Everything is politics. Saying, "I want to save the planet" is fundamentally political. You're alienating the people who don't want to save the planet.
@@bill5316 My thoughts exactly. Abundant, decentralized and cheap energy is the opposite of what the globalists want...so this is either a ruse, or it will be buried.
We're still YEARS away from fusion as a practical energy source... However, every step forward is a step in the right direction. I hope I can see it in my lifetime.
@@nyteshayde1197 Easier said than done to design, build, create safety protocols, revise, etc for fusion processes that are complex to manifest into something viable and cost effective. Hell even the storage of plasma is complex. Good luck. I give it at least a few decades.
I was fortunate enough to take an astronomy class in 1987 at the University of Maryland in which Neil deGrasse Tyson was the guest lecturer that semester. It was definitely one of those classes that you wanted to go to.
@ TAFKAEH Mr. deGrasse joins showmanship talent and scientific knowledge. That is why he appeals to the masses but if you studied basic physics before getting into astronomy, you would know that the principle of conservation of energy is unshakeable while Mr deGrasse is skillfully using his words to make believe the general public that it is possible to get more energy out than you put in. The interviewer may not know that but a scientist with integrity should carefully explain that the simplistic interpretation given on the video is not what really happend in the lab.
Great, more information from the celebrity who still denies the existence of UFOs', even after the military released the proof. Zero interest in the opinions of Mr. deGrasse. This self-important man has more interest in his own opinions than in recognizing proof in science. .
If the world were shown more physics, science, engineering and technology advancements , perhaps some young great minds could be inspired contribute the advancement of humanity instead of what we’re currently being shown; Sports, entertainment politics and war.
Unfortunately, for real science and engineering, you can't count on feelings or group think. It's so hard for snowflakes. Carbon isn't the problem, lying about it is. Fear mongering.
@@nunyabusiness5075 No. My contribution is limited to being kind and caring to humanity. It’s nothing when compared to that of those physicists and engineers who have used such knowledge for geopolitical dominance.
Well, imagine all the money saved if we didn't go to war, or if we had no profiteering companies where profits are all that matters. Of course a certain amount of defense spending would be needed, but if we all focused our efforts toward human and world betterment we would be a much happier and advanced civilization. We have instead profiteering, and so a vast majority of our engineers are spent trying to get you to waste your time by being addicted to a game or your phone or screen in some way. Politicians maintain their power by outraging and dividing the people. It's quite a shame.
This is literally like when people were finally able to make fire, before that nights were cold. Now we are at the beginning of harnessing fusion, millions of times more powerful to make electricity. We knew we could make more energy with fusion, and now we all know it's possible.
@@bighands69 Getting a net energy gain for the first time in history after just 60 years of research is monumental. Don't underrate this huge achievement just because it's not a commercial reactor yet. It took us over 200 years to figure out solar power and a similar amount of time to figure out batteries. We're going at a crazy pace right now and I'm here for it.
There are over 50 fission reactors being built and over 100 fission reactors planned. It will unfold over decades. Are they wasting a gazilion dollars for an obsolete technology???
As a retired material scientist, I have been following this "HOLY GRAIL" of ENERGY (though not really FREE🤣🤣) generation from controlled FUSION. This is an epic moment just like the FIRST DEMO of TRANSISTOR, CONNECTED COMPUTERS which led to the internet, etc. Well done by the brilliant team at NIF of course with the bold investment by DOE&DOD with our TAXES. This is the sort of science that has just WORLD changing implications and WE THE PEOPLE OF the USA should be very proud and supportive of such work for solving BIG&DIFFICULT TECHNOLOGY PROBLEMS
It is a waste of research dollars that is less worthwhile than the transmutation of distilled water into gold, which is more economical with current fusion technology and any future advances in fusion than the production of energy ever could be. That is to say, both of them are useless. The reactors are even more radioactive than fission reactors unless they have this magic pixie dust fuel called helium-3 that is effectively impossible to get in even gram quantities. The only way to get it in decent quantities involves mining the moon, which is a ridiculous proposition. The reactors have an issue where the superconductors needed for field containment spontaneously stop superconducting, which effectively turn the reactors into bombs. Also, the timeline for maybe producing a reactor that is net energy positive keeps slipping by decades. The entire thing is a scam orchestrated by the physics community. It would be nice if journalists asked Dr. Tyson about how the physics community solves the radiation problem with fuels that we can actually obtain (they do not). Saying it is an engineering problem is a cop out. That is like saying that going to another galaxy in your lifetime is an engineering problem. It is an insurmountable problem. Also, asking him about the problem of the field containment spontaneously failing from the superconductors spontaneously failing to superconduct would be interesting too, although I suspect he will say it is an engineering problem, despite nobody knowing why it happens. All efforts here would be better spent on photovoltaic research, which could give us more energy than we could possibly use for centuries. It is better known as solar energy and unlike nuclear fusion, it is not a scam.
Best succinct description. What I hear them saying (betwee the lines, but not saying) is that fusion is unstable and can explode, just without all of the residual effects. The difficulty it seems, in fusion is maintaining stability, so you may have outages or explosions. I look forward to learning more.
@@lgonzalez1154 Well that is great news then, if there is no unstable explosions involved. Thank you for sharing. Also, please point me to that scientific data you found.
I love listening to NDT, especially when he's on Rogan's show. He makes insanely complicated scientific concepts and technologies understandable for someone who didn't go to MIT or have some scientific background
@@HopDavid "Rogan's listeners tend not to notice" lol are you kidding me? look at the comments section on one of neals videos on rogan, its just everyone roasting on him and rightfully so.
@@zeffez8161 (Doing a search for the Rogan interview where Neil tells Joe some infinities are bigger than others...) Oh my gosh, you correct. There are a lot of people dogpiling on Neil for his incorrect explanation. Maybe I should stop dissing Rogan's fans.
Call him and ask if you could visit his house. I bet he would welcome you with open arms. 45 minutes talking and 15 minutes pillow fighting. Best day of your life. Act now!
If you can handle being treated like an idiot and being disregarded and interrupted relentlessly haha. Watch him on Joe Rogan, it's rough. So yeah, try the pillow fight instead, better way to spend the night
I'm not so sure about that. For a moment I was surprised to see Degrasse selling this on Fox and the presenter seemed all the willing to talk about it but then the moment he starts condemning fossil fuels by name she shuts him down.🤔 It's just another stalling tactic. Since the first tokamak (fusion reactor) was built in 1958 it became a joke that fusion on tap would be decades in the future. And the latest briefing is again that it will be decades before this new tech can be useful for the grid. The materials needed for the process are too rare for any regional let alone global power supply. That's too late for the climate crisis. The oil markets will love this news bc they know it will distract people from the need to invest in already reliable renewables.
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@HandbrakeBiscuit The announcement of this undeniable scientific achievement is rightly deserved but obscured by the fact that it gives the public the false impression that the basic law of conservation of energy has been defeated. Mr deGrasse should have clarified by giving an honest explanation to the word play taking place, that it is impossible to breach that law and that the offcial version leaves some things out. Any physics undergrad knows that if it was possible to get more energy than what is put in means that the universe as known to us cannot exist.
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This is going to help so many people, republicans and democrats and all people everywhere. A huge step in humankind, when this takes off we’ll be able to start reversing climate change, which is destroying the habitable aspects of our planet. We can bring animals back, people can start hunting and have those absolutely beautiful trophies on their walls again. This is going to be good for all of us. Every single one of us. Congratulations Humanity ❤
Mr. Tyson is the high school science teacher we all should have had. He is awesome at presentation. Harnessing plasma with a electrified gyro sphere is similar to Doc. Oc from spider man "the power of the sun in the palm of your hand". A faraday cage is used to block energy from the outside. Reversing that same principle to "contain" energy is just awesome. The future is now... LOL (movie quote).
