I swear, with each year that goes by, my 3DS becomes the best system I've ever owned. I can emulate any handheld except the PSP/Vita, any console from the 8-bit/16-bit generations (including 32X), I can play Pico-8, I can play Virtual Boy in 3D, I can play GBA and DS through hardware and with improvement, and as an afterthought, I can also play 3DS!
It really is. You can also play DOS games! I don't really know what else I can add to your list other than the plenty of non-gaming apps you can download for QOL.
And while there's still work to do to make the 3DS as capable as the N64 itself, you can also now emulate many N64 games with Daedalus X64 1.0 and they work fairly well (excepting Zelda OOT; there's an issue with water transparency in Zora's Domain making it nearly impossible to get the silver scale). NES download play also works with many of the two-player games. This is as close to a definitive retro gaming archival platform as there is.
I had one during the console's main lifespan but didn't have any money to play games - and CFW was in its infancy. So I shelved it for years til like 2017 and have loved it since. I genuinely think it's Nintendo's best console to this day
The year is 2034, after 10 years of nonstop work modders have figured out a way for the 3DS to play DS games in 3D. A total of five very happy people use this new capability
I was actually thinking the same thing, but I think if the 3DS could actually do stereoscopic 3D in original DS games it would be kind of awesome! I mean, you could also take actual 3DS games that never got 3D support and put that back in on the New 3DS XL utilising the higher power.
The modding community for the Wii U and 3DS community is insane. Legit wizards and I’m excited to try all these recent new stuff out. Thanks for the heads up, Jon!
It's worth mentioning the DS offered an innovative wrist strap that also functioned as a thumbpad to use for analog control on the touch screen. My first play through of Mario 64 was using this method. It worked so well that I used it for any game that offered it. In fact, I called and ordered a spare from Nintendo after my puppy at the time chewed the original.
@@cashnelson2306 Don't let the simplistic form fool you. It was well engineered for less friction. Nintendo brought consumers analog touchscreen input before any smartphone ever did.
@@oakley2001Every single touchscreen that lets you move your finger or stylus across the screen has analog movement, even those old Palm PDAs that predated the DS by several years. Honestly, I found that wrist strap too cumbersome, I used it a few times on Super Mario 64 DS at launch and never again. As mediocre as D-pad control was, I still preferred it over that wrist strap thing. Still, glad you enjoyed it and got some use out of it!
@@Wheelman2004 Wow, every single touchscreen. That's amazing. I never knew Palm PDA was so well known for 3D gaming. The enlightenment I get from reading the comment section impresses me everyday.
By the way, people. It appears that a few months ago, at long last, Golden Sun Dark Dawn was finally made playable through Twilight Menu++. The DS compatibility is now, for all intents and purposes, complete. Absolute wizardry
@@Dinosaursofyes it does, i tested it through a vc inject and through open agb firm and it runs perfect, but i only tested the beginning so don't know if it plays all the way through fine, but i don't see why not. Also if you do the vc inject make sure to use the all in one vc injector cause it automatically patches the save type, i had all kinds of problems when using the individual one's for vc injects cause it makes you manually patch the save type, and i was finding the game not saving, open agb firm just saved fine no patching needed.
Late but GBA vc isn't emulation, it's straight up just uses the DS parts for backwards compatibility. I recommend open_agb_firm if you want to just load the games off your sd card and have easy access to your saves.@@Dinosaursof
Lmao fr man I have a modded Wii,GameCube,Xbox and so on but I played my switch more I recently added more stuff to my and I’ll be using a hard-drive so all fit in one little package but definitely man lol i barely play the games sometimes
When I actually start playing games I realize they're very repetitive, easy, and thus boring. Modding is stimulating and it's something new at every turn
For StarFox Command, you can change the control type in the in game settings to Type B and that will invert your Y axis without having to apply a different version of the cheat.
I love the 3DS scene in general. It's genuinely so amazing that a family of systems from the 2000's-2010's can play millions of games across almost every game generation, and you don't even have to know how to code to get all this CFW on it. It's not just the basic homebrew either; there's QR code download sites, lost media still being found, ROM hacks and even new games entirely, even 3D print downloads to make custom cartridge holders, stands/cases, and styluses. I still use my New 3DS XL to this day and play all sorts of games on it. I just hope the hacking scene makes the system popular enough for me to get StreetPass regularly again(though I have spotted it happening on a few recent instances). A global StreetPass thing would be awesome, especially.
