I think pardo speed is top 10 ish, but his strength will show in championship results. The kid knows how to win championships and at the end of the season, like cooper Webb will surprise people
Prado is a world champion. He knows how to race, he knows how to work. He'll have a decent "250" 1st season. He'll be fast ,but he won't necessarily have the muscle memory of a seasoned tomac or webb. 5-7 with flashes of brilliance in top 3, maybe a heat win. But next year He'll be one of the top 5 guys going for the championship.
Prado immediately noticed how much better Kawi was compared to the ktmgas , all round actually was his genuine experience not just the Whoops widely know the steel frame ktmhuskgas is flawed at doing safely.
So he says, but the word is he is struggling MORE on the Kawi with a full factory package and support than he was on a last minute GasGas satellite team deal… Jorge exaggerates and twists things a lot, I wouldn’t read too much into pre-season honeymoon period quotes. KTM have won plenty of Races and championships…
I feel like all 3 of you guys dislike each other! Wholeheartedly but especially Steve he acts like he really can hardly stand Jason Weigandt, just a feeling lol
Love the show fellas . Great insights for us race fans back in Australia. Looking to see either one of our Aussie riders take Honda through the checkers and on to the championships this year. Can't wait for A1. 🇦🇺👍🏆🇦🇺🙏
I like JT more and more these days. Also can’t understand Steve saying he loves Deano but then backs Friese? Thats like being a cow who funds a steakhouse
Just because he doesn't think a certain move from friese was bad does not mean he agrees with every single other move. Recent friese moves haven't been all bad in my opinion but he has made some horrible moves in the past. I believe that's more the point. Politics has eliminated critical thinking today people are fully supportive or completely against everything ever 😂 there is a whole lot of grey area in every situation.
@ Friese just intentionally tboned Deano 3 weeks ago and broke his collarbone. A week before that he was purposely cross jumping Tomac and Roczen. I’d love to know what kind of m3th you’re smoking my guy, as this guy truly only rides to hurt people.
To answer JT’s question, Villopoto was getting lapped his first year, I believe it happened a few times, he got lapped by Stuart and Reid, and then quickly got it together
Tell us when he got lapped straight up wth no crash 😂 he literally won mxdn on a 250. .against 450s 😂 he wouldn't have gotten lapped if he raced on his 250 😂
@ well it happened several times so I guess you’re gonna have to go back to the 09 season. I can remember one time specifically where he got lapped and Stewart and Reed had just laughed him, and James fell right on the turn in front of him. It was when they had that throwback 1980s style race, I don’t remember if it was San Diego or what. But Villo was lapped at least twice that season without a crash. He absolutely sucked his rookie year until the very last race in Vegas when he turned into the Villopoto, we know.
Jorge came to usa with one goal that year, become mxgp champ. Roczen first supercross he was already full in states. That is a huge difference. I would be SURPRISED if he cannot do regular top 5. You are under estimating Jorge way to much! He looked better then Anderson on track.
@@fleece192but the people who had to learn it and sustained injuries while training says it is unfair not only that but if you wanna be a dog gotta be a dog and you can only be a dog in the whoops
These guys seem to forget prado won a heat race last year which is impressive considering who didn’t win one of those last year I don’t think he is gunna win or anything but he will have starts and he will surprise people
Jett Chase Eli Cooper Hunter Kenny Jason AP - that’s a tough 8 right there. Then you toss in guys like Justin Cooper and Barcia. Then I think you get into Prado territory.
Shame on all 3 of you. Justin Hill signed with Leatt head to toe. Yes he's on KTM and he's fired up ready to go! Fully committed to investing everything he has to do well 2025. You 3 seem clueless
@ He hasn’t surprised anyone in Europe… we all know Jorge is a great rider but he took his time to be really competitive on a 450 and with Herlings and Gajser getting older and crashing/injuring themselves a LOT Jorge has been there to clean up. He is awesome, so I’m splitting hairs, but that’s MX, not SX. In SX he will be a solid top 10 guy with the odd stand out result. Happy to be proven wrong, but that’s how I see it playing out. In MX he is going to have his hands full with Eli, Chase and Jett…
I think the other way around. I am not sure that he will win Mx but I’m sure he will top5 Sx. Why? Because his starts and because he’s a 100% technical rider, pure timing and flow. I think he will shine more in Sx. There will be a contest between him and Jett over skillful moves around the track each round. And he will be hard to pass.
