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Using the ATEM Mini Pro with Microsoft Teams Live Event
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2020
- There aren't many videos on this so I thought I'd show how we are using the MIni Pro with Teams at our work. Sorry it's kind of fast, there was a meeting coming in!
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This is a very handy video.. Thank you Angie!
Great, thank you for this!!!
Thanks for this. I couldn't tell from the specs if the USB-C on Pro could be used as webcam as well or only output to a storage device. Good to see how it works with Teams.
Hi, USB-C in Mini Pro can be used either as a connection for a recording device (we use a T7 SSD) or as a connection for your computer to show up as a webcam.
I do not have a solution where you could do both on a same computer (show up as a webcam througj USB-C and record to that same computer through that same connection). If you need both the recording and a webcam status, you can check the Mini Pro Extreme that has 2 separate USB-C ports. The ISO feature gives you separate cam and sound tracks to edit, not just one mix of a program track.
Anyway, the situations where you need the Atem to show up as a webcam are limited to OBS and VOIP software usage. If you stream to RUclips or Twitch for example, you can use a small and cheap 4 port switch that shares connection from your internet cable to both your computer and Atem Mini Pro, and they find each other through ethernet connection. Your USB-C is then free for recording purposes.
I have not tested any HDMI-out devices like Atomos Ninjas or similar equipment, but I think they should serve as a recording device and as a multiview monitor at the same time, so your USB-C is then free for webcam purposes.
This is the video I've been looking for the whole last week!!! We need content like this... thank you. Question- how does this work if you had people attending live and on the livestream? I'm trying to figure out how we can use an external PA system (for in-person sound) without getting distortion or interference using a lapel mic fed through the ATEM Mini (for virtual sound). Have you tried this before? Or any ideas?
Ah yes, we have to do this for a weekly meeting. The easiest way is to get a small audio mixer. If you have a presenter mic, plug that in the mixer. Then using the main out on the board, you can plug that in to your room audio system. Then using the aux out on the mixer, run that to your presenter laptop or computer. I had to buy a 1/4" to 1/8" cable and a USB sound adapter (something like this: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IRVQ0F8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1). They also have USB-C adapters if you have a Mac.
Then get another 1/8" to 1/4" split cable (like this: www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTDGGK7/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?pd_rd_i=B07MTC3KB3&pd_rd_w=O5YNj&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=xl0tp&pf_rd_r=GRSKG2MHAWRRKYMCR8Q7&pd_rd_r=25b08596-df17-4b41-839e-55c3a1a15de5&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNjZJMEhGRzZQM0tYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTcwNzAxMzdKUEFFUkozWjRDMSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDg1MTgyMVM5TThTSVRSWUI2RCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1). Plug the 1/8" in to the headphone out adapter on your computer and the 1/4" to a separate channel on your mixer.
And that should do it. You'll have the presenter mic and online people going to your sound system in the room and the presenter mic going to your online attendees.
If your meeting needs to have interaction with your in-person attendees, like they need to ask questions, you might need another mic that you could pass around or some kind of conference room mic to pic them up. Then just plug that mic in to one of your other free mixer channels.
Thanks for the video, using this set up, I don't seem to be able to monitor the overall audio from the actual teams software pc, any ideas why?
I always mix within the ATEM software, but that's just from the cameras that I have set up in the board room. If you have people calling in remotely, you can't really mix their mics with your ATEM audio within Teams. I suppose you might be able to take your output from Teams and run it through a mixer but that seems like a lot of work.
hello, great your video of all the ones I have looked for this has been the best! I am going to have a streaming theme, I am going to connect two Nikon cameras to ATEM and the Atem to the computer. a wireless microphone to ATEM. Do I need anything else for ATEM to broadcast on teams? Thank you
No, that seems about right! Just make sure and practice beforehand and make sure your cameras are set so they send a clean signal (without all the settings like aperture and shutter speed) and set up a practice meeting to make sure the audio comes across without noise. I had problems with the mics until I changed the setting in the ATEM software. I also bought AC power adapters for both my cameras so I didn't have to worry about batteries...
