Timestamps-ish! 0:00 Intro And Late Loss 6:47 Tyrese Haliburton's Performance 12:49 Strategic Decisions and Game Analysis 19:13 Pacers Defensive Performance 23:22 Obi Toppin's Injury Impact 30:34 Upcoming Games Against Boston
This game was tied going into crunch time, and SGA outscored Tyrese by 40 POINTS!!!! Scoring 4 points in a game that was basically tied after 46 minutes. Ty was on the floor 35 minutes and scored 4. Just unacceptable, that loss is 100% on him.
Here's me campaigning again for the pacers to force Hali to get in the weight room. He's just pathetic at try to get to his spots because he gets bullied by everyone. Bro you're a professional athlete who doesn't strength train and it shows. Strength is what's missing from his game.
Overall, a pretty good game. Pascal was playing like he's pissed. Walker was phenomenal too, but the ball movement slowed. There was no late game offense they could find.. J-Will took them late in the 3rd. SGA killed in the 4th. Lu Dort 🔐.Hartenstein.. We needed one more player to step up big late. It's more like they didn't know what to do late game. Just keep moving the ball.. OKC defense is solid all around tho.. If Walker, Mathurin and Nembhard keep improving. That will help us a lot. I'm not sure why Hali can't seem to get going. It looks as if he has no legs.
Crunch time is star takeover time in the NBA. We were tied with 2 mins left, Ty literally barely touched the ball our last 3 important possessions. Just absolutely unacceptable from him. 4 points from a supermax guy, when the supermax guy on the other side has 45. Embarrassing.
Wheres halli at? 4th quarter 4 minutes left to go with scores tied at clutch situation still no where to be seen….. its crazy to think that in that condition uppon inbound our franchise supermax player doesnt have the apettite to even dribble the ball up the floor and initiate offense instead hes giving the ball to nembhard to dribble up the floor and getting it back in akward situation with shot clock under 10 most of the time. Its just weird seeing halli today its like hes got no interest or apettite for the ball. Hope it doesn’t drag to the next game again. I mean we dont need a 30 points halli every night, we have the luxury of deepd bench and plenty off role player but at least a 10-15 point and 10 assist halli will do the job just like in sacramento and golden state.
We need to ask rick about that. The whole game it was nembhard doing it. I think that was part of the game plan. Halis game is more on when we is the one initiating the offense or the ball is in hos hands
We need a 25ppg star to even think about being a contender and we supermaxed Tyrese, who showed he could do it over a large stretch of games. 10-15 points is not good enough from him. This fan base is so quick to settle for less, man.
Some great signs of growth but basketball is 80% mentality and our super max player continues to show us to often his mentality…. A real star before a sometimes star
This win streak was fools gold!~~~ Feel bad for Obi!! HALLE BERRY BURTON........is a shell of himself...doesn't want anything to do with shooting the ball!!!
Much more into fb, but I watched about 4-5 games and I can't remember seeing H shoot any free throws? One thing to be cold, but he has no heart. Force yourself into the 'n game already?
Not surprising they ran out of juice after coming back from a west coast road trip. However, Tyrese playing like a role player instead of the team's star is ridiculous. He can miss shots. Everyone can have a bad shooting game. He just can't be a decoy the whole game.
Regarding Ty - Quinn Buckner said it perfectly tonight “He’s GOT to be a threat.” I don’t care if the offense is truly random - and his gifts are including everyone- it’s just basic strategy that if he is a threat it helps the team. Carlisle is protecting him as much as he can in the media. Ty has slumps and is too in his head at times. He is streaky this year. And everyone has a front row seat to it which only Adds pressure but that’s the cooker he’s in. Have to find a way to bring the heat - not just take it - he can simmer and catch quick but he needs to be a threat to ignite and 6 attempts to shoot in a big game is a failure of coaching or decision making - and it prob cost us the game. Top tier teams test us and as we found out with Boston - it’s about who wins in the end they matters🎉
Great game by everyone else. Hali a no show. How much we pay him? Pascal passing him the ball behind the half court line was Pascal saying what you doing dude. Epic ending to a no show by haliburton.