Either add whoops or let riders design tracks like back in the day. Nerfing the sport hurts the sport, they nerfed the balls off football and not only is the overall quality worse but guys are still getting hurt left and right. They’re dangerous sports, they need to be gnarly asf
i will sound insane but i think kawi have signed Jorge for mx titles, they will be signing a phenom for sx next year who will also perform at mx of course, but with Prado being the #1 BET FOR Future 450 mx titles - they are looking for that, if you ask me....
Naaaa broooo. You dont see it. Every mxgp season Jorge wasnt favourite but he showed everyone! I trust he will do top 5 and even better when he is used to it.
Ok I'm going to just throw this out there, not real serious, but just kind of an idea, it's pretty obvious that JT & Steve ain't the best of buddies, and frankly I'm a little tired of watching both of their scowling faces, so I propose the two of them get in the ring & duke it out, winner takes all, looser, get your unprofessional scowling face off my tv. Nuff said!!!
Prado will get his podium! You haven't seen what i have seen in Europe. He was never the favourite in Europe but already has 4 titles. He is extremely technical.
Agree with Steve it's unfortunate JT will be on the he broadcast next year, his attitude stinks, let's hope we don't do this pod with Steve or JT next year
Love all your thoughts and opinions but can the three of you cheer up. Get excited for the season. It’s like a stand off of who’s more serious. Is it the I told you show. 🫡
Jorge will have moments, some shining and some learning, I like the guy, SX is tough, you can't just smash through it, I'm excited for A-1!!!
Bring the damn whoops back! There are more injuries in corners and off jumps then whoops!
9 whoops are good.
@@fleece192troll
@@fleece192 Nope, it's boring. Make it 10
i think we need 2 sets of 9 whoops!
@@kevinmiracle8233 Let's Go!
I think pardo speed is top 10 ish, but his strength will show in championship results. The kid knows how to win championships and at the end of the season, like cooper Webb will surprise people
I like how you guys give low odds for Prado. If I was him that is what I would like.
He deserves low expectations. Let him come in and learn without too much pressure.
He gets good starts which will help him learn pace of top 5 guys, but finish will probably be p7-9
I see Prado around 7 average but will podium a couple times.
The fact everyone says Jorge is not flying at the test track makes me think he's going to come out and do well !
He is smooth and fast. Looked much better then Anderson. Easy top 5
Good job guys. That’s why we love our dirt bikes and racing. Nothings better 😊
*Pado 7, 11, 12, 13* with No training or practicing. I Think we'll see an improvement this year
Exactly
Right, and he rode safe last year because he wanted mxgp first. Now he committed to US and he will do way better then 10th. Top 5 for sure
Moranz holeshots yess pleasee
Prado is a world champion. He knows how to race, he knows how to work. He'll have a decent "250" 1st season. He'll be fast ,but he won't necessarily have the muscle memory of a seasoned tomac or webb. 5-7 with flashes of brilliance in top 3, maybe a heat win. But next year He'll be one of the top 5 guys going for the championship.
He is way more in shape then Webb. And way way more for then Anderson. Boy is small but an animal.
Late season, after Prado improves and there is the usual attrition... 7-10 at the end of the series.
Great show guys!!
You should introduce Mattress as "former factory mechanic that sued Yamaha for having to work too hard"....own it finally please?
On God... Every damn episode he has to mention he was a factory mechanic as if it means anything. No one cares Steve
@nordica44 ikr...never once mentions how he sued them. Biggest..smallest...tool in the industry
Look for Prado to improve his results as the season progresses
Prado immediately noticed how much better Kawi was compared to the ktmgas , all round actually was his genuine experience not just the Whoops widely know the steel frame ktmhuskgas is flawed at doing safely.
So he says, but the word is he is struggling MORE on the Kawi with a full factory package and support than he was on a last minute GasGas satellite team deal…
Jorge exaggerates and twists things a lot, I wouldn’t read too much into pre-season honeymoon period quotes.
KTM have won plenty of Races and championships…
I feel like all 3 of you guys dislike each other! Wholeheartedly but especially Steve he acts like he really can hardly stand Jason Weigandt, just a feeling lol
Death, Taxes, and Chiz!!!
He won a heat race last year with barely any prep
Hill rocks! !👊🏻
Yea he does.
Love the show fellas . Great insights for us race fans back in Australia. Looking to see either one of our Aussie riders take Honda through the checkers and on to the championships this year.
Can't wait for A1. 🇦🇺👍🏆🇦🇺🙏
Don't worry he will win 😅😅 talking about Jett
I like JT more and more these days. Also can’t understand Steve saying he loves Deano but then backs Friese? Thats like being a cow who funds a steakhouse
Just because he doesn't think a certain move from friese was bad does not mean he agrees with every single other move. Recent friese moves haven't been all bad in my opinion but he has made some horrible moves in the past. I believe that's more the point. Politics has eliminated critical thinking today people are fully supportive or completely against everything ever 😂 there is a whole lot of grey area in every situation.