Hi Angie thanks for this video there is only one other with yours so it seems not many people are not doing this kind of setup up till now. I am preparing for a general assembly in a school that will be live streamed to class rooms via Teams. Your guide is a great help for my setup. I am curious about the screen you have on the wall, how is it connected? and how is the PowerPoint files controlled by the on site participants? Is it an extended screen for the laptop or another computer?
Hey there, the screen on the wall is connected to a PC mounted behind the screen which is running the Teams meeting. The powerpoint was on the laptop and was controlled by the presenters in the room with a powerpoint clicker/remote. They would use the 2nd large wall monitor to see their slides. I had it set through Teams to show their slides full screen. The small monitor on the table was just for me to see everything from the ATEM. Shows the camera previews and what is live and the audio levels. Hope that helps!
Thank you for this, super helpful. So may I ask...The ATEM just plugs into your laptop via USB-C OUT (The Web Cam Out port) and then your laptop just sees the ATEM as a separate camera (which just happens to have multiple views?) Thank you for your help
Yes. It's basically a television switcher. You have cameras and in my case, a laptop and mics all running to the ATEM. Then you output that to your laptop or desktop that is running the Teams Live Event. That computer will see the camera (and mic) as Blackmagic Design. You then you use the ATEM to cut to your different sources.
Thanks for this video. You said you had one remote person coming in during the meeting, i presume as a presenter in Teams Live. Did there where any issues with handling that? I guess that had to be handeled on the PC which hang on the wall with the big screen there, or how did you deal with that? I am just trying to figure oout how to use this kind of set up for a teams LIve event, with some presenters in the room, and several external.
Yes, the cool thing about the ATEM is that even though you might have 2 cameras and a laptop connected to it, the Live Event thinks it's one component. I log on to the Live Event as me. The signal from the ATEM that's going in to the computer is seen as my webcam. So when people in the room with the ATEM are presenting, I send my signal live and then control it all with the ATEM. I do all the switching between cameras and the laptop on the ATEM. When someone remote is presenting, they can share their screen and use their webcam, you just need to send them live within the Live Event window.
Hi Angie,
Thanks for your great video.
I have mostly the same setup but i have a problem on Teams. In the Microsoft Teams settings i can choose the « blackmagic design camera » but nothing appear on screen. Do you think i have to change something on the atem settings ? Thanks a lot for your help 🙏🏻
Hmmm. I would think that because it gives you the option to choose the blackmagic design camera that the signal is coming through from the switcher. Does the signal come through fine through the hdmi out to a separate monitor?
Thanks for your video. I am using an ATEM Mini Extreme ISO, which has a headphone connector. Have you ever attempted to present and control the ATEM at the same time?
I have not. It was just me doing the whole production so with powerpoints and videos and changing camera angles, I wouldn't have had the time :D
@@angiezagelow8430 Sure, I get that. I was thinking about making a little contraption with foot switches so I could change cameras and turn on PIP with my feet. =D
nice connection explain of the atem but I miss how this was integrated to Team Live Event as the title suggested. Also because you use a separate microphone, did you not had to delay the mic to have correct audio-video synch?
Nope, it seemed to work just fine, no delay. Here is a snippet of the recorded video from the Live Event...
ruclips.net/video/0r81r5Bq6JU/видео.html
The ATEM MINI software now supports audio delay up to to 8 frames I think.
Was there an audio delay? I usually try to attach the mic to my camera and the HDMI will carry the audio to the Atem.
No, I didn't have any delay..I've used audio both ways, directly from a mic or from HDMI. Both have worked great! I just wish there was an audio out on the Atem...
@@angiezagelow8430 you did not have audio delay? Your microphone signal came in too loud so you had to switch the atem to 'line'. I guess whatever you used as microphone has some amplifier in it that causes delay and works up the signal to a 'line' signal. Otherwise it is very strange that you video and direct audio was in synch. Normally only hdmi audio that comes with the camera is in synch. Direct audio coming in through the mic in ports, is always faster then the video and so that audio signal has to be delayed in the atem audio section with use of the atem software.
