This was the only video I could find that actually showed how to do the wiring of the FFan. I have a ceiling light right next to my old fanless vent too so it was perfect. Hope I can easily reach the wire to pull it out like you did. Thanks.
We purchased the same RV, year and model over a year ago and it has been wonderful seeing your explanations of projects etc and your travels too. We have just retired and are heading to PA, via AZ, TX and will be posting our own travels and tips. First I want to install solar panels.
Great job, Ray. Thanks for the walk-through on the instal. We had the dealership install on of these in our bathroom vent. We love it. It really helps get the moist air out of there after showering. We also hang our towels from hooks we installed by the vent, and it drys them quickly. Our vent also, like yours in your living room, acts as a 'whole house' or 'attic' fan to cool down the interior of the RV. We want to instal one of these in our living area vent space, and instal an 'all weather' vent cover over it. All the Best, and Happy Camping!
Thanks. I plan to add another near our shower as well for reasons you stated but also I could have one fan pushing air out and the other pulling it in. Figure it would really get some nice flow in the trailer. Cheers Ray
We had the three-speed reversible Fantastic vent installed into the bathroom vent of our '14 Passport 23RB by the RV dealer where we bought the trailer. These are excellent vent fans, and work well as an "attic fan" for the RV. Your video gives me the confidence to do the next one myself, in the living room vent. I'll also be installing a vent cover over that one, so we can use the vent in rainy conditions. Thanks again, and Happy Trails!
Allen Hare Your welcome Allen. I'm really liking the fan, works great for cooking too, on the high speed it really sucks out the cooking odors and steam from boiling things. We have vent covers on all our roof vents, for the Fantastic fan I got their own cover. It was a little more money but has great air flow and is really easy to take on and off. Cheers Ray
Good video Ray, sorry to hear it was so hot, we are sitting at -12C here in Kelowna today. Point that new fan north will you and send a little heat this way!
Thanks, I used to have Vent Mate covers, actually came with the RV, here on Vancouver Island it rains a lot everyone has covers. I replaced them with Fantastic Vents, they are larger and give more air flow for the fans. amzn.to/30x7Ub2 Cheers, Ray
Ray J Thanks, I just picked one up yesterday. I was looking at putting my old Ventmate cover back on but that would take some modifications, drilling holes, etc and heard that air flow wouldn't be as good so got the Fantastic one. It looks larger and has lot bigger vent holes. Should do the trick. We spend six months of the year on the west coast of Canada so definitely need a rain cover. :)
+John Smith - I've swapped out all the lamps with low current LEDs so have lots of extra capacity on the line. The fan also only draws a max amperage of 3 amps. No chance of melting, it's also fused by the manufacturer for max current of the wire that hasn't changed. ;)
I just watched this video from 8 years ago. Did the method you used last ok, without removing the old dicor, and using a combination of eternabond tape and decor to seal the new vent fan?
I am installing a new vent fan on a new build so there wasn’t one before. So my question is what side of the vent fan outside should be facing the front of the RV? If the top cover is open, is the open side facing the back of the RV? So when driving the wind going from from to back doesn’t try to open the vent fan top (when you want it closed). Or is it the opposite. ?
All three of my vent lids have the open side facing to the rear, most do, if you look at the vent covers they slope towards the front and are high on the back www.amazon.com/dp/B007HGF398?ref=exp_loveyourrv_dp_vv_d
there are other brands than Fantastic, not much price difference. I have one and I forgot the manufacture, cost about he same as Fantastic but is remote control. I have had it several years, installed it myself, so far so good.
Ray, We are just getting started in this camping thing :) Just bought a 2008 Cougar and ran across your site. LOVE IT! So as for the fan... Would you go with the same model if you were doing it over? Just wonder if the remote would be worth it? Maybe it would make it more independent? I don't want to turn lights on and off separate. Thanks.
Teri Genteman I would recommend the remote if you aren't tall enough to reach. I can just reach it without a stool so it's not a problem for me, but I can see it getting old soon if you need a stool every time to adjust it. Happy camping! Ray
Sorry Ray. But, the most important thing you have to do with RV roof repairs is to make the best possible seal to prevent water damage. You really need to completely remove all the old sealants, clean the area, and use new dicor. Also, the gasket that you pointed out that came with the unit was NOT for the top, but is intended to slip over the inside sleeve where it meets the ceiling. Other than that, the video was ok.
