Gear skeptic did a great video on this. If you're a little patient, you can turn the heat down to low medium, your fuel last at least double what it does at max setting.
@@TheMcspreader Gear Skeptic videos are for people who 1) Already know a lot and are looking to confirm their scientific assumptions, and 2) Desire to learn the reality of gear instead of the utter bollocks you'll get from the vast majority of outdoor RUclipsrs...
One of the big benefits of the Jetboil is its wind protection design. Really would've liked to see this indoors test used as a control, with a second test done outside for more real world conditions.
@@the_peefster You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
Love my Jet boil. Yes it might be heavier, it’s great for a weekend trip for me. I like your suggestion with sharing it amongst others at camp, as it cuts cooking time as well as fuel consumption. The smaller lighter ones are intriguing but, I like the stability of the jet boil as well as not needing a pot grabber so that I don’t burn my fingers.
I use the BSR with a Titanium pot and have enjoyed the simplicity of the system. It also breaks down into a really small size when packing up, which is important for a bikepacking setup. I did buy the orange fuel canister stand at REI for about $5, which does make the system much more stable. If anyone is interested in a Jetboil system, you can currently get one at REI for less than $100.
I'll never forget the time I was at a dry camp with only a litter and half of water, put 500 ml in my pot to make supper and just as it started boiling my pot tipped off the stove and spilled on the ground. Refilled and had a really dry hike the next day. It took me until about 3 the next day before I reached the next water source.
Ive been using my jetboil about 5 years. One of the reasons I prefer it is because I like the fact the fuel, fuel stand, cleaning sponge silicon hot mat/pot holder & pot support all consolidated inside the jetboil pot. Most of my hikes are only 15 to 20 mile hikes so the extra wait isn’t bad. Does seam like overkill on some hikes. I personally haven’t had any major issues with my ignitor.
I bought my first Jetboil almost ten years ago and it was a game changer. I pack a larger flash for the truck and pack a mini for the trail. A couple of times it's been Jetboil to the rescue with other backpackers due to fuel or stove failure.
Loved this one! Im currently staging for my 1st backpacking trip and have tons of Qs about gear. Dont want to spend/buy too much for 2 reasons: 1 - what if i dont like backpacking or cant handle carrying a load up hills. 2 - i know the best way to figure out what's best for me is to USE the gear. That way I will be able to tell what i really prefer. Anyhoo - just my 2 cents
I have the GSI Pinnacle Stove, and I think it is another great middle ground option that is a bit overlooked. It is $50 regular price, but I found it at Sierra for $28.
At my age (74) I must carry less weight on even overnight trips. I use my BRS on low power until the water steams then turn it up. This greatly improves fuel efficiency. The main design fault with BRS is the unnecessarily large gap between the flame and the pot. Another is the lack of a wind shield. I have also heard you can melt the pot stand off them if your pot runs dry while the burner is full on. Titanium pots are really limited to boiling water since as a poor conductor its easy to burn food. I therefore use a light aluminium pot which serves all purposes and improves boiling efficiency. Its cheaper than titanium too yet a similar weight. Everything including BRS, lighter, utensils, pot scrubber and gas bottle packs into my pot. I will only use a jet boil when I can borrow it from someone else in our party. It's way to heavy to be an advantage. Thanks Miranda for encouraging people to think about the pros and cons of jetboil versus BRS. Its been a worthwhile conversation and confirmed to me that for my needs BRS is more than adequate.
I have a JB Flash that I’ve had for many years. It’s very reliable and well used. More recently as I hike more I have a BRS and 750 ml titanium pot. My entire cook kit including fuel fits in the pot. I really like this set up. Also have a Trangia. It really just depends on what I’m doing and what I’m cooking.
I would choose the Jetboil because when I want food/hot drink I want it NOW. And because I am scared of having a smaller stove tip and getting burns while on the trail.
Great comparison and conclusion 🙂 I only started camping a few years ago and I've upgraded the tent, the mat, sleeping bag, got a ground sheet, etc but not my cheap own brand stove. Mainly because it came with a lightweight pot, a stand and a small stove. It does exactly what I need it to, admittedly not great in the wind but with a screen, it's all good. The Jetboil just seems too bulky and overkill for what I need.
My pick: The cheap burner, plus a knockoff heat-exchanger pot to accelerate the boil, plus 3d-printing my own tripod for the fuel canister for stability. Total outlay $53 plus an hour of print time, and I've got everything except the locking nubbins and the koozie.
Are you familiar with the JetBoil Stash? It’s relatively new and the best compromise! It works like a jetboil, but light like and ultralight pot/stove system. It’s awesome!! Also the fuel savings of a JetBoil add up in weight and money pretty quickly over time.
Great comparison and conclusions. I have both a JetBoil Minimo and a BRS setup, and use for different types of trips as you described. However, pro tip, I pair my BRS with the Toaks Light 700ml pot, which is a wider than average diameter at 4 1/2" (115mm), and it just feels much more stable. Love it!
I bought a Snowpeak Gigapower Light Max stove like 15 years ago, not sure they still make them, but it’s a good stove that weight 56.5 grams (so much less than some stoves but much more than a BRS stove). It’s a fine stove that serves its function well. I also use a Redbull can alcohol burner and the whole system for that including a fuel bottle and windscreen/pot stand weighs like 39.5 grams, and I made that whole system from repurposed items, so it was free except my labor. It’s not super efficient, but it’s super lightweight.
I've got a jetboil minimo 😍 and I absolutely LOVE IT. It has a shorter wider pot so that I can easily eat out of it and the valve is designed so thst you can actually adjust the flame to actually cook with it as opposed to simply boiling water. I can fry eggs and bacon or simmer a stew or soup it is extremely versatile (And so far knock on wood after 3+ years my peizo still works great 🤞) to me it is the ultimate backpack/camp stove.
You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
@@DominiqueB IME, that's mostly a theoretical concern, although I agree that it is worthwhile to feel the canister occasionally to be sure that your specific setup doesn't overheat in your specific environment. Heat mostly flows up rather than down (although it is possible to screw it up). Some people use a heat shield between the burner and the canister. I have never found it necessary, but I can see why a company selling a product might include such a thing. In the Winter, a little heat warming the canister is a good thing. Just don't over-do it. A more likely issue is overheating the TOP of the windscreen, which can get hot enough to melt (thin) aluminum.
