I saw matumbaman being laned with axe and centaur when he is using brood and handled it pretty well. But armel's brood cannot pull off this mid game snowball. Maybe this just really isnt armel's hero.
As a Tnc fan, watching the 3rd game was disappointing. I think Armel should stick to his comfort heroes instead. A good BM player would've understand that laning against a Centaur won't do well. He could've just Invade the Dire jungle, cut the creep wave and flash farm until he reaches a certain point where BM can kill anyone from VG. Props to TNC and VG tho for giving us an excellent series.
I kinda think Lesh is the hero to ban. It is so versatile, both the cores played it before and I'm sure fade can play it as a position 4. It was the reason why TNC lost game 3, early magical damage and tower damage forces brood to farm in your own jungle. If they took mid fast, Brood can just run havoc in the enemy jungle while your team farms your own side, then just simply win within 30 min
Like i said TNC vs Vici is a Bloodbath both teams wants to play With Pace thats why first two games was decided over an Hour. Props to Vici Gaming :) and also TNC were not done yet :)
Win or Lose TNC keep on doing your best. Never mind the haters. We're still proud of you of making it to Ti because of your hard work and able to represent the country.
Dude. Every single person in SEA hate peenoy. No doubht. But lets be honest, they are the best from all of us(SEA) at this moment. And SEA is the only continent who never win a TI. TNC and Fnatic could bring that trophy i guess, i hope, so again.. In this case lets support them. LETS UNITE FOR THE GLORY OF CANCER SEA
For those who blame the crowd for being biased or even China for being nationalism, why are you guys used to the fans cheering up for their home team and even booing the away team in Olympics or World Cup matches but not accepting a similar situation in dota2? I guess the main difference in dota2 is that most dota2 teams around the world are multinational. For example the current EG team which was registered as a USA team actually has no player from the USA but from 5 different countries, Canada, Denmark, Pakistan, Israel and Sweden. So if a tournament is held in Sweden then although EG is a foreign team to Sweden, many Swedish fans will still cheer up for the team, because of the Swedish member in the team. But that's not the case at all for any of the Chinese teams in which at least 4 out of the 5 players (many are actually 5) are Chinese while for teams from other countries none of them have players from China. This makes the China-registered teams totally the "home team" in China and other teams the "away team" and hence leads to a similar situation to a World cup match. Another reason is that there are far more Chinese people (therefore far more Chinese fans) in the USA/Canada or travelling to USA/Canada for TI than people from other countries living in China or travelling to China for TI. This makes the crowd more diversified in the USA/Canada. So if you wanna make the crowd more diversified and change the situation, form a big fan team, buy tickets and go to the stadium, just like many football fans would do in World Cup.
John Michael Ationg ikr. Getting to the upper bracket was already such a huge improvement considering how stacked that group was. Taking a game against the cn juggernaut was also nice
John Michael Ationg I liked the adjustment from VG in this series, picking the lifestealer game 2 to deal with all the magic dmg and the high hp strength heroes which have them the edge in lategame. Also tnc doesn’t really draft a lot of save supports but play really aggressive style with tiny aa etc so game 3 they pick a warlock who is super strong at counter initiate. They also pick stronger late game in games 2 and 3 which is funny because tnc are so aggressive but they really struggle to end the game
@@buenvidanadz1969 they also made it to upper bracket in TI7 when 1437 was still their captain but they were eliminated immediately after their game with LFY at the upper bracket then OG in the lower bracket. Maybe I can say that they've improved a lot when they passed that 8-11th place at TI.
@@mujahidsaari they get the top 12 they talk like they team is best! this is why I don't want TNC to win anything. there fans not respect other teams. their fan is so toxic just like in the pub.
the thing that bothers me the most is that fucking medusa mana steal. they could barely pull off any skills after one mystic snake. and the centaur dominated them so much
What a intense series! both team play well but i still dont get that brood pick, i dont really care about the crowd its pretty understandable to cheering for home team but is it really necessary to tip kuku at the end of game and then boo-ing them?
