Used Murdock's method last year and grew the most incredible seedlings! It really works. I grew 15 different varieties and they all transplanted and took off with vigor. Saved all my red cups and will definitely repeat the process this year!! I used small stones in the bottom cup for separation. Thanks Murdock!!
I see that the second cup gives roots more space, but is that just another 1/2 to 1"? so if the seeds come out of the bottom of the first cup, do you cut the cup to get the plant out?
Hey Murdock, just came across this video and had to laugh when you said about digging up some lawn to grow some stuff... last year as I was chopping out another 10' of backyard lawn my neighbor leaned out her window and asked me if I was expanding my garden again... I said ABSOLUTELY- and I told her because "You can't eat grass".. New Sub & thanks for the hints with the Solo cups.
Janotes You can eat grass. My family for instance for a few years put baby bummer lambs into a calf hut. We bottle fed it for a month or two. I can’t remember but when the weather was warm we put the lamb onto grass. We had four lambs eating the grass down. We had to move them ever few days so the grass wasn’t over grazed. I really think way too many people focus on growing things like plants and never consider that could grow lambs or chickens on their lawn. Also you need a calf hut so when the sprinklers turn on at night they can go into the hut and stay dry.
Thank you, Murdock! New subscriber here. I had my first garden many years ago. We had a drought that year. But my favorite memory of it is when a shower finally came, (only one, not enough to save the garden) my husband and I were in the garden, and dirty.... quickly muddy. We ran, holding hands and laughing, back to the house. Then, a couple of years later, I tried tomato gardening in a container. Not having access to RUclips, or other gardeners, another fail. Last year, with the help of RUclips and many gardeners, I made a container garden, and my husband built me a raised garden bed. Finally, at 66 I am learning. We had a small harvest. This is year 2! Spring garden is planted, but I will be using your two cup method for my tomatoes. I learn something new every year. Thank you for creating these videos! God bless you, your family, and all gardeners and farmers. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so very much for those kind words. It make me feel awesome to know it's helping folks. I got tired of seeing people charging for their advice or just trying to sell junk to people. Folks need help right now getting growing. We as brothers and sisters in this world are to care for each other.....not charge folks for info. Good knowledge especially from the garden should be free flowing and full of ideas. I always tell folks that father started with a garden for a reason.....it was the best place for his children to grow ❤️ I'm super excited to hear about your results as the year progresses. I wish you and the hubby the happiest and most blessed garden season ever! I hope you grow more than you know what to do with ❤️ 😇🙏
The presentation style, the info, the easy listening voice, the focus on basics, I must say this was a great watch. Sage advice at the end. Excellent 😊🙋
Just wanted to say that I grew 40 tomato plants starting in early March this year. whole set up worked really well for me. I will do the same next year. Thank you! Ps, I almost never turned the lights out. Like Alaskan Summer.
Been gardening for YEARS, and there always seems to be more to learn! Thanks for these brilliant tips! I can't believe how much root structure develops in a mere 30 days. This is DEFINITELY going to jump-start this year's crop!
Without seeing this....just started a double cup system on my tomatoes also. The inner cup is peat cup worh with the bottom cut off. Outer cup Solo with 3 weep holes about 3/16 diameter. That way when the plant is big enough, just pull out the peat cut and transplant into ground or container ...also allows the root release easily . Great video. ☝️
Every year will be my best year ever. I got a soil test kit and all 3 N P K were deficient. Which is amazing to me since I put cow manure in my bed every spring and put leaves, about 5 inches thick during the fall. In December I mix it all up. And I'm deficient. Smdh. So, got some amendments and some perlite and we'll see how I do this year.... my best year yet!
That's right! It's gonna be an epic year in the garden. Even with heavy composting, mulching and every other natural thing I can think of, I still have to add amendments as I go along even though they're organic. Plants eat a lot lol 😂
If you haven't already tied them, you should try some Cherokee Purple Tomatoes. They are super sweet and delicious. Your method worked to perfection for me last year, so I have more grow lights now and have expanded. I also have a biochar kiln and have added charged biochar to over half of my garden boxes. It seems to work as well as I had hoped. Thank You!!!
That is so awesome 😎😎😎 I absolutely love reading the comments from the Patriot gardeners who are just rocking it. I am more than happy to hear about your success. I took am expanding. Future videos are going to include high intensity discharge lighting, grow tents and a very special episode that I'm about to post up with the giant red Solo cup method 😱😳 lol 🤣 I'm hearing all sorts of wonderful stories of folks getting the biggest and strongest plants they have ever started....... It's a win win for me. I want to see you all make it and be happy and well fed...... It's working! Thank you for your very kind comment. I've got much more in store in the future for you kids. Going to be a great year to grow 🌱❤️😇
I do actually have a few Cherokee purple, they must be very good because I have to fight the mockingbird that lives in my neighborhood for them hahahahaha 😜😂 I did find they were a bit touchy on the watering side even for a tomato 🍅......but well worth the fuss. The fruits look very neat as well .
I have used the double cup method for a number of years. Am trying a system based on a clear outer cup so I can keep an eye on how much liquid has drained out of the inner. Your videos open a lot of doors regarding soil specs but here in New Zealand the selection is a bit limited so lots of compost. Thanks. Also like the video about Strawberries which can be very expensive in the stores.
Thank you...let me know how the clear outer cup does.....I'm curious if the light will shock them 🤔 That is a great idea 💡 for monitoring it well....even for root development. Thank you for that response ❤️
I've never grown anything from seed. This video was very informative and you gave me the confidence that I needed. I'm looking to possibly having the best tomatoes in the neighborhood. Thank you so much!
Great video! Tip: When setting the seedlings in your garden bed, Lay your long plants horizontally in the ground, bury the stem circa 3 inches deep, with just the last 3rd of the crown sticking up, that will create a huge root system. The entire buried portion of the stem will send out roots; we routinely get 9 foot tall plants that way. Just be sure the not hit the horizontal stem when driving in stakes,
That is a really good idea. I have done horizontal planning before with some really long leggy plants I got at home depot. Did a really great job. If you go watch the transplant video I do I actually did one even better. I planted the plant 1/3 underground like we normally would do so we get those big Roots but when it grew the first set of suckers that came off I trained them down to the ground and then buried them creating two other side root masses for the plant........that baby got 12' tall an about seven feet wide hahahahaha..... I totally underestimated what bearing those runners was going to do. Thank you for that good point. It is always about those roots and getting that big root mass for those tomato plants. The more Roots the bigger the plant and more fruit it will produce. Happy gardening Patriot ❤️
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 Great idea, I never thought of getting exponential growth by optimization of suckers that way! Will be trying it this season.
i love starting in cups, if i time things wrong, they have space to grow and im planting outside a nice sized plant. also i dont get hundreds of seedlings i dont need., i double cuped cause im in a dry climate and so they dont dry out while i harden them off outside. i didnt realize to let them root outside first cup!! You can put a little stone, pebble, in bottom of cup then it keeps space for water and roots.
Excellent idea! Not to mention up potting also stunts growth. This method is the perfect solution to no interruption getting started untill putting out in the garden, by then well established!
