I like hearing people using their native language, like here Dara speaking the Irish language, and Sandi Toksvig speaking Danish on QI. It's very interesting to hear.
I'm fascinated by the fact that Dara has the exact same "voice" talking Irish and English. Usually people sound pretty different to me depending on the language they're speaking in. I know I do. But Dara's tone and inflection are exactly the same.
That's because he's using mostly English language phonetics with an Irish accent to speak it If you go to Radio na Gaeltachta online you can hear a lot of real native speakers who don't sound the same as English speaking
@@cigh7445 Nope, it’s because he’s from Bray, County Wicklow. He _is_ a native speaker. He just said he grew up speaking it with his dad. There may be different accents around the country but there’s no such a thing as Irish ‘with English language phonetics’. Irish is the _national_ language of Ireland … the whole country, not just particular counties. It would be ludicrous for someone from Wicklow to speak Irish as though they came from Kerry or Mayo or Donegal. Is mise le meas,
@@Clodaghbob hear hear. Nothing so annoying as somebody from the east of the country trying to speak Irish with a Conamara accent. Just doesn't sound natural a lot of the time.
@@fromireland8663 Yes, it’s almost as annoying as someone from the North ( _An bhfuil tú istigh, a Ci gh? Dia dhuit!_ ) thinking that people from the East should sound like people from the West or the South... or be considered a Sasanach ( _yikes!!_ ). Perhaps, following their line of logic, young people from the far reaches of Connemara and Kerry should be deposited in the middle of Dublin’s inner city for two weeks’ immersion in proper English pronunciation and to absorb the ‘blas Bearla’. There’s nothing quite like a little ‘blas’ in your life, is there. 😃👍🇮🇪
love the way english people are so oblivious "what language are u speaking?" well considoring hes irish and it was an Irish tv show .................... hes speaking german
Everyone learns Irish in school for at least 11 years. So everyone has Irish but not many feel confident using it because of how it is taught and the fact that you don't use it day to day unless you live in an Irish speaking home. It is a beautiful language and I think alot of Irish people wish they could speak it better. Tá orainn é a usáid gan ró náire bheith orainn faoi botún a dhéanamh. We should use the language without being too embarassed about making mistakes. Ar aghaidh linn.
As a native Irish speaker I have to say when everyone is complaining about the education system and about how it's thought having one native speaker, willing to help, in everyone school is very helpful. I thought about 10 of my friends(0 are Irish) to be fluent. They moved here when they were about 8. The motivation and the help from a peer is what we need.
It's not even that. It's the way Irish is taught? We teach Irish the same way we teach English. Which is ridiculous. I left school knowing far more German than Irish. I was borderline fluent in German because German was taught like a foreign langue, Irish was taught like literature. If Irish was the same way we're taught French or Spanish I promise more kids would leave school knowing it. Either that or gaelscoils should be made compulsory, but trying to find teachers fluent in Irish would be impossible.
@@melchristensen8282 it's not even taught like English, it's taught like so.e weird mix between a foreign language and a first language. Which is even worse.
Because Jonathan Ross has the same speech impediment that Wendy Beckett the art historian and Roman Catholic nun used to have when she was alive that being pronouncing her R's as W's.
I have been to the Republic of Ireland on holiday once (got to say, beautiful country!) and i came across a lot of Irish Speakers, although this may have been due to the areas I visited. I dont know if you know, But officially, European Union considers Irish to be the official spoken language of the Republic of Ireland and sends all legal documents and letters to the ROI in Irish.
It's the official government language of Ireland too. The Irish text of all the laws and constitution and stuff takes precedence over the English text. Even though all the stuff is drafted in English first and then translated to Irish.
I just got done taking an Irish refresher course on Duolingo. Even as an American, I watch Mock the Week on RUclips all the time, and I wanted to know what it sounded like for Dara O'Briain to speak Irish. I was not disappointed.
I work in Brasil (Rio) and like yourself I speak Gaelic amongst our tiny Patriotic bunch - Always Proud of my Mother Tongue - Oiche Mhaith a Cara - :-)
you could tell he was a wee bit pissed off about the ripping of the Gaeilge, but i think he handled it brilliantly - ach feumaidh mi radh nach robh cail a dh'fhios 'am gu robh esan na ghaidheal, sin h-awesome
Holy christ... I remember watching Echo Island back in the day... And Irish is a useful language to have because nobody else speaks it... so you can talk about things in public without people knowing what you're on about!
Is breá liom go hiomlán Dara O Brian, beagnach oiread agus is breá liom an Haitéir Mad. 's genius sé ar an bhfear grinn agus is breá liom díreach Eisean. É a thabhairt suas don Dara! Translation: I completely love Dara O Brian, almost as much as I love the Mad Hatter. He's a genius of a comedian and I just love Him. Give it up for Dara! I love my native language...
sorry i know this comment is ancient but i really want to learn irish because both my parents are from there, i cant find any resources at all online though would i literally just have to move there and integrate?
I just found out that Ireland had its own language and I felt like I have been living underground for 20 years. I am Macedonian, we still fight for our nation,we fight for our identity, we fight for our ancestors,history, language, land even though we are losing. The ethnic Albanians won 2001 conflict, the Bulgarians have our heroes tombs and the Greeks have 50% of our land and they have strong propaganda and nazism BUT YOU DON'T SEE US GIVING UP, YOU SHOULDNT TOO IRELAND TO THE IRISH!! Slainte!
Haha! That is so cool! In the clip from "Echo Island", Mr. O Briain has the same speaking style and gestures as he does on "Mock the Week"! Thanks for uploading!
Actually, BOTH English and Irish are considered the official languages of the Republic and all legal documents and letters are sent in both languages. Any official mail we receive from the government, such as information on referendums, is also sent in both languages. And, as an Irish person, I agree with David in that there actually aren't a lot of fluent Irish speakers in Ireland, unless they've taken Irish as a module or course in college.
@FacnyCatFighter Ya I agree. I went to a Gaelscoil from age 4 and we did nearly everything through Irish at school. It didn't affect my later education at all. I went to an English-speaking secondary school. I actually think it made me better at learning other languages in the process as I learned how to switch mentally between languages in my head at a young age. I know a lot of people argue that Irish has no practical uses but that's not the point.
