JND vs. Queen Studios - Battle of the Aragorns! But are either worth the huge price tag?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @PassionForArtCollector
    @PassionForArtCollector 12 дней назад +6

    Great video! But what actually defines a statue? Is it the plastic resin figures that we buy from Prime1?
    A statue is a free-standing sculpture in which the realistic, full-length figures of persons or animals are carved or cast in a durable material such as wood, metal or stone.
    Resin is thermosetting plastic which contains some pieces of grinded stone ;)
    Collect what you love and keep up the great videos :)

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  12 дней назад +1

      @@PassionForArtCollector indeed matey - and when I say ‘doll’, it is meant with a firm tongue in cheek! 😉😁👍🏻

    • @PassionForArtCollector
      @PassionForArtCollector 12 дней назад +1

      @@hauntofthecollector Haha touché! Keep up the good work :)

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  12 дней назад

      @@PassionForArtCollector many thanks matey, I shall endeavour to do so! 👍🏻

  • @tirmo8110
    @tirmo8110 12 дней назад +2

    100% agree with you, full stop!

  • @BarefootonBricks
    @BarefootonBricks 13 дней назад +3

    Great vid as always sir. Statue prices are already ridiculous and now the companies are looking for any excuse to price them even higher

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@BarefootonBricks cheers matey! Yeah… it’s sadly seemingly getting more ridiculous?…

  • @psychpatient
    @psychpatient 9 дней назад +1

    I appreciate your input and the video. I'm fairly new to collecting and have a handful of Weta 1/6 scale resin statues. I pre-ordered the JND Aragorn amd this will be my first statue/collectible of this caliber. I have seen lots of posts and videos of Sideshow, JND, Queen Studios, Prime1, Infinity Studios, etc. From what I've seen, JND really does nail statue composition and likeness. Maybe a couple of their pieces aren't 100% likeness, but still extremely close. As far as value, sure, you can get more "bang for your buck" from a higher volume statue company like Infinity or Prime1, but they have a lot more QC issues and overall "misses" when it comes to pose and likeness. They can afford this since they are producing lots of statues and collectibles. Attempting to compare preproduction or prototype images is a fools errand because all that matters is what ships, and from what I've seen from other collectors puts JND at the top as far as quality, likeness, composition, etc. Sure, the price tag demands a high amount, but I think you're getting what you're paying for; no lighting tricks or heavily edited photos. Obviously we wont know until this Aragorn ends up in people's hands, but I think it's going to be outstanding and will probably be a little better than the Queen Studios Aragorn. The pose on Queen's version is inferior.... there's no debate there. The face is debatable, but I think that comes down to artisitic interpretation. Do they both look like Aragorn played by Viggo Mortensen? Yes they do. Are they both 100% likeness... debatable. Lighting, angles, etc. all play into how it looks at any given perspective. At the end of the day, they are, without a doubt, Aragorn from Lord of the Rings. It all comes down to personal preference and what you're willing to spend your money on, based on which pose, outfit, or face you like the most. I am stoked for my JND piece to arrive, but I can see why it's so heavily debated as it's a huge purchase.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  9 дней назад

      @@psychpatient hey matey! Congrats on the PO, and if it’s worth the price tag to you (& what arrives is a product worthy of the price?), then that’s all that matters matey!… Certainly not my, or others, opinions!
      But! I do find JND to be an extremely arrogant company, and that alone puts me off wanting to deal with them? And I’m sure it’s most other collectors issues with them as well, along with extremely high price tags etc?
      But, I hope when he arrives, it delivers on all expectations & you’re chuffed with your first JND purchase! 👍🏻

    • @psychpatient
      @psychpatient 9 дней назад +1

      @@hauntofthecollector I appreciate that, man! I will be honest, I do not know the politics of these various companies, only my minor anecdotal experiences with a few companies (PCS, Weta, Pure Arts, Sideshow). JND was very responsive to my inquiries, so I have had, thus far, a great experience with their customer service. I hope their products match that level of care and attention. Pure Arts seems to have VERY poor QC issues. I have only bought one piece from them and it was a huge disappointment that I ended up returning it. I also own the Queen Studios Joker 1/3 (2019) and that piece is OUTSTANDING, minus a few cut corners. I appreciate your insight and keep on collecting brother!

