Help support the podcast by visiting our sponsors: ghostbed.com/danny - Use code DANNY for 40% off bluechew.com - Try BlueChew FREE when you use promo code KONCRETE at checkout OUTLINE: 0:00 - Luke’s family gold mines 9:57 - Luke's view on the Pyramids of Egypt 13:29 - Controversy over first pyramid build in Egypt 16:33 - Dating of the Sphinx - Dr Robert Schoch 25:43 - Cedars of Lebanon in Bent Pyramid 35:18 - Pyramids in Mexico & South America; Anti-seismic ancient structures 46:46 - Stone scoop marks; evidence of acid used to FUSE stones together 54:13 - Viracochea, The "Fanged Diety" 1:05:11 - Mysteries of the Olmecs - moving 40 ton stones 1:20:03 - Ancient cultures connection to psychedelics, music, & the Spiritual Realm 1:27:33 - 30,000 BC Amazon Caves 1:31:11 - Percy Fawcett's expidetion to find lost city in the Amazon 1:35:35 - Pre-Younger Dryas Structers & Unusual Precision 1:40:45 - Solid Block Myan Stonemanship 1:48:06 - The lost Mayan city of Palenque; Lost Mayan Atlantis 1:55:31 - Deadliest animals in Mesoamerica & Amazon 2:13:30 - Could Ancient Egypt and Mesomericans Communicated? 2:22:46 - Maya Library of Codex Destroyed 2:34:36 - Ancient lost cities & pyramids just discovered using lidar scans of uncharted jungles 2:44:34 - The ancient Maya city of Yaxchilán 3:00:42 - Cartels in Mexico & the Amazon 3:12:09 - What it's like exploring uncharted jungles alone 3:16:23 - 2024 Open Expedition Uncharted Ruins 3:20:58 - Mayan Jaguar Death Whistle
2:17:05 Luke said two different logographs say craving is a Traveler. Most Indians/Mayans traveled. Maybe it makes more sense the person with a Turban and Beard is a Sea Traveler - Seafarers like Phoenicians as Luke said. Not a Foot Traveler.
cedar is not a hardwood but a softwood and the eygtions would have known this. but in the dry climate there it would have been a very long lasting wood.
Danny, thank you so much for extending this opportunity to me. This was my first time ever on a live, in studio podcast. Thank you so much. I hope everyone enjoys!🏛️ *Some show notes*: in the beginning, we discuss the evidence towards the Pyramids being built by the Egyptians vs a lost civilization: but firstly I want to say - when I said "Egyptians didn't know North & South", you have to remember that the Nile was populated for thousands of years before Dynastic Egypt. It was during this time that the areas of Upper & Lower Egypt were named. At this point in time, there was no knowledge of North & South, Furthermore I, personally, believe the Egyptians DID build the pyramids & there is a lot of small evidence in support of that-that didn’t come to mind here as I was a bit nervous at the beginning (such as the graffiti of “Khufu’s gang” in the relieving chambers of the Great Pyramid, the cartouche of Snefru inside the Bent Pyramid & the decorated interior of Menkaure’s Pyramid). However, the main hang up for me are the Cedar logs imported from Lebanon (carbon dated to about 4,500ya) found imbedded into the Bent Pyramid’s ceilings to bolster the roof & keep the chambers from collapsing-if an unstable pyramid had been built 10,500+ years ago, I’m not sure that it would have lasted long enough for the dynastic Egyptians to arrive & install Cedar beams in the roof. After this episode, I needed to go back & dive into this subject again. I go into much more detail in this video I just put out: ruclips.net/video/-qgOb8fAp9Y/видео.htmlsi=aB9ZVKxmWTggkzTh Now, just because we ‘may’ know who built the pyramids-does not answer how they were built, like a lot of Egyptologist & “mainstream” archaeologists may make it seem. All of the strange anomalies & mysteries of Egyptian architecture that Ben & Randall pointed out on previous episodes are still true. However, again, my specialty is the Ancient Civilizations of the Americas, which we dive into right after that. I hope we touched on a lot of topics that some of you may not have been familiar with! Some of the largest, megalithic stonework ever constructed is actually in ancient Peru-NOT Egypt! And if we follow the religious & architectural influences of these cultures, it points towards the origins of megalithic architecture emerging from somewhere deep within the Amazon jungle. Here is a link to the video that I just published out today on this topic: ruclips.net/video/PGPObVlDZus/видео.htmlsi=NjD00IFUGw7e4kP9 And finally, “Mayan Atlantis”: Classical archaeology has determined that civilization is almost always built out of “necessity”. Meaning that, only when people are forced to live in arid conditions (like along the Nile River of Egypt, the Middle East, or Indus Valley) does civilization emerge. Because of this, they say there is no reason for Atlantis to have existed if it were built during the time of the Ice Age/Younger Dryas, in a tropical, mild climate. However; the Maya completely break that mold, as a civilization that emerged from a tropical jungle with ALL of the natural resources they could ever need. There was no “necessity” for them to built a megalithic, scientifically oriented, star mapping civilization-but they did it. I’m so honored to be a guest on Danny’s show. I hope to come at some point soon! Thank you all so, so much.
Love this dude’s mindset. Backs up his claims with evidence, doesn’t pretend to know everything and is open to being proved wrong. That’s what we need, great interview!
I used to always follow breaking news and political stuff. But shits so crazy/fake/gay that this kind of content has over taken my brain power. I love it
@@Pro-zh9up This type of content and knowledge is insanely popular right now. Would you rather him be just another boring mainstream guy? Or to add to the overall cause? This dude is like like the 4th generation of guys in his family doing stuff like this. Not like you're doing anything to help find answers. Go back to paying Xbox if your this upset
Man it’s refreshing for somebody to come along and not be totally dismissive of one idea or the other. Not sure if I’ve heard anybody so open to multiple ideas. Most of these dudes that come along are so stuck on their beliefs and unwilling to admit that they may be wrong. Hes not married to his ideas, and he’s open to all evidence. So rare
This was by far one of my favorite guest to ever speak on these topics. Most are married to their own ideas and everyone is wrong and they are right. But not this guy. He was open minded, respectful, and non judgmental on other archeologists. Give this man his own show because I’m hooked. Watched this from start to finished. Loved the part about the bees and the crocodiles 🐊
The Jaguar whistle is from my shop, we are third generation clay craftsman located in Joshua Tx, our shop is based on Mesoamerican Mythology, the carvings around it are Quetzalcoatl, or Kukulkán, the feathered serpent! I would love to send you a free jaguar!!!
I love this podcast so much. I think Danny is a fantastic interviewer. Keeps the Congo going on cool directions but lets the guest speak the most. Best show out right now.
I really enjoy long format podcasts and this is quickly becoming one of my favorites. New sub. Keep it up! Luke is an awesome new voice in this space. I'll be watching everything he does.
Thank you bro! I gotta work on making my stories more concise as time goes on. Running through the gauntlet has taught me so much in the last couple weeks
I really like Luke, you can tell he has so much knowledge to offer. He’s a bit scattered in his direction right now but that’ll improve with experience. I’m 27 and just hearing his story in the beginning makes me want to pursue a path I missed out on in anthropology long ago when I didn’t know what I wanted to do in school. I always wondered why there’s not more exposure to the mysteries of the ancient sites in the americas and boom, this guy pops up. Looking forward to more from you @lukecaverns
Dude if your only 27…please believe me…you didn’t miss out on anything! Do it all now! Go back to school or whatever you need to do to pursue your dreams!
to the 20+ years old here saying they've missed out on things. JUST DO IT. do it now, go for it, study it on the side if you must. This is your future talking to you, I'm 50 and regretting not pursuing archaeology. You could argue is never late and I could definitely invest in it just for kicks but the years I would have ahead of me to accumulate experience...you get what I'm saying. I repeat go. for. it.
