Exactly. Also states that today's SOTA models don't require specific prompt structures. Then the demoed Anthropic prompt has the typical Anthropic XML style markers such as .
I actually love that I came across this. I have an interview soon for prompt engineering, and frankly what I do with AI is communicate with it, to get outcomes and outputs I want. It take trial and error, but for me the conversation helps me with all the skills you mentioned; thinking clearly, asking better questions, figuring out exactly what I want/need.
Fun thing to do is to create a prompt that works then ask ChatGPT to show you what the prompt looks like in Python Code. Then save the code with a name (e.g., code_search_statement). Then, ask to modify the code so ChatGPT will ask you questions that will inform details needed for the code (e.g., search terms, reminder to upload a file, etc.). Then, when you need to redo this prompt just ask to execute the code using its name. Doing it this way will teach you Python with use cases that are meaningful to you. Eventually, ask AI how to run this code outside of ChatGPT. :)
C'mon Rick. Yes, prompt engineering is evolving as the models evolve. Just as communication is important between people, communication is important with machines.
Yes the word will become more important. I tried once to generate art with the AI program then I realise this generative AI will still need someone that knows about the niche area to ask the right questions
What you are saying is so clear to me now. Thinking about it, for instance, if I were to write Python by myself, the programming would have to be correct, but more importantly, clear to get the program to output exactly what I want. The best part I find with AI is that I actually enjoy the back-and-forth to get to a satisfactory conclusion.
Video title is a bit misleading. The message is to use the tool, we don't have to know how to create good prompt. Thanks for info about anthropic site.
In my Podcast on Spotify - The Deep Dive - we've included some comments about this concept. Episode title: Do I Need to Learn How to Prompt AI? - - The show notes include 8 important questions (w/answers). I like the idea of the debate. We need more debate.
Thanks for watching and taking time out of your day to comment! Kind of missed the point of the video, eh? Feel free to shoot over any questions, happy to simplify even further for ya. 👍
there is a difference between prompt engineering (write better understandable prompts for LLM) and improving the self ability to express information, huh
Today, Prompt Engineering is less about a hard skill to understand the machine and more about the soft skill to properly comunicate. Know what and how to ask still important, but as the tech advances, the machines got better in understand the nuances of the prompt.
Just so everyone knows, prompt engineering, whatever you want to call it, is actually very important right now. Whether you're dealing with image generation, video generation, llms etc. You have to be able to know how to break down a problem and word it to the AI. These AI systems are not to the point where they can pick up on minor little linguistic nuances that we take for granted. In a lot of cases you really need to break it down step by step in your prompt what it is You want. So yes this title is very much clickbait.
Yes I used prompt engineering AI tool and it was really helpful instead learning to save time but still something is wrong and I don't get the result that I am looking for. It takes a human :)
I believe a hybrid method is the most useful way to go about it due to how easy it is to cause the AI to get confused in the information between sessions. Also the more back and forth the easier it is to accidentally cause AI to make incorrect associations and return less if not completely useless responses.
Jordan Peterson Is the subject of many RUclips videos in which he describes how to be unstoppable through clear writing and clear thinking. He emphasizes Unstoppable is due to focused rain and clear, strong articulation of what a person means. Don't obscure our intended meaning with jargon or "fluff." Recall the mantra of the TV show "Dragnet" -- "Just the facts; we don't need a story." Generative AI needs "Just the facts" of critical thinking to produce the content we need and want 🥇
And NVidia CEO thinks we should stop teaching kids how to program. These wide sweeping bold statements and claims are so click baity. So very click baity.
Nice one, Rick cool video. I think there's a few things you missed here like prompting frameworks that help create better output depending on the task. For me, I realise that their will always be new prompt generators but what I aim to do with what I'm building is not only create a prompt for the user but educate them on why that specific prompt is better for their use case
Appreciate it. I do hear you and right now having a basic understanding of prompt engineering is helpful, but moving forward it will be less and less of a necessary skill as we’ll just be able to ask a (specific) question and the models will be smart enough to do it. 🙌
@@RickMulready I hear what you're saying, AI is getting much better at understanding what we want. Although, even if there is some structure or format used then the AI will be able to provide closer to what we want and quicker without having to re prompt it
Is it? I look at prompt engineering as refining a prompt in a specific format (ie: chain of thought, or multi shot) and formatting as such. The point is that needing to understand these skills is becoming less and less important.
@@RickMulready I'm new to the game and trying to understand. I see your rationale, but I'm confused as to why these skills are becoming less and less important. Can you explain? Thanks for the great video.
@@RickMulreadyit’s not clickbait. It’s just a very debatable point. I don’t totally agree with you but great video It’s true that for simple and maybe mid complex task you don’t have to use prompt engineering but for more complex tasks like making a model act in certain way and follow a rubric, Prompt engineering is required for good results
Definitely clickbait and quite inaccurate. If you really knew what prompt engineering was at a higher level, you would understand how powerful it is… Even with these new models. As a matter of fact, it’s even more valuable.
No. See, if I am able to clearly imagine and articulate my question then why would I need another AI to generate a prompt to put this prompt in other AI to get the final output? So, you are saying we need to use AI to use AI.
