WOW! now we DH riders have help for the Uphills and we can now freeride sickkk semi-flat terrain! imagine how fast you can go on the traditional drivetrain, but now we've got this electric drivetrain to BULLET downhills!!!! It is so SICK and crazy fun!!
Hey. I ended up getting the cu2pack like you after our brief chat in the comments. Are you using an extended pole in this? (Longer than the stock one) I'm struggling to get as good a angle As you. :)
I like the camera on the pole view. love your reviews but always wanted to see more of the bike during the rides. Will you be teaming up with any drone camera operators in the future?
It would be good if more brands got on board with the eDH bike idea, weight is less of a priority esp. with ally, the bike can't climb normally but with a tiny 18t front ring and something like an 11-25 rear you should be able to get up almost any access route, plus like most places that are off piste or closed on particular days for uplift you have it all built in. Would be interesting to know how the head angle affected steering and climbing, appeared to wander a bit or that could be due to you having the brakes incorrectly positioned for your reach and fingers.
+James Butler Hi James, I climbed the same route with a few other ebikes and they were easier to handle. The bike wasn't setup specifically for me or anything... just grabbed a demo so the brake position, frame size and seat were all sub-optimal. I agree that electric downhill bikes is a cool concept and has the potential for affordable less crowded rides ;)
I wish more e-bikes companies would add an "on road" (20 mph aka USA mode) and "off-road" (sport mode for over 20mph) like stealth bikes and other counterparts. Yeah, I know most people will keep it in sport mode and most likely break the laws in the US road for bicycles. At the same time safety and common sense is crucial when cycling. It's a shame when you do need the power to clime steep hills you're limited to the 20 mph and don't have enough power to push you up.
Work on your body position when riding and climbing, this will help you give better info videos. I know you said at the start you don't claim to be a pro however basic climbing and body position will really help you. Thanks for the video.
How fast does it go?' I road an older one a Giant Mountain Bike that went 20 MPH and went 30 Miles and now some new Electic Mountain Bikes go 50 Miles. I don't know if they go faster than 20 MPH. What does yours do?" I'm thinking of buying one but I want long travel but not many companie's have long travel Mountain Bikes only mid travel. :-)"
Hi Mitchell, I think there's a lot of adjustability if you get a longer stem or seat post and just slide the saddle back a bit. The frame sizes aren't that different from one size to the next so maybe you could do a Medium perfectly but a Small or Large could probably work too :)
I don't think it has a throttle. In fact, I'm sure it doesn't. He mentioned that it doesn't have a break sensor to cut the motor. It would have that if there was a throttle.
Cool, thanks Riley! It was the first time I saw it but then just the other day I saw a BULLS ebike with a similar chain tensioner sprocket. I guess Haibike just calls it something special for branding.
+Bastian Attiach Thanks for the tip, I have a few other mounts but wanted to show the bike vs. just the handlebars and have found that the helmet mount offers a limited perspective (unless you mean like a helmet pole mount?) drones also seem cool but then you get buzzing and my goal is to show how the bike sounds as well... constantly iterating, appreciate your tips and requests :)
I have never once rode my downhill bike up to the top of a trail .... so the extra weight seems pointless.... this on a enduro/cross country set up i can understand ... also if you come short on a gap jump that motor has had it
Yeah... I'm not really a downhiller, didn't have the terrain or the gear so did my best with the hills but you're right, would be cool to get an expert opinion on how the electric systems impact the ride and whether they're worth adding vs. using a chairlift
damn, was really wish the bike made up the hill with you on it. have been looking for an ebike that would help me get up hills with a up to 100lbs of trailer in-tow.
Some of the Yamaha powered Haibikes offer a bit more power but operate at a lower cadence like 80 rpm vs 95-100 on Bosch. I still prefer Bosch personally... IZIP makes a few mountain bikes like the Peak DS with TranzX motors which offer a lot of torque and made it up this hill :)
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
The haibike xduro full seven s 9.0 goes up to 45 km/h This one goes up to 25 km/h Is any way to disconnect that limiter??, I guess someone will find how to hack it
It seems pretty redundant. It only has a 18 tooth front sprocket where most downhill bikes have 36+ tooth front sprocket, so you can only pedal it to half the speed downhill and it weighs twice as much. Basically only gives 200mm suspension where you'd otherwise have maybe 120mm. Its just a cushy ride for lazy people, only lazy people aren't gonna drop that much cash on exercise equipment.
Why would one need electric assist for downhill bike, you couldn't climb up to hill with it. so what is the point of having electric if you can't climb up. it worked fine on flat road but for that you don't need downhill bike. wayyyy too expensive.
