You laugh but Konami is listening. "Hey John Johnson! I got an idea how about we make a card like Final Destiny but you take 5 k damage?" "that sounds great Jim!"
@@MrZark Not really. It depends on how it's written. A some of the Dark World cards are written so that the discard is a part of the effect, not a cost. Doug said that the card would "Discard your entire hand... uh, do nothing, take 5000 damage, I dunno [laughs]" If he had said that the card would discard your hand *to* reduce your own life points by 5000, then the discard would be a cost. However, he didn't say it like the discard was meant to be a cost. It seemed more like he was listing off all the effects of the card. So, most likely it would be written like "Pay 5000 LP; discard your entire hand." Or "Discard your entire hand, and if you do, you take 5000 damage."
Though I admit that Canyon isn't a great card, I have to point out that Invincible Fortress' theme wasn't about getting the opponent to attack your defense position monsters at all. Every useful monster card in there has an effect that triggers when they are "Flip Summoned" and not "Flipped Face up". That means you /would/ want to deter your opponents from attacking so you can get an effect off. So the opponent either must attack your face down monsters or risk allowing their effects to trigger - and Canyon punishes that. My 2¢ is all ✌️
Mhm. These days there's no reason to run Canyon when Catapult Zone exists, but Dzeeff is kind of missing the point- you're not trying to get your opponent to take extra damage, you're trying to deter them from attacking.
I remember playing zombies back then, although the only "tournament" I ever did was DS online. I actually did really well with a zombie mill deck, but when I got the Zombie structure deck I was like "wtf is the bone tower even in here?"
What's interesting about Star Boy being the worst card in Fury From the Deep is that even though it is just a bad "win-more" card, the deck was so good at putting big monsters on the field that it was pretty easy to protect it just by sitting other huge monsters on the board. I'm pretty sure the deck came with Terrorking Salmon or Gaga Gagigo, which didn't require a tribute with ALO and hit over 3000 attack with that and Star Boy.
dzeeff ah, I must have already owned them then. I was a big generic Water deck fan back in the day (and I still am!). What cheap beaters did it come with? Rainbow Fish?
nsiderultimaseth rainbow fish, sea serpent warrior and space mambo are all you get in terms of non tribute beaters, only single tributes in the deck are the lvl 6 daedalus and the ice monarch who is also lvl6 so no benefit from ALO
nsiderultimaseth I was just talking about monsters that you could normal summon with no tribute but that's true also, I don't know why I remember it being a lvl 6 lol
They should of given canyon ghe effect "for every face-up monsters that your opponent controls that doesnt attack on their turn, your opponent takes 500 damage"
I activated Pot of Desires in my Chaos Giant deck and my opponent chained Ash Blossom and Beautiful Spring. I was then able to activate it again immediately after I had vanished 10 cards before, and I won the duel with the 2 cards I drew.
Fox Fire??? I mean, yes, it does suck. But in the Structure Deck it actually has some versatility in the form of making Ultimate Baseball Kid easier to play, protecting Solar Flare Dragon, and adding a farewell present onto it with Backfire. It even helped me out a couple of times by boosting Gaia Soul thanks to always returning to the field (well, until Gaia Soul tributing it), and it also always makes me happy when my opponent wastes monster destruction on it. It's generally a very useful card to draw (though most often I just summon it with UFO Turtle) when playing Blaze of Destruction (I like Structure Deck duels, and I play pretty much all of them including Blaze).
Merciless SSJ2 still horrible though. I had a situation where I lost, because I had it on the field but couldn't tribute it! Even if you could play it face down with having the effect working, I wouldn't play it. It's so bad!
Correct me if I'm wrong here But goblin out of the frying pan can be used on quickplay spells that are used by your opponent on your turn And in theory you could use it to trigger an effect that needs a counter trap (counter fairies) Still a bad card tho
Jonathan Nulens Necro comment, but yes. Those are basically the only two uses. Tho, there's special circumstances you could pull too... like if, for some reason, the spell your opp used required them to tribute their only monster or discard their entire hand. They'd lose everything since they still must pay their cost prior to GofFP negating it. Of course if anything they have in the hand or that tributed monster can go off in the GY, yer probably still screwed. It's just not a good card.
Ben Allen but at them time nothing really went off in the graveyard and it was great in counter trap fairys just to get there effects off multiple times a turn and stoped that mst on you continues spells or traps that would negate them
Goblin out of the frying pan could work in the following situations: Forcing an opponent to pay cost again HOPT spells Quick plays activated on your turn
Ancient Gear is pretty bad but it doesn't have shit on Ancient Gear Engineer. The effect would be sort of okay if it was level 4, but to to require a tribute for a 1500/1500 body makes it completely impossible to use effectively, and Geartown which is the only thing that would make it even remotely playable, isn't even in the deck, but even if it was it would still be shit because you put an effect that activates when it attacks on a monster that can't even run over a god damn Rogue Doll and you're better off summoning literally anything else. Honorable mention goes to Ancient Gear Cannon though for making you waste a summon to gain protection from battle traps which every other Ancient Gear has anyway.
There is also Roll Out in that deck. I think that Heavy Mech Support Platform is the only union monster in that deck. It's still more useful than a 100/800 effective normal monster that does something semi-bad .0000000001% of the time.
Roll Out's pretty bad, but it can help you get an additional tribute out for higher level Ancient Gear monsters. Ancient Gear can kinda do that too, assuming you're going first, open two Ancient Gears, and are playing against a molasses deck that only brings out one monster a turn. It's not very good at it, sure, but at least it does a thing that might occasionally help you, rather than just serve as a grim reminder of the living Hell that was the limited MST era. Also, it's not totally relevant since the deck doesn't have any of these, but I still feel like mentioning it anyway. Ancient Gear could also be used as mediocre Synchro fodder, especially when paired with a tuner that can SS out one of your Ancient Gears like Junk Synchron or Red Resonator.
@@GatorRay How to make Ancient Gear better: Take off his wheels and arms and make him a Token. Boom. All the different summon plays you can do with that is pretty neat.
I believe the intended combo with ancient gear was using magnet circle lv2 to bring one out then spec. summon the other, then tribute summon ancient gear golem. Still terrible, but it has some use
have you noticed that your videos about older stuff gets more views? I only watch your stuff that goes over the histories and things unrelated to the meta.
