I like hearing people using their native language, like here Dara speaking the Irish language, and Sandi Toksvig speaking Danish on QI. It's very interesting to hear.
love the way english people are so oblivious "what language are u speaking?" well considoring hes irish and it was an Irish tv show .................... hes speaking german
Because Jonathan Ross has the same speech impediment that Wendy Beckett the art historian and Roman Catholic nun used to have when she was alive that being pronouncing her R's as W's.
As a native Irish speaker I have to say when everyone is complaining about the education system and about how it's thought having one native speaker, willing to help, in everyone school is very helpful. I thought about 10 of my friends(0 are Irish) to be fluent. They moved here when they were about 8. The motivation and the help from a peer is what we need.
It's not even that. It's the way Irish is taught? We teach Irish the same way we teach English. Which is ridiculous. I left school knowing far more German than Irish. I was borderline fluent in German because German was taught like a foreign langue, Irish was taught like literature. If Irish was the same way we're taught French or Spanish I promise more kids would leave school knowing it. Either that or gaelscoils should be made compulsory, but trying to find teachers fluent in Irish would be impossible.
@@melchristensen8282 it's not even taught like English, it's taught like so.e weird mix between a foreign language and a first language. Which is even worse.
Everyone learns Irish in school for at least 11 years. So everyone has Irish but not many feel confident using it because of how it is taught and the fact that you don't use it day to day unless you live in an Irish speaking home. It is a beautiful language and I think alot of Irish people wish they could speak it better. Tá orainn é a usáid gan ró náire bheith orainn faoi botún a dhéanamh. We should use the language without being too embarassed about making mistakes. Ar aghaidh linn.
I have been to the Republic of Ireland on holiday once (got to say, beautiful country!) and i came across a lot of Irish Speakers, although this may have been due to the areas I visited. I dont know if you know, But officially, European Union considers Irish to be the official spoken language of the Republic of Ireland and sends all legal documents and letters to the ROI in Irish.
It's the official government language of Ireland too. The Irish text of all the laws and constitution and stuff takes precedence over the English text. Even though all the stuff is drafted in English first and then translated to Irish.
I just got done taking an Irish refresher course on Duolingo. Even as an American, I watch Mock the Week on RUclips all the time, and I wanted to know what it sounded like for Dara O'Briain to speak Irish. I was not disappointed.
I work in Brasil (Rio) and like yourself I speak Gaelic amongst our tiny Patriotic bunch - Always Proud of my Mother Tongue - Oiche Mhaith a Cara - :-)
I just found out that Ireland had its own language and I felt like I have been living underground for 20 years. I am Macedonian, we still fight for our nation,we fight for our identity, we fight for our ancestors,history, language, land even though we are losing. The ethnic Albanians won 2001 conflict, the Bulgarians have our heroes tombs and the Greeks have 50% of our land and they have strong propaganda and nazism BUT YOU DON'T SEE US GIVING UP, YOU SHOULDNT TOO IRELAND TO THE IRISH!! Slainte!
Actually if that guy has ever taken a look at Niall O'Donaill's Focloir Gaelige-Bearla I think he'll find that Irish is as equally developed a language as any other. Every English word imaginable has an Irish translation. Thing is, because there are so few completely fluent speakers, most of us don't come across or use the more abstract words.
Haha! That is so cool! In the clip from "Echo Island", Mr. O Briain has the same speaking style and gestures as he does on "Mock the Week"! Thanks for uploading!
Our teacher told us about that when it was officially added to the language xD (or was it just to focal.ie?) Uhm... D'inis ár múinteoir linn faoi sin nuair a bhí sé chuir leis an dteanga go hoifigiúil? (I'm a bit rusty) Also, I assume focal.ie changed their name because of what it sounds like in English, which amuses me :P
Actually, BOTH English and Irish are considered the official languages of the Republic and all legal documents and letters are sent in both languages. Any official mail we receive from the government, such as information on referendums, is also sent in both languages. And, as an Irish person, I agree with David in that there actually aren't a lot of fluent Irish speakers in Ireland, unless they've taken Irish as a module or course in college.
The Scottish were an Irish tribe that broke away and moved from Ireland to Scotland between the 3rd and 6th Centuries.Scotish,Irish and Manx are languages which originated in Gaelic,once only spoken in Ireland.Hence why its mainly the Western isles of Scotland that speak it (being closer to Ireland)
im english,but i think that gaelic should not die down, in all of the celtic countries, its a really nice language. my friend speaks it with his family and it fascinates me.
I'm fascinated by the fact that Dara has the exact same "voice" talking Irish and English. Usually people sound pretty different to me depending on the language they're speaking in. I know I do. But Dara's tone and inflection are exactly the same.
That's because he's using mostly English language phonetics with an Irish accent to speak it If you go to Radio na Gaeltachta online you can hear a lot of real native speakers who don't sound the same as English speaking
@@cigh7445 Nope, it’s because he’s from Bray, County Wicklow. He _is_ a native speaker. He just said he grew up speaking it with his dad. There may be different accents around the country but there’s no such a thing as Irish ‘with English language phonetics’. Irish is the _national_ language of Ireland … the whole country, not just particular counties. It would be ludicrous for someone from Wicklow to speak Irish as though they came from Kerry or Mayo or Donegal. Is mise le meas,
@@Clodaghbob hear hear. Nothing so annoying as somebody from the east of the country trying to speak Irish with a Conamara accent. Just doesn't sound natural a lot of the time.
@@fromireland8663 Yes, it’s almost as annoying as someone from the North ( _An bhfuil tú istigh, a Ci gh? Dia dhuit!_ ) thinking that people from the East should sound like people from the West or the South... or be considered a Sasanach ( _yikes!!_ ). Perhaps, following their line of logic, young people from the far reaches of Connemara and Kerry should be deposited in the middle of Dublin’s inner city for two weeks’ immersion in proper English pronunciation and to absorb the ‘blas Bearla’. There’s nothing quite like a little ‘blas’ in your life, is there. 😃👍🇮🇪
I've always wanted to learn Irish. I'm only half Irish, but my grandparents are from Galway, and they only started speaking English when they moved to London about a decade or so ago.