you cant just go there and drop the echo you need to consider that vg has sd you need to either kill him 1st or include him whenever you drop the echo slam and also vg has rubick they can counter them with their own spell...its really hard to play ES on that game pub game is totally different in pro scenes
napaka bias talaga ng crowd pero tingin this is not the A game of tnc kasi kapag nanalo sila sa vg makakalaban nila ang lgd kaya tingin ko nag test draft sila just incase theres a rematch with the dream team ngayong ti9
What can you do tnc may be doing well and winning underdig fights so some ppl hoping they would win but vg is just too strong and much better team wp for making it a good series tnc hope you survive low bracket
I dont get it why so many ppl complain about the crowd being biased. It's their home field with their home team playing. What do you expect? Them cheering for the toxic SEA team? Grow the fk up alr
GGWP for both teams, what a game TNCCCCC... kudos to this guys, play really well, rooting for you guys i think TNC SEA no 1 now, since Fnatic play not really well this past 2 months
Have you not watched and got used to NBA or world cup where the crowd cheering up for the home team and even booing the away team? At least in dota2, the crowd don't boo the foreign teams at all. If you don't like it buy a ticket, go to the stadium and cheer up for the team you like.
@@ammarafi8545 The competition is held in China. The audience, Chinese. One of the currently competing team is Chinese. Did you actually think the crowd would cheer for the "enemy"?
I'm Chinese. Sorry for the biased crowd who only cheer for Chinese team. It's good for them to support our own team, but they should also learn to applaud for great performance given by foreign team. Personally, I like Secret, EG, Liquid, and TNC And I also admire the player Ana who is ,I think, the greatest carry in the world currently.
What? I think that was a great pickup for tnc. The brood pick was practically a free win for tnc. The one to blame here is how armel played the lane. He only farmed his own camps and he gave so many spiders to the cent. Wjat shouldve been done there was he should have cut every creep wave by camping behind the tier 1 tower then went to the dire offlane jungle camp. Sure cent could take the tower but so can the brood plus he would have been waay above the networth at that point
Armel's micro on the hero was bad and he was missing lots of ranged creeps because of it. He could have sent his spider army to the medium camp near the lane while hitting the ranged creep once with an auto-attack and then nuke it with spawn so he could at least get xp from the lane while farming neuts at the same time. Honestly he didn't seem comfy with the hero at all.
That's why Seattle was great. Every region's fanbase is pretty much there so if there's a good play a section will cheer. This one is just full China, it's ngh.
@@iamrandom4826 I don't get it. What do you mean by biased? This TI is hosted in Shanghai, home for Chinese people. Everyone can cheer for their favourite team. What's make you think that Chinese teams got louder cheer in their home is weird or something abnormal? Are you saying that non-chinese team get disrespected just because they got lesser cheer than the Chinese team? Buy yourself a ticket if you feel that your non-chinese teams need louder cheer.
VG-TNC matchup has been fun all season long..
Props to Vici in G3 for adapting to the situation with that Mid Centaur.
@@mawrk7193 no need to add salt boi
@@mawrk7193 I've seen Dark Seer mid in my pubs so I'm better than you.
@@mawrk7193 , well... did someone ask if you've seen that swap lanes a lot ?
@@mawrk7193 No one asked you about how you've seen these lane swap either. Also you should show some respect to me cause I'm better.
@@mawrk7193 herald detected!
Toby said something along the lines of "plant your flags vg gaming, tnc's home is your base now" monkaS its not just on dota
Laughing my ass off
Another low mmr idiot lols
monkaS dude
The International at its finest.
Beautiful Dota. Action Packed.
Can't wait for other great thrilling matches.
Crowd cheering fake tho
Except the crowd.. They goes riki.. Pepega crowd
Best series since the group stages.
Haha lose dog pignoy
its main stage
@@ariucle5412 Read my comment again.
pignoys! 🐷
I saw matumbaman being laned with axe and centaur when he is using brood and handled it pretty well. But armel's brood cannot pull off this mid game snowball. Maybe this just really isnt armel's hero.
matu brood is on another level , its his best hero
@@patricksantino4131 I'd say he's a pretty good micro heroes player, his brood, lycan and lone druid are monsters to play againts
When tnc won game 1
pinoys were spamming tnc stands for ti 9 champions
After the series
i guess tnc means tryna not choke
Hahahaha nice one sir
Lol..