Isn't Ancient Gear there to ... Special Summon it and then use it as Tribute for a bigger Ancient Gear monster? You need another Ancient Gear monster on the field to do so, but you can use Ancient Gear and the monster you need on the field to Special Summon it to get a Level 8 Ancient Gear monster in your second turn. That could not have been that terrible during the time that deck came out.
Yashoku I think the problem with it is that ancient gear has low stats and and requires you to waste your normal summon, not to mention that you have to waste a card if you want to protect it, but that’s just what I think
You missed my point. Imagine it this way: Turn 1: Normal Summon an "Ancient Gear" monster (not "Ancient Gear" itself) and make sure it survives a turn. Turn 2: Use Ancient Gear's effect to Special Summon it from your hand. Tribute the now two monsters you control to Tribute Summon a high-level monster such as "Ancient Gear Golem". The stats of Ancient Gear itself do not matter since you just use its effect to gather Tribute Material. EDIT: My bad, I misread its effect. You actually need "Ancient Gear" on the field not "an Ancient Gear monster". That makes it utter trash indeed.
Ancient Gear requires another copy of itself on the board to get the Special Summon. If it could Special Summon itself if there was any Ancient Gear monster then it wouldn't have been on this list, but unfortunately that's not how it works.
you also forget Magnet Circle LV2 also comes in that structure deck. allowing one to special summon one with the spell then special summon the other by its own effect and badda bing badda boom you have tribute fodder for any of the ancient gears in the rest of the structure deck to summon.
Bone tower was bad at the time. But I feel like it would be decent in a good zombie spam deck now. Especially if we ever get a really good and easy to summon zombie link monster. Think about it. You send 2 cards to your opponents grave every time you special a zombie. Your opponent starts with 35 cards in there deck. That means you only need to summon the bone tower and then special summon a total of 18 zombies. Generic zombie spam shouldn't have much of a problem doing that. The biggest issue would be getting the bone tower out first. And if your opponent is stupid enough to drop Maxx c then your job is even easier.
You definitely don't need to get the full 18 zombies to win with the card, but the problem is that if you're not KOing your opponent immediately then it is actively hurting you. A generic zombie spam deck is using the zombies to fuel the extra deck and having to summon the bone tower will replace what could have been a Plaguespreader, Mezuki or Uni-Zombie. If your opponent is running Lawnmowing or 60 card to counter Lawnmowing, then your summon count jumps up to an unrealistic 28. So running the bone tower clogs up your deck, will probably cost you the game in most match-ups if it misfires and will require drastically different tuning depending on whether your opponent likes the 40 or 60 cards more. It may be an okay sideboard choice, but I have no idea what decks are slow or squeamish of the grave enough to justify bringing it in. And lastly, Fairy Tail - Snow.
maxie fuqua Well if you get two bone towers on the board they aren’t targetable for attacks. Gives you a lot of time to stall while you crash and summon zombies to mill.
I disagree with Canyon, tbh. While not great, it is more of a psychological deterrent. Most of the rock monsters in that deck rely on you being able to flip summon the monsters each turn to interrupt their board further. I will say though, putting a Catapult Zone in it when I modified it... well, did someone say Megarock Dragon?
Burning Abyss + Self Destruct Button would be a sick turn 1/2 combo. Set Self Destruct button and then summon Burning Abyss, you can still activate the trap but now since you took 5000 damage you can activate Self Destruct Button. Just activate it as soon as they draw and GG.
What? Canyon is not the worst card in the deck, because of the reasons you named. You don't want anyone to attack your defense position monsters, becaues their effects only trigger on flip summon. The damage you deal is trivial anyways, but with Canyon your opponent might at least think about not attacking. I'd say Shifting Shadows and Moai Interceptor Cannons are much worse.
thePisccu It's ironic that you singled those two cards out because they do the same thing as Canyon: discourage your opponent from attacking your flip summon monsters. Shifting Shadows allows you to play mind games with your opponent and prevent them from singling a monster like Guardian Statue, and Moai helps with that by giving you an expendable 2000 wall that can flip itself face-down and be reused with Shifting Shadows. So now, every time your opponent attacks your face-down, they have a 50% chance of hitting your Moai and not your Guardian Statue/Guardian Sphinx (if you can actually summon it). There's also burn synergy with Exxod but that's not important.
Is it just me, is "Soul Absorbing Bone Tower" based off of the "Schema Del Purgatorio Dantesco" -- the cornices, and the souls "tending up toward [wherever Yugioh cards go...] the afterlife" seem indicative of this. In addition, "someone" at Konami certainly seem fascinated by of works of Dante Alighieri [i.e. the burning abyss archetype]. It would be interesting to see iconography based off of Alighieri's works, several formats before the initial release of the burning abyss archetype.
One use I can think of for Goblin Out of the Frying Pan is in certain Spell Counter Decks that gain Spell Counters en masse whenever *either* Duelist activates a Spell Card, to make the opponent activate their Spell twice in order to reap twice the Spell Counters, and on their turn, hopefully fueling some protection Effect(s) that keep said Spell from annihilating your field and your opponent from annihilating you. :3 (Obviously a casual fun strategy in a casual fun mechanic.)
Cobalt Blue When you say "was", do you mean that it was in context of its time and its place in a "ready-to-Duel" preconstructed Deck, or that it's still the worst card in the Deck? I think that Genesis now has a purpose thanks to the Vampire archetype, with which he synergizes nicely, and the ability we now have to recover banished Vampire Lords. :3
Man I loved that Dinosaur deck, it was like the deck I always dreamed of but never got because certain monster types got shit on and never get any love.
Victor Khan Pikeru needs and deserves her own Deck to reach her full potential, not to be shoehorned into a half-baked Dark Magician Structure Deck, amirite? :3
I have watched this video a dozen times, but I just now noticed the title cards, hahaha. Hopefully, there have been enough structure decks released to have a part five! Love you, Dzeeff
Any of the vanilla monster like starboys who boost its attribute attack by 500, I used to love them all, I was always using united we stand on these monsters to make big beaters out of them that will stay long on the field and boosts the other monsters WHILE getting boosted themselves by the other monsters at the same time cause of united we stand
Loving this series. Man, that goblin card sucks balls. You basicaly pay 500 lp for a deja vu, just to see your opponent says that he activates his spell one more time. I guess it's used when people like their opponents voice like "I activate pot of greed!" "Wow! Your voice is amazing saying that! Do it again, I pay 500 points for that!".
