The speed and port configuration makes no sense to me. If you can saturate a 10Gb NIC with a x1 slot, make the design simple and make all NVMe bays x2, like the enterprise market is moving towards. It makes no sense to release an all-flash NAS product like this and make a hodge-podge of PCIe speeds and link sizes. Just split the x8 and 2 of the x4 lanes into 8 x2 NVMe bays. Or PLX the x8 into 8 or 10 gen4x2 ports. But maybe I'm missing something.
They are making complete crap. I think they are scared to make something good, as it will compete with the already OVER PRICED/more expensive models. They can make a 8/12/16 bay with a Microchip Switchtec PCIe Gen5 switch(Microchip Switchtec PFX 84xG5 PM50084). And add 2*25Gb NIC ports.
@NASCompares Apologies for going slightly off-topic. I recently found out that Asustor has released (or is in the process of releasing) the Lockerstor Gen3 series. While the hardware offers significant upgrades compared to the older Lockerstor models and the higher price is somewhat justified, the €1,500 street price at launch for the 6-bay model here in Germany is still a tough pill to swallow. What do you think the chances are that the price could drop by around €500 within about a year, settling at roughly €1,000 to €1,100? Especially considering that Asustor has historically positioned its Home and SoHo NAS devices more competitively compared to Synology and, to some extent, QNAP, likely to make up for the fact that Asustor’s software and app support has lagged behind a bit.
No chance. We're not abandoning other markets or price points, but we want to address a group of people that need these features and have been asking for these features. These features are expensive. There's no getting around it. Thunderbolt compatibility, the CPU, the ECC RAM, the extra heat dissipation to make sure that CPU can spread its wings, the PCIe switches, they're not cheap. But we heard people who want Thunderbolt compatibility on the NAS and our product remains significantly cheaper than QNAP's Thunderbolt NAS devices. We will continue to take into account the numerous opinions we encounter and will always bring them up in meetings.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Do you think there’s a chance we’ll see a 6-bay "Lockerstor _Light_ Gen3"? My AS-606T is really at its limit in terms of performance by today’s standards and, more importantly, has fallen out of support (which, considering its age, is completely understandable). I’m looking to replace it with a new 6-bay NAS, but anything over €1,100-€1,200 is a pretty bitter pill to swallow.
Slightly annoyed the USB4 is only 20gbps and not 40Gbps, but that's still pretty awesome... Not that I've worked out how you actually do the direct USB connection yet and it's not obvious in the manual! Thanks for the fan noise test - I think I must have a dodgy CPU fan as it's rather noisy... Off to submit a support ticket, yay!
@NASCompares please could you give some pointers on how you connected the NAS to the PC by USB4... I like to think myself fairly tech savvy but I'm getting absolutely nowhere with it and there seems to be nothing in Asustor's documentation about USB4 at all :/ Between the noisy CPU fan and not being able to get better than 10Gbps from this I'm starting to think I should be sending it back!
How much better would heat dissipation be if the chassis and case were made of aluminium? Even steel would dissipate heat better than most types of plastic, right?
Is there room for using drives with heat sinks? I think I'd put all gen3's in the 12 bay model just to control heat a bit. Im considering giving this a shot. I have a few 4tb nvme's i bought for a project that i never ended up needing.
Hi! Thank you very much for your videos, they are very helpful. I need to ask you something, what do I need to have for storage (I don't need it to be a NAS) that I can share with two Macs to edit video? Thank you very much!
Excellent review thank you. What drives are recommended for this nas as only been used to buying spinning drives but defo want the 12 bay of this please?
@@ASUSTOR_YT Identical? On the 12-slot it is: Slot 1=Gen4x4 Slot 2=Gen4x2 Slot 3=Gen4x2 Slot 4=Gen4x2 Slot 5=Gen4x1 Slot 6=Gen4x1 Slot 7=Gen4x1 Slot 8=Gen4x1 Slot 9=Gen3x1 Slot 10=Gen3x1 Slot 11=Gen3x2 Slot 12=Gen3x4 I think NASCompares mentioned that it´s the 6 slot FS6806X are a bit different regarding slot configurations since it has more lanes to distribute on 6 slots instead of 12 slots. So what i want to know the speeds, iow Gen and x1 or x2 or x3 or x4, in the 6 slot Flashstor Gen 2 FS6806X? Does it even have x1 slots?
