Garrett G25 bolt on VW Golf performance results | fullBOOST
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- We catch up with Alex Barnett of Underground Performance to see how the recently released range of Garrett Powermax G25 bolt on turbochargers respond on their VW Golf test mule with some solid performance results.
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We catch up with Alex Barnett of Underground Performance to see how the recently released range of Garrett Powermax G25 bolt on turbochargers respond on their VW Golf test mule with some solid performance results. *Get your track gear! 👉 **shop.fullboost.com.au*
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A bolt on Garrett unit! Very good.
is it possible to mount this turbo on an s3 8v without doing any mapping? or with cartography without exceeding 400hp?
Can i.know the full spec of his g25 660
Amazing to see Alex and UGP still killing the game! We worked with my MK6R to build one of his initial tunes for that platform back in the day of the 'Backyard' tuner! So bloody cool to see the success 👍❤
The gen 3 EA888 in the R and S3 are a pretty remarkable modern 2L....mix that with a DCT and all wheel drive and you arguably have one of funnest and useable daily drivers you can own.
I dunno ay IV got a 16 r and I mean it's fast and everything but it's not very exciting or fun to drive. Just a no nonsense German weapon
Agree’ish. Own r32 GTR in since 2004. Have a 18 R wagon. While the best all round package for daily’ing IMO, my only gripe is “Transversal engine, front wheel biased AWD” nature of them instead of the RWD smokey corner exits of the GTR. Mk8 better I read. That said, it makes the R almost foolproof to drive. Incredible package and I only found out about em 2yrs back. I called them unreliable VAG pieces of shit for years lol.
@@STITCHWA Fun yes, the gearboxes do not like regular heavy traffic and not cheap to keep replacing.
@@madmick3794 mines been good no issues since IV had it
Mk8 R has drift mod ;)
Those s5/a5 S-line wheels look bloody awesome on a golf!!
I thought they were rs3 wheels but they look nice on anything
@@chroniccrypto75 be completely honest I just googled around until I found similar wheels and assumed based off that listing 😂 I know nothing about euro/VAG cars so could be wrong!
@@rhyswerner8749 fair enough doesn’t really matter tbh 🤣😂🤣
@@chroniccrypto75 thats what I was thinking 😂 they look great so fuck it 👌
I think they are RS3? Yes they suit it well.
What a ripper !!! 30psi, Imagine trying to do that on stock EJ20T. Great coverage once again Full Boost for the win
My ej25 failed on 20psi 😐
Many are running 30psi on stock ej207’s
@@chrism6 lol
I’ve seen this car fly past my work few times and definitely a weapon 🌽
Great video. Alex and Gavin are awesome!
cannot recommend UGP enough their knowledge and professionalism is on another level
Agreed! Big fans of their work 😃
These cars are so clean!
Probably washed before the vid.
@@3800TURBO clean before and clean after
Is that compressor surge at 8.53 under full load? Looks like a pretty average tune.
Love me some euro action
ea133 and 1.8ts and the 1.9 / 2.0 diesels also have adaptor kits that go to Australian t5s commodore and falcon, 350 chev and hilux ea888 is the same bell housing but different flywheel bolt pattern and the motor can be had very cheep it's a solid sr replacement.
Well done guys, so exciting to see a fast golf 🔥👅😈👍
This is awesome 👌 👏
Any plans to show the results of the GT2260s? Curious to see how that goes to a stage 2 tune.
UGP had and update on this, from memory that turbo made an even 300kW on this same car.
@@fullboost show graphs rpm torq and Power please 2260s?
@@nandoferbrnando9755 Look up Stratified Tuning up in Canada. They have Dyno plots but honestly it works like the stock I38 only better. Garrett wouldn't engineer something that was worse than stock. 380 whp on 93/RON98, 400+ E50 fuel
Comments on, what sounds like boost surge from 4.5 to 5.5k?
Sleeper for sure, bet it would be much more street friendly than most commodore/falcons running similar 1/4 mile times, plus due to awd I bet it would munch cars off the lights
Wow. Big power for a 2l. Compressor surging at 8.53 under full load?
waste gate fluttering off boost I believe
@@hunterbrink9346 it's definitely on wide open throttle compressor surging. Have watched a few other videos of tunes they have done and noticed it a few times now. Hopefully they fix that before they blow up the turbo.
@@peteramba499 As someone who goes to a lot of dyno session it's pretty common on small frame turbos to see oscillation occur when you are running towards the edge of the compressor map. Remember this was an R&D exercise.