Totally agree with you on the value of learning more than one language as a child. Everyone I know who learned more than one language young has benefited from it, and many people find it makes it easier to learn other languages later. Personally I'd never intentionally raise a child to only speak one language. Though I'm Canadian so it would probably be French and English.
The orthography may look unusual to a new learner, but as someone who came to Irish as a completely fresh pair of eyes, I can say that after a while it makes total sense and follows rules which can be learnt like anything else. Very few languages spell phonetically, learning the spelling conventions is just part of learning the language. Also phonetic spelling wouldn't reflect the diversity of pronunciations in the different dialects, every language needs a standardised written form.
you could tell he was a wee bit pissed off about the ripping of the Gaeilge, but i think he handled it brilliantly - ach feumaidh mi radh nach robh cail a dh'fhios 'am gu robh esan na ghaidheal, sin h-awesome
Holy christ... I remember watching Echo Island back in the day... And Irish is a useful language to have because nobody else speaks it... so you can talk about things in public without people knowing what you're on about!
Is breá liom go hiomlán Dara O Brian, beagnach oiread agus is breá liom an Haitéir Mad. 's genius sé ar an bhfear grinn agus is breá liom díreach Eisean. É a thabhairt suas don Dara! Translation: I completely love Dara O Brian, almost as much as I love the Mad Hatter. He's a genius of a comedian and I just love Him. Give it up for Dara! I love my native language...
sorry i know this comment is ancient but i really want to learn irish because both my parents are from there, i cant find any resources at all online though would i literally just have to move there and integrate?
@FacnyCatFighter Ya I agree. I went to a Gaelscoil from age 4 and we did nearly everything through Irish at school. It didn't affect my later education at all. I went to an English-speaking secondary school. I actually think it made me better at learning other languages in the process as I learned how to switch mentally between languages in my head at a young age. I know a lot of people argue that Irish has no practical uses but that's not the point.
@STUNTS1516 Dara is actually from Wicklow, in the east, which is quite a poor area for native Irish speakers. There are people who are fluent in Irish outside the gaeltachta areas, granted they are few & far between. It's also a compulsory subject in Irish schools so it's taught throughout the Republic. I'm not fluent but I try to use Irish when I can & I'm not from any gaeltacht region.
To be fair, I'm Scottish and I know the lyrics to all three of our anthems, but I can't really remember all of the UK's God Save the Queen, and most English people seem to mumble most of it as well.
@STUNTS1516 Er, wrong. The population of the Gaeltacht alone is nearly 100,000. 60,000 of those have strong Irish. And that does not take into account people like myself who live aroundside the Gaeltacht, and who speak Irish - Or children in Gaelscoileanna who are also fluent which is another 50,000.
language. Language is one of the things that makes human beings what they are: it is not simply a faceless, emotionless tool, but a source of perspective. As an English-speaker, like yourself, I have sometimes not seen the point in learning other languages: I already speak 1 of the most-widely spoken languages on earth, but us English-speakers are losing out, we're limiting ourselves by being so narrow-minded. We need to learn other languages. The rest of the world is beating us at our own game.
It is a huge victory that Irish still lives. A victory over the Sassanach who tried to murder us, our language, and our culture. I am three generations from the Old Country, and my heart flies every time I hear the old language. Viva!
I've never heard anyone speaking Irish before, and to my uneducated ears, it kind of sounds like Dara's speaking Unwinese. My brain is trying to grasp the words, and I think I should understand him, but I just can't quite catch what he's saying. From what little I've heard, it sounds like a beautiful language.
well i am in america...and i am in love with the gaelic/celtic languages! It's crazy to think that people who are a ship away have no clue...makes me sad :(
Only Irish people can make fun of the Irish language. It's what gives us our sense of identity - complaining about how stupid the Irish language is. When an English person does it, it's not cool. It's like an Englishman going into a restaurant, and stealing the potatoes off an Irishman's dinner plate. You just don't do that!
Why Gaelic would be stupid? Welsh people learn more and more and still speak their language. Celtic languages are not for folklore but for identity and culture. And language is the first vehicle of the culture and identity (very often nationality and language names are the same, this is not by random). Sure this doesn't mean that English has to be given up, but it means that trilingualism (English/Celtic language/foreign language) is the best way to link serene identity and globalisation. The big majority of the mankind is at least bilingual or even trilingual.
***** The Great Famine has indeed accelarated the hyper-anglicisation. Before 1840, only Waterford, West Kerry, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Mayo county,Sligo county and Donegal county were Gaelophones, the rest had been yet anglicised since the XVIII° century mainly (anglicisation of the elite of Dublin, but also the farmers and the peasants of Athlone, so centre and south of the country was Anglophone, and of course the main part of Ulster with the Scottish and English plantations).
Translation of an Quebecker linguist (a good and reputed one, Jacques Leclerc, specialist of the linguistic minorities) has done an article on Republic of Ireland and languages (so on for all the countries and main areas). In this article, we can see , more especially, a map of the languages of Ireland in 1851, interested one, as it shows that big parts of centre and south had been yet anglicised. translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca%2Feurope%2Firlande.htm&edit-text=
@p0tazzium Irish isn't remotely related to English. It's not derived from Latin or German at all, the verb construction and sentence construction in Irish is as different from English as English is from Hungarian. Words like television (teilifís) and internet (idirlíon) are pretty similar in most languages. Irish is the second-oldest language in Europe and pre-dates modern English by over 1000 years.
