Thanks for your input. The reason diseases were low and people lived so long is given in the video. We also deal with 'incest' in context. The reason we did this video is to provide solid Biblical answers to this popular question.
The Bible makes it pretty clear that Cain and Abel were the first children born to Adam and Eve (Genesis 4:1-2). Now, Seth was born to replace Abel (Genesis 4:25), and it's clearly stated that Adam and Eve had more children AFTER Seth was born (Genesis 5:3). Therefore, Cain's wife couldn't have been a relative, because Cain's wife is mentioned in Genesis 4:17, BEFORE Seth was born, and thus, before Eve had other children.
Cain is only the 2nd generation, so how is there a city in the land of nod, and nobody asks that question? Who founded the land of Nod and who built the city in the land of Nod. Who populated the city and how many people were in the city when Cain arrived? How old was Cain and other siblings when he traveled to this city?
True! This is repeated when Noah and seven other were the ONLY SURVIVORS. Millions of people came from just 8 remaining humans from the Ark. I mean Abraham married his half sister and was Promised a son with her. You guys nailed it. I was lambasted after teaching it the same way you guys presented, when I led Bible study just a few week ago. Keep shock em with plain truth from the scriptures brothers. God bless!
if it was morally OK for Cain to marry his sister, then it's morally OK for anyone to marry their own siblings. God can't judge one person and not the other for doing the same thing. this would mean God changes and can't be trusted.
+Joseph Nash It's a good thing that God describes Himself in the Bible. So we don't need to trust people's inventive notions about what God would and wouldn't do.
Wow. I'm quite surprised by your response. Most people who comment on our videos have not done research on the Christian viewpoint regarding these matters and when we encourage them to do some they continue with their ranting. Hats off to you for actually saying that you would look into it. To start with, have a look at Chapter 18 in our Creation Answers Book. You can read the whole book online for free. See: creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter18.pdf
The problem with this explaination is that it relies solely on the book of Genesis. There are, however, many other Old Testament age books that weren't canonized but which speak on this matter. The book of Jubilees and the writings of Enoch are two such books that expand on the story of creation. Genesis gives a simple readers digest version of creation. I really wish Christians would take off their blind folds and accept the truth that there is much more to God's word than what is in the bible
We are talking about mutations accumulating in the human genome. Please watch the episode again. Everyone else understands what we are explaining. You seem to have missed it.
Peace,something every man wants... if any man says different there are liar,or insane.every one wants a place free from wars,suffering,free of Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech.Peace was there before caused Spacetime sense there was no wars,suffering,no Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech able to take place Before Space and time.therefor,it was a perfect reality,which was filled with Peace,who is Beyond both space time and bound by it.but how did we randomly shift from a perfect reality,into a imperfect one?Adam anyone :P? Jesus is Peace Judges 6:24 and he wish that you Dwell in his everlasting resting place.Isaiah 32:18 Matthew 11:28-30 will you accept Jesus?
The 'after" in Gen 5:4 refers to the years Adam lived after Seth was born. Then there is an additional note mentioning that Adam had other sons and daughters. The Bible does not say that all the other 'sons and daughters' came after Seth.
Yes it does, this is a complete reach, and twisting of the scriptures. It clearly says AFTER Seth, Adam had many other sons and daughters. Not here to debate, there is no debate, we can all read you are making the scripture say something it clearly does not. "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." And clearly Seth is the third son. Or will you twist that too?
Moses lived around 1140 BC. The law of against close intermarriage didn't come about until the time of Moses which roughly around 1140 BC. So up to this point, the blood line was still pure enough to not have to deal with birth defects?
the laws given to Israel at that time were necessary for their future. whether there would have been defects then or not does not matter, but that there would later be defects if they did not follow the law. the Lord protects His children
The Bible certainly does support that Cain's wife was a close relative. Follow the logic: Adam and Eve were the only people that God created (Gen 3:20). They had sons and daughters. (Gen 5:4) Therefore, the sons and daughters must have married each other. The biological and moral issues associated with close intermarriage TODAY were not an issue back then, for the reasons we mentioned.
We know that "where there is no law, there can be no sin" (what is 'sin'? 1 John 3:4). Since a pagan king pleaded with Abraham when he fell under a curse when Abraham and his wife had hid her marriage status to pretending to be his sister for fear of her being taken and he being killed, saying that a sin had been committed, there must have been a law against taking another man's wife. There are numerous other implications of a known law before Exodus. Are we to assume that this particular law was only added at Exodus?
The Bible does not specify when the "other sons and daughters" were born. Seth is a replacement for Abel. Is is very likely that some of the sons and daughters were both between Abel and Seth.
It may be best to closely examine 'after'. "Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years, and he had other sons and daughters." The 'after' refers to how long Adam lived after Seth was born. The there is a comma, a break, and a note that he had other sons and daughters. The text does not 'clearly' say that all of the 'others' were born after Seth.
The word translated "giants" in the KJV is best understood as 'giant in character', like celebrities. Not giant in stature. Elsewhere it is translated as 'men of renown'.
@cpepe223 Please read the chapter in the Answers Book (linked in the video description) for more details. (The video is only a summary) People need to be descendants of Adam to be saved.
Technically, if we weren't descended from Adam we wouldn't inherit the Adamic sin and wouldn't need to be saved. On the other hand, if God raised Adam and Eve from a pre-Adamite population, then intermarriage over thousands of years would spread the bloodline through the entire population and we would be descendants of Adam anyway.
And those children would've had children and their children would've had children and their children probably would've had children in that 130 year timeframe.
The word "giant" can be understood in different ways. For example, "Winston Churchill was a giant of a man." There the word "giant" is not referring to physical size. It is referring to his character and accomplishments.
Seth was born 130 years after the creation Cain and Abel were probably born for five years after the creation there were thousands of people when Cain went to find a wife
"Naaah it's o.k. for a brother and sister to sleep with each other just this time, as hey, there's no one else on the planet... better make the best of a bad job". The message here? Gross behaviour when driven by a lack of other options is fine boys and girls, but if a law is written and it becomes illegal, you'll get in to trouble so don't do it then. If there's NO law AND a lack of alternatives, go right ahead.
bangzoom26 Everyone is related (we all go back to Adam and Eve) so everyone 'sleeps with' their relatives. God is the moral Law Giver, not the government. At the time of Moses He gave a law that forbid close relatives to marry. That's the reason that you consider it "gross behaviour". Today it IS wrong to sleep with your close relative.
Actually 3:20 doesn’t rule out the theory that other people were living in Nod when Cain arrived.... Remember when he was expelled in Genesis 4:16.... it says he went to Nod *SOLO* No mention of an entourage or even one traveling companion. Also Genesis 5:4 doesn’t mean that these daughters accompanied Cain on his way to Nod. All it does say is Adam had other sons and daughters.... To make that argument is a classic non sequitur.... also to consider is why would anyone travel with someone they know to be a murderer? The verse I want to key on is Genesis 4:14 Cain says that he shall be a fugitive and a wanderer....and whoever finds him would kill him. If Nod is unpopulated when Cain arrives there....who would be there to have an opportunity to kill him? Based on all this I argue that the land of Nod was populated at the time of Cain’s arrival and with people *unrelated* to Adam.
the original word used to describe cains wife is ishshah which means woman/female/wife. since woman means "from man" and adam was the first man then the wife of cain had to have come out of adam and eve since all children are born in the same manner
I don't again with the answers offered...for Cain was banished from his parents Adam and Eve....And went to the Land of Nod...there was no city, since he was the first builder in which he named Enoch....The inhabitants lived in caves and taught him of the makings of tools and weapons. Land of Nod (Nod meaning No Where...wilderness, void) is were the Fallen ones dwelled and God placed a mark upon him, therefore he would not be killed by the inhabitants of the land for Cain was human and in the image of God and the fallen ones feared the wrath of God...Adam new of his mate Eve and produced another son in which they named Seth and after had other children but names where not mention due to the lineage from Seth was chosen to to be one of Gods chosen people. Cains lineage was taught all what the Fallen ones had bestowed upon him and his kind..which produced Hybrids and Giants and begin to devour mankind and filled the Earth with unspeakable Sin, which angered God and invoked Gods wrath...in turn having to wipe mankind from the face of the earth, until he saw favor in Noah who was righteous in his time, mind you not with out sin, but righteous and called upon God. Therefore God made Noah the Second Adam and his sons....food for thought!
What? Where did you get that from? The Bible doesn't support it and no one at CMI has ever said that. People are normally curious about how Cain got ONE wife.
While it is POSSIBLE for God to have created a wife for Cain in the same way that He created Adam's, can you point to Scripture to support it? Just because something is possible for God does not mean that that is the way He did it. We need to develop answers to these types of questions within a Biblical framework, not speculating about what God could have done. In that case there would be no end to speculation.
The bible clear says cuz Eve sin he will increase birth pain,, which means she already had kids just not a painful birth, we don't know how many yrs were they living in the garden b4 they got kicked out, which means they cud of had btwn 1-100 kids, maybe Cain did married a sister or even a cousin however back then it wasn't a sin cuz God said to be multiply, so God gave them the permission to take their sisters for wife's cuz there was no other way to multiply unless u married ur own sister. Later on in Leviticus 18 u can c how God say u can no long take a sister as wife (putting it in simple words) time in those days was very different then today. Human today r the one that have change & misconstrued everything to confuse pplz mostly for their self benefits. But instead of listening to others just pray & ask for wisdom knowledge & understanding & I can bet it will come to u from God our true teacher, he has open my eyes he can open urs. God bless u all!!