I have both, but I like my Jet Boil because it came with a French press. Gotta keep the wife caffeinated. lol. I took the BRS out on a super windy trip, it worked, but took a while. For normal 2-3 night hikes, I will gladly take the jet boil. I also take the helinox chair, so I don't mind a little weight for luxury.
The BRS is great for the price. It's the rare exception to the "Light/Cheap/Good...pick two" backpacking gear conundrum. When I got into backpacking I bought two of them along with two Toaks pots for my son and I for about half of what the Jetboil system was going for at the time. That said they are not the most efficient stove on the market, so an argument could be made that for longer hikes something more efficient like the Windmaster is better because you don't have to carry as much fuel. I've recently picked up a Soto Amicus to try that out for a bit and will see how it goes.
My additional comment is if you’re going somewhere that you can’t resupply for a week ie like the Sierras then fuel savings might be an issue. Not crazy about how much room the Jetboil takes up in a pack as every square inch counts when taking long sections.
I've never paid more than $12 for a BRS stove. I have bought about a dozen of them too (I give gear to friends and family) Stove, pot (Toaks 550ml), and lighter (Bic Mini) come out to 106.2g/3.75oz and cost me $40.50. The Jetboil is bulky, heavy, and expensive. Plus you still have to carry a lighter since their piezo is essentially defective by design. So you lug around a broken piezo igniter plus a lighter for no reason. Sure, it boils faster, and uses less fuel but it costs 3 times as much, costs more than 3x as much, and takes up easily 2-3x the space too.
Great comparison video and good recommendations! I'm using an original Pocket Rocket from the first year they were available and an aluminum pot from at least 40 years ago when I needed a bigger pot for melting snow on my Svea 123. I guess old habits are hard to break-haha.
So, the Jet Boil is most useful after your 2nd glass of wine. Safety First! But about the Jet Boil suppose you in the back of beyond and you run out of fuel. Can you use the Jet Boil on an open fire??
My wife and I have an MSR Windburner (which is comparable to the Jetboil) as well as the Soto Windmaster and a BRS 3000. We take the MSR Windburner on longer trips because it uses half the fuel that either the Soto Windmaster or the BSR 3000 do and so we need only one fuel canister. On shorter trips, we take the Soto Windmaster because it is more fuel efficient in the wind than the BSR 3000 is.
There is a chinese copy of the SOTO Windmaster named Campingmoon XD-2F for $26 USD, which some reviewers find actually better than the original. It is certainly worth lookung at 😉 Also, there are some other pots with heat exchanger, and you can buy the canister stand separately. I believe it is possible to build a setup as efficient as the Jetboil for half the price and double the versatility 😊
Love my Jetboil Flash. If I need a lighter option, I would probably go for the Jetboil Stash (260g, sale price $112), but could just consider the Flash a luxury item.
MSR has a piezo you can buy that is separate from a stove small about the size of a small Bic lighter. If I remember correctly mine was like $9. And it works great I've had it for a year
Another suggestion that literally no American RUclipsrs ever seem to mention is Alpkit's Kraku stove. It weighs 45g, packs super-tiny, has a (working) piezo, and costs $30. Alpkit are a British company, but I'm 100% certain that they ship to the Americas. They're also super environmentally friendly and put much of their profits back into the environment and other charitable causes. They also have excellent warranties and after-sales service. I've used everything from their tents (British style, double-skinned: we have too much rain for single-skin tents) to their cookware, clothing and bikepacking equipment. All of their gear is comparable in quality to the leading brands, but at a significantly lower cost (including their very own knock-off of the Jetboil!). I'll be using their Kraku stove, titanium pot, merino clothing and other little camping knick-knacks on my PCT hike this year. Highly recommend to check them out.
The Alpkit Kraku is just a copy of this for a little more (both a copy of the Fire Maple Hornet). No working piezo. Edit: and made in China. So, might as well just grab the cheaper BRS that is also lighter, that is now probably the most ubiquitous backpacking stove out there.
@@jimyeats I've owned a BTS and a Kraku and the Kraku is far better build quality. Plus mine has a working piezo and has worked for me for 6 years now 🤷♂️
@@fcboomstick Send us a link then, because I am looking at the release articles for the Alpkit Kraku (it’s actually made for them by Fire Maple) and it doesn’t have a piezo. Nor would the weight be 45g if it did. 45g is the weight of the basic Fire Maple Hornet FMS 300t and the Alpkit Kraku without a piezo. Edit: and I’m not saying the Fire Maple isn’t a better product, or have a higher build quality, but those gains have limited returns when most people are just using the stove to boil water. So most opt for the weight savings of the BRS.
@@jimyeats sorry, yes, you are right, it doesn't have a piezo on the Kraku. I was confusing it with a Campingaz one I sometimes use - too many bloody stoves! Haha. Other than that though, very happy with the Kraku as it has proven to be more efficient than my BRS or my Campingaz (i.e. more cups of tea from a single canister). But really the Kraku was a side thought here: I just wish more RUclipsrs would pick up on Alpkit's gear as it's as good or better than half the stuff I see recommended over and over. I don't think I've heard anyone but Paul Messner even mention them on RUclips - if it wasn't for him I would never have known myself. One thing of theirs I haven't tried but would love to is their Jetboil knock-off (presumably also made by Fire Maple as it looks exactly like theirs?) because it's so much cheaper than Jetboil and has coffee press attachments etc.
My MSR Titan kettle/pot thingy is almost $100 CAD now. Makes the JetBoil Flash system seem not too bad. I'm still a PocketRocket Deluxe lover though haha.
A few years ago I did an experimental physics garage experiment with backpacking stoves. I measure the temp of 500mL or some known quantity of water at its steady state ambient temperature. Then I weighed my fuel canister. Then I boiled the water up to like 95C degrees or whatever my target was, and immediately shut off the stove. Because I knew the quantity of water I was using, and the starting and ending temperatures, I knew how much energy was needed to raise the temperature of the water to my target. I also could calculate the potential energy of the fuel (because those fuel cans have two fuels in them I had to figure out the mix's potential energy) because I knew the starting and ending weights of the fuel. So I could then divide how much energy it took to heat the water by the potential energy to calculate the efficiency in a standard way. That way you can compare different cook sets in a standard format; apples to apples.