The Scottish were an Irish tribe that broke away and moved from Ireland to Scotland between the 3rd and 6th Centuries.Scotish,Irish and Manx are languages which originated in Gaelic,once only spoken in Ireland.Hence why its mainly the Western isles of Scotland that speak it (being closer to Ireland)
Actually if that guy has ever taken a look at Niall O'Donaill's Focloir Gaelige-Bearla I think he'll find that Irish is as equally developed a language as any other. Every English word imaginable has an Irish translation. Thing is, because there are so few completely fluent speakers, most of us don't come across or use the more abstract words.
im english,but i think that gaelic should not die down, in all of the celtic countries, its a really nice language. my friend speaks it with his family and it fascinates me.
Totally agree with you on the value of learning more than one language as a child. Everyone I know who learned more than one language young has benefited from it, and many people find it makes it easier to learn other languages later. Personally I'd never intentionally raise a child to only speak one language. Though I'm Canadian so it would probably be French and English.
Our teacher told us about that when it was officially added to the language xD (or was it just to focal.ie?) Uhm... D'inis ár múinteoir linn faoi sin nuair a bhí sé chuir leis an dteanga go hoifigiúil? (I'm a bit rusty) Also, I assume focal.ie changed their name because of what it sounds like in English, which amuses me :P
I've always wanted to learn Irish. I'm only half Irish, but my grandparents are from Galway, and they only started speaking English when they moved to London about a decade or so ago.
Only Irish people can make fun of the Irish language. It's what gives us our sense of identity - complaining about how stupid the Irish language is. When an English person does it, it's not cool. It's like an Englishman going into a restaurant, and stealing the potatoes off an Irishman's dinner plate. You just don't do that!
Why Gaelic would be stupid? Welsh people learn more and more and still speak their language. Celtic languages are not for folklore but for identity and culture. And language is the first vehicle of the culture and identity (very often nationality and language names are the same, this is not by random). Sure this doesn't mean that English has to be given up, but it means that trilingualism (English/Celtic language/foreign language) is the best way to link serene identity and globalisation. The big majority of the mankind is at least bilingual or even trilingual.
***** The Great Famine has indeed accelarated the hyper-anglicisation. Before 1840, only Waterford, West Kerry, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Mayo county,Sligo county and Donegal county were Gaelophones, the rest had been yet anglicised since the XVIII° century mainly (anglicisation of the elite of Dublin, but also the farmers and the peasants of Athlone, so centre and south of the country was Anglophone, and of course the main part of Ulster with the Scottish and English plantations).
Translation of an Quebecker linguist (a good and reputed one, Jacques Leclerc, specialist of the linguistic minorities) has done an article on Republic of Ireland and languages (so on for all the countries and main areas). In this article, we can see , more especially, a map of the languages of Ireland in 1851, interested one, as it shows that big parts of centre and south had been yet anglicised. translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca%2Feurope%2Firlande.htm&edit-text=
@Taraborn I speak English German Russian & Irish. Learning Irish was just as valuable as the other 2 languages- as it opens a door to all the history & culture that is valuable, beautiful and unique to this country. I don't think a country trying to preserve its cultural diversity, tradition and herritage is the same type of nationalism as 19'C biggoted imperialistic nationalism -. Indeed its quite the opposite - as it insists that all cultures and languages be treated equally. Gaeilge Abu!
To be fair, I'm Scottish and I know the lyrics to all three of our anthems, but I can't really remember all of the UK's God Save the Queen, and most English people seem to mumble most of it as well.
It is a huge victory that Irish still lives. A victory over the Sassanach who tried to murder us, our language, and our culture. I am three generations from the Old Country, and my heart flies every time I hear the old language. Viva!
language. Language is one of the things that makes human beings what they are: it is not simply a faceless, emotionless tool, but a source of perspective. As an English-speaker, like yourself, I have sometimes not seen the point in learning other languages: I already speak 1 of the most-widely spoken languages on earth, but us English-speakers are losing out, we're limiting ourselves by being so narrow-minded. We need to learn other languages. The rest of the world is beating us at our own game.
Haha. They have both got their own speech thing going on. Dara with his lisp. Jonathan Ross with his "Dawa o bwien" haha. Pure genius seeing them together.
@manq211 Cheers Mate.. Great To See Someone Outside Ireland And England Getting In On This.. And You Couldn't Be More Right.. The English Destroyed Us For Hundreds Of Years So Us Learning Our Native Language2 Try And Keep Something Of Our Heritage Just Makes Sense :] .. You Deserve2 Be An Honorary Irishman ;] Haha.. Im Glad2 See You Like Our Language Mate :]
Irish and Welsh are completely different. Breton is similar to Welsh. In Irish Wales is known as An Bhreatain, while Brittany is called An Bhreatain Beag, beag meaning small. Scots Gaelic and Irish are very similar. In Irish and Scots Gaelic Scotland is called Albain and Alba. The country was colonised by a tribe of Irish people called the Scoti, whose leader was Scotus, giving it it's name. This tribe brought the language (and the knowledge of whiskey-making) with them.
Maith an fearr Dara!!! Coimead an Gaeilge láidir!! tá brón orm gach duine a feiceann é seo mar b'fhéidir táim tar éis bótun grammadach éigin a dhéaneamh, ach maidir leis an fearr gránna a duirt go bhfuil an Gaeilge mar teanga "caveman".....ar son gach éinne a bhfuil bródúil as ár theanga..."póg mo thóin!"
he talks so fast!!!!!! gosh, im irish, now i know how i sound, i often be speaking away and realise everyone is looking at me with eyes that say they are listening to the sounds coming out but the words are all joined together!! opps!!
The orthography may look unusual to a new learner, but as someone who came to Irish as a completely fresh pair of eyes, I can say that after a while it makes total sense and follows rules which can be learnt like anything else. Very few languages spell phonetically, learning the spelling conventions is just part of learning the language. Also phonetic spelling wouldn't reflect the diversity of pronunciations in the different dialects, every language needs a standardised written form.