Yes, I used the tape BECAUSE I'm so paranoid of leaks. Eternabond tape can go right over Dicor as long as you clean the old Dicor really well. Also, I used 4" tape so there area on both sides where the tape adheres beyond the old Dicor. In my mind, Eternabond is superior to Dicor and the constant need to remove and replace it as it dries out and cracks. My vent's been there a few years now and the seal is as good as the day I laid down. The instructions state the closed cell foam gasket is for under the flange where is meets the roof.
Should work. Any heat you can get out of the attic or moisture will help. Friend of mine added some to his trailer, not solar powered but work - www.loveyourrv.com/howto-install-an-rv-attic-roof-vent-tip/
Gordon Cindy It's the Thousand Trails park on Palm Springs. It's nice with all the date palms over head, has a good pool as well. - www.thousandtrails.com/california/palm-springs-rv-resort/
Many RV circuits use black for the positive 12 volt DC and white for the negative DC ground wire. I guess its a reference to the AC hot and neutral wires. Can get very confusing, so I find its always best to use a multimeter and check.
@@LoveYourRV I never seen it and it would be miss identifying because we all know it's different type of wiring and can easily misswire and cause a fire
My friend's older model seems to push more air than my newer model. I get much better & quieter airflow from my little Sirocco fan and it was only $!60 not over $600. Dometic agreed to replace the fan and the airflow improved a little but it is still very noisy AND the rain sensor closes the fan at really odd times like late afternoon. So we can't use the fan unless we manually open the cover. So in summary, I have found it an appallingly poor performing fan that is just not worth the money.
At some point the company was sold and bought up by a bigger one. I think Atwood or Dometic. They did away with the lifetime warranty and I guess cheapened the product. I installed this one in 2014
@@LoveYourRVYep, Dometic bought them. And according to one of the guys in tech support Dometic did not do their due diligence and have ended up with an inferior product. I don't think Dometic really cares. When I had the fan replaced the guys on site knew nothing about the fan and were referring to the manual. They had never changed one over before.
The original company provided a lifetime warranty and would ship out free repair parts if needed. They built up an excellent reputation in the RV community for their product and excellent customer service. From what I gathered around 2013 Atwood bought the little company that was Fan-Tastic Fans. Then Dometic bought Atwood at some point and rebranded Atwood stuff as Dometic.
@@LoveYourRV Ahhhhhh, very interesting. I didn't know that background. It would have been a good fan back then. It is such a shame when a new company lets a product fail apart like that, especially for such an expensive fan. It is $450 to $550 AUD here.
the reason for my question was based on the fact the old fantastic fan model#803350/3350 new number had a wall mounted thermostat with (2 orange wires) from the fans circuit board!! the 1250 model does not come with a thermostat and I basically left the (2 orange wires unconnected) I have discovered a short somewhere in the circuit and was wondering if the (2 orange wires needed to be connected somehow-even if there is no thermostat in the fantastic model 1250; I ,m trying to figure out if the (2 orange wires) should be in some way connected or if not "what do you do with the (2 orange wires) I have no clue at this point; thank,s for your timely response; say hello! to your beagle- very cute doggie!! PATRICK.P
I would just tape off the orange wires and leave them since the new 1250 model doesn't appear to me to use them. Just has a 12VDC power and 12VDC negative ground wire.
You need to consider the fact that you just added an additional current drawing device in parallel with the main line that was sent to that light. It is very possible that wire is not capable of supplying that much current and will melt causing a fire.
Because there wasn't a reason to remove it. The Dicor wasn't very old. Why remove the Dicor when it was still fine. With 4" wide Eterrnabond it will overlap it by a large margin anyway. Here is a video from 7-8 years later, with no issues. ruclips.net/video/h7LmsL4QKXY/видео.html
Wow, that sucks! Voiding a whole roof warranty because you change a roof vent. Ridiculous! Many Keystone rigs come with Fantastic Fans. Very crappy on Keystone's part. I hope they don't void your electrical warranty since you will be modifying a circuit to it to add your Vortex II fan.
I upgraded the bathroom fan to a Hengs, will have to see how it performs long term. Since I bought the single speed and it was way too powerful, I added a variable PWM speed control to make it work a little better. www.loveyourrv.com/rv-bathroom-fan-upgrade-hengs-vortex/ Cheers, Ray
You really shouldn't use eterna bond tape to seal the fan. It will never come off so if your fan leaks or breaks, you'll have a really hard time taking it off. Good luck!
