i kinda understand both sides, Sun outing legit everyone since she might be used to such an open family and I think Ongsa didn't want her parents to find out since shes a huge overthinker and might think that her parents wont react well, so Sun is used to being in an open family and Ongsa is used to a less Open family both sides have different problems so its understandable
to start - i mean, this is the fourth time someone has been conversationally outed on this show that it just seems like they think "everyone is so accepting, why are we overthinking this?" because, earlier in ep4, charoen outed ongsa to tinh then instantly outed tinh to ongsa; in ep6, aylin outed ongsa (and technically sun) to luna; and in ep7, all of them essentially outed ongsa and sun to ton & mawin. though, i do view sun outing aylin and luna just now as accidental because the look of surprise on her face made it seem like she assumed they already knew the two were together since they mentioned them having dinner at luna's. because sun is wrong in what she did, full stop, no ifs ands or buts. but she's still valid in her feelings. i think the only reason it seems everyone is more critical on sun doing it is because she did it in a moment of frustration and emotions whereas everyone else who did it was written off as "we're HELPING ongsa and sun get together, it's okay!" and we see someone being mad while doing something somehow worse than when someone else does the exact same thing but with "good intentions". because, up until this point, sun has pretty much been the anchor holding this relationship up emotionally and mentally. every single time ongsa spiraled or self-sabotaged or something happened that put them on the rocks, sun immediately built her back up or centered them again. like, she pretty much instantly forgave her for lying/catfishing her for months, always compliments and reassures her when ongsa refuses to talk to her, and even when everyone was doing the most to make her jealous she never made it ongsa's problem and just buried it to keep being nice to her. like, since she's recognized and accepted her feelings for ongsa (and honestly, even beforehand), sun has been 100% full steam ahead and no brakes for them to be together and to STAY together no matter what. so it makes sense that after holding all that up for ages, she loses her cool. seeing how well her own family/their friends took to her dating ongsa, to deciding to give up her dream for the girl she literally went through hell and back with and professed her love to, then being told "no i want you to go anyway, don't tie our relationship to this" and immediately being denied twice to her face after it seemed like ongsa's parents were open to the idea, it all just kind of bubbled over for her and she tunnel-visioned on that moment and couldn't read the social cues anymore. like, you can see on her face the moment everything else faded away and she only could focus on what ongsa just said. again, she's 100% WRONG for doing it, no doubt about that because that should be done on ongsa's time and readiness, but it's understandable for a teen who is always praised for being so calm cool and collected to finally lose it when everything that was stacked up fell on her. it's pretty well established that unless someone forces her to talk or sun brings it up first, ongsa won't start the tough conversations they need to have, and i doubt sun would have done it the way she did if they had a conversation earlier where ongsa was like "hey, i haven't talked to my parents about this yet". they both focused on the exchange program secret, but i think the perfect time to talk about telling ongsa's parents would have been either right after the dinner with sun's parents after the "you're okay with your daughter dating a girl?" comment or after alpha straight up told her that she couldn't hide it forever. because sure, we've seen that sun is very understanding of not wanting to tell people before, but i don't think sun ever thought that meant not telling their parents since sun outright told her own and they're constantly going over to each others houses and even staying the night. still, i think because ongsa just denied it so passionately, not even a "i might be dating someone" or "i have someone i like" or "i don't want to talk about it", on top of the insecurity of ongsa maybe throwing their relationship away so easily in her mind, and them not even properly finishing that conversation before they were interrupted? sun just blew up. and i don't think it's really out of her character, either. because yes, sun is nice. she will help whoever she can just like it was shown in this episode with how she interacted with aylin; or in previous episodes like helping ongsa with basketball and telling the seniors about aylin's bullying. but also, we've