@@GH-oi2jf I agree - he has been successful at lampooning flat Earthers and using that as a sort-of grift to promote his masterclass. That's about all I see in terms of his "high school science" acumen. That being said, in fairness he would be up to task to be sure.
Neil is the best ambassador for science to the general public that there is today, he is a spiritual descendant of Carl Sagan we need more guys like him and Carl.
Two guys who believe anything, and I mean anything is possible in the realm of theoretic physics (multiverses, infinite possibility theory, 11+ dimensions, etc) BUT, scoff at the possibility of a creator to the universe (God)...for that, I scoff at their pretentiousness and pomposity, as well as their hypocritical 'it's okay to believe in anything you can imagine, EXCEPT God' standpoint.
Sagan's eloquence and deeper cogency can't really be found in Neil. Perhaps he shouldn't have turned Sagan down all those years ago. Some of Sagan's greater cosmic romanticism might have rubbed off on him, to the benefit of us all.
This is very impressive! The "minor" tidbit they keep leaving out from these newscasts, is that it took 500MJs to power the LASERs to create the fusion reaction. So, although the fusion reaction required to start the "ignition" process was 1.5MJ and we got 3MJ out, they keep forgetting to mention the 500MJ needed to power the LASERs.
So it took 1mj for the reactor but we got out 3 which in reality is 2.5 mj because we used another 500m to power the laser ? I’m assuming the 500 is of less value or we essentially turned on a little light with the power of the sun but it cost a Tesla battery?
@@fu1ck1you equilibrate is a word. It's used a lot in Chemistry, but it's in in the English lexicon. spaghettification is a term used in astrophysics to describe what happens near the event horizon of black holes. It's not a Neil word. It's less that he's inventing words, and more that you're discovering the depths of your ignorance.
this lab is in partnership with CAL Berkeley. I earned an MSc in Biochemistry there. It''s such an incredible place, this comes as no suprise to me. They have some of the brightest working there. That university is top notch when it comes to physics and chemistry. Would recommend to anyone.
@@johnnastrom9400 Come on, the guy is just being positive. It would be amazing if Feynman was alive to comment on this. I have a math and cs degree, btw.
Ugh... I get so tired of "they said blah blah blah . . . decades ago and it didn't happen!" Complaining about humans making bad predictions, and then using _that_ to _predict_ that things will fail is the definition of futility.
It's grant time💰 I would be very happy to be wrong. The saying "the boy that Cried Wolf" will be replaced with " the scientist that cried sustainable fusion ".
@@dafrasier1 steam is highly efficient in turning heat into electricity. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Fusion does not create free electrons, so we need a way to convert the heat produced by it into electricity and steam turbines are a great method.
We have picked a lot of low hanging scientific and technological fruit in last 170 years. Most of our most important discoveries were made before 1960s. According to Pareto principle, further progress is dealing with much harder problems (like this fusion or energy storage density or true AI or space colonization) and it will take us long time to make progress on all that. That is natural. But this event is a major inflection point.
There are at least three programs currently indicating they are close to having a demonstration fusion reactor up and running in the next three years. If any of those three can demonstrate they can produce more power output than input, they'll have a leg up. The question is how much and what type of resistance will they encounter from the fossil fuel industry and the environmental movement.
There won't be pushback. A pivot to new energy is coming and they know it. They're getting ready to invest in the technology and they will likely train the work force that will build it.
As an environmentalist (I guess), the only thing that worries me about fusion energy is the prospect of "unlimited power" to "fuel capitalism". That's not good news for planet Earth. We should scale _down_ our "exploitation" of "natural resources", not increase it. The biodiversity crisis doesn't get as much attention as the climate crisis, but it too threatens our existence. With great power comes great responsibility. We don't seem to be a very responsible species.
The magnetic containment required for plasma.... is also the key to (for lack of better terminology) the ability for 'tuning' gravity in propulsion.... and thus how UAP's move seemingly devoid of normal atmospheric friction/gravity effects on the 'mass' of objects.
I'm not sure if this is true but I just read that they used 2MJ laser to produce 3MJ output which sounds great but they also mentioned that they used 200MJ to power up that 2MJ laser. Then it doesn't sound so good any more. Does anyone have more info about it?
Correct! This is just a small step in the journey of fusion energy. The energy required to ignite the reaction is tremendous, and the return is low. But we hope to maintain the return of energy to pay back the ignition cost and then continue running the reactor. (And, well, making the return more efficient wouldn't hurt either) Our current tech is similar to making sparks. It takes a lot of energy to start a fire, but then all it requires is easily accessible fuel.
Didn’t you watch the news conference.. all you need to know is that there was more output than input. Getting a net gain, even if it was a small amount, currently there’s no other energy system or energy source in the world that can do this.
@@Editthem But that's his point. There wasn't an actual net gain. They haven't told us the whole story. It actually took 400MJ to create the lazers which in turn created a concentration of 2MJ to create fusion, and the output was 3.15MJ. This is what wasn't in the conference. Look in to it.
@@trevordelaney3144 the purpose of the experiment to prove a successful capture of the nuclear fusion reaction was the input of the 2MJ and output of 3MJ. Clarifying the other factors is just to tamp down the expectations that this is the endgame. Basically a HUGE scientific discovery was made with this announcement proving that it is possible to achieve a capture of a net positive in nuclear fusion. You can akin this to like the discovery of atoms. But like Neil said, this will now boil down to an engineering problem. How do we scale it up? Can we make it more efficient? Can we get that reaction to happen 10X in a few seconds and continue doing that for extended periods of time? Thus, overcome all the other energy it took to start up the initial input/output. It’s so exciting to just know it has been done, but we are a long way away from practical applications.
how will it do that? The world's problems are caused by selfishness, greed, xenophobia and hatred (hence the exitance of Fox) how will cheap energy change the political right's nature and make the world better? Will it create universal respect for or Universal healthcare or universal respect for scientific truth (looking at you there De Santis)? I think not. But it might make AR15s and body armour cheaper, so that's a win for the GOP and its private army.
They've got the physics down. Now, we just need to wait for the Engineers to make it tangible. A few years to a decade. Let's see what the future beings.
@@davidchang5265 Considering there's already functioning Tokamak reactors that can't sustain a reaction (which this solves), you should end up a rich man.
Maybe they could have had this years ago but the implementation of it would have destroyed or harmed so many other industries that we weren't ready for it. I'm just speculating because so much in this world revolves around the ability to employ people and make money for the economy to thrive.
My cousin is an engineer who worked in the Princeton Fusion project. He thought Nuclear fusion would replace fission in the future but we had not figured out how to use it, and maybe we never would. He says We don't have to worry about another meltdown like Chernobel
@@danmccarron0 Yeah Neil believes nothing created everything. Then there is the eternal universe, where matter and energy is from everlasting to everlasting, just like God. Neil is religious because he has Faith in things that can't be seen or proven.
Well, he's thoroughly wrong about the current state of fusion research. On the other hand, wrongness doesn't seem to bother people when the wrongful one is charismatic.
Big step forward but as NDT said the engineers will have to design a system where this excess thermal energy can boil water, create steam and turn a turbine. Once that happens, there will be mega jobs setting these things up everywhere. Automobiles did take over for horse and buggy, steam engines did take over for sailing vessels, but the majority transition did take decades.
The crazy thing about fusion is that there is theoretically a way to directly extract energy from the system without turbines. I don't know the specifics of the concept (you can find it if you look for it) but it's being worked on by some big minds with a lot of money and would be a huge step in human energy production.
That, and the problems were much simpler to tackle. People discount the tremendous complexity of contemporary engineering, which is not to discount the imagination and aptitude of past engineering, but to cast current issues in realistic light.
if this is achieve, and we get more energy than invested , then its will be self sustainable, its would be idiotic to use any other type of energy even natural solar would be a thing of the past, of course unless harnessed at the source with a dyson sphere, anyway im getting of point, this energy would be cheaper than any other and with no waste being produced... its a no brainer even solar would be more harmful to the environments
@@gerardovelazquez724 natural solar, wind, and hydroelectric power will still exist with fusion. This solves our reliance on non-renewable energy sources like coal, oil, and even nuclear fission (which is far better than the first 2), but our energy grid still needs to be backed up by other means in the event of failures. A civilization can’t rely on one single source of energy, it must use all the resources around it.