If you are going to replace a skylight or vent that has been sealed with EternaBond®, and after replacing the skylight or vent are going to reseal it with EternaBond®, you can simply:Cut through the old EternaBond® tape along the edge of the old skylight or vent.Remove the screws holding it down.When you lift the old skylight or vent off, half of the EternaBond® will be on the flange of the skylight or vent, and half will still be on the roof.When you install the new skylight or vent, simply screw it down and?Put a new piece of EternaBond® over the first in the same place.OR?Second, if you have determined the EternaBond® must be removed, follow these instructions:Using a heat gun or a hair drier, heat up 2-4" of the tape on one end.Grab a corner of the tape and pull on it. The sealant should stretch like pizza cheese.As you are pulling on the tape, cut the stretched EternaBond® with a razor blade, keeping it wet with water.At this point some of the residual gray EternaBond® MicroSealant® will still be on the roof. Work it off using a strong solvent like lacquer thinner, acetone, or gasoline, and some elbow grease, or...Leave the residue in place. It will not hurt anything, and if you put new EternaBond® over the old, the new MicroSealant® will absorb the old MicroSealant®
Not too hard to get the eternabond tape off actually. It's the residue it leaves behind that is a nightmare to remove. You're better off getting a new roof. However if you need to re-install a fan you can just eternabond right over the existing eternabond tape (or eternabond residue) without issue.
I can't say I am impressed with the performance of this fan
This was the only video I could find that actually showed how to do the wiring of the FFan. I have a ceiling light right next to my old fanless vent too so it was perfect. Hope I can easily reach the wire to pull it out like you did. Thanks.
We purchased the same RV, year and model over a year ago and it has been wonderful seeing your explanations of projects etc and your travels too. We have just retired and are heading to PA, via AZ, TX and will be posting our own travels and tips. First I want to install solar panels.
Great job, Ray. Thanks for the walk-through on the instal.
We had the dealership install on of these in our bathroom vent. We love it. It really helps get the moist air out of there after showering. We also hang our towels from hooks we installed by the vent, and it drys them quickly.
Our vent also, like yours in your living room, acts as a 'whole house' or 'attic' fan to cool down the interior of the RV.
We want to instal one of these in our living area vent space, and instal an 'all weather' vent cover over it.
All the Best, and Happy Camping!
Thanks. I plan to add another near our shower as well for reasons you stated but also I could have one fan pushing air out and the other pulling it in. Figure it would really get some nice flow in the trailer. Cheers Ray
I just watched your video. You must be a teacher. Everything was so clear and concise. Thanks for sharing.
We had the three-speed reversible Fantastic vent installed into the bathroom vent of our '14 Passport 23RB by the RV dealer where we bought the trailer. These are excellent vent fans, and work well as an "attic fan" for the RV.
Your video gives me the confidence to do the next one myself, in the living room vent. I'll also be installing a vent cover over that one, so we can use the vent in rainy conditions.
Thanks again, and Happy Trails!
Allen Hare Your welcome Allen. I'm really liking the fan, works great for cooking too, on the high speed it really sucks out the cooking odors and steam from boiling things. We have vent covers on all our roof vents, for the Fantastic fan I got their own cover. It was a little more money but has great air flow and is really easy to take on and off. Cheers Ray
Love Your RV 10-4, thanks again.
You did a nice neat job Ray, my motto is of you're going to do a job, do it right.
I enjoy watching your videos, thanks.
i installed a fan too. I just had much more of a mess to fix and a ceiling that had leaked. I like watching your installation
Good video Ray, sorry to hear it was so hot, we are sitting at -12C here in Kelowna today. Point that new fan north will you and send a little heat this way!
Ray Whyte Thanks, Yipes, that's cold, I better stop complaining about the heat. :)
Great job. I hope you added a MaxxAir Vent to keep the rain out.
Thanks, I used to have Vent Mate covers, actually came with the RV, here on Vancouver Island it rains a lot everyone has covers. I replaced them with Fantastic Vents, they are larger and give more air flow for the fans. amzn.to/30x7Ub2 Cheers, Ray
@@LoveYourRV
Thanks for the info Ray. I've not seen a vent that large.
Good video, I just installed the Fantastic Fan Vent cover, it has excellent air flow. You may want to consider one, they are great when it rains.
Ray J Thanks, I just picked one up yesterday. I was looking at putting my old Ventmate cover back on but that would take some modifications, drilling holes, etc and heard that air flow wouldn't be as good so got the Fantastic one. It looks larger and has lot bigger vent holes. Should do the trick. We spend six months of the year on the west coast of Canada so definitely need a rain cover. :)
+John Smith - I've swapped out all the lamps with low current LEDs so have lots of extra capacity on the line. The fan also only draws a max amperage of 3 amps. No chance of melting, it's also fused by the manufacturer for max current of the wire that hasn't changed. ;)
I just watched this video from 8 years ago. Did the method you used last ok, without removing the old dicor, and using a combination of eternabond tape and decor to seal the new vent fan?