been told, by sun herself, that when she's mad, she can be frightening. we've been shown that she's not a fan of outright lies or secrets (because really, her own secret was only kept for at most about two, maybe three, days before she told ongsa and it was mainly just her thinking about how to tell her/make the decision to ask her to come with then subsequently give it up). we notice that when she sees ongsa getting bullied by the basketball player, she's ready to step in because she's mad about it. she was ready to punch ton in the face for flirting with her crush. when she found out about ongsa being earth, she was pissed and just wanted explanations instead of apologies. even in episode 1, she was about to fight the people who had that video of them humiliating ongsa and she was "going to deal with them" but alpha/luna and teacher nida got to them first. the only reason it seems out of character to most is because sun has been put on this pedestal of pretty popular girl who is always nice and forgiving and no one has a bad thing to say about her. it's more the failure of bad scripting to never properly give us a sun POV outside of her relation to other characters, but i honestly think it's in-line with who she is: a nice and forgiving girl who also will not put up with herself (or others) being disrespected in any way. like, i'm sure you could sneeze at sun funny and she'd tell you off after saying bless you. also i'm just pretty sure ongsa (and by extension, the show itself) will be less mad about this because she'll probably be all "well, i did lie to sun about my identity for so long even though i had multiple chances to tell her the truth and everyone else BUT her knew and actively hid it from her and even made plans to make her find out instead of just telling her. oh, and i never did actually tell that truth until she was forced to find out by herself and i was backed into a corner and she was still forced to be the one to make me talk about it. not to mention she fell in love with that lie, but still forgave me, so." but also, i do hope it's talked about in some capacity? even just a "i wish you told me you didn't want your parents to know, i'm sorry" line would be good and them acknowledging a conversation should have been had about the ins and outs of their relationship because they're 16 and it's ongsa's (and maybe sun's, who knows) first proper relationship, so they're still figuring it out. but i wouldn't put it past gmmtv to not have that because i don't think they've ever viewed outing that way (again, as shown in earlier episodes of this show itself because no one else apologized for doing it).
Sorry to reply to a 2 month old comment, but I have to say I agree with all your reasoning. I don't even know why we're having this conversation to be honest because nobody in the 23.5 universe even knows what outing is, at least it seems that way. Except for when it comes to Ongsa's thoughts there's literally no social or acceptance difference between a hetero and homosexual couple and nobody even once mentions being a same sex couple or "loving someone from the same gender" after the episode 3 ending and Sun's declaration on the swing, which makes the series even better for me to be honest (no toxic "you need to marry a guy I choose for you" crap characters). A little bit like a Yuri women-only universe, but with a few boys mixed in. It just doesn't matter to the characters and it's all about "I love person X and I don't care what gender they're". And even Ongsa's more about "I don't know if I, as a girl, am good enough" and not "I don't know if it's ok to be a same sex couple". For me, after rewatching the series, the whole dinner scene was simply "someone in a relationship got their existence denied to someone very important straight to their face and then loses their shit". Also, everyone forgets that Aylin was about 1 sec and Ongsa's hands on her mouth away from outing Ongsa and Sun to Ongsa's parents in episode 7. But it was a comedic scene, so nobody even noticed it seems ;)
I get why Sun outed Ongsa as a viewer watching this show. It does make sense for her character, BUT outing anyone is a big NO NO. Just bc her parents are ok, does not mean she can carelessly out anyone. In the book the mom is homophobic. I do not know where the show will go with the mom. Still what Sun did in my book is a red flag (finally she has one 🤣). Even if Ongsa's parents are fine with it, maybe Ongsa is not ready to have that conversation with them. Coming out is not just about how the other side reacts, it is also about being ready for the other side to know.
I 100% agree with you. Both were wrong, yet i dont know what to say... I need to watch ep11 to hear from Sun and Ongsa again. Writer and director, please do this good. No time for other characters in remaining episodes..