Soul Absorbing Bone Tower has a new FTK with Imperial Iron Wall and Vendread Revenants. You can also splash Slifer and Give and Take to force the loop.
Dark Magician archetype gets a new effect monster at level 2 simply called “Dark Magician”. Its effect says,”If this card is on the field for 7 turns, special summon a level 4 or lower ‘Dark Magician’ from your extra deck.” It has 0 attack and 0 defense. Not to mention the confusion that it would have due to the original Dark Magician.
The idea of the ancient gear I believe is to special summon it out from your graveyard with the ancient gear castle in that deck (I think that was what it was called.) Use the effect of one in your hand to special summon a second, and then immediately tribute both into an ancient gear golem summon. Just it's not particularly easy to do that.
>Malfunction at least your opponent can't activate the trap card Tell that to the ds games. I lost because the com used the trap immediately after i used malfunction. Negate trap, reset it, com immediately activates the trap again.
The Bone Tower did have quite the synergy with this deck, it had a secondary mill strategy. Cards like Goblin Zombie and the Vampires indicate this. It was kind of the gimmick slapped on Zombie type monsters back then, a lot of the time they would either special summon something from grave or mill something from your opponents deck.
The only use i can see Goblin out if the frying pan to have is against a ritual spell card to get your opponent to tribute monsters twice. And even then, i'm not sure if that would work out rulings wise.
Malfunction is the same thing as Goblin Out of the Frying Pan but for trap cards. It does not Set the card. It returns it to its original position, which is not Setting. Those 2 are only good for 1) Making the opponent pay twice 2) Stop "use..once per turn" Spell/Trap Cards (but of course there is always the next turn) 3) Finding a suitable corner to cry in.
zombie madness was the first structure deck I ever purchased, and this was back when I was first starting out in yugioh and couldn't grasp the idea that deckbuilding was more complicated than "keeping putting random combos in your deck until you have 40 cards". Witnessing first hand how much better this deck functioned vs all my previous attempts was eye opening.
For the time, most of these decks were pretty cool. Some I remember being better than others. These decks were a very welcome change from the decks we got before them, the character starter decks, and the character evolution decks (though the evolution decks were a little better than the character decks). Still, these decks actually had strategies to them, even though they weren't all good strategies, but it's better than what the original decks had to offer us. I take it back a little about the first character decks being bad, but starter decks Joey and Pegasus actually gave us monsters with effects. They still didn't give us much for strategy, though more than what starter decks Yugi and Kaiba gave us.
I think the purpose of Ancient Gear's effect is to already have an Ancient Gear monster on the field and special summon this one, and then tribute both for a high level Ancient Gear monster, like Golem or Hydra. However, its effect is rendered useless by the fact that Geartown and Ancient Gear Catapult can easily special summon your higher level Ancient Gear monsters. Not to mention, many of the fusion support that it received in the past years pretty much rendered the Tribute summon aspect of Ancient Gears obsolete.
Poor Fairy of the Spring...If only they just made a second copy of...What was a good Equip card in that deck? Axe of Despair? I hope so. Also notice, Ancient Gear is the worst Ancient Gear card and Harpie Girl is the worst Harpie Girl card.
dzeeff no the other ancient gear. That way you have 2 tributes instead of one. Still bad though because the field makes it a single tribute anyway but say you got the soldier out. He survives a turn, next turn drop gear tribute both for golem. Ultimately pointless and conditional but it had a point
A lot of people seem to not realize Ancient Gear can only SS if there's another copy of itself on the board, not just any Ancient Gear monster. It only works with the second copy of the card called Ancient Gear, not archetype monsters.
Oh shit, I actually did miss that you have to control another copy of it to special it. I was like "nowadays this ain't that bad, summon Wyvern search this, special it, make Missus Radiant.. sounds okay". That's actually just audacious. How could it?
Goblin out of the Frying Pan is usable against quick-plays that require specific timing to be useful...cards like Enemy Controller, Rush Recklessly, and Emergency Provisions come to mind.
I'm not trying to imply that this card is so good that you should play it all of the time. I'm just saying that this card isn't trash if your playing it in the right kind of deck. Sadly, the kind of deck that this card needs to be a part of in order to shine is just obsolete.
Ancient gear would be okay if there was a way to cheat the first one out of your deck so you could special summon the second one and tribute summon ancient gear golem, but since you have to draw both ancient gears and then normal summon one of them it is complete trash in the structure deck
Canyon’s effect is pretty helpful if you got the right cards, tho. If you got Battle Mania and your opponent only has monsters with lower attack than your rock monster’s defense, you have a chance to OTK them without lifting a finger
White Magician Pikeru - pretty sure I've used that in one of my older Fire Princess decks, so there's that at least Harpie Girl - somewhat useful for Harpie's Pet Baby Dragon Ancient Gear - Might've been useful for easy Rank 2 XYZ Summonings, but I don't know how often those are done anymore since Link Summoning & the new rules regarding it were introduced >_>
You had me thinking of a card with this written effect: Discard your entire hand. Take 7900 damage. You cannot play any more cards this turn. Does absolutely nothing else. You add it to your deck, you play, it, and your opponent dies laughing. You won the game.
goblin out of the frying pan could stop set spells, like if you were against a machine deck and they set limiter removal for you to attack into. still doesnt make it a useable card but, that is something for it.
Dzeef have you ever heard of the card called inmato that has such a bad effect it might as well be a normal monster. I mean they are 2 card archetype with 1 of them only being ok at best. Obviously they dont even have any individual tops
I've actually used Goblin Out of the Frying Pan against decks that rely on Desires. It's pretty nasty against ABC, since they never want to Pot twice for fear of losing 3x one of their pieces.
Fairy of the Spring was obviously intended to go with generic staple Equips such as Premature Burial and Snatch Steal back when they were legal, which I think explains the restriction.