College and universities have become so institutionalized, so i appreciate independent antheopologists, scientists, researchers, engineers etc who are open minded yet skeptical enough to record knowledge and test it instead of just blindly going with whats been established
Where do you think the archeologists, scientists, engineers, etc got their education?? They got it at universities. Yes, they teach you what has been established to be history, but they very much encourage fresh thoughts. When you get your Master's degree, generally, you need an original project or thesis, in which your own thoughts are very much welcomed!!
Luke, you're wrong about erosion of the Pyramids. The base of the Pyramid which is partially constructed of the bedrock limestone shows a lot of erosion -- more than the main structural blocks of the Pyramid. This would make sense because the pyramids were covered with casing stones for most of their existence -- and those casing stones were repaired as they deteriorated. But the limestone near the base of the Pyramid show's a lot of erosion. The walls of the Sphynx pit were never protected by casing stones -- they could erode freely. It stands to reason that Egyptians wouldn't have allowed working monuments and temples to erode so badly while they were inhabited. In fact, the Dynastic Egyptians worked to repair the Sphynx -- which implies that it went a very long time without any maintenance at all. The same with the Sphynx temple. It was abandoned for a very long time -- long enough to naturally erode with water. When the pyramids were made, they were clad in casing stones. The inner blocks couldn't erode. The casing stones would have to completely erode before the underlying stones could receive any erosion. If new casing stones were applied, this non-erosion of the inner blocks would be indefinite. You'd never know how old the Pyramids actually were if you based it upon erosion patterns. Rainfall in Egypt has been virtually nil for thousands of years as well. Even if the initial casing stones were mostly gone by 2000BC, there wouldn't have been much erosion to speak of since that period... but we know casing stones existed because we know they were quarried away within that time frame from 2000BC on. Cedar dating would be good for dating but only if it was guaranteed that the cedar was original -- and not replaced over time.
"It stands to reason that Egyptians wouldn't have allowed working monuments and temples to erode so badly while they were inhabited." in theory, I get what you're saying, but that isn't correct. Temples, tombs & Necropoli were left abandoned many times over in Egypt. You have to consider the terminal periods when Egypt fell under foreign rule or instability. The Sphinx, I can agree, seems to be older than many other sites in Egypt - even the pyramids. How I reconcile why that is, I don't know. Also, the casing stones are still on Khafre's pyramid. If they are 12,000+ years old, you would see limestone erosion more similar to the Sphinx. There's also no evidence to suggest that the casing stones were continuously replaced over time. Even if they were built in 10,500 BC, that civilization would have been wiped out at the end of the Younger Dryas, leaving the Pyramids to sit & erode in regular rainfall for another 4,000-5,000 years. Nobody would have been there to maintain them. The Cedar logs were installed in the Bent pyramid to bolster the roof - likely because it is unstable. If it is unstable, it wouldn't have lasted 12,000+ years. There's also not really an argument that they could have been replaced over the course of thousands of years because we have archaeological evidence of habitation along the nile as far back as 70,000 BC. Only around 3,500 Bc do we start to see the construction of homes. There is no evidence of residents in Egypt around 12,000 that would have had the ability to sail to Lebanon to acquire lumber strong enough to bolster the Bent Pyramid's ceiling.
@@lukecavernswhy would there be evidence? The Sahara shows visible evidence of a massive flood. We also know that Egyptian culture imitated itself, but as time went on the imitations were less and less impressive. There's also an interesting theory that the the Giza pyramids were a type of garden technology. There is a square well shaft adjunct to the right side of the sphinx, the theory is this connected to the well underground the pyramid and when the Nile flooded it contributed the water to create a pump and when the Nile receded the water was continuously circulating, hence the water erosion of the Sphinx, which could be used as an argument that the sphinx is not as old as people think. I really don't know. Regardless whoever built the pyramids seems to have emerged suddenly without precedence and then continuously degraded in technical ability. All the worlds mythologies encode the science of the catastrophe veiled in it's symbology.
@@lukecaverns Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't there writings about repairs to the casing stones? I thought I heard that somewhere. If you're making repairs, then there's no way of saying which cashing stones were original -- if any. Also, first course or 2 at the base of one of the pyramids is partially carved out of the bedrock limestone on the Giza plateau. The erosion at that base looks very old. The stone has had all it's corners eroded off. Way more erosion than the structural blocks of the remaining courses of the pyramid. Wasn't the ocean a couple hundred meters lower 12,000 years ago? Most civilizations would've been on the coastal areas. Most of the evidence of habitation 12K years ago would be under the ocean. In fact, the water table is so high now, that many underground structures are no longer accessible around Egypt. Structures which would've preserved evidence. Once you include inevitable tsunamis and ocean rise events from such a large amount of tonnage entering the ocean, I would think the only things that survived after 12K years ago was wiped away -- unless it was large and made of stone. Also, why have we not discovered the antecedent works which preceded all the greatest works -- which seem to have been created at the earliest. The oldest are the best built. But you don't become the best built out of the blue. I suspect there's a wealth of things yet to be discover off the coast of Egypt or other nearby areas. It strains credulity to believe that the know-how to build the pyramids and move large stones seems to have just appeared about 4000 years ago -- and then was unlearned in an instant. There should be hundreds of smaller scale experiments which show an evolution of engineering which slowly culminates -- but we don't see that. The only explanation which seems to match that pattern is that the proof of that tech experimentation is below the waterline. But I'm no expert on Egypt. Perhaps there are dozens of small pyramids dotting the region which show the development experience required to build the larger ones. To produce it's greatest works, a civilization should be showing that development over time -- but the Giza pyramids just appear without any antecedents I know of. There should be smaller pyramids all over Egypt showing these developing techniques, but AFAIK, there aren't. Then after those pyramids were built, the engineering knowledge just seems to have vanished... even though that tech was able to develop over thousands of years amid regular wars prior to the building of the pyramids. I'm betting that those antecedents are below the ocean. If they are, then it will prove that Pyramid tech was developed prior to the Younger Dryas. The Y-D cataclysm would've only left the works on highest ground. Such a cataclysm would also explain how thousands of years of development was suddenly cut short... the catastrophes caused by meltwater would be continuous -- earthquakes, tsunamis, etc... even if the water rise was slow, the impact of its tonnage would cause massive tectonic and climate upset. But it's all just speculation. Even so, when there's a seeming glitch in history, it implies gen-o-side or cataclysms which could do the same. As far as we know, there was no such total obliteration of the population during the last 4000 years. Only a practical gen-o-side could remove all the engineers and craftsmen as well as the journeymen and apprentices... along with their tools, their dwellings, their workshops, and their writings. When was Egypt last lush? I'd wager that was when the pyramids were built... just before the climate became too dry to support the amount of calories required to build the pyramids.
The argument I've seen against rain weathering of the Sphinx says that the erosion was actually caused by flooding. I hate to say it but if only the bottoms of the pyramids are eroded it's possible that flooding was the cause of that. I tend to believe this sphinx is very old but I really don't know how legitimate the flooding argument is
@@lukecavernsone quick thing, I dont believe that Graham or Randall were saying that the pyramids weren't built by the Egyptians. If im not mistaken their thoughts are that the layout or "foundations" was there previously and then built upon, also that the sphinx was much older and was once a lion, hence the erosion of the base of the pyramids and the sphinx enclosure. Im pretty sure thats what their argument is, not that the Egyptians didn't build them at all. Ben's opinions are somewhat different from graham's, saying the objects inside some are obviously different construction from others and focusing more on stoneworking techniques, he seems to attribute much less to the Egyptians than Graham and Randall.
If his maternal grandfather was a minister and was into investigating “Bible stories” in reality he would’ve been a “religious theologian” not a “historian.”