Given the estimated number of people at the time of the Flood, and the total volume of sediment deposited by the Flood we would expect to find one human in every 70 cubic km. In other words, we don't really expect to find any human fossils of the people who lived at the time of the Flood. There's lots of other data that supports dinos living with humans.
I come from a Muslim society where this is a fundamental question too i.e. "Where did Cain find his wife?" The explanation that has been provided here in this video is similar to the explanation provided by Ibn Abbas and Ibn Masud, the two renowned early Koran scholars and companions of Islamic Prophet Muhammad during Prophet's lifetime. It is said that the prohibition on incest was taught to mankind by later Prophets like Prophet Moses and Prophet Jesus long after the time of Prophet Adam (regarded as first prophet in Islam). For those who are curious, here is a resourceful link about the Islamic interpretation on this issue. www.islamreligion.com/articles/1197/story-of-adam-part-4/
This question is not new. We get this all the time, and there are answers freely available on creation dot com. Please see the articles here: creation dot com/noahs-ark-questions-and-answers
Eight people survived the Flood. Incest has never been OK with God. 'Incest' refers to a broken relationship, there's something wrong with the relationship. God's plan was one man for one woman for life. This video deals with these issues. Did you even watch it?
+CMIcreationstation, have you ever thought maybe adam and eve weren't the 1st and they represent the 1st parents on earth? cain knew his wife and so did seth because they both married enoch's daughters,this is why both cain and seth's 1st born son is name enoch/enosh. as all the men in genesis,your 1st wife had to be a half- sister and your 2nd wife had to be a patrillneal cousin in which you had to name the child after the cousin/wife's father. example:abraham and sarah were half siblings and abraham and keturah were patrillneal cousins. abraham and keturah's 1st born was named after keturah's father. the marriage pattern was done because of the edenic promise,the promise that a female along their bloodline would produce the seed of god. they were protecting their bloodline by not having children by outsiders. i read that they were pretty smart in their planning when it came to having children with their patrillneal cousins,they would marry not the 1st born cousin but the 15th. this was all planned and as a matter of fact once jesus was born they stopped their specific marriage patterns. by the way The Land of Nod is in Nigeria, Enoch was the tribal ruler in the land of nod. cain and seth were married and we know this because you had to marry your half-sibling 1st. if you look at all the men in genesis you will see the marriage pattern. look at abraham and sarah they were half-siblings then later abraham married keturah his patrillneal cousin thanks and keep up the wonderful conversations
+CMIcreationstation, as clarification you are correct the bible says we all come from adam/eve. so,if adam/eve were the 1st then this puts them living some where around +2million yrs. ago,which means cain wouldn't fit in. cain was a metal-worker and built territories,metal work started 13,000 yrs ago but not 2 or even 1 million years ago. also, cain and seth married their patrillneal cousin enoch's daughters. cain and seth's uncle was enoch,but adam was the 1st,no other before him. read genesis 4-5 and psalms 8:4 and you get the real picture that adam and eve are archtypes but enoch is are closet ancestor,what some +10,300 years ago? people back then mixed archetypes with historical people. the greeks did also,but it doesnt mean archetypes didnt exist. abraham's people had specific marriage practice because of the edenic promise that a woman amo g them would carry the seed,the seed of god...genesis is about the nilo/proto-saharans,abraham's ancestors............blessings to you
+airlia dazen Where in the Bible do you get the idea that Adam and Eve lived 2 million years ago. If you look at the Bible's timing they lived about 6000 year ago.
I'm confused about your perspective on the absence of the law permitted marrying close relatives. If your position is correct lying,coveting, stealing,rape and all other abdominal acts were legal before moses....Right? Why then does good destroy Sod and Gom Why did God curse Ham Why did God cursed Cain
hey yeah he's right. verse 4 says "the days of Adam AFTER he became the father of Seth were 800 yrs; and he had other sons and daughters." that means they were born after Seth and between that time and 800, cuz he crokes at 930 yrs. wow I totally didn't notice that. lol
I believe what Genesis 1:26 says, that on the Sixth day God created mankind, that He created "them" male and female, unless Adam and Eve were created on the same day, I believe God created people on the sixth day, and I believe the story of the Bible focuses specifically on the family line of Adam and Eve. In Matthew 15, there is an incident , Jesus was traveling through Tyre and Sidon, a Gentile region, and “a Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, ‘Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly’” (Matthew 15:22). This Gentile woman recognized Jesus as the Messiah (“Son of David”), but “Jesus did not answer a word” (verse 23). As the woman kept up her appeals, Jesus finally responded, but His words seemed to hold little hope: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel” (verse 24). However, the woman did not give up, and Jesus eventually granted her request, based on her “great faith” (verse 28). Why Jesus did not recognize a Gentile as valid for salvation is the reason why Genesis 3:20 says Eve is the mother of all who live, not all, but all of one kind, that is the family line of Adam and Eve.
CMIcreationstation Ok, it also says they were created on the sixth day, so was Adam and Eve created on the same day? Did God create Adam in the morning, then Adam feels lonely and God creates Eve in the afternoon?
Yes, Adam and Eve were both created on Day 6. There was quite a lot of activity on Day 6. Here's a couple of articles that work through the details: creation.com/naming-the-animals-all-in-a-day-s-work-for-adam and creation.com/fitting-everything-in-on-the-6th-day
Dude? That is 1000% wrong. That is NOT why Jesus did not recognize the Gentile as able to partake of Salvation. Gentiles had NO COVENANT with God. Only ISRAEL. And CHRIST was ONLY SENT to the HOUSE of ISRAEL. That seed war garbage is Christian Sci-fi. Not Scripture.
+Frater Tyskos Peace,something every man wants... if any man says different there are liar,or insane.every one wants a place free from wars,suffering,free of Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech.Peace was there before caused Spacetime sense there was no wars,suffering,no Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech able to take place Before Space and time.therefor,sense there no Time,matter,or energy Peace it self is not bound by space and Time,which means it's *everlastingly Miraculous*.the God of the bible is Peace Judges 6:24 and he wish that you Dwell in his everlasting resting place.Isaiah 32:18 Matthew 11:28-30 will you accept Jesus?
(I meant to say, 'sleeping with his sister'!). You say, 'Because the Bible doesn't support it'. Neither does the Bible support your theory. The Bible does *not* say, 'Cain slept with his sister'. It says quite clearly that he slept with his *wife*. Now if 'wife' *actually* means 'sister', I think you might perhaps understand why some people consider reading scripture somewhat pointless! So I think my interpretation is more reasnoble than yours!!
I would like to say something different if I may. It's purely fuctional? The King Father of us All could only bear Suns, but here in the Garden there was already another creation, because the creator created many children creators. He came into his daughter Gaia's creation, she gave birth to Eve a daughter and Adam found her very pleasing. The Father Married Adam and Eve and they were of two separate races. A Canine and an Neanderthal, but there was another creation, a Dinosaur. It to was filled with hunger for flesh, both as food and desire. I took Eve and and shower her pleasure and taste of blood. Grandfather watched and decided to let this play out, like sometimes if you watch your dog trying to mount the vacuum, he was slightly amused. Grandfather wasn't a control freak, he was a master of curiosity. The Dinosaur convinced Eve to carry his Eggs known as Seth and Lilith. They were shunned by Adam because of their appetite for His Sons and Daughters when there were plenty of beasts as prey. We were different from the beast, because of our Grandfather's gift of the light body. Seth and Lilith were cold and dark inside, and jealous of the Light Body. They cursed their mother Eve for not giving them the eternal spark, and are using technology try and capture that light. There's more!
It seems to me that there were only two humanoid groups on the earth in the beginning: human beings and fallen angels. Later, some human beings and fallen angels mated creating the nephilim who were giants. Adam and Eve could not have been the only humans created at this time. There must have been some humans living outside of Eden. Only this could explain the various nations on the earth. If this is so, then some information has been removed from the Bible perhaps by mistake or for more nefarious reasons.
Touché - well i do intend on doing research in the future but still my understanding is that 2 people cannot populate the earth if they did how is there so much variation ie black white asian ???
This is what I think. The punishment for sister and brother having sex is banishment( given to Moses) and Cain was already banished for murdering his brother Able) I think Cain took his sister (willing or no). This seems obvious to me, but an interesting thought is, that this turn of events might allow Seth ( the replacement for Abel) to marry a COUSIN ( through Cain and his sister/wife) who is 2 generations further away from from Seth (this is strictly conjecture on my part) and thereby avoid breaking the Mosaic Law( even though it wasn't given yet). The irony is that if this is accurate, then Cain's disobedience produced the the situation that allowed his second brother Seth to marry Cain's Granddaughter (or Great) Who would be Seth's cousin and so still be in the right right. By the way , the Lord Jesus is descended from Seth and not Cain.
The Bible has been translated and rewritten many times and for many reasons. It seems obvious that there is some missing information throughout the entire Bible. Some books such as the Book of Enoch should have been included in the the Bible but were not. It does not seem logical that all humans came from Adam and Eve as there as many nationalities on this earth. Perhaps something was lost in translation?
Thank you for the video fellas! I hope I can aid in the journey to answer this question. The Greek meaning for "Nod" is "wandering." So the Land of Nod was meant to describe the wandering of Cain, which, to tie this all together, allowed enough time to pass for Adam's daughters to increase in number. Cain most likely wandered for hundreds of years before finding his wife and then building Enoch...the Chronology matches the story :) Praise to you for continuing in God's will!