Respectfully, you don't know what prompt engineering is if you think your methods are something different and novel. Literally everything you did here is prompt engineering. Listen, at a high level all prompt engineering is, is being strategic and cognisant regarding how you communicate with the LLM, so that outputs delver what you actually want. You haven't discovered fire here, and nothing you demonstrated is remotely new. Again, you're literally doing the very thing you claim not to be doing, which makes you look and sound foolish.
That's why i don't follow the crowd you all don't think like a human. Your talking to an entity humans are slow in thinking he will not progress past prompting. Think about it you can have another ai write the prompts 😅😅😅 they waisted allot of time assuming
Actually, you are teaching back how to prompt the prompt?! Sounds like zero content here to stop learning prompt. That is why we say "prompt engineering" when using Ai tools.
@CsabaTothMr Clearly missing the point of the video, which aligns with my opinion and thus the title and thumbnail. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to watch and leave a comment 🙌
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“Stop learning prompt engineering…”
Goes on to teach prompt engineering.
Exactly. Also states that today's SOTA models don't require specific prompt structures. Then the demoed Anthropic prompt has the typical Anthropic XML style markers such as .
Spot on!
Stop mastering driving, focus on being better at braking, shifting, cornering and avoiding hazards. Yeah seems like a good advice!
I actually love that I came across this. I have an interview soon for prompt engineering, and frankly what I do with AI is communicate with it, to get outcomes and outputs I want. It take trial and error, but for me the conversation helps me with all the skills you mentioned; thinking clearly, asking better questions, figuring out exactly what I want/need.
Fun thing to do is to create a prompt that works then ask ChatGPT to show you what the prompt looks like in Python Code. Then save the code with a name (e.g., code_search_statement). Then, ask to modify the code so ChatGPT will ask you questions that will inform details needed for the code (e.g., search terms, reminder to upload a file, etc.). Then, when you need to redo this prompt just ask to execute the code using its name. Doing it this way will teach you Python with use cases that are meaningful to you. Eventually, ask AI how to run this code outside of ChatGPT. :)
Umm, to me this sounds like strategic prompt engineering.
Click Bait
C'mon Rick. Yes, prompt engineering is evolving as the models evolve. Just as communication is important between people, communication is important with machines.
Yes the word will become more important. I tried once to generate art with the AI program then I realise this generative AI will still need someone that knows about the niche area to ask the right questions
What you are saying is so clear to me now. Thinking about it, for instance, if I were to write Python by myself, the programming would have to be correct, but more importantly, clear to get the program to output exactly what I want. The best part I find with AI is that I actually enjoy the back-and-forth to get to a satisfactory conclusion.
Exactly. 🤙
Video title is a bit misleading. The message is to use the tool, we don't have to know how to create good prompt.
Thanks for info about anthropic site.
In my Podcast on Spotify - The Deep Dive - we've included some comments about this concept. Episode title: Do I Need to Learn How to Prompt AI? - - The show notes include 8 important questions (w/answers). I like the idea of the debate. We need more debate.
We mention your video in the podcast.
This guy advises against prompt engineering and then literally advises us to prompt engineer.😂... You can't make this sh*t up.
Thanks for watching and taking time out of your day to comment! Kind of missed the point of the video, eh? Feel free to shoot over any questions, happy to simplify even further for ya. 👍
there is a difference between prompt engineering (write better understandable prompts for LLM) and improving the self ability to express information, huh
@@RickMulreadyyou're bad. Really bad lol. Stop talking
you mentioned your free community? I can only find a paid community, unless I am looking at the wrong location
So what you're saying is we need to learn prompt engineering?
Ya, I'm that what it sounds like. The same thing with a different name using another tool.
I’m about to start learning prompt engineering. Thanks .
Nice, glad the vid's helpful!
Today, Prompt Engineering is less about a hard skill to understand the machine and more about the soft skill to properly comunicate. Know what and how to ask still important, but as the tech advances, the machines got better in understand the nuances of the prompt.
It all makes logical sense to me as a creator of an Ai Music Channel. Thanks for your time and knowledge 🙏
Just so everyone knows, prompt engineering, whatever you want to call it, is actually very important right now. Whether you're dealing with image generation, video generation, llms etc. You have to be able to know how to break down a problem and word it to the AI. These AI systems are not to the point where they can pick up on minor little linguistic nuances that we take for granted. In a lot of cases you really need to break it down step by step in your prompt what it is You want. So yes this title is very much clickbait.
Yes I used prompt engineering AI tool and it was really helpful instead learning to save time but still something is wrong and I don't get the result that I am looking for. It takes a human :)
Call me old fashioned but I will rely on my prompt engineering skills 😉
Prompt engineering is hardly old fashion.
I believe a hybrid method is the most useful way to go about it due to how easy it is to cause the AI to get confused in the information between sessions. Also the more back and forth the easier it is to accidentally cause AI to make incorrect associations and return less if not completely useless responses.
Yeah! Excellent point.
so basically we need to learn prompt engineering?
yes
So we have verbal prompting? Which is the direction of interacting with our modern computer systems.