I was interested, but stopped when he clearly shows he has no real idea what he is talking about. He just regurgitates the ideas of Graham Hancock and his 'clan' of people (I am quite familiar with them and know their viewpoints, which are rather interesting). I stopped when he said 'these western selfish people that tore down Rome or something'.... that's actually quite a recent liberal western narrative of self hate; largely by US mainstream media and UK bullshittery like the BBC. Humans are gonna human, no matter if it's us, or those other guys half way around the world. If he read some decent history he knew that when Pizarro came back to the Inca's with his army, Pizarro could easily crush them coz turns out the Inca's just came out of a bloody civil war that left 100.000 death on either side of the brotherly succession war, entire villages were wiped of the face of the earth by them. Similar stories you hear from Hernan Cortez that actually defeated the Aztecs with the help of all the other tribes that were suppressed by the Aztecs quite similar to a Lawrence of Arabia story how the Arabs revolted against their suppression by the Ottomans... so let's just cut the crap that these were benevolent Samaritan natives and that 'the evil white westerners' came to destroy them... no, this is just human nature, people gonna people wherever we go coz our basic human instincts and emotions are exactly the same, that's just the nature of our animal as being a homo sapiens.
Why wont comments on where to find pics of the cedars of lebenon in bent pyramid stay this will be my third tome mentioning hope it stays this time on your comment or reply@@dannyjones
Holy crap clicked just bc I'm a Mexican who's super curious out ancient America, thought I'd click off in 5 mins im 3 hours in and can't wait to watch his whole channel. Tremendous and good job on the host for letting him go off without interrupting
Check out the book "1491: The Americas Before Columbus" easy to read and there is tons of evidence of the ancient cities of the Americas. That book really opened up to me just how advanced the South American civilizations were
Amazing podcast once again, would love to see Luke on more podcasts or he gets the chance to do a documentary or tv series exploring and looking for these sites. Much love from Australia 🇦🇺
Man, I could listen to Luke all day. His passion is absolutely infectious. You can tell how excited it makes him, because he's just jumping from one rabbit hole to the next, sometimes without even finishing his initial thought haha. Three hours flew by, and I could've just as easily sat through another three!
Oh my goodness. When you first started playing the native Papua New Guinea man singing I had a shiver go through my whole body. Much as I love music I’ve never had that happen before. Absolutely fascinating podcast. I’ve learnt so much in this one. Thanks Danny for being the great interviewer you are and inviting people like Luke and Ben onto your show.
Really enjoying all these podcasts with ufos and stuff, you present yourself very well and actually listen but speak up when needed which is great to watch. Keep up the hard work.
I am so incredibly thankful that Atlantis is being presented as an actual civilization and not myth. The current paradigm in regards to ancient history and human origins makes no sense, and it’s refreshing to see experts challenging that narrative.
Once I was tripping in a temperate rainforest in Australia, during the depths of a clear night. I became captivated by images and shapes I could see in the night sky, which I can still see in my mind's eye and can now only assume to be Maya glyphs
Me and a buddy in highschool tripped at his house one time and saw the same things. We both felt like we were propelled to what we thought were Aztec pyramids, and we saw feathered snakes and jaguars. The glyphs were amazing. It definitely could have been Mayan and not Aztec as we thought at the time.
Great podcast! This guy is a lot smarter than other dudes I’ve heard talk about Mexico history or central or South America , he is educated well on it and also doesn’t use his speculation as fact , he clearly states it , now this is a man who is well educated on what he is talking about
Wow! I was so intrigued and fascinated that I didn’t even realize it was an almost 4hr podcast. Great interview and hope you have him on again in the future after his next expedition maybe 🤷🏽♂️🤞💪
I recently found your podcast Danny a couple months ago and had to subscribe, grateful I did because you've had some of my favorite human beings on lately and fantastic content deserves appreciation. Really enjoyed Luke's excitement and passion for what he's doing, makes listening to him very easy, he's gained a sub as well!
This guy is so enthusiastic and so young and fresh. Can’t wait for more content and I hope he has great things to report back! Best of luck! You can’t help but feel the enthusiasm and the love for the region and area and people. Amazing guest!
Limestone hardness 3-4 Silica Sand hardness 5-6 The saws used silica sand and abrasion to cut through the limestone. No laser beams or aliens needed. Just time and effort like anything else worthwhile in life
Ive listen to JRE with Randall and Graham, Mark Lacroix all that but well done to this guy! When youve been listening for 10 years all their stories while cool just keep repeating this was new an refreshing learning about Central America sites. To be honest I'm more fascinated with that then Egypt now.
DEFENENTLY AWESOME! Im an amateur archaeo in Mexico last 17 years, 24 pyramids, 3 not "discovered" by Mexicos Anthropologist (actually they do know but that would change everything as the sculptures of long tall skinny people was not that of what we see in the Mayan region. Although my channel is dedicated to other things, my personal passion was based off of finding my family roots that's led me this far, my instagram is totally dedicated and have some serious exposure and facts to the sites Ive been. Love it but I had to write becuase it was non stop with myself having "the explanation" & what your truly looking at - practically 80% of my information has all came from actual local people to elders and to Shamans in the Yucatan jungle as im American but Bi lingual from Mexican family - I hope to one day maybe retrace my steps & contacts as again Ive done it for personnal pleasure but BOYyyy you guys are scratching the surface on everything shown and the factual truth your looking right at it ....... Took many natives to give me "the eye to see" X marks the spot..... GREAT SHOW!
PS: Toltec was Never a Civilization but a Philosophy taught thru out Anahuac aka now known as North America but the communication language used thru out & still spoken at a great portion of southern Mexico is Nahuatl for tribes to communicate with each other but broken down to tribe to tribe they had thier own language. Named "MEX - ico" for the MIX of literally Thousands of tribes in the Central Mexico basin.
This was a great podcast. Lukes spreading some great knowledge on the ancient past of mesoamercia. Great stuff on Palenque. Was recetly there and made a short documentry on the megaliths that are found at one side of Pakals palace and just south of it.
Great Show! Love his enthusiasm! My dad was in Peru in the 80s and explored pretty amazing stuff in those jungles. My dad came back with brain surgery tools and chimu dolls.
Amazing podcast! Really enjoyed it. Brought me back to my travels while I was teaching in Mexico. Appreciate Luke’s humble approach to wanting to research the Mayan ruins of Lacondon region. Brought me back to the rafting trip we took in the early 2000’s on the Lacandona river. I remember those howling monkeys sure didn’t want us in their territory.
Most of the Peruvian stonework wasn’t built in Granite but Andesite which is harder than granite. There are clear marks of vitrification in the borders which means some sort of heating process and also the texture of most blocks in Cusco have a very similar texture almost “cloth like”
This is the most exciting and fascinating conversation I've watched in years! I'm awestruck, excited like a small child - and discombobulated to the edge of my understanding. Amazing. Thakyou so very much 🎉
Why do people always say that they jammed upper and lower Egypt backwards because they didn’t know north from south, and ignore that the pyramids of Giza are PERFECTLY oriented to the cardinal directions? Like wot?
Yeah I was probably wrong when I said that. I think I conflated upper & lower with north & south. They may not have seen it that way. It’s interesting watching this conversation back. Tons of small details that I need to iron out in my head
@@lukecaverns i wasn’t intending to direct this at you directly. It isn’t only you I hear say it, it’s repeated more often than not. I agree on premise that they named it that way for other factors but I think the proof is in the pudding that they were well aware of cardinal directions. I personally subscribe to the idea that the river was the cause, but it was elevation, not cardinal directions. I’m about halfway through this and have learned much about South America I never knew. I appreciate all open minds that are curious enough to search, so I hope you didn’t take my initial comment as an insult.