I have two Jetboils and neither has ever failed to light with the piezo, I don't use them as much as Miranda has probably uses hers, and it would be so frustrating if it didn't work.
I would love to see product comparisons for dog camping/hiking gear. Like dog packs, booties, and any other helpful gear items. We’ve been wanting to take our fur babies camping and hiking but there’s so many gear options and it’s hard to know what is worth it or not
I use a alcohol stove for water and a twig stove for everything else. I don't understand the race to boil water. Plus i don't like not knowing how much gas is in the cans. They sound like a jet taking off.
Yes, but a lidded pot boils faster than a pot that is getting its lid lifted every 30 seconds you did not touch the jet boil lid at all!! I don't believe this was a share shakedown! Have you not been lifting the lid and it got to build pressure on the inside of the way it's needed I don't think it would've used as much gas or taken as long as it did
Jetboil seems like a good car camping stove. It would take a very very long time between resupplies before the fuel efficiency outweighed (haha) the excess... weight. My BRS AND the small size fuel canister AND a lighter AND folding spoon AND a bandana all fit inside my 650ml ti pot. The lightweight canister stand I added just goes in the food bag - anyone know a canister stand that folds up smaller? I'm in the market. The price difference is negligible over the expected life of the product. You'll burn way more cash on fuel in the long run than on either stove/set. I don't care anything about boiling in 2 minutes, 4 minutes, 10 minutes. I might start grousing about 20 minutes. I mean, I've used alcohol stoves. 4 minutes is ~blazing~ fast. Eventually I will knock over my pot on the BRS but it hasn't happened yet. It has with most other stoves I've used. Jetboil looks like a good hanging stove system for exposed ledges and snow caves. So yeah, use cases for both. Also, full blast without the windscreen heat exchanger thing wastes fuel. Blows lots of heat out and away from the sides.
When my sister and I went on the PCT I used a Pocket Rocket and she used the Jet Boil. I was so jealous of her Jet Boil once I saw it in action! The wind screen and the speed of boiling was fantastic. She had no regrets carrying it. I think both stoves are great in their own way but the Jet Boil sure is luxury.
I obtained a jet boil while I was on the PCT because someone just threw it away in a hiker box. At the time I was using the BRS 3000 and it took 14 minutes to boil some water the second time I used it. I could get it down to about 8ish minutes if I was really careful about where I put it but tbh wished I had brought my pocket rocket with me instead. After seeing just how fast the jet boil was I ended up putting it in the next hiker box. Never ended up buying another one...
I liked your conclusion on this one because there really is no one size fits all when it comes to gear like this. You absolutely hit the nail on the head that in a group setting on perhaps a shorter trip, the jetboil feels way more appropriate than say on a week+ trip on technical terrain where something like the BRS wins on weight. I've discovered something similar with down jackets as well where I am in the market for the lightest, most compressible jacket I can find to meet kit requirements on a mountain race where I'm using it as a layer. Many of the reviews on those jackets that are negative seem to come from people that don't have a proper understanding of the jackets use case, expecting it to perform in the cold as well as a much larger and heavier jacket.
the weight is really not much an issue when you consider you have to carry twice as much fuel with the brs stove if you did the week plus trip, then the weight is essentially the same...still have to consider the pot with the brs and the fuel can....the weight different is down to ounces...not much....i have both and the jetboil is exponentially more effective on week or longer trips...as a coffee drinker , adding the plunger to the jetboil is where the weight gets even more even as i dont have to bring a seperate item to make coffee , broken down it fits inside the jetboil pot with the stove, the fuel can ....end of the day, it saves carrying extra fuel, add the french press plunger at literally next to no weight, you get great coffee with out more bulk....the stability is what essentially seals the deal...
@@burnsidebobthorpe All fair points! I guess I was imagining more in the scenario like myself where I might be cold soaking meals and using a heated setup for coffee in the mornings. In which case even if I am using roughly 1.8x more fuel as demonstrated by Miranda, on a 198g canister I'd have to be going for more than 22 days before I ran out. In that time frame I'm usually either done, or would have passed though a place I could pick up more fuel as needed. Like I said originally I think there's a good argument to be made completely depending on the person and the trip needs.
Comparison video idea: We need to shine some love on the REI Air Rail sleeping pad. 1. It doesn’t feel like a pool toy. 2. The combo of air and insulation is perfect and thus you need not choose between them. 3. It is quiet and doesn’t sound like you are rolling on a bag of potato chips. 4. The rails actually keep you on the pad overnight. 5. The dual valves are well engineered. 6. The price point is very fair. Most pads fall in the 50, 100, 200, or 275 areas. The Air Rail is only 120. I’ve never worked for REI, but I’ve convinced 6 friends to get this pad, and no one regrets it. I’d hate for REI to discontinue it like they did to the Half Dome 1+ tent. I’d compare it to both foam and air pads of higher and lower prices. P.S. Can we add “This is my _____ gosh darn” patches to the store? Love the Channel!
Maddie of Beer In Beautiful Places had her stove with a pot full of boiling water tip over on her legs while thru hiking the Appalachian Trail last year. Always cook on the ground.
After using both the Jetboil and BRS, I settled on the Soto Windmaster. Great efficiency, decently light, and I can swap to the 3 or 4 prong pot holder as needed.
The jetboil is like the Americans spending a lot of money and effort to design a pen that can write in space and then the BRS is the Russians using a pencil.
@@Accurize2That's because the Soviet's response to any problem was never increasing efficiency, but always throwing at it more resources and manpower, until it stopped making sense.
I've had the Jetboil since it came out in the early 2000's. It's my primary cooking system because it just works, and is extremely efficient. The BRS and titanium cup would be a great ultralight option. On backpacking trips I used it for group cooking and it's worked great. Maybe a little heavy for some but the benefits are worth it to me.
I bought the jetboil when they came out, to heat my ration pack meals in the British army, something a small cup and BRS can't do. I too have a BRS and small 500ml pot for freeze dried meals, knowing in the back of my mind the BRS will eat my fuel twice as fast. It's shame people who make jetboil videos don't know how to use them, or what they are for....
The jetboil comes with a cozy, technically, since coozy is a portmanteau of "cool cozy". Oh shit sorry I thought this was Seth Meyers so I was offering a correction.