Hypotheticals & complete ignorance. You're a true gem! What makes you so certain I'm a heavy drinker. I enjoy wine with dinner, a good whiskey every so often, & yes, even the occasional pint of GUINNESS. *Gasp* The ancient languages I know are of a scholarly value (Latin, Greek, Old Irish), my Irish is of a high personal & cultural value, & my French & German will be of a high pragmatic value. I wouldn't be against learning Spanish, I just wouldn't consider it more important than Fre. or Ger.
You're right: Irish, like Welsh, Manx & Scots Gaelic & many others are no longer necessary for communication between individuals for the most part, perhaps because speakers of these languages often speak better English than many of us native speakers, but there is value in preserving tradition. Of course we cannot expect the world to stay the same: the Irish language will no doubt evolve just as English does, but change for change's sake is a valueless exercise. Language is a form of expression
@STUNTS1516 Dara is actually from Wicklow, in the east, which is quite a poor area for native Irish speakers. There are people who are fluent in Irish outside the gaeltachta areas, granted they are few & far between. It's also a compulsory subject in Irish schools so it's taught throughout the Republic. I'm not fluent but I try to use Irish when I can & I'm not from any gaeltacht region.
some useful irish phrases, (: Nil mé ach ag magadh! - I'm only joking! (Neel may ack agg mahad) Gaire as ard - LOL laugh out loud. (Gare as ard) A phuisín beag - you wee minx (a fishin bug) Ta an béal ban agat - you're a charmer. (ta an bayle ban agat) Is laoch thú! - you're a legend! (iss loh thoo) Na Dean! - Don't be at it! (Na jan!) ó tusa - oh you (oh tusah) Ar aghaigh leat- Keep her lit! (arh acaigh lee-at)
If you type in "At the Edge archive: Celtic fallacy" into Google and follow the first link, there are two strong arguments by other academics, that ring close to mind, against Trubshaw. The Celts were in Britain, they didn't wipe out and replace the indigenous population, they set themselves up as rulers. Most of the male line is descended from them, but the female line is primarily from the Indigenous hunter gatherers. Scotland's roots politically are Celtic, no matter which language is spoken.
The Irish language, so striking, rich and unique, which has given so much and deserves so much better, langishes on the horizon, paraded about when the Irish want to re-inforce their identity to outsiders but then neatly packed away until the next cultural craic. The remaining days spent propagating the Anglo language of the ex-oppressors which hardly need the help of the Irish.
I wish that was the case. Being from the capital myself, aside from teachers, I don't know anyone else who speaks Irish fluently in this county. Fluent speakers would be more common in the North, West and South but in the East, very little. There are millions of us that are being taught it in schools I'm sure, but I would be inclined to believe that Ireland doesn't even have 100,000 native speakers. A fraction of that I would say. It's a real pity but, that's how it is nowadays unfortunately.
Omg Echo Island!! LOL LOL! Aw I wish I had someone to practice my Irish with I don't wanna lose it! Don't really agree with the point about having as much Irish vocabulary a being able to say your name and the colours, I don't know maybe I went to a good primary school! But I agree all primary school should be gael scoileanna, Irish is such a beautiful language and it upsets me when Irish people give out about it and say it's dead to someone like Dara surely it isn't!
I've never heard anyone speaking Irish before, and to my uneducated ears, it kind of sounds like Dara's speaking Unwinese. My brain is trying to grasp the words, and I think I should understand him, but I just can't quite catch what he's saying. From what little I've heard, it sounds like a beautiful language.
He should have guessed it was Irish, but lets be honest, Irish is not a 'modern' language by any means. It is also not spoken by millions of people, fluently anyway. Sure most people in Ireland learn it in school from the time they are around 7 or 8 years old until they leave school, but there are a hell of a lot of them that won't remember much more than "An bhfuil cead agam dul go dti an leathreas, más é do thoil é?". It's unfortunate, but it's true.
haha I was just talking about this to my friends. People take things to literally. When most Americans say they are a certain nationality, they are referring to their ancestry. They're not claiming to be a citizen. I am an American but I have ancestors from all over the world.
@IoEstasCedonta Yea he does.It's normal enough to add a few English words here and there and because English is our first language it has had an impact on how even native Irish speakers talk. Also with so many new words being added due to new technologies or whatever we just use the English version as there is no point making up new irish words for them. If you talk to Germans you will notice that they too have adopted English words into their language.
I don't think at the time people were concerned about Celt vs Germanic, or thought that they were denying being a "Celt" at all. (I'm not really sure the concept and knowledge of ethnic history was around at the time). It was straight up Protestant and Government vs Catholic and "Rebel". William II (Second in Scotland) was married to Mary II who was the closest Protestant heir to the Stuart crown so that's why they were practically invited in by the majority Protestants.
@dansimmons21 @JessikaTheGamer just to say here, there is no shortage of irish schools in the south or there are even some in the north, and as the population increases, sure its easier to just speak english, but theres a lot of passion to stay Irish, and in the catholic secondary and grammar schools it is compulsory to learn irish to a certain year and if you want you can keep it on all the way to A-level, and its the most popular language in my school (:
There are over a billion people in India too and they speak Hindi and English. Many European countries like Finland have it as a de facto second language not to mention Nigeria and other African countries. Then there are places like Japan where it is required to be taught in school.
we've got the same problem as you in scotland, and i agree completely on the point about focus on grammar. the focus in scottish gaidhlig is now almost entirely on grammar so that there might be plenty who can write it 'correctly' (uninfluenced by any of the various dialects) but speak to most of these people in the gaidhlig and the majority can barely string a coherent sentance together. studying gaidhlig at college, i have come to despise this system, and those who say im wrong for using my...
The Indoeuropean speakers from the Caucasus/Mesopitamia, that had horses and bronze weapons and farming, migrated/conquered into Europe and set themselves up as the ruling class over the original post ice/stone age population. But barriers between them (Rhine, Alps, Channel, Irish Sea, Pyrenese) diversified their language and culture to an extent over 1000+ years into P Celtic, Q Celtic, German, Italic. Of course not TOTALLY isolated but still.
English has the most speakers in the world. Especially on the Internet. Computers and programming languages are also designed around English. That's not changing anytime soon. Its just going to get bigger.