That and your plants don't get their roots burned by being exposed to direct air......the plants think they got more room still. I'm glad you liked the video..... The results really do speak for themselves ❤️❤️❤️
I (thought I) just over-bought red cups so NOW I know what to do with them since I have plenty of tomato variety seeds. THANKS! (New sub because of this technique, the emphasis you placed on organic food, and the ease in which you made it.)
I plan to try this method, thank you for sharing. Another gardening channel suggested to sow the seeds in about half a solo cup full of soil so that you can add more soil to the cup as the plant grows (giving those hairs on the stem a place to root). Also how do you get the plant out of the Solo cup without damaging the roots if the root system has grown through the little holes in the bottom? Do you just cut the cup from around them?
I transplanted my babies into double cups a week ago, and they're already doing much better than last year. One change from your system? My cups wouldn't leave enough space between them, and I didn't want to wrap a bunch of tape, so I simply dropped a couple stones in the bottom to get the separation I needed. An added benefit is it creates a small reservoir for water to be used as needed. _(at least it seems like it will work like that)_
I'm new so this might be seem obvious to others but how do you get the tomatoes out of top cup without breaking the roots growing through the inner cup? Does it matter if they break and if it does what percentage do I need to make sure stay intact? And finally, where can I find your soil mixture formula?
You simply cut the cup from hole to hole on the bottom and the center piece falls away allowing roots to slide right out unharmed 👍....I believe the soil mix is in the video, but if it's not I will include it in the next video on Friday ❤️. I have a video on my channel on making the soil 👍
I do about the same thing but not with the cups. I have the smaller pots I use. Works wonders!! I build my own starter soil as well with no nutrients added so I can build the right nutrient plan for them. But my compost I use is from organic material so it has everything it needs for the seeds to get a great start!! Hose manure wood shavings that’s been composted for a year, vermiculite, perlite, and peat. Works great as a starter for about anything!! And yes, everyone needs to grow their own food!
It's true before I saw this video i planted 22 tomato plants and 3 of them were double cuped and are my biggest and healthiest and are my only double leaf ones so far. I started the seeds 3 weeks ago. Also they were the last ones to germinate. Thanks for this video!
My compliments Murdock ..... OUTSTANDING! First of all your tomato plants are absolutely beautiful and healthy looking. Stem thickness is awesome! Thanks for this video as I have been gardening for several years, but have always purchased plants from Bonnie, or big box stores and feed stores. Never grown my own plants from seed. Couple of questions: 1 Fertilizer: When, how much, and How do you apply. 2 Is that space blanket used and for seedlings and do you use a heating base? Tomball, Texas
Hi from England , I grow toms each year by saving seeds from store bought ones , ,choose an asorted bag full from your shop. Eat them and sow the tastiest ones
30 days? That's AMAZING. _Even the seed packs say to start them 8 weeks before moving outside. I don't have room in my home for the dozen plants I want to start._
I mean if I did them in 20+ oz cups eight weeks might be ok, but at 30-45 days old these babies are screaming for garden....... Them getting that big that quickly makes it possible to rotate in more plants cause I feel your pain....there is never enough room for all the plants I want hahahahaha 😜😂
All of my seeds germinated! My cups were shaped differently and difficult to offset so I used 2 paper clips on the rim of the outside cup….worked like a charm.
I have the same setup, grow lights, mylar reflective foil, indoor care. They get the same size in about 40 days, with 12 hours per day of light (two shifts). But I don't buse two cups. Enough light, heat, and liquid fertilizer is all they need.
These are only 30 days old, no liquid fertilizer, and have roots 10-12" long outside the growing cup......... You get that same root growth in a single cup? Where do they grow? I'd love to see the pic of a single cup with 12" roots coming out of it with 12" tall plants in 30 days please 👍😊
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 I grow in peat, s regular use of liquid fertilizer is a must. The roots of my tomatoes do not grow out of the cup, likely because there is no pressure to search for nutrients. Nor are they root bound.
Sorry I didn't catch that untill later......your lights for a vegetative cycle should be on for 16+ hours a day.....why are you running them 12 on 12 off with a seedling 🌱? The 12 hour light timing is for flowering....not seedlings. Your plants are thinking it's winter or fall 🤔
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 I have limited space under the grow lights, so I run two shifts of 12 hours, putting the seedlings in and out. I plant them outside end of April. They grow tall, nit not leggy. And have sturdy stalks. So the length of being under the light doesn't affect them badly. The same with eggplant and chili seedlings.
I used to grow tomaotes from seed in the old tin soup cans ... as the can rusted, the iron made the most amazing tomato plants. Now, the cans are aluminum or some blend ... so they don't rust. Question: where do you get these specific red solo cups? The style I find has horizontal/circumferance ridges, not vertical as yours show. Thank you,
I use clamshell containers to start my seeds and then pot up the tomatoes into Dutch Bros. largest cups . . . my tomatoes are about 2 feet tall. Blowing a fan on them to strengthen the stems more. Happy gardening!
Well, I'm only short on three basic things; space, time and money, and, since I like yogurt and save the plastic containers, I'm using what I have on hand. I like both plain and Greek style and, fortunately, they come in containers with two slightly different tapers, although they both hold 32 once's of product. In the slightly narrower ones I've drilled three 1/2" holes through their bottoms and then rolled a few rubber bands up their sides to the protruding ridge located about 1/2" below the top. In the other containers I've drilled two 1/4" holes in their sides - one an inch above the bottom and another about an inch and a half above that - all with Forstener bits, which are normally used for drilling flat bottom holes in wood but which also, by their design, do a fairly good job in drilling clean holes in these a bit flexible plastic containers.. (Just squeeze the sides in a bit to get a better bite for the bit cutting edges. The container bottoms are already braced well enough.) If I get similar results with the roots as you do I'll know visually if the holes in the bottoms are large enough or if I have to "Upsize" for the next batch. We'll see. Thanks for all the informative tips and, yes, what with the unexplained and remarkable cluster of (almost Biblical like) food disasters occurring throughout the world like deadly and/or debilitating diseases in poultry, cattle, grain crops, and fires in processing plants & et cetera, we do need to become more self sufficient. I would add seed starting, potting and planting soil mixes, compost and seed preservation to the list of things to keep an eye on for their availability.
Hello Murdock, I just found your channel. Very interesting content. I have about 300 plants of various varieties growing myself. I do mine a little different, but the end result is what matters. I'm going to try your double cup method except I am going to use peat pots for the inner cup. Just plant the entire pot in the ground, no disturbing the roots.
Question: could you use black cow as the compost in your soil mix? I already planted my tomatoes in seed trays but when I up pot them to solo cups I will try this method! Thank you!
Your method worked fantastically! My seedlings are large and healthy. Just waiting for the temp to warm up so that I can plant them in the garden. Best.