Hopefully this will get everyone fighting about which power source is more efficient & environmental friendly to start finding common ground. Seriously, this is great news. Being able to control & contain nuclear power without potentially any to little waste or spill is absolutely amazing.
But this is the most critical hurdle. The next one is pushing the fossil fuel industry out of the way so we can move forward and implement energy solutions using this new discovery
Also a great thing is the breakthrough uses laser compression to sustain fusion. Past attempts tried magnetic containment using Tokamaks, which would take at least 20 years to scale into usable levels. Laser compression on the other way can be feasible at a large scale within years if we are lucky. Many scientists give about 20 years estimate, but in my opinion it is too conservative.
yup - photon-plasma interactions have been the more feasible path so far...wasn't nearly possible with laser technology prior to the 2000's, which was the reason for the need for tokamak-like devices, and hence the standstill.
magnetic confinement reactors are pretty much at the same stage of progress as laser confinement. The decision about which gets turned into power plants will simply rest on which are cheapest to build and easiest to operate. Would be nice to live another 50 years to see what happens, it's possible - but not very likely.
@@michaeldavison9808 it will require some combination - the LHC and Tevatron are a testament to the fact that magnets (and the field regions) can be made arbitrarily large, but lasers do not seem to scale to industrial levels as easily. So I speculate that it will depend on whether you are putting it in a submarine or the center of a city.
Exactly. Without division, inclusive populism will result joining enough citizens throughout the West to properly call to account our super predatory elites. Perish the thought....
Yes, because they will assert that "our" energy must be "managed" by "responsible leaders." Expect it to be used to lock down autonomy, not to free us. PS: …and I should have saluted you for the astute observation.
@@kathyd1010 and Mr. Wizard had no formal education. What's your point? My point was, they weren't able to cut it in their field, so they became actors/showmen instead. And the thing is, Mr. Wizard was probably the brightest out of the three above.
Not a moment to lose. I guess what might be on the minds of viewers is how much surplus energy divided into cost. Kudos to the physicists. We needed them now more than ever
We all need to acknowledge what an historic moment this is. Fox Business has brought on a black man to talk about something other than sports. This is world changing.
@@kreek22 No, fantasy just science. Not a leftist either. You can take your political cap elsewhere. You probably believe the earth is flat and we didn't go to the moon.
@@davidsteiner7155 Tyson is a supporter of the trans movement, which I don't consider political, just a medical atrocity. You, however, are a zombie who doesn't know what science is--or logic. Wake up, all you zombies.
I love how she uses her eyeglasses as part of her trademark. More people should do this with other things like hearing aids, knee braces, dentures, wheelchairs, crutches, etc. If part of your body works in a sub-optimal fashion, and you require some sort of implement to correct or compensate for the impairment, you should definitely wear it boldly on your sleeve like its a fashionable part of your identity. Make it part of your brand. So hip. So trendy.
Actually, fusion produces a lot of neutrons and these can interact with some isotopes to make them radioactive. Unfortunately these isotopes can be found as impurities in the "blankets" that contain the fusion. So that is a problem to be solved.
True but the water vapor isn't the source of the problems. Water vapor doesn't impact climate change on it's own. It can't. There is a limit to how much water vapor the atmosphere can hold, and then it just starts to rain. Temperature determines how much water vapor the atmosphere can hold. However, what happens is that the other greenhouse gases don't condense into water and rain like water vapor does. So those gases do continue to heat the atmosphere by trapping more heat. Then, as that happens, more water vapor is also able to remain in the atmosphere too. Because of the higher temperature. So together it creates a positive feedback type of loop. However, more clouds and rain cycling a higher volume of water through the water cycle may have a cooling effect. It is very hard to model accurately.
Whether you believe fusion generated power is practical and cost effective or not, I still wonder why we haven't pursued thorium salt reactors, a technology well understood since WWII, when it was developed as part of the Manhattan Project.
I give it 10-15 years. Now that it’s been demonstrated we CAN in fact generate net gain energy, which was a really big problem for a long time, people are gonna be all over fusion now. It’ll be a gigantic race to build the first large-scale fusion reactor capable of powering cities; either China or the US will develop the first few.
Yes, Fusion energy will someday power society but that doesn't mean fossil fuels will be gone forever. Fossil fuels are used for thousands of other purposes and until the chemical content is over come with something new, fossil fuels will be around for the next hundred years.
@@kimoandrews5802 That's so funny. You really should observe how much money is made by people outside the GOP with the FF industries. And don't wear blinders when you're looking.
All petroleum products, paraffin, plastics, tar and bituminous materials used in construction. Even setting aside the energy aspect of fossil fuels, we'll still be using them quite a bit, but that being said having more people using less fossil fuels reduces the cost of those fuels, since more of those fuels will be available and there's a feedback loop that happens because of this, where the more we rely on renewables, the less we rely on fossil fuels, the price of fossil fuels goes down as less people purchase them and since they need to be produced as a bi-product of making other goods, those goods go up in price as fossil fuels go down in order for those companies to make a profit.
@@Nanamowa doesn’t necessarily work like that. The carbon chains used for gasoline aren’t the carbon chains used for diesel aren’t the carbon chains used for plastics. Gasoline was a byproduct when “coal oil” was first starting to be used. They had to invent a use for it.
The energy of the Sun! So they put 2 Mega Joules in and got 3 Mega Joules out. However, it took 300 Mega Joules to energize the lasers that delivered the 2 Mega Joules. Either this becomes more efficient with scale or it has a bit of self-sustaining capability and only needs a little bit of energy to keep in under control. Seems like there is alot of engineering to be done to take this to a usable solution. If only there was an existing and affordable way to harness the energy of the Sun...
@@ryancappo it's a single shot. Happens in the blink of an eye, the thing is setup with a laser target called a holraum, which is a gold plated little thingy that contains the nuclear fuel target. It's vaporized and imploded with high energy lasers. You might be able to recover some gold after 200k shots, the inside of your reactor might get plated eventually
I watched the interview with person who was the head of the organization that did the project. He said that they did NOT INCLUDE the power consumed by the 192 lasers used for the testing. It was not a gain in power actually produced!
The lasers operate at about 1% efficiency. The energy powering the lasers is not include in their "net gain" calculation. As such I suggest no one hold their breath waiting for a real "net energy gain!
@@kimbalcalkins6672 I was reading an article on the LLNL website that told how much energy powered the lasers and you’re right. In the test, 2.05 MJ was delivered to the target, but the lasers consumed something like 225 MJ. This seems like more of a political announcement than a scientific one. I worked at LLNL as a college intern in 1989 and visited the laser fusion building while I was there. I predict we have as much time yet to go until this is commercially viable.
The movie “Chain Reaction’ with Keanu Reeves comes to mind when I heard of this. Amazing discovery, but in reality, will this ever come to fruition considering how this WILL affect our economy and the BIG money and people behind it all? Your thoughts?
The only difference is in the movie they use sonolomenisence which is basically sound waves passing through a bubble of air causing it to oscillate and this then leads to extremely high temperature whereas in reality they used laser hitting radioactive isotopes of Hydrogen.
Just like going bankrupt; practical application of this technology will proceed slowly, and then very quickly. It simply takes time to overcome the engineering hurdles inherent in new technology before it becomes practical for general use.
So much of the geopolitical turmoil in the world comes from who has access to energy supplies and who needs/wants/takes away those supplies. When you take that out of the equation, the world becomes much safer. The fuel for a fusion energy plant would be seawater which is in such abundance that no countries will have to compete with each other. The cost of energy will come down and more resources will be focused on fighting hunger or health issues, better education, better transportation, etc. This is absolutely a potential game changer for our planet.
