Flat light headshots should be TERRIBLE. So why are they so popular?
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024
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Painters and photographers have been told for centuries to avoid flat lighting a persons face! Why was that? And why is flat lighting, like that championed by Peter Hurley, so popular today? There's more to flat light than meets the squinched eye...
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Inverse Square for the win!
Very interesting analysis and commentary, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I really enjoyed this video. Some great and surprising insights that in retrospect, should be obvious but aren't.
Glad you enjoyed it. Which parts do you think were the most surprising?
@@FilNenna I think the falloff you get from close-up lighting highlighted the difference between truly flat compared to more modelled soft lighting that you see in professional studio work.
Old school here. Not fond of flat Lighting for faces. Have seen some exceptions in highly stylized glamour applications, but generally find it very unattractive. Yeah, I’m old. Classically trained in the 1950s
You are in good company!
5:00 that slight fall-off effect you mention (with respect to the 3-light "triangular" set-up) could perhaps be also achieved by using a negative fill?
It certainly could. If the light is diffuse and coming in from many angles, it might be more difficult to flag/reduce bounce than a more discrete light source. I'll have to experiment with that, though - great comment!
@@FilNenna Thank you! ... Also: if the light in the triangular set-up are too close, causing problems with editing and ability for the subject to maneuver ... can we not just set them a bit further away from the face, turn up the power a jot ... and if the far cheek areas start to get too dark, then just maybe add some positive fill to compensate?
@@FilNenna Lastly, I've watched several of Hurley's videos and - afraid to say - purchased one of his online courses a long while ago. ... But I've never applied his "method", not fully. ... What I don't really like about the "method" is that it is a drive towards the "generic". ... He has a certain "ideal" look in his mind of the "Best Possible Headshot" - a kind of Platonic ideal - which he tries to apply to anyone and everyone who comes to the studio. This comes across clearly in his "evaluation" videos, where he judges submissions by other photographers. If he had his way, basically all "headshots" would look identical, with various interchangable/fungible individual persons coming in and out of the frame.
It was especially irritating to watch him discard and put down perfectly good - and interesting - headshots, which were perhaps closer to what we would call "portraits" ... and he totally dismissed them as not even counting as "headshots" ... as if there was one standard, authoritative and "approved" definition of the term "headshot" (and then you get: "please spend thousands of dollars on my videos and join my club and I'll tell you exactly what that looks like"!!)
Oh god Peter hurleys crappy under lit triangle light. There’s a reason why Hurley is only a headshot photographer and not a guy that shoots for national or international publications. If you want to mimic great lighting setups mimic the guys that shoot magazine covers. Not the guy who can’t get those jobs .