@@angiezagelow8430 Hi Angie, Thank you for this. This video is very helpful. Just wondering if you were able to figure out how to get an audio out for the audience in the case of a hybrid event.
@@computerjantje It's been a few years since I have used my atem in this way, we were doing soooo many live events back in the covid days. I just looked back at my videos from this time, and no, I didn't have any delays! I'm not sure how I got around that.
@@user-ns9by9oj7c Hi there...it's been so long since I've used the atem with live events. We used it all the time during the height of covid and now we hardly use it at all. I'm trying to think back, I don't think we ever had a hybrid event, we just had presenters in a room. The audience was all virtual. We were using a conference room and we could hear the presenters that were online through the Teams setup, we just couldn't hear a video that I played through powerpoint. I had an out to headphones so I suppose I could have used some old 1/8" aux speakers? Dang, I honestly can't remember.
Hello Angie, kindly if you can help me out as i need to do almost the same setup
Hi Angie, great video thanks. I've tried to run a test live event, and it says i need to have an RTMP feed to broadcast. It won't accept a webcam as I've tested my laptop webcam. Does the Atem Mini provide that feed?
The Microsoft Live Event tells you you need a RTMP feed? I've used a webcam several times on Live Events from my laptop with no problems...
@@angiezagelow8430 I'll have another look but maybe it's particular with Vivia Engage and Live Events. Thanks for letting me know you can use a webcam
Have you came across a presentation with video in it. Does that work in this setup, this is what we often have in our presentations and sometime instead on video within the presentation it is sometime added as link so it redirects to web browser.
We also do a weekly regular Teams Meeting and we have had lots of problems with videos in the powerpoints. Sometimes they play on the presenter's screen but the attendees don't see it play. Or the videos just won't play. Or they get blocked. Or the attendees have to click the play button on their side to get it to work. We also had problems with a mac that used Keynote and the videos wouldn't work. That was just with a regular Teams meeting, not a Live Event. When I have this setup and we are all presenting from the same room and have no remote presenters, the videos work fine because I am playing the videos in a powerpoint on a separate laptop and it is running through the switcher and the Teams Live Event thinks it is the webcam. It doesn't know we are running a powerpoint. The problems with video seem to happen when you are actually sharing your powerpoint through a Teams Meeting.
Hi Angie,
Sharing a PowerPoint as a source in Atem mini and transferring it into teams via webcam results in a blurry picture for the participants. Seems to be a common problem. Any solution on that?
Hey Sven,
You know, I haven't noticed that it was blurry. Maybe a little less sharp? But definitely not blurry. Did you have remote presenters too? Were they blurry as well?
You can use audio output to speaker. Why you complaint about it?
I was more complaining that there is no audio out from the switcher. I had to go through tons of monitors in our warehouse to find one with a headphone jack
@@angiezagelow8430 I agree that this would be a major added strength to this switch. Mini XLR and 3.5mm audio output would be idea in the Extreme models. 3.5mm out for the Mini seems like an obvious choice. When you have to get an active DAC/DDC to pull out the output audio, it is a problem. Did you TV computer have the ability to monitor the audio?
Can you record all 4 camera streams simultaneously and then view all streams in playback with a quad view on a monitor?
I'm not sure exactly understand what you're trying to do...you want to record all 4 cameras simultaneously from the ATEM?
@@angiezagelow8430 yes, I want to record all four cameras in a teams meeting then, replay the recording and see the four feeds.
@@HbombPhenom Ok yeah, if I was going to do that I would pre-record that using a regular Teams meeting and then play the recorded file for your other meeting
Or use an ATEM MINI Extreme ISO with a connected SSD drive
hello pls what is your camera
I was using a Lumix GH4 and a Lumix GX-85
You sound like you have a mask on...
Really?
Really.