I am impressed by this Luke Caverns guy !!!!!! I would follow his passion into the depths of the unknown, I am in Goldsboro, NC and will join this expedition for sure !
You're telling me they had everything built aligned to the stars and had almost perfect symmetry and precision, but they didn't know what was north and south? "OH brother, this guy stinks!" -SpongeBob reference
He keeps mentioning relative dating and it's various uses and I must say, it's actually very interesting stuff. I did a whole workshop on it at the University of Alabama.
Dude this guy is amazing, he's so humble and kind. The way he speaks about the ancient Maya civilization with so much wonder and emotion... You know that meme where it says born too late to explore the world and born too soon to explore space.. He completely shattered that meme for me for sure💯👏
That's our problem, people are looking up in the sky for UFOs instead of looking into the jungle for the true history of the creation of South/Central American Antiquity!!
I completely respect his thoughts on the pyramids and sphinx. Just being open to other peoples theories on them is nice to see out of someone with more traditional views
Ironically enough I found a few gold spanish coins growing up playing in the same area. There was a creek that I used to dig all over Northwest of San Antonio. Lots of cool stuff comes out of the ground if you know what to look for and where. I have given over most my stone points when I found out that they were Clovis alas no clue where I dug them =(
Once Luke gets used to talking with someone else to concisely connect all these different cultures and how connected they were. He could very well change/ help rediscover ancient knowledge and perhaps even the connection of ancient civilizations. What stuck out to me when looking at the Google earth maps was how shallow the continental shelf is in some of those areas that you know there is some old cities swallowed by the oceans.
This dude saying getting bit by a rattlesnake without treatment except for some Benadryl and rest is insane. I love your guests Danny but this guy just wasn’t prepared and some of his information even I knew was false.
Isn’t it high time to take seriously the possibility that these ancient megalithic builders used levitation technology? Shouldn’t we stop assuming that the older civilizations were less advanced than more modern ones? The most advanced technology in the universe is found in nature.
This dude dropped incredible knowledge. Gunna take weeks to rewatch this and understand the details. Which I am absolutely going to do. It is worth the time
The conquistadors reported all these roads and towns and peoples throughout the Amazon when they first arrived including an all female warrior tribe from which the name derives. It wasn't 30,000 yrs ago. It's quite fascinating and available to view on YT. Look under vids about the S American giants.
Some other guy mentioned it here in the comments but it’s worth repeating. The blocks at sacsayhauman are made of andecite and the quarry for these stones was hundreds of miles up the mountain. This means the large megalithic blocks were transported down a steep mountainside all with “primitive”tools and in a window of time of about 150 years of the Inkan civilization. The mainstream story is skeptical to say the least
@2:20:30 "something NOONE is talking about" peep old world florida yo, all the phoenicians following gulf stream content you want, and how they interacted with the tropical people. "hell on earth - ancient finnish wisdom" is a good one.
Get this to John Leguizamo. He did a stand up special talking about the white washing of the ancient Mesoamerican world. He would be a great resource to get this produced.
I love the fact the host is able to stay quiet for a long time letting the speaker unveil information. I do see his desire to learn too being very attentive asking great follow up questions
I always laugh a little when I hear a guest say something like, "Have you heard of Robert Schoch?" Idk, I guess it makes me want to say, "Well good morning, it's time you started to wake up." To his credit I like how he's using the organic material used in the construction to create a valid timeline for some more of the artifacts in Egypt. I never knew that timbers were ever used "in" the construction of some of the pyramids.
That is a fair observation... I have my own opinion on that, but instead of explaining your point for you, can you go back, review the evidence, and disect why you felt that way? Or nah?
For a while when I was young I couldn't understand why people acted like we've already found everything. It always felt wrong. I'm so happy to have people like Luke out there showing us just how wrong that worldview is. There is more we can learn about our past than generations and generations can find and explore.... How FUCKING old is our species, and how much have we actually done? It's insane.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Luke’s family gold mines
9:57 - Luke's view on the Pyramids of Egypt
13:29 - Controversy over first pyramid build in Egypt
16:33 - Dating of the Sphinx - Dr Robert Schoch
25:43 - Cedars of Lebanon in Bent Pyramid
35:18 - Pyramids in Mexico & South America; Anti-seismic ancient structures
46:46 - Stone scoop marks; evidence of acid used to FUSE stones together
54:13 - Viracochea, The "Fanged Diety"
1:05:11 - Mysteries of the Olmecs - moving 40 ton stones
1:20:03 - Ancient cultures connection to psychedelics, music, & the Spiritual Realm
1:27:33 - 30,000 BC Amazon Caves
1:31:11 - Percy Fawcett's expidetion to find lost city in the Amazon
1:35:35 - Pre-Younger Dryas Structers & Unusual Precision
1:40:45 - Solid Block Myan Stonemanship
1:48:06 - The lost Mayan city of Palenque; Lost Mayan Atlantis
1:55:31 - Deadliest animals in Mesoamerica & Amazon
2:13:30 - Could Ancient Egypt and Mesomericans Communicated?
2:22:46 - Maya Library of Codex Destroyed
2:34:36 - Ancient lost cities & pyramids just discovered using lidar scans of uncharted jungles
2:44:34 - The ancient Maya city of Yaxchilán
3:00:42 - Cartels in Mexico & the Amazon
3:12:09 - What it's like exploring uncharted jungles alone
3:16:23 - 2024 Open Expedition Uncharted Ruins
3:20:58 - Mayan Jaguar Death Whistle
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2:17:05
Luke said two different logographs say craving is a Traveler.
Most Indians/Mayans traveled. Maybe it makes more sense the person with a Turban and Beard is a Sea Traveler - Seafarers like Phoenicians as Luke said.
Not a Foot Traveler.
Excellent show
First time seeing!
cedar is not a hardwood but a softwood and the eygtions would have known this. but in the dry climate there it would have been a very long lasting wood.
This guy needs to talk to billy Carson,he’s missing most of his own story!?
After a few years of hearing cities in the rainforest…glad you found someone who’s been out there and researching them…fascinating episode
Your show is scratching an itch that just can’t be satisfied elsewhere. Keep this great content coming Danny!
Danny, thank you so much for extending this opportunity to me. This was my first time ever on a live, in studio podcast. Thank you so much. I hope everyone enjoys!🏛️
*Some show notes*: in the beginning, we discuss the evidence towards the Pyramids being built by the Egyptians vs a lost civilization: but firstly I want to say - when I said "Egyptians didn't know North & South", you have to remember that the Nile was populated for thousands of years before Dynastic Egypt. It was during this time that the areas of Upper & Lower Egypt were named. At this point in time, there was no knowledge of North & South,
Furthermore I, personally, believe the Egyptians DID build the pyramids & there is a lot of small evidence in support of that-that didn’t come to mind here as I was a bit nervous at the beginning (such as the graffiti of “Khufu’s gang” in the relieving chambers of the Great Pyramid, the cartouche of Snefru inside the Bent Pyramid & the decorated interior of Menkaure’s Pyramid).
However, the main hang up for me are the Cedar logs imported from Lebanon (carbon dated to about 4,500ya) found imbedded into the Bent Pyramid’s ceilings to bolster the roof & keep the chambers from collapsing-if an unstable pyramid had been built 10,500+ years ago, I’m not sure that it would have lasted long enough for the dynastic Egyptians to arrive & install Cedar beams in the roof. After this episode, I needed to go back & dive into this subject again. I go into much more detail in this video I just put out: ruclips.net/video/-qgOb8fAp9Y/видео.htmlsi=aB9ZVKxmWTggkzTh
Now, just because we ‘may’ know who built the pyramids-does not answer how they were built, like a lot of Egyptologist & “mainstream” archaeologists may make it seem. All of the strange anomalies & mysteries of Egyptian architecture that Ben & Randall pointed out on previous episodes are still true.
