Funny how perception can vary. I drove the exact same car less than one month ago. I have found the seat extrememly confortable and well suited to the car (1.73m, 65kg, sport oriented person, no slouch back and coming from a Civic hatch with very firm and bolstered seats), I have found the controls big, chuncky and extremely easy to operate (no pb with the clock, neither the info system), I have found that the noise of the cabin properly managed if you drive normaly and not under rush (i.e. stomp on the gaz on the first straight line)... I hope you will be able to test to the model coming in Europe in April with much modern cabin.
Well said. CVTs are great if people understand how to drive them. Flooring them is pointless as it takes a while for revs to catch up with the speed. Gradual, progressive acceleration is the way
Never understood reviewers who complain about electric boots and how it slows down you heading off. You push the close button, by the time you get into the car get your seatbelt on start the engine the boot is closed. Get over it
Reviewers examine cars based on the other cars they drive. I've driven hundreds of cars and a lot of them have electric boot lids. The Subaru boot lid is slow in comparison to others at both opening and closing and that might be important to a consumer when buying the car, failing to point it out is being a poor reviewer. Get over it.
@@BobFlavinVideo Just expressing my opinion. My parents have a car with an automated tailgate. Not once have i seen them stand and stare at it close. They press the button and go get in the car and prepare for their journey. Regardless of how quick or slow a tailgate is, it doesn't delay you leaving your location any slower.
Very true that. It doesn't give you any better fuel economy either. Totally pointless. I won't ever get a Subaru hybrid. Remember they will stop making them in a decade or so. Imagine the trade in value by then when nobody wants hybrids !
Bob, they say "The first Subaru you'll buy is the hardest!" After that you probably won't drive anything else? Perhaps the 'Forester' is a better bet? Any chance of you testing an "XV" anytime soon? Getting 'loaners from Subaru Ireland' nigh impossible!!! I had a Subaru when living in New England and loved it. I'm positive there are people in Ireland who never heard the word, 'Subaru' or they even exist and make cars!
So Subaru needs the following in order to become more successful in Ireland. 1. Fit a proper car seat it is the first thing I check when trying a car. Like so many people I have a bad back (from poor car seats I recon). 2. Swap out the CVT gearbox 3. You need a dealer network, there’s nothing in Dublin as far as I can see!
Hey! I have a new suggestion to try out during the cockpit review part. Could you please try experimenting with new camera angles so we viewers can get a better look. Thank you!😁
Subaru's are fantastic cars...until something needs to be fixed. I had a Legacy 3.0R estate, a 250BHP, AWD auto monster, and I loved it until I had to replace a wheel bearing. What's that? £700 because the ABS sensor needed replacing as well? And that slight leak in your exhaust? Oh, that'll be £200 to fix because it's right next to the CAT, and if we can't fix it you'll need a new CAT and that'll be £1700 to replace. And that was a quote from my local indy that I use for all my cars, not a Subaru dealer. Subaru? Never again.
Subaru (U.K.) are releasing a mild hybrid (HEV) for the Forester and for the XV, but not for the Outback. Subaru should make a BEV, not a HEV. A suitable vehicle would be the Outback as it already has the ground clearance to locate the battery under the floor. This would also mean that there would be no impingement on the boot space by the battery. Two electric motors (one front and one rear) would retain AWD. The battery being under the floor would ensure good weight distribution.
Bob Flavin thanks for your reply. Been having slight problem for a while, when i hit a slope the car seems to shake sideways, and the lean is quite noticable. Took it to dealer during service, they found nothing. Just wondering if anyone have similar problem, because my previous cars dont do this(i own a civic and cx5 before the subaru)
4:25 I'd love to know what 90s car had an infotainment system like this particularly since Apple iPod/iPhone didn't arrive until 2001 and Android didn't arrive until 2008... basically sums up what a terrible, subjective, misinformed review this is 10:40 regarding the whinge about the clock setting, a 10 second Google search found an answer 12:20 comfortable but not comfortable. More nonsense spouted 12:45 unrefined apparently, yet no examples given
Yawn! I have had many cars of different makes over the years, I return to Subaru for reliability and safety. Also they go anywhere. Subaru cars evolve, particularly in safety, the rest just works.
@khalis711...Americans are more and more overwhelmed by higher priced cars...and as the wall street journal showed recently, debt transfer to newer models is rising, not to mention the costs to buy a new car. As far as Americans "having very laid back cars", many drive Audi's and BMW's 'til their warranty's run out, and moving on. Toyota recently finally figured out that they were letting Honda, etc., take sales, due to those poor driving dynamics you are alluding to. So, they finally are starting to build cars with better driving capabilities. Our '17 Prius 3 drives nicely, and our '15 Sienna SE drove more like a sporty car...a good attempt at creating cars that are enjoyable. Thanks for your comment.
