I'm mostly interested in Asian and African languages that don't have a lot of compelling input--and some have hardly any resources at all. The method I eventually developed and stuck with as a beginner is to memorize lists of sentences (including repeating the audio recordings aloud many times to improve my pronunciation), deduce the grammar from the sentences, and talk to myself (think aloud) in the target language using the vocabulary and grammar I learned from the sentences. I've never liked Anki except to review words or sentences that I've already learned/memorized elsewhere: It's tedious and stressful for learning new material, and it's hard to keep the cards from piling up (even following tips from your earlier video). For now, I'm using paper flashcards for sentences and (the paid mobile version of) Quizlet for individual words. Quizlet's flashcards aren't very good, but its matching game and quizzes are--if I limit my decks to about 20 cards each. It's easier for me to memorize sentences if I first memorize the new words contained in the sentences.
unfortunately, my mind is super resistant to any kind of formal study, so i am not a person who could ever manage to stick to flashcards (especially when it comes to something like language learning). i threw out the idea of using SRS about a week after attempting it, so instead, a lot of my learning of my target language, chinese, has been heavily, heavily based on taking in content in some form (books, podcasts, and youtube/bilibili videos mainly). in my case, it's worked very well in the 8 months i’ve been learning the language. i think there's a sense of natural repetition that comes from interacting with a language in this way, where the word appears at the frequency that it naturally occurs at in the language. i don’t personally know if SRS/anki can manage to represent the natural frequency of words (as well as grammatical concepts), but the actual language itself certainly can. i’m sure SRS/anki works for people, just not me. i am much less structured in my approach, though. i don’t typically do what you’ve been doing with repeating watching specific content, even if it is probably beneficial. though i will occasionally revisit a video i liked when i first watched it months later as a sort of “benchmark” to see how much i’ve progressed in comprehension. i also don’t really aim for 100% understanding of all the words, just a general feeling of “yep, i understood enough where it feels like i got something out of this”. i mostly look up words when it’s come up enough times that it feels vital to what’s being conveyed, at which point, my brain has probably noted it as significant enough that it’s more willing to hold onto the meaning. it does require being comfortable with that ambiguity from not grasping every single detail of the content you’re taking in, though. though, my primary goal is comprehension of chinese media (especially reading chinese books), so this works particularly well for my personal goals. i’ve read a couple of books written for native adults at this point, so it’s worked pretty well for i initially wanted to accomplish. i’m sure most other language learners have the goal of communicating with others, so that might require different approaches. though at this point i’m so in love with the language learning process that i’ve been starting working on communicating with others :)
I still using Anki for Japanese and even for English. The problem is that people don't suspend old flashcard for example if I see that I'm gonna review one word in over ten mounths I'll inmediality suspend it because is a word I see with frequency in my immersion journey.
How would you act if you would learn MSA which has in comparasion to most languages an abudant amount of vocabulary which are highly dependant on the context.
I completely agree with you, I also used Anki to learn English vocabulary, the huge amount of vocabulary made me very tired, and creating cards also took quite a while even with add-ons. image and audio support
Anki is a huge waste of time. 15 years ago, I used to spend days on end making complicated cards with images, sounds, and formatted with Latex... and having more sides than index cards can have in the 3 conventional physical world.
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And congratulations on your channel.
I'm mostly interested in Asian and African languages that don't have a lot of compelling input--and some have hardly any resources at all. The method I eventually developed and stuck with as a beginner is to memorize lists of sentences (including repeating the audio recordings aloud many times to improve my pronunciation), deduce the grammar from the sentences, and talk to myself (think aloud) in the target language using the vocabulary and grammar I learned from the sentences.
I've never liked Anki except to review words or sentences that I've already learned/memorized elsewhere: It's tedious and stressful for learning new material, and it's hard to keep the cards from piling up (even following tips from your earlier video). For now, I'm using paper flashcards for sentences and (the paid mobile version of) Quizlet for individual words. Quizlet's flashcards aren't very good, but its matching game and quizzes are--if I limit my decks to about 20 cards each. It's easier for me to memorize sentences if I first memorize the new words contained in the sentences.
unfortunately, my mind is super resistant to any kind of formal study, so i am not a person who could ever manage to stick to flashcards (especially when it comes to something like language learning). i threw out the idea of using SRS about a week after attempting it, so instead, a lot of my learning of my target language, chinese, has been heavily, heavily based on taking in content in some form (books, podcasts, and youtube/bilibili videos mainly). in my case, it's worked very well in the 8 months i’ve been learning the language. i think there's a sense of natural repetition that comes from interacting with a language in this way, where the word appears at the frequency that it naturally occurs at in the language. i don’t personally know if SRS/anki can manage to represent the natural frequency of words (as well as grammatical concepts), but the actual language itself certainly can. i’m sure SRS/anki works for people, just not me.
i am much less structured in my approach, though. i don’t typically do what you’ve been doing with repeating watching specific content, even if it is probably beneficial. though i will occasionally revisit a video i liked when i first watched it months later as a sort of “benchmark” to see how much i’ve progressed in comprehension. i also don’t really aim for 100% understanding of all the words, just a general feeling of “yep, i understood enough where it feels like i got something out of this”. i mostly look up words when it’s come up enough times that it feels vital to what’s being conveyed, at which point, my brain has probably noted it as significant enough that it’s more willing to hold onto the meaning. it does require being comfortable with that ambiguity from not grasping every single detail of the content you’re taking in, though.
though, my primary goal is comprehension of chinese media (especially reading chinese books), so this works particularly well for my personal goals. i’ve read a couple of books written for native adults at this point, so it’s worked pretty well for i initially wanted to accomplish. i’m sure most other language learners have the goal of communicating with others, so that might require different approaches. though at this point i’m so in love with the language learning process that i’ve been starting working on communicating with others :)
I still using Anki for Japanese and even for English. The problem is that people don't suspend old flashcard for example if I see that I'm gonna review one word in over ten mounths I'll inmediality suspend it because is a word I see with frequency in my immersion journey.
How would you act if you would learn MSA which has in comparasion to most languages an abudant amount of vocabulary which are highly dependant on the context.
interesting video to begin to enter more languages in a more educational way, thanks for sharing the advice.
I completely agree with you, I also used Anki to learn English vocabulary, the huge amount of vocabulary made me very tired, and creating cards also took quite a while even with add-ons. image and audio support
Anki is a huge waste of time. 15 years ago, I used to spend days on end making complicated cards with images, sounds, and formatted with Latex... and having more sides than index cards can have in the 3 conventional physical world.