FIRST TAKE | Stephen A. & Cam Newton discuss how Patrick Mahomes can pass Tom Brady as GOAT

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @deckardaaron
    @deckardaaron 5 часов назад +18

    Patrick Mahomes lost Tyreek Hill and Stephen A said he hasn’t dealt with change. What????? That changed their entire offensive scheme

  • @dreamseller7909
    @dreamseller7909 Час назад +5

    Lol mahomes has dealt with a bunch of change

  • @camxthareaperttv4591
    @camxthareaperttv4591 5 часов назад +7

    I completely disagree with Edelman and Stephen A Mahomes been dealing with change his whole career he lost Hill, Trent, Hunt and now has a aging kelce with a almost completely different wr core this year except for Kelce and juju on top of going from a high powered offense in the beg of his career to now where the defense has been more of a factor these are all changes and he stills finds a way to win!

  • @izzy9189
    @izzy9189 5 часов назад +15

    Bruh you'll stop it, Mahomes lost Tyreek Hill, and had butter fingers receivers last year, and he's on the cusp of 3 peating

    • @davidscott2059
      @davidscott2059 5 часов назад +1

      Mahomes has also had coaching changes. While Andy is an offensive genius. He has go from Eric B to Nagy as OC. Eric B was a task master OC who stayed on top of his players. Nagy is a little looser as a coach. Still Mahomes won a Super Bowl with each in the back to back super bowls

    • @joshuasosa97
      @joshuasosa97 2 часа назад

      @@izzy9189 you can't deny Patrick M had top 5 defense last year and this year.

    • @rodneystallworth3593
      @rodneystallworth3593 Час назад +2

      @@joshuasosa97Tom always had top tier defense in his super bowl runs

    • @antoniomatthews4459
      @antoniomatthews4459 Час назад

      @@rodneystallworth3593 really ....top defense in the Philly SB

    • @rodneystallworth3593
      @rodneystallworth3593 Час назад

      @@antoniomatthews4459 idk if you trying to be sarcastic or not but they was rank 16 still elite defense and they lost, all of Tom super bowls run he always has top tier defense

  • @dallaswilliams8152
    @dallaswilliams8152 2 часа назад +1

    There are some people who will be like.... now I know mahomes has won 17 super bowls, but Tom Brady did this.

  • @DawudFaried
    @DawudFaried 3 часа назад +2

    Did Stephen A said Patrick didn’t have to deal with change, he has to lay off the weeeeeed 🤣, and Tom Brady had Gronk, Julian, Hernandez, Troy Brown, Wes Welker, oh yeah let’s not forget Randy Moss

  • @casscastellano1902
    @casscastellano1902 2 часа назад

    What are they talking about? Patty has gone through the changes Brady has in 7 years compared to Brady’s 23 years lol they went from scoring 40+ a game, Patty throwing 50+ TD’s and 5000+ yards bc the defense couldn’t stop a cold, to being a game manager, to literally having to spoon feed WR that nobody in the league wanted, last year riding his Defense like Brady did the first 3 Super Bowls and this year the team is more balanced. Patty has shown you that it doesn’t matter what you put around him. He can get it done.

  • @MemberMe019
    @MemberMe019 2 часа назад +1

    So if SAS is crying about conditions in order to knock, PM, then he should keep that same energy towards MJ! Who was the best player, on the best team, with the best coach! And people are wondering how he could go 6-0? There was no true resistance. There was no true adversity. No other true super star in the league that you could give the ball to and say: "Take us there," except for Hakeem the Dream! Who MJ just so happened to duck for the 2 years Hakeem won the championship!

  • @roe114
    @roe114 4 часа назад +2

    Why are y'all saying no one has 3 peat when the Packers did 1965 1966 1967

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 3 часа назад +5

      In the Super Bowl era.

    • @joshuasosa97
      @joshuasosa97 2 часа назад

      ​@abc_12333 it's the same thing.

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 Час назад +1

      @@joshuasosa97 Not really. In the 60's, there were only 16 teams and the Packers only had to win 7 playoff games in 3 years. Whereas, if the Chiefs win this Super Bowl, they'll have won 10 playoff games in a 32 team league. Otherwise, everyone would just call Bill Russell the GOAT instead of Michael Jordan since Russell has 11 rings in a less than 10 team league.