You guys clearly don't know much about genetics. You don't inherit two 'genes', one of which might be 'bad' and one of might be 'good'. You inherit two 'alleles', some mutant alleles could be dominant, some could be recessive. Organisms also don't have a filter to determine which is dominant or recessive based on which might have a negative phenotypic effect. Seriously, I wouldn't advise talking about subjects you clearly know nothing about.
If Adam and eve had other children and people assume that Cain married a sister, then that would mean that all of Adam and eves other children were also banished from the garden and even the surrounding area like Cain, (because Adam and eve and their "children" were removed from the garden by this time) so an even bigger question, why were Adam and eve other children banished or not leaving near their parents like Cain and Abel were? Secondly, let's consider a few verses before we assume Cain married his "sister" Genesis 1:7 And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him - male and female He created them. (keyword, them could be more than one or just the first man and woman, mind you the Hebrew does not specify "Adam" it actually says "ADM" which is the Hebrew word for man. Christianity gave the first man a name, (and Eve actually had a name and it wasn't Eve, it was חַוָּה Chawwah). now let's jump down to verse 15 "And יהוה Elohim took the man and put him in the garden of Ěḏen to work it and to guard it". Guard it against what? if God made any and everything for one man and one woman, who would he need to guard it against? just a thought. I think my assumption holds about as true as the assumption they are making in this video that Cain married his sister, which would lead us to try to understand why was Cains sister banished, or not leaving near her parents like Cain and Abel were or their other 60 some odd children and if she wasn't why did "Adam" and "eve" stay near the Garden when they were kicked out and not all the other 60 plus kids? to make the assumption that Cain married his sister is a stretch based on a verse that doesn't even directly or indirectly assume that. The scriptures I provided make more sense, but Christianese will have you believe that there were no other people besides "Adam and eve" created, when I think that there were, but the story of the man and woman from the garden is what the old testament is about, Gods race of people (Israel) which came from that man and woman. however, I advise people to read through the book of Enoch, to truly understand the preadamic race. just a thought. I AM OPEN TO DISCUSSION, but show me facts other than one verse to support your claim, and assumptions. and no new testament, you should be able to prove your point using the "old testament" I say that because you can not use something written years late by factually unknown authors (look it up yourself the catholic church says this) to prove what is "historical" document. Lets start
+Devyn Mimeux There was no pre-Adamic race, regardless of what the book of Enoch (with is not a part of God's Word) says. If people did live and die before Adam, the Gospel would be destroyed (Rom 5:12). Also, see Gen 3:20 - all people came from Eve. If all people didn't come from Adam and Eve it would mean that some people haven't inherited the sin nature, and, therefore, cannot be saved. It may be helpful to read the existing literature on this subject prior to suggesting that a discussion be opened about it. You'll just be rehashing a topic that has already had a lot of thought put into it. For starters see some of the articles here: creation.com/genesis-questions-and-answers
+CMIcreationstation Enoch is an extra-biblical biblically endorsed text. You have no evidence to prove either way that there is and was no preadamic race or creation. You stated a book written from the "New Testament" which was not "Gods" word, you can not prove the old testament by the new testament. I can't even look at that scripture as fact to prove my two scriptures I asked about. the Church itself admits that it does not know who wrote its Gospels and Epistles, confessing that all 27 New Testament writings began life anonymously: "It thus appears that the present titles of the Gospels are not traceable to the evangelists themselves ... they [the New Testament collection] are supplied with titles which, however ancient, do not go back to the respective authors of those writings." (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, pp. 655-6) The Church maintains that "the titles of our Gospels were not intended to indicate authorship", adding that "the headings ... were affixed to them" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. I, p. 117, vol. vi, pp. 655, 656). Therefore, they are not Gospels written "according to Matthew, Mark, Luke or John", as publicly stated. The full force of this confession reveals that there are no genuine apostolic Gospels and that the Church's shadowy writings today embody the very ground and pillar of Christian foundations and faith. The consequences are fatal to the presence of the Divine origin of the entire New Testament and expose Christian texts as having no special authority. For centuries, fabricated Gospels bore Church certification of authenticity now confessed to being false, and this provides evidence that Christian writings are wholly fallacious. After years of dedicated New Testament research, Dr. Tischendorf expressed dismay at the differences between the oldest and newest Gospels and had trouble understanding... "...how scribes could allow themselves to bring in here and their changes which were not simply verbal ones, but such as materially affected the very meaning and, what is worse still, did not shrink from cutting out a passage or inserting one." (Alterations to the Sinai Bible, Dr. Constantin von Tischendorf, 1863, available at the British Library, London) After years of validating the fabricated nature of the New Testament, a disillusioned Dr. Tischendorf confessed that modern-day editions have "been altered in many places" and are "not to be accepted as true" (When Were Our Gospels Written?, Dr. Constantin von Tischendorf, 1865, British Library, London). Genesis 15 clearly states that God placed the man in the garden to till it (in a sense) and GUARD it. My question still remains. if there were nothing but "Adam and Eves" children in or outside of the garden (which we must assume at this point they are in) who or what was "Adam" in the garden to Guard from, additionally, in Genesis 3:24 it states "24and He drove the man out. And He placed keruḇim at the east of the garden of Ěḏen, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life" surely God would not need Kerubim to guard his garden against just Adam and Eve and their 30 plus children unless Adam and Evs 60 plus children were also wicked prior to Cains wickedness, another confusing aspect, it says Adam and Eve were kicked out, but not their 30 plus children. when were the children kicked out and/or banished for Cain to meet his sister? Eve the mother of all living, I get what you're saying and that is an interesting verse, however, my question is if Hawwah (Eve) was the mother of all living, and the next chapter, Genesis 4:1 it states "And Aḏam knew Ḥawwah his wife, and she conceived and bore Qayin, and said, “I have gained a man from יהוה.” logically (in the mind of man) this is in chronological order, so they were kicked out and Eve gave birth to Cain, which scriptures do not state either is the first born or not, but Christians assume Eve is the mother of all as I'm sure we can assume, that this was not the first time Eve and Adam "knew each other (sex), as Gods instructions to them in earlier chapters of Genesis says God told "them" to multiply and be fruitful. so at this point, eve could not have been the mother of all living, as God is the creator of all living right? so let's go to the Sin factor. What is SIN? in this context or any other context, we must determine what SIN is in order to understand. Inherited sinfulness is not one of the curses on Adam. All three parties are cursed by God for doing so, and those curses have lasting consequences for the human race. Fair enough, but note the consequences for Adam. From now (1) growing food will be hard work, and (2) death will be a fact of life. Note what is not said: “And a third thing, Adam. From now on all humanity will be stained by your act, born in a hopeless and helpless state of sin, thus earning my displeasure and making them all objects of my wrath.” If Genesis did say that, it would clear up a lot. But it doesn't, so I don't think sin is inherited behaviour. no where in the old testament does it say that, it actually says that it is a choice, in many situations of the old testament sin is your choice of good or bad, not something you inherit, for example, Cain, God presented him with the choice, to give a good offering or bad offering, he chose badly. Idk just more discussion points.
What about the difference of created man vs formed man see Gen. 1:27 vs Gen. 2:7. God created male and female. Then he formed Adam and breathed life into him. Two different beings. That's where Cains wife came from
+Mike Arthur So, which 'Adam' sinned, and who were that Adam's descendants. If you're not a descendant of that Adam then Christ (the last Adam) cannot save you. (since you haven't inherited a sin nature from which you need to be saved.) Actually, there was only one Adam.
What about Gen 1:27? It reads God created man in his image etc.... Both male and female.... Adam was created from dirt a few verses later and Eve on the next chapter? Please explain because it sounds like God created people prior from Adam....
In Genesis it also says, "Let US make man in OUR image." Deity originally was multiple, a pantheon. Deity is NOT monotheistic as the modern myths would have us believe. And who or what is Deity? Gods? Aliens? No one really knows. All myths originated from somewhere and most had, at one time, some modicum of truth. What truth may have existed in these myths, however, has long since been lost and distorted.
+Michael Gray The one true God is a trinity. Genesis records the conversation between the parts of the single God. For details on the trinity see: creation.com/triune-god
+CMIcreationstation, yes, I am familiar with Christian mythology. However, using the bible to prove the bible is circular reasoning. It proves nothing. Your beliefs are based on faith, not facts. Nothing wrong with that. Magical thinking can prove useful if properly applied.
To Beto Led As I understand it God created man as you said in chapter 1. This was preadamic man. When you get to chapter 2 God looks around and there is no man to till the ground. Then he created Adam. And breathed into him a soul.
@@CMIVideo 👍 Blessings from hearing aided peeps 😁. CMI's ministry's young earth geological and biological explanations, backed by evidence, is helping my faith. I'm not alone.
if it was OK for Cain to merry his sister, then it has to be OK ,for any brother or sister to get married. God can't change his own laws. it's that simple. but why does God judge some and not others?
+Joseph Nash Everyone marries their relative, since everyone is related. The law against marrying *close* relatives was given by God at the time of Moses. Before that time there was no law against it. Even Abraham married his half-sister and it was not wrong at that time. We mention all of this in the video, BTW.
God didn't change, he issued an order during the days of Moses. That's not a change, that's a declaration. he didn't tell Adam and his descendants they couldn't marry siblings then tell them in the days of Moses they couldn't.
@@angrybird2107 They had moral laws buddy.A moral code in their hearts and minds and anything done outside of that moral code is condemned.Sodom and Gomorrah were morally corrupt and righteously bankrupt societies.How hard is that to understand?
this is still saying that God's law's change and adjust over time. there is no way around this. no matter what you say. the bible is a man made book. not God's word.