Bought a Grippi copy of the jetboil on Amazon for under $23 works great piezo igniter never fails. If you use the brs you need to weight the pot wind screen tank stand and on a longer trip the additional fuel you have to carry. By turning down the heat exchanger stove you can also reduce fuel consumption and therefore weight. For short trips a 100g tank can be used reducing weight for either stove. The Grippi stove was on sale regular price is about $45 . I bought a 2nd to carry in my truck.
BUT with that being said, you should look at the Jetboil Stash instead (their attempt at getting into the UL scene)! I feel like that would have been a better comparison to the BRS.
Great video, been doing this for years and i also own a jetboil (primarily for the sailboat). It's a good stove. BRS is also a good stove, I also have a couple MSR stoves, SnowPeak, trangia and fancee feast alcohol stoves etc. and they are all tailored to a specific purpose for me. I agree with others, U-do-U, just depends on the situation. They are all good stoves for my purposes.
I’ve got many stoves including the flash 2.0 jetboil. I’d probably say it’s my go to stove. I even take it on site to make myself a brew. I’ve saved every penny I outlayed on gas saving. So it’s a bargain now that I’m still using it and it’s paying me now 😂
I have the MSR windburner stove. It's heavy, but once you add in a pot, windscreen, and additional fuel for the pocket stove, I still prefer the MSR system.
I've been using a knock-off version of the BRS for a while now. For me, the size and weight make it a winner, but I'm pretty solidly in the ultra-light camp. That being said, one metric that you did not cover is what the overall system weight is for each; how much does the entire Jetboil weigh vs how much does the BRS + cookware weigh? We also carry a home made foil screen with ours, which doesn't add much weight at all, but I would factor it into any comparison. Finally, I can attest to the instability of cooking with the BRS-style stove. It's very difficult to set it up perfectly level, and I have had the pot slide off of the stove more than once. I've never been close enough to get splashed, but it is a bummer to lose some of that hard earned water, especially if I'm not camping near a water source.
I say it depends on what you’re doing when requiring the stoves. If I’m backpacking the BRS (which I use) is amazing. If you’re camping on a portal ledge climbing big wall the jet boil alllll the way. Edit: I purchased my BRS on Amazon for less than $16
I have the Soto Amicus and I love it! It has yet to fail and works well in windy conditions. It also comes with a handy cookset that a fuel canister can fit it. Pricewise it's between the BRS and Jetboil
Great job, thank you. I’m getting one of each. I’ve seen the jet boil at work at elk camp and as you mentioned, it works great with others ready to eat hearty especially after hiking for miles while on the hunt.
Very helpful, thank you. I am going to do a 100+ mile hike and trying to knock down my weight for the trip. Love my jet boil and its stability, but the weight!
''a full cook system''. made me laugh. hot water for instant coffee and a shot of honey. food is fuel. pack in your own dehydrated staples, some granola, and tins of sardines and surstromming. hi end food prep is taking time away from frisbee with the dog and the last rays of that awesome sunset. ''why spend money when you can spend time?''
Gas one makes an alternative to the 3000 T stove that is basically the same but it will simmer very well and the arms are slightly thicker. It’s still weighs about the same. My biggest gripe with the BRS is its inability to simmer. The gas one simmers very well.
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Gear skeptic did a great video on this.
If you're a little patient, you can turn the heat down to low medium, your fuel last at least double what it does at max setting.
Was looking for this comment. 100% solid info from him.
@@TheMcspreader Gear Skeptic videos are for people who 1) Already know a lot and are looking to confirm their scientific assumptions, and 2) Desire to learn the reality of gear instead of the utter bollocks you'll get from the vast majority of outdoor RUclipsrs...
One of the big benefits of the Jetboil is its wind protection design. Really would've liked to see this indoors test used as a control, with a second test done outside for more real world conditions.
I use rhe brs i just carry a windscreen i bought from naturehike, could damn near it in a gale
sooooooo many other channels have already done all those tests and more tho
@@d.2110 So you’re saying this video is unnecessary then?
@@the_peefster You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
@@DominiqueB my windscreen sits several inches away from the stove
Love my Jet boil. Yes it might be heavier, it’s great for a weekend trip for me. I like your suggestion with sharing it amongst others at camp, as it cuts cooking time as well as fuel consumption. The smaller lighter ones are intriguing but, I like the stability of the jet boil as well as not needing a pot grabber so that I don’t burn my fingers.
100%
I use the BSR with a Titanium pot and have enjoyed the simplicity of the system. It also breaks down into a really small size when packing up, which is important for a bikepacking setup. I did buy the orange fuel canister stand at REI for about $5, which does make the system much more stable. If anyone is interested in a Jetboil system, you can currently get one at REI for less than $100.
I'll never forget the time I was at a dry camp with only a litter and half of water, put 500 ml in my pot to make supper and just as it started boiling my pot tipped off the stove and spilled on the ground. Refilled and had a really dry hike the next day. It took me until about 3 the next day before I reached the next water source.
Ive been using my jetboil about 5 years. One of the reasons I prefer it is because I like the fact the fuel, fuel stand, cleaning sponge silicon hot mat/pot holder & pot support all consolidated inside the jetboil pot. Most of my hikes are only 15 to 20 mile hikes so the extra wait isn’t bad. Does seam like overkill on some hikes.
I personally haven’t had any major issues with my ignitor.
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I don't camp often but I like a Jet Boil system. I only care about boiling water for bag meals. I like how quick and stable they are. 💯✌️🤟🤘
To fix the piezo ignitor, use a fine grade fingernail file (or sanding paper) to scuff up the wire tip. My replacement burner had the same issue.
I use the BRS with a Neoross windscreen. Works like a champ and eliminates the stability issues. Still under 3oz.
I bought my first Jetboil almost ten years ago and it was a game changer. I pack a larger flash for the truck and pack a mini for the trail.
A couple of times it's been Jetboil to the rescue with other backpackers due to fuel or stove failure.
Loved this one! Im currently staging for my 1st backpacking trip and have tons of Qs about gear. Dont want to spend/buy too much for 2 reasons: 1 - what if i dont like backpacking or cant handle carrying a load up hills. 2 - i know the best way to figure out what's best for me is to USE the gear. That way I will be able to tell what i really prefer. Anyhoo - just my 2 cents
I have the GSI Pinnacle Stove, and I think it is another great middle ground option that is a bit overlooked. It is $50 regular price, but I found it at Sierra for $28.