If you type in "At the Edge archive: Celtic fallacy" into Google and follow the first link, there are two strong arguments by other academics, that ring close to mind, against Trubshaw. The Celts were in Britain, they didn't wipe out and replace the indigenous population, they set themselves up as rulers. Most of the male line is descended from them, but the female line is primarily from the Indigenous hunter gatherers. Scotland's roots politically are Celtic, no matter which language is spoken.
I wish that was the case. Being from the capital myself, aside from teachers, I don't know anyone else who speaks Irish fluently in this county. Fluent speakers would be more common in the North, West and South but in the East, very little. There are millions of us that are being taught it in schools I'm sure, but I would be inclined to believe that Ireland doesn't even have 100,000 native speakers. A fraction of that I would say. It's a real pity but, that's how it is nowadays unfortunately.
@Taraborn I speak English German Russian & Irish. Learning Irish was just as valuable as the other 2 languages- as it opens a door to all the history & culture that is valuable, beautiful and unique to this country. I don't think a country trying to preserve its cultural diversity, tradition and herritage is the same type of nationalism as 19'C biggoted imperialistic nationalism -. Indeed its quite the opposite - as it insists that all cultures and languages be treated equally. Gaeilge Abu!
@STUNTS1516 What are you on about? Irish is a compulsory subject taught all around Ireland, not just the west of the country. For someone who calls themselves Irish, you're not very clued up on Ireland. Irish isn't only strong in the west of Ireland btw - There are gaeltachtaí in Waterford, Cork, Kerry, Donegal and Meath, aswell as Galway & Mayo in the west. Not to mention, there are 100's of gaelscoileanna all around Ireland. I speak it as a daily language.
@TheFashionvictim6 I live in Northern Ireland. Regardless, I'm referring specifically to Irish language schools where they are taught to speak fluently.
They've similar words because they're of close relation but in terms of understanding it's like way french and english share a lot of vocabulary. I speak irish but only have a vague idea of what's been said in scots.
Haha. They have both got their own speech thing going on. Dara with his lisp. Jonathan Ross with his "Dawa o bwien" haha. Pure genius seeing them together.
What Dara said in the video (translation may not be perfect, haven't spoken Irish in a while). Lucy's parents said to her that they wanted her to go to a boarding school that boarding school is Ring College in Waterford and she was nervous. “I'm not sure about that” said Lucy but “I'll tell you what this is what we'll do” said Lucy to them I’ll take a camera to the place and I will make a movie to find out if there is any worth to it.” And this is the movie she made...
The Picts were just the northernmost Celts, The indigenous inhabitants from 10,000 years ago ruled over by the Indo-European Celts since 3,500 years ago. Due to mutual isolation because of the Irish sea and the Highlands, the languages gradually diverged with ancient Gaelic forming in Ireland and the west of Scotland. The clans on Britain refered to themselves collectively as the Prydain (people of forms), which the Romans incorrectly translated to Britain from the writings of Greek explorers.
I don't think at the time people were concerned about Celt vs Germanic, or thought that they were denying being a "Celt" at all. (I'm not really sure the concept and knowledge of ethnic history was around at the time). It was straight up Protestant and Government vs Catholic and "Rebel". William II (Second in Scotland) was married to Mary II who was the closest Protestant heir to the Stuart crown so that's why they were practically invited in by the majority Protestants.
@IoEstasCedonta Yea he does.It's normal enough to add a few English words here and there and because English is our first language it has had an impact on how even native Irish speakers talk. Also with so many new words being added due to new technologies or whatever we just use the English version as there is no point making up new irish words for them. If you talk to Germans you will notice that they too have adopted English words into their language.
I was referring to what yngir1 was saying "Havent a clue bout the Scots 1." To which my reply was "pronounced 'Gallick'" It would help with RUclips kept threads together. I agree with the Georgian guy- other countries have kept their languages after centuries of prohibition by other countries. During the 87 years that there has been an independent Irish state, Israel has managed to revive Hebrew as a modern language. Is mor an trua e, nach ea?
@STUNTS1516 I haven't contradicted myself at all. I haven't made up any facts whatsoever. In the 2002 census showed that 1,570,894 people claimed to be able to speak Irish. This is our official census. However, I am being very conservative when I say around 150,000 people. The gaeltacht population is about 100,000 people, the gaelscoileanna population is about 50,000 people. Then there are probably anywhere between 50,000 - 100,000 outside of the gaeltacht who can speak Irish. Its hard to count.
he talks so fast!!!!!! gosh, im irish, now i know how i sound, i often be speaking away and realise everyone is looking at me with eyes that say they are listening to the sounds coming out but the words are all joined together!! opps!!
@dimgwalltameibenDingle is a full of Irish speakers and i know allot of people from there and they are irish teachers in Dublin. There is no point in being negative. Any progress is good. "An té nach gcuireann san earrach ní bhaineann sé san fhómhar."
@valentass88 most people in ireland speak english, there are some places where they speak it alot. And as for the accent, not all people in ireland actually have a really irish accent, like people from around where im from.
@dansimmons21 thats really sweet of you :') not many people appreciate culture and language but i love irish and make an effort to speak it as much as possible :3
I don't really know what you mean, I think I use the word correctly. In a historic context I'd use Celts to mean the ancient peoples closely linked by language and culture of modern day France, Belgium, Britain, Ireland, some of Spain, and some of northern Italy. Germans the same but north of the Alps and in southern Scandinavia. And then the peoples/culture/language directly descended from them into modern times. Despite ancient Gaulic sounding closer to ancient German than it does to S.Gaelic.
There are over a billion people in India too and they speak Hindi and English. Many European countries like Finland have it as a de facto second language not to mention Nigeria and other African countries. Then there are places like Japan where it is required to be taught in school.
@acledmaiden You really don't get it, do you? It is about preserving a culture, preserving a sense of identity in a rapidly changing world, giving oneself a cultural base, and feeling proud about who you are. "All art is absolutely useless," says Oscar Wilde, who intended it as praise. Something doesn't have to be useful to be important, in fact, it is often the most "useless" things that free us from the tyranny of the mindless progress. How would you like to be subject to natural selection?