@@seer6961I opted for a n2DS at first because it was cheaper, but then found out that I love that damn invincible brick. The form factor is so nice for my large hands
I can almost do everything. I'm unfortunately still stuck with my old battered year of luigi 3DS XL, because new nintendo 3DS systems are simply too expensive now. I could get Steam Deck Oled for a little bit more than a lot of the offers I see online. I don't know if the investment is worth doing a couple things on my homebrew and new 3ds exclusive games bucket list, especially since my 3DS XL still works perfectly fine despite it's age and trauma. I still got my og Blue 3DS too but the battery won't hold a charge and has to be plugged in.
I'm glad you did a video on this! Super Mario 64 DS is SO much better with analog control, and I'm so glad you explained how to use the pixel perfect mode as well because that looks so much better! I'm also ecstatic you brought up Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks with these mods. It genuinely feels amazing to play!
Didn't know you could get gyro aim with Prime Hunters, that's amazing. 0:58 TWL Menu isn't the loader. It's a GUI for starting games via nds-bootstrap, which is the actual loader. 1:08 TWPatcher doesn't patch TWL Menu, but TWL_FIRM. The thing responsible for DSi mode on 3DS.
Does that mean that you can load the games through the home screen like normal then? I'd much rather just be able to jump right into the game than open a second menu. Not sure how the cheats would be enabled though I guess
@@jFar920 I stopped using my 3DS for DS games, but on DSi that's possible. I also didn't like having to open another menu and just installed forwarders directly to my home menu. To change settings and enable cheats, you have to hold a button while launching a game. Maybe there's also something for 3DS, that generates CIAs for you games. Search for "nds-bootstrap forwarders" and you might find something.
@@jFar920 Did you see my answer? It seems to have gotten deleted... If you didn't: On DSi, you definitely can, so 3DS is probably also possible. You can change settings by holding a button while starting the game.
The coolest part is that most of these are cheat codes instead of romhacks. I am SO excited to give spirit tracks another go with a c-stick, and adding gyro to metroid prime hunters blew me away. Insane!
@eqprog a TON of people fail to mention that when bringing up this game. Man, what I wouldn't give to be 15 again and playing my DS for the first time.
The amount of wizardly required to allow the input hardware to communicate with a game running in DS mode was nothing short of impressive. Sono and RocketRobz really deserve a lot of praise as well. With a community like this, the 3DS will surely have a lot of years to come. It might be the last handheld you'll ever need! Or perhaps, the last true handheld system...
Disagree on the scaling filters. The reason the 3DS uses a "smooth" filter for DS games is because you can't "pixel perfect" upscale 192p to 240p, nearest neighbor scaling just doubles random lines and distorts the image, it's evident in your own example at 1:26, just look at the mugs on the table, or the stools nearby. In comparison, the Vita was exactly double the resolution of PSP,, i.e. 544p vs 272p, so the backwards compatibility mode could simply double everything resulting in a sharp image with no distortion.
Same I just got 70+ games from nes to Zelda on 3ds all of the US library of GBA games like this thing is worth so much bc I put so much damn time into it now 💀💀💀
I feel you!!! 😂😂 I finally decided to start playing it. But it was a great self training though. I had a hard time doing a Japanese new 3ds. So after that was done- I treat it better than my car lol
I used the little plastic thingy that came with the original NDS strap, it attached to the base of your thumb, you pressed that in the touchscreen, and voilá, analog in the DS. As a side effect, a lot of gaming hours later I had to change the touch digitizer.
YES! so happy to see more people spreading the word about this amazing way to play DS games, and thank you so much for telling everyone how to do it themselves! I tried doing it myself and it ended up being a nightmare because none of the guides worked, I really hope people are able to follow your guide well! Thank you!