*JUBILEES 4* :9And Cain took Awan his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. [190-196 A.M.] And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, [197 A.M.] houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch. 10 And Adam knew Eve his wife and she bare yet nine sons.11 And in the fifth week of the fifth jubilee [225-31 A.M.] Seth took Azura his sister to be his wife, and in the fourth (year of the sixth week) [235 A.M.] she bare him Enos.12 He began to call on the NAME of YAHWEH on the earth*.
"You don't inherit two 'genes', one of which might be 'bad' and one of might be 'good'. You inherit two 'alleles'..." Eh, perhaps you should do a little more research before criticizing them. You do realize that an allele is an alternative trait for a gene, right?
What your failing to understand is. Back the early days of creation. Especially before Noah times time. The gene pool much richer than. Than today. I believe that early man had the capabilities of greating all the races of men in one family.
Yes! All the 'races' did come from Adam and Eve, and more recently Noah's family after the Flood. Here are more details on that from a chapter in our Creation Answers Book: creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter18.pdf
Accept the fact that there exist many God as we see today in this world. Cain knew his wife from among the people created by other gods on East of Eden.
@TrustinJC We wish that Christians would stick to the 66 books of the Word of God and stop giving equal authority to other documents (whether historical or scientific), understanding the principle of sola scriptura. For example see: creation.com/loving-god-with-all-your-mind-logic-and-creation
A reasonable explanation, but it doesn't convince me. The whole Genesis creation narrative is symbolic; it contains some profound truths but they are allegorical truths, not historical ones.
My theory of this question is there were already people here on Earth before Adam and Eve it's just my opinion I believe that alot of the Bible was altered they took out what they wanted and they put in what they wanted
The Bible clearly states that God created man kind on the sixth day and then he rested. In chapter 2 he says he noticed that there was no bad to till the soil so he caused a bist to fall over the earth he created from the earth. This was Adam. He created Adam for a special purpose separate from the rest of mankind. That is why the Hebrews are gods people and the rest of humanity is called gentile. This answers your question as to where Kane found his wife.
Nobody FOCUSes on iNCEST Would STRENGTHEN POSTIVE traits. Whatever is inside someone is what comes out, and if they're the same kind of good champions would be bred the same way (Where did we get nobility? Royalty is the nobles protecting royalty becauase the laity wants to group molest consanguinous couples, (obviously), and having telekentic and telepathic powers summons heros at a much faster, farther rate at a continous level (Helphelphelphelp transmitted in your brain and from the planes above reaches miles whereas your voice max scream has a much more limited range, and your throat gives up from screaming after few minutes, hours of nobody physically helping. How did we get Akitas? Breeding for speciilfic traits, hence the worldwide tests to produce more breeders of the same type, which ones give in and those personalty traits will be bred into the children to perpetuity. If you resist them and Daddy marries his little princess, no matter what you have to do and no matter how long it takes, and they have children, those children will be more likely to resist the group rape, molestation as well. A lion wanted to eat me and Ninja saved my life, he died fighting. Respect, and you will be respected.
Or they simply lookedout from the porch of adam and eve basecamp and looked, say, to the north and said "let's calll hat place past the mountain 'nod'" and it was simply called the land of nod, maybe cain and his wife just went there and started a family, and after that a nation formed.
Genetic birth defects tie into evolution? Ya might want to think about that a bit. Genetic defects lead to the very opposite of evolution. For example: creation.com/genetics-no-friend-of-evolution
The genetic drift that scientists observe will never evolve a single cell to a human. The drift takes existing, working systems and breaks them down. See this article for a quick intro: creation.com/the-evolution-trains-a-comin
+CMIcreationstation finished the article. So according to the article in contrast to what were talking about I'm assuming that it is creationists belief that the genetic drift and mutations from Adam are not considered evolution but a biological change within his kind. humankind, and because we cannot observe the train reach Chicago we really cant assume that macroevolution happens. a few challenges to that idea is this: To accept micro evolution and refute macroevolution on the basis of "we dont know because we havent seen it happen" also refutes the scientific evidence. he mentions that somewhere down the line there was no Lungs and somehow the DNA data was added to include lungs and adding information to the genetic code is impossible. (without god im assuming again) but immediately I look at my pet frog next to me. i bet he would have a few words to say. The entire conversation seems to get more and more convoluted and philosophical as we stray from the point Genetic drift and mutation is evolution, Microevolution or macroevolution. you cant have one toe in this club and belong to another.
You seem to have missed the point of the article. Microevolution is observed. Everyone believes in that. The problem for macroevolution believers is that the types of changes that scientists observe are in the wrong direction. Those changes will never lead to macroevolution. In other words, microevolution is science, macroevolution is an unobserved belief not supported by observations.
You may have misunderstood me as well. Of course macro evolution isnt observed. Evidence of its existence is what mainstream science relies on. Not beliefs. To refute macro evolution is to refute a lot of scientific findings. Which creationst do yes. The facts remain clear to me, evolution or the "belief" of it requires a smaller "leap of faith" than the biblical story. Those smaller leaps being scientificly answered as we continue moving forward with human intelligence.
Evolution does not fail. Even creationist scientists like the one mentioned in the article can accept the idea of Microevolution. Evolution is backed by a lot of reasearch and literature that isnt up for skepticism. But ill level with you, im not an athiest or a troll either but wouldnt it make more sense to continue asking questions and pushing for answers instead of believing what were told? If that were the case we would still be burning witches and think the earth was the center of the universe or flat! It was the human need for knowledge that will continue to give answers. Whos to say that the hindus or islam have the real deal, the only reason we know Christianity at least around my parts is because of the murderous spanish inquisition. Wouldnt it make sense to study it all? Science included ? In my opinion there are giant answers that still need answering but no where in my quest have i thought to myself: "I dont know the answer, so it makes sense that a man walked on water and turns water into wine like magic" or "i dont know this, so god definetly is a six armed woman." The leap is too large, the tales in the bible are gigantic and are at least ridiculous. I can visit the homo erectus skull i can visit anthropological sites. But I can tell you as a man of 35 years of age I have always kept and open heart and mind to the idea of god, i invite him her itself to show proof in my life and he has not once made him her itself apperant. At least not the christian one.
I hate to say it but his math is very wrong! He said 10 kids in 20 years so that would mean that the 20th year the youngest child is two years old not old enough to procreate for at least another 10 or 12 years. See you don’t actually have five couples and five couples produced 10 kids in 20 more years is adding 50 more people to the existing 20. So if everybody had 10 kids it ends up really only being about 70 people in 50 years. Even if you quadruple this number you still can’t get thousands of people In 130 years. Listen I am a Christian but I’m gonna wrap this up as this oral story eventually got written down probably incorrectly! I don’t need the old testament anyway to prove anything to me! The New Testament is what saves you not the old!
Thanks for your input. The reason diseases were low and people lived so long is given in the video. We also deal with 'incest' in context. The reason we did this video is to provide solid Biblical answers to this popular question.
Really good explanation. Clear, straight and honest.
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Much appreciation for your work in this area. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the video guys (: Keep it up!
The Bible makes it pretty clear that Cain and Abel were the first children born to Adam and Eve (Genesis 4:1-2). Now, Seth was born to replace Abel (Genesis 4:25), and it's clearly stated that Adam and Eve had more children AFTER Seth was born (Genesis 5:3). Therefore, Cain's wife couldn't have been a relative, because Cain's wife is mentioned in Genesis 4:17, BEFORE Seth was born, and thus, before Eve had other children.
This reminds me of my kids coming up with explanations for the tooth fairy.
Cain is only the 2nd generation, so how is there a city in the land of nod, and nobody asks that question? Who founded the land of Nod and who built the city in the land of Nod. Who populated the city and how many people were in the city when Cain arrived? How old was Cain and other siblings when he traveled to this city?
The Bible gives us sufficient information to know where Cain got his wife. That's why we made the video. :)
True! This is repeated when Noah and seven other were the ONLY SURVIVORS. Millions of people came from just 8 remaining humans from the Ark. I mean Abraham married his half sister and was Promised a son with her. You guys nailed it. I was lambasted after teaching it the same way you guys presented, when I led Bible study just a few week ago. Keep shock em with plain truth from the scriptures brothers. God bless!
if it was morally OK for Cain to marry his sister, then it's morally OK for anyone to marry their own siblings. God can't judge one person and not the other for doing the same thing. this would mean God changes and can't be trusted.
+Joseph Nash It's a good thing that God describes Himself in the Bible. So we don't need to trust people's inventive notions about what God would and wouldn't do.
Wow. I'm quite surprised by your response. Most people who comment on our videos have not done research on the Christian viewpoint regarding these matters and when we encourage them to do some they continue with their ranting. Hats off to you for actually saying that you would look into it. To start with, have a look at Chapter 18 in our Creation Answers Book. You can read the whole book online for free. See: creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter18.pdf
The problem with this explaination is that it relies solely on the book of Genesis. There are, however, many other Old Testament age books that weren't canonized but which speak on this matter. The book of Jubilees and the writings of Enoch are two such books that expand on the story of creation. Genesis gives a simple readers digest version of creation.
I really wish Christians would take off their blind folds and accept the truth that there is much more to God's word than what is in the bible
We are talking about mutations accumulating in the human genome. Please watch the episode again. Everyone else understands what we are explaining. You seem to have missed it.