Lol true
Trashin' is a pignoy attribute. they think one big play is enough. bone headed race.
lmao someones affected on tnc after winning game 1 🤣
Damn! i miss TobiWan T_T his casting ability is Godlike .. pls comeback Tobi we still need a caster like you
he will never come back. no room for predators
@@patrickalunday9161 lol you're trash, where's your evidence that he's a predator? none? oh yeah just blindly believe the lies of women
@@overbored617 Women is a conspiracy made by Illuminati
As a Tnc fan, watching the 3rd game was disappointing. I think Armel should stick to his comfort heroes instead. A good BM player would've understand that laning against a Centaur won't do well. He could've just Invade the Dire jungle, cut the creep wave and flash farm until he reaches a certain point where BM can kill anyone from VG. Props to TNC and VG tho for giving us an excellent series.
I'm a VG fan, but TNC did great this entire series. TNC's comeback game 1 was incredible and VG got really lucky to turn game 2 around.
sad life PIGNOYSS
yeah.. throw pick.. di ko rin na intindihan..china kasi host kaya pinatalo,!
@@francloucuizon6925 anong kinalaman sa host hahah bobo lang tlga TNC
Damn kudos to the early upload man!! Working too hard ;)
Heen the coach of Liquid before is now the coach for TNC :) you have a good chance guys great synergy everyone
Ban shadow demon, when playing against VG, theyre so good at playing sd damn. GGWP
Paul Dominique Dohig Aside from that, SD’s soul catcher needs a nerf. In the whole tournament, it has been too impactful.
Rap Rap i know right, its so OP opponent cant see it coming, from 100% health to 60% health or even less.
I kinda think Lesh is the hero to ban. It is so versatile, both the cores played it before and I'm sure fade can play it as a position 4. It was the reason why TNC lost game 3, early magical damage and tower damage forces brood to farm in your own jungle. If they took mid fast, Brood can just run havoc in the enemy jungle while your team farms your own side, then just simply win within 30 min
Fade is also good on Rubick
That soul catcher is such an annoyance
Shadow demon is seriously annoying to TNC 😐
And they don't even respect ban
"Gabbi is just going full Artour" lmao
That last pick broodmother is really bad choice
If vg didn't adjust, it would have fucked them up
JUG PLAYED SO FUCKING BAD THAT GAME ROFL
@@Tiny_Meo China sucks
they thought medusa's gonna force mid vs brood, yea c'mon pignoys you really think vg's that stupid? ahahaha
Kien Nguyen fuck u stupid vietcong shit
The first game, when VG is being butchered then lost and the crowd went silent is just so satisfying lol
Like i said TNC vs Vici is a Bloodbath both teams wants to play With Pace thats why first two games was decided over an Hour. Props to Vici Gaming :) and also TNC were not done yet :)
Game 3 "The Dead Yang" Strategy
Win or Lose TNC keep on doing your best. Never mind the haters. We're still proud of you of making it to Ti because of your hard work and able to represent the country.
@@Dnyl_Ndm say what you want about our country but I know they did their best.
Sick team fights
Epic casters
Wild crowd
Massive prize pool
The kind of Dota we deserve ❤
this will easily go down as one of TI's legendary reels! great dotes from both teams.
In this case. I really wanted our fellow cancer sea to win
@@kevinc2080 i know. Pignoise. But i rather support them as sea representative than fnatic
@@yahtadi5152 what's wrong with fnatic at the moment?
in this case, i prefer vg win , because i hate pinoy
Dude. Every single person in SEA hate peenoy. No doubht. But lets be honest, they are the best from all of us(SEA) at this moment. And SEA is the only continent who never win a TI. TNC and Fnatic could bring that trophy i guess, i hope, so again.. In this case lets support them.
LETS UNITE FOR THE GLORY OF CANCER SEA
Me too I just hate the chinese crowd.
This year's chat wheel will be full of Chinese fan's noises.
8.23 now. TNC already went home. Noises from Chinese fan:). Love you.
The moment of silence when TNC loses. Pinoy boy are missing from the chat.