@ Friese just intentionally tboned Deano 3 weeks ago and broke his collarbone. A week before that he was purposely cross jumping Tomac and Roczen. I’d love to know what kind of m3th you’re smoking my guy, as this guy truly only rides to hurt people.
Friese is an embarrassment to our sport. JT was making fun of Steve.😊
@@JordanEmede_376 you must not be paying good attention, then.
@@moodyshooty when did Steve "back friese " time stamp it, chief.
To answer JT’s question, Villopoto was getting lapped his first year, I believe it happened a few times, he got lapped by Stuart and Reid, and then quickly got it together
No chance, he was getting lapped without a crash no way, whatsoever, ever. he’s one of the all time greats
Tell us when he got lapped straight up wth no crash 😂 he literally won mxdn on a 250. .against 450s 😂 he wouldn't have gotten lapped if he raced on his 250 😂
@ well it happened several times so I guess you’re gonna have to go back to the 09 season. I can remember one time specifically where he got lapped and Stewart and Reed had just laughed him, and James fell right on the turn in front of him. It was when they had that throwback 1980s style race, I don’t remember if it was San Diego or what. But Villo was lapped at least twice that season without a crash. He absolutely sucked his rookie year until the very last race in Vegas when he turned into the Villopoto, we know.
@Thorracer5 his worst finish in his rookie sx season was 9th. He fell. He also won Seattle a couple weeks later.
Jorge came to usa with one goal that year, become mxgp champ. Roczen first supercross he was already full in states. That is a huge difference.
I would be SURPRISED if he cannot do regular top 5. You are under estimating Jorge way to much! He looked better then Anderson on track.
Would we have seen *Stew* go last to first with only 9 whoops? (THIS RULE NEEDS CHANGED!)
Don’t change it. Alot of less injuries
@@fleece192but the people who had to learn it and sustained injuries while training says it is unfair not only that but if you wanna be a dog gotta be a dog and you can only be a dog in the whoops
Wouldn't be surprised if they have an interim 250 manager, the Craig takes over when he retires.
1st year couple holeshot and top fivers maybe
Justin Hills Tampa apperance was 2018
@JT Weston Peick. He went from lapped/almost lapped to podiums.
These guys seem to forget prado won a heat race last year which is impressive considering who didn’t win one of those last year I don’t think he is gunna win or anything but he will have starts and he will surprise people
Got my bets in on sexton and Kenny let’s go racing boys!
Are JT's shoulders both okay? They look asymmetric.
They probably hurt from carrying the preview show
Just look at any mxers shoulders, they all look asymmetrical. Ask me how I know.
Most of us have asymmetric shoulders from broken collar bones in racing .
Steve looks like Sad Steve.. 😥
Him tired.
It's his Anniversary...probably was up all night...
Jett Chase Eli Cooper Hunter Kenny Jason AP - that’s a tough 8 right there. Then you toss in guys like Justin Cooper and Barcia. Then I think you get into Prado territory.
It’s gonna be good
When they are referencing “show 1” or “show 3”
What does that mean?
They’ve done 4 episodes of this, each covering a group of riders.
@ thanks!
How will Jerry Robin do?
15+
Tampa Hill was 2018 boys
Shame on all 3 of you. Justin Hill signed with Leatt head to toe. Yes he's on KTM and he's fired up ready to go! Fully committed to investing everything he has to do well 2025. You 3 seem clueless
JT literally biting his lip when it comes to Vince makes the show
Trey Canard 2007 CR250R
Shane, Joey, and Justin will be battling for 10th. It's gonna be awesome.
You mean 13th
Brock Tickle on this KX250
tampa 2018** justin hill
bring back more than 9 whoops the guys coming up will never blitz them if they just make it a 3-3-3 rhythm
PRADO. You will have to re-post this video adjusting your forecasts. He is consistent top-5 this year.
Agreed. This years show has some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard though.
Consistent top 5?! Madness. Absolutely no chance.
Exactly man! Jorge is way better then these people here see. He surprised everybody in Europe.
@ He hasn’t surprised anyone in Europe… we all know Jorge is a great rider but he took his time to be really competitive on a 450 and with Herlings and Gajser getting older and crashing/injuring themselves a LOT Jorge has been there to clean up. He is awesome, so I’m splitting hairs, but that’s MX, not SX. In SX he will be a solid top 10 guy with the odd stand out result. Happy to be proven wrong, but that’s how I see it playing out.