Great looking mater plants! I have found using a 18oz solo/solo style cup as the inner cup and using a 16oz solo/solo style cup for the outer cup gives the perfect space 👍
That's a really good idea. I may try that. Do the cups seal between each other? I very specifically bought the ones with ridges so I could offset them and keep that small space for oxygen to flow to the roots. I'm gonna go see if they have the fluted ones in smaller sizes. Thanks for that comment patriot Gardener 🌱
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 that small 2oz difference gives the perfect space between the cups. I cannot remember his name, but I’ll find it, it’s a guy here on YT was growing lettuce indoors in solo cups as an experiment and this is what he(or someone in his comment section) did, so I tried it and it worked really good!
Thank you for taking the time to explaining these Gardens tips . It so important to know that when give all these tips and skills to others. You ore helping them put a plate of food in someway on there table. That is such a Blessing that only God can pay back. MOST GARDENERS ONLY SHOW YOU THERE HARVEST. THEY DON'T GIVE SUCH KNOWLEDGE TO THRERE VIEWERS. Thank you again Sir. and may God continue to help you to this.
Perfect timing for me to see this video! Found you completely by accident and I've subscribed! Thanks so much for all this helpful stuff! Blessings to you and this awesome community you've built❣
Murdock, Thank you for this video! Worked out great for me last year. I am back to take notes for this year. Folks, this is great advice. take it all and watch how great your tomatoes grow. I had nine varieties last year. This year only the top three. January 15 is best time for me to start. Last year a month later. No fruit until late June.
Thank you kindly. Trust me when I say it was years of trial and errors. Lots of great folks helped me along the way. Old Alabama Gardener 🙏😇❤️ was just such a man I only know what I know because I tried and because other people were willing to help me and to share so I'm paying it forward. There's no Garden secret I won't tell hahaha. This season should be twice as good 👍💪😎
What happened this year was my pearlite had miracle grow in it and they never germinated. I started all over with the basics and soaked my seeds in rainwater for 3 hours. Then I planted 2 per cup. Best one stayed. Planted a bit too early (3/27) and lost a few. I had back ups and now everything is rocking and rolling. It is now (4/20) and I have many tiny tomatoes growing already. I have discovered the magic of using pure rain water only. I just installed my second 50 gallon rain barrel today. It really makes such a difference from tap water. I now have 12braised beds with all kinds of things but the 40 tomato plants are my passion. Thanks again for all your excellent tips and advice! I would recommend using the “Florida weave” with indeterminant tomatoes. They can easily grow out of control and this system has worked for me. I grew 9-10 plants up until late October last year. Year before there were things falling down and lost lots of good plants. (Also added about 10-14 alfalfa pellets at the very bottom of my planting hole. They take off when those hit.)
Just found your channel and subscribed. Checking out some of your older videos as well. Love your videos and tips. Thank you so much for your info. Looking forward to more of your content. God Bless you !this day and age is such vital info.
I use clakamus-coots soil recipe. Seed to harvest with water only. It's designed for cannabis which is also a heavy feeder so it works wonderful with tomatoes. Of course you can always top dress the mix every 90-120 days for years of production.
Plant one seed of each variety you want for the summer with cup in a cup. Take cuttings and put it in your favorite medium. Tomatoes are some of the easiest plants to clone.
Nobody should be scared of growing the first time. My first time I got 10 bags of garden soil and 4 bags of manure compost and rented a rototiller mixed it all into some of my lawn area and everything grew like crazy and tasted great. I even direct planted the tomato seeds and I had tons of the best tomatoes I’ve ever had. But now I live at 9300 feet altitude and want to grow again the best I can up here so I’ll take any advice I can. Thing’s can still grow up here during our short 4 month summer but growing healthy plants from the beginning gives them a better chance here.
I totally agree. My whole philosophy is teaching folks and showing them to everyone can do this no problem. Even folks who've never done it before with a couple bags of dirt just like you said and produce some of the best tasting and most nutritious fruit and vegetables they have ever eaten.
I don't need to set them on top of the lights for the heat. The ambient temperature inside the grow chamber is about 74 to 76°, which is perfect for germination
My garden last year was the best I ever had. It only measured 7'x29'. I love swapping garden tips with people I grew a tomato that was 3 tomatoes in one. It got so heavy that I had built it a hammock. A bad storm hit, and it fell out of the hammock, and peeled itself off the stem. I've been researching anyone's tips on here that I can find. I catch rain water , in 55 gallon plastic barrels. Omg, I'm think I'm OCD!! I grew English cucumbers. Out of 7 plants, I gave over 300 away for free.my longest one was 44". And I have pictures!
They used to be my favorites......until I found this. The soil blocks limited my ability to get them bigger without transplant. The cups keep them happy for well over a month allowing me to mature them up without their roots fighting it out. Soil blocks only gave me 2-3 weeks before transplant was a necessity. I also found that using individual cells gave each plant its own independence to get stronger. When they are all together if something affects one, it's probably gonna hit them all if together. The cups allowed for independent attention. Still love my soul blocks, but not so much making them lol 🤣
We have been doing the double cup method only we cut the bottom almost totally out of the soil cup. That way you don't destroy the root system when taking it out of the cup to put in the garden.
Great video and tips. 💕 I've already started some of my tomatoes as well. Mainly cherry tomatoes. But definitely anxious to get spring on the way and hands in the ground!
The "double cup method" is the reason for such growth? The expensive grow lights and Mylar from edge to edge couldn't have anything to do with that... could it?
How to you get the roots out when transplanting outdoors without ripping them? When all those roots gather at the bottom. Im just curious I like this method.
With the tomatoes, I take a very sharp pair of scissors and clip from hole to hole until the centerpiece pops out. I used to put them in a bucket of water for a couple of seconds and then pull them out. The water loosens all the roots and makes them drop limp so you can pull them through the cup. It's still caused a few roots to be broken. I found it just taking my time and sacrificing the center of the cup got all of my roots out in one piece. 👍
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 thank you for replying im going to try this method this year. And removing the plant this way is a good idea as well. Thank you for this video
Did you try this method with decompostable paper cups inside and plastic cups outside? Wouldn't the transplanting moment be easier? It's always hard to get the roots out safely from planters, being that the healthier plants always have the most roots poking out from underneath.
Last year did a pre-season seed starting attempt, didnt do well. This year trying again. I started 3 to see if its working well enough for my original seed start mid march. If it does go well Im all in. May report back if its a success.
HI! This is a great video. I will be doing this next time. I wasn't happy with my seedlings growth. It was the first time I grew my own seedlings. Can you please tell me how you water them. Do you water them from the bottom? When you fertilize do you 1/4 or 1/2 strength and put that in the bottom of the outside cup? Do you grow all of your veggies using the double cup method? Thanks so much.
Will be using the solo cup method starting next month. Would like to make your potting mix. I’m very rural and could use an idea on where you find the ingredients prices wouldn’t hurt my feelings either. I really appreciate your videos. Thanks
Lowe's or home Depot carry the products I use in my area. Check with local nurseries as well. They often will add special items if your buying through them and have it shipped....... Local nurseries are a gold mine of info and product availability. If you can't get the same, they can probably point you in the direction of some ingredients that will be close. Thanks for the compliment on the video 📸. Have fun in the garden! Look forward to hearing some success stories soon
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the roots coming out of the bottom. In theory this sounds great, but how do you get that top cup off without tearing those roots once they start to intertwine? I guess you could cut the bottom apart with scissors.