Lmao,😂😂😂😂
a moment of silence to your grammar
@@crustyholmes3004 yours isn't any better.
@@pimpXBT yeah you tooo perfectionist
You mean when TNC win. The crowd is obviously cheering for Vici
If this was not in China, what could have been for TNC :(
For those who blame the crowd for being biased or even China for being nationalism, why are you guys used to the fans cheering up for their home team and even booing the away team in Olympics or World Cup matches but not accepting a similar situation in dota2? I guess the main difference in dota2 is that most dota2 teams around the world are multinational. For example the current EG team which was registered as a USA team actually has no player from the USA but from 5 different countries, Canada, Denmark, Pakistan, Israel and Sweden. So if a tournament is held in Sweden then although EG is a foreign team to Sweden, many Swedish fans will still cheer up for the team, because of the Swedish member in the team. But that's not the case at all for any of the Chinese teams in which at least 4 out of the 5 players (many are actually 5) are Chinese while for teams from other countries none of them have players from China. This makes the China-registered teams totally the "home team" in China and other teams the "away team" and hence leads to a similar situation to a World cup match. Another reason is that there are far more Chinese people (therefore far more Chinese fans) in the USA/Canada or travelling to USA/Canada for TI than people from other countries living in China or travelling to China for TI. This makes the crowd more diversified in the USA/Canada. So if you wanna make the crowd more diversified and change the situation, form a big fan team, buy tickets and go to the stadium, just like many football fans would do in World Cup.
Guan Wang Well said
agree bro.... some people just dont get the initiative
jose miranda wow thats racist bro. I bet u think that u r the man for spreading racism and shit. Pro tip : u just look like an asshat :)
jose miranda loser
corona virus came from Chy-na all hail Trump
Damn, I thought there was an ice-cream truck outside my house for a whole 2 minutes.
Why tnc always buyback delay? Not enough gold or cool down? TNC should learn how to faster buyback like og did
I can see positive growth of tnc
John Michael Ationg ikr. Getting to the upper bracket was already such a huge improvement considering how stacked that group was. Taking a game against the cn juggernaut was also nice
thats Heen for you
Idoit?!
John Michael Ationg I liked the adjustment from VG in this series, picking the lifestealer game 2 to deal with all the magic dmg and the high hp strength heroes which have them the edge in lategame. Also tnc doesn’t really draft a lot of save supports but play really aggressive style with tiny aa etc so game 3 they pick a warlock who is super strong at counter initiate. They also pick stronger late game in games 2 and 3 which is funny because tnc are so aggressive but they really struggle to end the game
@@buenvidanadz1969 they also made it to upper bracket in TI7 when 1437 was still their captain but they were eliminated immediately after their game with LFY at the upper bracket then OG in the lower bracket. Maybe I can say that they've improved a lot when they passed that 8-11th place at TI.
Miss this TNC era🥹
Proud to see that TNC improved well and play as a high tier team now, unlike the past TNC, so underdog and always losing some games
pignoy is trash btw..
@@mujahidsaari they get the top 12 they talk like they team is best! this is why I don't want TNC to win anything. there fans not respect other teams. their fan is so toxic just like in the pub.
@@hongsethya4932 what's the harm on believing TNC is the best?
@@mujahidsaari you are trash btw
We are only toxic in games but we are good in personal, unlike those fake foreign people who don't show their true colors, bad and racist people
Such a good series and then they had to ruin it with a brood pick
the thing that bothers me the most is that fucking medusa mana steal. they could barely pull off any skills after one mystic snake. and the centaur dominated them so much
Kyrio Kyrio I think they were going for the “we can lose the game but we’re gonna make their Medusa’s life hell” strat.
That ding ding ding from Yang was so satisfying!!!
That ding ding ding from kuku was awsome.
At some points TNC were overextending and got punished for it
Great start for the TI9 playoff. No more strats saving.
YANG!!! GIVE THIS MAN A CREDIT DUDE!!!
Tnc looking strong now... could be top 6
GYAHAHA TOP 6 MY ASS
TNC has to keep trying, they’ll get that trophy soon enough. And it will be quite the story.