Hali hardly ever drives the ball into the paint,if he learns how to get a flaoter shot in the middle of the paint his game will explode.Mathurin is playing really well,but i wish he would quit pounding the ball before does anything towards the basket.Mathurin seems like he is so undecided what he wants to do,
A disappointing finish for sure! What the heck is going on with Haliburton!!! They definitely showed us they can stay with the best team in the West, just need this important piece in Haliburton to be more consistent.
Ithink it was the game plan having nemnhard to initiate the offense. For me i think hali needs to be more productive off the ball. When his the one initiating the pffense he had good games this yr they are giving him off ball and its not doing good for him
Pascal's passivity is something that has not been addressed yet. It sucks bc I've seen take over games in Toronto, last season on the Pacers, but he hasn't done this year at all. Anyway, I feel that Tyrese still needs to add something to his offensive game. It's hard to see Shai shoot 22 shots and the Pacer stars not even shooting that much on most nights
Pascal is certainly more than capable of taking over and creating offence, but I believe he is NOT suppose to do so under Carlisle's offence. He is a capable Point Forward without a doubt! They have capable PG's and I get why he doesn't. He is not passive IMO, not at all, he is just playing within Carlisle's structure!
@di_from_north4460 I know I get, but I just want him to play to more of his level, you know. All I could think was, " Tell Pascal to take over." It just sucks knowing he could do it, but he will never do it again
@@lakeyatackalack23 I hear you for sure! I think the answer is to ensure he gets more shots in these end of game clutch situations, and he often does not. This is what frustrates me. He has proven efficiency, yet this continues to happen.
Concerning haliburton our starplayer😂........ is there someone realising/considering we have a back 2 back against thunder/celtics...it's all about smart rotations and picking your battles. Against certain defensive (plan) match ups you could say there's a certain off plan and you roll with it. And sometimes indiv you play A part. Last night they played (1 of) the best defensive teams with (1 of) the best defensive backcourts. Their def gameplan (you think the thunder have one🙃?) was ao neutralizing lightning rod Hali. They (pacers) just came up short. Hali should play better, but sometimes you take what you are given and against okc, it was not a lot 4 hali. But that doesnt mean that they stopped playing they're brand of basketball. Smart reactionary teambasketball (shoutout AA). (I didnt see the game so maybe i'm wrong about that...i like 2 believe most off the time they do) If you think that nobody in this team is aware of certain buildups and forced adjustments (shoutout AA) within (a) game(s)....? The pacers are a good team and well coached (in my opp) and they are showing some things they showed last year. Thats a pos/good thing. its a long season. Hopefully, (don't want 2 sound 2 pos) they will regain momentum against the celtics, with Toppin as their leading scorer😉
I like this podcast but Tony, please leave out Derek Kramer. 2 min into his opening statement he used “like” way to many times. I shut it off. Stay solo Tony PLEASE
You are really a clown, pascal is not a selfish player trying to take over game unless they keep feeding him the ball, the biggest problem with this team in the coach and Haliburton
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Timestamps-ish!
0:00 Intro And Late Loss
6:47 Tyrese Haliburton's Performance
12:49 Strategic Decisions and Game Analysis
19:13 Pacers Defensive Performance
23:22 Obi Toppin's Injury Impact
30:34 Upcoming Games Against Boston
This game was tied going into crunch time, and SGA outscored Tyrese by 40 POINTS!!!! Scoring 4 points in a game that was basically tied after 46 minutes. Ty was on the floor 35 minutes and scored 4. Just unacceptable, that loss is 100% on him.
Haliburton isn’t an alpha and that will never change. The hopes that he’d be our #1 are long gone we need to rethink this team
Here's me campaigning again for the pacers to force Hali to get in the weight room. He's just pathetic at try to get to his spots because he gets bullied by everyone. Bro you're a professional athlete who doesn't strength train and it shows. Strength is what's missing from his game.