Yes, see this recent video - www.loveyourrv.com/rv-roof-reseal-and-refresh-alpha-systems-top-coat-lap-sealant-and-roofing-tape/
Great video
I would like to proudly say, my wife's company molds all the plastic parts for this fan , made in the USA.
Cool!
I am installing a new vent fan on a new build so there wasn’t one before. So my question is what side of the vent fan outside should be facing the front of the RV? If the top cover is open, is the open side facing the back of the RV? So when driving the wind going from from to back doesn’t try to open the vent fan top (when you want it closed). Or is it the opposite. ?
All three of my vent lids have the open side facing to the rear, most do, if you look at the vent covers they slope towards the front and are high on the back www.amazon.com/dp/B007HGF398?ref=exp_loveyourrv_dp_vv_d
Hey Ray... after 6 years did this Fantastic fan leak because you didn’t clean off the old dycor?
No leaks, the seal looks fine and since then I've done all my vents - www.loveyourrv.com/rv-roof-repair-eternabond-review/ Cheers, Ray
Thanks for the video Ray.
Great video! Thanks!!
there are other brands than Fantastic, not much price difference. I have one and I forgot the manufacture, cost about he same as Fantastic but is remote control. I have had it several years, installed it myself, so far so good.
Ray, We are just getting started in this camping thing :) Just bought a 2008 Cougar and ran across your site. LOVE IT! So as for the fan... Would you go with the same model if you were doing it over? Just wonder if the remote would be worth it? Maybe it would make it more independent? I don't want to turn lights on and off separate. Thanks.
Teri Genteman I would recommend the remote if you aren't tall enough to reach. I can just reach it without a stool so it's not a problem for me, but I can see it getting old soon if you need a stool every time to adjust it. Happy camping! Ray
Ray thanks for this video. Awesome job.
The Kelly Corner Thanks!
Sorry Ray. But, the most important thing you have to do with RV roof repairs is to make the best possible seal to prevent water damage. You really need to completely remove all the old sealants, clean the area, and use new dicor. Also, the gasket that you pointed out that came with the unit was NOT for the top, but is intended to slip over the inside sleeve where it meets the ceiling. Other than that, the video was ok.
Yes, I used the tape BECAUSE I'm so paranoid of leaks. Eternabond tape can go right over Dicor as long as you clean the old Dicor really well. Also, I used 4" tape so there area on both sides where the tape adheres beyond the old Dicor. In my mind, Eternabond is superior to Dicor and the constant need to remove and replace it as it dries out and cracks. My vent's been there a few years now and the seal is as good as the day I laid down.
The instructions state the closed cell foam gasket is for under the flange where is meets the roof.
Put a paper a/c filter in that window, spray with water and have a micro climate swamp cooler.
Charles Cain Cool idea :) Thanks!
Nice , didn't see a link to buy the #2250 fan on here? how much was it?
If I remember it was around $180 back then amzn.to/2EfTDCW
I was thinking about getting a solar attic vent for this same application. what do you think of the idea?
Should work. Any heat you can get out of the attic or moisture will help. Friend of mine added some to his trailer, not solar powered but work - www.loveyourrv.com/howto-install-an-rv-attic-roof-vent-tip/
Great job!
BTW, which RV park are you staying in? looks nice.
Gordon Cindy It's the Thousand Trails park on Palm Springs. It's nice with all the date palms over head, has a good pool as well. - www.thousandtrails.com/california/palm-springs-rv-resort/
Black is ground and colored is positive in DC power
Many RV circuits use black for the positive 12 volt DC and white for the negative DC ground wire. I guess its a reference to the AC hot and neutral wires. Can get very confusing, so I find its always best to use a multimeter and check.
@@LoveYourRV I never seen it and it would be miss identifying because we all know it's different type of wiring and can easily misswire and cause a fire
My friend's older model seems to push more air than my newer model.
I get much better & quieter airflow from my little Sirocco fan and it was only $!60 not over $600.
Dometic agreed to replace the fan and the airflow improved a little but it is still very noisy AND the rain sensor closes the fan at really odd times like late afternoon. So we can't use the fan unless we manually open the cover.
So in summary, I have found it an appallingly poor performing fan that is just not worth the money.
At some point the company was sold and bought up by a bigger one. I think Atwood or Dometic. They did away with the lifetime warranty and I guess cheapened the product. I installed this one in 2014
@@LoveYourRVYep, Dometic bought them. And according to one of the guys in tech support Dometic did not do their due diligence and have ended up with an inferior product.