@@ihaveagoddamnplanarthur it's very good if you have at least a friend to play it locally. Which requires two 3DS and 2 copies of the game and a bit of annoying menuing. The gameplay is very similar to Metroid Prime, but it's not a map to explore like traditional Metroid games, here it's missions based coop. It's a very fun coop experience and a great way to introduce new players to Metroid. However it's really not representative of what 3D metroid games are. Play Metroid Prime 1 on the switch or GameCube for that. But if you have someone to experience Fed Force it's really a blast. The bad reputation that it has is due to the time it was revealed. E3 2015, the last Metroid game at the time was Metroid other M in 2010 that was already disappointing for the fans. So the last acclaimed Metroid game was 2007 Metroid prime 3. So people were really waiting for a new Metroid game at this point and they released a chibi aesthetic coop game on the 3DS with no mention of a mainline game at all. No one wanted this and they were furious, the reveal trailer got the most dislike to like ratio in the history of RUclips at the time. (Very impressive) If they were to reveal a teaser for Samus return while presenting this game I think the game would have done better. It's just unfortunate,but the people that played it usually like it
@antonshotpoteita yes but also no. It just came at a time where metroid wasn't getting any love and instead of a real metroid prime game they got a co-op multiplayer where you don't play as samus.
@@ihaveagoddamnplanarthur It's awesome in local coop. Not worth it at all solo. Play Metroid Prime if you want to discover 3D metroid but fed force is an awesome little coop game.
I know a lot of people who like just having eight directions on the circlepad. Like most control sticks, it's not exactly easy to not push it all the way, so having it with a run button you can turn off and on is often enough. Plus, I mean, the game was completely redesigned with its camera angles and such to make it where everything lined up on the 8 angles.
6:15 i have absolutely no idea why flying games just feel so nice and natural to be played with the Y axis inverted, like even if it's your first time ever playing a flying game you'll just blend into the controls naturally and smoothly
I seem to get a hanging white screen on both Kingdom Hearts 358/2, and on Phantom Hourglass when I try and launch either with the circle pad cheat enabled. Any ideas?
For me the D-pad mod on phantom hourglass removes the c-pad cheat option. Only the vanilla game will have it show up. How did you get both working at once?
I have to imagine that these people are referring to the library of the console rather than what the console itself can do and play. I can see someone preferring the DS library over the 3DS one, but the latter is objectively a better machine.
Not sure if y'all had this problem but when running the circle pad patch on Metroid Prime: Hunters, make sure it's running in DSi mode, not DS mode otherwise you'll get a white screen.
Small update. After trying to do this I noticed that some games now forever stuck on white screen if I'm using forwarder, after some troubleshooting I realised that it happens if I leave Circle Pad cheats on, removing them let me get into the games from main screen again, but sadly without 16:10 aspect ratio, for this I have to go through Twilight Menu every time.
I was able to apply the dpatch to the Zelda Phantom Hourglass rom but now i am unable to apply the cstick cheat. Twilight Menu says there are no cheats detected. Anyone else have this issue?
So glad I found this video. I tried playing Mario 64 DS for the first time since it launched when I was a kid. Loved it. And the analog controls and camera mod worked beautifully. I prefer this version to the original N64 version lol.
Had this video saved for a Sunday afternoon when my kids went to sleep at the same time and I could have a couple hours to focus on doing this. I just did and it works perfectly, thank you very much!
I'm trying to get the Zelda D-pad patched games to work with the C-pad cheat code, but when I select the D-Pad patched games (ie Phantom Hourglass) it says "No cheats found". It works on the base games, but it doesn't work for the D-Pad patched versions for me. Was anyone able to get this working with D-pad controls and the C-pad cheat for both Zelda DS games?
7:41 Unbeatable [white label] (and its parent game which isn't out yet, just called Unbeatable) fits this perfectly and its so damn beautiful. Plus the songs are all bangers.
Amazing stuff! Can't wait to try this out along with the Virtual Boy emulator. (btw regarding the closing music, I just got an arrangement of that posted on OC ReMix!)
Badass video!! Thank you for making it. Can’t wait to try this out on my favorite games. I’m so glad there’s so many people wayyy smarter than me working on 3DS projects and then all we have to do is download, install & enjoy 😂
The circle pad is always one of those things where I wonder why it didn't happen sooner, imagine a DS launch with a circle pad! Very glad DS titles can finally get some of the control they deserve. 3DS is the best hand held console ever released and it's all because of it's community.
Prime Hunters was always a comfy control scheme. Back in Yee Old Days of the original NDS there was a thumb stylus that came with every console. It was attached to the strap that came with it. the strap for the console worked like a little belt on the thumb stylus, fitting the stylus firm to your thumb. your thumb was supposed to turn your touch screen into an analog stick. The gyroscopic aiming is cool as hell though.
Cant wait for Dual Stick/Gyro controls Kid Icarus Uprising. Its one of those games that are defined entirely by the system they came out for, but I just know Ill 101% again on Citra or whatever the mod works on.