In MX he is going to have his hands full with Eli, Chase and Jett…
I think the other way around. I am not sure that he will win Mx but I’m sure he will top5 Sx. Why? Because his starts and because he’s a 100% technical rider, pure timing and flow. I think he will shine more in Sx. There will be a contest between him and Jett over skillful moves around the track each round. And he will be hard to pass.
Makes whoops great again. The people voted and spoke. We want big gnarly whoops. No more 9 jumper whoops plz.
26:15 is she being serious or is she drunk. Can we get an update on the Cooper Webb taking all the money situation
You all forget JMB 😜 that was humiliating for you guys i get it.
I miss Daniel Blair so bad.
Either add whoops or let riders design tracks like back in the day. Nerfing the sport hurts the sport, they nerfed the balls off football and not only is the overall quality worse but guys are still getting hurt left and right. They’re dangerous sports, they need to be gnarly asf
i will sound insane but i think kawi have signed Jorge for mx titles, they will be signing a phenom for sx next year who will also perform at mx of course, but with Prado being the #1 BET FOR Future 450 mx titles - they are looking for that, if you ask me....
I could see that !, I know Andersons ride relies on this year , hopefully he can put in some solid results
I think they go for Chase Sexton next year
Are you saying Prado is the number 1 guy for MX out of everyone or just the Kawi team? Because I don't see him beating Jett, Sexton, or even Hunter.
@@seanhaberman4619 Best option they had available to chase that title at the moment. None of those 3 are free agents looking for a ride.
@@seanhaberman4619 you don’t think the two time mxgp champ can beat hunter or chase? 😂
Any opinions where chase sexton will be on 2026 cause you know he has already been approached by atleast one team maybe more idk..
“Hor-gay” prado is crazy pronunciation 😂 2:56
Prado is 10-15 for now
Naaaa broooo. You dont see it. Every mxgp season Jorge wasnt favourite but he showed everyone! I trust he will do top 5 and even better when he is used to it.
@Rihno377 I'm sure he will get some top 5s eventually but for at least the start of the season, a top 10 would be a win for him
Ok, finally no Jett over-ride on this show!!! 🎉 😂
but you have to mention his name LOL
mathis= loser
bruh....why?
Wish they would get ride of the 250 point out rule, and let some guys who are 250 riders stay in that class instead of them retiring.
Putting Prado 8,9,10? Come on. You 3 over-rated all the 450 guys. There aren’t 8 guys in 450 who will beat Prado.
Top 5 easy
1 top 5 in a mudder only for prado. Thats it for 2025 imo
Or if half the top guys get hurt by the end of the year. And that's still a maybe
No man. Top 5 easy. Mark my words.
Please no more Friese
irregardless isnt a word.
Ok I'm going to just throw this out there, not real serious, but just kind of an idea, it's pretty obvious that JT & Steve ain't the best of buddies, and frankly I'm a little tired of watching both of their scowling faces, so I propose the two of them get in the ring & duke it out, winner takes all, looser, get your unprofessional scowling face off my tv. Nuff said!!!
Sell your KTM & buy a pizza.
Prado doesn’t get a single podium
Prado will get his podium! You haven't seen what i have seen in Europe. He was never the favourite in Europe but already has 4 titles. He is extremely technical.
So sick of hearing about jet
Jett,,,Jett,,,Jett,,,jett,,,jett,,,wins the championship,,jett,,,jett,,,jett,,,jett,,,two time six champion,,jett,,,jett,,,jett
@keithtracey338 hahaha, nice love it
Craig is out
BETA!
Tried to listen for 10 minutes but these absolute nobodies making fun of riders is not the content for me
These are not nobodies.
They spend most of their time making fun of eachother..
You take yourself pretty seriously... it's just dirt bike racing
/s
Okay then, come back when you can make a complete sentence.
Hor-gay Prado 😂😂
Agree with Steve it's unfortunate JT will be on the he broadcast next year, his attitude stinks, let's hope we don't do this pod with Steve or JT next year
I love how they treat Steve he’s such a pice of crap
You do know they are just joking right? They don’t treat him badly at all…
Protecting the athletes ruins sports look at football now totally gay
I refuse to watch when Steve Ihate America Mathis is on. You guys don't read your comments, do you.
I’m sure they are gutted that you’re “not watching” 🤦🏼♂️😂
The sleeper none of you talked about is Justin Cooper, He is Fast
He just needs the stamina he hole shots all the time
Love all your thoughts and opinions but can the three of you cheer up. Get excited for the season. It’s like a stand off of who’s more serious. Is it the I told you show. 🫡