OK here goes...Lucy's teacher said something about going back to school. That school was Colaiste Ni Something down in Waterford. And Lucy was nervous. "I'm not sure about that...but (I'll tell you what) I'll take a web cam and make a film about if there is any ....and this is the film she made. Best I can do after a gap of 20 years lol. It's incredible how much you can understand and still completely fail to get the gist of what's being said...
What Dara said in the video (translation may not be perfect, haven't spoken Irish in a while). Lucy's parents said to her that they wanted her to go to a boarding school that boarding school is Ring College in Waterford and she was nervous. “I'm not sure about that” said Lucy but “I'll tell you what this is what we'll do” said Lucy to them I’ll take a camera to the place and I will make a movie to find out if there is any worth to it.” And this is the movie she made...
Outside of Ireland, sure. But that also depends on what you consider "useful". If you want to preserve such a huge part of your culture and connection to the past, then it should be quite useful. Or if you just enjoy it.
The history of this is rooted in religious discord. Gaelic was associated with Catholicism and Papists in Scotland and Ireland and was stamped on partially to quell rebellion and religious dissent. In Wales however, there was less religious discord although many people were Non-Conformists (chapel goers) and the Sunday schools were often run by native Welsh who taught the bible, reading and writing in Welsh. The Scottish and Irish churches (Protestant at the time) did not support Gaelic.
It's not that it's enforced that's the problem otherwise no one would learn ANY subject, but the WAY it's taught. It should be introduced & taught as early possible to kids so that it becomes second nature, in the medium of the language in all subjects, incl sports, music, computer games etc so that it is actually fun to learn, and orientated for practical use too.
@Summers4545 You are right. Being English we have a language that is not ours any more: It's Globish. That's why I probably like Portuguese so much which I know well. But Welsh, Gaelic (Scottish and Irish), Manx and Cornish are all Great British languages. I'm sad I do not know any my other native languages. They are our heritage.
i just had the incentive to learn our language and it would serve you better if you did the same and HELP in making the language grow because if in 3 years of spendin 3 weeks in an irish speaking area i can become fluent other people can certainly do too and so making the language grow in popularity.
1 phrase that you need to get by in Irish; Póg mo thón. You can google it. The more recent Irish words tend to have letters that aren't supposed to be used in Irish like 'v' (eg. Wardrobe = vardrús)
They've similar words because they're of close relation but in terms of understanding it's like way french and english share a lot of vocabulary. I speak irish but only have a vague idea of what's been said in scots.
On some level Irish makes me think of Finnish and Swedish. I mean Finland was under the rule of Sweden, Swedish is therefore an official language in Finland and you have to learn it in school... Well, I don't blame you if you don't see any connection. :P Go Irish!
@acledmaiden You really don't get it, do you? It is about preserving a culture, preserving a sense of identity in a rapidly changing world, giving oneself a cultural base, and feeling proud about who you are. "All art is absolutely useless," says Oscar Wilde, who intended it as praise. Something doesn't have to be useful to be important, in fact, it is often the most "useless" things that free us from the tyranny of the mindless progress. How would you like to be subject to natural selection?
Dara O'Briain is an example of someone who appreciates the Irish Language and its importance without acting superior because of his fluency
yeah but ross can accept he doesn't know something respectfully without being insulting about another culture unlike that conan guy
I like hearing people using their native language, like here Dara speaking the Irish language, and Sandi Toksvig speaking Danish on QI. It's very interesting to hear.
Same with that programme Huw Edwards did about Patagonia, when he spoke to many of the locals in Welsh. I have yet to hear Sandi speak Danish, alas.
Dara's primary language is definitely English.
@@sananton2821 primary is not necessarily native/mother
People sometimes forget all these Comedians are clever people. They are no fools and serious people.
I went to an all irish primary and secondary school and I'm glad to know my language fluently
I'm fascinated by the fact that Dara has the exact same "voice" talking Irish and English.
Usually people sound pretty different to me depending on the language they're speaking in. I know I do. But Dara's tone and inflection are exactly the same.
That's because he's using mostly English language phonetics with an Irish accent to speak it
If you go to Radio na Gaeltachta online you can hear a lot of real native speakers who don't sound the same as English speaking
@@cigh7445 Nope, it’s because he’s from Bray, County Wicklow. He _is_ a native speaker. He just said he grew up speaking it with his dad.
There may be different accents around the country but there’s no such a thing as Irish ‘with English language phonetics’. Irish is the _national_ language of Ireland … the whole country, not just particular counties. It would be ludicrous for someone from Wicklow to speak Irish as though they came from Kerry or Mayo or Donegal.
Is mise le meas,
@@cigh7445 ??????
@@Clodaghbob hear hear. Nothing so annoying as somebody from the east of the country trying to speak Irish with a Conamara accent. Just doesn't sound natural a lot of the time.
@@fromireland8663 Yes, it’s almost as annoying as someone from the North ( _An bhfuil tú istigh, a Ci gh? Dia dhuit!_ ) thinking that people from the East should sound like people from the West or the South... or be considered a Sasanach ( _yikes!!_ ). Perhaps, following their line of logic, young people from the far reaches of Connemara and Kerry should be deposited in the middle of Dublin’s inner city for two weeks’ immersion in proper English pronunciation and to absorb the ‘blas Bearla’. There’s nothing quite like a little ‘blas’ in your life, is there. 😃👍🇮🇪
love the way english people are so oblivious "what language are u speaking?" well considoring hes irish and it was an Irish tv show .................... hes speaking german
It is so annoying even tho all other celtic languages existed before english
I`ll say that not all English people are like that....a lot, but not all.
Yes Jonathon woss represents all of us. He is ‘the English’.
Yeah but Chinese people don’t speak Chinese, so asking someone what tongue they speak is quite a sensible question actually.
@@RickyMacHatton he probably did this to talk about gaelic while knowing what language it was
"I speak Irish all the time and I love it! Country without language, country without soul."
Tír gan teanga is tír gan anam!
Everyone learns Irish in school for at least 11 years. So everyone has Irish but not many feel confident using it because of how it is taught and the fact that you don't use it day to day unless you live in an Irish speaking home. It is a beautiful language and I think alot of Irish people wish they could speak it better. Tá orainn é a usáid gan ró náire bheith orainn faoi botún a dhéanamh. We should use the language without being too embarassed about making mistakes. Ar aghaidh linn.