The bike is sweet really good design but the only drawback for me is that weak ass 36v battery with that weak 350w motor wich only comes with 75nm.. BafangHD is far more stronger.
This guy's lack of knowledge is astounding. Learn mountain bike nomenclature and what things do. i.e. high speed compression does not effect how high the bike rides. That's called sag, and is adjusted with air pressure on that fork. You also don't have sprockets in the back, they're called cogs. The tires are 2.4" wide, not diameter. The idler pulley system for the chain is not unique to Haibike.
+Alessandro Patanè So, you are better off if you buy Zero FX www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-fx/ Except it's a dirtbike and you need a license and insurance probably.
For me it's because I can ride on paths, sidewalks and go on more trails. With an ebike you don't need a license, registration or insurance to and they aren't as messy or loud. I used to have a dirt bike but didn't use it daily, was just for fun on the weekends occasionally. I ride my ebike almost daily :)
Yes, it's true! I get a little awkward when filming because I have kicked my cameras before or am trying to keep my legs apart to show the suspension fork etc. :P
+Mitchell Steindler Kinda does when there's no bike park around (like what he sais at 5:43) which is quite often the case... Of course it's not comparable to actual downhill biking. But if you enjoy the freedom it gives you and you want getting closer to a downhill like feel, then this might serve you well. (Even though I'd always suggest to do a custom approach and convert your bike yourself like I did.)
+Mitchell Steindler Yeah, this seems like a very niche product to me... but it looks awesome, has one of the best drive systems around (for a production ebike) and is a blast to ride. For someone recovering from an injury or just looking for a "go anywhere" ebike it could be perfect
lousy review as usual. top speed and how fast does it get There? how long does the battery last? all talk no facts. tired of these incomplete reviews LITTERING RUclips LIKE THE GARBAGE THEY ARE
ya at this time electeic mtb ia pointless. maybe 5 to 10 years down the line. they are still to heavy for normal riding. I DO NOT WANT A ELECTRIC MOTOR BIKE.
love the new camera angle
WOW! now we DH riders have help for the Uphills and we can now freeride sickkk semi-flat terrain! imagine how fast you can go on the traditional drivetrain, but now we've got this electric drivetrain to BULLET downhills!!!!
It is so SICK and crazy fun!!
Hey. I ended up getting the cu2pack like you after our brief chat in the comments.
Are you using an extended pole in this?
(Longer than the stock one)
I'm struggling to get as good a angle
As you.
:)
I like the camera on the pole view. love your reviews but always wanted to see more of the bike during the rides. Will you be teaming up with any drone camera operators in the future?
that's some badass camera perspectives.
Not sure what Haibike were thinking with that gearing setup. Needs a 42 15, maybe even 14. If it can't climb the steepest of hills what's the point?
Thanks for the review, diggin the riding footage.
Thanks for showing, thanks for uploading this!
Hey Court….great review. So what are you personally riding these days? :-)
It would be good if more brands got on board with the eDH bike idea, weight is less of a priority esp. with ally, the bike can't climb normally but with a tiny 18t front ring and something like an 11-25 rear you should be able to get up almost any access route, plus like most places that are off piste or closed on particular days for uplift you have it all built in. Would be interesting to know how the head angle affected steering and climbing, appeared to wander a bit or that could be due to you having the brakes incorrectly positioned for your reach and fingers.
+James Butler Hi James, I climbed the same route with a few other ebikes and they were easier to handle. The bike wasn't setup specifically for me or anything... just grabbed a demo so the brake position, frame size and seat were all sub-optimal. I agree that electric downhill bikes is a cool concept and has the potential for affordable less crowded rides ;)
Great review ;0)
When the bike stopped going up hill, did you have it in turbo?
living the pole cam while ride testing!!!!
+Chris Barr Glad you like it! I cut out some shots that were too nauseating... tried to keep enough for an interesting longer adventure ride :)
I need that bike
What brand is the gopro backpack majiggy?
I wish more e-bikes companies would add an "on road" (20 mph aka USA mode) and "off-road" (sport mode for over 20mph) like stealth bikes and other counterparts. Yeah, I know most people will keep it in sport mode and most likely break the laws in the US road for bicycles. At the same time safety and common sense is crucial when cycling. It's a shame when you do need the power to clime steep hills you're limited to the 20 mph and don't have enough power to push you up.
just relocate the magnet & have upto 70kmh assist
i love how he test a downhill bike in a crosscountry trail xD hahahaha
There is no tree in the mountain. Thanks for sharing.