However, again, my specialty is the Ancient Civilizations of the Americas, which we dive into right after that.
I hope we touched on a lot of topics that some of you may not have been familiar with! Some of the largest, megalithic stonework ever constructed is actually in ancient Peru-NOT Egypt! And if we follow the religious & architectural influences of these cultures, it points towards the origins of megalithic architecture emerging from somewhere deep within the Amazon jungle. Here is a link to the video that I just published out today on this topic: ruclips.net/video/PGPObVlDZus/видео.htmlsi=NjD00IFUGw7e4kP9
And finally, “Mayan Atlantis”: Classical archaeology has determined that civilization is almost always built out of “necessity”. Meaning that, only when people are forced to live in arid conditions (like along the Nile River of Egypt, the Middle East, or Indus Valley) does civilization emerge. Because of this, they say there is no reason for Atlantis to have existed if it were built during the time of the Ice Age/Younger Dryas, in a tropical, mild climate. However; the Maya completely break that mold, as a civilization that emerged from a tropical jungle with ALL of the natural resources they could ever need. There was no “necessity” for them to built a megalithic, scientifically oriented, star mapping civilization-but they did it.
I’m so honored to be a guest on Danny’s show. I hope to come at some point soon! Thank you all so, so much.
Well thanks for coming on. This is going to be a banger.
Luke really wrote a book in the comments
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@@JulianDoreywe all have our little quirks. Yours is only sleeping 1hr per day 💀
@@JulianDoreyhah.. danny needs to pin this and publish it for the next encyclopedia britannica
Love this dude’s mindset. Backs up his claims with evidence, doesn’t pretend to know everything and is open to being proved wrong. That’s what we need, great interview!
Did he back up the claim that 'no one has any clue how the pyramids were built' with "evidence"? No. It's false.
Danny is on a roll with all these top tier guests and ancient civilization episodes!
Blessed.
Facts my man
I used to always follow breaking news and political stuff. But shits so crazy/fake/gay that this kind of content has over taken my brain power. I love it
Yes roll with the money not the facts....
Your kidding me, this guy regurgitated everyone else's research. It was like watching a student teach the class.
@@Pro-zh9up This type of content and knowledge is insanely popular right now.
Would you rather him be just another boring mainstream guy? Or to add to the overall cause?
This dude is like like the 4th generation of guys in his family doing stuff like this.
Not like you're doing anything to help find answers. Go back to paying Xbox if your this upset
I literally felt in love with this dude, I’m glad there’s people like him exploring the Mayan world. He seems genuine and passionate about the topic
Literally fell in love? I don't think he's a Grindr fan 😂
Man it’s refreshing for somebody to come along and not be totally dismissive of one idea or the other. Not sure if I’ve heard anybody so open to multiple ideas. Most of these dudes that come along are so stuck on their beliefs and unwilling to admit that they may be wrong. Hes not married to his ideas, and he’s open to all evidence. So rare
Right?! I love it! It gives me hope
The only thing was in the beginning! When he said there was “NO WAY!” The Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids!
“But I’ve never been there!”😳🙄
This was by far one of my favorite guest to ever speak on these topics. Most are married to their own ideas and everyone is wrong and they are right. But not this guy. He was open minded, respectful, and non judgmental on other archeologists. Give this man his own show because I’m hooked. Watched this from start to finished. Loved the part about the bees and the crocodiles 🐊
@@J-Mac8he has to say that if he ever wants to go to Egypt in the future.
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The Jaguar whistle is from my shop, we are third generation clay craftsman located in Joshua Tx, our shop is based on Mesoamerican Mythology, the carvings around it are Quetzalcoatl, or Kukulkán, the feathered serpent! I would love to send you a free jaguar!!!
Did you get a chance to send one?
I love this podcast so much. I think Danny is a fantastic interviewer. Keeps the Congo going on cool directions but lets the guest speak the most. Best show out right now.
Facts
I really enjoy long format podcasts and this is quickly becoming one of my favorites. New sub. Keep it up!
Luke is an awesome new voice in this space. I'll be watching everything he does.
Everybody is gonna love Luke. Kid's on the come up!!
for his age.. he sure has good memory of the history.
Thank you bro! I gotta work on making my stories more concise as time goes on. Running through the gauntlet has taught me so much in the last couple weeks
@@realWARPIGscoffed at them? Which podcast are you watching
@@realWARPIGhe said multiple times Egypt isn't his specialty and would be fine with someone proving him wrong.
@JulianDorey did you ever watch that Matt Taibbi and Malcolm Gladwell debate?
I really like Luke, you can tell he has so much knowledge to offer. He’s a bit scattered in his direction right now but that’ll improve with experience. I’m 27 and just hearing his story in the beginning makes me want to pursue a path I missed out on in anthropology long ago when I didn’t know what I wanted to do in school. I always wondered why there’s not more exposure to the mysteries of the ancient sites in the americas and boom, this guy pops up. Looking forward to more from you @lukecaverns
"As a guy who's never been to the pyramids, I think..." sooo much knowledge
Dude if your only 27…please believe me…you didn’t miss out on anything! Do it all now! Go back to school or whatever you need to do to pursue your dreams!
I'm 29 and feel the same exact way. Construction just doesn't hit the same way as this line of work does
to the 20+ years old here saying they've missed out on things. JUST DO IT. do it now, go for it, study it on the side if you must. This is your future talking to you, I'm 50 and regretting not pursuing archaeology. You could argue is never late and I could definitely invest in it just for kicks but the years I would have ahead of me to accumulate experience...you get what I'm saying. I repeat go. for. it.
Love to open mindedness, skepticism, and passion this dude brings to all these conversations
This guy is going to be a star. I can’t wait for his pilot to come out! And it should!! Thanks for this awesome podcast!!
yeah this guy is going to be a rockstar! Calling it also!
College and universities have become so institutionalized, so i appreciate independent antheopologists, scientists, researchers, engineers etc who are open minded yet skeptical enough to record knowledge and test it instead of just blindly going with whats been established
The only estabilshed thing is reality
Where do you think the archeologists, scientists, engineers, etc got their education?? They got it at universities. Yes, they teach you what has been established to be history, but they very much encourage fresh thoughts. When you get your Master's degree, generally, you need an original project or thesis, in which your own thoughts are very much welcomed!!
This was one of the most captivating, informative, adventurous conversations I have ever listened to
Luke, you're wrong about erosion of the Pyramids. The base of the Pyramid which is partially constructed of the bedrock limestone shows a lot of erosion -- more than the main structural blocks of the Pyramid. This would make sense because the pyramids were covered with casing stones for most of their existence -- and those casing stones were repaired as they deteriorated. But the limestone near the base of the Pyramid show's a lot of erosion.
The walls of the Sphynx pit were never protected by casing stones -- they could erode freely.
It stands to reason that Egyptians wouldn't have allowed working monuments and temples to erode so badly while they were inhabited. In fact, the Dynastic Egyptians worked to repair the Sphynx -- which implies that it went a very long time without any maintenance at all. The same with the Sphynx temple. It was abandoned for a very long time -- long enough to naturally erode with water.
When the pyramids were made, they were clad in casing stones. The inner blocks couldn't erode. The casing stones would have to completely erode before the underlying stones could receive any erosion. If new casing stones were applied, this non-erosion of the inner blocks would be indefinite. You'd never know how old the Pyramids actually were if you based it upon erosion patterns.
Rainfall in Egypt has been virtually nil for thousands of years as well. Even if the initial casing stones were mostly gone by 2000BC, there wouldn't have been much erosion to speak of since that period... but we know casing stones existed because we know they were quarried away within that time frame from 2000BC on.
Cedar dating would be good for dating but only if it was guaranteed that the cedar was original -- and not replaced over time.