Maybe this has been covered already, but when you transplant and remove from the cup, how do you ensure the root system stays intact through the tiny holes, or does it matter if the roots get ripped off?
Very cool. We have another from Kenya I believe in the audience. It's very neat to get to grow with people all around the world. Thanks for checking out the channel 👍
You simply cut from hole to hole on the bottom of the cup and remove the center and all the Roots come right out 👍 no problem. I'm going to include that in the next video for transplanting them outdoors.
Everyone is panicking about damaging those "delicate" little roots that are coming out the bottom of the cup. Unlike some plants that really do have sensitive root systems, tomatoes are pretty robust. Pinch off the extra roots, remove the plant from the cup and transplant it. For a tomato, removing the extra roots is no more stressful than pinching off a leaf or a broken branch.
Sometimes I have trouble falling asleep. So I started planning my garden. Until one night, I come up with an idea, I had to get up and grab a pencil and paper, and write it down. It was 10:45 at night. I was so excited, that I almost called my Mom. I wasn't going to tell anyone, but here it is. Take an empty paper towel cardboard, and slice it in half.with paper tape, place carrot seeds 4inches appart.place the tape on the outside part of the roll along side of the edge where you cut it. Get some cheep sponges from the dollar store. Cut it in strips , and lay it inside the cardboard. Dig a long enough trench to lay it in the ground.cover with dirt. Water well enough to soak the sponges. You can grow more carrots this way if you have a small garden. I hope I didn't loose you. I lost my vision in my left eye. Sometimes I can't hit the right letters.
YOU came up with an idea to plant carrot seeds in paper towel rolls. Funny, because I heard someone on another channel recommending the same thing. No offense, but you didn't come up with that.
I heard a few people doing so but I wouldn't recommend it. Plants roots naturally grow underground and do not contain photosynthesis cells or chlorophyll.......they like it dark and so does the fungus talking, communicating and feeding you plant......light is deadly to the root fungus which is symbiosis for them both. UV-B light or radiation as we will call it stops root growth and nutrient uptake. You may see them but they aren't happy about it. Makes it so the little molecules that communicate between them not function properly......they don't like the light either. The intensity of the exposure and the length of time will determine the level of damage to roots and to plants development. Try growing one in just clear cups and one right next to it in two solid cups......with only one try I think you will see the difference. Post it up if you do ❤️
That's very cool. What part of the UK are you in. I'm getting a map together so I can put pins on the wall from all the subscribers. It is blowing me away how supportive and wonderful everyone is. I have little pins for all over the world now ❤️
You don't have to be at all. You can do this just as easy as I can. That's why I try to keep the teaching methods very simple. If I had my dream come true, all of my gardeners would end up growing bigger tomatoes than I ever could. Give it a try I bet you will surprise yourself with this new method. 💪 😎
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472I think I just started some of my tomatoes too early. I started some beefsteak seeds 6 weeks before my last frost date. They looked great for awhile, but now they're kind of spindly. It's like not much new growth is happening, the stems are just getting longer. Hopefully they'll be fine when I get them in the ground soon.
Long time gardener, just stumbled upon your video. Excellent idea, think I'll test it out. Nice bunch of roots growing out of the holes. When you transplant into your outdoor garden area to you cut the cup away from the roots so you don't damage them? Or do you just help the plant out of the cup and not worry about the roots? Thanks
You should really enjoy the trial run........ I've been very impressed. The video that follows this one on how to transplant shows a few tricks including how I get those awesome roots out safe and sound. Let me know how your batch does 👍
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If you ain't doin it this way you are running behind. I had plants that I busted every branch except a side leaf. It grew into a jungle.
Used Murdock's method last year and grew the most incredible seedlings! It really works. I grew 15 different varieties and they all transplanted and took off with vigor. Saved all my red cups and will definitely repeat the process this year!! I used small stones in the bottom cup for separation. Thanks Murdock!!
Your very welcome 🤗
I bet this year goes even better! ❤️ 🙏 😇.
Thank you for that kind compliment. ❤️
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 I can wait to try
I see that the second cup gives roots more space, but is that just another 1/2 to 1"? so if the seeds come out of the bottom of the first cup, do you cut the cup to get the plant out?
but what about the humidity dome. is that not necessary? Solo cups definitely beat out $40-70 starter kits.
Put a marble or bottle cap in bottom cup to keep that small air space between the cups.
I use clean gravel, it works great.
I put maradi grad bead in bottom of cup!!!😅
@@kimberlylee1329 Did you earn the beads the old fashioned way???
I had to earn beads. I have lost all my marbles. 🤔
Good idea
Hey Murdock, just came across this video and had to laugh when you said about digging up some lawn to grow some stuff... last year as I was chopping out another 10' of backyard lawn my neighbor leaned out her window and asked me if I was expanding my garden again... I said
ABSOLUTELY- and I told her because
"You can't eat grass"..
New Sub & thanks for the hints with the Solo cups.
Janotes
You can eat grass. My family for instance for a few years put baby bummer lambs into a calf hut. We bottle fed it for a month or two. I can’t remember but when the weather was warm we put the lamb onto grass. We had four lambs eating the grass down. We had to move them ever few days so the grass wasn’t over grazed.
I really think way too many people focus on growing things like plants and never consider that could grow lambs or chickens on their lawn.
Also you need a calf hut so when the sprinklers turn on at night they can go into the hut and stay dry.
Thank you, Murdock! New subscriber here. I had my first garden many years ago. We had a drought that year. But my favorite memory of it is when a shower finally came, (only one, not enough to save the garden) my husband and I were in the garden, and dirty.... quickly muddy. We ran, holding hands and laughing, back to the house. Then, a couple of years later, I tried tomato gardening in a container. Not having access to RUclips, or other gardeners, another fail. Last year, with the help of RUclips and many gardeners, I made a container garden, and my husband built me a raised garden bed. Finally, at 66 I am learning. We had a small harvest. This is year 2! Spring garden is planted, but I will be using your two cup method for my tomatoes. I learn something new every year. Thank you for creating these videos! God bless you, your family, and all gardeners and farmers. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so very much for those kind words. It make me feel awesome to know it's helping folks. I got tired of seeing people charging for their advice or just trying to sell junk to people.
Folks need help right now getting growing. We as brothers and sisters in this world are to care for each other.....not charge folks for info.
Good knowledge especially from the garden should be free flowing and full of ideas.
I always tell folks that father started with a garden for a reason.....it was the best place for his children to grow ❤️
I'm super excited to hear about your results as the year progresses.
I wish you and the hubby the happiest and most blessed garden season ever!
I hope you grow more than you know what to do with ❤️ 😇🙏
Bless your garden! I hope it brings you much joy.
I’ve never gardened before I’m going to try. It’s June is it too late to grow anything? You’ve inspired me❤@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472
The presentation style, the info, the easy listening voice, the focus on basics, I must say this was a great watch.
Sage advice at the end. Excellent 😊🙋
I appreciate that!
Just wanted to say that I grew 40 tomato plants starting in early March this year. whole set up worked really well for me. I will do the same next year. Thank you! Ps, I almost never turned the lights out. Like Alaskan Summer.