Yes, that’s compressor surge. Not good. You can hear it at 8:43 too
@@fullboost would have been good to address this in the filming, otherwise we don’t know if it was acknowledged by the tuner
Good video 👍
Alex and the UGP team make it look too easy! Interested to see the results out at the track. :)
Thoughts compared to the turbo techniques V5??
Nice
Interesting that just before the turbo runs out of rpm, it stops whistling.
How would adding a ported head impact the performance that you saw on full E with supporting mods?
Guys, what do you think of upgrading turbos on the 1.4 TSI? We don't get the R here and the GTI is too pricey
These gents are amazing, I wont take my car anywhere else
Insane to be making that sort of power without needing to touch the engine and box. How much $ to get an EJ reliably making 350awkw?
Same power on an EJ207 with the 6 speed would be far cheaper than the Golf. The Golf R is very expensive to buy comparatively.
@@LeeXRV his question is about the money spent on mods. Not the price of the car…
@@MarkCalica my point remains relevant given you pay both costs, I mean it’s not like you can opt out of paying the total price of the two combined is it?……….
@@LeeXRV Guess you forgot that you have to build the EJ no matter what to even make reliable 350whp. But sure, keep arguing with yourself...
@@MarkCalica I didn’t forget (I’ve had a few built over the years!) and also owned 4 Golfs so I would class myself in either camp, I’m just pointing out the obvious. Also forgive me for applying some logic here but I can’t be arguing with myself when you’re replying can I?……….
Oh, how i regret the G25-660 😑. G25 was way to small for my application. G30-770 now 👌
What engine are you putting it on?
@@fullboost Ford Focus mk1 zetec 2ltr. Exhaust housing just to small. Was .72ar too. Could've gone with .92ar but decided to upgrade. Benny at benchmark solutions tried his best but 280rwhp was all i could get. Has a C4 auto too which doesn't help.
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@@jason35177 Nice Escort you have there, and I like your hoodie 👍
This turbo G25-660 would be the upgrade to the 2022 wrx Garrett Gt2260s that comes stock on a subie.
This same car made 400whp with a 2260 👍
Do you measuring the 2260s with de 185k rpm gauge to find the boost limit of the 2260s ? How Many bar or psi 2260s support ? To do not do more than 185k rpm limit ?
stock rods and piston?
Hi do you test de rpm limit of the 2260s? How many boost it support? Maximum boost at 185k rpm on gti mk7?
So do you think the G25 is just hype? Thats kind of what im feelin about it.
Overpriced for the improvement but if you want to stay in front, you pay for that improvement. Personally, it wasn't worth it for me as I paid less for two GT2860RS's than I would've for a single G25-550, let alone 660.
The appealing aspect of this turbo is that it's a direct bolt-on.
@@fullboost Yeah, this particular version of the G25 is bolt on for a VW but a universal G25-550/660, nope, stand by my comment boys. Overpriced for the improvement. I put the $2000 I saved from getting the two 2860s into better internals. 👍
The ultimate fart box.
Yep, sounds worse than a Mang with a rear muffler delete... Most people in the industry actually hate working on Eurotrash. They seem to want to reinvent the wheel with everything, and a lot of it isn't an improvement. I mean, WTF is with the "wheel bolts" on the shitboxes?!? If you ever have to change a tyre on the side of the road, it's f#*ked. And WHY, when a stud and but does a much better job. It's one of the first mods you do when pumping boost, replace head bolts with studs... 🤦 And people think the Germans make better engineers, I don't agree... Then there's Eurotrash that you have to buy specialist tools for, some even have bolt heads with a different design. Again, reinventing the wheel.
@@danielbrealey2924 Damn straight my man! The Germans have a habit of eventually perfecting one technology (albeit usually in a painful fashion riddled with warranty claims and owners just out of warranty period being forced to foot the bill) only to bin it entirely on the next generation, go on to the “next big thing” where the process starts again. Not everything’s progress and they really should just knock it off.
@@gregholloway4461 Totally agree pal... I'm sick of TFSI motors needing rebuilding at 120 - 150000 K's. It's unreal people love these POS
@@Low760 True that. Then the game continues; Keeping up with the Jones
Over 5 years in my golf R , never had a problem.
What spec is your g25 660😊
Perfect timing. I’m just about to pull the trigger on a turbo upgrade for my AW Polo GTI (the 2.0 one) so it’s good to see something beyond “chuck on an IS38”
The comments on the Passat and weight being the enemy are bang on. Apply that to a couple of hundred kilos less than a Golf, and…shenanigans 😂 That’s one of the reasons why I got the Polo over the Golf in the first place.
Don't think they have sold AWD Polos here in Aus.
@@fullboost True, that’s why I referenced the Golf as like for like but should have specified the GTI and not the R 🙂
It sucks at the drag strip being FWD, but for roll racing…😁
@@pamacleod What is "roll racing"?