Fusion energy is almost here!! Maybe we will have it next year! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I laugh because this is what the fusion community has been saying for the last 40 years.
Politics aside. This is a win for humanity.
Only if we spread it to the entire world and don't let one country/organization/set-of-humans control it.
Everything is politics. Saying, "I want to save the planet" is fundamentally political. You're alienating the people who don't want to save the planet.
Sadly, this seems to be a press release that says "Pretty soon, we'll have a press release."
Look into it, before you count your chickens... and youll understand the " why and when " they just dropped this. Nothing is as it seems anymore.
@@bill5316 My thoughts exactly. Abundant, decentralized and cheap energy is the opposite of what the globalists want...so this is either a ruse, or it will be buried.
We're still YEARS away from fusion as a practical energy source... However, every step forward is a step in the right direction. I hope I can see it in my lifetime.
Decades at least, probably centuries.
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@@richb2229 more funding and it would only be decades
No, it won't take that long. Once engineers get their hands on it and start messing around, you're going see rapid change.
@@nyteshayde1197 Easier said than done to design, build, create safety protocols, revise, etc for fusion processes that are complex to manifest into something viable and cost effective.
Hell even the storage of plasma is complex. Good luck. I give it at least a few decades.
Can’t believe we went from banging rocks together to make fire to literally harnessing the power of a star. What a time to be alive.
🦟‼️🦟‼️dude I literally banged two rocks together yesterday and it was awesome what is your problem
That's what my grandfather said, when he came here in 1903, and the wright brothers flew the first plane!
Yeah
Have you taken the vaxx?
@@themalaailaanaa1347 How did you jump from fusion to vaccines? Big leap. Not even near the topic.
I was fortunate enough to take an astronomy class in 1987 at the University of Maryland in which Neil deGrasse Tyson was the guest lecturer that semester. It was definitely one of those classes that you wanted to go to.
@ TAFKAEH Mr. deGrasse joins showmanship talent and scientific knowledge. That is why he appeals to the masses but if you studied basic physics before getting into astronomy, you would know that the principle of conservation of energy is unshakeable while Mr deGrasse is skillfully using his words to make believe the general public that it is possible to get more energy out than you put in. The interviewer may not know that but a scientist with integrity should carefully explain that the simplistic interpretation given on the video is not what really happend in the lab.
Which only means you don't know much about him.
Couldn’t get a word in
How could you take a class in 1987 if you weren’t born until 2233?
Great, more information from the celebrity who still denies the existence of UFOs', even after the military released the proof.
Zero interest in the opinions of Mr. deGrasse.
This self-important man has more interest in his own opinions than in recognizing proof in science.
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If the world were shown more physics, science, engineering and technology advancements , perhaps some young great minds could be inspired contribute the advancement of humanity instead of what we’re currently being shown;
Sports, entertainment politics and war.
This brings up my question. How will the military-industrial complex use this? And with that politicians?
Unfortunately, for real science and engineering, you can't count on feelings or group think. It's so hard for snowflakes.
Carbon isn't the problem, lying about it is. Fear mongering.
You're shown whatever you want in most of the world, did YOU contribute to the advancement of humanity today? 🤪
@@nunyabusiness5075 No. My contribution is limited to being kind and caring to humanity. It’s nothing when compared to that of those physicists and engineers who have used such knowledge for geopolitical dominance.
Well, imagine all the money saved if we didn't go to war, or if we had no profiteering companies where profits are all that matters. Of course a certain amount of defense spending would be needed, but if we all focused our efforts toward human and world betterment we would be a much happier and advanced civilization. We have instead profiteering, and so a vast majority of our engineers are spent trying to get you to waste your time by being addicted to a game or your phone or screen in some way. Politicians maintain their power by outraging and dividing the people. It's quite a shame.
Been praying ages for this. Hopefully the States puts all the effort needed to see it's fruition.
This is literally like when people were finally able to make fire, before that nights were cold. Now we are at the beginning of harnessing fusion, millions of times more powerful to make electricity. We knew we could make more energy with fusion, and now we all know it's possible.
Calm down they have only performed an experiment not an actual application for a power station.
@@bighands69 Getting a net energy gain for the first time in history after just 60 years of research is monumental. Don't underrate this huge achievement just because it's not a commercial reactor yet. It took us over 200 years to figure out solar power and a similar amount of time to figure out batteries. We're going at a crazy pace right now and I'm here for it.
@@bighands69
Half the size of a bb they said. Imagine going bigger soon and or scaling up. It's going to be amazing.
@@SubtleHawk solar isn't cheap and either is batteries
There are over 50 fission reactors being built and over 100 fission reactors planned. It will unfold over decades.
Are they wasting a gazilion dollars for an obsolete technology???
this is gonna be so awesome, can’t wait to hear the discoveries
As a retired material scientist, I have been following this "HOLY GRAIL" of ENERGY (though not really FREE🤣🤣) generation from controlled FUSION. This is an epic moment just like the FIRST DEMO of TRANSISTOR, CONNECTED COMPUTERS which led to the internet, etc. Well done by the brilliant team at NIF of course with the bold investment by DOE&DOD with our TAXES. This is the sort of science that has just WORLD changing implications and WE THE PEOPLE OF the USA should be very proud and supportive of such work for solving BIG&DIFFICULT TECHNOLOGY PROBLEMS
agreed this is what taxes should be used for, preparing for the future
Thought you were sending an encrypted message with all those captalized words 😂
It is a waste of research dollars that is less worthwhile than the transmutation of distilled water into gold, which is more economical with current fusion technology and any future advances in fusion than the production of energy ever could be. That is to say, both of them are useless.
The reactors are even more radioactive than fission reactors unless they have this magic pixie dust fuel called helium-3 that is effectively impossible to get in even gram quantities. The only way to get it in decent quantities involves mining the moon, which is a ridiculous proposition. The reactors have an issue where the superconductors needed for field containment spontaneously stop superconducting, which effectively turn the reactors into bombs. Also, the timeline for maybe producing a reactor that is net energy positive keeps slipping by decades. The entire thing is a scam orchestrated by the physics community.
It would be nice if journalists asked Dr. Tyson about how the physics community solves the radiation problem with fuels that we can actually obtain (they do not). Saying it is an engineering problem is a cop out. That is like saying that going to another galaxy in your lifetime is an engineering problem. It is an insurmountable problem. Also, asking him about the problem of the field containment spontaneously failing from the superconductors spontaneously failing to superconduct would be interesting too, although I suspect he will say it is an engineering problem, despite nobody knowing why it happens.
All efforts here would be better spent on photovoltaic research, which could give us more energy than we could possibly use for centuries. It is better known as solar energy and unlike nuclear fusion, it is not a scam.
Right here is the radioactive heart of the matter (pun intended).
How do you know what it is? He just said it hasn't actually been disclosed yet chicken little.
You know it’s big when Neal DeGrasse is giddy, as if he is a child before a birthday. 🎉
On fusion energy, he has little idea what is actually happening in the field.
@@kreek22 guarantee he has more idea than you, tiny nobody
@@ryantogo8359 Charismatics turn people like you into zombies. Well, at least we get a few dumb Hollyweird shows out of you sub-humans.
Human wisdom..... the irony of our downfall
@@Nathan-hc2bb Really? So you prefer ignorance or all human wisdom is in your bible?
Best succinct description. What I hear them saying (betwee the lines, but not saying) is that fusion is unstable and can explode, just without all of the residual effects. The difficulty it seems, in fusion is maintaining stability, so you may have outages or explosions. I look forward to learning more.
Read the scientific data! I have! I had to take a course in physics lol but it makes sense! No explosion whatsoever
@@lgonzalez1154 Well that is great news then, if there is no unstable explosions involved. Thank you for sharing. Also, please point me to that scientific data you found.