    • @jesusmendozarodriguez-f7w
      @jesusmendozarodriguez-f7w 5 дней назад +2

      @@hauntofthecollector yo preordene el de queen y estoy seguro que sera mejor que la de jnd pero eso se vera cuando nos llegue a casa y podamos comparar ahora solo son suposiciones a mi me gusta mas la pose de queen y el esculpido tambien y la ropa .un saludo

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  5 дней назад

      Yes mate, for me, you’ve definitely made the right choice! (As it would be the one I would make also!)… 👍🏻

  • @darthchizzle23
    @darthchizzle23 13 дней назад +2

    Great video as always . I agree with everything you said. It’s like hot toys with ridiculous prices.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@darthchizzle23 hah, yeah!… I started with Hot Toys… before moving into statues… 👍🏻

    • @darthchizzle23
      @darthchizzle23 13 дней назад +1

      @@hauntofthecollector plus this ridiculous price and shipping fees and congrats on the upcoming weta pieces and can’t wait to see the upcoming reviews

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@darthchizzle23 thanks matey!… hopefully they’ll both arrive before Xmas? 👍🏻

    • @darthchizzle23
      @darthchizzle23 13 дней назад +1

      @ thinking about picking up the Sauron miniature statue. Free shipping on that piece right now

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @ yes, the free shipping from Weta at the mo is definitely something worth jumping on? (Especially given when you see what shipping from Weta can be on some items?)…

  • @One_Of_Nine
    @One_Of_Nine 12 дней назад +1

    I totally agree with you! These are just overpriced dolls but to each their own. Great video!

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  12 дней назад

      @@One_Of_Nine many thanks matey! Appreciate your comment 👍🏻

  • @kevinrobertson1244
    @kevinrobertson1244 13 дней назад +4

    I am in close agreement with much of what you say. These are priced beyond most normies means especially considering UK EU deliveries when we can expect best part of another 1 to 1.5K in shipping and tax. So i am out aswell. I do applaud however the efforts of both in pushing the bounds with the silicone sculps - i think is a bit unfair to call them oversized dolls - i love my SSW PFs and the Asmus “dolls” 😊. I have seen the full JND line physically at the Wonderfests in China and their detailing is amazing. The DC and Justice League lines are fantastic but for sure overpriced. I feel however JND rushed the ball on this as QS looks to have pulled a fast one on them. JND likeness is a fail and the more i look at it now this semi crouching pose is just wrong. I think all things considering the classic museum pose and head sculpt of QS is by far the best (this is what JND should have done). I find it also amusing how many disparaging remarks on the JND collectors pages from fanboys pretty disrespectful to the competition.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@kevinrobertson1244 thank you for your comment & input mate & yeah, I did use the word ‘doll’ a little excessive (it was meant tongue in cheek, really…) It’s mainly that I think this part of the hobby is now very disassociated with statues, through price, availability & media involved? (Mainly the silicone/hair/glass eyes etc…) 👍🏻

  • @skelatonman
    @skelatonman 13 дней назад +1

    8:36 "This IS my bag...baby!"- Austin Powers

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@skelatonman was always more of a Dr. Evil fan myself!… 😁😜👍🏻

  • @davidmorris4391
    @davidmorris4391 13 дней назад +1

    Completely agree pal! I remember that indy release and thinking that connery looked OK at the time, but indy....well no...lol. then I saw the prices JND wanted and not a chance!