@@Loki1815 Having looked at all the options, just yesterday I ordered a new Kia Sorento 2.2 diesel with the eight speed DCT. By the way, my daughter's new kitten [last cat lived 20 years] is named Loki.
@@oddities-whatnot DPF issues are overstated but real. I have five diesel cars with DPF's in the family currently and three of them do very little mileage due to the Covid situation. The Sorento has only done 3000 miles in nearly six months, which is about half or less what I'd expect 'normally'. My daughter has been working from home with her Nissan Qashqai diesel only doing 3500 miles in the last year compared to her normal 10,000, mainly commuting to work, 40 miles a day five days a week. I've also had a couple of older vehicles with DPF and hand on heart I've never had a single DPF issue with any of them. Yet. Must admit though that I haven't yet run one past 70,000 miles, although my Honda 1.6 twin turbo CR-V will soon get there and so will daughter's partner's Honda Civic single turbo, but the latter does more mileage because he still works and commutes and only stopped doing so for about a month last Summer.
My child minder had one of these new in 2017 and I thought it looked a bit dated even then. Too many faults in the overall package for a 2020 purchase, considering the competition at that price
But none of the competition has a boxer engine. They last a lot longer than a traditional four cylinder because the main components stay lubricated more easily, especially from cold start. Less wear and tear. Go and buy something else if you dont like this but this will still be on the road going strong, long after your usual fashion statement car has given up and its been traded in for yet another pretentious waste of money.
We live in America....have driven quite a few Subaru's. Owned a new 2001 5 speed manual....had electrical issues from the start....tire blowouts and quality control issues. They have improved quality the past few years, but have they dealt with the horrible PR concerning head gasket issues, and reported CVT problems? And, Consumer Reports keeps giving them high ratings, so folks buy them, based on CR ratings!. The package for 2020 looks nice, better styling than before, and i guess they HAD to address quality control matters. However, for a company who emphasizes 'safety', why are they loading the dash with electronic gizmo's that take one's attn. from the job of driving?...i know why of course... Marketing! We may still consider a new one...eventually...however our 4th gen prius satisfies in most areas for now. Thanks, and subscribed. And, you are 'forgiven' for driving on the wrong side of the road...LOL.
@@BobFlavinVideo No need to shout Bob. Ads in the middle are a new one on me, I've never seen it anywhere else ( not that I spend a lot of time on RUclips). ads spoil the flow, it's not like watching a 30 minute TV show, ads breaking up a 15 minute clip seem intrusive, just my opinion. We all do what we have to do I guess. I Hope they pay you well, as they make their 10 billion a year and rising. Enjoy your reviews, by the way, although I'm always more interested in how a car drives than the preponderance of time spent reviewing every infotainment system at length
@@johnrees8322 You happily watch a 5-minute ad break every fifteen minutes on TV. Just go make tea or whatever you normally do with ad breaks. They aren't new although there are more ads at this time of the year, just like the telly.
Brilliant review. During a 48 hour test drive windows faulty and CVT is not reliable. Great high beam front lights and rear reclining seats. The new Toyota Camry is a much better choice for the long term
It has fallen so far out of date at this stage that it just isn't worth the money. Volvo will meet your needs with several far more advanced offerings for similar money.
Bob, when you remove the fuel cap, there is a slot to store it inside the fuel cap, rather than letting it dangle and hit the body of the car.
As a soon to be owner thank you for this :)
Funny how perception can vary. I drove the exact same car less than one month ago. I have found the seat extrememly confortable and well suited to the car (1.73m, 65kg, sport oriented person, no slouch back and coming from a Civic hatch with very firm and bolstered seats), I have found the controls big, chuncky and extremely easy to operate (no pb with the clock, neither the info system), I have found that the noise of the cabin properly managed if you drive normaly and not under rush (i.e. stomp on the gaz on the first straight line)... I hope you will be able to test to the model coming in Europe in April with much modern cabin.
Well said. CVTs are great if people understand how to drive them. Flooring them is pointless as it takes a while for revs to catch up with the speed. Gradual, progressive acceleration is the way
My Uncle has on in the states with 57000 miles in two years and he reckons they are bulletproof and servicing is very reasonable.
We live in the countryside and Subaru were the go to car at one time. They seemed to last for ever .Especially the pick up . Now you rarely see one .
I always see a few when I go up to Scotland
Never understood reviewers who complain about electric boots and how it slows down you heading off. You push the close button, by the time you get into the car get your seatbelt on start the engine the boot is closed. Get over it
Reviewers examine cars based on the other cars they drive. I've driven hundreds of cars and a lot of them have electric boot lids. The Subaru boot lid is slow in comparison to others at both opening and closing and that might be important to a consumer when buying the car, failing to point it out is being a poor reviewer.
Get over it.