I absolutely love Fury From The Deep. I got it when I was seven and I've used it since. I don't think Star Boy is really the worst. For one, it can still attack with Gravity Binding, even if ALO isn't on. It also really helps out your Mermaid Knight and Burguroth. But Unshaven Anglar sucks. The only reason you'd ever need it is to summon Daedalus without ALO, which doesn't come up often.
for fox fire I can see why it can be bad but to chain it with backfire double with dark room of nightmare yeah let say you fet a 1500 dmg bit you counter with 800(backfire +dsrk room) then it come bsck so you can start your combo with Solar flsre dragon I guess it can be pretty good
@dzeeff Its very clear ancient gear is a bad card, but what about ancient gear decks? specifically, the ones centered around fusion summoning giant beat sticks and OTKing your opponent, I doubt in modern yugioh they'd be considered competitive but... what are your thoughts on them? mostly curious because was playing one(for fun) on ygopro and was surprised at how often I actually won, small sample size so suspect it was a fluke but would still like to get the opinion of someone that follows competitive yugioh
It’s been a while since I played.. can you special summon and then tribute summon? If so, there may be some use for ancient gear in setting a gear, passing, flipping, specialing, then tributing to get a stronger monster out on turn two.
dzeeff I mean, the risk of uncovering a higher def monster than 800 might actually lead your opponent not to attack on their first turn. Like, if I only managed a 1000-1500 atk summon, I might not try to attack a face-down mon.
@@bob513993 Most of the time they're either going to blow it up with a card effect or just summon Utopia the Killjoy if they really feel its that imporant
I mean... Goblin out if the Frying Pan does have one other fringe use. If your opponent has a Quick Play spell set on the field and they use it on your turn, you can negate it. Not a fantastic use, but... still a use, I guess.
The silly thing is, that Burning Abyss card would probably not only be usable as a gimmicky tech choice in Burning Abyss, but also Infernities if not for the fact that they have better options.
I know Goblin Out of the Frying Pan is bad, but your opponent going -10 and having to decide if they can survive losing another 10 off Desires is the funniest shit.
News flash on acient gear it could be good for link summoning got it special summoning eff off of hand if you control another ancient gear and using it for link summoning and not fusion summon at least.
discard your entire hand; take 500 damage hahahahahahaha
You laugh but Konami is listening.
"Hey John Johnson! I got an idea how about we make a card like Final Destiny but you take 5 k damage?" "that sounds great Jim!"
It could work in Dark World.
I wanna send myself directly into the graveyard.
It couldn't, because you're discarding your hand as the cost to take 500 damage, and dark worlds do not activate as costs
@@MrZark Not really. It depends on how it's written.
A some of the Dark World cards are written so that the discard is a part of the effect, not a cost. Doug said that the card would "Discard your entire hand... uh, do nothing, take 5000 damage, I dunno [laughs]"
If he had said that the card would discard your hand *to* reduce your own life points by 5000, then the discard would be a cost. However, he didn't say it like the discard was meant to be a cost. It seemed more like he was listing off all the effects of the card. So, most likely it would be written like
"Pay 5000 LP; discard your entire hand."
Or
"Discard your entire hand, and if you do, you take 5000 damage."
"Discard your entire hand, do nothing, take 5000 damage"
Jakob Eklund that shit had me rolling
Dark worlds maybe?
Banish your entire deck face-down: Draw one card.
Aside from the damage, would that actually be that bad in a Burning Abyss deck?
Barrel behind the door?
Though I admit that Canyon isn't a great card, I have to point out that Invincible Fortress' theme wasn't about getting the opponent to attack your defense position monsters at all. Every useful monster card in there has an effect that triggers when they are "Flip Summoned" and not "Flipped Face up". That means you /would/ want to deter your opponents from attacking so you can get an effect off. So the opponent either must attack your face down monsters or risk allowing their effects to trigger - and Canyon punishes that. My 2¢ is all ✌️
Orga777 not for the time when they where printed they worked fine
Catapult zone is INFINITELY better, protect those monsters and fill up the gy for Gigantes and Megarock Dragon
I feel similar for Decoy Dragon.
Mhm. These days there's no reason to run Canyon when Catapult Zone exists, but Dzeeff is kind of missing the point- you're not trying to get your opponent to take extra damage, you're trying to deter them from attacking.
9:48 “So maybe like Harpie Girl is fan service to weird people”
~Dzeeff
I took offense to that lol
@@awesomeGenex hahahahaha word
All of the Harpie cards are fanservice to somebody.
... Well, with their original arts, anyway.
Shapesnatch can make Cyber Dragon Nova and Ultimaya Tzolkin. A 3 card turn 2 combo.
The more you know...
And let's not forget that it gifted Rata The one who's Shape was Snatched
Spicy Soul That’s waaay to specific to be used professionally. Which is what he’s basing it on.
But harpies girl can trigger your blue eyes if you know what i mean
Jack 935 sick meme lad
Its amazing a childrens card game is mostly played by 18-45 year olds. Now i can pretend i wont grow old aaaand make innuendos.
Lysergic SmokesDoobies It's really only a "children's card game" in terms of marketing. The game itself is certainly not built for children
edcellwarrior And then there's the times when it tries to be edgy and market itself to teenagers. :3
Some of the card descriptions are so complicated its hard to think its designed for children lol.
"Discard your entire hand and take 5000 damage"
I'd run it
Man, I loved Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower. Remember getting two out, and using Turtle to crash to mill and get out Vampire Lord, etc.
Atsuko Kagari Or using it in conjunction with Spirit Reaper.
Jake Cullison That was just evil. LOL
Oh its a good card, it just didnt fit well into the main deck theme
I remember playing zombies back then, although the only "tournament" I ever did was DS online.
I actually did really well with a zombie mill deck, but when I got the Zombie structure deck I was like "wtf is the bone tower even in here?"
stars can brick too
Marek Minar look what have you done
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Nice Duel Links reference haha
*CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM CHOWDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Mistar Boy
Discard your hand pay 500 do nothing
Lol
matthew garcia Discards hand summons any Dark World Monster from grave.
No you pay 500 life to discard your hand.
Jonathan 6 X Only some of them, the rest you need your opponent to make you discard.
One with nothing?
Infernities...
Simorgh is worts than harpie... At least you can summon her
What's interesting about Star Boy being the worst card in Fury From the Deep is that even though it is just a bad "win-more" card, the deck was so good at putting big monsters on the field that it was pretty easy to protect it just by sitting other huge monsters on the board. I'm pretty sure the deck came with Terrorking Salmon or Gaga Gagigo, which didn't require a tribute with ALO and hit over 3000 attack with that and Star Boy.