I'm sorry Robbie. Next time I'll call it the Faststor. lol. As usual, feel free to leave your comments, criticism, questions, praise. The whole Shabang!
@@Dragonslayer12345 It's OK. It's not the best, but it works in a pinch. I'm doing some testing and want to release a vid on what it can and cannot do.
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Here's a little engagement to say goodbye with. I can't be watching your content simply because the way you say Ryzon instead of Ryzen winds me right up. Good luck.
The speed and port configuration makes no sense to me. If you can saturate a 10Gb NIC with a x1 slot, make the design simple and make all NVMe bays x2, like the enterprise market is moving towards. It makes no sense to release an all-flash NAS product like this and make a hodge-podge of PCIe speeds and link sizes. Just split the x8 and 2 of the x4 lanes into 8 x2 NVMe bays. Or PLX the x8 into 8 or 10 gen4x2 ports. But maybe I'm missing something.
They are making complete crap.
I think they are scared to make something good, as it will compete with the already OVER PRICED/more expensive models.
They can make a 8/12/16 bay with a Microchip Switchtec PCIe Gen5 switch(Microchip Switchtec PFX 84xG5 PM50084). And add 2*25Gb NIC ports.
You didn't test THE most important thing .... How the mismash of Drives work together in a raid array ..... That's what I want to know
I'll wait until the gen3 release, with 12x NVMe x1, 2x 10GBase, 2x USB3.0g2x2, 2x USB4.0, and a DP or HDMI :)
Same here, but at 2500 it will be expensive 😂 they will raise the price again right? And for that money I would want more then you describe 😂😂
Ummm you’re looking at least 2 years from now, probably another price adjustment, upwards not downwards.
9:56 There are no 8 GB ECC SO-DIMMs.
Can you please explain how to utilise the thunderbolt 4 port connecting it directly to a mac?
@NASCompares
Apologies for going slightly off-topic. I recently found out that Asustor has released (or is in the process of releasing) the Lockerstor Gen3 series. While the hardware offers significant upgrades compared to the older Lockerstor models and the higher price is somewhat justified, the €1,500 street price at launch for the 6-bay model here in Germany is still a tough pill to swallow.
What do you think the chances are that the price could drop by around €500 within about a year, settling at roughly €1,000 to €1,100? Especially considering that Asustor has historically positioned its Home and SoHo NAS devices more competitively compared to Synology and, to some extent, QNAP, likely to make up for the fact that Asustor’s software and app support has lagged behind a bit.
No chance. We're not abandoning other markets or price points, but we want to address a group of people that need these features and have been asking for these features. These features are expensive. There's no getting around it. Thunderbolt compatibility, the CPU, the ECC RAM, the extra heat dissipation to make sure that CPU can spread its wings, the PCIe switches, they're not cheap. But we heard people who want Thunderbolt compatibility on the NAS and our product remains significantly cheaper than QNAP's Thunderbolt NAS devices. We will continue to take into account the numerous opinions we encounter and will always bring them up in meetings.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Do you think there’s a chance we’ll see a 6-bay "Lockerstor _Light_ Gen3"? My AS-606T is really at its limit in terms of performance by today’s standards and, more importantly, has fallen out of support (which, considering its age, is completely understandable).
I’m looking to replace it with a new 6-bay NAS, but anything over €1,100-€1,200 is a pretty bitter pill to swallow.
Slightly annoyed the USB4 is only 20gbps and not 40Gbps, but that's still pretty awesome... Not that I've worked out how you actually do the direct USB connection yet and it's not obvious in the manual! Thanks for the fan noise test - I think I must have a dodgy CPU fan as it's rather noisy... Off to submit a support ticket, yay!
@NASCompares please could you give some pointers on how you connected the NAS to the PC by USB4... I like to think myself fairly tech savvy but I'm getting absolutely nowhere with it and there seems to be nothing in Asustor's documentation about USB4 at all :/ Between the noisy CPU fan and not being able to get better than 10Gbps from this I'm starting to think I should be sending it back!
even though it does not have an iGPU I wish you would do a plex transcoding test just to see what the cpu can do.
How much better would heat dissipation be if the chassis and case were made of aluminium? Even steel would dissipate heat better than most types of plastic, right?
Is there room for using drives with heat sinks? I think I'd put all gen3's in the 12 bay model just to control heat a bit. Im considering giving this a shot. I have a few 4tb nvme's i bought for a project that i never ended up needing.