The 6th day male and female had spread to the land of Nod!
Bless you, Mildred, but discussing the 8th day creation is beyond most so-called christians intelligence level or pay grade.
Peace,something every man wants... if any man says different there are liar,or insane.every one wants a place free from wars,suffering,free of Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech.Peace was there before caused Spacetime sense there was no wars,suffering,no Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech able to take place Before Space and time.therefor,it was a perfect reality,which was filled with Peace,who is Beyond both space time and bound by it.but how did we randomly shift from a perfect reality,into a imperfect one?Adam anyone :P? Jesus is Peace Judges 6:24 and he wish that you Dwell in his everlasting resting place.Isaiah 32:18 Matthew 11:28-30 will you accept Jesus?
The 'after" in Gen 5:4 refers to the years Adam lived after Seth was born. Then there is an additional note mentioning that Adam had other sons and daughters. The Bible does not say that all the other 'sons and daughters' came after Seth.
Yes it does, this is a complete reach, and twisting of the scriptures. It clearly says AFTER Seth, Adam had many other sons and daughters.
Not here to debate, there is no debate, we can all read you are making the scripture say something it clearly does not.
"And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew."
And clearly Seth is the third son. Or will you twist that too?
Good videos guys, keep doing good things.
Moses lived around 1140 BC. The law of against close intermarriage didn't come about until the time of Moses which roughly around 1140 BC. So up to this point, the blood line was still pure enough to not have to deal with birth defects?
the laws given to Israel at that time were necessary for their future. whether there would have been defects then or not does not matter, but that there would later be defects if they did not follow the law. the Lord protects His children
This makes sense!
So that we can screen out hateful/angry comments like your previous one.
The Bible certainly does support that Cain's wife was a close relative. Follow the logic: Adam and Eve were the only people that God created (Gen 3:20). They had sons and daughters. (Gen 5:4) Therefore, the sons and daughters must have married each other. The biological and moral issues associated with close intermarriage TODAY were not an issue back then, for the reasons we mentioned.
We know that "where there is no law, there can be no sin" (what is 'sin'? 1 John 3:4).
Since a pagan king pleaded with Abraham when he fell under a curse when Abraham and his wife had hid her marriage status to pretending to be his sister for fear of her being taken and he being killed, saying that a sin had been committed, there must have been a law against taking another man's wife.
There are numerous other implications of a known law before Exodus.
Are we to assume that this particular law was only added at Exodus?
The Bible does not specify when the "other sons and daughters" were born. Seth is a replacement for Abel. Is is very likely that some of the sons and daughters were both between Abel and Seth.
It may be best to closely examine 'after'.
"Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years, and he had other sons and daughters."
The 'after' refers to how long Adam lived after Seth was born. The there is a comma, a break, and a note that he had other sons and daughters. The text does not 'clearly' say that all of the 'others' were born after Seth.
This video answers some of your questions. For answers to your questions not covered in this video visit creation.com
The word translated "giants" in the KJV is best understood as 'giant in character', like celebrities. Not giant in stature. Elsewhere it is translated as 'men of renown'.
@cpepe223 Please read the chapter in the Answers Book (linked in the video description) for more details. (The video is only a summary) People need to be descendants of Adam to be saved.
Technically, if we weren't descended from Adam we wouldn't inherit the Adamic sin and wouldn't need to be saved.
On the other hand, if God raised Adam and Eve from a pre-Adamite population, then intermarriage over thousands of years would spread the bloodline through the entire population and we would be descendants of Adam anyway.
And those children would've had children and their children would've had children and their children probably would've had children in that 130 year timeframe.
The word "giant" can be understood in different ways. For example, "Winston Churchill was a giant of a man." There the word "giant" is not referring to physical size. It is referring to his character and accomplishments.
Seth was born 130 years after the creation Cain and Abel were probably born for five years after the creation there were thousands of people when Cain went to find a wife
Nope. Adam and Eve did NOT reproduce until they left the garden.
@@thetruthchannel349 And?...What's your point?
And either way, it doesn't matter, as Seth was born to replace Abel, and Cain married before Seth's birth.
"Naaah it's o.k. for a brother and sister to sleep with each other just this time, as hey, there's no one else on the planet... better make the best of a bad job". The message here? Gross behaviour when driven by a lack of other options is fine boys and girls, but if a law is written and it becomes illegal, you'll get in to trouble so don't do it then. If there's NO law AND a lack of alternatives, go right ahead.
bangzoom26 Everyone is related (we all go back to Adam and Eve) so everyone 'sleeps with' their relatives. God is the moral Law Giver, not the government. At the time of Moses He gave a law that forbid close relatives to marry. That's the reason that you consider it "gross behaviour". Today it IS wrong to sleep with your close relative.
Actually 3:20 doesn’t rule out the theory that other people were living in Nod when Cain arrived....
Remember when he was expelled in Genesis 4:16.... it says he went to Nod *SOLO*
No mention of an entourage or even one traveling companion. Also Genesis 5:4 doesn’t mean that these daughters accompanied Cain on his way to Nod. All it does say is Adam had other sons and daughters....
To make that argument is a classic non sequitur.... also to consider is why would anyone travel with someone they know to be a murderer?
The verse I want to key on is Genesis 4:14
Cain says that he shall be a fugitive and a wanderer....and whoever finds him would kill him.
If Nod is unpopulated when Cain arrives there....who would be there to have an opportunity to kill him?
Based on all this I argue that the land of Nod was populated at the time of Cain’s arrival and with people *unrelated* to Adam.
Buddy,your argument is all over the place and classic cheery picking purposfully out of context...
Yup. That's what it says. So what does this have to do with where Cain got his wife?
the original word used to describe cains wife is ishshah which means woman/female/wife. since woman means "from man" and adam was the first man then the wife of cain had to have come out of adam and eve since all children are born in the same manner
I don't again with the answers offered...for Cain was banished from his parents Adam and Eve....And went to the Land of Nod...there was no city, since he was the first builder in which he named Enoch....The inhabitants lived in caves and taught him of the makings of tools and weapons. Land of Nod (Nod meaning No Where...wilderness, void) is were the Fallen ones dwelled and God placed a mark upon him, therefore he would not be killed by the inhabitants of the land for Cain was human and in the image of God and the fallen ones feared the wrath of God...Adam new of his mate Eve and produced another son in which they named Seth and after had other children but names where not mention due to the lineage from Seth was chosen to to be one of Gods chosen people. Cains lineage was taught all what the Fallen ones had bestowed upon him and his kind..which produced Hybrids and Giants and begin to devour mankind and filled the Earth with unspeakable Sin, which angered God and invoked Gods wrath...in turn having to wipe mankind from the face of the earth, until he saw favor in Noah who was righteous in his time, mind you not with out sin, but righteous and called upon God. Therefore God made Noah the Second Adam and his sons....food for thought!
So, given your interpretation of the text, where did Cain get his wife?
Cain married his sister Awan (Jubilees 4) There’s was no law of incest and he built a city for Satan and gave his daughters to the fallen angels.
What? Where did you get that from? The Bible doesn't support it and no one at CMI has ever said that. People are normally curious about how Cain got ONE wife.
While it is POSSIBLE for God to have created a wife for Cain in the same way that He created Adam's, can you point to Scripture to support it? Just because something is possible for God does not mean that that is the way He did it. We need to develop answers to these types of questions within a Biblical framework, not speculating about what God could have done. In that case there would be no end to speculation.
The bible clear says cuz Eve sin he will increase birth pain,, which means she already had kids just not a painful birth, we don't know how many yrs were they living in the garden b4 they got kicked out, which means they cud of had btwn 1-100 kids, maybe Cain did married a sister or even a cousin however back then it wasn't a sin cuz God said to be multiply, so God gave them the permission to take their sisters for wife's cuz there was no other way to multiply unless u married ur own sister. Later on in Leviticus 18 u can c how God say u can no long take a sister as wife (putting it in simple words) time in those days was very different then today. Human today r the one that have change & misconstrued everything to confuse pplz mostly for their self benefits. But instead of listening to others just pray & ask for wisdom knowledge & understanding & I can bet it will come to u from God our true teacher, he has open my eyes he can open urs. God bless u all!!
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Given the estimated number of people at the time of the Flood, and the total volume of sediment deposited by the Flood we would expect to find one human in every 70 cubic km. In other words, we don't really expect to find any human fossils of the people who lived at the time of the Flood. There's lots of other data that supports dinos living with humans.
Carbon dating has nothing to do with millions of years. See: creation dot com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter4.pdf
Yup. Are you the type of person who believes that hydrogen gas, if left around for billions of years becomes people?
I come from a Muslim society where this is a fundamental question too i.e. "Where did Cain find his wife?" The explanation that has been provided here in this video is similar to the explanation provided by Ibn Abbas and Ibn Masud, the two renowned early Koran scholars and companions of Islamic Prophet Muhammad during Prophet's lifetime. It is said that the prohibition on incest was taught to mankind by later Prophets like Prophet Moses and Prophet Jesus long after the time of Prophet Adam (regarded as first prophet in Islam). For those who are curious, here is a resourceful link about the Islamic interpretation on this issue. www.islamreligion.com/articles/1197/story-of-adam-part-4/
right,he. took one of him sisters,no dating websites then
Maybe you should look closer.. In the bible ..in joshua it says "if you want to know more about the lineage look in the book of jasher"
people don't actually..believe this stuff do they? like....they think this is...fact?...based on what
You think this is false?...based on what.