As a native Irish speaker I have to say when everyone is complaining about the education system and about how it's thought having one native speaker, willing to help, in everyone school is very helpful. I thought about 10 of my friends(0 are Irish) to be fluent. They moved here when they were about 8. The motivation and the help from a peer is what we need.
It's not even that. It's the way Irish is taught? We teach Irish the same way we teach English. Which is ridiculous. I left school knowing far more German than Irish. I was borderline fluent in German because German was taught like a foreign langue, Irish was taught like literature. If Irish was the same way we're taught French or Spanish I promise more kids would leave school knowing it.
Either that or gaelscoils should be made compulsory, but trying to find teachers fluent in Irish would be impossible.
@@melchristensen8282 it's not even taught like English, it's taught like so.e weird mix between a foreign language and a first language. Which is even worse.
Lalealyn 'taught'. In fairness it could have been predictive text.
*You never learn any language from school.*
Trust me I was in a German class in school for 3 years. I learned nothing.
maybe just accept some people dont wish to speak it and get on with your life
There's having linguistic banter, and then there's just asking dumb questions and making easy jokes. I'm sure you can guess which one applies to Wossy
Wait. Are you saying Ross actually made a joke?
Zarabada attempted more like
Because Jonathan Ross has the same speech impediment that Wendy Beckett the art historian and Roman Catholic nun used to have when she was alive that being pronouncing her R's as W's.
I watched "No Béarla" again the other day. Such a great documentary by Manchán Magan
I have been to the Republic of Ireland on holiday once (got to say, beautiful country!) and i came across a lot of Irish Speakers, although this may have been due to the areas I visited.
I dont know if you know, But officially, European Union considers Irish to be the official spoken language of the Republic of Ireland and sends all legal documents and letters to the ROI in Irish.
It's the official government language of Ireland too. The Irish text of all the laws and constitution and stuff takes precedence over the English text. Even though all the stuff is drafted in English first and then translated to Irish.
@@Jotari And yet, the politics in the Dáil is all done through English
@@cigh7445 I think TDs are required to know Irish.
@@Jotari faraor ní sin an fhírinne, tá iliomad TD nach bhfuil fiú focal amháin acu.
I just got done taking an Irish refresher course on Duolingo. Even as an American, I watch Mock the Week on RUclips all the time, and I wanted to know what it sounded like for Dara O'Briain to speak Irish.
I was not disappointed.
it makes me very happy to hear that some people care and are happily keeping it alive!
I'm fluent in Irish went to school in Irish and love dara :)
and I'm not offended by Ross , love him and the show :))))
I work in Brasil (Rio) and like yourself I speak Gaelic amongst our tiny Patriotic bunch - Always Proud of my Mother Tongue - Oiche Mhaith a Cara - :-)
Irish girl In Spain Ja pracuje dwanaście godzinne zmiany w fabryce
you could tell he was a wee bit pissed off about the ripping of the Gaeilge, but i think he handled it brilliantly - ach feumaidh mi radh nach robh cail a dh'fhios 'am gu robh esan na ghaidheal, sin h-awesome
There are certain people in the comments section who don't have a clue about history and don't know what they're talking about.
One of the great joys of the internet.
you might as well post that for every single video on the internet
@@staticfanatic A bit like seagulls; sometimes they hit, sometimes they miss.
Holy christ... I remember watching Echo Island back in the day...
And Irish is a useful language to have because nobody else speaks it... so you can talk about things in public without people knowing what you're on about!
Dara O' Briain - what a guy, comedian, theoretical physicist and a linguist all wrapped into one brilliant man!
Is breá liom go hiomlán Dara O Brian, beagnach oiread agus is breá liom an Haitéir Mad. 's genius sé ar an bhfear grinn agus is breá liom díreach Eisean. É a thabhairt suas don Dara!
Translation:
I completely love Dara O Brian, almost as much as I love the Mad Hatter. He's a genius of a comedian and I just love Him. Give it up for Dara!
I love my native language...
sorry i know this comment is ancient but i really want to learn irish because both my parents are from there, i cant find any resources at all online though would i literally just have to move there and integrate?
I just found out that Ireland had its own language and I felt like I have been living underground for 20 years. I am Macedonian, we still fight for our nation,we fight for our identity, we fight for our ancestors,history, language, land even though we are losing. The ethnic Albanians won 2001 conflict, the Bulgarians have our heroes tombs and the Greeks have 50% of our land and they have strong propaganda and nazism
BUT YOU DON'T SEE US GIVING UP, YOU SHOULDNT TOO
IRELAND TO THE IRISH!!
Slainte!
I love how Dara just goes "I'll tell you what" hahah
That was the most adorable no I've heard this year.
Tabhair dom caca milis. Is brea liom caca milis. An bhfuil cead agam dul go dtí an leathreas?
One of my favourite inspirational quotes in Irish.
No, eat your own fucking 🍰
Haha! That is so cool! In the clip from "Echo Island", Mr. O Briain has the same speaking style and gestures as he does on "Mock the Week"!
Thanks for uploading!
Why would iPod have a different name in Irish? It's a proper noun...
+landofold Ireland is a proper name as well.
I think Ross was looking for the improper noun guthán póca (pocket phone) mobile/cell phone kind of examples.
iPod isn't a noun. It's a trade name
Germany is a proper noun, but it aint called Germany in German.
Hellwyck iPod is a proper noun
Dara being so defensive about his wife is adorable tbh...
Actually, BOTH English and Irish are considered the official languages of the Republic and all legal documents and letters are sent in both languages. Any official mail we receive from the government, such as information on referendums, is also sent in both languages.
And, as an Irish person, I agree with David in that there actually aren't a lot of fluent Irish speakers in Ireland, unless they've taken Irish as a module or course in college.
@FacnyCatFighter Ya I agree. I went to a Gaelscoil from age 4 and we did nearly everything through Irish at school. It didn't affect my later education at all. I went to an English-speaking secondary school. I actually think it made me better at learning other languages in the process as I learned how to switch mentally between languages in my head at a young age. I know a lot of people argue that Irish has no practical uses but that's not the point.