+nsiderultimaseth Sadly the deck didn't come with either of those :(
dzeeff ah, I must have already owned them then. I was a big generic Water deck fan back in the day (and I still am!). What cheap beaters did it come with? Rainbow Fish?
nsiderultimaseth rainbow fish, sea serpent warrior and space mambo are all you get in terms of non tribute beaters, only single tributes in the deck are the lvl 6 daedalus and the ice monarch who is also lvl6 so no benefit from ALO
Alex DiazdeLeon Dedalus is level 7, so it does benefit from ALO.
nsiderultimaseth I was just talking about monsters that you could normal summon with no tribute but that's true also, I don't know why I remember it being a lvl 6 lol
starboy tha homie fuck yall
They should of given canyon ghe effect "for every face-up monsters that your opponent controls that doesnt attack on their turn, your opponent takes 500 damage"
Pot of desires
Chain Goblin out of the Frying Pan
Pot is now neg 18
Actually it would be a neg 19.
Opponent summons gren Maju.... well then
I activated Pot of Desires in my Chaos Giant deck and my opponent chained Ash Blossom and Beautiful Spring. I was then able to activate it again immediately after I had vanished 10 cards before, and I won the duel with the 2 cards I drew.
Ethan Hayden that’s not how card advantage works
if he chained ash to your desires you cant activate another one since you activated one already, and desires has a "can only activate 1 per turn".
Fox Fire???
I mean, yes, it does suck. But in the Structure Deck it actually has some versatility in the form of making Ultimate Baseball Kid easier to play, protecting Solar Flare Dragon, and adding a farewell present onto it with Backfire. It even helped me out a couple of times by boosting Gaia Soul thanks to always returning to the field (well, until Gaia Soul tributing it), and it also always makes me happy when my opponent wastes monster destruction on it. It's generally a very useful card to draw (though most often I just summon it with UFO Turtle) when playing Blaze of Destruction (I like Structure Deck duels, and I play pretty much all of them including Blaze).
Merciless SSJ2 this guy gets it
Yeah im sure each of those structure decks has atleast one Spell/Trap that is way worse than fox fire
It also always comboed well with Stumbling.
Merciless SSJ2 still horrible though. I had a situation where I lost, because I had it on the field but couldn't tribute it! Even if you could play it face down with having the effect working, I wouldn't play it. It's so bad!
yeah I don't think Dzeef has played a lot of games with these decks lol
Correct me if I'm wrong here
But goblin out of the frying pan can be used on quickplay spells that are used by your opponent on your turn
And in theory you could use it to trigger an effect that needs a counter trap (counter fairies)
Still a bad card tho
Jonathan Nulens Necro comment, but yes. Those are basically the only two uses.
Tho, there's special circumstances you could pull too... like if, for some reason, the spell your opp used required them to tribute their only monster or discard their entire hand. They'd lose everything since they still must pay their cost prior to GofFP negating it. Of course if anything they have in the hand or that tributed monster can go off in the GY, yer probably still screwed.
It's just not a good card.
Ben Allen but at them time nothing really went off in the graveyard and it was great in counter trap fairys just to get there effects off multiple times a turn and stoped that mst on you continues spells or traps that would negate them
Inari Fire is the continuation of Fox Fire and naturally, the art quality of Inari Fire is even higher
Goblin out of the frying pan could work in the following situations:
Forcing an opponent to pay cost again
HOPT spells
Quick plays activated on your turn
Don't hate on Goblin out of the Frying Pan, it kicks ass with Anti-Spell Fragrance.
Ancient Gear is pretty bad but it doesn't have shit on Ancient Gear Engineer.
The effect would be sort of okay if it was level 4, but to to require a tribute for a 1500/1500 body makes it completely impossible to use effectively, and Geartown which is the only thing that would make it even remotely playable, isn't even in the deck, but even if it was it would still be shit because you put an effect that activates when it attacks on a monster that can't even run over a god damn Rogue Doll and you're better off summoning literally anything else.
Honorable mention goes to Ancient Gear Cannon though for making you waste a summon to gain protection from battle traps which every other Ancient Gear has anyway.
Black Frost Yeah...the early Ancient Gear support was... Really bad. I'm so glad ArcV gave the deck playable cards.
There is also Roll Out in that deck. I think that Heavy Mech Support Platform is the only union monster in that deck. It's still more useful than a 100/800 effective normal monster that does something semi-bad .0000000001% of the time.
Roll Out's pretty bad, but it can help you get an additional tribute out for higher level Ancient Gear monsters. Ancient Gear can kinda do that too, assuming you're going first, open two Ancient Gears, and are playing against a molasses deck that only brings out one monster a turn. It's not very good at it, sure, but at least it does a thing that might occasionally help you, rather than just serve as a grim reminder of the living Hell that was the limited MST era.
Also, it's not totally relevant since the deck doesn't have any of these, but I still feel like mentioning it anyway.
Ancient Gear could also be used as mediocre Synchro fodder, especially when paired with a tuner that can SS out one of your Ancient Gears like Junk Synchron or Red Resonator.
@@GatorRay How to make Ancient Gear better:
Take off his wheels and arms and make him a Token. Boom. All the different summon plays you can do with that is pretty neat.
I believe the intended combo with ancient gear was using magnet circle lv2 to bring one out then spec. summon the other, then tribute summon ancient gear golem. Still terrible, but it has some use
have you noticed that your videos about older stuff gets more views?
I only watch your stuff that goes over the histories and things unrelated to the meta.
Raust Zachery Its more relaxing
He should still keep doing videos relevant to the current game. They can be pretty interesting,
Raust Zachery I quit playing around the time Dragon rulers came out. But I still enjoy videos about the good old times.
Yugioh changed and you have your right to dislike it but yugioh is gaining in popularity if anything.
Duel Links is one of the reasons but that doesn't change the fact that people see the modern game and still want to play that.
Isn't Ancient Gear there to ... Special Summon it and then use it as Tribute for a bigger Ancient Gear monster?
You need another Ancient Gear monster on the field to do so, but you can use Ancient Gear and the monster you need on the field to Special Summon it to get a Level 8 Ancient Gear monster in your second turn. That could not have been that terrible during the time that deck came out.
Yashoku I think the problem with it is that ancient gear has low stats and and requires you to waste your normal summon, not to mention that you have to waste a card if you want to protect it, but that’s just what I think
You missed my point. Imagine it this way:
Turn 1: Normal Summon an "Ancient Gear" monster (not "Ancient Gear" itself) and make sure it survives a turn.
Turn 2: Use Ancient Gear's effect to Special Summon it from your hand. Tribute the now two monsters you control to Tribute Summon a high-level monster such as "Ancient Gear Golem".