Look! I get where SUN is coming from......Let's not forget...... They were about to DO It!(in Sun's mind certainly and Ongsa too.....they just faced their desire to DO IT! and it scared them BOTH).....Now fast forward........ Ongsa was the TOP in the pursuit of deeper sexual intimacy!........So I feel SUN is responding from this Place ......... Inside she is like.....we were about to Do IT!/we wanna Do IT!/We GONNA DO It!........remember its emotions and now physical intimacy on the table...... SUN is saying NO to hiding.......... They are too far in this LOVE to hide............ I GET IT! HIDING makes the emotional & sexual place that they were just at together....... A LIE! Om name shivayah, we bless your existence
The only time u need to see the preview but u didnt hahahah but anyways… yup both are in the wrong from Ongsa POV, she is definitely still not ready and she have been communicating with everyone but Sun abt hiding the rs from the public for the sake of Sun and Sun probably heard that from her friends and is willing to keep a secret of their relationship to the public. Then there is hiding the rs from the parents again, she only talk to alpha and not Sun… this situation ultimately is caused by Ongsa unintentionally becoming the root cause of this problem, she needs to start communicating more w sun like the exchange programme. And have more self love to herself And i believe that they would have been dating awhile considering that even Ongsa knows how to ride a bike. Also for her to deny a rs in front of Sun… well… it probably isnt a good idea… she should have drag Sun away and talk to her knowing that the parents is on to them. However i dont blame Ongsa for not thinking about that and her action from her POV and personality makes sense… so… Ongsa is really just making mistake. Even Sun’s word are direct toward Ongsa looking like she is not even planning to tell the parents about their rs. Add on anger to sun’s emotions From Sun’s POV, yes, she is in a wrong to out everyone but considering her household + Aylin’s and Alpha’s acceptance to Ongsa and sun rs probably influence her tots that the parents are the same. aylin and luna outting was a little bit intentional. Meanwhile for Ongsa’s outing is really based on emotions at the point in time. sun’s action and tots are always influence by Ongsa’s tots and feeling. Thats how she even gave up her dream for Ongsa, she confess her feeling becuz she is afraid of losing Ongsa. Even for Earth, she totally miss Ongsa’s saddness in the playground becuz of earth’s ongsa. So it is understandable that she was hurted by ongsa’s denial of their rs. And miss the signs that she is uncomfortable of the reveal. She is probably going through alot in her mind like why ongsa is doing this to her, and esp the parents positive reaction actually makes Sun question ongsa even more… considering that Sun has been lied to before now Ongsa is lying again, isnt helping the situation but probably escalated her actions into outing ongsa. They are just do the wrong thing but yet it is right in their own way. So to the comment section, they both are not red flag rather humans that make mistakes. I hope that the next ep… they will really focus only on OngsaSun and aylinluna and not place any more unnecessary scenes… i hope it is not rush and i believe in them.
I think this is a case of poor communication on both sides. Ongsa should've let Sun know she wasn't ready to tell her parents yet, before they were in that situation. And Sun should be more aware that not everyone is as accepting as her family. Once the cat was out of the bag, though, I can see why Sun was so upset being denied while sitting right there, but also Ongsa being so shocked and not knowing what to do (which is true to form - she tends to panic). I feel bad for both of them, but in general, never, never out someone. You don't know what kind of situation they're in. They're both still young, though, so I can't be mad at either of them. They're still learning, even if it's the hard way. 🙁
on a seroius note, everyone's commenting on sun being out of character, and everyone's got a valid point. just wanted to point out that from sun's perspective, dude she just gave up her dream of the exchange program for ongsa but ongsa just flat out denies that they're together, so i think sun's reaction is not that out of character.
It's honestly really out of character for Sun to out Ongsa like that. Not too entirely sure why they decided to go this route in the series. In the novel Sun was actually really understanding of Ongsa being scared to tell her parents (mainly her mother who was very homophobic in the novel) about them and was even a little nervous about telling her own parents. In the novel, Ongsa gets unintentionally outed to her mother by a friend of her mother's who is also the mother of one of Ongsa's classmates. The only reason I can think that they opted to go this route is because they are trying to follow an important plot point from the novel without actually making the mom homophobic in the series given her reaction to finding out Aylin was dating Luna. Novel Mom definitely wouldn't have been as cool about that.