On some level Irish makes me think of Finnish and Swedish. I mean Finland was under the rule of Sweden, Swedish is therefore an official language in Finland and you have to learn it in school... Well, I don't blame you if you don't see any connection. :P Go Irish!
The history of this is rooted in religious discord. Gaelic was associated with Catholicism and Papists in Scotland and Ireland and was stamped on partially to quell rebellion and religious dissent. In Wales however, there was less religious discord although many people were Non-Conformists (chapel goers) and the Sunday schools were often run by native Welsh who taught the bible, reading and writing in Welsh. The Scottish and Irish churches (Protestant at the time) did not support Gaelic.
Part of me wanted to burst out laughing during that clip from Echo Island, but I just ended up going "Aaaawwww!". But in all seriousness, It's such a wonderful and awesome language. I'd love to learn it. It's on my list just behind ASL and Polish.
@STUNTS1516 The idea of bilingualism is obviously lost on you. There are more bilingual people in the world than monolingual. Just because I can speak English, doesn't mean that I choose to speak it. I speak Irish with my friends because it's a much more expressive language for me. And 150,000 people isn't "very few", considering the population is only 4 million.
@DeanMalenko No No he did say tell ya what... there are some phrases and words that are just said in English cuz there would be no Irish traslation for them...
1 phrase that you need to get by in Irish; Póg mo thón. You can google it. The more recent Irish words tend to have letters that aren't supposed to be used in Irish like 'v' (eg. Wardrobe = vardrús)
@JessikaTheGamer Yes but you could argue that for a language to be revived all you need is a growing population, and people who feel it important, and are willing, to keep the language alive. It is already taught in schools and there are Irish medium schools etc, which is a good start. At the end of the day a decreasing population will defeat any language, whether it is a dead one or a very much alive one.
I read that almost all the mDNA, the maternal, all over, came from the original hunter gatherer settlers that came between the ice sheets retreating and the creation of the islands from the mainland. I can't find the study, looked for 5 minutes, can't find it, but it highlighted that paternal DNA shows that male ancestors are primarily those from the migratory elites. something like 60-70% Celtic for S/I/W, some Near East and Germanic, gradually changing to
haha I was just talking about this to my friends. People take things to literally. When most Americans say they are a certain nationality, they are referring to their ancestry. They're not claiming to be a citizen. I am an American but I have ancestors from all over the world.
The funny thing about Irish (as I hear it here) is that it sounds more like English than any other language I can think of. That is to say, I couldn't understand a word of it, but it doesn't have the sibilance of Spanish, or the vowels of French or other romance languages, or the consonants of Germanic languages... it SOUNDS like English but of course is utterly different.
Dara O'Briain is an example of someone who appreciates the Irish Language and its importance without acting superior because of his fluency
yeah but ross can accept he doesn't know something respectfully without being insulting about another culture unlike that conan guy
I like hearing people using their native language, like here Dara speaking the Irish language, and Sandi Toksvig speaking Danish on QI. It's very interesting to hear.
Same with that programme Huw Edwards did about Patagonia, when he spoke to many of the locals in Welsh. I have yet to hear Sandi speak Danish, alas.
Dara's primary language is definitely English.
@@emailvonsour primary is not necessarily native/mother
People sometimes forget all these Comedians are clever people. They are no fools and serious people.
I went to an all irish primary and secondary school and I'm glad to know my language fluently
love the way english people are so oblivious "what language are u speaking?" well considoring hes irish and it was an Irish tv show .................... hes speaking german
It is so annoying even tho all other celtic languages existed before english
I`ll say that not all English people are like that....a lot, but not all.
Yes Jonathon woss represents all of us. He is ‘the English’.
Yeah but Chinese people don’t speak Chinese, so asking someone what tongue they speak is quite a sensible question actually.
@@RickyMacHatton he probably did this to talk about gaelic while knowing what language it was
There's having linguistic banter, and then there's just asking dumb questions and making easy jokes. I'm sure you can guess which one applies to Wossy
Wait. Are you saying Ross actually made a joke?
Zarabada attempted more like
Because Jonathan Ross has the same speech impediment that Wendy Beckett the art historian and Roman Catholic nun used to have when she was alive that being pronouncing her R's as W's.
As a native Irish speaker I have to say when everyone is complaining about the education system and about how it's thought having one native speaker, willing to help, in everyone school is very helpful. I thought about 10 of my friends(0 are Irish) to be fluent. They moved here when they were about 8. The motivation and the help from a peer is what we need.
It's not even that. It's the way Irish is taught? We teach Irish the same way we teach English. Which is ridiculous. I left school knowing far more German than Irish. I was borderline fluent in German because German was taught like a foreign langue, Irish was taught like literature. If Irish was the same way we're taught French or Spanish I promise more kids would leave school knowing it.
Either that or gaelscoils should be made compulsory, but trying to find teachers fluent in Irish would be impossible.
@@melchristensen8282 it's not even taught like English, it's taught like so.e weird mix between a foreign language and a first language. Which is even worse.
Lalealyn 'taught'. In fairness it could have been predictive text.
*You never learn any language from school.*
Trust me I was in a German class in school for 3 years. I learned nothing.
maybe just accept some people dont wish to speak it and get on with your life
Everyone learns Irish in school for at least 11 years. So everyone has Irish but not many feel confident using it because of how it is taught and the fact that you don't use it day to day unless you live in an Irish speaking home. It is a beautiful language and I think alot of Irish people wish they could speak it better. Tá orainn é a usáid gan ró náire bheith orainn faoi botún a dhéanamh. We should use the language without being too embarassed about making mistakes. Ar aghaidh linn.
"I speak Irish all the time and I love it! Country without language, country without soul."