The stats of Ancient Gear itself do not matter since you just use its effect to gather Tribute Material.
EDIT: My bad, I misread its effect. You actually need "Ancient Gear" on the field not "an Ancient Gear monster". That makes it utter trash indeed.
Ancient Gear requires another copy of itself on the board to get the Special Summon. If it could Special Summon itself if there was any Ancient Gear monster then it wouldn't have been on this list, but unfortunately that's not how it works.
Yes, I misread that. Corrected my first answer under this comment already. :x
I feel like that's how the Ancient Gear *should* work though.
you also forget Magnet Circle LV2 also comes in that structure deck. allowing one to special summon one with the spell then special summon the other by its own effect and badda bing badda boom you have tribute fodder for any of the ancient gears in the rest of the structure deck to summon.
Bone tower was bad at the time.
But I feel like it would be decent in a good zombie spam deck now. Especially if we ever get a really good and easy to summon zombie link monster.
Think about it. You send 2 cards to your opponents grave every time you special a zombie.
Your opponent starts with 35 cards in there deck. That means you only need to summon the bone tower and then special summon a total of 18 zombies.
Generic zombie spam shouldn't have much of a problem doing that. The biggest issue would be getting the bone tower out first.
And if your opponent is stupid enough to drop Maxx c then your job is even easier.
You definitely don't need to get the full 18 zombies to win with the card, but the problem is that if you're not KOing your opponent immediately then it is actively hurting you. A generic zombie spam deck is using the zombies to fuel the extra deck and having to summon the bone tower will replace what could have been a Plaguespreader, Mezuki or Uni-Zombie. If your opponent is running Lawnmowing or 60 card to counter Lawnmowing, then your summon count jumps up to an unrealistic 28.
So running the bone tower clogs up your deck, will probably cost you the game in most match-ups if it misfires and will require drastically different tuning depending on whether your opponent likes the 40 or 60 cards more.
It may be an okay sideboard choice, but I have no idea what decks are slow or squeamish of the grave enough to justify bringing it in.
And lastly, Fairy Tail - Snow.
Especially in Vampires, in which you destroy your opponent's cards with Vampire Kingdom every time you mill their Deck. :3
Present card can finish the job during your opponents main phase or close to making them deck out.
maxie fuqua it was great at the time it was your win con in board stalls you couldn't break
maxie fuqua Well if you get two bone towers on the board they aren’t targetable for attacks. Gives you a lot of time to stall while you crash and summon zombies to mill.
I disagree with Canyon, tbh. While not great, it is more of a psychological deterrent. Most of the rock monsters in that deck rely on you being able to flip summon the monsters each turn to interrupt their board further.
I will say though, putting a Catapult Zone in it when I modified it... well, did someone say Megarock Dragon?
Burning Abyss + Self Destruct Button would be a sick turn 1/2 combo. Set Self Destruct button and then summon Burning Abyss, you can still activate the trap but now since you took 5000 damage you can activate Self Destruct Button. Just activate it as soon as they draw and GG.
Haruhiro Grimgar except self destruct button is never gettin unbanned
What? Canyon is not the worst card in the deck, because of the reasons you named. You don't want anyone to attack your defense position monsters, becaues their effects only trigger on flip summon. The damage you deal is trivial anyways, but with Canyon your opponent might at least think about not attacking. I'd say Shifting Shadows and Moai Interceptor Cannons are much worse.
thePisccu It's ironic that you singled those two cards out because they do the same thing as Canyon: discourage your opponent from attacking your flip summon monsters. Shifting Shadows allows you to play mind games with your opponent and prevent them from singling a monster like Guardian Statue, and Moai helps with that by giving you an expendable 2000 wall that can flip itself face-down and be reused with Shifting Shadows. So now, every time your opponent attacks your face-down, they have a 50% chance of hitting your Moai and not your Guardian Statue/Guardian Sphinx (if you can actually summon it). There's also burn synergy with Exxod but that's not important.
But your opponate doesnt need to attack you and once you play this card we know that your doing a stall.
Ancient gear nowadays (and even back in the day) has one use alone: Tribute/Synchro fodder.
elFacho link summoning too, if you're that desperate
Virtually Dead there are literally entire decks that fulfill that and those roles better than Ancient Gear.
Is it just me, is "Soul Absorbing Bone Tower" based off of the "Schema Del Purgatorio Dantesco" -- the cornices, and the souls "tending up toward [wherever Yugioh cards go...] the afterlife" seem indicative of this. In addition, "someone" at Konami certainly seem fascinated by of works of Dante Alighieri [i.e. the burning abyss archetype]. It would be interesting to see iconography based off of Alighieri's works, several formats before the initial release of the burning abyss archetype.
Fox Fire in a nutshell:
"But you still take the damage!"
One use I can think of for Goblin Out of the Frying Pan is in certain Spell Counter Decks that gain Spell Counters en masse whenever *either* Duelist activates a Spell Card, to make the opponent activate their Spell twice in order to reap twice the Spell Counters, and on their turn, hopefully fueling some protection Effect(s) that keep said Spell from annihilating your field and your opponent from annihilating you. :3
(Obviously a casual fun strategy in a casual fun mechanic.)
honorable mentions for mesmeric control in the dinosaur deck
Goblin out of the frying pan, while useless, can stop quick play spells during your turn. That is the intended use, I believe.
jaythephoenix and counter trap fairys so you could counter the sane spell more than once to get more value
Soul absorbing bone tower was my favorite card...the worst in that deck was vampire genesis TBH.
Cobalt Blue When you say "was", do you mean that it was in context of its time and its place in a "ready-to-Duel" preconstructed Deck, or that it's still the worst card in the Deck?
I think that Genesis now has a purpose thanks to the Vampire archetype, with which he synergizes nicely, and the ability we now have to recover banished Vampire Lords. :3
Actually now that you put it like that Zombie Tiger is even lower. I can name few cards from this structure that should be in bone towers place.
Man I loved that Dinosaur deck, it was like the deck I always dreamed of but never got because certain monster types got shit on and never get any love.
How dare you disrespecting Pikeru-chan. I pressed dislike twice, one for me, one for Kogarasho
Victor Khan Pikeru needs and deserves her own Deck to reach her full potential, not to be shoehorned into a half-baked Dark Magician Structure Deck, amirite? :3
Victor Khan So then you unliked
So you ended up neutral.
LMFAOOOO!! :D
So we re back to the good stuff?