@@BobFlavinVideo Just expressing my opinion. My parents have a car with an automated tailgate. Not once have i seen them stand and stare at it close. They press the button and go get in the car and prepare for their journey. Regardless of how quick or slow a tailgate is, it doesn't delay you leaving your location any slower.
Wasn't there a manual to check how to set the clock?
The clock. It probably synchronises itself by either using the emergency call system, if fitted, or through Bluetooth from any connected smartphone.
Review the new Forester, it's a hybrid though the battery doesn't make it accelerate any quicker.
It's on the way, I've had a spin so don't hold out much hope of a good review
@@BobFlavinVideo I had planned trading in my current Forester with a 2020 model but it loses its spare wheel for a battery. No spare, no thanks.
Very true that. It doesn't give you any better fuel economy either. Totally pointless. I won't ever get a Subaru hybrid. Remember they will stop making them in a decade or so. Imagine the trade in value by then when nobody wants hybrids !
Bob, they say "The first Subaru you'll buy is the hardest!" After that you probably won't drive anything else? Perhaps the 'Forester' is a better bet? Any chance of you testing an "XV" anytime soon? Getting 'loaners from Subaru Ireland' nigh impossible!!! I had a Subaru when living in New England and loved it. I'm positive there are people in Ireland who never heard the word, 'Subaru' or they even exist and make cars!
So Subaru needs the following in order to become more successful in Ireland.
1. Fit a proper car seat it is the first thing I check when trying a car. Like so many people I have a bad back (from poor car seats I recon).
2. Swap out the CVT gearbox
3. You need a dealer network, there’s nothing in Dublin as far as I can see!
Forester and XV are supposedly fantastic though.
I had an injected 3.00 flat 6 Outback, a 2.5 turbo flat 4 XTE and an injected 3.0 flat 6 SVX, all great bullet proof cars.
Hey! I have a new suggestion to try out during the cockpit review part. Could you please try experimenting with new camera angles so we viewers can get a better look. Thank you!😁
Johan Ek tripod mounted on the back seat? But then we wouldn’t see Bobs mush so to speak..😂
@@IrishFoxHound Something like that! Or a separate camera person! Either way, hes making great content!
thanks Bob great reviews as always
This was helpful
My Legacy want to be my last car: it want to live for ever💟
Subaru's are fantastic cars...until something needs to be fixed. I had a Legacy 3.0R estate, a 250BHP, AWD auto monster, and I loved it until I had to replace a wheel bearing. What's that? £700 because the ABS sensor needed replacing as well? And that slight leak in your exhaust? Oh, that'll be £200 to fix because it's right next to the CAT, and if we can't fix it you'll need a new CAT and that'll be £1700 to replace. And that was a quote from my local indy that I use for all my cars, not a Subaru dealer.
Subaru? Never again.
@@carsonj1 No, but I know they are cheaper to repair.
No Super Unleaded in Ireland?
49 grand? And people complain about the Duster which is less than half the price and better on fuel.
WhiskyPentruFete And the Subaru is a more premium and bigger car
Subaru (U.K.) are releasing a mild hybrid (HEV) for the Forester and for the XV, but not for the Outback.
Subaru should make a BEV, not a HEV. A suitable vehicle would be the Outback as it already has the ground clearance to locate the battery under the floor. This would also mean that there would be no impingement on the boot space by the battery.
Two electric motors (one front and one rear) would retain AWD.
The battery being under the floor would ensure good weight distribution.
The technology is simply not there yet to have it in everything.
I need some advice here, if anyone have the same problem. Does your outback, when you close any door, the car shakes?
Yes they all do that. It's not such much of a problem but more of a design system. Unless something is broken I wouldn't worry about a shaking car.
Bob Flavin thanks for your reply. Been having slight problem for a while, when i hit a slope the car seems to shake sideways, and the lean is quite noticable. Took it to dealer during service, they found nothing. Just wondering if anyone have similar problem, because my previous cars dont do this(i own a civic and cx5 before the subaru)
Pity you didn’t explore it’s of road capabilities.👍🏻
4:25 I'd love to know what 90s car had an infotainment system like this particularly since Apple iPod/iPhone didn't arrive until 2001 and Android didn't arrive until 2008... basically sums up what a terrible, subjective, misinformed review this is
10:40 regarding the whinge about the clock setting, a 10 second Google search found an answer
12:20 comfortable but not comfortable. More nonsense spouted
12:45 unrefined apparently, yet no examples given
When saw it first thought it was a focus
Yawn! I have had many cars of different makes over the years, I return to Subaru for reliability and safety. Also they go anywhere. Subaru cars evolve, particularly in safety, the rest just works.
That car is due to be replaced. Already has in the USA.
What ?