Been gardening for YEARS, and there always seems to be more to learn! Thanks for these brilliant tips! I can't believe how much root structure develops in a mere 30 days. This is DEFINITELY going to jump-start this year's crop!
Without seeing this....just started a double cup system on my tomatoes also. The inner cup is peat cup worh with the bottom cut off. Outer cup Solo with 3 weep holes about 3/16 diameter. That way when the plant is big enough, just pull out the peat cut and transplant into ground or container ...also allows the root release easily . Great video. ☝️
Thank you
You are a great teacher.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you for those kind words.
I got lots more to teach ❤️
Every year will be my best year ever. I got a soil test kit and all 3 N P K were deficient. Which is amazing to me since I put cow manure in my bed every spring and put leaves, about 5 inches thick during the fall. In December I mix it all up. And I'm deficient. Smdh. So, got some amendments and some perlite and we'll see how I do this year.... my best year yet!
That's right! It's gonna be an epic year in the garden.
Even with heavy composting, mulching and every other natural thing I can think of, I still have to add amendments as I go along even though they're organic. Plants eat a lot lol 😂
If you haven't already tied them, you should try some Cherokee Purple Tomatoes. They are super sweet and delicious. Your method worked to perfection for me last year, so I have more grow lights now and have expanded. I also have a biochar kiln and have added charged biochar to over half of my garden boxes. It seems to work as well as I had hoped. Thank You!!!
That is so awesome 😎😎😎
I absolutely love reading the comments from the Patriot gardeners who are just rocking it.
I am more than happy to hear about your success. I took am expanding.
Future videos are going to include high intensity discharge lighting, grow tents and a very special episode that I'm about to post up with the giant red Solo cup method 😱😳 lol 🤣
I'm hearing all sorts of wonderful stories of folks getting the biggest and strongest plants they have ever started....... It's a win win for me. I want to see you all make it and be happy and well fed...... It's working!
Thank you for your very kind comment. I've got much more in store in the future for you kids. Going to be a great year to grow 🌱❤️😇
I do actually have a few Cherokee purple, they must be very good because I have to fight the mockingbird that lives in my neighborhood for them hahahahaha 😜😂
I did find they were a bit touchy on the watering side even for a tomato 🍅......but well worth the fuss. The fruits look very neat as well .
This is brilliant! I usually end up with spindly tomato starts and their development is slow until it is warm enough to plant out.
I love that Dr. Earths 2-2-2… great stuff for bagged fert/pot soil.
Love the cup in cup method. I usually use a clear cup on the inside so I can watch the roots grow
terrible ideal roots hate light duhhhhhh
@@FLY2KO , maybe, but if the clear cup sits inside "dark" cup, then it doesn't matter.
@@FLY2KOClear cup on the INside
I have used the double cup method for a number of years. Am trying a system based on a clear outer cup so I can keep an eye on how much liquid has drained out of the inner. Your videos open a lot of doors regarding soil specs but here in New Zealand the selection is a bit limited so lots of compost. Thanks. Also like the video about Strawberries which can be very expensive in the stores.
Thank you...let me know how the clear outer cup does.....I'm curious if the light will shock them 🤔
That is a great idea 💡 for monitoring it well....even for root development. Thank you for that response ❤️
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472Thanks. Yes I only intended growjng until the roots showed then re-potting them.
So, you don't put water in the bottom cup ,,you just water from the top?? right? thanks ,love from south alabama
@@joqlady888 No - water as usual but watch until there is just a small amount in the bottom so if they need it there is a bit there for them.
This method is opposite. Use the clear cup on the inside Trust me Cannabis grower for 15yrs
I've never grown anything from seed. This video was very informative and you gave me the confidence that I needed. I'm looking to possibly having the best tomatoes in the neighborhood. Thank you so much!
You are very welcome I look forward to hearing about some giants!
Wow I was worried about finding trays to catch the water when I feed my indoor plants! This two cup method is a life saver! Thank you!
Same. This is so much easier and cheaper.
New to this double cup idea and was wondering about the roots when you remove the plants to place them into the garden.
someone else suggested using compostable (peat/etc) pots as the inner cup, that way you can bury the cup without having to disturb the roots.
I put composted sheep manure in a rain barrel and water my tomato plants and get very good results every year.
I feed mine the Fish Emulsion.They Love it!!
Great video!
Tip:
When setting the seedlings in your garden bed, Lay your long plants horizontally in the ground, bury the stem circa 3 inches deep, with just the last 3rd of the crown sticking up, that will create a huge root system.
The entire buried portion of the stem will send out roots; we routinely get 9 foot tall plants that way.
Just be sure the not hit the horizontal stem when driving in stakes,
That is a really good idea. I have done horizontal planning before with some really long leggy plants I got at home depot. Did a really great job. If you go watch the transplant video I do I actually did one even better. I planted the plant 1/3 underground like we normally would do so we get those big Roots but when it grew the first set of suckers that came off I trained them down to the ground and then buried them creating two other side root masses for the plant........that baby got 12' tall an about seven feet wide hahahahaha..... I totally underestimated what bearing those runners was going to do.
Thank you for that good point. It is always about those roots and getting that big root mass for those tomato plants. The more Roots the bigger the plant and more fruit it will produce. Happy gardening Patriot ❤️
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Great idea, I never thought of getting exponential growth by optimization of suckers that way! Will be trying it this season.
i love starting in cups, if i time things wrong, they have space to grow and im planting outside a nice sized plant. also i dont get hundreds of seedlings i dont need., i double cuped cause im in a dry climate and so they dont dry out while i harden them off outside. i didnt realize to let them root outside first cup!! You can put a little stone, pebble, in bottom of cup then it keeps space for water and roots.
Excellent idea!
Not to mention up potting also stunts growth.
This method is the perfect solution to no interruption getting started untill putting out in the garden, by then well established!
That and your plants don't get their roots burned by being exposed to direct air......the plants think they got more room still. I'm glad you liked the video..... The results really do speak for themselves ❤️❤️❤️
I (thought I) just over-bought red cups so NOW I know what to do with them since I have plenty of tomato variety seeds. THANKS! (New sub because of this technique, the emphasis you placed on organic food, and the ease in which you made it.)
I cut the bottoms out of the cup, then plant it directly in the ground or pots. It doesn't disturb the roots at all. Love this method....
Thank you!
I plan to try this method, thank you for sharing. Another gardening channel suggested to sow the seeds in about half a solo cup full of soil so that you can add more soil to the cup as the plant grows (giving those hairs on the stem a place to root). Also how do you get the plant out of the Solo cup without damaging the roots if the root system has grown through the little holes in the bottom? Do you just cut the cup from around them?
If you go check out the transplant video I did, you get to see the top secret way to get those roots out
I transplanted my babies into double cups a week ago, and they're already doing much better than last year. One change from your system? My cups wouldn't leave enough space between them, and I didn't want to wrap a bunch of tape, so I simply dropped a couple stones in the bottom to get the separation I needed. An added benefit is it creates a small reservoir for water to be used as needed. _(at least it seems like it will work like that)_
I do this for just about every seed start. Works really well for peppers too!