Work on your body position when riding and climbing, this will help you give better info videos. I know you said at the start you don't claim to be a pro however basic climbing and body position will really help you. Thanks for the video.
How fast does it go?' I road an older one a Giant Mountain Bike that went 20 MPH and went 30 Miles and now some new Electic Mountain Bikes go 50 Miles. I don't know if they go faster than 20 MPH. What does yours do?" I'm thinking of buying one but I want long travel but not many companie's have long travel Mountain Bikes only mid travel. :-)"
I am five feet 8 inches. I saw a small small Haibike Xduro Pro on Ebay for about $4,000.00 that retails for $9,000.00. Am I too tall?
Hi Mitchell, I think there's a lot of adjustability if you get a longer stem or seat post and just slide the saddle back a bit. The frame sizes aren't that different from one size to the next so maybe you could do a Medium perfectly but a Small or Large could probably work too :)
What kind of helmet and glasses do you wear? I mean brand and model
what is the max speed (only the motor without help with the peddals)
I don't think it has a throttle. In fact, I'm sure it doesn't. He mentioned that it doesn't have a break sensor to cut the motor. It would have that if there was a throttle.
the upper sprocket isn't exclusive to haibike. the commencal supreme has had it for 2 years now and gt used them years ago
Cool, thanks Riley! It was the first time I saw it but then just the other day I saw a BULLS ebike with a similar chain tensioner sprocket. I guess Haibike just calls it something special for branding.
this bike is so beautiful
Where did u get your glasses?
Its a nerd glasses
Beautiful mountains! Where is that?
I'd suggest you get a GoPro and a mount for your helmet. You could use 2 hands that way and give us a better view of things
I agree
+Bastian Attiach Thanks for the tip, I have a few other mounts but wanted to show the bike vs. just the handlebars and have found that the helmet mount offers a limited perspective (unless you mean like a helmet pole mount?) drones also seem cool but then you get buzzing and my goal is to show how the bike sounds as well... constantly iterating, appreciate your tips and requests :)
+ElectricBikeReview.com You're a cool guy. Been subbed to you for 2 years and you make great content
why didn't you use the dropper post going down hill?
those brakes are xt xc brakes not dh brakes there not that powerful.
I hope you didn't watch the video,before you try to make a point.
Pushing it! No walk assist? That sucks for 10 plus grand
Does it charge when you go downhill???
I have never once rode my downhill bike up to the top of a trail .... so the extra weight seems pointless.... this on a enduro/cross country set up i can understand ... also if you come short on a gap jump that motor has had it
I would like to see someone doing actual downhill with 3m drops etc.
Great vid.
+pop bode Thanks, did my best to present the bike accurately and have some fun out there too ;)
Thx for your video.
need to see someone use it for what its made for
Yeah... I'm not really a downhiller, didn't have the terrain or the gear so did my best with the hills but you're right, would be cool to get an expert opinion on how the electric systems impact the ride and whether they're worth adding vs. using a chairlift
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Price ? top speed ?
+racer98 Germany: 8000,- Euro, 25 km/h.
+Rideoak Can u go over 25km/h if you really pedal hard?
Yes, you can- but without the Motor.
Ok
but you can put a cip in the engine for 150 euros witch will make it go 50
damn, was really wish the bike made up the hill with you on it. have been looking for an ebike that would help me get up hills with a up to 100lbs of trailer in-tow.
Some of the Yamaha powered Haibikes offer a bit more power but operate at a lower cadence like 80 rpm vs 95-100 on Bosch. I still prefer Bosch personally... IZIP makes a few mountain bikes like the Peak DS with TranzX motors which offer a lot of torque and made it up this hill :)
I like the bike 🚲 and i liked your review of it too.. you're right, it's expensive! cheers!
damn, that price doe, might as well get a motorbike
no one asked you
+Amer Muratovic :P
@@slapster2275 it's called comments for a reason. You're not supposed to be asked to post
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
The haibike xduro full seven s 9.0 goes up to 45 km/h
This one goes up to 25 km/h
Is any way to disconnect that limiter??, I guess someone will find how to hack it
just replace the magnet & ride upto 70kmh
It seems pretty redundant. It only has a 18 tooth front sprocket where most downhill bikes have 36+ tooth front sprocket, so you can only pedal it to half the speed downhill and it weighs twice as much. Basically only gives 200mm suspension where you'd otherwise have maybe 120mm. Its just a cushy ride for lazy people, only lazy people aren't gonna drop that much cash on exercise equipment.
I want this bike
2.4 inch diameter? What?