We cannot even imagine 100 years from now, or even just 25 years!
Nothing will change
@@bidensucks2922 Spoken like a typically narrow-minded, unimaginative conservative.
@@bidensucks2922 average low iq individual who believes they live at the peak of technology
That’s why we need to save our democracy now!
How ignorant. Compare technology from 25 yrs ago to now
I love listening to NDT, especially when he's on Rogan's show. He makes insanely complicated scientific concepts and technologies understandable for someone who didn't go to MIT or have some scientific background
A lot of stuff he tells Rogan is wrong. And Rogan's listeners tend not to notice. So it doesn't seem like he imparts understanding.
@Hollister David Give an example of what he was wrong on. And please do not respond with something that physicists disagree on.
@@HopDavid "Rogan's listeners tend not to notice" lol are you kidding me? look at the comments section on one of neals videos on rogan, its just everyone roasting on him and rightfully so.
@@zeffez8161 (Doing a search for the Rogan interview where Neil tells Joe some infinities are bigger than others...) Oh my gosh, you correct. There are a lot of people dogpiling on Neil for his incorrect explanation.
Maybe I should stop dissing Rogan's fans.
@@HopDavid You should see the "joe rogan recommends lex fridman" clip, Neil really shows his true colors there its kind of insane
Fusion as an unlimited energy source is never going to happen. Anything remotely considered, as a practical use of Fusion, is also a pipe dream.
To be able to sit down with him for an hour and talk about physics would be so much fun.
Call him and ask if you could visit his house. I bet he would welcome you with open arms. 45 minutes talking and 15 minutes pillow fighting. Best day of your life. Act now!
If you can handle being treated like an idiot and being disregarded and interrupted relentlessly haha. Watch him on Joe Rogan, it's rough. So yeah, try the pillow fight instead, better way to spend the night
@@FatTracksMusic If you think you're not an idiot when around NDT, you're an idiot all the time.
He isnt as smart as he sounds. He has an agenda.
@@kanttarellivaara 😂😂😂😂
Nice to see a fox comment section that’s positive
That is one in a million.
It's educational without hatred and I I I'm fallliiinnggg out of my chair !
@@Gogalen789
Don't get used to it.
They will go back to being pro ignorance fasc!sts tomorrow.
You go to hell, loser! 😉👍
I'm not so sure about that. For a moment I was surprised to see Degrasse selling this on Fox and the presenter seemed all the willing to talk about it but then the moment he starts condemning fossil fuels by name she shuts him down.🤔
It's just another stalling tactic. Since the first tokamak (fusion reactor) was built in 1958 it became a joke that fusion on tap would be decades in the future. And the latest briefing is again that it will be decades before this new tech can be useful for the grid. The materials needed for the process are too rare for any regional let alone global power supply. That's too late for the climate crisis. The oil markets will love this news bc they know it will distract people from the need to invest in already reliable renewables.
As someone majoring in Power and Energy (Electrical subfield) Engineering, I'm excited for what the future of energy consumption looks like
Watch the forbidden truth! 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥👀🔥
Oh it’s gonna change everything alright. Especially since it’s going to be controlled by the government. Time to go fully off grid.
Buy that book. I bought a signed copy the other day and not only is it a treasured possession memento wise, it is genuinely a good read that makes you feel small. Which is good. ♥️
I agree!
That "BREAKTHROUGH" is 30-40 years OLD!
He pushing a book!
Pretty sure it happened yesterday
Observation: Just one Neil deGrasse Tyson can power an average-sized American city for 30 years - let's just build more of him...
Agreed!😊
National treasure and resource that man.
@HandbrakeBiscuit The announcement of this undeniable scientific achievement is rightly deserved but obscured by the fact that it gives the public the false impression that the basic law of conservation of energy has been defeated. Mr deGrasse should have clarified by giving an honest explanation to the word play taking place, that it is impossible to breach that law and that the offcial version leaves some things out. Any physics undergrad knows that if it was possible to get more energy than what is put in means that the universe as known to us cannot exist.
Lies again? Dallas Bull S**t Deaf Blind
You would need a Neil deGrasse Dyson (sphere) to do that (if you get what I mean)..
I Been trying to learn this forex trading So I wanted to buy Bitcoin and trade on my own
but I still can't grasp the entire concept
So you suggested trading on your own without guidance from an expert or professional going to work?
I have incurred so much losses trading on my own.I trade well on demo. But I think the real market is manipulated. Can anyone help me out or at least tell me what l'm doing wrong
Obviously trading in the financial market is very volatile and risky to trade that's the reason most investors trade with a professionals
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I think I heard that
name. I saw her success story on a news blog but didn't give it much attention, she must be extremely good for people to talk good about her services
I would to shake this man's hand for Christmas. He is so awesome.
Watch the forbidden truth! 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥👀🔥
Neil DeGrifft Tyson will bandwagon anything mainstream science
This is going to help so many people, republicans and democrats and all people everywhere. A huge step in humankind, when this takes off we’ll be able to start reversing climate change, which is destroying the habitable aspects of our planet. We can bring animals back, people can start hunting and have those absolutely beautiful trophies on their walls again. This is going to be good for all of us. Every single one of us. Congratulations Humanity ❤
“Niel Degrasse Tyson the type of guy who will wake everyone up just to tell them he’s going to sleep”
Right…
He is such a phony.🤣😂🤣😂
Your a comment stealer. Attention much?
@@guyguyver7552 A phony with a PHD in astrophysics? Lmao.
@@menotyou7314 ...he is just another Bill Nye 7reak..😊
Love this guy how he explains joyfully complex things with very simple and easy to understand examples.
I bet he had a boner this whole interview
This doesn't much much because the power used for the laser is more than you get out... but the media loves a good "BREAKTHROUGH" story :)
Mr. Tyson is the high school science teacher we all should have had. He is awesome at presentation. Harnessing plasma with a electrified gyro sphere is similar to Doc. Oc from spider man "the power of the sun in the palm of your hand". A faraday cage is used to block energy from the outside. Reversing that same principle to "contain" energy is just awesome. The future is now... LOL (movie quote).
I don’t think so. I had excellent science teachers in high school. I don’t see Tyson as a high school teacher.
I didn't have Mr Tyson as a teacher at school, but I went to Mt Tyson state school, does that count?
Except a magnetic bottle for non-neutral plasma confinement is literally nothing like a faraday cage...
@@GH-oi2jf I agree - he has been successful at lampooning flat Earthers and using that as a sort-of grift to promote his masterclass. That's about all I see in terms of his "high school science" acumen. That being said, in fairness he would be up to task to be sure.
Nope. I hate his ego.
As soon as I heard the news, I was waiting for Neil
Neil is a legend.
Neil Tyson is such an animated speaker....love watching his explanations.
He has a hard time admitting when he’s wrong though
What a wonderful explanation from Dr. Tyson.🎉
Neil is the only human that could make me watch FOX..
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I can listen to Neil deGrasse the whole day
I might listen if he said stuff worth hearing.
This is all false Hope.
And be the stupider for it.
The scientist for non-scientists.
Happy to see a great channel like fox being a guest on Neil’s program
I couldn’t find the words to describe this “pairing” but you did lol
Several industries are going to try to squash this wonderment...guard it with great courage and fortitude!
Neil is the best ambassador for science to the general public that there is today, he is a spiritual descendant of Carl Sagan we need more guys like him and Carl.
Nothing spiritual about this guy in the slightest.
@@PrivateBackroom lol
Two guys who believe anything, and I mean anything is possible in the realm of theoretic physics (multiverses, infinite possibility theory, 11+ dimensions, etc) BUT, scoff at the possibility of a creator to the universe (God)...for that, I scoff at their pretentiousness and pomposity, as well as their hypocritical 'it's okay to believe in anything you can imagine, EXCEPT God' standpoint.