Tír gan teanga is tír gan anam!
I have been to the Republic of Ireland on holiday once (got to say, beautiful country!) and i came across a lot of Irish Speakers, although this may have been due to the areas I visited.
I dont know if you know, But officially, European Union considers Irish to be the official spoken language of the Republic of Ireland and sends all legal documents and letters to the ROI in Irish.
It's the official government language of Ireland too. The Irish text of all the laws and constitution and stuff takes precedence over the English text. Even though all the stuff is drafted in English first and then translated to Irish.
@@Jotari And yet, the politics in the Dáil is all done through English
@@cigh7445 I think TDs are required to know Irish.
@@Jotari faraor ní sin an fhírinne, tá iliomad TD nach bhfuil fiú focal amháin acu.
I watched "No Béarla" again the other day. Such a great documentary by Manchán Magan
There are certain people in the comments section who don't have a clue about history and don't know what they're talking about.
One of the great joys of the internet.
you might as well post that for every single video on the internet
@@staticfanatic A bit like seagulls; sometimes they hit, sometimes they miss.
I just got done taking an Irish refresher course on Duolingo. Even as an American, I watch Mock the Week on RUclips all the time, and I wanted to know what it sounded like for Dara O'Briain to speak Irish.
I was not disappointed.
it makes me very happy to hear that some people care and are happily keeping it alive!
Why would iPod have a different name in Irish? It's a proper noun...
+landofold Ireland is a proper name as well.
I think Ross was looking for the improper noun guthán póca (pocket phone) mobile/cell phone kind of examples.
iPod isn't a noun. It's a trade name
Germany is a proper noun, but it aint called Germany in German.
Hellwyck iPod is a proper noun
I'm fluent in Irish went to school in Irish and love dara :)
and I'm not offended by Ross , love him and the show :))))
I work in Brasil (Rio) and like yourself I speak Gaelic amongst our tiny Patriotic bunch - Always Proud of my Mother Tongue - Oiche Mhaith a Cara - :-)
Irish girl In Spain Ja pracuje dwanaście godzinne zmiany w fabryce
I just found out that Ireland had its own language and I felt like I have been living underground for 20 years. I am Macedonian, we still fight for our nation,we fight for our identity, we fight for our ancestors,history, language, land even though we are losing. The ethnic Albanians won 2001 conflict, the Bulgarians have our heroes tombs and the Greeks have 50% of our land and they have strong propaganda and nazism
BUT YOU DON'T SEE US GIVING UP, YOU SHOULDNT TOO
IRELAND TO THE IRISH!!
Slainte!
Actually if that guy has ever taken a look at Niall O'Donaill's Focloir Gaelige-Bearla I think he'll find that Irish is as equally developed a language as any other. Every English word imaginable has an Irish translation. Thing is, because there are so few completely fluent speakers, most of us don't come across or use the more abstract words.
Haha! That is so cool! In the clip from "Echo Island", Mr. O Briain has the same speaking style and gestures as he does on "Mock the Week"!
Thanks for uploading!
My favourite modern word in Irish is Féinphic 😂 is é an focal is fearr! Tá sé aiteach ach nach bhfuil gach rude as Gaeilge píosa beag aiteach? 😂
Our teacher told us about that when it was officially added to the language xD (or was it just to focal.ie?)
Uhm... D'inis ár múinteoir linn faoi sin nuair a bhí sé chuir leis an dteanga go hoifigiúil? (I'm a bit rusty)
Also, I assume focal.ie changed their name because of what it sounds like in English, which amuses me :P
That's Béarlachas shit
Féinphic, lol níor chuala mé é sin roimh
D'fhoglaim mé é le deanai i mo pop-up gaeltacht, ina dhiadh sin "Cáis!"
Actually, BOTH English and Irish are considered the official languages of the Republic and all legal documents and letters are sent in both languages. Any official mail we receive from the government, such as information on referendums, is also sent in both languages.
And, as an Irish person, I agree with David in that there actually aren't a lot of fluent Irish speakers in Ireland, unless they've taken Irish as a module or course in college.
The Scottish were an Irish tribe that broke away and moved from Ireland to Scotland between the 3rd and 6th Centuries.Scotish,Irish and Manx are languages which originated in Gaelic,once only spoken in Ireland.Hence why its mainly the Western isles of Scotland that speak it (being closer to Ireland)
im english,but i think that gaelic should not die down, in all of the celtic countries, its a really nice language. my friend speaks it with his family and it fascinates me.
I'm fascinated by the fact that Dara has the exact same "voice" talking Irish and English.
Usually people sound pretty different to me depending on the language they're speaking in. I know I do. But Dara's tone and inflection are exactly the same.
That's because he's using mostly English language phonetics with an Irish accent to speak it
If you go to Radio na Gaeltachta online you can hear a lot of real native speakers who don't sound the same as English speaking
@@cigh7445 Nope, it’s because he’s from Bray, County Wicklow. He _is_ a native speaker. He just said he grew up speaking it with his dad.
There may be different accents around the country but there’s no such a thing as Irish ‘with English language phonetics’. Irish is the _national_ language of Ireland … the whole country, not just particular counties. It would be ludicrous for someone from Wicklow to speak Irish as though they came from Kerry or Mayo or Donegal.
Is mise le meas,
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@@Clodaghbob hear hear. Nothing so annoying as somebody from the east of the country trying to speak Irish with a Conamara accent. Just doesn't sound natural a lot of the time.
@@fromireland8663 Yes, it’s almost as annoying as someone from the North ( _An bhfuil tú istigh, a Ci gh? Dia dhuit!_ ) thinking that people from the East should sound like people from the West or the South... or be considered a Sasanach ( _yikes!!_ ). Perhaps, following their line of logic, young people from the far reaches of Connemara and Kerry should be deposited in the middle of Dublin’s inner city for two weeks’ immersion in proper English pronunciation and to absorb the ‘blas Bearla’. There’s nothing quite like a little ‘blas’ in your life, is there. 😃👍🇮🇪
I've always wanted to learn Irish. I'm only half Irish, but my grandparents are from Galway, and they only started speaking English when they moved to London about a decade or so ago.