"It stands to reason that Egyptians wouldn't have allowed working monuments and temples to erode so badly while they were inhabited." in theory, I get what you're saying, but that isn't correct. Temples, tombs & Necropoli were left abandoned many times over in Egypt. You have to consider the terminal periods when Egypt fell under foreign rule or instability. The Sphinx, I can agree, seems to be older than many other sites in Egypt - even the pyramids. How I reconcile why that is, I don't know.
Also, the casing stones are still on Khafre's pyramid. If they are 12,000+ years old, you would see limestone erosion more similar to the Sphinx. There's also no evidence to suggest that the casing stones were continuously replaced over time. Even if they were built in 10,500 BC, that civilization would have been wiped out at the end of the Younger Dryas, leaving the Pyramids to sit & erode in regular rainfall for another 4,000-5,000 years. Nobody would have been there to maintain them.
The Cedar logs were installed in the Bent pyramid to bolster the roof - likely because it is unstable. If it is unstable, it wouldn't have lasted 12,000+ years. There's also not really an argument that they could have been replaced over the course of thousands of years because we have archaeological evidence of habitation along the nile as far back as 70,000 BC. Only around 3,500 Bc do we start to see the construction of homes. There is no evidence of residents in Egypt around 12,000 that would have had the ability to sail to Lebanon to acquire lumber strong enough to bolster the Bent Pyramid's ceiling.
@@lukecavernswhy would there be evidence? The Sahara shows visible evidence of a massive flood.
We also know that Egyptian culture imitated itself, but as time went on the imitations were less and less impressive.
There's also an interesting theory that the the Giza pyramids were a type of garden technology. There is a square well shaft adjunct to the right side of the sphinx, the theory is this connected to the well underground the pyramid and when the Nile flooded it contributed the water to create a pump and when the Nile receded the water was continuously circulating, hence the water erosion of the Sphinx, which could be used as an argument that the sphinx is not as old as people think. I really don't know. Regardless whoever built the pyramids seems to have emerged suddenly without precedence and then continuously degraded in technical ability. All the worlds mythologies encode the science of the catastrophe veiled in it's symbology.
@@lukecaverns Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't there writings about repairs to the casing stones? I thought I heard that somewhere. If you're making repairs, then there's no way of saying which cashing stones were original -- if any.
Also, first course or 2 at the base of one of the pyramids is partially carved out of the bedrock limestone on the Giza plateau. The erosion at that base looks very old. The stone has had all it's corners eroded off. Way more erosion than the structural blocks of the remaining courses of the pyramid.
Wasn't the ocean a couple hundred meters lower 12,000 years ago? Most civilizations would've been on the coastal areas. Most of the evidence of habitation 12K years ago would be under the ocean. In fact, the water table is so high now, that many underground structures are no longer accessible around Egypt. Structures which would've preserved evidence.
Once you include inevitable tsunamis and ocean rise events from such a large amount of tonnage entering the ocean, I would think the only things that survived after 12K years ago was wiped away -- unless it was large and made of stone.
Also, why have we not discovered the antecedent works which preceded all the greatest works -- which seem to have been created at the earliest. The oldest are the best built. But you don't become the best built out of the blue. I suspect there's a wealth of things yet to be discover off the coast of Egypt or other nearby areas.
It strains credulity to believe that the know-how to build the pyramids and move large stones seems to have just appeared about 4000 years ago -- and then was unlearned in an instant. There should be hundreds of smaller scale experiments which show an evolution of engineering which slowly culminates -- but we don't see that. The only explanation which seems to match that pattern is that the proof of that tech experimentation is below the waterline.
But I'm no expert on Egypt. Perhaps there are dozens of small pyramids dotting the region which show the development experience required to build the larger ones.
To produce it's greatest works, a civilization should be showing that development over time -- but the Giza pyramids just appear without any antecedents I know of. There should be smaller pyramids all over Egypt showing these developing techniques, but AFAIK, there aren't. Then after those pyramids were built, the engineering knowledge just seems to have vanished... even though that tech was able to develop over thousands of years amid regular wars prior to the building of the pyramids.
I'm betting that those antecedents are below the ocean. If they are, then it will prove that Pyramid tech was developed prior to the Younger Dryas. The Y-D cataclysm would've only left the works on highest ground. Such a cataclysm would also explain how thousands of years of development was suddenly cut short... the catastrophes caused by meltwater would be continuous -- earthquakes, tsunamis, etc... even if the water rise was slow, the impact of its tonnage would cause massive tectonic and climate upset.
But it's all just speculation. Even so, when there's a seeming glitch in history, it implies gen-o-side or cataclysms which could do the same. As far as we know, there was no such total obliteration of the population during the last 4000 years. Only a practical gen-o-side could remove all the engineers and craftsmen as well as the journeymen and apprentices... along with their tools, their dwellings, their workshops, and their writings.
When was Egypt last lush? I'd wager that was when the pyramids were built... just before the climate became too dry to support the amount of calories required to build the pyramids.
The argument I've seen against rain weathering of the Sphinx says that the erosion was actually caused by flooding. I hate to say it but if only the bottoms of the pyramids are eroded it's possible that flooding was the cause of that. I tend to believe this sphinx is very old but I really don't know how legitimate the flooding argument is
@@lukecavernsone quick thing, I dont believe that Graham or Randall were saying that the pyramids weren't built by the Egyptians. If im not mistaken their thoughts are that the layout or "foundations" was there previously and then built upon, also that the sphinx was much older and was once a lion, hence the erosion of the base of the pyramids and the sphinx enclosure. Im pretty sure thats what their argument is, not that the Egyptians didn't build them at all. Ben's opinions are somewhat different from graham's, saying the objects inside some are obviously different construction from others and focusing more on stoneworking techniques, he seems to attribute much less to the Egyptians than Graham and Randall.
He can tell he is still growing into his own understanding of things but really seems to be on the right path!
If his maternal grandfather was a minister and was into investigating “Bible stories” in reality he would’ve been a “religious theologian” not a “historian.”
I had no idea Luke Caverns was even going to be on the show... this is great
Hope you like it!
I was interested, but stopped when he clearly shows he has no real idea what he is talking about. He just regurgitates the ideas of Graham Hancock and his 'clan' of people (I am quite familiar with them and know their viewpoints, which are rather interesting). I stopped when he said 'these western selfish people that tore down Rome or something'.... that's actually quite a recent liberal western narrative of self hate; largely by US mainstream media and UK bullshittery like the BBC. Humans are gonna human, no matter if it's us, or those other guys half way around the world.
If he read some decent history he knew that when Pizarro came back to the Inca's with his army, Pizarro could easily crush them coz turns out the Inca's just came out of a bloody civil war that left 100.000 death on either side of the brotherly succession war, entire villages were wiped of the face of the earth by them. Similar stories you hear from Hernan Cortez that actually defeated the Aztecs with the help of all the other tribes that were suppressed by the Aztecs quite similar to a Lawrence of Arabia story how the Arabs revolted against their suppression by the Ottomans... so let's just cut the crap that these were benevolent Samaritan natives and that 'the evil white westerners' came to destroy them... no, this is just human nature, people gonna people wherever we go coz our basic human instincts and emotions are exactly the same, that's just the nature of our animal as being a homo sapiens.