See the chapter in the Creation Answers Book for details: creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter8.pdf
This question is not new. We get this all the time, and there are answers freely available on creation dot com. Please see the articles here: creation dot com/noahs-ark-questions-and-answers
Eight people survived the Flood. Incest has never been OK with God. 'Incest' refers to a broken relationship, there's something wrong with the relationship. God's plan was one man for one woman for life. This video deals with these issues. Did you even watch it?
The "after" refers to how long Adam lived after the birth of Seth. (800 years).
Do you have any Biblical support for that?
+CMIcreationstation, have you ever thought maybe adam and eve weren't the 1st and they represent the 1st parents on earth? cain knew his wife and so did seth because they both married enoch's daughters,this is why both cain and seth's 1st born son is name enoch/enosh. as all the men in genesis,your 1st wife had to be a half- sister and your 2nd wife had to be a patrillneal cousin in which you had to name the child after the cousin/wife's father. example:abraham and sarah were half siblings and abraham and keturah were patrillneal cousins. abraham and keturah's 1st born was named after keturah's father.
the marriage pattern was done because of the edenic promise,the promise that a female along their bloodline would produce the seed of god. they were protecting their bloodline by not having children by outsiders. i read that they were pretty smart in their planning when it came to having children with their patrillneal cousins,they would marry not the 1st born cousin but the 15th. this was all planned and as a matter of fact once jesus was born they stopped their specific marriage patterns. by the way The Land of Nod is in Nigeria, Enoch was the tribal ruler in the land of nod. cain and seth were married and we know this because you had to marry your half-sibling 1st. if you look at all the men in genesis you will see the marriage pattern. look at abraham and sarah they were half-siblings then later abraham married keturah his patrillneal cousin
thanks and keep up the wonderful conversations
+airlia dazen How do you know Cain and Seth both married Enoch's daughters?
+CMIcreationstation, as clarification you are correct the bible says we all come from adam/eve. so,if adam/eve were the 1st then this puts them living some where around +2million yrs. ago,which means cain wouldn't fit in. cain was a metal-worker and built territories,metal work started 13,000 yrs ago but not 2 or even 1 million years ago. also, cain and seth married their patrillneal cousin enoch's daughters. cain and seth's uncle was enoch,but adam was the 1st,no other before him. read genesis 4-5 and psalms 8:4 and you get the real picture that adam and eve are archtypes but enoch is are closet ancestor,what some +10,300 years ago? people back then mixed archetypes with historical people. the greeks did also,but it doesnt mean archetypes didnt exist.
abraham's people had specific marriage practice because of the edenic promise that a woman amo g them would carry the seed,the seed of god...genesis is about the nilo/proto-saharans,abraham's ancestors............blessings to you
+airlia dazen Where in the Bible do you get the idea that Adam and Eve lived 2 million years ago. If you look at the Bible's timing they lived about 6000 year ago.
I'm confused about your perspective on the absence of the law permitted marrying close relatives. If your position is correct lying,coveting, stealing,rape and all other abdominal acts were legal before moses....Right?
Why then does good destroy Sod and Gom
Why did God curse Ham
Why did God cursed Cain
Wrong. There were laws before Moses. The law against close intermarriage wasn't one of them.
hey yeah he's right. verse 4 says "the days of Adam AFTER he became the father of Seth were 800 yrs; and he had other sons and daughters." that means they were born after Seth and between that time and 800, cuz he crokes at 930 yrs. wow I totally didn't notice that. lol
I believe what Genesis 1:26 says, that on the Sixth day God created mankind, that He created "them" male and female, unless Adam and Eve were created on the same day, I believe God created people on the sixth day, and I believe the story of the Bible focuses specifically on the family line of Adam and Eve.
In Matthew 15, there is an incident , Jesus was traveling through Tyre and Sidon, a Gentile region, and “a Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, ‘Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly’” (Matthew 15:22). This Gentile woman recognized Jesus as the Messiah (“Son of David”), but “Jesus did not answer a word” (verse 23). As the woman kept up her appeals, Jesus finally responded, but His words seemed to hold little hope: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel” (verse 24). However, the woman did not give up, and Jesus eventually granted her request, based on her “great faith” (verse 28).
Why Jesus did not recognize a Gentile as valid for salvation is the reason why Genesis 3:20 says Eve is the mother of all who live, not all, but all of one kind, that is the family line of Adam and Eve.
The "them" who God created male and female is Adam and Eve.
CMIcreationstation
Ok, it also says they were created on the sixth day, so was Adam and Eve created on the same day? Did God create Adam in the morning, then Adam feels lonely and God creates Eve in the afternoon?
Yes, Adam and Eve were both created on Day 6. There was quite a lot of activity on Day 6. Here's a couple of articles that work through the details: creation.com/naming-the-animals-all-in-a-day-s-work-for-adam and creation.com/fitting-everything-in-on-the-6th-day
" I believe the story of the Bible focuses specifically on the family line of Adam and Eve.", that's what your prospective, right?
Dude? That is 1000% wrong. That is NOT why Jesus did not recognize the Gentile as able to partake of Salvation. Gentiles had NO COVENANT with God. Only ISRAEL. And CHRIST was ONLY SENT to the HOUSE of ISRAEL. That seed war garbage is Christian Sci-fi. Not Scripture.
how exactly was adam created from dirt?
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***** What's the problem? You think miracles cannot happen because we live in an age of science? Not so. See: creation.com/miracles-and-science
+Frater Tyskos Peace,something every man wants... if any man says different there are liar,or insane.every one wants a place free from wars,suffering,free of Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech.Peace was there before caused Spacetime sense there was no wars,suffering,no Decay,no lost,no crying,or abusive speech able to take place Before Space and time.therefor,sense there no Time,matter,or energy Peace it self is not bound by space and Time,which means it's *everlastingly Miraculous*.the God of the bible is Peace Judges 6:24 and he wish that you Dwell in his everlasting resting place.Isaiah 32:18 Matthew 11:28-30 will you accept Jesus?
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that doesen´t answer my question. do i speak chinese? oder soll ich die frage auf deutsch stellen? cheers
Actually, the days in Genesis are normal Earth-rotation days. See: creationdotcom/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter2.pdf
(I meant to say, 'sleeping with his sister'!). You say, 'Because the Bible doesn't support it'. Neither does the Bible support your theory. The Bible does *not* say, 'Cain slept with his sister'. It says quite clearly that he slept with his *wife*. Now if 'wife' *actually* means 'sister', I think you might perhaps understand why some people consider reading scripture somewhat pointless! So I think my interpretation is more reasnoble than yours!!
I would like to say something different if I may. It's purely fuctional? The King Father of us All could only bear Suns, but here in the Garden there was already another creation, because the creator created many children creators. He came into his daughter Gaia's creation, she gave birth to Eve a daughter and Adam found her very pleasing. The Father Married Adam and Eve and they were of two separate races. A Canine and an Neanderthal, but there was another creation, a Dinosaur. It to was filled with hunger for flesh, both as food and desire. I took Eve and and shower her pleasure and taste of blood. Grandfather watched and decided to let this play out, like sometimes if you watch your dog trying to mount the vacuum, he was slightly amused. Grandfather wasn't a control freak, he was a master of curiosity. The Dinosaur convinced Eve to carry his Eggs known as Seth and Lilith. They were shunned by Adam because of their appetite for His Sons and Daughters when there were plenty of beasts as prey. We were different from the beast, because of our Grandfather's gift of the light body. Seth and Lilith were cold and dark inside, and jealous of the Light Body. They cursed their mother Eve for not giving them the eternal spark, and are using technology try and capture that light.
There's more!
+Mark Pate What colour is the sky in your world?
Lol
It seems to me that there were only two humanoid groups on the earth in the beginning: human beings and fallen angels. Later, some human beings and fallen angels mated creating the nephilim who were giants. Adam and Eve could not have been the only humans created at this time. There must have been some humans living outside of Eden. Only this could explain the various nations on the earth. If this is so, then some information has been removed from the Bible perhaps by mistake or for more nefarious reasons.
Touché - well i do intend on doing research in the future but still my understanding is that 2 people cannot populate the earth if they did how is there so much variation ie black white asian ???
This is what I think. The punishment for sister and brother having sex is banishment( given to Moses) and Cain was already banished for murdering his brother Able) I think Cain took his sister (willing or no). This seems obvious to me, but an interesting thought is, that this turn of events might allow Seth ( the replacement for Abel) to marry a COUSIN ( through Cain and his sister/wife) who is 2 generations further away from from Seth (this is strictly conjecture on my part) and thereby avoid breaking the Mosaic Law( even though it wasn't given yet). The irony is that if this is accurate, then Cain's disobedience produced the the situation that allowed his second brother Seth to marry Cain's Granddaughter (or Great) Who would be Seth's cousin and so still be in the right right. By the way , the Lord Jesus is descended from Seth and not Cain.
The Bible has been translated and rewritten many times and for many reasons. It seems obvious that there is some missing information throughout the entire Bible. Some books such as the Book of Enoch should have been included in the the Bible but were not. It does not seem logical that all humans came from Adam and Eve as there as many nationalities on this earth. Perhaps something was lost in translation?
Thank you for the video fellas! I hope I can aid in the journey to answer this question. The Greek meaning for "Nod" is "wandering." So the Land of Nod was meant to describe the wandering of Cain, which, to tie this all together, allowed enough time to pass for Adam's daughters to increase in number. Cain most likely wandered for hundreds of years before finding his wife and then building Enoch...the Chronology matches the story :)
Praise to you for continuing in God's will!