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@davidmorris4391 yeah, huge price tags placed on pieces that seemingly continually fail to deliver!?… But… many don’t seem to mind, matey??… 😁👍🏻

    • @clon76
      @clon76 13 дней назад +1

      I don't think Indy's likeness is as bad as most people seem to think it is. But the hat is a disaster, and ruining the whole thing

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @ hey matey… I thought it looked a great ‘duo’ when I saw the pics, but watched this vid (at least 3x!!) & just thought the likenesses were really not that great at all??…
      Do like that they put all the cool little ‘toys’ in… but this doesn’t in any way justify their price tags, to my mind, at least?

  • @theodoresasopoulos3823
    @theodoresasopoulos3823 11 дней назад +2

    Couldn’t agree with you more Jas, overpriced mini manikins in my opinion 😂

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  11 дней назад +1

      @@theodoresasopoulos3823 cheers matey!… yeah, they’re not for me at that extortionate price 👍🏻

  • @Iko_Iko_Statues
    @Iko_Iko_Statues 13 дней назад +1

    Agree on Queen. Some other great insights as well.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@Iko_Iko_Statues thank you matey! Always appreciated 👍🏻

  • @SnapJimmy
    @SnapJimmy 12 дней назад +1

    I have been to JND conventions and do have to admit the silicon skin does adds to life like quality someplace to other materials, but these prices are just insane. I am leaning towards JND though as it reminds me of one of my fav Aragorn statue from Weta back from 2001. Same pose, same stance and expression.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  12 дней назад +3

      @@SnapJimmy hey there - yeah, I’m not really knocking the quality here, I did say that JND pieces do have that maturity & style, but my main issue here is at the top tier prices they’re adding then the product has to be exemplary! And there are clearly some issues here? (Albeit, they can be minor ones or ones from one’s own perspective?)…
      I think the other reason people are really critical against JND is the fact they seem to be very openly arrogant & almost insulting towards their core market of potential collectors?…
      Doesn’t seem a wise marketing strategy to alienate yourself from the bulk of potential buyers?…
      But hey, what do I know?… I’m only a bog standard collector from little ‘ol’ England! 😁

  • @CaBdosdos
    @CaBdosdos 11 дней назад +2

    I highly disagree but respect your opinion! Thanks for uploading Jason.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  11 дней назад +2

      @@CaBdosdos hey matey, it’s totally cool to disagree! My opinion isn’t necessarily ever going to be agreeable to all!.. Nor would I ever expect it to be… (I did expect more resistance from this vid?… But, JND are a pretty unpopular company, to be fair…)

    • @CaBdosdos
      @CaBdosdos 11 дней назад +1

      @hauntofthecollector I think JND owners are content with their products. Even on the forums they don't engage with the army of haters who bash the products. I have 2 pieces myself and love them but understand the criticisms.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  11 дней назад +2

      @ the only issue I have, really, with JND, their prices to one side, is their blatantly arrogant mannerisms they have on their videos and posts!… It just makes me not want to do business with them!
      Prime 1 have been on the receiving end of more hate than JND may ever know, and they’ve have never responded to it any way! Which I personally admire about P1…
      But as I said in the vid, it’s to each their own & if you’re happy etc then that’s a good enough reason for me… 👍🏻

  • @niallstranix5412
    @niallstranix5412 13 дней назад +1

    Hi Jason! Completely agree with your thoughts here on these 2 figures. Although I have to say for full disclosure, as dolls were mentioned, I do own some 1/6th scale figures including the InArt Gandalf and Aragorn, which are both awesome. But as for these larger and in my opinion over the top pieces, I draw the line. That JND Aragorn does look like he is trying to push one out! 😏 To be fair the Queen studios effort is much better, but that scale is just not for me.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@niallstranix5412 hey matey - yeah, I was just saying that for some time now 1:6 scale mixed media pieces were having the piss taken out them, so for me, these 1:3 are no different! So, let’s see if those who dish it out can take it back? 😉😁👍🏻