Thank you for inspiring me
God bless you ♡
I'm new so this might be seem obvious to others but how do you get the tomatoes out of top cup without breaking the roots growing through the inner cup? Does it matter if they break and if it does what percentage do I need to make sure stay intact? And finally, where can I find your soil mixture formula?
You simply cut the cup from hole to hole on the bottom and the center piece falls away allowing roots to slide right out unharmed 👍....I believe the soil mix is in the video, but if it's not I will include it in the next video on Friday ❤️.
I have a video on my channel on making the soil 👍
Which zone are you in? Did I miss that?
I do about the same thing but not with the cups. I have the smaller pots I use. Works wonders!! I build my own starter soil as well with no nutrients added so I can build the right nutrient plan for them. But my compost I use is from organic material so it has everything it needs for the seeds to get a great start!! Hose manure wood shavings that’s been composted for a year, vermiculite, perlite, and peat. Works great as a starter for about anything!! And yes, everyone needs to grow their own food!
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 are you warming those cups (and how?) to speed germination?
@@MichaelDiSalvoSATandACTTutor no need...the temp in the grow room is 75 degrees 💪😎
It's true before I saw this video i planted 22 tomato plants and 3 of them were double cuped and are my biggest and healthiest and are my only double leaf ones so far. I started the seeds 3 weeks ago. Also they were the last ones to germinate. Thanks for this video!
My compliments Murdock ..... OUTSTANDING! First of all your tomato plants are absolutely beautiful and healthy looking. Stem thickness is awesome! Thanks for this video as I have been gardening for several years, but have always purchased plants from Bonnie, or big box stores and feed stores. Never grown my own plants from seed.
Couple of questions: 1 Fertilizer: When, how much, and How do you apply. 2 Is that space blanket used and for seedlings and do you use a heating base?
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Hi from England , I grow toms each year by saving seeds from store bought ones , ,choose an asorted bag full from your shop. Eat them and sow the tastiest ones
30 days? That's AMAZING.
_Even the seed packs say to start them 8 weeks before moving outside. I don't have room in my home for the dozen plants I want to start._
I mean if I did them in 20+ oz cups eight weeks might be ok, but at 30-45 days old these babies are screaming for garden....... Them getting that big that quickly makes it possible to rotate in more plants cause I feel your pain....there is never enough room for all the plants I want hahahahaha 😜😂
I'm defo bonna use this method, thanks for that lesson.
Your tomatoes look so healthy! Thanks for sharing your method.
Thank you very much ❤️
I'm glad you enjoyed. It's a great trick and really gives you that extra plant and root growth.
Thanks for checking it out.
All of my seeds germinated! My cups were shaped differently and difficult to offset so I used 2 paper clips on the rim of the outside cup….worked like a charm.
Great tip! I'm gonna give that a try.....it is kinda annoying when they slip in hahahahaha 🤣.
Very good thinking. ❤️
I have the same setup, grow lights, mylar reflective foil, indoor care. They get the same size in about 40 days, with 12 hours per day of light (two shifts). But I don't buse two cups. Enough light, heat, and liquid fertilizer is all they need.
These are only 30 days old, no liquid fertilizer, and have roots 10-12" long outside the growing cup......... You get that same root growth in a single cup? Where do they grow? I'd love to see the pic of a single cup with 12" roots coming out of it with 12" tall plants in 30 days please 👍😊
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 I grow in peat, s regular use of liquid fertilizer is a must. The roots of my tomatoes do not grow out of the cup, likely because there is no pressure to search for nutrients. Nor are they root bound.
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 When you transplant, how do you extract the plant without breaking the roots hanging outside the cup?
Sorry I didn't catch that untill later......your lights for a vegetative cycle should be on for 16+ hours a day.....why are you running them 12 on 12 off with a seedling 🌱?
The 12 hour light timing is for flowering....not seedlings.
Your plants are thinking it's winter or fall 🤔
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 I have limited space under the grow lights, so I run two shifts of 12 hours, putting the seedlings in and out. I plant them outside end of April. They grow tall, nit not leggy. And have sturdy stalks. So the length of being under the light doesn't affect them badly. The same with eggplant and chili seedlings.
I've been using this double cup system for about 4 years now and it works really well.
I used to grow tomaotes from seed in the old tin soup cans ... as the can rusted, the iron made the most amazing tomato plants. Now, the cans are aluminum or some blend ... so they don't rust. Question: where do you get these specific red solo cups? The style I find has horizontal/circumferance ridges, not vertical as yours show. Thank you,
I have thrown used up Brillo pads that have turned to rust into my tomato plant containers. Thought it might help.
I use clamshell containers to start my seeds and then pot up the tomatoes into Dutch Bros. largest cups . . . my tomatoes are about 2 feet tall. Blowing a fan on them to strengthen the stems more. Happy gardening!
Have you ever supercroped them??? 🤔 💪 😎
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 I don't know the "supercrpped" term. What do you mean?
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Well, I'm only short on three basic things; space, time and money, and, since I like yogurt and save the plastic containers, I'm using what I have on hand. I like both plain and Greek style and, fortunately, they come in containers with two slightly different tapers, although they both hold 32 once's of product. In the slightly narrower ones I've drilled three 1/2" holes through their bottoms and then rolled a few rubber bands up their sides to the protruding ridge located about 1/2" below the top. In the other containers I've drilled two 1/4" holes in their sides - one an inch above the bottom and another about an inch and a half above that - all with Forstener bits, which are normally used for drilling flat bottom holes in wood but which also, by their design, do a fairly good job in drilling clean holes in these a bit flexible plastic containers.. (Just squeeze the sides in a bit to get a better bite for the bit cutting edges. The container bottoms are already braced well enough.) If I get similar results with the roots as you do I'll know visually if the holes in the bottoms are large enough or if I have to "Upsize" for the next batch. We'll see. Thanks for all the informative tips and, yes, what with the unexplained and remarkable cluster of (almost Biblical like) food disasters occurring throughout the world like deadly and/or debilitating diseases in poultry, cattle, grain crops, and fires in processing plants & et cetera, we do need to become more self sufficient. I would add seed starting, potting and planting soil mixes, compost and seed preservation to the list of things to keep an eye on for their availability.
Great, Murdock. Really appreciated it! Thanks a lot 😘
Anytime kiddo ❤️
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Awesome! I'm going to try the double cup system. I will keep you updated on my progress! Thanks for sharing 🌱✨️
This method is working very well for my tomato plants. Just like you have in the video. Thanks.
Hello Murdock, I just found your channel. Very interesting content. I have about 300 plants of various varieties growing myself. I do mine a little different, but the end result is what matters. I'm going to try your double cup method except I am going to use peat pots for the inner cup. Just plant the entire pot in the ground, no disturbing the roots.
I've found peat pots tend to suck moisture away from the actual plant.
Great video Murdock I did this last year and they were making do the tomatoes,need to be on heat mats
They don't have to as long as you're grow space is about 75°
Question: could you use black cow as the compost in your soil mix? I already planted my tomatoes in seed trays but when I up pot them to solo cups I will try this method! Thank you!
