Thank you for the discussion though I’m 3 years late! There were so many revelations for me. I only recently discovered the 1951 film adaptation by Jacquline Audry and then read the book. Some of my key moments from this discussion: 8:34 Oh dear, I didn’t know Laura was based on Elenor Roosevelt, in the book she was described by Mlle Cara to be intelligent but downright ugly and dowdily dressed. Strachey was in a vindictive mood perhaps? 23:00 Stacey’s admonishment of the afterword by Susannah Clapp in the 1987 Virago edition of Olivia; that claims Strachey wrote Olivia as a love letter to Gide. When I first read the afterword from some article I thought it was such a freaking cop out! Surely Strachey isn’t a user of homoerotic love to express her hetero love to a gay person. Not sure how Susannah came up with such a convoluted opinion, it quite frankly infuriated me, it was so off putting I almost lost the desire to read the book after that. I’m glad I still did and certainly do not agree with Susannah’s take. Though when I got to the end of the book I too felt like I wanted to toss it anyway, the ending felt so frustratingly unresovled to me. 28:25 Stacey discusses the moment when Olivia and Mlle Julie were about to part, “the tragedy of not doing”. 31:10 Andre explains the passage he read in French that he wasn’t sure translated well in English. It was about what Mlle Julie said to Olivia after the night of the dance. 32:16 Stacey grills Andre about not having a queer writer write the introduction in the newer re-prints 35:23 It’s from Olivia that the women’s music label Olivia Records got its name 43:30 I’ve read a couple reviews/articles that erroneously claimed that Olivia was THE book that inspired CMBYN, but Andre explained that CMBYN was inspired by many other works besides Olivia. 45:13 Andre has a Herman Miller
Esto es maravilloso de escuchar, so many new visions on the book. I am glad to watch and listening this
Thank you for the discussion though I’m 3 years late! There were so many revelations for me. I only recently discovered the 1951 film adaptation by Jacquline Audry and then read the book.
Some of my key moments from this discussion:
8:34
Oh dear, I didn’t know Laura was based on Elenor Roosevelt, in the book she was described by Mlle Cara to be intelligent but downright ugly and dowdily dressed. Strachey was in a vindictive mood perhaps?
23:00
Stacey’s admonishment of the afterword by Susannah Clapp in the 1987 Virago edition of Olivia; that claims Strachey wrote Olivia as a love letter to Gide.
When I first read the afterword from some article I thought it was such a freaking cop out! Surely Strachey isn’t a user of homoerotic love to express her hetero love to a gay person. Not sure how Susannah came up with such a convoluted opinion, it quite frankly infuriated me, it was so off putting I almost lost the desire to read the book after that. I’m glad I still did and certainly do not agree with Susannah’s take.
Though when I got to the end of the book I too felt like I wanted to toss it anyway, the ending felt so frustratingly unresovled to me.
28:25
Stacey discusses the moment when Olivia and Mlle Julie were about to part, “the tragedy of not doing”.
31:10
Andre explains the passage he read in French that he wasn’t sure translated well in English. It was about what Mlle Julie said to Olivia after the night of the dance.
32:16
Stacey grills Andre about not having a queer writer write the introduction in the newer re-prints
35:23
It’s from Olivia that the women’s music label Olivia Records got its name
43:30
I’ve read a couple reviews/articles that erroneously claimed that Olivia was THE book that inspired CMBYN, but Andre explained that CMBYN was inspired by many other works besides Olivia.
45:13
Andre has a Herman Miller
What do you guys think about de movie of 1951?
Stacey is like andre you should have let me write the forward. 😂