  • @tobaccojoe14
    @tobaccojoe14 13 дней назад +2

    I won’t be buying it as I usually only buy villains. But be fair for me living in the US I’m able to get the queen studios version delivered to my door for $2470. Which that price is pretty reasonable for a piece with mixed media, metal weapons, prosthetic eyes, punched hair especially when it’s also including the beard, and at 1/3 scale. A good example to compare is the Prime 1 T800s from T2, the Deluxe bonus version which is sculpted that has the swap out heads and mini bust is $2100 retail. Meanwhile the same statue that has one less head and no mini bust but does have rooted hair and glass eyes is $2700 plus shipping which would push it very close to the $3000 mark. Those extra things like hair, eyes, and silicon does add a lot to the realism of a piece especially when viewed in person but does require more human effort to pull off well hence a higher price point. That said I completely agree with your points regarding the JND versions likeness and pose it’s pretty rough especially when the queen version costs less and is better executed imo.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +2

      Hey cheers matey for your comment… 👍🏻
      Yes, obviously I’m aware of the extra frills etc and the advance in price it causes, but honestly… $2.5K??… To my mind, it just doesn’t equate to such a huge price tag (which one climbs higher for us here in UK due to extortionate shipping & import fees!)…

    • @tobaccojoe14
      @tobaccojoe14 13 дней назад +1

      @ oh yeah with those import fees and shipping costs on top I would not touch it either if I was in your position

  • @MWJ86
    @MWJ86 12 дней назад +2

    Predator and Nazgûl bust has mixed media too. You better get rid of those none statues mate😜

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  12 дней назад +1

      Aye, but far from 90% MM matey! They’re staying where they are! 😁😜👍🏻

  • @RealKingkong9888
    @RealKingkong9888 13 дней назад +1

    Great review 👍

  • @jorgedxto
    @jorgedxto 13 дней назад +1

    I completely agree, those are stupidly priced mix media dolls with not likeness..

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@jorgedxto cheers for watching & dropping me a comment matey 👍🏻

  • @harryjones1692
    @harryjones1692 13 дней назад +1

    Statue prices are absolutely insane!!
    But I have to say I picked up some bargains in the WETA Black Friday sale :) got bilbo Baggins at his desk for $350 AUD which I feel is a reasonable price for a 1/6

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@harryjones1692 yeah, there were some decent prices in that sale!… I did have a look myself matey… didn’t buy anything, however…

  • @adamdobos3578
    @adamdobos3578 13 дней назад +1

    Great video as always. Also I agree JND is just terrible.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@adamdobos3578 it’s a very poor likeness mate, pose is terrible as well!… But JND fans will buy anyway & try to convince everyone that it’s awesome!!??
      Cheers mate 👍🏻

    • @adamdobos3578
      @adamdobos3578 13 дней назад +1

      @hauntofthecollector yeah. This is what's happening in the JND group. I cannot believe people are so blind and they are saying this is the best likeness ever. But it is their money.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад +1

      @@adamdobos3578 aye mate, it’s a case of Emperors New Clothes - they’re all believing it’s the case - mass delusion really?…
      But as you say, it’s entirely up to them… their money etc…

  • @johnmcclane2139
    @johnmcclane2139 12 дней назад +1

    Will silicon even last as long as a real statue?

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  11 дней назад +1

      @@johnmcclane2139 that’s an entire ‘other debate’ mate & one of which we really don’t know the true answer to, as yet? Although a few who have ‘dealings’ with silicone, have said it’s usually ‘good’ for around 20+ years?…

  • @krzychuk.6364
    @krzychuk.6364 13 дней назад +1

    Amen.
    Im simply waiting for Edoras environment from Weta and actual statues made of polystone
    These Aragorn pieces look nothing like Aragorn from the movies

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@krzychuk.6364 hey there, thanks for watching & dropping me a comment matey 👍🏻

  • @Waiden_CZ
    @Waiden_CZ 13 дней назад +1

    I agree, these are far from statues and super overpriced. Whoever waste money on these statues has to be either rich or fool (I hope you are rich).

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@Waiden_CZ hey there, I think some of these companies now are only interested in targeting the rich end of their customer basis?… Which of course, they’re perfectly within their rights to do!… 👍🏻

  • @user-hx4br8to3q
    @user-hx4br8to3q 13 дней назад

    Have you actually seen JNDs in person?