Your method worked fantastically! My seedlings are large and healthy. Just waiting for the temp to warm up so that I can plant them in the garden. Best.
Great looking mater plants! I have found using a 18oz solo/solo style cup as the inner cup and using a 16oz solo/solo style cup for the outer cup gives the perfect space 👍
That's a really good idea. I may try that. Do the cups seal between each other? I very specifically bought the ones with ridges so I could offset them and keep that small space for oxygen to flow to the roots.
I'm gonna go see if they have the fluted ones in smaller sizes.
Thanks for that comment patriot Gardener 🌱
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 that small 2oz difference gives the perfect space between the cups. I cannot remember his name, but I’ll find it, it’s a guy here on YT was growing lettuce indoors in solo cups as an experiment and this is what he(or someone in his comment section) did, so I tried it and it worked really good!
Excuse my ignorance but how do you get the plant out of the cup with root damage?🇬🇧
That's what I'm wondering also..@@albertbell7120
Good video I'm getting a Jeff Goldblum vibe from you.😊
Thank you for taking the time to explaining these Gardens tips .
It so important to know that when give all these tips and skills to others.
You ore helping them put a plate of food in someway on there table.
That is such a Blessing that only God can pay back.
MOST GARDENERS ONLY SHOW YOU THERE HARVEST.
THEY DON'T GIVE SUCH KNOWLEDGE TO THRERE VIEWERS.
Thank you again Sir.
and may God continue to help you to this.
Thank you! God bless you and your family!!!
Perfect timing for me to see this video! Found you completely by accident and I've subscribed! Thanks so much for all this helpful stuff! Blessings to you and this awesome community you've built❣
Murdock,
Thank you for this video! Worked out great for me last year. I am back to take notes for this year. Folks, this is great advice. take it all and watch how great your tomatoes grow. I had nine varieties last year. This year only the top three. January 15 is best time for me to start. Last year a month later. No fruit until late June.
Thank you kindly.
Trust me when I say it was years of trial and errors.
Lots of great folks helped me along the way. Old Alabama Gardener 🙏😇❤️ was just such a man
I only know what I know because I tried and because other people were willing to help me and to share so I'm paying it forward. There's no Garden secret I won't tell hahaha. This season should be twice as good 👍💪😎
What happened this year was my pearlite had miracle grow in it and they never germinated. I started all over with the basics and soaked my seeds in rainwater for 3 hours. Then I planted 2 per cup. Best one stayed. Planted a bit too early (3/27) and lost a few. I had back ups and now everything is rocking and rolling. It is now (4/20) and I have many tiny tomatoes growing already. I have discovered the magic of using pure rain water only. I just installed my second 50 gallon rain barrel today. It really makes such a difference from tap water. I now have 12braised beds with all kinds of things but the 40 tomato plants are my passion. Thanks again for all your excellent tips and advice! I would recommend using the “Florida weave” with indeterminant tomatoes. They can easily grow out of control and this system has worked for me. I grew 9-10 plants up until late October last year. Year before there were things falling down and lost lots of good plants. (Also added about 10-14 alfalfa pellets at the very bottom of my planting hole. They take off when those hit.)
Just found your channel and subscribed. Checking out some of your older videos as well. Love your videos and tips. Thank you so much for your info. Looking forward to more of your content. God Bless you !this day and age is such vital info.
First time here... "Murdoch out"..okay now I am subscribing. Good info too...
I use clakamus-coots soil recipe. Seed to harvest with water only. It's designed for cannabis which is also a heavy feeder so it works wonderful with tomatoes. Of course you can always top dress the mix every 90-120 days for years of production.
Thanks for the advice.
Plant one seed of each variety you want for the summer with cup in a cup.
Take cuttings and put it in your favorite medium. Tomatoes are some of the easiest plants to clone.
Brilliant! Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure!
Murdock, do you mix in your Dr Earth fertilizer with the soil or top dress them at a couple weeks?
Nobody should be scared of growing the first time. My first time I got 10 bags of garden soil and 4 bags of manure compost and rented a rototiller mixed it all into some of my lawn area and everything grew like crazy and tasted great. I even direct planted the tomato seeds and I had tons of the best tomatoes I’ve ever had. But now I live at 9300 feet altitude and want to grow again the best I can up here so I’ll take any advice I can. Thing’s can still grow up here during our short 4 month summer but growing healthy plants from the beginning gives them a better chance here.
I totally agree. My whole philosophy is teaching folks and showing them to everyone can do this no problem. Even folks who've never done it before with a couple bags of dirt just like you said and produce some of the best tasting and most nutritious fruit and vegetables they have ever eaten.
So you water from the top? Do you put them on the grow lights and the heat pad?
Amazing method I love it
I don't need to set them on top of the lights for the heat. The ambient temperature inside the grow chamber is about 74 to 76°, which is perfect for germination
I plan to use this method to grow this year.I was very Lucky last year with just a small garden.I'm totally hooked!
My garden last year was the best I ever had. It only measured 7'x29'.
I love swapping garden tips with people
I grew a tomato that was 3 tomatoes in one.
It got so heavy that I had built it a hammock.
A bad storm hit, and it fell out of the hammock, and peeled itself off the stem.
I've been researching anyone's tips on here that I can find.
I catch rain water , in 55 gallon plastic barrels.
Omg, I'm think I'm OCD!!
I grew English cucumbers. Out of 7 plants, I gave over 300 away for free.my longest one was 44".
And I have pictures!
If your tomatoes get heavy, buy tomato J-hook to keep them from fall off the stem. I grew 2 lb tomorrow last year and this did the trick.
Amen brother. Great information 🙏
Beautiful plants! Question; how do you get the plants out of the cup without destroying the roots?
I was wondering the same thing
Yes 🤔
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Soil blocks are a similar method. Great ideas by the way🎉
They used to be my favorites......until I found this.
The soil blocks limited my ability to get them bigger without transplant. The cups keep them happy for well over a month allowing me to mature them up without their roots fighting it out.
Soil blocks only gave me 2-3 weeks before transplant was a necessity.
I also found that using individual cells gave each plant its own independence to get stronger.
When they are all together if something affects one, it's probably gonna hit them all if together. The cups allowed for independent attention.
Still love my soul blocks, but not so much making them lol 🤣
Thank you for showing what happens with the double cup system. I am going to try this with my tomatoes and peppers. Thanks for sharing your wisdom!
We have been doing the double cup method only we cut the bottom almost totally out of the soil cup. That way you don't destroy the root system when taking it out of the cup to put in the garden.
How do you keep the soil in?
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Great video and tips. 💕 I've already started some of my tomatoes as well. Mainly cherry tomatoes. But definitely anxious to get spring on the way and hands in the ground!
Thank you for sharing! I can’t wait to try this! 😄
The "double cup method" is the reason for such growth?
The expensive grow lights and Mylar from edge to edge couldn't have anything to do with that... could it?
My thoughts exactly 😂
Such a simple method for some giant starters. Thx for sharing
How to you get the roots out when transplanting outdoors without ripping them? When all those roots gather at the bottom. Im just curious I like this method.