Bím ag caint as Gaeilge an t-am ar fad agus is aoibhinn liom é! Tir gan teanga, tir gan anam.
** Is aoibhinn liom í ** bainiscineach cara
The Scottish were an Irish tribe that broke away and moved from Ireland to Scotland between the 3rd and 6th Centuries.Scotish,Irish and Manx are languages which originated in Gaelic,once only spoken in Ireland.Hence why its mainly the Western isles of Scotland that speak it (being closer to Ireland)
Love hearing Dara speaking in Irish!
Actually if that guy has ever taken a look at Niall O'Donaill's Focloir Gaelige-Bearla I think he'll find that Irish is as equally developed a language as any other. Every English word imaginable has an Irish translation. Thing is, because there are so few completely fluent speakers, most of us don't come across or use the more abstract words.
im english,but i think that gaelic should not die down, in all of the celtic countries, its a really nice language. my friend speaks it with his family and it fascinates me.
Totally agree with you on the value of learning more than one language as a child. Everyone I know who learned more than one language young has benefited from it, and many people find it makes it easier to learn other languages later. Personally I'd never intentionally raise a child to only speak one language. Though I'm Canadian so it would probably be French and English.
My favourite modern word in Irish is Féinphic 😂 is é an focal is fearr! Tá sé aiteach ach nach bhfuil gach rude as Gaeilge píosa beag aiteach? 😂
Our teacher told us about that when it was officially added to the language xD (or was it just to focal.ie?)
Uhm... D'inis ár múinteoir linn faoi sin nuair a bhí sé chuir leis an dteanga go hoifigiúil? (I'm a bit rusty)
Also, I assume focal.ie changed their name because of what it sounds like in English, which amuses me :P
That's Béarlachas shit
Féinphic, lol níor chuala mé é sin roimh
D'fhoglaim mé é le deanai i mo pop-up gaeltacht, ina dhiadh sin "Cáis!"
I've always wanted to learn Irish. I'm only half Irish, but my grandparents are from Galway, and they only started speaking English when they moved to London about a decade or so ago.
Wow, that's incredible.
He knows all of that. Jonathan Ross knows exactly what he's doing. Save for the few moments that he directly flatters guests he never drops the irony.
Only Irish people can make fun of the Irish language. It's what gives us our sense of identity - complaining about how stupid the Irish language is. When an English person does it, it's not cool. It's like an Englishman going into a restaurant, and stealing the potatoes off an Irishman's dinner plate. You just don't do that!
Why Gaelic would be stupid? Welsh people learn more and more and still speak their language. Celtic languages are not for folklore but for identity and culture. And language is the first vehicle of the culture and identity (very often nationality and language names are the same, this is not by random). Sure this doesn't mean that English has to be given up, but it means that trilingualism (English/Celtic language/foreign language) is the best way to link serene identity and globalisation. The big majority of the mankind is at least bilingual or even trilingual.
***** The Great Famine has indeed accelarated the hyper-anglicisation. Before 1840, only Waterford, West Kerry, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Mayo county,Sligo county and Donegal county were Gaelophones, the rest had been yet anglicised since the XVIII° century mainly (anglicisation of the elite of Dublin, but also the farmers and the peasants of Athlone, so centre and south of the country was Anglophone, and of course the main part of Ulster with the Scottish and English plantations).
Translation of an Quebecker linguist (a good and reputed one, Jacques Leclerc, specialist of the linguistic minorities) has done an article on Republic of Ireland and languages (so on for all the countries and main areas). In this article, we can see , more especially, a map of the languages of Ireland in 1851, interested one, as it shows that big parts of centre and south had been yet anglicised. translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca%2Feurope%2Firlande.htm&edit-text=
atomicdancer
Go tell Peter O Toole's daughter Kate if you have the courage to do so !Who do you think you are!!!!!!
I dont know why the 40 unlikes came from this is pure class;- and no insulting on any side.
Oh, Irish people! Please don't let your beautiful language die out. It'd be a devastating loss to all of Europe.
@Taraborn
I speak English German Russian & Irish. Learning Irish was just as valuable as the other 2 languages- as it opens a door to all the history & culture that is valuable, beautiful and unique to this country. I don't think a country trying to preserve its cultural diversity, tradition and herritage is the same type of nationalism as 19'C biggoted imperialistic nationalism -. Indeed its quite the opposite - as it insists that all cultures and languages be treated equally.
Gaeilge Abu!
Very irritating the way Jonathan Ross always talks over his guests.
@Cityside90 Thanks for the support. It could be. I think DeValera said that it was 700 when we achieved Independance
Well, he does have a point haha. The English typically lost their coversation skills long before us.
Ni raibh fhios agam riomh chomh maith an bhlas ata ar a chuid Gaeilge - maith an fear, Dara!
To be fair, I'm Scottish and I know the lyrics to all three of our anthems, but I can't really remember all of the UK's God Save the Queen, and most English people seem to mumble most of it as well.
Is as Sasana mé agus...bionn me ag foghlaim Gaeilge gach la.
I am part Irish and plus we must preserve it!!! :D
It is a huge victory that Irish still lives. A victory over the Sassanach who tried to murder us, our language, and our culture. I am three generations from the Old Country, and my heart flies every time I hear the old language. Viva!
TheLakewind exactly , so much irish blood shed - especially by the oppressive british
OMG I went to Rinn for two summers!!
Love Dara and He's brilliant at Irish!
go maith
King balor You again
language. Language is one of the things that makes human beings what they are: it is not simply a faceless, emotionless tool, but a source of perspective. As an English-speaker, like yourself, I have sometimes not seen the point in learning other languages: I already speak 1 of the most-widely spoken languages on earth, but us English-speakers are losing out, we're limiting ourselves by being so narrow-minded. We need to learn other languages. The rest of the world is beating us at our own game.
Haha. They have both got their own speech thing going on. Dara with his lisp. Jonathan Ross with his "Dawa o bwien" haha. Pure genius seeing them together.