So I hear everyone in the comments about not outing someone, but I don't think that is the topic at hand. Literally, every person in her school and neighborhood knows about them, but the only people she doesn't want to tell is her parents, and this conversation is coming 30 seconds after her family just reacted extremely well to Aylin and Luna. I know her brain operates slowly, but it's not that slow. There are certain things you don't get to do no matter what your excuse is, and this is one of them. Outright denying your lover for any reason, with her right in front of you, is a breach of trust on a level that in real life you can't make up for. To my mind, Ongsa was correct about one thing, she is far too immature to be with Sun (and maybe anyone), and Sun should definitely move on with her life. Ongsa can learn how to have relationships with someone else. Having adult relationships means acting like an adult even if you have to fake it.
@@nuggs9999 By the time she did that, one of them was going to have to tell the parents what was happening. Outing Aylin and Luna was an accident and Sun had no reason to think given the situation that she should say anything else. Remember, they are brand new, so they would have no one telling them even what outing someone is. This is not about societal conventions, it's about who you are and what kind of decisions you make in relationships.
@@ariesmarsexpress u saying it was an accident is just an excuse, and doesn’t change the fact that it was wrong. i love sun too but u are giving her too many excuses
just because her parents supported aylin doesnt mean they will support her. it be like that realistically, people will have no problem with it if it was someone else but when it comes to their own child they would hate it. its like people are forgetting sun legit said herself that if ongsa wasnt ready to tell it was ok with her. and for that whole kids at the school know thing ongsa gathered the people who knew and asked of them not to tell anyone else about their relationship. dont make it seem like ongsa just outright told people she struggled or was outed luna found out from aylin alpha found out after ongsa got depressed after that situation then alpha and aylin told ton and mawin then the others who found out were in the hallway when sun confessed out of jealousy ongsa technically didnt tell anyone out of her own readiness. also in the novel there is homophobia present in the story so coming from that mindset ongsa had every right to feel nervous of telling her parents i agree with the other comment sun couldve just left the dinner and had a talk afterwards with ongsa alone in private
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i kinda understand both sides, Sun outing legit everyone since she might be used to such an open family and I think Ongsa didn't want her parents to find out since shes a huge overthinker and might think that her parents wont react well, so Sun is used to being in an open family and Ongsa is used to a less Open family both sides have different problems so its understandable
to start - i mean, this is the fourth time someone has been conversationally outed on this show that it just seems like they think "everyone is so accepting, why are we overthinking this?" because, earlier in ep4, charoen outed ongsa to tinh then instantly outed tinh to ongsa; in ep6, aylin outed ongsa (and technically sun) to luna; and in ep7, all of them essentially outed ongsa and sun to ton & mawin. though, i do view sun outing aylin and luna just now as accidental because the look of surprise on her face made it seem like she assumed they already knew the two were together since they mentioned them having dinner at luna's.
because sun is wrong in what she did, full stop, no ifs ands or buts. but she's still valid in her feelings. i think the only reason it seems everyone is more critical on sun doing it is because she did it in a moment of frustration and emotions whereas everyone else who did it was written off as "we're HELPING ongsa and sun get together, it's okay!" and we see someone being mad while doing something somehow worse than when someone else does the exact same thing but with "good intentions".
because, up until this point, sun has pretty much been the anchor holding this relationship up emotionally and mentally. every single time ongsa spiraled or self-sabotaged or something happened that put them on the rocks, sun immediately built her back up or centered them again. like, she pretty much instantly forgave her for lying/catfishing her for months, always compliments and reassures her when ongsa refuses to talk to her, and even when everyone was doing the most to make her jealous she never made it ongsa's problem and just buried it to keep being nice to her. like, since she's recognized and accepted her feelings for ongsa (and honestly, even beforehand), sun has been 100% full steam ahead and no brakes for them to be together and to STAY together no matter what.
so it makes sense that after holding all that up for ages, she loses her cool. seeing how well her own family/their friends took to her dating ongsa, to deciding to give up her dream for the girl she literally went through hell and back with and professed her love to, then being told "no i want you to go anyway, don't tie our relationship to this" and immediately being denied twice to her face after it seemed like ongsa's parents were open to the idea, it all just kind of bubbled over for her and she tunnel-visioned on that moment and couldn't read the social cues anymore. like, you can see on her face the moment everything else faded away and she only could focus on what ongsa just said. again, she's 100% WRONG for doing it, no doubt about that because that should be done on ongsa's time and readiness, but it's understandable for a teen who is always praised for being so calm cool and collected to finally lose it when everything that was stacked up fell on her.