What a intense series! both team play well but i still dont get that brood pick, i dont really care about the crowd its pretty understandable to cheering for home team but is it really necessary to tip kuku at the end of game and then boo-ing them?
@Jietong Guo and they still cant get over it. Kuku and company were already punished for it.
@Jietong Guo well i knew about that but i still dont get it, i mean they want get to get respected right? And yet they didnt respect other people lol.
I feel really bad about kuku and tnc
28:10 FADE IS THE ONLY ONE IS HAPPY FOR WIN AND NOBODY GIVE HIM A BROFIST
what will happen to tnc ? are they going to lower bracket ?
8:54 Nice script ya gat there dude
That earthshaker man feels bad i was screaming for him to go in many times great opportunities for echo slam wasted
you cant just go there and drop the echo you need to consider that vg has sd you need to either kill him 1st or include him whenever you drop the echo slam and also vg has rubick they can counter them with their own spell...its really hard to play ES on that game pub game is totally different in pro scenes
Brood last pick vs medusa and lesh? What the hell?
What an insanely evenly matched series
Is this fifa online?
napaka bias talaga ng crowd pero tingin this is not the A game of tnc kasi kapag nanalo sila sa vg makakalaban nila ang lgd kaya tingin ko nag test draft sila just incase theres a rematch with the dream team ngayong ti9
MrVapeLog TV chinese vs chinese patayan ng lahi hahaha
this is a hard loss for tnc.. i hope they recover from this and move forward stronger
6:23 Always go Full Autour
SlyPhoenix720 'or just go full artour'
Is TNC out? pls.. enlighten me thank you
lower bracket
Why is rotk at the video thumbnail. Is he the coach of VG?
Yes
Gratz VG, Game aint over yet TNC! Sea pride! Stop the hate just support. Go TNC! 😎💪💪👍 #LabanTNC!
What can you do tnc may be doing well and winning underdig fights so some ppl hoping they would win but vg is just too strong and much better team wp for making it a good series tnc hope you survive low bracket
19:15 BUT HE DOESNT HAVE A EUL SCEPTER OR A FORCESTAFF WTFF
i think Tim's missed click, he supposed to click euls on shadow, instead of force staff
gg wp for both teams hahaha Lets go TNC no matter what
LUL see your favorite team in the airport
Moustache Dude how about your vici gaming lmaofao
20:53 timmmmmmsssssss
I dont get it why so many ppl complain about the crowd being biased. It's their home field with their home team playing. What do you expect? Them cheering for the toxic SEA team? Grow the fk up alr
Have you seen the Manila Major or the Manila Masters? Yeah take notes on those events.
@@literallynobody6057 there are so many Chinese ppl in sea, there are no sea people in China so.
They don't give credit where credit is due
Yo the broadcaster said
"Vici gaming cannot decide who to kill😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Peak SEA Doto, can't believe that they can go toe-to-toe with CN teams
Good casters really adding hype to the game.
Apparitions SS always off the mark!
Salute to tnc team, napakagaling, keep up the good work
This game looks like finals. Worth to watch
Lmao
T-I
N-inety nine
C-hampions
5 man sonic waveeee
Tnc showed that they're capable of winning ti with that win in game 1 and close match in game 2
paparazi : any idea guys...
then pick kunka + tide..
coming soon new lore kunka tidehunter... 😂😂
HOT LILIAM
What I see:
Ori: I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF LOSING TO FUCKING LS PICK HIM
Paparazzi: ok
Elimination?
GGWP for both teams, what a game
TNCCCCC... kudos to this guys, play really well, rooting for you guys
i think TNC SEA no 1 now, since Fnatic play not really well this past 2 months
Midone paling aku suka gameplay dia...
@The Kamikaze One no. Thats just playing for a foreign team. I wanted to see a full SEA slotted team.
I mean why do we have to go to war if we have dota
Why pick medusa? When they already pick centa, medu, leshrac
Your comment makes no sense. 😟
game 1 and 2 was a close game but game 3 was just onesided anyways goodgame tnc♥️
This game made me forget Io carry and rtz 1v5 at group stages....