This is just magic. The concept of widescreen DS games looks so good! Seeing Mario 64 DS with widescreen and analog controls was cool even if I never played it or the original. And I legit forgot about 358/2 Days despite it being my first DS game. I absolutely loved it and it being my first Kingdom Hearts game, I had no reason to dislike the controls. But that full analog movement looks like magic and I love it. It looks like a whole different game, but also just how I remember it And then Metroid Prime Hunters... Another one I haven't played, but I've heard people talk down about it. Full analog AND Gyro is insane for a DS game. I'm so curious to try this out.
I finally found the time to set this up on my 3DS, and it works beautifully. It kind of blows my mind playing Super Mario 64 DS with full analog control, and not only movement but camera control at the same time! And Starfox Command is so much more playable now - I mean, I played the hell out of it back when it first came out, but this is a fine excuse to do it again.
I always played Mario 64 DS with the touch screen using the little thumb pad thingy that was built into the wrist strap for the DS. That said, my biggest issue playing that way was the 'virtual analog stick' would move location which made things harder then they needed to be.
Oh my goodness, I've been wanting to replay Mario 64 DS for years now but everytime I booted my copy I never got all that far cuz nostalgia wasnt enough for me to bear the horrible controls but this is a game changer. Just finished setting everything up and just running around peaches castle WOW, this might be a hot take but dare I say? This might be the best way to play Mario 64 (including the N64 version)
You can also map the run button in SM64 DS to the dpad on the regular ds too. It plays way better with dive/punch on Y and no need to hold down a run button.
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I swear, with each year that goes by, my 3DS becomes the best system I've ever owned. I can emulate any handheld except the PSP/Vita, any console from the 8-bit/16-bit generations (including 32X), I can play Pico-8, I can play Virtual Boy in 3D, I can play GBA and DS through hardware and with improvement, and as an afterthought, I can also play 3DS!
It really is. You can also play DOS games! I don't really know what else I can add to your list other than the plenty of non-gaming apps you can download for QOL.
And while there's still work to do to make the 3DS as capable as the N64 itself, you can also now emulate many N64 games with Daedalus X64 1.0 and they work fairly well (excepting Zelda OOT; there's an issue with water transparency in Zora's Domain making it nearly impossible to get the silver scale).
NES download play also works with many of the two-player games. This is as close to a definitive retro gaming archival platform as there is.
I had one during the console's main lifespan but didn't have any money to play games - and CFW was in its infancy. So I shelved it for years til like 2017 and have loved it since. I genuinely think it's Nintendo's best console to this day
You can also emulate ps1 games if you know what you’re doing. It's awesome
@@elyjahkidnotagreed
The year is 2034, after 10 years of nonstop work modders have figured out a way for the 3DS to play DS games in 3D. A total of five very happy people use this new capability
I was actually thinking the same thing, but I think if the 3DS could actually do stereoscopic 3D in original DS games it would be kind of awesome! I mean, you could also take actual 3DS games that never got 3D support and put that back in on the New 3DS XL utilising the higher power.
@@OnlyEpicEmberI still hope someone can hack Minecraft on new 3DS to support it
maybe someone can reverse engineer those M2 ports of sega classics that they converted to 3D
I am one of these five people.
@@ianswift3521 Unfortunately I seem to remember those being ports to 3DS hardware, not emulation or based on a standard DS game or anything like that.
Gyro aiming for Metroid Prime Hunters is just brilliant, what a way to give new life to an underrated game.
Fs. Would be great if it actually worked
@@codydfwn 😂 I can't even activate the gyro mode
@@rpizzaspaghetti2718 odd, works for me the way he described in the video.
The modding community for the Wii U and 3DS community is insane. Legit wizards and I’m excited to try all these recent new stuff out. Thanks for the heads up, Jon!
I would have sold both of those consoles if not for all that cool stuff you can do.
@@seanmcbay Never sell your consoles bro, they're a part of your gaming history. You'd regret it, and I know from experience.
Lets just hope that one day 3DS pokemon rom hacks become as detailed as the GBA ones
@@realthemariogamerexactly bro
@@MarcIsOldies12 Like man, it's so hard to find old consoles at a good price sometimes. I wish I still had a PS3.
"We are going to remaster you next" The most mischievous quote yet.