I love how Dara just goes "I'll tell you what" hahah
Dara O' Briain - what a guy, comedian, theoretical physicist and a linguist all wrapped into one brilliant man!
That was the most adorable no I've heard this year.
Totally agree with you on the value of learning more than one language as a child. Everyone I know who learned more than one language young has benefited from it, and many people find it makes it easier to learn other languages later. Personally I'd never intentionally raise a child to only speak one language. Though I'm Canadian so it would probably be French and English.
Dara being so defensive about his wife is adorable tbh...
The orthography may look unusual to a new learner, but as someone who came to Irish as a completely fresh pair of eyes, I can say that after a while it makes total sense and follows rules which can be learnt like anything else.
Very few languages spell phonetically, learning the spelling conventions is just part of learning the language.
Also phonetic spelling wouldn't reflect the diversity of pronunciations in the different dialects, every language needs a standardised written form.
you could tell he was a wee bit pissed off about the ripping of the Gaeilge, but i think he handled it brilliantly - ach feumaidh mi radh nach robh cail a dh'fhios 'am gu robh esan na ghaidheal, sin h-awesome
Holy christ... I remember watching Echo Island back in the day...
And Irish is a useful language to have because nobody else speaks it... so you can talk about things in public without people knowing what you're on about!
Love hearing Dara speaking in Irish!
@Cityside90 Thanks for the support. It could be. I think DeValera said that it was 700 when we achieved Independance
Is breá liom go hiomlán Dara O Brian, beagnach oiread agus is breá liom an Haitéir Mad. 's genius sé ar an bhfear grinn agus is breá liom díreach Eisean. É a thabhairt suas don Dara!
Translation:
I completely love Dara O Brian, almost as much as I love the Mad Hatter. He's a genius of a comedian and I just love Him. Give it up for Dara!
I love my native language...
sorry i know this comment is ancient but i really want to learn irish because both my parents are from there, i cant find any resources at all online though would i literally just have to move there and integrate?
@FacnyCatFighter Ya I agree. I went to a Gaelscoil from age 4 and we did nearly everything through Irish at school. It didn't affect my later education at all. I went to an English-speaking secondary school. I actually think it made me better at learning other languages in the process as I learned how to switch mentally between languages in my head at a young age. I know a lot of people argue that Irish has no practical uses but that's not the point.
Wow, that's incredible.
I dont know why the 40 unlikes came from this is pure class;- and no insulting on any side.
Tabhair dom caca milis. Is brea liom caca milis. An bhfuil cead agam dul go dtí an leathreas?
One of my favourite inspirational quotes in Irish.
No, eat your own fucking 🍰
@STUNTS1516 Dara is actually from Wicklow, in the east, which is quite a poor area for native Irish speakers. There are people who are fluent in Irish outside the gaeltachta areas, granted they are few & far between. It's also a compulsory subject in Irish schools so it's taught throughout the Republic. I'm not fluent but I try to use Irish when I can & I'm not from any gaeltacht region.
Well, he does have a point haha. The English typically lost their coversation skills long before us.
Does Dara say "tell you what" at around 0:43?
It would be some random in the middle of the Gaelic!
To be fair, I'm Scottish and I know the lyrics to all three of our anthems, but I can't really remember all of the UK's God Save the Queen, and most English people seem to mumble most of it as well.
@STUNTS1516 Er, wrong. The population of the Gaeltacht alone is nearly 100,000. 60,000 of those have strong Irish. And that does not take into account people like myself who live aroundside the Gaeltacht, and who speak Irish - Or children in Gaelscoileanna who are also fluent which is another 50,000.
Bím ag caint as Gaeilge an t-am ar fad agus is aoibhinn liom é! Tir gan teanga, tir gan anam.
** Is aoibhinn liom í ** bainiscineach cara
He knows all of that. Jonathan Ross knows exactly what he's doing. Save for the few moments that he directly flatters guests he never drops the irony.
Oh, Irish people! Please don't let your beautiful language die out. It'd be a devastating loss to all of Europe.
language. Language is one of the things that makes human beings what they are: it is not simply a faceless, emotionless tool, but a source of perspective. As an English-speaker, like yourself, I have sometimes not seen the point in learning other languages: I already speak 1 of the most-widely spoken languages on earth, but us English-speakers are losing out, we're limiting ourselves by being so narrow-minded. We need to learn other languages. The rest of the world is beating us at our own game.
It is a huge victory that Irish still lives. A victory over the Sassanach who tried to murder us, our language, and our culture. I am three generations from the Old Country, and my heart flies every time I hear the old language. Viva!
TheLakewind exactly , so much irish blood shed - especially by the oppressive british
I've never heard anyone speaking Irish before, and to my uneducated ears, it kind of sounds like Dara's speaking Unwinese. My brain is trying to grasp the words, and I think I should understand him, but I just can't quite catch what he's saying. From what little I've heard, it sounds like a beautiful language.
go maith
King balor You again
well i am in america...and i am in love with the gaelic/celtic languages! It's crazy to think that people who are a ship away have no clue...makes me sad :(
Very irritating the way Jonathan Ross always talks over his guests.
OMG I went to Rinn for two summers!!
Love Dara and He's brilliant at Irish!
Only Irish people can make fun of the Irish language. It's what gives us our sense of identity - complaining about how stupid the Irish language is. When an English person does it, it's not cool. It's like an Englishman going into a restaurant, and stealing the potatoes off an Irishman's dinner plate. You just don't do that!