@manq211
Cheers Mate.. Great To See Someone Outside Ireland And England Getting In On This.. And You Couldn't Be More Right.. The English Destroyed Us For Hundreds Of Years So Us Learning Our Native Language2 Try And Keep Something Of Our Heritage Just Makes Sense :] .. You Deserve2 Be An Honorary Irishman ;] Haha.. Im Glad2 See You Like Our Language Mate :]
Irish and Welsh are completely different. Breton is similar to Welsh. In Irish Wales is known as An Bhreatain, while Brittany is called An Bhreatain Beag, beag meaning small.
Scots Gaelic and Irish are very similar.
In Irish and Scots Gaelic Scotland is called Albain and Alba.
The country was colonised by a tribe of Irish people called the Scoti, whose leader was Scotus, giving it it's name.
This tribe brought the language (and the knowledge of whiskey-making) with them.
Maith an fearr Dara!!! Coimead an Gaeilge láidir!! tá brón orm gach duine a feiceann é seo mar b'fhéidir táim tar éis bótun grammadach éigin a dhéaneamh, ach maidir leis an fearr gránna a duirt go bhfuil an Gaeilge mar teanga "caveman".....ar son gach éinne a bhfuil bródúil as ár theanga..."póg mo thóin!"
he talks so fast!!!!!! gosh, im irish, now i know how i sound, i often be speaking away and realise everyone is looking at me with eyes that say they are listening to the sounds coming out but the words are all joined together!! opps!!
I love dara obriain and i always smile when i see him speak irish
The orthography may look unusual to a new learner, but as someone who came to Irish as a completely fresh pair of eyes, I can say that after a while it makes total sense and follows rules which can be learnt like anything else.
Very few languages spell phonetically, learning the spelling conventions is just part of learning the language.
Also phonetic spelling wouldn't reflect the diversity of pronunciations in the different dialects, every language needs a standardised written form.
Omg I laughed so hard at Jonathan attempting an Irish accent so funny x
It is taught in schools. I've been learning Irish for eight years and I'm only 13 :)
@1DerekRubin1
Irish is DEFINATELY live and kicking.... nil dabht ar fad agam go bheidh se beo go deo....
I'm still in schooling and can understand most of it,I wish to become fluent and with a native teacher I have the best chance(Donegal Gaelthacht)
Hypotheticals & complete ignorance. You're a true gem! What makes you so certain I'm a heavy drinker. I enjoy wine with dinner, a good whiskey every so often, & yes, even the occasional pint of GUINNESS. *Gasp* The ancient languages I know are of a scholarly value (Latin, Greek, Old Irish), my Irish is of a high personal & cultural value, & my French & German will be of a high pragmatic value. I wouldn't be against learning Spanish, I just wouldn't consider it more important than Fre. or Ger.
You're right: Irish, like Welsh, Manx & Scots Gaelic & many others are no longer necessary for communication between individuals for the most part, perhaps because speakers of these languages often speak better English than many of us native speakers, but there is value in preserving tradition. Of course we cannot expect the world to stay the same: the Irish language will no doubt evolve just as English does, but change for change's sake is a valueless exercise. Language is a form of expression
Dara OBrien is a legend and so is Johnathan Ross, Quality bit of viewing.
@STUNTS1516 Dara is actually from Wicklow, in the east, which is quite a poor area for native Irish speakers. There are people who are fluent in Irish outside the gaeltachta areas, granted they are few & far between. It's also a compulsory subject in Irish schools so it's taught throughout the Republic. I'm not fluent but I try to use Irish when I can & I'm not from any gaeltacht region.
some useful irish phrases, (:
Nil mé ach ag magadh! - I'm only joking! (Neel may ack agg mahad)
Gaire as ard - LOL laugh out loud. (Gare as ard)
A phuisín beag - you wee minx (a fishin bug)
Ta an béal ban agat - you're a charmer. (ta an bayle ban agat)
Is laoch thú! - you're a legend! (iss loh thoo)
Na Dean! - Don't be at it! (Na jan!)
ó tusa - oh you (oh tusah)
Ar aghaigh leat- Keep her lit! (arh acaigh lee-at)
If you type in "At the Edge archive: Celtic fallacy" into Google and follow the first link, there are two strong arguments by other academics, that ring close to mind, against Trubshaw.
The Celts were in Britain, they didn't wipe out and replace the indigenous population, they set themselves up as rulers. Most of the male line is descended from them, but the female line is primarily from the Indigenous hunter gatherers.
Scotland's roots politically are Celtic, no matter which language is spoken.
an-job iontach ar fad i aoibhean liom Dara O Briain agus Gaelige Freisin píosa craic
The Irish language, so striking, rich and unique, which has given so much and deserves so much better, langishes on the horizon, paraded about when the Irish want to re-inforce their identity to outsiders but then neatly packed away until the next cultural craic. The remaining days spent propagating the Anglo language of the ex-oppressors which hardly need the help of the Irish.
I wish that was the case. Being from the capital myself, aside from teachers, I don't know anyone else who speaks Irish fluently in this county. Fluent speakers would be more common in the North, West and South but in the East, very little. There are millions of us that are being taught it in schools I'm sure, but I would be inclined to believe that Ireland doesn't even have 100,000 native speakers. A fraction of that I would say. It's a real pity but, that's how it is nowadays unfortunately.
Omg Echo Island!! LOL LOL! Aw I wish I had someone to practice my Irish with I don't wanna lose it! Don't really agree with the point about having as much Irish vocabulary a being able to say your name and the colours, I don't know maybe I went to a good primary school! But I agree all primary school should be gael scoileanna, Irish is such a beautiful language and it upsets me when Irish people give out about it and say it's dead to someone like Dara surely it isn't!
I've never heard anyone speaking Irish before, and to my uneducated ears, it kind of sounds like Dara's speaking Unwinese. My brain is trying to grasp the words, and I think I should understand him, but I just can't quite catch what he's saying. From what little I've heard, it sounds like a beautiful language.
my mom speaks connamara gaeilge (but shes italian and we live in america) and she was like, irish on youtube?? so cool!!
He should have guessed it was Irish, but lets be honest, Irish is not a 'modern' language by any means. It is also not spoken by millions of people, fluently anyway. Sure most people in Ireland learn it in school from the time they are around 7 or 8 years old until they leave school, but there are a hell of a lot of them that won't remember much more than "An bhfuil cead agam dul go dti an leathreas, más é do thoil é?". It's unfortunate, but it's true.