I don't think Dometic really cares. When I had the fan replaced the guys on site knew nothing about the fan and were referring to the manual. They had never changed one over before.
The original company provided a lifetime warranty and would ship out free repair parts if needed. They built up an excellent reputation in the RV community for their product and excellent customer service. From what I gathered around 2013 Atwood bought the little company that was Fan-Tastic Fans. Then Dometic bought Atwood at some point and rebranded Atwood stuff as Dometic.
@@LoveYourRV Ahhhhhh, very interesting. I didn't know that background. It would have been a good fan back then. It is such a shame when a new company lets a product fail apart like that, especially for such an expensive fan. It is $450 to $550 AUD here.
WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT THE THERMOSTAT?? WIRING??? PATRICK.P
I didn't have to do anything it's all built into the fan assembly. I only needed to hook up the 12 volt positive and negative wires.
the reason for my question was based on the fact the old fantastic fan model#803350/3350 new number had a wall mounted thermostat with (2 orange wires) from the fans circuit board!! the 1250 model does not come with a thermostat and I basically left the (2 orange wires unconnected) I have discovered a short somewhere in the circuit and was wondering if the (2 orange wires needed to be connected somehow-even if there is no thermostat in the fantastic model 1250; I ,m trying to figure out if the (2 orange wires) should be in some way connected or if not "what do you do with the (2 orange wires) I have no clue at this point; thank,s for your timely response; say hello! to your beagle- very cute doggie!! PATRICK.P
I would just tape off the orange wires and leave them since the new 1250 model doesn't appear to me to use them. Just has a 12VDC power and 12VDC negative ground wire.
THANK,S RAY APPRECIATE THE ADVICE!! ONCE AGAIN SAY "HI" TO BEAGLE; PATRICK.P
You need to consider the fact that you just added an additional current drawing device in parallel with the main line that was sent to that light. It is very possible that wire is not capable of supplying that much current and will melt causing a fire.
Good grief. Why did you not remove the old dicor
Because there wasn't a reason to remove it. The Dicor wasn't very old. Why remove the Dicor when it was still fine. With 4" wide Eterrnabond it will overlap it by a large margin anyway. Here is a video from 7-8 years later, with no issues. ruclips.net/video/h7LmsL4QKXY/видео.html
Keystone says they will void my roof warranty if I install one of these. I am looking at a vortex II.
Wow, that sucks! Voiding a whole roof warranty because you change a roof vent. Ridiculous! Many Keystone rigs come with Fantastic Fans.
Very crappy on Keystone's part. I hope they don't void your electrical warranty since you will be modifying a circuit to it to add your Vortex II fan.
Get the Heng Vortex II fan. Thirty minutes and done *without* going on your roof. Oh, by the way, it cost far less than the "fantastic" fan.
I upgraded the bathroom fan to a Hengs, will have to see how it performs long term. Since I bought the single speed and it was way too powerful, I added a variable PWM speed control to make it work a little better. www.loveyourrv.com/rv-bathroom-fan-upgrade-hengs-vortex/ Cheers, Ray
You really shouldn't use eterna bond tape to seal the fan. It will never come off so if your fan leaks or breaks, you'll have a really hard time taking it off. Good luck!
If you are going to replace a skylight or vent that has been sealed with EternaBond®, and after replacing the skylight or vent are going to reseal it with EternaBond®, you can simply:Cut through the old EternaBond® tape along the edge of the old skylight or vent.Remove the screws holding it down.When you lift the old skylight or vent off, half of the EternaBond® will be on the flange of the skylight or vent, and half will still be on the roof.When you install the new skylight or vent, simply screw it down and?Put a new piece of EternaBond® over the first in the same place.OR?Second, if you have determined the EternaBond® must be removed, follow these instructions:Using a heat gun or a hair drier, heat up 2-4" of the tape on one end.Grab a corner of the tape and pull on it. The sealant should stretch like pizza cheese.As you are pulling on the tape, cut the stretched EternaBond® with a razor blade, keeping it wet with water.At this point some of the residual gray EternaBond® MicroSealant® will still be on the roof. Work it off using a strong solvent like lacquer thinner, acetone, or gasoline, and some elbow grease, or...Leave the residue in place. It will not hurt anything, and if you put new EternaBond® over the old, the new MicroSealant® will absorb the old MicroSealant®
Not too hard to get the eternabond tape off actually. It's the residue it leaves behind that is a nightmare to remove. You're better off getting a new roof. However if you need to re-install a fan you can just eternabond right over the existing eternabond tape (or eternabond residue) without issue.