Nice
I have watched this video a dozen times, but I just now noticed the title cards, hahaha. Hopefully, there have been enough structure decks released to have a part five! Love you, Dzeeff
wtf
starboy is god
Mo Hax Yes, in Wetlands Decks. :3
The whole structure deck is good. he had to pick the worst card in it.
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Any of the vanilla monster like starboys who boost its attribute attack by 500, I used to love them all, I was always using united we stand on these monsters to make big beaters out of them that will stay long on the field and boosts the other monsters WHILE getting boosted themselves by the other monsters at the same time cause of united we stand
Loving this series. Man, that goblin card sucks balls. You basicaly pay 500 lp for a deja vu, just to see your opponent says that he activates his spell one more time. I guess it's used when people like their opponents voice like "I activate pot of greed!" "Wow! Your voice is amazing saying that! Do it again, I pay 500 points for that!".
Soul Absorbing Bone Tower has a new FTK with Imperial Iron Wall and Vendread Revenants. You can also splash Slifer and Give and Take to force the loop.
Dark Magician archetype gets a new effect monster at level 2 simply called “Dark Magician”. Its effect says,”If this card is on the field for 7 turns, special summon a level 4 or lower ‘Dark Magician’ from your extra deck.” It has 0 attack and 0 defense. Not to mention the confusion that it would have due to the original Dark Magician.
You Know battle mania would work great with canyon because it makes the opponent monsters battle and with the field spell effect double the damage.
The idea of the ancient gear I believe is to special summon it out from your graveyard with the ancient gear castle in that deck (I think that was what it was called.) Use the effect of one in your hand to special summon a second, and then immediately tribute both into an ancient gear golem summon. Just it's not particularly easy to do that.
i bought an ultimate rare goblin out of the frying pan as a meme
best 2 bucks i ever spent
>Malfunction at least your opponent can't activate the trap card
Tell that to the ds games. I lost because the com used the trap immediately after i used malfunction. Negate trap, reset it, com immediately activates the trap again.
Play Goblin out of the frying pan with Anti Spell Fragrance. You can thank me later.
+AnonymMC Or just destroy the cards before they get activated with Cosmic Cyclone or Twin Twisters...
Well, that would be the easy way... I just like trolling way too much.
+AnonymMC Trust me, your opponents won't see it as trolling, lol
That burning abyss card seems lit, cant wait to get a print :O
The Bone Tower did have quite the synergy with this deck, it had a secondary mill strategy. Cards like Goblin Zombie and the Vampires indicate this. It was kind of the gimmick slapped on Zombie type monsters back then, a lot of the time they would either special summon something from grave or mill something from your opponents deck.
Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower + Zombie Land and you can revive almost any monster for any cementary, for the time was so great.
You can activate it easily but it doesn't do anything even if you do. There's no synergy with the rest of the structure deck.
The only use i can see Goblin out if the frying pan to have is against a ritual spell card to get your opponent to tribute monsters twice. And even then, i'm not sure if that would work out rulings wise.
Malfunction is the same thing as Goblin Out of the Frying Pan but for trap cards. It does not Set the card. It returns it to its original position, which is not Setting. Those 2 are only good for 1) Making the opponent pay twice 2) Stop "use..once per turn" Spell/Trap Cards (but of course there is always the next turn) 3) Finding a suitable corner to cry in.
Isn't Fairy of the Spring's restriction due to the fact that, back in the day, it would've been kinda' nuts with Premature Burial?
zombie madness was the first structure deck I ever purchased, and this was back when I was first starting out in yugioh and couldn't grasp the idea that deckbuilding was more complicated than "keeping putting random combos in your deck until you have 40 cards". Witnessing first hand how much better this deck functioned vs all my previous attempts was eye opening.
For the time, most of these decks were pretty cool. Some I remember being better than others. These decks were a very welcome change from the decks we got before them, the character starter decks, and the character evolution decks (though the evolution decks were a little better than the character decks). Still, these decks actually had strategies to them, even though they weren't all good strategies, but it's better than what the original decks had to offer us.
I take it back a little about the first character decks being bad, but starter decks Joey and Pegasus actually gave us monsters with effects. They still didn't give us much for strategy, though more than what starter decks Yugi and Kaiba gave us.
Id rather goblin out of the frying pan a pot of desires than dark bribe one instead, but that card is so controversial already
I think the purpose of Ancient Gear's effect is to already have an Ancient Gear monster on the field and special summon this one, and then tribute both for a high level Ancient Gear monster, like Golem or Hydra. However, its effect is rendered useless by the fact that Geartown and Ancient Gear Catapult can easily special summon your higher level Ancient Gear monsters. Not to mention, many of the fusion support that it received in the past years pretty much rendered the Tribute summon aspect of Ancient Gears obsolete.
Read that card again. It requires ANOTHER COPY OF ITSELF on the field.
@Mat read his post a second time..
Let's make the worst structure deck using these cards
Poor Fairy of the Spring...If only they just made a second copy of...What was a good Equip card in that deck? Axe of Despair? I hope so.
Also notice, Ancient Gear is the worst Ancient Gear card and Harpie Girl is the worst Harpie Girl card.
Dude, you're supposed to use Gravity Bind + Legendary Ocean with Star Boy.
I think the point of ancient gear was tribute fodder for ancient gear golem. Assuming your normal summon from the turn before survived
How is a 200 ATK monster going to survive a turn? lol
dzeeff no the other ancient gear. That way you have 2 tributes instead of one. Still bad though because the field makes it a single tribute anyway but say you got the soldier out. He survives a turn, next turn drop gear tribute both for golem. Ultimately pointless and conditional but it had a point
A lot of people seem to not realize Ancient Gear can only SS if there's another copy of itself on the board, not just any Ancient Gear monster. It only works with the second copy of the card called Ancient Gear, not archetype monsters.
dzeeff I'm just saying it had a point... useless as it was and as terrible as it was to do so
Oh shit, I actually did miss that you have to control another copy of it to special it. I was like "nowadays this ain't that bad, summon Wyvern search this, special it, make Missus Radiant.. sounds okay".
That's actually just audacious. How could it?
Shiiit all the time I missunderstood Foxfire :o
I remember giving Machine Revolt to my friend for his birthday. Fuck, this is nostalgic.
Goblin out of the Frying Pan is usable against quick-plays that require specific timing to be useful...cards like Enemy Controller, Rush Recklessly, and Emergency Provisions come to mind.