Ba mhaith liom Dara riomh seo, ach anois, is aoibhinn liom sé Ní raibh fhios agam go bhfuil sé líofa i nGaelige =]
haha I was just talking about this to my friends. People take things to literally. When most Americans say they are a certain nationality, they are referring to their ancestry. They're not claiming to be a citizen. I am an American but I have ancestors from all over the world.
@IoEstasCedonta Yea he does.It's normal enough to add a few English words here and there and because English is our first language it has had an impact on how even native Irish speakers talk.
Also with so many new words being added due to new technologies or whatever we just use the English version as there is no point making up new irish words for them.
If you talk to Germans you will notice that they too have adopted English words into their language.
I don't think at the time people were concerned about Celt vs Germanic, or thought that they were denying being a "Celt" at all. (I'm not really sure the concept and knowledge of ethnic history was around at the time).
It was straight up Protestant and Government vs Catholic and "Rebel". William II (Second in Scotland) was married to Mary II who was the closest Protestant heir to the Stuart crown so that's why they were practically invited in by the majority Protestants.
@dansimmons21 @JessikaTheGamer just to say here, there is no shortage of irish schools in the south or there are even some in the north, and as the population increases, sure its easier to just speak english, but theres a lot of passion to stay Irish, and in the catholic secondary and grammar schools it is compulsory to learn irish to a certain year and if you want you can keep it on all the way to A-level, and its the most popular language in my school (:
There are over a billion people in India too and they speak Hindi and English. Many European countries like Finland have it as a de facto second language not to mention Nigeria and other African countries. Then there are places like Japan where it is required to be taught in school.
we've got the same problem as you in scotland, and i agree completely on the point about focus on grammar. the focus in scottish gaidhlig is now almost entirely on grammar so that there might be plenty who can write it 'correctly' (uninfluenced by any of the various dialects) but speak to most of these people in the gaidhlig and the majority can barely string a coherent sentance together. studying gaidhlig at college, i have come to despise this system, and those who say im wrong for using my...
The Indoeuropean speakers from the Caucasus/Mesopitamia, that had horses and bronze weapons and farming, migrated/conquered into Europe and set themselves up as the ruling class over the original post ice/stone age population. But barriers between them (Rhine, Alps, Channel, Irish Sea, Pyrenese) diversified their language and culture to an extent over 1000+ years into P Celtic, Q Celtic, German, Italic. Of course not TOTALLY isolated but still.
English has the most speakers in the world. Especially on the Internet. Computers and programming languages are also designed around English. That's not changing anytime soon. Its just going to get bigger.
Is fuath liom Jonathan Ross... fear bomanta... is amadán é!!
OK here goes...Lucy's teacher said something about going back to school. That school was Colaiste Ni Something down in Waterford. And Lucy was nervous. "I'm not sure about that...but (I'll tell you what) I'll take a web cam and make a film about if there is any ....and this is the film she made.
Best I can do after a gap of 20 years lol. It's incredible how much you can understand and still completely fail to get the gist of what's being said...
J Boarding school
What Dara said in the video (translation may not be perfect, haven't spoken Irish in a while).
Lucy's parents said to her that they wanted her to go to a boarding school that boarding school is Ring College in Waterford and she was nervous. “I'm not sure about that” said Lucy but “I'll tell you what this is what we'll do” said Lucy to them I’ll take a camera to the place and I will make a movie to find out if there is any worth to it.” And this is the movie she made...
Outside of Ireland, sure. But that also depends on what you consider "useful". If you want to preserve such a huge part of your culture and connection to the past, then it should be quite useful. Or if you just enjoy it.
@RokiaNY very cool. I'm South African/Welsh. So I speak Afrikaans as well. But strangly people seem more impressd about the Welsh. :)
The history of this is rooted in religious discord. Gaelic was associated with Catholicism and Papists in Scotland and Ireland and was stamped on partially to quell rebellion and religious dissent.
In Wales however, there was less religious discord although many people were Non-Conformists (chapel goers) and the Sunday schools were often run by native Welsh who taught the bible, reading and writing in Welsh.
The Scottish and Irish churches (Protestant at the time) did not support Gaelic.
It's not that it's enforced that's the problem otherwise no one would learn ANY subject, but the WAY it's taught. It should be introduced & taught as early possible to kids so that it becomes second nature, in the medium of the language in all subjects, incl sports, music, computer games etc so that it is actually fun to learn, and orientated for practical use too.
@Summers4545 You are right. Being English we have a language that is not ours any more: It's Globish. That's why I probably like Portuguese so much which I know well. But Welsh, Gaelic (Scottish and Irish), Manx and Cornish are all Great British languages. I'm sad I do not know any my other native languages. They are our heritage.
It's bleedin' lovely to see a cultured Dub. Maith thú a Dhara!
Áth Cliath abú!
he isnt from dublin
i just had the incentive to learn our language and it would serve you better if you did the same and HELP in making the language grow because if in 3 years of spendin 3 weeks in an irish speaking area i can become fluent other people can certainly do too and so making the language grow in popularity.
1 phrase that you need to get by in Irish; Póg mo thón. You can google it. The more recent Irish words tend to have letters that aren't supposed to be used in Irish like 'v' (eg. Wardrobe = vardrús)
They've similar words because they're of close relation but in terms of understanding it's like way french and english share a lot of vocabulary. I speak irish but only have a vague idea of what's been said in scots.
On some level Irish makes me think of Finnish and Swedish. I mean Finland was under the rule of Sweden, Swedish is therefore an official language in Finland and you have to learn it in school... Well, I don't blame you if you don't see any connection. :P
Go Irish!
@acledmaiden You really don't get it, do you? It is about preserving a culture, preserving a sense of identity in a rapidly changing world, giving oneself a cultural base, and feeling proud about who you are. "All art is absolutely useless," says Oscar Wilde, who intended it as praise. Something doesn't have to be useful to be important, in fact, it is often the most "useless" things that free us from the tyranny of the mindless progress. How would you like to be subject to natural selection?
The Irish people ,now they are real people with a very valuable language