Sagan's eloquence and deeper cogency can't really be found in Neil. Perhaps he shouldn't have turned Sagan down all those years ago. Some of Sagan's greater cosmic romanticism might have rubbed off on him, to the benefit of us all.
Fusion could make the world a peaceful place no more war for energy.
People will always find reasons for war.
Somehow I doubt that.
It depends who is allowed to have this technology or is even able to build it with the resources they have.
or it will make war
Human nature is a problem.
This is very impressive! The "minor" tidbit they keep leaving out from these newscasts, is that it took 500MJs to power the LASERs to create the fusion reaction. So, although the fusion reaction required to start the "ignition" process was 1.5MJ and we got 3MJ out, they keep forgetting to mention the 500MJ needed to power the LASERs.
So it took 1mj for the reactor but we got out 3 which in reality is 2.5 mj because we used another 500m to power the laser ? I’m assuming the 500 is of less value or we essentially turned on a little light with the power of the sun but it cost a Tesla battery?
500 michael jordans
@@xavier440x 500 Mary Janes
I didn’t know the word equilibrate existed and now I’m going to use it regularly.
Its a term from chemistry
@@fu1ck1you
equilibrate is a word. It's used a lot in Chemistry, but it's in in the English lexicon.
spaghettification is a term used in astrophysics to describe what happens near the event horizon of black holes. It's not a Neil word.
It's less that he's inventing words, and more that you're discovering the depths of your ignorance.
The horse sound bite/ analogy was proof of a master at work
we may be a long time away but now this concept is in our grasp stunning
well we seem to going the route of hot air atm
this lab is in partnership with CAL Berkeley. I earned an MSc in Biochemistry there. It''s such an incredible place, this comes as no suprise to me. They have some of the brightest working there. That university is top notch when it comes to physics and chemistry. Would recommend to anyone.
We live in a time where Neil degresse still explaining science stuff to us, thats so lucky.
Nice for you, maybe. The rest of us got a science education when we were in college.
Yeah some of us already in high school- it’s kinda pathetic so many folks need it
@@johnnastrom9400 Come on, the guy is just being positive. It would be amazing if Feynman was alive to comment on this. I have a math and cs degree, btw.
Fusion is going to be so fantastic. “It will be the wave of the future when it is perfected in 20 years. “ said every physicist for the last 75 years.
and yet Still Steam Power. Fusion heat ?
Ugh... I get so tired of "they said blah blah blah . . . decades ago and it didn't happen!" Complaining about humans making bad predictions, and then using _that_ to _predict_ that things will fail is the definition of futility.
It's grant time💰
I would be very happy to be wrong.
The saying "the boy that Cried Wolf" will be replaced with " the scientist that cried sustainable fusion ".
@@dafrasier1 steam is highly efficient in turning heat into electricity. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Fusion does not create free electrons, so we need a way to convert the heat produced by it into electricity and steam turbines are a great method.
We have picked a lot of low hanging scientific and technological fruit in last 170 years. Most of our most important discoveries were made before 1960s. According to Pareto principle, further progress is dealing with much harder problems (like this fusion or energy storage density or true AI or space colonization) and it will take us long time to make progress on all that. That is natural. But this event is a major inflection point.
This is the type of NEWS this country needs more of
There are at least three programs currently indicating they are close to having a demonstration fusion reactor up and running in the next three years. If any of those three can demonstrate they can produce more power output than input, they'll have a leg up. The question is how much and what type of resistance will they encounter from the fossil fuel industry and the environmental movement.
there will be no pushback from the environmental community, this is them at their best.
France is working on a reactor that can 10x the energy input from the laser.
There won't be pushback. A pivot to new energy is coming and they know it. They're getting ready to invest in the technology and they will likely train the work force that will build it.
@@jtchaney310
Apart from those that do not want nuclear energy.
As an environmentalist (I guess), the only thing that worries me about fusion energy is the prospect of "unlimited power" to "fuel capitalism". That's not good news for planet Earth. We should scale _down_ our "exploitation" of "natural resources", not increase it. The biodiversity crisis doesn't get as much attention as the climate crisis, but it too threatens our existence. With great power comes great responsibility. We don't seem to be a very responsible species.
The magnetic containment required for plasma.... is also the key to (for lack of better terminology) the ability for 'tuning' gravity in propulsion.... and thus how UAP's move seemingly devoid of normal atmospheric friction/gravity effects on the 'mass' of objects.
They do that because the recordings are taken from moving jet fighters and the vast background of ocean and sky create apparent movement.
oh dear oh dear. Tinfoil hat for Bob please!
@@michaeldavison9808
Size 2 for Michael as well !
I'm not sure if this is true but I just read that they used 2MJ laser to produce 3MJ output which sounds great but they also mentioned that they used 200MJ to power up that 2MJ laser. Then it doesn't sound so good any more. Does anyone have more info about it?
Correct! This is just a small step in the journey of fusion energy. The energy required to ignite the reaction is tremendous, and the return is low. But we hope to maintain the return of energy to pay back the ignition cost and then continue running the reactor. (And, well, making the return more efficient wouldn't hurt either)
Our current tech is similar to making sparks. It takes a lot of energy to start a fire, but then all it requires is easily accessible fuel.
Didn’t you watch the news conference.. all you need to know is that there was more output than input. Getting a net gain, even if it was a small amount, currently there’s no other energy system or energy source in the world that can do this.
@@Editthem But that's his point. There wasn't an actual net gain. They haven't told us the whole story. It actually took 400MJ to create the lazers which in turn created a concentration of 2MJ to create fusion, and the output was 3.15MJ. This is what wasn't in the conference. Look in to it.
@@trevordelaney3144 the purpose of the experiment to prove a successful capture of the nuclear fusion reaction was the input of the 2MJ and output of 3MJ. Clarifying the other factors is just to tamp down the expectations that this is the endgame. Basically a HUGE scientific discovery was made with this announcement proving that it is possible to achieve a capture of a net positive in nuclear fusion. You can akin this to like the discovery of atoms. But like Neil said, this will now boil down to an engineering problem. How do we scale it up? Can we make it more efficient? Can we get that reaction to happen 10X in a few seconds and continue doing that for extended periods of time? Thus, overcome all the other energy it took to start up the initial input/output. It’s so exciting to just know it has been done, but we are a long way away from practical applications.
@@elivelazquez4729Yea fair enough I get ya👍
Hopefully in my lifetime this will become the breakthrough that helps save ourselves from ourselves
how will it do that? The world's problems are caused by selfishness, greed, xenophobia and hatred (hence the exitance of Fox) how will cheap energy change the political right's nature and make the world better? Will it create universal respect for or Universal healthcare or universal respect for scientific truth (looking at you there De Santis)? I think not. But it might make AR15s and body armour cheaper, so that's a win for the GOP and its private army.
it is called God
@@jeffhruska8626 Nope there is no invisible wizard flying around in the clouds.
They've got the physics down. Now, we just need to wait for the Engineers to make it tangible. A few years to a decade. Let's see what the future beings.
No, they don't, not even close.
I'll bet $10k there is no commercially-viable fusion reactor operating a decade from now.
@@toddrf 2 decades and id take that bet
@@davidchang5265 Considering there's already functioning Tokamak reactors that can't sustain a reaction (which this solves), you should end up a rich man.
@@kreek22 Didn't take long to transform a computer from the size of a skyscraper into your pocket. Don't underestimate human ingenuity.
My uncle had been working on this project for 20 years at lawerence Livermore. Pretty excited to see this
Oh wait, we have this breakthrough, and it will be available in 30 years. They said this 30 years ago about Fusion. Something sounds fishy.
Distraction.
I think this stuff is kinda hard.
It sounds "fishy" to you because you have no idea what Neil is talking about.
Maybe they could have had this years ago but the implementation of it would have destroyed or harmed so many other industries that we weren't ready for it. I'm just speculating because so much in this world revolves around the ability to employ people and make money for the economy to thrive.