At my age (74) I must carry less weight on even overnight trips. I use my BRS on low power until the water steams then turn it up. This greatly improves fuel efficiency. The main design fault with BRS is the unnecessarily large gap between the flame and the pot. Another is the lack of a wind shield. I have also heard you can melt the pot stand off them if your pot runs dry while the burner is full on.
Titanium pots are really limited to boiling water since as a poor conductor its easy to burn food. I therefore use a light aluminium pot which serves all purposes and improves boiling efficiency. Its cheaper than titanium too yet a similar weight. Everything including BRS, lighter, utensils, pot scrubber and gas bottle packs into my pot. I will only use a jet boil when I can borrow it from someone else in our party. It's way to heavy to be an advantage.
Thanks Miranda for encouraging people to think about the pros and cons of jetboil versus BRS. Its been a worthwhile conversation and confirmed to me that for my needs BRS is more than adequate.
I have a JB Flash that I’ve had for many years. It’s very reliable and well used. More recently as I hike more I have a BRS and 750 ml titanium pot. My entire cook kit including fuel fits in the pot. I really like this set up. Also have a Trangia. It really just depends on what I’m doing and what I’m cooking.
I would choose the Jetboil because when I want food/hot drink I want it NOW. And because I am scared of having a smaller stove tip and getting burns while on the trail.
Great comparison and conclusion 🙂
I only started camping a few years ago and I've upgraded the tent, the mat, sleeping bag, got a ground sheet, etc but not my cheap own brand stove. Mainly because it came with a lightweight pot, a stand and a small stove. It does exactly what I need it to, admittedly not great in the wind but with a screen, it's all good.
The Jetboil just seems too bulky and overkill for what I need.
My pick: The cheap burner, plus a knockoff heat-exchanger pot to accelerate the boil, plus 3d-printing my own tripod for the fuel canister for stability. Total outlay $53 plus an hour of print time, and I've got everything except the locking nubbins and the koozie.
Are you familiar with the JetBoil Stash? It’s relatively new and the best compromise! It works like a jetboil, but light like and ultralight pot/stove system. It’s awesome!! Also the fuel savings of a JetBoil add up in weight and money pretty quickly over time.
Great comparison and conclusions. I have both a JetBoil Minimo and a BRS setup, and use for different types of trips as you described. However, pro tip, I pair my BRS with the Toaks Light 700ml pot, which is a wider than average diameter at 4 1/2" (115mm), and it just feels much more stable. Love it!
Yes, the 700 light is an excellent choice for solo use.
I bought a Snowpeak Gigapower Light Max stove like 15 years ago, not sure they still make them, but it’s a good stove that weight 56.5 grams (so much less than some stoves but much more than a BRS stove). It’s a fine stove that serves its function well. I also use a Redbull can alcohol burner and the whole system for that including a fuel bottle and windscreen/pot stand weighs like 39.5 grams, and I made that whole system from repurposed items, so it was free except my labor. It’s not super efficient, but it’s super lightweight.
I've got a jetboil minimo 😍 and I absolutely LOVE IT. It has a shorter wider pot so that I can easily eat out of it and the valve is designed so thst you can actually adjust the flame to actually cook with it as opposed to simply boiling water. I can fry eggs and bacon or simmer a stew or soup it is extremely versatile (And so far knock on wood after 3+ years my peizo still works great 🤞) to me it is the ultimate backpack/camp stove.
Also, a foil windscreen makes the BRS almost as efficient as the JetBoil.
You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
@@DominiqueB IME, that's mostly a theoretical concern, although I agree that it is worthwhile to feel the canister occasionally to be sure that your specific setup doesn't overheat in your specific environment. Heat mostly flows up rather than down (although it is possible to screw it up).
Some people use a heat shield between the burner and the canister. I have never found it necessary, but I can see why a company selling a product might include such a thing.
In the Winter, a little heat warming the canister is a good thing. Just don't over-do it.
A more likely issue is overheating the TOP of the windscreen, which can get hot enough to melt (thin) aluminum.
I bought the Soto Windmaster a couple years ago because of a review you did and your recommendation. I love it! Thanks!
I have both, but I like my Jet Boil because it came with a French press. Gotta keep the wife caffeinated. lol. I took the BRS out on a super windy trip, it worked, but took a while. For normal 2-3 night hikes, I will gladly take the jet boil. I also take the helinox chair, so I don't mind a little weight for luxury.
The BRS is great for the price. It's the rare exception to the "Light/Cheap/Good...pick two" backpacking gear conundrum. When I got into backpacking I bought two of them along with two Toaks pots for my son and I for about half of what the Jetboil system was going for at the time. That said they are not the most efficient stove on the market, so an argument could be made that for longer hikes something more efficient like the Windmaster is better because you don't have to carry as much fuel. I've recently picked up a Soto Amicus to try that out for a bit and will see how it goes.
My additional comment is if you’re going somewhere that you can’t resupply for a week ie like the Sierras then fuel savings might be an issue. Not crazy about how much room the Jetboil takes up in a pack as every square inch counts when taking long sections.
I've never paid more than $12 for a BRS stove. I have bought about a dozen of them too (I give gear to friends and family) Stove, pot (Toaks 550ml), and lighter (Bic Mini) come out to 106.2g/3.75oz and cost me $40.50. The Jetboil is bulky, heavy, and expensive. Plus you still have to carry a lighter since their piezo is essentially defective by design. So you lug around a broken piezo igniter plus a lighter for no reason. Sure, it boils faster, and uses less fuel but it costs 3 times as much, costs more than 3x as much, and takes up easily 2-3x the space too.
Great comparison video and good recommendations! I'm using an original Pocket Rocket from the first year they were available and an aluminum pot from at least 40 years ago when I needed a bigger pot for melting snow on my Svea 123. I guess old habits are hard to break-haha.
So, the Jet Boil is most useful after your 2nd glass of wine. Safety First! But about the Jet Boil suppose you in the back of beyond and you run out of fuel. Can you use the Jet Boil on an open fire??
