of us. You can't fault someone for the actions and responses they have ZERO control over.
me and my boyfriend's consensus on the "his crocs" part of your video is: we are literally so poor, we work at the mall and make $16/hr for fucks sake, but if i had something as lame as a speech to do he would definitely make the effort to dress up and rent a suit because believe it or not- it's a form of respect. dressing like that to your partner's event is basically implying it's a casualty and not important. this has nothing to do with his personal style he can dress however he wants, but in this setting it's hella disrespectful. especially when your net worth is $300 million, nothing's stopping you from getting proper attire. that picture so clearly displays he is the farthest thing from a gentleman and a literal man child, as you worded perfectly.
His bumby appearance also seems part of spite he has towards her. Imagine chasing him all those years and he won't even get dressed for you. That's why you don't fall in love with a fantasy.
Total narcissist when you can’t celebrate your partner’s achievements because it’s all about you.
I did this very thing it was brutal and stole 15 years of my life
He dressed exactly like he always does--like a punk.
He’s lost the sparkle in his eyes that he use to have .
I don't understand. Justin seems like someone hiding something and crying out for help. Hailey looks like a trapped Stepford wife. People divorce all the time in Hollywood. Why won't they just walk away from this?
She is being emotionally abused, and doesn't even see it. Instead, she just keeps trying to be what she thinks He WANTS, and blames herself for the way he treats her. She need to get out of this marriage otherwise its going mess up her mind for many many years.
This is when you socializing with Diddy this is what Diddy did to him.!!
Okay but it’s his responsibility to heal from the trauma he’s experienced
This. But she is so young she will just learn to value her mental health as she grows older
This. free her
It's weird seeing them cz she always looks so put together and he looks homeless 😩she got pregnant after the cassie news broke n Justin's name was thrown in that time too
Hailey did what all of us women do, she was in limerance with Justin and believed he was some "king" and then she realized that he was a man with many many problems. She probably didn't wanna give up on him to save face. Of course because of "love" but definitely because she didn't want to embarrass herself marrying him so quickly and young.
she just keeps giving him more chances so he can keep letting her down over and over again, but she keeps giving him more chances because she desperately wants their love to work
Haley loves Justin more than she loves herself. She's still his 'biggest fan'. Although he wants her to get lost.
I can see him yelling at her and calling her stupid and idiot. and other means terms.
@@lastjob2011 he is only mean to her because she is always so sweet to him and he takes her for granted. I bet the second she stops showering him with love and affection his other personality will come out. He will turn on his living side when he feels like he's losing her.
@@boomeradley8748not necessarily..
He doesn't love her at all and she is obsessed with him, to be honest I don't know what is worse, together they have created the perfect storm. It is sad to see how he treats her and she never complains because she doesn’t wanna loose him. They are the perfect example of a really toxic relationship.
It's a passport marriage; dnt be fooled! She tried to make him fall in love wt her, but as we can see, she failed miserably. He has too many skeletons in his closet that interfere wt his love life until then, and when he's done, he figured out his issues and deals wt the abuse and raw emotion he goes through
For certain. And now it's coming out that a few of the Karjenner girls took Salena out of the country while the rest of them stayed back to hook their friend Hailey up with Justin & it worked. He loved Salena.
@@BebeBijouexactly what you said and what he said, it was arranged. She is his handler, it is a business contract. Only he wasn’t to ever find out, he did tho. Thats the thing they talk about that made him change his idea of her.
It’s abusive
@@monalisa9949it is arranged and for some reason he can’t leave, so he pushes her to limits and to divorce him.
First time listening to this podcast. Articulation and presentation is top notch. Great reporting, great research. Respect.
Selena really did dodge a bullet 😮
Thank God Selena dodged the bullet but Hailey caught the bullet.
She knew what he was capable of and finally got out of that relationship before things got worse.
@@corrinnelindsey6568fr Selena’s been knowing how awful he can be
Indeed,thank God! But now, to be honest, Bieber and Baldwin really deserve one each other ,very trashy and shady ppl!
@@andrajurubitamarin5379 I believe they're both miserable don't look happy at all. I believe if you're not happy it's time to let the relationship go or to try to work on it. In my opinion he is trying to get away from Hailey but he can't. I thought she said he is clingy and needy but she looks like the one hanging on.
How this poor girl is not embarrassed after all that exposure is beyond me.
My theory: She's a handler, supposed to keep him in check. The 'Hillside christian' yaght-girl obsessed with him was an easy choice for the job.
@@marieo305Idk, she definitely seems like the obsessed stalker type.
@@purplemist7 that made her perfect, 1. she gets a marriage with her how-do-you-call-it-guy,
2. Hillside has him under control and he is to used to human/artist traffici g to notice he's being used
Bonuspoints: her yachting experience can be forgotten because she is a properly married wife now. And considering tge yachting programmed her to being used, nothing about this arranged marriage (his words) seems strange to eighter of them
She can't be embarrassed because she wanted him at all cost
She’s probably used to it
I don’t know about the intricacies of their marriage but it’s so unfair the way people treat her. The chanting of Selena was so painful to watch
Hailey is not innocent. She has been shown many times to shade and outright mock Selena. She's jealous because Justin really loved her. That said, am so glad Selena did not end up with Justin. She seems too sweet to have ended up with such an abuser.
@@Kepi_Kei doesnt mean that selena freaks should literally harass hailey because of that lol
He is still a child. He needs to do a lot of growing up. He looks like he has been through some sort of hell behind his eyes.