    • @joshuasosa97
      @joshuasosa97 Час назад

      @@abc_12333 Micheal Jordan played in a league of where the players were slow and talentless players. MJ not even the goat plus if the chiefs win it will be the weakest "dynasty" in sports history.

  • @johnre5342
    @johnre5342 5 часов назад +1

    I agree. I pick joe #1. He played in a defensive era. Edelman is just being biased. He is entitled to his own opinion. Brady couldn't win with moss for 2 years. Yet paticks team had the most drops inthe league last year and still won. Not including joe because he played a different game in his era i think patrick is a little better than brady because he can make things happen with his feet where brady is a siting duck when under pressure

  • @cory91874
    @cory91874 6 часов назад +3

    Don't forget, Montana didn't have Rice his first two Super Bowls, just his last two. You guys take the physicality out of conversation, I would take Montana, you could kill him and he still got up and Montana couldn't play as long as you can now Brady didn't have more Super Bowls than Montana at 36 and couldn't play much longer, body couldn't take them hits you took back then, Couldn't hit Brady without fines and penalties, why I pick Jordan because of physicality, that matters, know I'm a nobody but facts are facts.

    • @Judahscattered4corners-d4g
      @Judahscattered4corners-d4g 5 часов назад +1

      You can't take away from people's greatness because the NFL decided to protect its players from complete savagery. If Pat wins 3 in a row and has won 4 in 7 year's that puts him immediately in 2nd behind Brady. If he 4peats which would be 5 in 8 year's he would pass Brady.

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 3 часа назад +1

      I'm a Montana guy. But he did not fully recover from the hit he took in 1990 from behind against the Giants in the playoffs. That significantly shortened Montana's career.

    • @johnre5342
      @johnre5342 4 минуты назад

      ​@@abc_12333and ruined his 3 peat attempt.

  • @DaDon000
    @DaDon000 2 часа назад

    tom brady has a top 10 defense e every year in New England

    • @joshuasosa97
      @joshuasosa97 2 часа назад

      Who beat Patrick mahomes in the SB lol 😅🫵🏻

  • @AIceddto100
    @AIceddto100 2 часа назад

    Travis Kelsey hasnt even been all dat this year 😂stoppit

  • @cannoytaylor517
    @cannoytaylor517 4 минуты назад

    Yes joe Montana did he won 2 before he got Jerry Rice there

  • @RENNYPENNY_LYRIC
    @RENNYPENNY_LYRIC 4 часа назад +2

    Tom Brady played in a azz division for years don’t forget that

    • @AIceddto100
      @AIceddto100 2 часа назад +1

      Naw fax cuz this is probably the toughest the AFC has ever been

  • @andrumcarthur4116
    @andrumcarthur4116 5 часов назад

    If he change teams then ok but come now

  • @QuanDadon-kj8td
    @QuanDadon-kj8td 2 часа назад

    Stephan A Lost this one we really just seen him get mad at the lady suck it up Stephan A

  • @DontCallmeLadale
    @DontCallmeLadale 36 минут назад +1

    This some Mahomes hate lownkey. Tom Brady has the same damn coach most of his career wdym? And most of the championships he won were not bc of his own play but his kicker! Get the facts right mfers😂

  • @NzB5570
    @NzB5570 43 минуты назад

    Bla bla bla Steve A BS Mahome has shown that he can win with less 7 years start he's gone to 4 SB won 🏆 🏆🏆 now his on his 5th SB he will THREE-PEAT and make history 💪💪💪 who's to say he won't 4-peat 😂😂😂 CHIEFS KINGDOM 💪💪🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @joshuasosa97
    @joshuasosa97 2 часа назад

    WHO BEAT Patrick Mahomes IN THE SUPERBOWL?..

    • @johnre5342
      @johnre5342 5 минут назад

      The buccs defense with help from the refs making all those defensive holding calls.

  • @Marlon.Brando-25
    @Marlon.Brando-25 42 минуты назад

    Hey Cam
    Joe Montana didnt have Rice his first Superbowl win

    • @johnre5342
      @johnre5342 7 минут назад

      Or his second win either