Why wont comments on where to find pics of the cedars of lebenon in bent pyramid stay this will be my third tome mentioning hope it stays this time on your comment or reply@@dannyjones
Holy crap clicked just bc I'm a Mexican who's super curious out ancient America, thought I'd click off in 5 mins im 3 hours in and can't wait to watch his whole channel. Tremendous and good job on the host for letting him go off without interrupting
Check out the book "1491: The Americas Before Columbus" easy to read and there is tons of evidence of the ancient cities of the Americas. That book really opened up to me just how advanced the South American civilizations were
Check out my channel... Proved America is the true old world
Thank you for inviting Luke over, very good conversation!🙂
Amazing podcast once again, would love to see Luke on more podcasts or he gets the chance to do a documentary or tv series exploring and looking for these sites. Much love from Australia 🇦🇺
Great show guys, I love a host that lets the guests speak and only jumps in to further the story.. brilliant
Man, I could listen to Luke all day. His passion is absolutely infectious. You can tell how excited it makes him, because he's just jumping from one rabbit hole to the next, sometimes without even finishing his initial thought haha. Three hours flew by, and I could've just as easily sat through another three!
Love the passion too, but had to stop. The guy can’t even finish a sentence. It’s frustrating. As a “story teller” he’s not good at telling stories.
Oh my goodness. When you first started playing the native Papua New Guinea man singing I had a shiver go through my whole body.
Much as I love music I’ve never had that happen before.
Absolutely fascinating podcast. I’ve learnt so much in this one.
Thanks Danny for being the great interviewer you are and inviting people like Luke and Ben onto your show.
The first time the singing was played, it was a heavily processed version. There were octaves added, and background pads too
Really enjoying all these podcasts with ufos and stuff, you present yourself very well and actually listen but speak up when needed which is great to watch. Keep up the hard work.
I am so incredibly thankful that Atlantis is being presented as an actual civilization and not myth. The current paradigm in regards to ancient history and human origins makes no sense, and it’s refreshing to see experts challenging that narrative.
Check out Matt Lacroix RUclips channel for more cutting-edge info about Atlantis. He needs to be on this show sometime!
@@wyldfantasies Thanks for the recommendation!
Once I was tripping in a temperate rainforest in Australia, during the depths of a clear night. I became captivated by images and shapes I could see in the night sky, which I can still see in my mind's eye and can now only assume to be Maya glyphs
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Me and a buddy in highschool tripped at his house one time and saw the same things. We both felt like we were propelled to what we thought were Aztec pyramids, and we saw feathered snakes and jaguars. The glyphs were amazing.
It definitely could have been Mayan and not Aztec as we thought at the time.
😂😅
Great podcast! This guy is a lot smarter than other dudes I’ve heard talk about Mexico history or central or South America , he is educated well on it and also doesn’t use his speculation as fact , he clearly states it , now this is a man who is well educated on what he is talking about
Wow! I was so intrigued and fascinated that I didn’t even realize it was an almost 4hr podcast. Great interview and hope you have him on again in the future after his next expedition maybe 🤷🏽♂️🤞💪
I recently found your podcast Danny a couple months ago and had to subscribe, grateful I did because you've had some of my favorite human beings on lately and fantastic content deserves appreciation. Really enjoyed Luke's excitement and passion for what he's doing, makes listening to him very easy, he's gained a sub as well!
They’re not human beings they’re aliens 👽
This guy is so enthusiastic and so young and fresh. Can’t wait for more content and I hope he has great things to report back! Best of luck! You can’t help but feel the enthusiasm and the love for the region and area and people. Amazing guest!
His family history is like a movie!
100%
Luke's? And where can I hear it?
@@aaronmiller7954first 10mins of the podcast
@@aaronmiller7954the first few minutes of the podcast. Do you just click on videos to read comments?
@@Avogadros_number🤣🤣
I've listened to hundreds if not thousands of hours of podcasts, and this was by far the best one I've listened to. Thank you for your work, brotha.
First time I’ve ever heard from Luke caverns he’s great to listen to love the topics you guys have covered
Luke your passion is inspiring. I wish I was able to go with you on expeditions. I believe in you man. Phenomenal podcast gentlemen!
Limestone hardness 3-4
Silica Sand hardness 5-6
The saws used silica sand and abrasion to cut through the limestone. No laser beams or aliens needed. Just time and effort like anything else worthwhile in life
Ive listen to JRE with Randall and Graham, Mark Lacroix all that but well done to this guy! When youve been listening for 10 years all their stories while cool just keep repeating this was new an refreshing learning about Central America sites. To be honest I'm more fascinated with that then Egypt now.
Nice because I was just thinking the same thing lol I haven't heard anything really new for years lol all on repeat
DEFENENTLY AWESOME! Im an amateur archaeo in Mexico last 17 years, 24 pyramids, 3 not "discovered" by Mexicos Anthropologist (actually they do know but that would change everything as the sculptures of long tall skinny people was not that of what we see in the Mayan region. Although my channel is dedicated to other things, my personal passion was based off of finding my family roots that's led me this far, my instagram is totally dedicated and have some serious exposure and facts to the sites Ive been. Love it but I had to write becuase it was non stop with myself having "the explanation" & what your truly looking at - practically 80% of my information has all came from actual local people to elders and to Shamans in the Yucatan jungle as im American but Bi lingual from Mexican family - I hope to one day maybe retrace my steps & contacts as again Ive done it for personnal pleasure but BOYyyy you guys are scratching the surface on everything shown and the factual truth your looking right at it ....... Took many natives to give me "the eye to see" X marks the spot..... GREAT SHOW!
PS: Toltec was Never a Civilization but a Philosophy taught thru out Anahuac aka now known as North America but the communication language used thru out & still spoken at a great portion of southern Mexico is Nahuatl for tribes to communicate with each other but broken down to tribe to tribe they had thier own language. Named "MEX - ico" for the MIX of literally Thousands of tribes in the Central Mexico basin.
Watched this twice and subbed to Luke's channel. He just went out and found like 15 pyramids about 3 weeks ago
All overgrown. Fascinating
This sounds so much similar to the research going on in India. It looks like every ancient civilization was connected to each other.
India is extremely fascinating as well. They have some crazy stuff.
The acid shaping stone theory is fascinating. It could explain SO much of the mystery across many of the ancient sites
This was a great podcast. Lukes spreading some great knowledge on the ancient past of mesoamercia.
Great stuff on Palenque. Was recetly there and made a short documentry on the megaliths that are found at one side of Pakals palace and just south of it.
this was such a good watch, i really look forward to seeing what luke can find over these coming years.
Great Show! Love his enthusiasm! My dad was in Peru in the 80s and explored pretty amazing stuff in those jungles. My dad came back with brain surgery tools and chimu dolls.
Amazing podcast! Really enjoyed it. Brought me back to my travels while I was teaching in Mexico. Appreciate Luke’s humble approach to wanting to research the Mayan ruins of Lacondon region. Brought me back to the rafting trip we took in the early 2000’s on the Lacandona river. I remember those howling monkeys sure didn’t want us in their territory.
Love this guy!!!! Danny Great Podcast, you’re killing it!💯🔥🎯🫡
Thanks for uploading. Luke has a great way of presenting his work and knowledge.
Most of the Peruvian stonework wasn’t built in Granite but Andesite which is harder than granite. There are clear marks of vitrification in the borders which means some sort of heating process and also the texture of most blocks in Cusco have a very similar texture almost “cloth like”
Tell me you didn’t listen to the podcast without telling me lol
I love the attitude of your guest towards science, evidence and how he builds an 'opinion' out of it.
The control of gold seems to ultimately influence everything in our world for ages
Yep. Our celestial masters needed it for its conductive properties so they could get off this rock.
Your content really does provide such a pure and refreshing perspective. There is nothing else like your show. Thank you.
Cant wait to watch this one! Caverns is awesome.
this was one of the best podcast episodes ive ever listened to
The one thing I got is that the crocodile guy who made fun of Graham Hancock owes an apology lol
Paul Roselie already clarified his opinion on that.
Also, he's the snake guy, not the crocodile guy.
This is the most exciting and fascinating conversation I've watched in years!
I'm awestruck, excited like a small child - and discombobulated to the edge of my understanding.
Amazing.
