I find myself mostly in agreement with you. Altough I doubt to which extent. what are those essentials? Some church fathers vastly disagree with each other. There is a big difference between the late st Augustine and st Gregory of Nyssa.
Jonah, where does this language of “walking within the Great Tradition” come from? Do you see it in the Fathers? Of course, the EO have quite a bit to say about acquiring the Mind of the Church that you recognize manifesting in the Fathers, but they believe that Mind is unique to the EO. I’d imagine the RCC feel the same way. “Walking within the Great Tradition” seems to lend itself well to the Branch Theory of the Church, but I wonder how historical the phrase or perspective may be?
It seems to be almost an implicit one early on rather than explicit. I think the Fathers spoke with real anticipation and understanding that their words were meant to be in harmony with Scripture and those around them - especially those in notable positions of ecclesiastical authority. I find this attitude in the Anglican divines too. Walking in the Great Tradition, though maybe not named as outright in the early fathers was certainly there.
How can we be Anglican and believe the mind of the church? What about sola fide or sola scriptural? I want to see these ideas in the Anglican Divines. I want to learn more. I thought Anglicans believe the Protestant doctrines.
You'd also have to demonstrate in what sense the metaphor is overextended. The Church is composed of many believers who, through reading Scripture in the Holy Spirit and with respect for the boundaries of established Orthodoxy, give to us a body of theology that we can depend on
I find myself mostly in agreement with you. Altough I doubt to which extent. what are those essentials? Some church fathers vastly disagree with each other. There is a big difference between the late st Augustine and st Gregory of Nyssa.
Jonah would you do a video on charismatic gifts? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts
Wonderful idea.
Jonah, where does this language of “walking within the Great Tradition” come from? Do you see it in the Fathers? Of course, the EO have quite a bit to say about acquiring the Mind of the Church that you recognize manifesting in the Fathers, but they believe that Mind is unique to the EO. I’d imagine the RCC feel the same way. “Walking within the Great Tradition” seems to lend itself well to the Branch Theory of the Church, but I wonder how historical the phrase or perspective may be?
It seems to be almost an implicit one early on rather than explicit. I think the Fathers spoke with real anticipation and understanding that their words were meant to be in harmony with Scripture and those around them - especially those in notable positions of ecclesiastical authority. I find this attitude in the Anglican divines too. Walking in the Great Tradition, though maybe not named as outright in the early fathers was certainly there.
@@merecatholicity I appreciate the response!
How can we be Anglican and believe the mind of the church? What about sola fide or sola scriptural? I want to see these ideas in the Anglican Divines. I want to learn more. I thought Anglicans believe the Protestant doctrines.
Depending on how both doctrines are articulated, they are perfectly within the Great Tradition.
There is no such thing as the mind of the church. That’s an overextended metaphor of a biological system; not an institutional one, ie synthetic.
The mind is not a biological system
You'd also have to demonstrate in what sense the metaphor is overextended. The Church is composed of many believers who, through reading Scripture in the Holy Spirit and with respect for the boundaries of established Orthodoxy, give to us a body of theology that we can depend on
The mind of the Church disagrees.