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I had hope until I saw this post with Neil pumping the “breakthrough”. Now I know it’s a load of BS
Help humanity ? I thought the whole green new deal is to get rid of humanity , so dumb . Planet will only heal if you get rid of people , dopes
Everyone is pumping the breakthrough. Just because he is also speaking about it doesn't mean it's coming from him lmao. What a stupid thing to say.
My cousin is an engineer who worked in the Princeton Fusion project.
He thought Nuclear fusion would replace fission in the future but we had not figured out how to use it, and maybe we never would.
He says We don't have to worry about another meltdown like Chernobel
"Unlimited power!". That was an excellent impression of Emperor Palpatine.
Yeah i liked that reference. She's a nerd and i hope NDT and her made passionate nerd love together
I would love to buy NDT a beer and listen to him talk about science.
find better physicists - by "Astrophysicist standards" he's more like Bill Nye than Stephen Hawking (RIP) or Kip Thorne.
@@danmccarron0 Yeah Neil believes nothing created everything. Then there is the eternal universe, where matter and energy is from everlasting to everlasting, just like God. Neil is religious because he has Faith in things that can't be seen or proven.
He thinks the trans movement is reasonable...
@@kreek22 average FOX viewer
Yeah, he’s more of a bong guy
Now I really want to read 'The Starry Messenger.' Dr. Neil DeGrasse Tyson is one of my favourite non-fiction writers
Prob one of his best interviews . Humble
Well, he's thoroughly wrong about the current state of fusion research. On the other hand, wrongness doesn't seem to bother people when the wrongful one is charismatic.
Maybe time to watch PBS or BBC?
Big step forward but as NDT said the engineers will have to design a system where this excess thermal energy can boil water, create steam and turn a turbine. Once that happens, there will be mega jobs setting these things up everywhere. Automobiles did take over for horse and buggy, steam engines did take over for sailing vessels, but the majority transition did take decades.
The crazy thing about fusion is that there is theoretically a way to directly extract energy from the system without turbines. I don't know the specifics of the concept (you can find it if you look for it) but it's being worked on by some big minds with a lot of money and would be a huge step in human energy production.
@@Riskofdisconnect Interesting. I'll have to check that out.
That, and the problems were much simpler to tackle. People discount the tremendous complexity of contemporary engineering, which is not to discount the imagination and aptitude of past engineering, but to cast current issues in realistic light.
if this is achieve, and we get more energy than invested , then its will be self sustainable, its would be idiotic to use any other type of energy even natural solar would be a thing of the past, of course unless harnessed at the source with a dyson sphere, anyway im getting of point, this energy would be cheaper than any other and with no waste being produced... its a no brainer even solar would be more harmful to the environments
@@gerardovelazquez724 natural solar, wind, and hydroelectric power will still exist with fusion. This solves our reliance on non-renewable energy sources like coal, oil, and even nuclear fission (which is far better than the first 2), but our energy grid still needs to be backed up by other means in the event of failures. A civilization can’t rely on one single source of energy, it must use all the resources around it.
Hopefully this will get everyone fighting about which power source is more efficient & environmental friendly to start finding common ground. Seriously, this is great news. Being able to control & contain nuclear power without potentially any to little waste or spill is absolutely amazing.
I'll believe that they have solved the fusion problem when it becomes applicable, used and widespread.
Like nuclear facilities that generate electricity?
But this is the most critical hurdle. The next one is pushing the fossil fuel industry out of the way so we can move forward and implement energy solutions using this new discovery
@@Turn420 It’s not happening we can see next 20-25 years of lobbying , buying politicians to suppress this.
@@eon1779 ...Run a car.
@@Turn420 Sure...as soon as it's practical. I'm not holding my breath. We'll see. Miracle power sources are claimed every year.
A lot of hot air!
then shut your mouth.
Shut up dumbass.
Lets not have any science on Fox News
Brilliant presentation. If we had more teachers of this calibre, the cluelessness of this world would not stand a chance.
Also a great thing is the breakthrough uses laser compression to sustain fusion. Past attempts tried magnetic containment using Tokamaks, which would take at least 20 years to scale into usable levels. Laser compression on the other way can be feasible at a large scale within years if we are lucky. Many scientists give about 20 years estimate, but in my opinion it is too conservative.
yup - photon-plasma interactions have been the more feasible path so far...wasn't nearly possible with laser technology prior to the 2000's, which was the reason for the need for tokamak-like devices, and hence the standstill.
It is not a breakthrough.
I think the tokamak method is what their still going for, the laser facility was there to prove that a positive net gain was possible
magnetic confinement reactors are pretty much at the same stage of progress as laser confinement. The decision about which gets turned into power plants will simply rest on which are cheapest to build and easiest to operate. Would be nice to live another 50 years to see what happens, it's possible - but not very likely.
@@michaeldavison9808 it will require some combination - the LHC and Tevatron are a testament to the fact that magnets (and the field regions) can be made arbitrarily large, but lasers do not seem to scale to industrial levels as easily.
So I speculate that it will depend on whether you are putting it in a submarine or the center of a city.
As soon as we come up with free energy, we come up with something else we can control the population with.
Water
Exactly. Without division, inclusive populism will result joining enough citizens throughout the West to properly call to account our super predatory elites. Perish the thought....
Yes, because they will assert that "our" energy must be "managed" by "responsible leaders." Expect it to be used to lock down autonomy, not to free us.
PS: …and I should have saluted you for the astute observation.
hydrogen, you know, that thing useful for clean water supplies. along with oxygen, that other thing we really need.
@@michaelmcguinn7596
Yes?
It uses more energy to separate it and store then conventional energy sources
Finally. We're well overdue for Mr. Fusion
This is the type of tec you need to progress to a type 1 civilization
Politics aside, Tyson is a joy to watch. He really is passionate.
I put Neil in the TV scientist category. Same as Mr. Wizard, Bill Nye, and Dr.Oz.
Bill Nye is an engineer.. Dr Oz is a HEART SURGEON! Huge difference…
@@kathyd1010 and Mr. Wizard had no formal education. What's your point? My point was, they weren't able to cut it in their field, so they became actors/showmen instead. And the thing is, Mr. Wizard was probably the brightest out of the three above.
@@Hey_Blinkin
It is written:
There is nothing like an educated fool.
Except NDT is still actively doing his job lol not just tv shows and interviews
@@NahImPro you are correct, entertainment is his job now.
Not a moment to lose. I guess what might be on the minds of viewers is how much surplus energy divided into cost. Kudos to the physicists. We needed them now more than ever
We did NOT go from Horses directly to cars... we went from Horses to Bicycles to Cars.
Time to build a starship, a massive starship.
I’m glad he simplified it 😂
We all need to acknowledge what an historic moment this is. Fox Business has brought on a black man to talk about something other than sports. This is world changing.
I have goosebumps. This may be the biggest thing in my life time. Fingers crossed 🤞
You are easily manipulated by the lying media and lying charismatics.
@@kreek22 if it is hokum atleast I had a moment of hope for a brighter future. Prove this didn't happen and its a lie. Burden is on you.
@@davidsteiner7155 No. Live in fantasy land as it suits you. You'll be an honorary Leftist.
@@kreek22 No, fantasy just science. Not a leftist either. You can take your political cap elsewhere. You probably believe the earth is flat and we didn't go to the moon.
@@davidsteiner7155 Tyson is a supporter of the trans movement, which I don't consider political, just a medical atrocity. You, however, are a zombie who doesn't know what science is--or logic. Wake up, all you zombies.
I love how she uses her eyeglasses as part of her trademark. More people should do this with other things like hearing aids, knee braces, dentures, wheelchairs, crutches, etc. If part of your body works in a sub-optimal fashion, and you require some sort of implement to correct or compensate for the impairment, you should definitely wear it boldly on your sleeve like its a fashionable part of your identity. Make it part of your brand. So hip. So trendy.