Oddly enough, I found White Magician Pikeru to be really useful in a Fire Princess deck I was running in one of the old Yu-Gi-Oh! games for the GBA.
thesacredlobo You're right: that obviously means it's a good card and you should play it all the time.
I'm not trying to imply that this card is so good that you should play it all of the time. I'm just saying that this card isn't trash if your playing it in the right kind of deck. Sadly, the kind of deck that this card needs to be a part of in order to shine is just obsolete.
Ancient gear would be okay if there was a way to cheat the first one out of your deck so you could special summon the second one and tribute summon ancient gear golem, but since you have to draw both ancient gears and then normal summon one of them it is complete trash in the structure deck
Canyon’s effect is pretty helpful if you got the right cards, tho. If you got Battle Mania and your opponent only has monsters with lower attack than your rock monster’s defense, you have a chance to OTK them without lifting a finger
White Magician Pikeru - pretty sure I've used that in one of my older Fire Princess decks, so there's that at least
Harpie Girl - somewhat useful for Harpie's Pet Baby Dragon
Ancient Gear - Might've been useful for easy Rank 2 XYZ Summonings, but I don't know how often those are done anymore since Link Summoning & the new rules regarding it were introduced >_>
You had me thinking of a card with this written effect: Discard your entire hand. Take 7900 damage. You cannot play any more cards this turn. Does absolutely nothing else.
You add it to your deck, you play, it, and your opponent dies laughing. You won the game.
Holy shit! The last yugioh deck i bought was fury from the deep. I wonder when they printed it...
2 years later, Soul Absorbing Bone Tower FTK is a thing
goblin out of the frying pan could stop set spells, like if you were against a machine deck and they set limiter removal for you to attack into. still doesnt make it a useable card but, that is something for it.
Dzeef have you ever heard of the card called inmato that has such a bad effect it might as well be a normal monster. I mean they are 2 card archetype with 1 of them only being ok at best. Obviously they dont even have any individual tops
used to run canyon with ancient stone statue of the aztecs, d2 shield, and cross counter in a budget deck that managed to otk on your opponent's turn
when do you plan to go live for part 2?
+x NL That was last night actually :,( But I still have Part 3 and 4! Probably next week after finals
ill be sure to stop in if i actually get the notification next time
Id love to see a version of this but for worst card in a set
I've actually used Goblin Out of the Frying Pan against decks that rely on Desires. It's pretty nasty against ABC, since they never want to Pot twice for fear of losing 3x one of their pieces.
Fairy of the Spring was obviously intended to go with generic staple Equips such as Premature Burial and Snatch Steal back when they were legal, which I think explains the restriction.
I absolutely love Fury From The Deep. I got it when I was seven and I've used it since. I don't think Star Boy is really the worst. For one, it can still attack with Gravity Binding, even if ALO isn't on. It also really helps out your Mermaid Knight and Burguroth.
But Unshaven Anglar sucks. The only reason you'd ever need it is to summon Daedalus without ALO, which doesn't come up often.
For some reason I pronounce Dzeef as Jeff, so In that case, My name is Dzeef
Šedou Šedou me llamo dzeef
Are you drunk?
U Look more like a leeroy
for fox fire I can see why it can be bad but to chain it with backfire double with dark room of nightmare yeah let say you fet a 1500 dmg bit you counter with 800(backfire +dsrk room)
then it come bsck so you can start your combo with Solar flsre dragon I guess it can be pretty good
A three card, unsearchable combo that does 800 damage.
Seems A+
Ancient Gear, although isn’t a great card, was a good addition to the deck considering it’s two boss monsters both need two tributes to summon.
@dzeeff Its very clear ancient gear is a bad card, but what about ancient gear decks? specifically, the ones centered around fusion summoning giant beat sticks and OTKing your opponent, I doubt in modern yugioh they'd be considered competitive but... what are your thoughts on them? mostly curious because was playing one(for fun) on ygopro and was surprised at how often I actually won, small sample size so suspect it was a fluke but would still like to get the opinion of someone that follows competitive yugioh
big brain play today - goblin out of the frying pan as an answer to pot of extravagance
Star Boy+Wetlands, especially with Inferno Reckless when special summoned (Mother Grizzly or simmilar).
Bone tower with those new synchro zombies I forget the name of is insane
Mayakashi or something like that?
I think I still have the pre censor harpie girl
I think some players didn't understand that "Ancient Gear" can only summon itself, not any Ancient Gear monster.
is it just me or could the effect of star boy have been put on a field spell instead?
Canyon- bad card, amazing artwork
Just a thought, But since metaverse is now a card, is it possible to really cheese out a otk?
Pihutihutihutijay Remember to use D2 Shield! :3
It’s been a while since I played.. can you special summon and then tribute summon? If so, there may be some use for ancient gear in setting a gear, passing, flipping, specialing, then tributing to get a stronger monster out on turn two.
Remember that two players play Yugioh. There's basically zero chance of a 800 DEF monster not being destroyed before your next turn
dzeeff I mean, the risk of uncovering a higher def monster than 800 might actually lead your opponent not to attack on their first turn. Like, if I only managed a 1000-1500 atk summon, I might not try to attack a face-down mon.
@@bob513993 Most of the time they're either going to blow it up with a card effect or just summon Utopia the Killjoy if they really feel its that imporant
For harpy girl, I think it had a lot to do with the anime, since I’m GX harpy girl was one of the characters “crush cards”
Goblin out of the frying pan can also force quick play spells to miss timing
+Flynn MacDonald That's not really what missing the timing means
Educate yourself.
I forget that meta from back then but Goblin Out of the Frying Pan could bounce back quick plays on your turn like Enemy Controller and it negates.
I mean... Goblin out if the Frying Pan does have one other fringe use. If your opponent has a Quick Play spell set on the field and they use it on your turn, you can negate it. Not a fantastic use, but... still a use, I guess.
The silly thing is, that Burning Abyss card would probably not only be usable as a gimmicky tech choice in Burning Abyss, but also Infernities if not for the fact that they have better options.
I have uncensored English prints of Harpie Girl, I wonder how much it's worth
I know Goblin Out of the Frying Pan is bad, but your opponent going -10 and having to decide if they can survive losing another 10 off Desires is the funniest shit.
News flash on acient gear it could be good for link summoning got it special summoning eff off of hand if you control another ancient gear and using it for link summoning and not fusion summon at least.