Thakyou so very much 🎉
I feel like he actually made the argument FOR ancient lost civilizations / tech, even though he came from a “debunking” angle.
Certainly could be argued that way. Just because we ‘may’ know who built the pyramids, doesn’t mean we know HOW they did it!
This was amazing. I’d love him to a documentary about this that i could watch
Why do people always say that they jammed upper and lower Egypt backwards because they didn’t know north from south, and ignore that the pyramids of Giza are PERFECTLY oriented to the cardinal directions? Like wot?
Yeah I was probably wrong when I said that. I think I conflated upper & lower with north & south. They may not have seen it that way.
It’s interesting watching this conversation back. Tons of small details that I need to iron out in my head
@@lukecaverns i wasn’t intending to direct this at you directly. It isn’t only you I hear say it, it’s repeated more often than not. I agree on premise that they named it that way for other factors but I think the proof is in the pudding that they were well aware of cardinal directions. I personally subscribe to the idea that the river was the cause, but it was elevation, not cardinal directions. I’m about halfway through this and have learned much about South America I never knew. I appreciate all open minds that are curious enough to search, so I hope you didn’t take my initial comment as an insult.
@@lukecavernsthere is no inherent "up/down" in cardinal directions or map making.
Its upper in elevation, its up the Nile. Lower is down near the delta of the river.
Up river / upper Egypt
Down river/lower Egypt
They didn’t use the cardinal directions for travel
John anthony west, RIP, is the one who noticed the water erosion on the sphinx. He then got schoch, a geologist, to back him up... for the record.
"Did they have the wheel?..." 😂 look at the stuff they're building! I'm pretty sure the wheel didn't evade their perception.
Yeah the Egyptian chariots had squares on them and just rumbled around
@@KizzMyAbs 🤣🤣🤣
I am impressed by this Luke Caverns guy !!!!!! I would follow his passion into the depths of the unknown, I am in Goldsboro, NC and will join this expedition for sure !
I hope Luke finds a Mayan city that has at least one well preserved room within a temple/pyramid that is chock full of well preserved codices.
With today’s LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) that shouldn’t be difficult. He just needs some of his grandfather’s money, it’s not inexpensive.
One of the best guest yet. Thank you for the knowledge, this guy knows his stuff.
You're telling me they had everything built aligned to the stars and had almost perfect symmetry and precision, but they didn't know what was north and south? "OH brother, this guy stinks!" -SpongeBob reference
One heck of a really provocative presentation. Thank you Dany and Luke.
My man grew up watching Legends of Hidden Temple on Nickelodeon and thought "Yeah, I'ma do that for real."
Love the recent talks on ancient civilizations! Keep pumping them out koncrete!!
Thank you for introducing Luke! He is fascinating and should share more knowledge with us. Hope to find more of him.
Im glad we have new researchers like you coming through and open new horizons in our mysterious ancient history.
He keeps mentioning relative dating and it's various uses and I must say, it's actually very interesting stuff. I did a whole workshop on it at the University of Alabama.
Dude this guy is amazing, he's so humble and kind. The way he speaks about the ancient Maya civilization with so much wonder and emotion...
You know that meme where it says born too late to explore the world and born too soon to explore space.. He completely shattered that meme for me for sure💯👏
Has anybody heard of Geoffrey Drumm?
His theory about the pyramids being chemical power plants is really interesting
Land of Chem would be a great guest.
Danny you are doing such a fantastic job, man.
Glad to have found out about Luke! thank you both
That's our problem, people are looking up in the sky for UFOs instead of looking into the jungle for the true history of the creation of South/Central American Antiquity!!
I completely respect his thoughts on the pyramids and sphinx. Just being open to other peoples theories on them is nice to see out of someone with more traditional views
Ironically enough I found a few gold spanish coins growing up playing in the same area. There was a creek that I used to dig all over Northwest of San Antonio. Lots of cool stuff comes out of the ground if you know what to look for and where. I have given over most my stone points when I found out that they were Clovis alas no clue where I dug them =(
Once Luke gets used to talking with someone else to concisely connect all these different cultures and how connected they were. He could very well change/ help rediscover ancient knowledge and perhaps even the connection of ancient civilizations. What stuck out to me when looking at the Google earth maps was how shallow the continental shelf is in some of those areas that you know there is some old cities swallowed by the oceans.
This dude saying getting bit by a rattlesnake without treatment except for some Benadryl and rest is insane. I love your guests Danny but this guy just wasn’t prepared and some of his information even I knew was false.
He was plenty prepared he explained himself pretty well they went off on tangents not of his profession given but all in all he’s pretty smart
I love how he had different point a views that really made sense a great watch thank you guys ❤❤
Isn’t it high time to take seriously the possibility that these ancient megalithic builders used levitation technology? Shouldn’t we stop assuming that the older civilizations were less advanced than more modern ones? The most advanced technology in the universe is found in nature.
Levitation or giants
This dude dropped incredible knowledge. Gunna take weeks to rewatch this and understand the details. Which I am absolutely going to do. It is worth the time
The conquistadors reported all these roads and towns and peoples throughout the Amazon when they first arrived including an all female warrior tribe from which the name derives. It wasn't 30,000 yrs ago. It's quite fascinating and available to view on YT. Look under vids about the S American giants.
I LOVE ❤️ 😍 when people say they have the photos that could basically prove their entire story, but starts off by saying he didn't bring them with.
Some other guy mentioned it here in the comments but it’s worth repeating. The blocks at sacsayhauman are made of andecite and the quarry for these stones was hundreds of miles up the mountain. This means the large megalithic blocks were transported down a steep mountainside all with “primitive”tools and in a window of time of about 150 years of the Inkan civilization. The mainstream story is skeptical to say the least
Absolutely correct. And in person it’s even more mind boggling.
@2:20:30 "something NOONE is talking about" peep old world florida yo, all the phoenicians following gulf stream content you want, and how they interacted with the tropical people. "hell on earth - ancient finnish wisdom" is a good one.
Tenochtitlan: The Atlantis of the Ancient Aztec Empire aka modern day Mexico City
Rockin` it like a Boss Danny❤
Get this to John Leguizamo. He did a stand up special talking about the white washing of the ancient Mesoamerican world. He would be a great resource to get this produced.
I love the fact the host is able to stay quiet for a long time letting the speaker unveil information. I do see his desire to learn too being very attentive asking great follow up questions
Ehh...2600 bc on the red pyramid. Could have been Egyptions trying to make a pyramid like the 3 great but without the knowledge.
Well, in the ancient text it does say Thoth built them
This was soooo good! I hope he comes back on and what a cool gift! Your podcasts are amazing man! Keep it up!
I always laugh a little when I hear a guest say something like, "Have you heard of Robert Schoch?"
Idk, I guess it makes me want to say, "Well good morning, it's time you started to wake up."
To his credit I like how he's using the organic material used in the construction to create a valid timeline for some more of the artifacts in Egypt. I never knew that timbers were ever used "in" the construction of some of the pyramids.
Yeah this dude needs to stick to what he knows. His America's content is great.
my cat jumped when you blew that whistle thing :D
I really wish I could like this podcast twice.
and get to know these people would be amazing, greetings from Costa Rica Pura Vida !
Lets goooo
Luke's passion is palpable; riveting stuff. Heading over to sub now! Excellent stream.
Ever listen to someone talk and get the feeling they are lying?
That is a fair observation... I have my own opinion on that, but instead of explaining your point for you, can you go back, review the evidence, and disect why you felt that way? Or nah?
Yes on mainstream networks
For a while when I was young I couldn't understand why people acted like we've already found everything. It always felt wrong. I'm so happy to have people like Luke out there showing us just how wrong that worldview is. There is more we can learn about our past than generations and generations can find and explore.... How FUCKING old is our species, and how much have we actually done? It's insane.