Why Gaelic would be stupid? Welsh people learn more and more and still speak their language. Celtic languages are not for folklore but for identity and culture. And language is the first vehicle of the culture and identity (very often nationality and language names are the same, this is not by random). Sure this doesn't mean that English has to be given up, but it means that trilingualism (English/Celtic language/foreign language) is the best way to link serene identity and globalisation. The big majority of the mankind is at least bilingual or even trilingual.
***** The Great Famine has indeed accelarated the hyper-anglicisation. Before 1840, only Waterford, West Kerry, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Mayo county,Sligo county and Donegal county were Gaelophones, the rest had been yet anglicised since the XVIII° century mainly (anglicisation of the elite of Dublin, but also the farmers and the peasants of Athlone, so centre and south of the country was Anglophone, and of course the main part of Ulster with the Scottish and English plantations).
Translation of an Quebecker linguist (a good and reputed one, Jacques Leclerc, specialist of the linguistic minorities) has done an article on Republic of Ireland and languages (so on for all the countries and main areas). In this article, we can see , more especially, a map of the languages of Ireland in 1851, interested one, as it shows that big parts of centre and south had been yet anglicised. translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca%2Feurope%2Firlande.htm&edit-text=
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Go tell Peter O Toole's daughter Kate if you have the courage to do so !Who do you think you are!!!!!!
@p0tazzium Irish isn't remotely related to English. It's not derived from Latin or German at all, the verb construction and sentence construction in Irish is as different from English as English is from Hungarian. Words like television (teilifís) and internet (idirlíon) are pretty similar in most languages. Irish is the second-oldest language in Europe and pre-dates modern English by over 1000 years.
Omg I laughed so hard at Jonathan attempting an Irish accent so funny x
If you type in "At the Edge archive: Celtic fallacy" into Google and follow the first link, there are two strong arguments by other academics, that ring close to mind, against Trubshaw.
The Celts were in Britain, they didn't wipe out and replace the indigenous population, they set themselves up as rulers. Most of the male line is descended from them, but the female line is primarily from the Indigenous hunter gatherers.
Scotland's roots politically are Celtic, no matter which language is spoken.
I wish that was the case. Being from the capital myself, aside from teachers, I don't know anyone else who speaks Irish fluently in this county. Fluent speakers would be more common in the North, West and South but in the East, very little. There are millions of us that are being taught it in schools I'm sure, but I would be inclined to believe that Ireland doesn't even have 100,000 native speakers. A fraction of that I would say. It's a real pity but, that's how it is nowadays unfortunately.
@Taraborn
I speak English German Russian & Irish. Learning Irish was just as valuable as the other 2 languages- as it opens a door to all the history & culture that is valuable, beautiful and unique to this country. I don't think a country trying to preserve its cultural diversity, tradition and herritage is the same type of nationalism as 19'C biggoted imperialistic nationalism -. Indeed its quite the opposite - as it insists that all cultures and languages be treated equally.
Gaeilge Abu!
@STUNTS1516 What are you on about? Irish is a compulsory subject taught all around Ireland, not just the west of the country. For someone who calls themselves Irish, you're not very clued up on Ireland.
Irish isn't only strong in the west of Ireland btw - There are gaeltachtaí in Waterford, Cork, Kerry, Donegal and Meath, aswell as Galway & Mayo in the west. Not to mention, there are 100's of gaelscoileanna all around Ireland. I speak it as a daily language.
Tá mé go mhaith! Agus tú féin?
Tá mo chroí istigh an Gaeilge!!
Ca bhfuil tu i do chónaí??
It is taught in schools. I've been learning Irish for eight years and I'm only 13 :)
@TheFashionvictim6 I live in Northern Ireland.
Regardless, I'm referring specifically to Irish language schools where they are taught to speak fluently.
I was not. I've recently taken up learning it and it is spectacularly beautiful with some insane complications to it. Ní furasta í an teanga seo.
@guitarist1609 In Wales, it is the law to learn Welsh until your 16. Do they have the same thing in Ireland ?
They've similar words because they're of close relation but in terms of understanding it's like way french and english share a lot of vocabulary. I speak irish but only have a vague idea of what's been said in scots.
Haha. They have both got their own speech thing going on. Dara with his lisp. Jonathan Ross with his "Dawa o bwien" haha. Pure genius seeing them together.
What Dara said in the video (translation may not be perfect, haven't spoken Irish in a while).
Lucy's parents said to her that they wanted her to go to a boarding school that boarding school is Ring College in Waterford and she was nervous. “I'm not sure about that” said Lucy but “I'll tell you what this is what we'll do” said Lucy to them I’ll take a camera to the place and I will make a movie to find out if there is any worth to it.” And this is the movie she made...
I love dara obriain and i always smile when i see him speak irish
The Picts were just the northernmost Celts, The indigenous inhabitants from 10,000 years ago ruled over by the Indo-European Celts since 3,500 years ago. Due to mutual isolation because of the Irish sea and the Highlands, the languages gradually diverged with ancient Gaelic forming in Ireland and the west of Scotland. The clans on Britain refered to themselves collectively as the Prydain (people of forms), which the Romans incorrectly translated to Britain from the writings of Greek explorers.
I don't think at the time people were concerned about Celt vs Germanic, or thought that they were denying being a "Celt" at all. (I'm not really sure the concept and knowledge of ethnic history was around at the time).
It was straight up Protestant and Government vs Catholic and "Rebel". William II (Second in Scotland) was married to Mary II who was the closest Protestant heir to the Stuart crown so that's why they were practically invited in by the majority Protestants.
@IoEstasCedonta Yea he does.It's normal enough to add a few English words here and there and because English is our first language it has had an impact on how even native Irish speakers talk.
Also with so many new words being added due to new technologies or whatever we just use the English version as there is no point making up new irish words for them.
If you talk to Germans you will notice that they too have adopted English words into their language.