Jordan Peterson Is the subject of many RUclips videos in which he describes how to be unstoppable through clear writing and clear thinking. He emphasizes Unstoppable is due to focused rain and clear, strong articulation of what a person means. Don't obscure our intended meaning with jargon or "fluff." Recall the mantra of the TV show "Dragnet" -- "Just the facts; we don't need a story." Generative AI needs "Just the facts" of critical thinking to produce the content we need and want 🥇
What’s the link for anthropics console? There’s no link in the description.
Did you endup getting the link?
@@laurj00 yes thank you!
And NVidia CEO thinks we should stop teaching kids how to program. These wide sweeping bold statements and claims are so click baity. So very click baity.
Over that last year I've noticed that LLMs want us to think more like kids, and that's okay for me.
what you are describing is essentially iterative prompt engineering.
Thanks for this interesting video @RickMulready! How to get a link for anthropics console?
PE's will always be able to extract superior data or convince the model to take an action vs someone without PE techniques.
isn't asking better questions what prompt engineering actually is?
Riick what do you think of the new Chat model ???
Check out this video I put out over the weekend --> ruclips.net/video/Cq1OxaoKOzc/видео.html
Nice one, Rick cool video. I think there's a few things you missed here like prompting frameworks that help create better output depending on the task. For me, I realise that their will always be new prompt generators but what I aim to do with what I'm building is not only create a prompt for the user but educate them on why that specific prompt is better for their use case
Appreciate it. I do hear you and right now having a basic understanding of prompt engineering is helpful, but moving forward it will be less and less of a necessary skill as we’ll just be able to ask a (specific) question and the models will be smart enough to do it. 🙌
@@RickMulready I hear what you're saying, AI is getting much better at understanding what we want. Although, even if there is some structure or format used then the AI will be able to provide closer to what we want and quicker without having to re prompt it
So stop prompt engineering and instead better engineer your prompts.
Exactly some of the beginner advice I give in my consulting business when introducing AI.
You are one of the rare influences mentioning this at all. 🎉
Appreciate you watching. 🙌
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...we should have paid attention to those English classes
Very true!!!
Ok, but isn't clearly articulating your ask and defining the context the very definition of prompt engineering?
lol yeah, I got that too. we're right don't worry lol.
Is it? I look at prompt engineering as refining a prompt in a specific format (ie: chain of thought, or multi shot) and formatting as such. The point is that needing to understand these skills is becoming less and less important.
@@RickMulready I'm new to the game and trying to understand. I see your rationale, but I'm confused as to why these skills are becoming less and less important. Can you explain? Thanks for the great video.
The title is clickbait
It’s exactly what the video is about. Appreciate you stopping by!
@@RickMulreadyit’s not clickbait.
It’s just a very debatable point.
I don’t totally agree with you but great video
It’s true that for simple and maybe mid complex task you don’t have to use prompt engineering but for more complex tasks like making a model act in certain way and follow a rubric, Prompt engineering is required for good results
@@RickMulready it's totally click. The models are smarter and our instructions are simpler, it's still prompt engineering 😂
Your comment is clickbait
Why is it “clickbait?”
Agree! Thanks!
Definitely clickbait and quite inaccurate. If you really knew what prompt engineering was at a higher level, you would understand how powerful it is… Even with these new models.
As a matter of fact, it’s even more valuable.
Semantics 101
It's what you call 'opinionated charlatanism'
Be wise as serpents.
Is there an alternative to anthropic for prompt generation? It is a paid tool
No. See, if I am able to clearly imagine and articulate my question then why would I need another AI to generate a prompt to put this prompt in other AI to get the final output?
So, you are saying we need to use AI to use AI.
What skills , please help comment
So, you're saying forget PE in favor of PE, because what you're suggesting is PE.
awful
In short you think humanitarians will be mostly useful to the task😊 because thry know how to explain themselves.
Lol "How to be more intelligent" is a hilarious video topic.
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Respectfully, you don't know what prompt engineering is if you think your methods are something different and novel. Literally everything you did here is prompt engineering.
Listen, at a high level all prompt engineering is, is being strategic and cognisant regarding how you communicate with the LLM, so that outputs delver what you actually want. You haven't discovered fire here, and nothing you demonstrated is remotely new.
Again, you're literally doing the very thing you claim not to be doing, which makes you look and sound foolish.
That's why i don't follow the crowd you all don't think like a human. Your talking to an entity humans are slow in thinking he will not progress past prompting. Think about it you can have another ai write the prompts 😅😅😅 they waisted allot of time assuming
This video is Ai generated.
Actually, you are teaching back how to prompt the prompt?! Sounds like zero content here to stop learning prompt. That is why we say "prompt engineering" when using Ai tools.
Stop giving clickbait and sensaniolistic titles... Do This Instead: admit that you are actually doing prompt engineering
@CsabaTothMr Clearly missing the point of the video, which aligns with my opinion and thus the title and thumbnail. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to watch and leave a comment 🙌
I dont understand how this is a skill...lol
Click bait 😂
Those who can, do. Those who can’t, make stupid clickbait RUclips videos.