I’m wondering the same thing
With the tomatoes, I take a very sharp pair of scissors and clip from hole to hole until the centerpiece pops out.
I used to put them in a bucket of water for a couple of seconds and then pull them out. The water loosens all the roots and makes them drop limp so you can pull them through the cup. It's still caused a few roots to be broken. I found it just taking my time and sacrificing the center of the cup got all of my roots out in one piece. 👍
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 thank you for replying im going to try this method this year. And removing the plant this way is a good idea as well. Thank you for this video
I don't even about the roots.
Nice method, hope you can recycle all that plastic
Thank you, repotting my seedlings, very useful tips.
Did you try this method with decompostable paper cups inside and plastic cups outside? Wouldn't the transplanting moment be easier? It's always hard to get the roots out safely from planters, being that the healthier plants always have the most roots poking out from underneath.
Last year did a pre-season seed starting attempt, didnt do well. This year trying again. I started 3 to see if its working well enough for my original seed start mid march. If it does go well Im all in. May report back if its a success.
HI! This is a great video. I will be doing this next time. I wasn't happy with my seedlings growth. It was the first time I grew my own seedlings. Can you please tell me how you water them. Do you water them from the bottom? When you fertilize do you 1/4 or 1/2 strength and put that in the bottom of the outside cup? Do you grow all of your veggies using the double cup method? Thanks so much.
Great video! I'm going to give this a shot this year 😀
What size cups are these 12 oz or 16 oz? thanks
12 oz although you could super size and go 16 lol 😂
Will be using the solo cup method starting next month. Would like to make your potting mix. I’m very rural and could use an idea on where you find the ingredients prices wouldn’t hurt my feelings either.
I really appreciate your videos. Thanks
Lowe's or home Depot carry the products I use in my area. Check with local nurseries as well. They often will add special items if your buying through them and have it shipped....... Local nurseries are a gold mine of info and product availability.
If you can't get the same, they can probably point you in the direction of some ingredients that will be close.
Thanks for the compliment on the video 📸. Have fun in the garden! Look forward to hearing some success stories soon
Do you cut the inside cup off, or rip the roots off when planting?
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the roots coming out of the bottom. In theory this sounds great, but how do you get that top cup off without tearing those roots once they start to intertwine? I guess you could cut the bottom apart with scissors.
He cuts it.
Thanks for teaching us
Anytime.....you guys teach me every day as well ❤️
Maybe this has been covered already, but when you transplant and remove from the cup, how do you ensure the root system stays intact through the tiny holes, or does it matter if the roots get ripped off?
My thoughts exactly. Thank you.
Good question.
Take some of the bottom leaves off and plant it deep, they will grow plenty of roots.
He made a video on how to transplant :)
Gimmick
Hello Murdock i've just subscribed to your channel after finding it very interesting. Am in Uganda (Africa) thank you for the interesting knowledge.
Very cool. We have another from Kenya I believe in the audience.
It's very neat to get to grow with people all around the world.
Thanks for checking out the channel 👍
So, what do you do about all the extra roots when you plant it outside?
You simply cut from hole to hole on the bottom of the cup and remove the center and all the Roots come right out 👍 no problem.
I'm going to include that in the next video for transplanting them outdoors.
Nice tomato!
Thank you for the motivation early morning..
May god bless you too
Everyone is panicking about damaging those "delicate" little roots that are coming out the bottom of the cup. Unlike some plants that really do have sensitive root systems, tomatoes are pretty robust. Pinch off the extra roots, remove the plant from the cup and transplant it. For a tomato, removing the extra roots is no more stressful than pinching off a leaf or a broken branch.
Oh it's so easy there is no need to damage those beautiful roots....check it out
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So why not let it get root bound...just a waste
valuable info, i'll be doing this next month, with tomatoes and peppers.
Going to try this double cup method. Thanks!
Hope you like it!
Sometimes I have trouble falling asleep. So I started planning my garden.
Until one night, I come up with an idea, I had to get up and grab a pencil and paper, and write it down. It was 10:45 at night. I was so excited, that I almost called my Mom.
I wasn't going to tell anyone, but here it is.
Take an empty paper towel cardboard, and slice it in half.with paper tape, place carrot seeds 4inches appart.place the tape on the outside part of the roll along side of the edge where you cut it.
Get some cheep sponges from the dollar store. Cut it in strips , and lay it inside the cardboard. Dig a long enough trench to lay it in the ground.cover with dirt. Water well enough to soak the sponges.
You can grow more carrots this way if you have a small garden.
I hope I didn't loose you. I lost my vision in my left eye. Sometimes I can't hit the right letters.
YOU came up with an idea to plant carrot seeds in paper towel rolls. Funny, because I heard someone on another channel recommending the same thing. No offense, but you didn't come up with that.
I love Kellogg potting mix.
Something I learned was to use CLEAR plastic cups. The light stimulates root growth. You end up with a great root system.
I heard a few people doing so but I wouldn't recommend it.
Plants roots naturally grow underground and do not contain photosynthesis cells or chlorophyll.......they like it dark and so does the fungus talking, communicating and feeding you plant......light is deadly to the root fungus which is symbiosis for them both.
UV-B light or radiation as we will call it stops root growth and nutrient uptake. You may see them but they aren't happy about it.
Makes it so the little molecules that communicate between them not function properly......they don't like the light either.
The intensity of the exposure and the length of time will determine the level of damage to roots and to plants development.
Try growing one in just clear cups and one right next to it in two solid cups......with only one try I think you will see the difference.
Post it up if you do ❤️
Is this something you have done prior? Two clear cups or one?
hi MM just found your channel, i love growing tomatoes in my greenhouse cant wait to see all your videos , katie wales uk .❤👍
That's very cool. What part of the UK are you in. I'm getting a map together so I can put pins on the wall from all the subscribers. It is blowing me away how supportive and wonderful everyone is. I have little pins for all over the world now ❤️
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472 hi yes live in a place called gwent, South wales .
Nice.
Outstanding will try tomorrow. Thank you!
Nice tomato plants. I'm super jealous right now.
You don't have to be at all. You can do this just as easy as I can. That's why I try to keep the teaching methods very simple. If I had my dream come true, all of my gardeners would end up growing bigger tomatoes than I ever could. Give it a try I bet you will surprise yourself with this new method. 💪 😎
@@murdocksmadnesspatriotgard5472I think I just started some of my tomatoes too early. I started some beefsteak seeds 6 weeks before my last frost date. They looked great for awhile, but now they're kind of spindly. It's like not much new growth is happening, the stems are just getting longer. Hopefully they'll be fine when I get them in the ground soon.
Your channel just popped up on my feed. Great video. I will check out your other videos.
Long time gardener, just stumbled upon your video. Excellent idea, think I'll test it out. Nice bunch of roots growing out of the holes. When you transplant into your outdoor garden area to you cut the cup away from the roots so you don't damage them? Or do you just help the plant out of the cup and not worry about the roots? Thanks
You should really enjoy the trial run........ I've been very impressed.
The video that follows this one on how to transplant shows a few tricks including how I get those awesome roots out safe and sound. Let me know how your batch does 👍