You can build one for a fraction of that price. 3000 watt cyclone mid drive on a custom frame rocks and will eat this
how could anyone give this young man a thumbs down if you people had half the paion he has then maybe well maybe you go bro Phillip from WV
you selling these things?
tell me plz
top speed
battery life
Where is that place?
Why would one need electric assist for downhill bike, you couldn't climb up to hill with it. so what is the point of having electric if you can't climb up.
it worked fine on flat road but for that you don't need downhill bike.
wayyyy too expensive.
its great riding up hill I have a haibike not that one but similar and its great for climbing.
The bike is sweet really good design but the only drawback for me is that weak ass 36v battery with that weak 350w motor wich only comes with 75nm.. BafangHD is far more stronger.
+3dkiller Agree, for the money much better bikes can be EASILY built.
This guy's lack of knowledge is astounding. Learn mountain bike nomenclature and what things do. i.e. high speed compression does not effect how high the bike rides. That's called sag, and is adjusted with air pressure on that fork. You also don't have sprockets in the back, they're called cogs. The tires are 2.4" wide, not diameter. The idler pulley system for the chain is not unique to Haibike.
Sag isn’t how high the bike rides sag is how much u sit into the travel when you are on the bike
Oh boy. Another "know it all" keyboard warrior.
Mavic invented the aluminum rim for the tour de france
Ok, so you took a downhill bike on an XC course to test it...
and he does not know his foot placement on the pedals tho lol
christ-i could stare at it for a day....
Not saying that this is not but you are far too keen
Whys the seat so high it's a downhill bike
6k UK pounds the frame should be lifetime warranty
it is alloy you fucktard
why the fucktard its a fucking over priced piece of kit dickweed pounds £££££££££
Imagine taking that thing to a bike park😂😂
Wow!!! It's Incredible but unfortunately it is very expensive because it costs 8000 €. :-) D-)
+Alessandro Patanè So, you are better off if you buy Zero FX www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-fx/
Except it's a dirtbike and you need a license and insurance probably.
*a w e s o m e*
Why not buy a Honda grom for 2999
For me it's because I can ride on paths, sidewalks and go on more trails. With an ebike you don't need a license, registration or insurance to and they aren't as messy or loud. I used to have a dirt bike but didn't use it daily, was just for fun on the weekends occasionally. I ride my ebike almost daily :)
Geiles Teil
You should learn how to put THe feet correctly on THe Pedals :D
Yes, it's true! I get a little awkward when filming because I have kicked my cameras before or am trying to keep my legs apart to show the suspension fork etc. :P
Ah ;)
This bike is awesome
olive green not white !
Come on, dude! If you are going to demo a downhill bike at least learn how to ride a MTB properly.
thad is not downhill
Doesn't make much sense for a downhill bike really...
+Mitchell Steindler Kinda does when there's no bike park around (like what he sais at 5:43) which is quite often the case...
Of course it's not comparable to actual downhill biking. But if you enjoy the freedom it gives you and you want getting closer to a downhill like feel, then this might serve you well. (Even though I'd always suggest to do a custom approach and convert your bike yourself like I did.)
+Mitchell Steindler Yeah, this seems like a very niche product to me... but it looks awesome, has one of the best drive systems around (for a production ebike) and is a blast to ride. For someone recovering from an injury or just looking for a "go anywhere" ebike it could be perfect
+nerdexproject if there's no bike part around, get an all mountain/ enduro bike with 160mm travel and weighs half what this bike does.
+Brandon Clark la pierre , specialized ...
+Mitchell Steindler It MAKE sense!
When there is NO Shuttle or a Lift- it`s the only Chance o go Uphill, with a bike like this!
Last time I took a sales mans advise it was total crap
2019 8.0 with pw-x is much better
Sounds like an old cement mixer
lousy review as usual. top speed and how fast does it get There? how long does the battery last? all talk no facts. tired of these incomplete reviews LITTERING RUclips LIKE THE GARBAGE THEY ARE
Hi-tech bike, Low-tech stand.. lol!
Or a dirt bike
lol' "highbike". it's haibike!
ouch!
Ha 250 watts get a life mines 500 you selling legal no one wants that we want against the law ebikes
jimi8fun23
Wow, so edgy. Bet you're really hardcore.
moral of the story, electric sucks....battery not good enough yet. Good luck
Ballshit
?
ya at this time electeic mtb ia pointless. maybe 5 to 10 years down the line. they are still to heavy for normal riding. I DO NOT WANT A ELECTRIC MOTOR BIKE.
"ya at this time electeic mtb ia pointless" says the guy that drives to the trail head or shuttles up.