Genesis 4:14-15 show there were already men in those cities when Cain was cast from Eden.
Regards.
huh? Cain was worried he's be killed by the people of the earth, he also found a wife in the land of Nod. What is this sister business?
Who gave birth to the nords if so ???
You guys clearly don't know much about genetics. You don't inherit two 'genes', one of which might be 'bad' and one of might be 'good'. You inherit two 'alleles', some mutant alleles could be dominant, some could be recessive. Organisms also don't have a filter to determine which is dominant or recessive based on which might have a negative phenotypic effect. Seriously, I wouldn't advise talking about subjects you clearly know nothing about.
correction:mary and joseph are not mentioned in genesis but their ancestors are...sorry😉
If Adam and eve had other children and people assume that Cain married a sister, then that would mean that all of Adam and eves other children were also banished from the garden and even the surrounding area like Cain, (because Adam and eve and their "children" were removed from the garden by this time) so an even bigger question, why were Adam and eve other children banished or not leaving near their parents like Cain and Abel were?
Secondly, let's consider a few verses before we assume Cain married his "sister"
Genesis 1:7 And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him - male and female He created them. (keyword, them could be more than one or just the first man and woman, mind you the Hebrew does not specify "Adam" it actually says "ADM" which is the Hebrew word for man. Christianity gave the first man a name, (and Eve actually had a name and it wasn't Eve, it was חַוָּה Chawwah).
now let's jump down to verse 15 "And יהוה Elohim took the man and put him in the garden of Ěḏen to work it and to guard it". Guard it against what? if God made any and everything for one man and one woman, who would he need to guard it against? just a thought. I think my assumption holds about as true as the assumption they are making in this video that Cain married his sister, which would lead us to try to understand why was Cains sister banished, or not leaving near her parents like Cain and Abel were or their other 60 some odd children and if she wasn't why did "Adam" and "eve" stay near the Garden when they were kicked out and not all the other 60 plus kids? to make the assumption that Cain married his sister is a stretch based on a verse that doesn't even directly or indirectly assume that. The scriptures I provided make more sense, but Christianese will have you believe that there were no other people besides "Adam and eve" created, when I think that there were, but the story of the man and woman from the garden is what the old testament is about, Gods race of people (Israel) which came from that man and woman. however, I advise people to read through the book of Enoch, to truly understand the preadamic race. just a thought. I AM OPEN TO DISCUSSION, but show me facts other than one verse to support your claim, and assumptions. and no new testament, you should be able to prove your point using the "old testament" I say that because you can not use something written years late by factually unknown authors (look it up yourself the catholic church says this) to prove what is "historical" document. Lets start
+Devyn Mimeux There was no pre-Adamic race, regardless of what the book of Enoch (with is not a part of God's Word) says. If people did live and die before Adam, the Gospel would be destroyed (Rom 5:12). Also, see Gen 3:20 - all people came from Eve. If all people didn't come from Adam and Eve it would mean that some people haven't inherited the sin nature, and, therefore, cannot be saved.
It may be helpful to read the existing literature on this subject prior to suggesting that a discussion be opened about it. You'll just be rehashing a topic that has already had a lot of thought put into it. For starters see some of the articles here: creation.com/genesis-questions-and-answers
+CMIcreationstation Enoch is an extra-biblical biblically endorsed text. You have no evidence to prove either way that there is and was no preadamic race or creation. You stated a book written from the "New Testament" which was not "Gods" word, you can not prove the old testament by the new testament. I can't even look at that scripture as fact to prove my two scriptures I asked about. the Church itself admits that it does not know who wrote its Gospels and Epistles, confessing that all 27 New Testament writings began life anonymously:
"It thus appears that the present titles of the Gospels are not traceable to the evangelists themselves ... they [the New Testament collection] are supplied with titles which, however ancient, do not go back to the respective authors of those writings."
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, pp. 655-6)
The Church maintains that "the titles of our Gospels were not intended to indicate authorship", adding that "the headings ... were affixed to them" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. I, p. 117, vol. vi, pp. 655, 656). Therefore, they are not Gospels written "according to Matthew, Mark, Luke or John", as publicly stated. The full force of this confession reveals that there are no genuine apostolic Gospels and that the Church's shadowy writings today embody the very ground and pillar of Christian foundations and faith.
The consequences are fatal to the presence of the Divine origin of the entire New Testament and expose Christian texts as having no special authority. For centuries, fabricated Gospels bore Church certification of authenticity now confessed to being false, and this provides evidence that Christian writings are wholly fallacious.
After years of dedicated New Testament research, Dr. Tischendorf expressed dismay at the differences between the oldest and newest Gospels and had trouble understanding...
"...how scribes could allow themselves to bring in here and their changes which were not simply verbal ones, but such as materially affected the very meaning and, what is worse still, did not shrink from cutting out a passage or inserting one."
(Alterations to the Sinai Bible, Dr. Constantin von Tischendorf, 1863, available at the British Library, London)
After years of validating the fabricated nature of the New Testament, a disillusioned Dr. Tischendorf confessed that modern-day editions have "been altered in many places" and are "not to be accepted as true" (When Were Our Gospels Written?, Dr. Constantin von Tischendorf, 1865, British Library, London).
Genesis 15 clearly states that God placed the man in the garden to till it (in a sense) and GUARD it. My question still remains. if there were nothing but "Adam and Eves" children in or outside of the garden (which we must assume at this point they are in) who or what was "Adam" in the garden to Guard from, additionally, in Genesis 3:24 it states "24and He drove the man out. And He placed keruḇim at the east of the garden of Ěḏen, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life" surely God would not need Kerubim to guard his garden against just Adam and Eve and their 30 plus children unless Adam and Evs 60 plus children were also wicked prior to Cains wickedness, another confusing aspect, it says Adam and Eve were kicked out, but not their 30 plus children. when were the children kicked out and/or banished for Cain to meet his sister?
Eve the mother of all living, I get what you're saying and that is an interesting verse, however, my question is if Hawwah (Eve) was the mother of all living, and the next chapter, Genesis 4:1 it states "And Aḏam knew Ḥawwah his wife, and she conceived and bore Qayin, and said, “I have gained a man from יהוה.” logically (in the mind of man) this is in chronological order, so they were kicked out and Eve gave birth to Cain, which scriptures do not state either is the first born or not, but Christians assume Eve is the mother of all as I'm sure we can assume, that this was not the first time Eve and Adam "knew each other (sex), as Gods instructions to them in earlier chapters of Genesis says God told "them" to multiply and be fruitful. so at this point, eve could not have been the mother of all living, as God is the creator of all living right? so let's go to the Sin factor. What is SIN? in this context or any other context, we must determine what SIN is in order to understand. Inherited sinfulness is not one of the curses on Adam. All three parties are cursed by God for doing so, and those curses have lasting consequences for the human race.
Fair enough, but note the consequences for Adam. From now (1) growing food will be hard work, and (2) death will be a fact of life.
Note what is not said: “And a third thing, Adam. From now on all humanity will be stained by your act, born in a hopeless and helpless state of sin, thus earning my displeasure and making them all objects of my wrath.” If Genesis did say that, it would clear up a lot. But it doesn't, so I don't think sin is inherited behaviour. no where in the old testament does it say that, it actually says that it is a choice, in many situations of the old testament sin is your choice of good or bad, not something you inherit, for example, Cain, God presented him with the choice, to give a good offering or bad offering, he chose badly. Idk just more discussion points.
+Devyn Mimeux Oh, well if that's the case then just go ahead and make something up. You'll never know what the truth is.
sorry but cain's wife could not have been his sister or a relative or there would have only been one blood group on earth
What about the difference of created man vs formed man see Gen. 1:27 vs Gen. 2:7. God created male and female. Then he formed Adam and breathed life into him. Two different beings. That's where Cains wife came from
+Mike Arthur So, which 'Adam' sinned, and who were that Adam's descendants. If you're not a descendant of that Adam then Christ (the last Adam) cannot save you. (since you haven't inherited a sin nature from which you need to be saved.) Actually, there was only one Adam.
What about Gen 1:27? It reads God created man in his image etc.... Both male and female.... Adam was created from dirt a few verses later and Eve on the next chapter? Please explain because it sounds like God created people prior from Adam....
In Genesis it also says, "Let US make man in OUR image." Deity originally was multiple, a pantheon. Deity is NOT monotheistic as the modern myths would have us believe. And who or what is Deity? Gods? Aliens? No one really knows. All myths originated from somewhere and most had, at one time, some modicum of truth. What truth may have existed in these myths, however, has long since been lost and distorted.
+Michael Gray The one true God is a trinity. Genesis records the conversation between the parts of the single God. For details on the trinity see: creation.com/triune-god
+CMIcreationstation, yes, I am familiar with Christian mythology. However, using the bible to prove the bible is circular reasoning. It proves nothing. Your beliefs are based on faith, not facts. Nothing wrong with that. Magical thinking can prove useful if properly applied.
+Michael Gray Actually, Christianity is based on facts. The fact of creation, the fact the Jesus lived, died, was resurrected and lives today.
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As I understand it God created man as you said in chapter 1. This was preadamic man. When you get to chapter 2 God looks around and there is no man to till the ground. Then he created Adam. And breathed into him a soul.
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Done.
@@CMIVideo 👍 Blessings from hearing aided peeps 😁. CMI's ministry's young earth geological and biological explanations, backed by evidence, is helping my faith. I'm not alone.
if it was OK for Cain to merry his sister, then it has to be OK ,for any brother or sister to get married. God can't change his own laws. it's that simple. but why does God judge some and not others?