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@user-hx4br8to3q Nope, I’ve never been able to view one in person…
      They’re very scarce indeed here in the UK, I’m afraid…

  • @TheAngmarArchives
    @TheAngmarArchives 13 дней назад +2

    Totally agree - these are high-end dolls, no question about it. The likeness of JND is poor, Aragorn looks like a hobo. Queens looks quite stiff to me. Either way - absolutely no interest in these, but hope that those that do go for them enjoy them. Neither of these have that 'Middle-earth' feel and could be anything. At least the JND Aragorn doesn't look like one of the Kardashians this time! Hope you are keeping well!

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      @@TheAngmarArchives hey matey! I’m good - always welcome to message me matey… 👍🏻
      And good points again & I agree… just doesn’t ‘feel’ LotR at all?… But, along side Weta, I doubt any company really can?… cheers my mate, hope you’re doing well?…

  • @Falconia_
    @Falconia_ 11 дней назад +2

    Good pose on queen really? Jnd is better by far in my opinion, just look at the sword, looks like he cant handle it, and the pose is too unnatural, like a doll. Jnd is more natural, the likeness i agree queen is better but probably a downgrade is going to happen.
    Regarding the bracelet, it was based on the first movie, and he doesn’t have it until the end. For me, it makes more sense for him not to have it, unless the Queen piece were from The Two Towers or had battle damage.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  11 дней назад +2

      @@Falconia_ of course matey, everyone is going to have a split opinion when pretty much identical pieces come out in unison (like the multiple Heath Ledger & Joaquin Phoenix Jokers…), it’s always each to their own…
      Personally, the JND pose to me, when I first saw it, looks like he’s desperate for the loo! And I can’t un-see that now! 😁👍🏻

  • @ma9ical1
    @ma9ical1 12 дней назад +1

    JND is fully sculpted apart from the cape. Anyhow I have my glasses on too and I can see both have merits and look good to me. It is true that these are dolls like statues can remind me of garden gnomes. Criticising is easy.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  12 дней назад +1

      @@ma9ical1 my main critique here was aimed at the price & JND’s poor likeness!… Admittedly, my ‘doll’ comments were meant as a wind up! 😁😉

    • @ma9ical1
      @ma9ical1 12 дней назад +2

      @ I don’t see the JND has poor likeness, is it perfect, not at all but to say it’s poor is non sense. In some angles the QS looks better, in others the JND looks better. Overall both have qualities. What I know is that you don’t get a downgrade with production with JND. QS is more uncertain. If I had to choose I choose JND but I don’t collect this line. I really don’t care about these statues.
      Regarding the price, of course it is ridiculous, having said this, I have a few of these high end statues and they are just in a different league compared to traditional statues. It’s not just the silicone, it’s everything else, the very fine sculpt detail and paint job is way above the likes of P1.

  • @clon76
    @clon76 13 дней назад +1

    As someone who only collects movie character statues(mostly LotR, but some others) I like mixed media. It limits the pose, but sculpted clothes just never look quite right to me. I think comic book and game statues are better when fully sculpted.
    But I only collect older Sideshow pieces, which had amazing tailoring.
    These things are way out of my price range. They're ridiculous. But I feel the same about Rolex watches. I'm just not their market now.
    My other problem is the push for hyper realism. I'm fine with my statues looking like statues of characters. They don't have to look like actual mini versions of real people. And because these things have to be perfect, if they are off by even 5%, they look worse than polystone heads that are 20% off.

    • @hauntofthecollector
      @hauntofthecollector  13 дней назад

      Hey matey, that’s an excellent point you raise! The likeness being off on sculpts is definitely way more forgiving! The fact that these companies are basically bragging ‘hyper real’ but not able to deliver that, in full, I would think is a little embarrassing?
      Of course, that’s not always the case, both JND & Queens have, in the past, delivered some excellent likenesses!….