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Yup. Pelosi should trademark the clacking dentures!😄
She’s suboptimal.
Jeez, you really don't like her glasses! 🤣
I can think of a particular combover that fits that bill.
Actually, fusion produces a lot of neutrons and these can interact with some isotopes to make them radioactive. Unfortunately these isotopes can be found as impurities in the "blankets" that contain the fusion. So that is a problem to be solved.
Water vapor is a GHG as effective as CO2 according to GHG Theory. There is 50 times as much water vapor in the atmosphere as CO2.
True but the water vapor isn't the source of the problems. Water vapor doesn't impact climate change on it's own. It can't. There is a limit to how much water vapor the atmosphere can hold, and then it just starts to rain.
Temperature determines how much water vapor the atmosphere can hold. However, what happens is that the other greenhouse gases don't condense into water and rain like water vapor does. So those gases do continue to heat the atmosphere by trapping more heat. Then, as that happens, more water vapor is also able to remain in the atmosphere too. Because of the higher temperature. So together it creates a positive feedback type of loop. However, more clouds and rain cycling a higher volume of water through the water cycle may have a cooling effect. It is very hard to model accurately.
welcome to the beginnings of a Quantum-flux Fuel Generator !! this is unequivocally an underrated breakthrough
It's not a breakthrough. Gell-Mann amnesia eats everyone.
4:44 what it’s like talking to your crush lmaoo
Whether you believe fusion generated power is practical and cost effective or not, I still wonder why we haven't pursued thorium salt reactors, a technology well understood since WWII, when it was developed as part of the Manhattan Project.
Salt is very corrosive. I think that's the major issue.
@@CarbageMan That was solved ages ago.
Hm.
@@OneWildTurkey no
maybe you could pursue it. Why have you waited all these years?
Sounds Great. I've been hearing about this all my life. I'll believe it when the first (FUSION) power station is up and running powering homes.
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That's what they are trying to do make it efficient
I give it 10-15 years. Now that it’s been demonstrated we CAN in fact generate net gain energy, which was a really big problem for a long time, people are gonna be all over fusion now. It’ll be a gigantic race to build the first large-scale fusion reactor capable of powering cities; either China or the US will develop the first few.
We need a sit down with Neil and Jordan
I could listen to Neil the rock star of science all day!
His "Startalk" youtube channel is absolutely fascinating
So could Neil 🤣
Neil's a fraud. can't believe you fall for his bs
@@RobertMJohnson youre right, astrophysics is just mumbo jumbo right?
Yes, Fusion energy will someday power society but that doesn't mean fossil fuels will be gone forever. Fossil fuels are used for thousands of other purposes and until the chemical content is over come with something new, fossil fuels will be around for the next hundred years.
@@kimoandrews5802 That's so funny. You really should observe how much money is made by people outside the GOP with the FF industries. And don't wear blinders when you're looking.
All petroleum products, paraffin, plastics, tar and bituminous materials used in construction. Even setting aside the energy aspect of fossil fuels, we'll still be using them quite a bit, but that being said having more people using less fossil fuels reduces the cost of those fuels, since more of those fuels will be available and there's a feedback loop that happens because of this, where the more we rely on renewables, the less we rely on fossil fuels, the price of fossil fuels goes down as less people purchase them and since they need to be produced as a bi-product of making other goods, those goods go up in price as fossil fuels go down in order for those companies to make a profit.
Maybe... but demand will reduce and will get to the point where it is no longer economically viable my guess is it will be much sooner than 100yrs.
D'accordo.
@@Nanamowa doesn’t necessarily work like that. The carbon chains used for gasoline aren’t the carbon chains used for diesel aren’t the carbon chains used for plastics. Gasoline was a byproduct when “coal oil” was first starting to be used. They had to invent a use for it.
The energy of the Sun! So they put 2 Mega Joules in and got 3 Mega Joules out. However, it took 300 Mega Joules to energize the lasers that delivered the 2 Mega Joules. Either this becomes more efficient with scale or it has a bit of self-sustaining capability and only needs a little bit of energy to keep in under control. Seems like there is alot of engineering to be done to take this to a usable solution. If only there was an existing and affordable way to harness the energy of the Sun...
I want to see it in mega watts of power units, or mega watt per hour units is even better.
@@ryancappo it's a single shot. Happens in the blink of an eye, the thing is setup with a laser target called a holraum, which is a gold plated little thingy that contains the nuclear fuel target. It's vaporized and imploded with high energy lasers. You might be able to recover some gold after 200k shots, the inside of your reactor might get plated eventually
So it's more of this inertial confinement malarkey... The target, or the holoram or whatever is GOLD PLATED.
Ignition is only the first step.
@@ryancappo it's about as much energy it takes for you to walk a little over two miles.
I watched the interview with person who was the head of the organization that did the project. He said that they did NOT INCLUDE the power consumed by the 192 lasers used for the testing. It was not a gain in power actually produced!
Neil loves Neil soooo much.
True.
And is there a problem with loving oneself? Self esteem books.. go read 'em
Can you imagine how "big & powerful" a structure would have to be to "ENVELOP FUSION"?
It would require a "NUCLEAR POWER PLANT!"
This is a huge step foward for humanity. Stuff like this gives me faith in humanity
All I can say is that I'll believe it when we have a commercial reactor operating as designed. Until then, I suggest no one hold their breath.
correct...
The lasers operate at about 1% efficiency. The energy powering the lasers is not include in their "net gain" calculation. As such I suggest no one hold their breath waiting for a real "net energy gain!
@@kimbalcalkins6672 I was reading an article on the LLNL website that told how much energy powered the lasers and you’re right. In the test, 2.05 MJ was delivered to the target, but the lasers consumed something like 225 MJ. This seems like more of a political announcement than a scientific one. I worked at LLNL as a college intern in 1989 and visited the laser fusion building while I was there. I predict we have as much time yet to go until this is commercially viable.
The movie “Chain Reaction’ with Keanu Reeves comes to mind when I heard of this. Amazing discovery, but in reality, will this ever come to fruition considering how this WILL affect our economy and the BIG money and people behind it all? Your thoughts?
Exactly that's what I said yesterday 💯
Life imitates Art more than Art imitates life. Wilde
The only difference is in the movie they use sonolomenisence which is basically sound waves passing through a bubble of air causing it to oscillate and this then leads to extremely high temperature whereas in reality they used laser hitting radioactive isotopes of Hydrogen.
Just like going bankrupt; practical application of this technology will proceed slowly, and then very quickly. It simply takes time to overcome the engineering hurdles inherent in new technology before it becomes practical for general use.
So much of the geopolitical turmoil in the world comes from who has access to energy supplies and who needs/wants/takes away those supplies. When you take that out of the equation, the world becomes much safer. The fuel for a fusion energy plant would be seawater which is in such abundance that no countries will have to compete with each other. The cost of energy will come down and more resources will be focused on fighting hunger or health issues, better education, better transportation, etc. This is absolutely a potential game changer for our planet.
Fusion energy is almost here!! Maybe we will have it next year!
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I laugh because this is what the fusion community has been saying for the last 40 years.
I'd say 70 years - although for most of that the estimate was 20 to 50 years away. No one in fusion research talks about next year.
Would have been nice if he pointed out the difference between laser light power in and fusion power out, and grid power in (that is the power to the
Inputted two megajoules and outputted three megajoules. What are you talking about?
Sir, 3MJ - 2MJ = 1MJ. It is as simple as that.
@@donalddade5643 it is not as simple as that
@@richlember Then please do explain.
@@donalddade5643 please look at the video by googling "how close is nuclear fusion power sabine hossenfelder"
Big win! Not only for humanity, but for the planet.
Also, the impact alone from the US becoming energy independent would cripple OPEC.
Ok …. Show me the money!
Getting neil to promote a topic is a mistake