Maaaan the crowds are too biased man
Whenever TNC team wiped VG crowd is so quiet
But when VG just killed someone
The crowd goes wild
with a name like that, you can't complain anything
Have you not watched and got used to NBA or world cup where the crowd cheering up for the home team and even booing the away team? At least in dota2, the crowd don't boo the foreign teams at all. If you don't like it buy a ticket, go to the stadium and cheer up for the team you like.
No one:
Absolutely no one:
China crowd: WOAHHHHHHHH
Bias crowd. Only cheer up for VG
@@ammarafi8545 remember KUKU drama
well we dont like pinoys
No one like peeNOISE
@@ammarafi8545 The competition is held in China. The audience, Chinese. One of the currently competing team is Chinese. Did you actually think the crowd would cheer for the "enemy"?
1:07 you got something inside of you. took me years to realize
Look at those chinese crowd going all silent when VG loses. Jesus christ that's some enthusiastic fans right there
@Simon Duan for what reason should i complain to valve?
Are you an idiot?
This was the time Apparation not being nerf .. imagine 17 secs. Your health wont regen in a team fight haha
Good luck next TI TNC.
360p ö
I just felt they're going to the airport now , I dont see them winning again vs Liquid.
I'm Chinese. Sorry for the biased crowd who only cheer for Chinese team. It's good for them to support our own team, but they should also learn to applaud for great performance given by foreign team.
Personally, I like Secret, EG, Liquid, and TNC
And I also admire the player Ana who is ,I think, the greatest carry in the world currently.
Why Brood against a Lesh?
360p :(
FASTFROMUA indeed
What an epic game... I am wondering how PSG.LGD Vs VG will be!!!
The crowd is silent everytime TNC gets the advantage Lmao
of course they will go silent. This was played in China you donut
@@NifuzzyWuzzy okay thanks lol
TNC got greedy in game 3 with that brood mother draft . It cost them the upper bracket
What? I think that was a great pickup for tnc. The brood pick was practically a free win for tnc. The one to blame here is how armel played the lane. He only farmed his own camps and he gave so many spiders to the cent. Wjat shouldve been done there was he should have cut every creep wave by camping behind the tier 1 tower then went to the dire offlane jungle camp. Sure cent could take the tower but so can the brood plus he would have been waay above the networth at that point
Armel's micro on the hero was bad and he was missing lots of ranged creeps because of it. He could have sent his spider army to the medium camp near the lane while hitting the ranged creep once with an auto-attack and then nuke it with spawn so he could at least get xp from the lane while farming neuts at the same time. Honestly he didn't seem comfy with the hero at all.
Grab n' Smash Kuku should’ve played that brood mid.
720p please
I don’t know, somehow, that crowd cheering is kinda satisfying. Sadly, it always gets silent after TNC eliminates VG xP
That tipping in last game tho. Nice touch from VG.
Heen really doing his job
They played well, they just lost the draft. Tnc will definitely ban that SD next time they get a rematch.
？？？？？？？go home
This is why dota 2 is amazing
why they use psg.lgd spray?
kelan match ng OG?
VG vs LGD so does this mean the crowd are always shouting the whole series? Hmm 🤔🤯
Good. Exhaust them. They are sooo biased it's not funny.
@@iamrandom4826 who do you think cheered for chinese teams in previous TIs? Chinese tourists, not western fans.
That's why Seattle was great. Every region's fanbase is pretty much there so if there's a good play a section will cheer. This one is just full China, it's ngh.
@@iamrandom4826 I don't get it. What do you mean by biased? This TI is hosted in Shanghai, home for Chinese people. Everyone can cheer for their favourite team. What's make you think that Chinese teams got louder cheer in their home is weird or something abnormal? Are you saying that non-chinese team get disrespected just because they got lesser cheer than the Chinese team? Buy yourself a ticket if you feel that your non-chinese teams need louder cheer.
@@YKfromB too much pride on filipinos that they even hate chinese loving there own team. These people are stupid im sorry. Dont talk to them
I don't care about China Vs Chinese Province match up anyway
China does not have a drug addiction province stfu
This line up of TNC is so OP
Worst crowd ever, booing tnc for what?
@王宇浩 tutu kajan tutumba kita xD
Why is everyone fighting tho???