it's pretty well established that unless someone forces her to talk or sun brings it up first, ongsa won't start the tough conversations they need to have, and i doubt sun would have done it the way she did if they had a conversation earlier where ongsa was like "hey, i haven't talked to my parents about this yet". they both focused on the exchange program secret, but i think the perfect time to talk about telling ongsa's parents would have been either right after the dinner with sun's parents after the "you're okay with your daughter dating a girl?" comment or after alpha straight up told her that she couldn't hide it forever. because sure, we've seen that sun is very understanding of not wanting to tell people before, but i don't think sun ever thought that meant not telling their parents since sun outright told her own and they're constantly going over to each others houses and even staying the night. still, i think because ongsa just denied it so passionately, not even a "i might be dating someone" or "i have someone i like" or "i don't want to talk about it", on top of the insecurity of ongsa maybe throwing their relationship away so easily in her mind, and them not even properly finishing that conversation before they were interrupted? sun just blew up.
and i don't think it's really out of her character, either. because yes, sun is nice. she will help whoever she can just like it was shown in this episode with how she interacted with aylin; or in previous episodes like helping ongsa with basketball and telling the seniors about aylin's bullying. but also, we've been told, by sun herself, that when she's mad, she can be frightening. we've been shown that she's not a fan of outright lies or secrets (because really, her own secret was only kept for at most about two, maybe three, days before she told ongsa and it was mainly just her thinking about how to tell her/make the decision to ask her to come with then subsequently give it up). we notice that when she sees ongsa getting bullied by the basketball player, she's ready to step in because she's mad about it. she was ready to punch ton in the face for flirting with her crush. when she found out about ongsa being earth, she was pissed and just wanted explanations instead of apologies. even in episode 1, she was about to fight the people who had that video of them humiliating ongsa and she was "going to deal with them" but alpha/luna and teacher nida got to them first. the only reason it seems out of character to most is because sun has been put on this pedestal of pretty popular girl who is always nice and forgiving and no one has a bad thing to say about her. it's more the failure of bad scripting to never properly give us a sun POV outside of her relation to other characters, but i honestly think it's in-line with who she is: a nice and forgiving girl who also will not put up with herself (or others) being disrespected in any way. like, i'm sure you could sneeze at sun funny and she'd tell you off after saying bless you.
also i'm just pretty sure ongsa (and by extension, the show itself) will be less mad about this because she'll probably be all "well, i did lie to sun about my identity for so long even though i had multiple chances to tell her the truth and everyone else BUT her knew and actively hid it from her and even made plans to make her find out instead of just telling her. oh, and i never did actually tell that truth until she was forced to find out by herself and i was backed into a corner and she was still forced to be the one to make me talk about it. not to mention she fell in love with that lie, but still forgave me, so."
but also, i do hope it's talked about in some capacity? even just a "i wish you told me you didn't want your parents to know, i'm sorry" line would be good and them acknowledging a conversation should have been had about the ins and outs of their relationship because they're 16 and it's ongsa's (and maybe sun's, who knows) first proper relationship, so they're still figuring it out. but i wouldn't put it past gmmtv to not have that because i don't think they've ever viewed outing that way (again, as shown in earlier episodes of this show itself because no one else apologized for doing it).