+Joseph Nash Everyone marries their relative, since everyone is related. The law against marrying *close* relatives was given by God at the time of Moses. Before that time there was no law against it. Even Abraham married his half-sister and it was not wrong at that time. We mention all of this in the video, BTW.
God didn't change, he issued an order during the days of Moses. That's not a change, that's a declaration. he didn't tell Adam and his descendants they couldn't marry siblings then tell them in the days of Moses they couldn't.
God's idea's are eternal. incest would always be wrong.
+Joseph Nash God's plan is one man for one woman for life. Abusive incestuous relationships have always been wrong.
Joseph Nash exactly, why did God destroy sodom when they had no laws to guide them?
@@angrybird2107 They had moral laws buddy.A moral code in their hearts and minds and anything done outside of that moral code is condemned.Sodom and Gomorrah were morally corrupt and righteously bankrupt societies.How hard is that to understand?
Many thanks for your clarification - I hadn't thought about the implications for Gen 3:20 if my theory was right!
this is still saying that God's law's change and adjust over time. there is no way around this. no matter what you say. the bible is a man made book. not God's word.
+Joseph Nash All it means is that the way you imagine God to be is not the way that He is.
GODis THE Author of THE BIBLE (2 Tim3:16)=All Scripture is God-breathed., (2Peter1:21).😊
+Joseph Nash Check out my post above. I bet you didn't think of that, did you ?
+Joseph Nash That's BS. Keep telling yourself that. You'll see how wrong you are on Judgment Day.:)
Prove to me that will happen. Give me some actual evidence.
*JUBILEES 4* :9And Cain took Awan his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. [190-196 A.M.] And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, [197 A.M.] houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch.
10 And Adam knew Eve his wife and she bare yet nine sons.11 And in the fifth week of the fifth jubilee [225-31 A.M.] Seth took Azura his sister to be his wife, and in the fourth (year of the sixth week) [235 A.M.] she bare him Enos.12 He began to call on the NAME of YAHWEH on the earth*.
And thats why Jubilees is not considered a Scriptural text. Its only worth is in its historical records of the day it wasnt written for.
Because the Bible doesn't support it. Everyone is related. So all husbands sleep with their relatives.
I'll re ask his question and I hope that I won't be answered with another question. Do you believe that the Earth is less than 10 thousand years old?
Yes.Not only that but reality itself is less than 10,000 years old not only the earth.
they both married their twin sisters.
This makes sense
"You don't inherit two 'genes', one of which might be 'bad' and one of might be 'good'. You inherit two 'alleles'..."
Eh, perhaps you should do a little more research before criticizing them. You do realize that an allele is an alternative trait for a gene, right?
What your failing to understand is. Back the early days of creation. Especially before Noah times time. The gene pool much richer than. Than today. I believe that early man had the capabilities of greating all the races of men in one family.
Yes! All the 'races' did come from Adam and Eve, and more recently Noah's family after the Flood. Here are more details on that from a chapter in our Creation Answers Book: creation.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter18.pdf
God put dinosaurs in the ground because they happened to be wandering around when he flooded the Earth.
Accept the fact that there exist many God as we see today in this world.
Cain knew his wife from among the people created by other gods on East of Eden.
@TrustinJC We wish that Christians would stick to the 66 books of the Word of God and stop giving equal authority to other documents (whether historical or scientific), understanding the principle of sola scriptura. For example see: creation.com/loving-god-with-all-your-mind-logic-and-creation
I believe that Cain married one of the Nepherlem & Seth married one of his sisters
There's another Mormon for ya...
A reasonable explanation, but it doesn't convince me. The whole Genesis creation narrative is symbolic; it contains some profound truths but they are allegorical truths, not historical ones.
My theory of this question is there were already people here on Earth before Adam and Eve it's just my opinion I believe that alot of the Bible was altered they took out what they wanted and they put in what they wanted
That's a Mormon talkin right there...
The Bible clearly states that God created man kind on the sixth day and then he rested. In chapter 2 he says he noticed that there was no bad to till the soil so he caused a bist to fall over the earth he created from the earth. This was Adam. He created Adam for a special purpose separate from the rest of mankind. That is why the Hebrews are gods people and the rest of humanity is called gentile. This answers your question as to where Kane found his wife.
Nobody FOCUSes on iNCEST Would STRENGTHEN POSTIVE traits. Whatever is inside someone is what comes out, and if they're the same kind of good champions would be bred the same way (Where did we get nobility? Royalty is the nobles protecting royalty becauase the laity wants to group molest consanguinous couples, (obviously), and having telekentic and telepathic powers summons heros at a much faster, farther rate at a continous level (Helphelphelphelp transmitted in your brain and from the planes above reaches miles whereas your voice max scream has a much more limited range, and your throat gives up from screaming after few minutes, hours of nobody physically helping.
How did we get Akitas?
Breeding for speciilfic traits, hence the worldwide tests to produce more breeders of the same type, which ones give in and those personalty traits will be bred into the children to perpetuity.
If you resist them and Daddy marries his little princess, no matter what you have to do and no matter how long it takes, and they have children, those children will be more likely to resist the group rape, molestation as well.
A lion wanted to eat me and Ninja saved my life, he died fighting. Respect, and you will be respected.
It was his sister. They had way better DNA back then
Couldnt have been. Cain was no longer apart of that family or those lands. He left.
Abraham and Sarah were half brother and sister...
Or they simply lookedout from the porch of adam and eve basecamp and looked, say, to the north and said "let's calll hat place past the mountain 'nod'" and it was simply called the land of nod, maybe cain and his wife just went there and started a family, and after that a nation formed.
Genetic birth defects? Do you know what that also ties into? EVOLUTION.
Genetic birth defects tie into evolution? Ya might want to think about that a bit. Genetic defects lead to the very opposite of evolution. For example: creation.com/genetics-no-friend-of-evolution
Genetics and evolution have nothing to do with each other.
wouldnt genetic drift and deviations from the original "very good" blueprint be a tad bit Evolutionary?
The genetic drift that scientists observe will never evolve a single cell to a human. The drift takes existing, working systems and breaks them down. See this article for a quick intro: creation.com/the-evolution-trains-a-comin
+CMIcreationstation finished the article. So according to the article in contrast to what were talking about I'm assuming that it is creationists belief that the genetic drift and mutations from Adam are not considered evolution but a biological change within his kind. humankind, and because we cannot observe the train reach Chicago we really cant assume that macroevolution happens. a few challenges to that idea is this: To accept micro evolution and refute macroevolution on the basis of "we dont know because we havent seen it happen" also refutes the scientific evidence. he mentions that somewhere down the line there was no Lungs and somehow the DNA data was added to include lungs and adding information to the genetic code is impossible. (without god im assuming again) but immediately I look at my pet frog next to me. i bet he would have a few words to say. The entire conversation seems to get more and more convoluted and philosophical as we stray from the point Genetic drift and mutation is evolution, Microevolution or macroevolution. you cant have one toe in this club and belong to another.
You seem to have missed the point of the article. Microevolution is observed. Everyone believes in that. The problem for macroevolution believers is that the types of changes that scientists observe are in the wrong direction. Those changes will never lead to macroevolution. In other words, microevolution is science, macroevolution is an unobserved belief not supported by observations.
You may have misunderstood me as well. Of course macro evolution isnt observed. Evidence of its existence is what mainstream science relies on. Not beliefs. To refute macro evolution is to refute a lot of scientific findings. Which creationst do yes. The facts remain clear to me, evolution or the "belief" of it requires a smaller "leap of faith" than the biblical story. Those smaller leaps being scientificly answered as we continue moving forward with human intelligence.
Evolution does not fail. Even creationist scientists like the one mentioned in the article can accept the idea of Microevolution. Evolution is backed by a lot of reasearch and literature that isnt up for skepticism. But ill level with you, im not an athiest or a troll either but wouldnt it make more sense to continue asking questions and pushing for answers instead of believing what were told? If that were the case we would still be burning witches and think the earth was the center of the universe or flat! It was the human need for knowledge that will continue to give answers. Whos to say that the hindus or islam have the real deal, the only reason we know Christianity at least around my parts is because of the murderous spanish inquisition. Wouldnt it make sense to study it all? Science included ? In my opinion there are giant answers that still need answering but no where in my quest have i thought to myself: "I dont know the answer, so it makes sense that a man walked on water and turns water into wine like magic" or "i dont know this, so god definetly is a six armed woman." The leap is too large, the tales in the bible are gigantic and are at least ridiculous. I can visit the homo erectus skull i can visit anthropological sites. But I can tell you as a man of 35 years of age I have always kept and open heart and mind to the idea of god, i invite him her itself to show proof in my life and he has not once made him her itself apperant. At least not the christian one.
Can;s wife was his Great or 2nd great niece
What's your basis for this conclusion? Just wondering...
Where's Calvin Smith these days?
I hate to say it but his math is very wrong! He said 10 kids in 20 years so that would mean that the 20th year the youngest child is two years old not old enough to procreate for at least another 10 or 12 years. See you don’t actually have five couples and five couples produced 10 kids in 20 more years is adding 50 more people to the existing 20. So if everybody had 10 kids it ends up really only being about 70 people in 50 years. Even if you quadruple this number you still can’t get thousands of people In 130 years. Listen I am a Christian but I’m gonna wrap this up as this oral story eventually got written down probably incorrectly! I don’t need the old testament anyway to prove anything to me! The New Testament is what saves you not the old!