@@MmeDesgranges Its racing for people who can't drive.
Pretty impressive if that holds up over 50,000kms or so. Great daily for sure. Got a G30-900 .83ar on my evo and the results look promising. Aiming for >450-500kw atw. Definitely doesn't make a nice daily though
still running the g30 900 mate.. what power did you make and when is full boost..
@@markc1456 418kw atw @31psi, only holding back while on OEM 5 speed box then will push 40psi. From othersetups that should weild about 470kw atw if it takes 45psi to make 500 atw. It's fully on a bit before 4500rpm on a 2.2 with no mivec. More responsive than my old 762
Okay, what's behind your back? I know you're hold something. Tellll Meeee!!!!!!! LOL
Have you tried a g30-660 on this type of car, would it be better then the g25, how much spool time would you gain with a g30-660. how is the turbo shaft speed that high at only 30psi
"only 30psi", that is a lot of boost :)
What fuel rail are you using
Will these fit the AW Polo GTI 2.0?
Can anyone else hear compressor surge during the spool up?
What rpm peak boost kicks in?
g25 550 or g25 660 your turbo ? and how many octane is your fuel ? is there a methanol kit?
No RON98 (93 octane US) with some E85 the Stage 1 made well over 400 whp. G25-660 is way over 500+ nearing 600whp on E85
Music from the intro? Does anyone know where i can find it?
brand of the intake?
What intake is that
is it possible to mount this turbo on an s3 8v without doing any mapping? or with cartography without exceeding 400hp?
Yes you can bolt it on but why would you not remap the car?
Do you guys have any dyno results with the stage 1 (gt2260s) turbo? I'm keen to see not the maximum it might make, but more like the difference in spool compared to an is38?
Yeah these guys made 300kW with that turbo on this same car 👍 Check out their FB page for that info
@@fullboost Thanks!
@@fullboost at the wheels?
@@scott12at Yes, this isn't an engine
Dyno :)
Quelle est la pression max du g25-660 a 165000tr du coup sûr 2l tsi mqb
Merci
Over 2.1 bar.
I was like "Wait, what happened to the catch-can setup from the first video" then I was like oh yes completely different car :)
I hope UGP will mount one... these DI motors just coke up you wouldn't believe with the factory PCV setup.
Isn’t the ea333v3 direct and non direct fuel?
Is this on ethanol or just pump gas?
E85
Does turbo make any whistle noise?
Yes but why is that important? Today's tuner is more concerned about turbo noises than actual performance. Put a open element intakes on the stock turbo, makes all sorts of noises.
Can you target an mph with that awd system and make it fwd when it doesn't need awd to get more mph? That would be cool. Still lugging the weight but not having as much drive line loss?
The golfs already do that, they run the most efficient.
@@lyalminchinton8825 can it be tuned or does it sense when the front wheels are no longer torque limited? No wonder they are so efficient!
Hi,this car have stock engine ?
Yes
Hello!!. Before buying I would like to know if g25 660 has good spool or if it has noticeable lag ( laggy ). Compared to an stock is38.
If you want factory response go for the G2260. Great turbo.
@@fullboost thanks for your sooner reply. I want more tope end power. I just want to confirm if g25 660 has bad spool or only 500 0r 600rpm later than 2260 turbo
A G22 on 2 bar will make around 400whp.
@@fullboost what are some supporting mods to go with this turbo you mentioned and hit around that kind of power?
Current mods are the basic mods you would need for an IS38 gti, downpipe, intercooler, intake..
@@3abo0od96 I' sure just an exhaust upgrade would be good enough.
Well know what I'm doing once my Is38 shits a brick 😂
Have a 2008 Hyundai accent hatch. I'd love to turbo. 160hp is my goal.
Just rip out that.stock motor and stick in a G4FJ motor from the Veloster, i30 SR or Kia ProC'd GT and get 204hp stock and best bit, it bolts in. 👍
Buy a better car. Cheaper and better result. Don't do things to be different, just ends up cosing heaps for a sub par result.
@@sexyfacenation It's for short track rally. The car having nothing to it makes life easy and the fact it's stubby lets me swing around some crazy small corners.
@@MafiaboysWorld Wow, Great to know. thank you
@@sexyfacenation Point of doing cars up is individuality. Don't do the same cookie cutter lame project that's been done 1000 times before.
So, in the space of 1000rpm it goes from 200kw to 370kw. It’s amazing power but the reason I don’t like tuned turbo cars. Personally.
I love that torque surge :)
Id be surprised if the stock rods love it...