I was referring to what yngir1 was saying "Havent a clue bout the Scots 1." To which my reply was "pronounced 'Gallick'"
It would help with RUclips kept threads together.
I agree with the Georgian guy- other countries have kept their languages after centuries of prohibition by other countries. During the 87 years that there has been an independent Irish state, Israel has managed to revive Hebrew as a modern language. Is mor an trua e, nach ea?
@STUNTS1516 I haven't contradicted myself at all. I haven't made up any facts whatsoever. In the 2002 census showed that 1,570,894 people claimed to be able to speak Irish. This is our official census. However, I am being very conservative when I say around 150,000 people. The gaeltacht population is about 100,000 people, the gaelscoileanna population is about 50,000 people. Then there are probably anywhere between 50,000 - 100,000 outside of the gaeltacht who can speak Irish. Its hard to count.
he talks so fast!!!!!! gosh, im irish, now i know how i sound, i often be speaking away and realise everyone is looking at me with eyes that say they are listening to the sounds coming out but the words are all joined together!! opps!!
but in the 1980's Margaret Thatcher denied the release of Northern Ireland back to the state.
@dimgwalltameibenDingle is a full of Irish speakers and i know allot of people from there and they are irish teachers in Dublin. There is no point in being negative. Any progress is good.
"An té nach gcuireann san earrach
ní bhaineann sé san fhómhar."
@valentass88 most people in ireland speak english, there are some places where they speak it alot. And as for the accent, not all people in ireland actually have a really irish accent, like people from around where im from.
@dansimmons21 thats really sweet of you :') not many people appreciate culture and language but i love irish and make an effort to speak it as much as possible :3
I don't really know what you mean, I think I use the word correctly.
In a historic context I'd use Celts to mean the ancient peoples closely linked by language and culture of modern day France, Belgium, Britain, Ireland, some of Spain, and some of northern Italy.
Germans the same but north of the Alps and in southern Scandinavia.
And then the peoples/culture/language directly descended from them into modern times.
Despite ancient Gaulic sounding closer to ancient German than it does to S.Gaelic.
I just meant that the term comes from the self given name of a Celtic tribe in Spain, but also have proposed one north of Greece, I'm not sure.
where are you from i find it quite hard in the aural listing to the Donegal irish
I really think that all Irish kids should be taught Irish from Primary school. My local Primary school teaches the students to speak fluently.
I'm still in schooling and can understand most of it,I wish to become fluent and with a native teacher I have the best chance(Donegal Gaelthacht)
There are over a billion people in India too and they speak Hindi and English. Many European countries like Finland have it as a de facto second language not to mention Nigeria and other African countries. Then there are places like Japan where it is required to be taught in school.
@acledmaiden You really don't get it, do you? It is about preserving a culture, preserving a sense of identity in a rapidly changing world, giving oneself a cultural base, and feeling proud about who you are. "All art is absolutely useless," says Oscar Wilde, who intended it as praise. Something doesn't have to be useful to be important, in fact, it is often the most "useless" things that free us from the tyranny of the mindless progress. How would you like to be subject to natural selection?
On some level Irish makes me think of Finnish and Swedish. I mean Finland was under the rule of Sweden, Swedish is therefore an official language in Finland and you have to learn it in school... Well, I don't blame you if you don't see any connection. :P
Go Irish!
I wonder if jonathan has ever visited iwwland
@EdTheBadass acctualy actually it is an offical language in europe...
The history of this is rooted in religious discord. Gaelic was associated with Catholicism and Papists in Scotland and Ireland and was stamped on partially to quell rebellion and religious dissent.
In Wales however, there was less religious discord although many people were Non-Conformists (chapel goers) and the Sunday schools were often run by native Welsh who taught the bible, reading and writing in Welsh.
The Scottish and Irish churches (Protestant at the time) did not support Gaelic.
Part of me wanted to burst out laughing during that clip from Echo Island, but I just ended up going "Aaaawwww!". But in all seriousness, It's such a wonderful and awesome language. I'd love to learn it. It's on my list just behind ASL and Polish.
@STUNTS1516 The idea of bilingualism is obviously lost on you. There are more bilingual people in the world than monolingual. Just because I can speak English, doesn't mean that I choose to speak it. I speak Irish with my friends because it's a much more expressive language for me.
And 150,000 people isn't "very few", considering the population is only 4 million.
@DeanMalenko No No he did say tell ya what... there are some phrases and words that are just said in English cuz there would be no Irish traslation for them...
1 phrase that you need to get by in Irish; Póg mo thón. You can google it. The more recent Irish words tend to have letters that aren't supposed to be used in Irish like 'v' (eg. Wardrobe = vardrús)
@JessikaTheGamer Yes but you could argue that for a language to be revived all you need is a growing population, and people who feel it important, and are willing, to keep the language alive. It is already taught in schools and there are Irish medium schools etc, which is a good start. At the end of the day a decreasing population will defeat any language, whether it is a dead one or a very much alive one.
the irish language is thought in schools in ireland.from Sr.infants until 6th year in secondary school you dont have a choice of doing it you must.
I read that almost all the mDNA, the maternal, all over, came from the original hunter gatherer settlers that came between the ice sheets retreating and the creation of the islands from the mainland.
I can't find the study, looked for 5 minutes, can't find it, but it highlighted that paternal DNA shows that male ancestors are primarily those from the migratory elites. something like 60-70% Celtic for S/I/W, some Near East and Germanic, gradually changing to
haha I was just talking about this to my friends. People take things to literally. When most Americans say they are a certain nationality, they are referring to their ancestry. They're not claiming to be a citizen. I am an American but I have ancestors from all over the world.
The funny thing about Irish (as I hear it here) is that it sounds more like English than any other language I can think of. That is to say, I couldn't understand a word of it, but it doesn't have the sibilance of Spanish, or the vowels of French or other romance languages, or the consonants of Germanic languages... it SOUNDS like English but of course is utterly different.