My wife and I have an MSR Windburner (which is comparable to the Jetboil) as well as the Soto Windmaster and a BRS 3000. We take the MSR Windburner on longer trips because it uses half the fuel that either the Soto Windmaster or the BSR 3000 do and so we need only one fuel canister. On shorter trips, we take the Soto Windmaster because it is more fuel efficient in the wind than the BSR 3000 is.
There is a chinese copy of the SOTO Windmaster named Campingmoon XD-2F for $26 USD, which some reviewers find actually better than the original. It is certainly worth lookung at 😉
Also, there are some other pots with heat exchanger, and you can buy the canister stand separately.
I believe it is possible to build a setup as efficient as the Jetboil for half the price and double the versatility 😊
Love my Jetboil Flash. If I need a lighter option, I would probably go for the Jetboil Stash (260g, sale price $112), but could just consider the Flash a luxury item.
MSR has a piezo you can buy that is separate from a stove small about the size of a small Bic lighter. If I remember correctly mine was like $9. And it works great I've had it for a year
Yesss I love the side piezo!
Thank you for putting together this video. Please conduct this test on all the stoves in another video, Cheers!
Another suggestion that literally no American RUclipsrs ever seem to mention is Alpkit's Kraku stove. It weighs 45g, packs super-tiny, has a (working) piezo, and costs $30. Alpkit are a British company, but I'm 100% certain that they ship to the Americas. They're also super environmentally friendly and put much of their profits back into the environment and other charitable causes. They also have excellent warranties and after-sales service. I've used everything from their tents (British style, double-skinned: we have too much rain for single-skin tents) to their cookware, clothing and bikepacking equipment. All of their gear is comparable in quality to the leading brands, but at a significantly lower cost (including their very own knock-off of the Jetboil!). I'll be using their Kraku stove, titanium pot, merino clothing and other little camping knick-knacks on my PCT hike this year. Highly recommend to check them out.
Also from the UK and I have a few pieces of Alpkit gear. It's great quality and very well priced.
The Alpkit Kraku is just a copy of this for a little more (both a copy of the Fire Maple Hornet). No working piezo.
Edit: and made in China. So, might as well just grab the cheaper BRS that is also lighter, that is now probably the most ubiquitous backpacking stove out there.
@@jimyeats I've owned a BTS and a Kraku and the Kraku is far better build quality. Plus mine has a working piezo and has worked for me for 6 years now 🤷♂️
@@fcboomstick Send us a link then, because I am looking at the release articles for the Alpkit Kraku (it’s actually made for them by Fire Maple) and it doesn’t have a piezo. Nor would the weight be 45g if it did. 45g is the weight of the basic Fire Maple Hornet FMS 300t and the Alpkit Kraku without a piezo.
Edit: and I’m not saying the Fire Maple isn’t a better product, or have a higher build quality, but those gains have limited returns when most people are just using the stove to boil water. So most opt for the weight savings of the BRS.
@@jimyeats sorry, yes, you are right, it doesn't have a piezo on the Kraku. I was confusing it with a Campingaz one I sometimes use - too many bloody stoves! Haha. Other than that though, very happy with the Kraku as it has proven to be more efficient than my BRS or my Campingaz (i.e. more cups of tea from a single canister). But really the Kraku was a side thought here: I just wish more RUclipsrs would pick up on Alpkit's gear as it's as good or better than half the stuff I see recommended over and over. I don't think I've heard anyone but Paul Messner even mention them on RUclips - if it wasn't for him I would never have known myself. One thing of theirs I haven't tried but would love to is their Jetboil knock-off (presumably also made by Fire Maple as it looks exactly like theirs?) because it's so much cheaper than Jetboil and has coffee press attachments etc.
My MSR Titan kettle/pot thingy is almost $100 CAD now. Makes the JetBoil Flash system seem not too bad. I'm still a PocketRocket Deluxe lover though haha.
A few years ago I did an experimental physics garage experiment with backpacking stoves. I measure the temp of 500mL or some known quantity of water at its steady state ambient temperature. Then I weighed my fuel canister. Then I boiled the water up to like 95C degrees or whatever my target was, and immediately shut off the stove. Because I knew the quantity of water I was using, and the starting and ending temperatures, I knew how much energy was needed to raise the temperature of the water to my target. I also could calculate the potential energy of the fuel (because those fuel cans have two fuels in them I had to figure out the mix's potential energy) because I knew the starting and ending weights of the fuel. So I could then divide how much energy it took to heat the water by the potential energy to calculate the efficiency in a standard way. That way you can compare different cook sets in a standard format; apples to apples.
I have two Jetboils and neither has ever failed to light with the piezo, I don't use them as much as Miranda has probably uses hers, and it would be so frustrating if it didn't work.
I would love to see product comparisons for dog camping/hiking gear. Like dog packs, booties, and any other helpful gear items. We’ve been wanting to take our fur babies camping and hiking but there’s so many gear options and it’s hard to know what is worth it or not
I have the BRS stove and that exact pot. I love them both and the definitely DO tip over 😂
I use a alcohol stove for water and a twig stove for everything else. I don't understand the race to boil water. Plus i don't like not knowing how much gas is in the cans.
They sound like a jet taking off.
Wait. So you didn't put the water from both pots on at the same time?
Would be a little better on grading the time to take to boil the water.
I only take my JetBoil now when I travel in hotels for my morning coffee. It just weighs too much and takes up a lot of room in my 35L pack.
What about comparing the firemaple or similar "jetboil" brands from Amazon? I saw the firemaple for $50 with great reviews.
Can someone tell me, what other burner a Jetboil pot fits? I know the Jetboil pot stand fits amazingly onto the msr windburner. Facts please! 🤗
Whole lotta trouble for hot coffee and crumby bag meals. I have a brs. Great stove but i never take it unless i take my kids with me, (hot coco!)
Consecutive Miranda Goes Outside!! videos without a burp: 2
Very good comparison- awesome option indeed!😂❤
My problem with the Jetboil (besides the price) is that it just seems like it is just constructed out of gimmicks.
Sounds like it's a long-term money saver for fuel. Bigger buy-in, but long-term savings.
Why does everyone compare the brs to the Flash instead of jet Boil's new Stash stove?
pro tip: buy a used Jetboil. The piezo won't work and the cup might be cracked, but mine cost £40
Yes, but a lidded pot boils faster than a pot that is getting its lid lifted every 30 seconds you did not touch the jet boil lid at all!! I don't believe this was a share shakedown! Have you not been lifting the lid and it got to build pressure on the inside of the way it's needed I don't think it would've used as much gas or taken as long as it did
Jetboil seems like a good car camping stove. It would take a very very long time between resupplies before the fuel efficiency outweighed (haha) the excess... weight.