Don’t know if I’ve ever seen an NBA player as weak as he is…. Payton Pritchard backed him
All the way down under the rim 2x
If Hali scored 14 we win the game
No matter how good other player are playing, 4 points from your max player is inexcusable
this was probably the least i’ve ever seen haliburton impact the game… that was ridiculous
Overall, a pretty good game. Pascal was playing like he's pissed. Walker was phenomenal too, but the ball movement slowed. There was no late game offense they could find.. J-Will took them late in the 3rd. SGA killed in the 4th. Lu Dort 🔐.Hartenstein.. We needed one more player to step up big late. It's more like they didn't know what to do late game. Just keep moving the ball.. OKC defense is solid all around tho.. If Walker, Mathurin and Nembhard keep improving. That will help us a lot. I'm not sure why Hali can't seem to get going. It looks as if he has no legs.
Crunch time is star takeover time in the NBA. We were tied with 2 mins left, Ty literally barely touched the ball our last 3 important possessions. Just absolutely unacceptable from him. 4 points from a supermax guy, when the supermax guy on the other side has 45. Embarrassing.
Wheres halli at? 4th quarter 4 minutes left to go with scores tied at clutch situation still no where to be seen….. its crazy to think that in that condition uppon inbound our franchise supermax player doesnt have the apettite to even dribble the ball up the floor and initiate offense instead hes giving the ball to nembhard to dribble up the floor and getting it back in akward situation with shot clock under 10 most of the time.
Its just weird seeing halli today its like hes got no interest or apettite for the ball. Hope it doesn’t drag to the next game again.
I mean we dont need a 30 points halli every night, we have the luxury of deepd bench and plenty off role player but at least a 10-15 point and 10 assist halli will do the job just like in sacramento and golden state.
We need to ask rick about that. The whole game it was nembhard doing it. I think that was part of the game plan.
Halis game is more on when we is the one initiating the offense or the ball is in hos hands
We need a 25ppg star to even think about being a contender and we supermaxed Tyrese, who showed he could do it over a large stretch of games. 10-15 points is not good enough from him. This fan base is so quick to settle for less, man.
@@kalu8652100% correct it’s like the fan base expects mediocrity
TYRESE is the reason why we are going nowhere!!!!!!!!!
TYRESE avoids contact at all costs! That even includes trying to get aggressive offensively.
Some great signs of growth but basketball is 80% mentality and our super max player continues to show us to often his mentality…. A real star before a sometimes star
This is completely Halliburton’s fault and I hope they let him know it’s so saddening if he literally gets at least 10 points we win this game
This win streak was fools gold!~~~ Feel bad for Obi!! HALLE BERRY BURTON........is a shell of himself...doesn't want anything to do with shooting the ball!!!
Much more into fb, but I watched about 4-5 games and I can't remember seeing H shoot any free throws? One thing to be cold, but he has no heart. Force yourself into the 'n game already?
Dude had 4pts. Rigged! If he would of got 10pts they would either won or go into OT
Not surprising they ran out of juice after coming back from a west coast road trip. However, Tyrese playing like a role player instead of the team's star is ridiculous. He can miss shots. Everyone can have a bad shooting game. He just can't be a decoy the whole game.
Tyrese Halliburton is stealing money
I agree.
We win if Haliburton score at less 10pts
Regarding Ty - Quinn Buckner said it perfectly tonight “He’s GOT to be a threat.” I don’t care if the offense is truly random - and his gifts are including everyone- it’s just basic strategy that if he is a threat it helps the team. Carlisle is protecting him as much as he can in the media. Ty has slumps and is too in his head at times. He is streaky this year. And everyone has a front row seat to it which only
Adds pressure but that’s the cooker he’s in. Have to find a way to bring the heat - not just take it - he can simmer and catch quick but he needs to be a threat to ignite and 6 attempts to shoot in a big game is a failure of coaching or decision making - and it prob cost us the game. Top tier teams test us and as we found out with Boston - it’s about who wins in the end they matters🎉
Pacers was doing good we just missed a few shots in the end
Great game by everyone else. Hali a no show. How much we pay him? Pascal passing him the ball behind the half court line was Pascal saying what you doing dude. Epic ending to a no show by haliburton.
Your not paying him
@Jerome-w4g you know what I mean lmao
Hali hardly ever drives the ball into the paint,if he learns how to get a flaoter shot in the middle of the paint his game will explode.Mathurin is playing really well,but i wish he would quit pounding the ball before does anything towards the basket.Mathurin seems like he is so undecided what he wants to do,
They played without Alex Caruso too. Who's had a nagging hip injury since November. Knowing they could have been better is even worse. Lol
Yea bc he usually locks tyrese up but Tyrese still looked bad🙈🙈😂😂
TYRESE STOP THROWING GAMES!!!!!!!