Any idea if FS6812X supports TRIM for Raid 5 & 6? Earlier FS6712X did not.
Hi! Thank you very much for your videos, they are very helpful. I need to ask you something, what do I need to have for storage (I don't need it to be a NAS) that I can share with two Macs to edit video? Thank you very much!
Does SSD with heat sink compatible with the SSD slots since there may be potential heat generating issue?
The thumbnail being a box had me excited lol
Excellent review thank you. What drives are recommended for this nas as only been used to buying spinning drives but defo want the 12 bay of this please?
@NASCompares
Do you have the slot speeds for the 6-bay version? I tried to look in the Datasheet, but nothing is noted there...
I mean Gen4 x1, Gen4 x2, etc, etc.
The slot speeds are identical to the twelve slot version.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Identical? On the 12-slot it is:
Slot 1=Gen4x4
Slot 2=Gen4x2
Slot 3=Gen4x2
Slot 4=Gen4x2
Slot 5=Gen4x1
Slot 6=Gen4x1
Slot 7=Gen4x1
Slot 8=Gen4x1
Slot 9=Gen3x1
Slot 10=Gen3x1
Slot 11=Gen3x2
Slot 12=Gen3x4
I think NASCompares mentioned that it´s the 6 slot FS6806X are a bit different regarding slot configurations since it has more lanes to distribute on 6 slots instead of 12 slots.
So what i want to know the speeds, iow Gen and x1 or x2 or x3 or x4, in the 6 slot Flashstor Gen 2 FS6806X? Does it even have x1 slots?
@@InterpretFootage Yes sir. The first six slots are identical across both devices.
@@ASUSTOR_YT O.k, thanks!
Does the lockerstor gen 3 have the same ugly mismatch of the nvme speeds? This is literally offputting.
no
all 4 are gen4x1 so 2000GB/s each
@@junior-OG Thanks! I guess I will go hybrid again then.
But can it run ps2 games?
Yes but all chatacters running sooooo fast
is there a mini flash nas ....weaker platform but 6 m.2 slots
It's called FLASHSTOR 6 FS6706T.
yeah I mean something like the pocket nas from cwwk but 6 ssds instead of 4
Just received my Terramaster F8 SSD Plus and those are small and compact with a beefy processor and 8x NVMe.
Don't understand, why there's no nic to upgrade the speed to 2* 25gb/s... (the cpu can't handle it) but as it is for the moment it's useless..
I was waiting till I see they increased the price to 1200
Yeah same for me, the prices went over the top.
Bought 2x Terramaster F8 SSD Plus now.
They scared me away with those prices.
I'm sorry Robbie. Next time I'll call it the Faststor. lol.
As usual, feel free to leave your comments, criticism, questions, praise. The whole Shabang!
Is it good as a plex server without the iGPU?
@@Dragonslayer12345 It's OK. It's not the best, but it works in a pinch. I'm doing some testing and want to release a vid on what it can and cannot do.
The M.2 disks are 10x as expensive as a 3.5" HDD så it does not make any sense before M.2 price drop 70-80%
For 1300 USD, I can build a massive rig with 3 times more performance. Not sure what they were thinking of...
The materials used are top notch. The leather feels soft and luxurious, exactly like the real thing. The stitching is impeccable, with no loose or uneven lines. The hardware (including the iconic CC twist lock clasp) is durable, well made, and adds to the overall elegance of the bag kislux . I thought everyone who owned an LV monogram bag knew that it was obviously coated canvas? When people spend a fortune on an expensive bag, they might as well buy a replica
Is this a re-upload?
Nope. First review etc. why? Is something amiss? It went out early to subs and channel members early, that's it
@@nascomparesmaybe he became a member after a party and forgot 😂
Traduction de la vidéo très mauvaise, certaines phrases traduites en français ne veulent absolument rien dire.
Bkl
this is crap - no 25GE Support... i'm achieving 3000mb/s read & 2200mb/s write with a 1000 bucks QNAP NAS - no ssd Cache pure HDD Performance :)
Here's a little engagement to say goodbye with. I can't be watching your content simply because the way you say Ryzon instead of Ryzen winds me right up. Good luck.
I mean, sorry to hear that I guess. Toodle pip and best of luck to you and your endeavours!
@@nascomparesThank you.