My BRS AND the small size fuel canister AND a lighter AND folding spoon AND a bandana all fit inside my 650ml ti pot. The lightweight canister stand I added just goes in the food bag - anyone know a canister stand that folds up smaller? I'm in the market.
The price difference is negligible over the expected life of the product. You'll burn way more cash on fuel in the long run than on either stove/set.
I don't care anything about boiling in 2 minutes, 4 minutes, 10 minutes. I might start grousing about 20 minutes. I mean, I've used alcohol stoves. 4 minutes is ~blazing~ fast.
Eventually I will knock over my pot on the BRS but it hasn't happened yet. It has with most other stoves I've used.
Jetboil looks like a good hanging stove system for exposed ledges and snow caves.
So yeah, use cases for both.
Also, full blast without the windscreen heat exchanger thing wastes fuel. Blows lots of heat out and away from the sides.
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Lol 25 almonds 😂 us Americans will use anything but standard measurement tools
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Yes y’all are so annoying…!
So where do I find the online almond-calculator?
Introducing, the pietz-sometimes! The pietz-possibly! The pietz-tentially!
It’s Pavlov’s pietzo!!
@@RainerGolden Schrödinger's pietzo
@@JoelBecker72 Oh yes, that is what I meant 😂
pietz-soso
When my sister and I went on the PCT I used a Pocket Rocket and she used the Jet Boil. I was so jealous of her Jet Boil once I saw it in action! The wind screen and the speed of boiling was fantastic. She had no regrets carrying it. I think both stoves are great in their own way but the Jet Boil sure is luxury.
A jet boil is 1/6 the price of an actual small whirlpool stove. The jet boil is way overpriced. You’re better off buying it on sale or secondhand.
I obtained a jet boil while I was on the PCT because someone just threw it away in a hiker box. At the time I was using the BRS 3000 and it took 14 minutes to boil some water the second time I used it. I could get it down to about 8ish minutes if I was really careful about where I put it but tbh wished I had brought my pocket rocket with me instead. After seeing just how fast the jet boil was I ended up putting it in the next hiker box. Never ended up buying another one...
@@TheAirlock have you taken a Whirlpool stove camping? If you have, you'd know that it boils water slower than a jet boil
omg immediately liked for "Mike Tyson is a basketball player"
He a professional pigeon trainer beyond that I know nothing lol
In fairness, he did have a basketball court at his house that had a "Team Tyson" logo painted on it, so he was a basketball player.
@scottplumer3668 I think he also was fairly successful selling frozen chickens in the supper market too 😀
His brother Steven Tyson sings with that band Aerosmith
@@thedirtyknobs yeah everybody knows that.
I liked your conclusion on this one because there really is no one size fits all when it comes to gear like this. You absolutely hit the nail on the head that in a group setting on perhaps a shorter trip, the jetboil feels way more appropriate than say on a week+ trip on technical terrain where something like the BRS wins on weight.
I've discovered something similar with down jackets as well where I am in the market for the lightest, most compressible jacket I can find to meet kit requirements on a mountain race where I'm using it as a layer. Many of the reviews on those jackets that are negative seem to come from people that don't have a proper understanding of the jackets use case, expecting it to perform in the cold as well as a much larger and heavier jacket.
the weight is really not much an issue when you consider you have to carry twice as much fuel with the brs stove if you did the week plus trip, then the weight is essentially the same...still have to consider the pot with the brs and the fuel can....the weight different is down to ounces...not much....i have both and the jetboil is exponentially more effective on week or longer trips...as a coffee drinker , adding the plunger to the jetboil is where the weight gets even more even as i dont have to bring a seperate item to make coffee , broken down it fits inside the jetboil pot with the stove, the fuel can ....end of the day, it saves carrying extra fuel, add the french press plunger at literally next to no weight, you get great coffee with out more bulk....the stability is what essentially seals the deal...
@@burnsidebobthorpe All fair points! I guess I was imagining more in the scenario like myself where I might be cold soaking meals and using a heated setup for coffee in the mornings. In which case even if I am using roughly 1.8x more fuel as demonstrated by Miranda, on a 198g canister I'd have to be going for more than 22 days before I ran out. In that time frame I'm usually either done, or would have passed though a place I could pick up more fuel as needed. Like I said originally I think there's a good argument to be made completely depending on the person and the trip needs.
I’ve had my original Jetboil for about 20 years. I use it on every camping trip, cold hiking trips, music festivals and every road trip.
I had a Coleman Peak stove for 25+ years before I replaced it. It kicked butt - but it was HEAVY, especially when the fuel tank was full.
Comparison video idea:
We need to shine some love on the REI Air Rail sleeping pad.
1. It doesn’t feel like a pool toy.
2. The combo of air and insulation is perfect and thus you need not choose between them.
3. It is quiet and doesn’t sound like you are rolling on a bag of potato chips.
4. The rails actually keep you on the pad overnight.
5. The dual valves are well engineered.
6. The price point is very fair. Most pads fall in the 50, 100, 200, or 275 areas. The Air Rail is only 120.
I’ve never worked for REI, but I’ve convinced 6 friends to get this pad, and no one regrets it. I’d hate for REI to discontinue it like they did to the Half Dome 1+ tent.
I’d compare it to both foam and air pads of higher and lower prices.
P.S. Can we add “This is my _____ gosh darn” patches to the store?
Love the Channel!
Piez-maybe? Piez-Noooooooooooo 😂 BRS for me. Was a great video. Thanks.
Maddie of Beer In Beautiful Places had her stove with a pot full of boiling water tip over on her legs while thru hiking the Appalachian Trail last year. Always cook on the ground.
rookie mistake. surprised no one warned her not to do that.
After using both the Jetboil and BRS, I settled on the Soto Windmaster. Great efficiency, decently light, and I can swap to the 3 or 4 prong pot holder as needed.
The jetboil is like the Americans spending a lot of money and effort to design a pen that can write in space and then the BRS is the Russians using a pencil.
And somehow the Soviets still went bankrupt first.