Our car would go from around 200kw to 600kw in around 2000rpm. Nothing beats the surge in power in a turbo car. Looking at the dyno screen this golf has a decently wide power band for a turbo car. Looks like around 3000 rpm near full power. Its not exactly light switch type response either.
what wheels are those?
Car wheels 🛞
I hate the golfs but pretty impressive car
Hating a car seems stupidly childish. There are many cars I wouldn't put my money into, but I don't hate any car.
@@einfelder8262 that’s your opinion mate not mine
R Wagon....R wagon...do it!
Sorry first fullboost video I could not finish we have a golf with 35k on it which my wife slowly drives to work, its two months out of warranty now requires clutch replacement in gear box $2686 and replacement of coolant pump $1525.
Bugger...
@@fullboost oh well back to Toyota I go with my tail between my legs.
@@tonxbezzina7015 My GTI blew two turbos, the water pump failed, the alternator broke, it had premature brake wear and brake rotor scouring. The centre console slide thing broke into 100 pieces and the battery died. So glad I got it repaired under warranty. Never going back to VW.
I think that golf would definitely benefit from a water/meth injection setup too to push more out of it! 👌
@@alistermccallum bandaids are for skin silly, not cars 🤗
They run it on some US golfs helps with intake heat a lot.
Mad !!! Keep the machine gun bullshit exhaust off it that would be sick !!! is it the same engine as the skoda wagon thing ?
YES same engine as skoda superb
were the power figures at the engine or at the wheels?
wheels
@@fullboost that's very impressive, but how long will it last on that power figure without any internal work?
it's been as high as 390kw with different combos, so far 30k on the car.
Can I say euro Barra???
Or baby gtr!
No
G25-550 is perfect for this platform 660 is too big.
Wrong but carry on. Stage 1 is a GT2260 spools like the I38 same rpm in, 38-40 hp more peak, torque 30-40 lbs more same rpm as stock.
660 is perfect, though a G30-660 would be less restrictive on the top end.
Vw hatch? Does itc come with a free boyfriend
I loathe new VWs (mainly for the owners lmao) but they're very impressive!
Bit torn.
Against :- Experienced gearbox failures, not cheap, and the brand can be a bugger to deal with.
For :- Go well, many mods available.
Would I buy another? No.
If the answer is "Golf", I don't want to know the question... 🤣
🚀🚀🚀🫡
This turbo isnt very appealing to what is already out on the market.
What would you recommend?
FEICS
Every time he said "Stage 1" or "Stage 2" we could hear your cringe
@@daniel.s8126 it's not a universal measurement, so it's next to meaningless. Manufacturers, aftermarket specialist and you or your mates with a stage 4 don't have an agreed measurement of "Stage x".
@@poyzdb I do agree with Daniel, in that, as a reference point for brand/model specific value it is useful, especially to your average non technically savvy customer.
You're right, though, it's not useful as a universal comparison tool.
@@motoxray it's simple for a customer who doesn't care for the technicality. It's useless for anyone actually interested in cars. Got it, thanks.
I think most people on here know enough about cars to see that for what it is...
@@poyzdb I agree with your first statement. It is definitely for people who don't know much about cars and only matters to those people. All actual car guys have a bit of a chuckle every time they hear that terminology cause it's meaningless
Hahaahahahahahahaahahahahhaahahhaa Gey
30 psi on e85 to make 480 whp
Close to 550 hp crank
That turbo hp claim power are way overated
If that car was tuned to pump gas it would go max to 420 whp
Also 4500 rpms to go full boost 😂😂
One more video that proves Garret G series are trash ,overrated, overpriced
I've "upset" many an Aussie V8 driver with my family Tiguan😉.
Stock ANYTHING isn't fast though, so it's not much of a benchmark...
Obviously because they didn't know you were racing.
@@madrx2 Yep... 😂
@@madrx2 Still, could be worse... At least he's not in a Tesla... 🙄 I've gotta give him SOME credit... 🙃
@@danielbrealey2924 😂😂😂 Fish are biting today!
It's all well adding power but these VW/Audi platforms are soooo boring to drive.
Spend a ton of money making it faster, get used to the power, then what?
So then what is fun to drive in your opinion?
Lotus (any), RenaultSport's (any), Mini JCW, BMW M (any, manual) 205 GTi, R5 GT Turbo, Cosworth, Giulietta QV, Yaris GR, Alfa Spider, Suzuki Swift, TVR (any) Jaguar XE 2.0T etc etc.
I’m not sure I agree, with this level of tuning on a DSG mk7 R you get 0-100 times that match some Lamborghini and Ferrari models in the last 10 years.
If you like acceleration they are quite a blast.
They also do everything else well, so work well as a very quick daily.