I couldn‘t agree more!! Literally everything you‘ve said is my exact same thought! 🫢
lol you copy and paste this same comment in almost every reaction i love your dedication
Sorry to reply to a 2 month old comment, but I have to say I agree with all your reasoning. I don't even know why we're having this conversation to be honest because nobody in the 23.5 universe even knows what outing is, at least it seems that way. Except for when it comes to Ongsa's thoughts there's literally no social or acceptance difference between a hetero and homosexual couple and nobody even once mentions being a same sex couple or "loving someone from the same gender" after the episode 3 ending and Sun's declaration on the swing, which makes the series even better for me to be honest (no toxic "you need to marry a guy I choose for you" crap characters). A little bit like a Yuri women-only universe, but with a few boys mixed in. It just doesn't matter to the characters and it's all about "I love person X and I don't care what gender they're". And even Ongsa's more about "I don't know if I, as a girl, am good enough" and not "I don't know if it's ok to be a same sex couple". For me, after rewatching the series, the whole dinner scene was simply "someone in a relationship got their existence denied to someone very important straight to their face and then loses their shit". Also, everyone forgets that Aylin was about 1 sec and Ongsa's hands on her mouth away from outing Ongsa and Sun to Ongsa's parents in episode 7. But it was a comedic scene, so nobody even noticed it seems ;)
I get why Sun outed Ongsa as a viewer watching this show. It does make sense for her character, BUT outing anyone is a big NO NO. Just bc her parents are ok, does not mean she can carelessly out anyone. In the book the mom is homophobic. I do not know where the show will go with the mom. Still what Sun did in my book is a red flag (finally she has one 🤣). Even if Ongsa's parents are fine with it, maybe Ongsa is not ready to have that conversation with them. Coming out is not just about how the other side reacts, it is also about being ready for the other side to know.
The way Luna is ready to fight everyone fpr Aylin 😍
I 100% agree with you. Both were wrong, yet i dont know what to say... I need to watch ep11 to hear from Sun and Ongsa again. Writer and director, please do this good. No time for other characters in remaining episodes..
Yes they better focus on them ONLY
But really … the running around on the field preview I was like WTH 🤦
Look! I get where SUN is coming from......Let's not forget...... They were about to DO It!(in Sun's mind certainly and Ongsa too.....they just faced their desire to DO IT! and it scared them BOTH).....Now fast forward........ Ongsa was the TOP in the pursuit of deeper sexual intimacy!........So I feel SUN is responding from this Place ......... Inside she is like.....we were about to Do IT!/we wanna Do IT!/We GONNA DO It!........remember its emotions and now physical intimacy on the table......
SUN is saying NO to hiding..........
They are too far in this LOVE to hide............
I GET IT!
HIDING makes the emotional & sexual place that they were just at together....... A LIE!
Om name shivayah, we bless your existence
Eps 11 is out, missed your reaction😊😊
I’ll react to it when I get home from work 😊
The only time u need to see the preview but u didnt hahahah but anyways…
yup both are in the wrong
from Ongsa POV, she is definitely still not ready and she have been communicating with everyone but Sun abt hiding the rs from the public for the sake of Sun and Sun probably heard that from her friends and is willing to keep a secret of their relationship to the public. Then there is hiding the rs from the parents again, she only talk to alpha and not Sun… this situation ultimately is caused by Ongsa unintentionally becoming the root cause of this problem, she needs to start communicating more w sun like the exchange programme. And have more self love to herself And i believe that they would have been dating awhile considering that even Ongsa knows how to ride a bike. Also for her to deny a rs in front of Sun… well… it probably isnt a good idea… she should have drag Sun away and talk to her knowing that the parents is on to them. However i dont blame Ongsa for not thinking about that and her action from her POV and personality makes sense… so… Ongsa is really just making mistake. Even Sun’s word are direct toward Ongsa looking like she is not even planning to tell the parents about their rs. Add on anger to sun’s emotions
From Sun’s POV, yes, she is in a wrong to out everyone but considering her household + Aylin’s and Alpha’s acceptance to Ongsa and sun rs probably influence her tots that the parents are the same. aylin and luna outting was a little bit intentional. Meanwhile for Ongsa’s outing is really based on emotions at the point in time. sun’s action and tots are always influence by Ongsa’s tots and feeling. Thats how she even gave up her dream for Ongsa, she confess her feeling becuz she is afraid of losing Ongsa. Even for Earth, she totally miss Ongsa’s saddness in the playground becuz of earth’s ongsa. So it is understandable that she was hurted by ongsa’s denial of their rs. And miss the signs that she is uncomfortable of the reveal. She is probably going through alot in her mind like why ongsa is doing this to her, and esp the parents positive reaction actually makes Sun question ongsa even more… considering that Sun has been lied to before now Ongsa is lying again, isnt helping the situation but probably escalated her actions into outing ongsa.