@@Accurize2That's because the Soviet's response to any problem was never increasing efficiency, but always throwing at it more resources and manpower, until it stopped making sense.
Except that's apocryphal because you can't have graphite floating in space where it might interfere with electronics systems ...
And the pencil nip broke off, leaving graphite floating amongst electrical instruments , endangering there return journey.
The jet boil is almost as bad as the BRS in the wind that’s why I use an MSR windburner.
I'll give this video a thumbs up for the back to the Future references alone let alone the information about the products. :)
I've had the Jetboil since it came out in the early 2000's. It's my primary cooking system because it just works, and is extremely efficient. The BRS and titanium cup would be a great ultralight option. On backpacking trips I used it for group cooking and it's worked great. Maybe a little heavy for some but the benefits are worth it to me.
I bought the jetboil when they came out, to heat my ration pack meals in the British army, something a small cup and BRS can't do. I too have a BRS and small 500ml pot for freeze dried meals, knowing in the back of my mind the BRS will eat my fuel twice as fast. It's shame people who make jetboil videos don't know how to use them, or what they are for....
The jetboil comes with a cozy, technically, since coozy is a portmanteau of "cool cozy".
Oh shit sorry I thought this was Seth Meyers so I was offering a correction.
Hard to take advice from someone who thinks Mike Tyson was a power forward 😮…
Best stove in 2024 is campingmoon xd-2f
Miranda: Mike Tyson is a... basketball player?
Rainer: OHHHH MY GOOOOD
Bought a Grippi copy of the jetboil on Amazon for under $23 works great piezo igniter never fails. If you use the brs you need to weight the pot wind screen tank stand and on a longer trip the additional fuel you have to carry. By turning down the heat exchanger stove you can also reduce fuel consumption and therefore weight. For short trips a 100g tank can be used reducing weight for either stove. The Grippi stove was on sale regular price is about $45 . I bought a 2nd to carry in my truck.
ehhh, 2 different kinds of stoves for 2 different purposes for 2 different audiences/campers/hikers.
BUT with that being said, you should look at the Jetboil Stash instead (their attempt at getting into the UL scene)! I feel like that would have been a better comparison to the BRS.
This is the exact conclusion of the vid!
If your tentmate farts so hard it knocks over the stove, the stove is the least of your problems
I like the jetboil for car camping. Just too bulky and heavy for backpacking. I'll stick to my MSR. Great information, thanks for the demonstration. 😊
Yeah I have both. BRS for fastpacking jetboil for family hiking trips i even bring the jetboil on car camping trips sometimes
Right! These are two very different stoves for very different use cases.
There's also the firemaple which is like a cheaper jetboil
The Fire Maple Polaris is superior due to the pressure regulating burner. And it's $50 cheaper.
Great video, been doing this for years and i also own a jetboil (primarily for the sailboat). It's a good stove. BRS is also a good stove, I also have a couple MSR stoves, SnowPeak, trangia and fancee feast alcohol stoves etc. and they are all tailored to a specific purpose for me. I agree with others, U-do-U, just depends on the situation. They are all good stoves for my purposes.
I’ve got many stoves including the flash 2.0 jetboil. I’d probably say it’s my go to stove. I even take it on site to make myself a brew. I’ve saved every penny I outlayed on gas saving. So it’s a bargain now that I’m still using it and it’s paying me now 😂
I have the MSR windburner stove. It's heavy, but once you add in a pot, windscreen, and additional fuel for the pocket stove, I still prefer the MSR system.
Unlocking phone with passcode on camera… time to change your passcode!
😆 yeppppp def missed that and grateful to all the people who told me!!
I've been using a knock-off version of the BRS for a while now. For me, the size and weight make it a winner, but I'm pretty solidly in the ultra-light camp. That being said, one metric that you did not cover is what the overall system weight is for each; how much does the entire Jetboil weigh vs how much does the BRS + cookware weigh? We also carry a home made foil screen with ours, which doesn't add much weight at all, but I would factor it into any comparison. Finally, I can attest to the instability of cooking with the BRS-style stove. It's very difficult to set it up perfectly level, and I have had the pot slide off of the stove more than once. I've never been close enough to get splashed, but it is a bummer to lose some of that hard earned water, especially if I'm not camping near a water source.
True. and subtract the weight of the can holder and cup. Or add a cup and can holder to the weight and cost of a BRS setup.
Jet boil comes with a pietzo shit
I was accidentally watching the video at 1.2x and thought Miranda was just really excited to talk about stoves
In a lot of ways, its really comparing apples and oranges between those 2 stoves. They each have their place.
You've got to do the $3,000 tent on the CyberTruck. Just saw Kara and Nate do it. Gota see what you think!
Thanks for the video. But I’m a Svea123r person and nothing will change my mind lol
Jet boil for car/campground camping! BRS for backpacking! I have both and use them in this way. Great review! Thank you!😊
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I say it depends on what you’re doing when requiring the stoves. If I’m backpacking the BRS (which I use) is amazing. If you’re camping on a portal ledge climbing big wall the jet boil alllll the way.
Edit: I purchased my BRS on Amazon for less than $16
I have the Soto Amicus and I love it! It has yet to fail and works well in windy conditions. It also comes with a handy cookset that a fuel canister can fit it. Pricewise it's between the BRS and Jetboil
Great job, thank you. I’m getting one of each. I’ve seen the jet boil at work at elk camp and as you mentioned, it works great with others ready to eat hearty especially after hiking for miles while on the hunt.
Very helpful, thank you. I am going to do a 100+ mile hike and trying to knock down my weight for the trip. Love my jet boil and its stability, but the weight!
''a full cook system''. made me laugh. hot water for instant coffee and a shot of honey.
food is fuel. pack in your own dehydrated staples, some granola, and tins of sardines and
surstromming. hi end food prep is taking time away from frisbee with the dog and the
last rays of that awesome sunset. ''why spend money when you can spend time?''
Gas one makes an alternative to the 3000 T stove that is basically the same but it will simmer very well and the arms are slightly thicker. It’s still weighs about the same. My biggest gripe with the BRS is its inability to simmer. The gas one simmers very well.
Great video , but the production staff commentary was distracting to me
i love my mini-mo (piezo been working 2.5 years) and when i go lite or cold i love my fancy-feast alcohol stove😸