...No Witchita Lineman 🤣
Far far away.....sorry, couldn’t resist
That outback was designed for Americans in mind..they won’t mind having a very laid back car 😄
@khalis711...Americans are more and more overwhelmed by higher priced cars...and as the wall street journal showed recently, debt transfer to newer models is rising, not to mention the costs to buy a new car. As far as Americans "having very laid back cars", many drive Audi's and BMW's 'til their warranty's run out, and moving on. Toyota recently finally figured out that they were letting Honda, etc., take sales, due to those poor driving dynamics you are alluding to. So, they finally are starting to build cars with better driving capabilities. Our '17 Prius 3 drives nicely, and our '15 Sienna SE drove more like a sporty car...a good attempt at creating cars that are enjoyable. Thanks for your comment.
CVT! End of!
Huw, couldn't agree with you more, moving with times, welcome to the 21st century!
@@Loki1815
Having looked at all the options, just yesterday I ordered a new Kia Sorento 2.2 diesel with the eight speed DCT.
By the way, my daughter's new kitten [last cat lived 20 years] is named Loki.
@@hedydd2 nice car but for me a diesel wouldn't be any good as I don't do many miles. I don't fancy DPF issues
@@oddities-whatnot
DPF issues are overstated but real. I have five diesel cars with DPF's in the family currently and three of them do very little mileage due to the Covid situation. The Sorento has only done 3000 miles in nearly six months, which is about half or less what I'd expect 'normally'. My daughter has been working from home with her Nissan Qashqai diesel only doing 3500 miles in the last year compared to her normal 10,000, mainly commuting to work, 40 miles a day five days a week. I've also had a couple of older vehicles with DPF and hand on heart I've never had a single DPF issue with any of them. Yet.
Must admit though that I haven't yet run one past 70,000 miles, although my Honda 1.6 twin turbo CR-V will soon get there and so will daughter's partner's Honda Civic single turbo, but the latter does more mileage because he still works and commutes and only stopped doing so for about a month last Summer.
My child minder had one of these new in 2017 and I thought it looked a bit dated even then. Too many faults in the overall package for a 2020 purchase, considering the competition at that price
But none of the competition has a boxer engine. They last a lot longer than a traditional four cylinder because the main components stay lubricated more easily, especially from cold start. Less wear and tear. Go and buy something else if you dont like this but this will still be on the road going strong, long after your usual fashion statement car has given up and its been traded in for yet another pretentious waste of money.
We live in America....have driven quite a few Subaru's. Owned a new 2001 5 speed manual....had electrical issues from the start....tire blowouts and quality control issues. They have improved quality the past few years, but have they dealt with the horrible PR concerning head gasket issues, and reported CVT problems? And, Consumer Reports keeps giving them high ratings, so folks buy them, based on CR ratings!. The package for 2020 looks nice, better styling than before, and i guess they HAD to address quality control matters. However, for a company who emphasizes 'safety', why are they loading the dash with electronic gizmo's that take one's attn. from the job of driving?...i know why of course... Marketing! We may still consider a new one...eventually...however our 4th gen prius satisfies in most areas for now. Thanks, and subscribed. And, you are 'forgiven' for driving on the wrong side of the road...LOL.
Not liking the ads in the middle of a review. Never seen that before, right pain in the arse
That would be RUclips trying to PAY me for all the FREE content that I make for YOU.
@@BobFlavinVideo No need to shout Bob. Ads in the middle are a new one on me, I've never seen it anywhere else ( not that I spend a lot of time on RUclips). ads spoil the flow, it's not like watching a 30 minute TV show, ads breaking up a 15 minute clip seem intrusive, just my opinion. We all do what we have to do I guess. I Hope they pay you well, as they make their 10 billion a year and rising. Enjoy your reviews, by the way, although I'm always more interested in how a car drives than the preponderance of time spent reviewing every infotainment system at length
@@johnrees8322 You happily watch a 5-minute ad break every fifteen minutes on TV. Just go make tea or whatever you normally do with ad breaks. They aren't new although there are more ads at this time of the year, just like the telly.
Very old school habit putting in precisely €10 worth of fuel :) why the even money :)
His handing car back so only needs drop,very bad form hand car back on fumes
10euro of petrol,wow last of the big spenders.
Its not gona temp me out of my mitsubishi Outlander.
I prefer the sound of boxer engines, thats why I like Subaru best
I have never driven a car yet with that shit cvt that I have liked !
Ok thanks for letting us know. What a happy chap. Not really any need for the expletive either.
Brilliant review. During a 48 hour test drive windows faulty and CVT is not reliable. Great high beam front lights and rear reclining seats. The new Toyota Camry is a much better choice for the long term
It has fallen so far out of date at this stage that it just isn't worth the money. Volvo will meet your needs with several far more advanced offerings for similar money.
Ok thanks for your input
That's 49 grand I rather buy a Passat
Decent car with a manual box,the autos are crap.
Can't get a manual anymore. Doesn't work with the eyesight system.
Matthew Douglas run a mile then.