They are just do the wrong thing but yet it is right in their own way. So to the comment section, they both are not red flag rather humans that make mistakes.
I hope that the next ep… they will really focus only on OngsaSun and aylinluna and not place any more unnecessary scenes… i hope it is not rush and i believe in them.
I think this is a case of poor communication on both sides. Ongsa should've let Sun know she wasn't ready to tell her parents yet, before they were in that situation. And Sun should be more aware that not everyone is as accepting as her family. Once the cat was out of the bag, though, I can see why Sun was so upset being denied while sitting right there, but also Ongsa being so shocked and not knowing what to do (which is true to form - she tends to panic). I feel bad for both of them, but in general, never, never out someone. You don't know what kind of situation they're in. They're both still young, though, so I can't be mad at either of them. They're still learning, even if it's the hard way. 🙁
on a seroius note, everyone's commenting on sun being out of character, and everyone's got a valid point. just wanted to point out that from sun's perspective, dude she just gave up her dream of the exchange program for ongsa but ongsa just flat out denies that they're together, so i think sun's reaction is not that out of character.
It's honestly really out of character for Sun to out Ongsa like that. Not too entirely sure why they decided to go this route in the series. In the novel Sun was actually really understanding of Ongsa being scared to tell her parents (mainly her mother who was very homophobic in the novel) about them and was even a little nervous about telling her own parents. In the novel, Ongsa gets unintentionally outed to her mother by a friend of her mother's who is also the mother of one of Ongsa's classmates. The only reason I can think that they opted to go this route is because they are trying to follow an important plot point from the novel without actually making the mom homophobic in the series given her reaction to finding out Aylin was dating Luna. Novel Mom definitely wouldn't have been as cool about that.
that's a decade for lesbians 🤣 spot on
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So I hear everyone in the comments about not outing someone, but I don't think that is the topic at hand. Literally, every person in her school and neighborhood knows about them, but the only people she doesn't want to tell is her parents, and this conversation is coming 30 seconds after her family just reacted extremely well to Aylin and Luna. I know her brain operates slowly, but it's not that slow. There are certain things you don't get to do no matter what your excuse is, and this is one of them. Outright denying your lover for any reason, with her right in front of you, is a breach of trust on a level that in real life you can't make up for. To my mind, Ongsa was correct about one thing, she is far too immature to be with Sun (and maybe anyone), and Sun should definitely move on with her life. Ongsa can learn how to have relationships with someone else. Having adult relationships means acting like an adult even if you have to fake it.
u have no right to out someone to THEIR parents. they will when they are ready, but sun has the right to leave if she’s not happy with that
@@nuggs9999 By the time she did that, one of them was going to have to tell the parents what was happening. Outing Aylin and Luna was an accident and Sun had no reason to think given the situation that she should say anything else. Remember, they are brand new, so they would have no one telling them even what outing someone is. This is not about societal conventions, it's about who you are and what kind of decisions you make in relationships.
@@ariesmarsexpress u saying it was an accident is just an excuse, and doesn’t change the fact that it was wrong. i love sun too but u are giving her too many excuses
@@nuggs9999 Accidents are regrettable, but not wrong. they just are.
just because her parents supported aylin doesnt mean they will support her. it be like that realistically, people will have no problem with it if it was someone else but when it comes to their own child they would hate it. its like people are forgetting sun legit said herself that if ongsa wasnt ready to tell it was ok with her. and for that whole kids at the school know thing ongsa gathered the people who knew and asked of them not to tell anyone else about their relationship. dont make it seem like ongsa just outright told people she struggled or was outed luna found out from aylin alpha found out after ongsa got depressed after that situation then alpha and aylin told ton and mawin then the others who found out were in the hallway when sun confessed out of jealousy ongsa technically didnt tell anyone out of her own readiness. also in the novel there is homophobia present in the story so coming from that mindset ongsa had every right to feel nervous of telling her parents i agree with the other comment sun couldve just left the dinner and had a talk afterwards with ongsa alone in private