Chaotic Good energy
"What does that even mean?" - Lisa Simpson
Remaster me, daddy
"You know what? Fuck you, I'm remastering your dog."
It's worth mentioning the DS offered an innovative wrist strap that also functioned as a thumbpad to use for analog control on the touch screen. My first play through of Mario 64 was using this method. It worked so well that I used it for any game that offered it. In fact, I called and ordered a spare from Nintendo after my puppy at the time chewed the original.
Mine is still around somewhere, I remember using it far more often than the dpad in 64DS and Rayman DS
“innovative” lmao sir it was a cloth strap with a piece of plastic attached
@@cashnelson2306 Don't let the simplistic form fool you. It was well engineered for less friction. Nintendo brought consumers analog touchscreen input before any smartphone ever did.
@@oakley2001Every single touchscreen that lets you move your finger or stylus across the screen has analog movement, even those old Palm PDAs that predated the DS by several years. Honestly, I found that wrist strap too cumbersome, I used it a few times on Super Mario 64 DS at launch and never again. As mediocre as D-pad control was, I still preferred it over that wrist strap thing. Still, glad you enjoyed it and got some use out of it!
@@Wheelman2004 Wow, every single touchscreen. That's amazing. I never knew Palm PDA was so well known for 3D gaming. The enlightenment I get from reading the comment section impresses me everyday.
I was so hyped when I saw the thread for analog in 64DS pop up on GBATemp
One of the coolest things 3DS has gotten in recent years imo
If only they could get it working for DesM and MelonDS. :)
The Mario 64 3DS port is one of the best games I've ever played
The 3DS Community grows stronger, love to see it!
I love it too.
By the way, people. It appears that a few months ago, at long last, Golden Sun Dark Dawn was finally made playable through Twilight Menu++. The DS compatibility is now, for all intents and purposes, complete. Absolute wizardry
Have you tried injecting one of the gba virtual console games with the original golden sun? Do you know if it runs ok?
@@Dinosaursofyes it does, i tested it through a vc inject and through open agb firm and it runs perfect, but i only tested the beginning so don't know if it plays all the way through fine, but i don't see why not.
Also if you do the vc inject make sure to use the all in one vc injector cause it automatically patches the save type, i had all kinds of problems when using the individual one's for vc injects cause it makes you manually patch the save type, and i was finding the game not saving, open agb firm just saved fine no patching needed.
@@kila5055 awesome! Thanks a million!
Late but GBA vc isn't emulation, it's straight up just uses the DS parts for backwards compatibility. I recommend open_agb_firm if you want to just load the games off your sd card and have easy access to your saves.@@Dinosaursof
What was the issue with Dark Dawn?
Time I spend modding my 3DS > Time I spend actually playing games
I had a friend mod mine for me :)
Lmao fr man I have a modded Wii,GameCube,Xbox and so on but I played my switch more I recently added more stuff to my and I’ll be using a hard-drive so all fit in one little package but definitely man lol i barely play the games sometimes
When I actually start playing games I realize they're very repetitive, easy, and thus boring. Modding is stimulating and it's something new at every turn
Depends, stuff like ace attorney is fun@@akpokemon
@@akpokemon Oh sure play SMT IV on the 3ds it will be very easy lol
For StarFox Command, you can change the control type in the in game settings to Type B and that will invert your Y axis without having to apply a different version of the cheat.
Your latest videos have been extremely cool, and really helped to spice up my own 3ds. Keep up the good work!
I love the 3DS scene in general. It's genuinely so amazing that a family of systems from the 2000's-2010's can play millions of games across almost every game generation, and you don't even have to know how to code to get all this CFW on it. It's not just the basic homebrew either; there's QR code download sites, lost media still being found, ROM hacks and even new games entirely, even 3D print downloads to make custom cartridge holders, stands/cases, and styluses. I still use my New 3DS XL to this day and play all sorts of games on it.
I just hope the hacking scene makes the system popular enough for me to get StreetPass regularly again(though I have spotted it happening on a few recent instances). A global StreetPass thing would be awesome, especially.
I hope the sustained high n3DS prices are a sign more people are out there playing them.