A disappointing finish for sure! What the heck is going on with Haliburton!!! They definitely showed us they can stay with the best team in the West, just need this important piece in Haliburton to be more consistent.
Ithink it was the game plan having nemnhard to initiate the offense.
For me i think hali needs to be more productive off the ball. When his the one initiating the pffense he had good games this yr they are giving him off ball and its not doing good for him
Andrew, arguably should start think Rick is about to half to make some tuff decessions also add Walker to the mix along with Ben
Pascal's passivity is something that has not been addressed yet. It sucks bc I've seen take over games in Toronto, last season on the Pacers, but he hasn't done this year at all. Anyway, I feel that Tyrese still needs to add something to his offensive game. It's hard to see Shai shoot 22 shots and the Pacer stars not even shooting that much on most nights
Shai is phenomenal. Swear he scored like 12 points in a row and made it look so easy
@julianfoddrell9370 Yeah, he always was going to get his for sure
Pascal is certainly more than capable of taking over and creating offence, but I believe he is NOT suppose to do so under Carlisle's offence. He is a capable Point Forward without a doubt! They have capable PG's and I get why he doesn't. He is not passive IMO, not at all, he is just playing within Carlisle's structure!
@di_from_north4460 I know I get, but I just want him to play to more of his level, you know. All I could think was, " Tell Pascal to take over." It just sucks knowing he could do it, but he will never do it again
@@lakeyatackalack23 I hear you for sure! I think the answer is to ensure he gets more shots in these end of game clutch situations, and he often does not. This is what frustrates me. He has proven efficiency, yet this continues to happen.
Concerning haliburton our starplayer😂........ is there someone realising/considering we have a back 2 back against thunder/celtics...it's all about smart rotations and picking your battles. Against certain defensive (plan) match ups you could say there's a certain off plan and you roll with it. And sometimes indiv you play A part. Last night they played (1 of) the best defensive teams with (1 of) the best defensive backcourts. Their def gameplan (you think the thunder have one🙃?) was ao neutralizing
lightning rod Hali. They (pacers) just came up short. Hali should play better, but sometimes you take what you are given and against okc, it was not a lot 4 hali. But that doesnt mean that they stopped playing they're brand of basketball. Smart reactionary teambasketball (shoutout AA).
(I didnt see the game so maybe i'm wrong about that...i like 2 believe most off the time they do)
If you think that nobody in this team is aware of certain buildups and forced adjustments (shoutout AA) within (a) game(s)....?
The pacers are a good team and well coached (in my opp) and they are showing some things they showed last year. Thats a pos/good thing. its a long season.
Hopefully, (don't want 2 sound 2 pos) they will regain momentum against the celtics, with Toppin as their leading scorer😉
31:34- Derek Kramer uses the word "like" an astonishing 7 times in 2 sentences.
Lmao, like Congrats... that like, seems hard to do. Hahah
Why is Haliburtin called the Pacers "best player" ? He's not.
Pascal is the best player on the team and they don't try to find him every one trying to get there
@@mugarbelennon1578 I so agree with you! I have been saying this since beginning of season. They are losing games because of it for sure!!!
Derek Kramer like... sounds like... a California like teenage Valley Girl. Like, really... like. Hahahaha
I like this podcast but Tony, please leave out Derek Kramer. 2 min into his opening statement he used “like” way to many times. I shut it off. Stay solo Tony PLEASE
Could've won some money last night. But pacers choked 😢
stop gambling its a disease, no one wants to hear your complaints about your losses
Bummer that sucks! This definitely felt like a "shoulda won"
@secularZoo pacers really been banned list but I still give them benefit of the doubt
Embarrassing🙈🙈🙈🙈
Hali needs a legit allstar caliber ⭐ pairing. Aging Pascal/ backup PG, Turner will degress.
You are really a clown, pascal is not a selfish player trying to take over game unless they keep feeding him the ball, the biggest problem with this team in the coach and Haliburton
Suspicious. Very suspicious.