@@seer6961I opted for a n2DS at first because it was cheaper, but then found out that I love that damn invincible brick. The form factor is so nice for my large hands
I can almost do everything. I'm unfortunately still stuck with my old battered year of luigi 3DS XL, because new nintendo 3DS systems are simply too expensive now. I could get Steam Deck Oled for a little bit more than a lot of the offers I see online. I don't know if the investment is worth doing a couple things on my homebrew and new 3ds exclusive games bucket list, especially since my 3DS XL still works perfectly fine despite it's age and trauma. I still got my og Blue 3DS too but the battery won't hold a charge and has to be plugged in.
9:36 I believe you can change the main screen in Twilight menu by pressing L + Down + Select. Thus you could in theory play on the topscreen.
Correct, you can select which screen is the "main" screen. I've used this to play Tetris DS with the Tetris game on the top screen.
9:20
Logged nearly 1,000 hrs into Prime Hunters multiplayer back in the day-that mod is so sick.
Man I wish I could have been there! I was just barely in time for kid icarus light vs dark
I'm glad you did a video on this! Super Mario 64 DS is SO much better with analog control, and I'm so glad you explained how to use the pixel perfect mode as well because that looks so much better! I'm also ecstatic you brought up Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks with these mods. It genuinely feels amazing to play!
Someone made an analog support update for Mario 64 DS on Wii U as well. It’s pretty neat, been really enjoying modded DS stuff on Wii U
Didn't know you could get gyro aim with Prime Hunters, that's amazing.
0:58 TWL Menu isn't the loader. It's a GUI for starting games via nds-bootstrap, which is the actual loader.
1:08 TWPatcher doesn't patch TWL Menu, but TWL_FIRM. The thing responsible for DSi mode on 3DS.
Does that mean that you can load the games through the home screen like normal then? I'd much rather just be able to jump right into the game than open a second menu. Not sure how the cheats would be enabled though I guess
@@jFar920 I stopped using my 3DS for DS games, but on DSi that's possible. I also didn't like having to open another menu and just installed forwarders directly to my home menu. To change settings and enable cheats, you have to hold a button while launching a game.
Maybe there's also something for 3DS, that generates CIAs for you games. Search for "nds-bootstrap forwarders" and you might find something.
@@jFar920 Did you see my answer? It seems to have gotten deleted...
If you didn't: On DSi, you definitely can, so 3DS is probably also possible. You can change settings by holding a button while starting the game.
@@seseiSeki Nope, don’t see the original reply, didn’t get a notification until this one. I’ll look into it though, thank you
@@jFar920 Odd... But this one worked, so good luck :D
Oh, I forgot to mention that these shortcuts are called forwarders.
Flower Sun and Rain getting an analog movement mod is so funny considering it's pretty much just a walking sim lol
The coolest part is that most of these are cheat codes instead of romhacks. I am SO excited to give spirit tracks another go with a c-stick, and adding gyro to metroid prime hunters blew me away. Insane!
yeah, it means that rom hacks of those games will be even better !
tho I still wish for proper ports to the 3ds
Every video you make answers some of my most niche burning questions i have about systems ive barely touched in years and I'm living for it
I'm looking forward to trying "Nintendo Super Mario 64 DS 3DS"
11:37 YO WHAT? Now thats what I call innovation! Incredible work!
Everyone forgets Mario 64 DS came with the thumb strap thing for analog control. It worked great IMO
It did work great, but it also scratched my screen up
Mine never came with that strap.
@@yordansic I think you are actually right on this. The original DS hardware itself did, I think. Not sure about revisions.
@eqprog a TON of people fail to mention that when bringing up this game.
Man, what I wouldn't give to be 15 again and playing my DS for the first time.
The thumb strap destroyed my screen. I wouldn't recommend using it.
When I first did this and played games in widescreen with analog…..it was as if playing the games for the first time or remastered. Worth it.
I love modding misadventures with Jon. One of the best RUclips shows imo.
Wow the Virtual Boy video and this has finally convinced me to mod my 3DS, thank you so much for showcasing these fantastic mods
Huh? Virtual boy? 😮
Another great useful video. I was aware of these but didn't know how far they've come now.
You're making me get a New 3DS XL with every new video you put out, Jon.
Once again the community does what Nintendon’t. Hats off to the clever folks who put all the work into making these mods.
The amount of wizardly required to allow the input hardware to communicate with a game running in DS mode was nothing short of impressive. Sono and RocketRobz really deserve a lot of praise as well.
With a community like this, the 3DS will surely have a lot of years to come. It might be the last handheld you'll ever need! Or perhaps, the last true handheld system...
John's gonna remaster us all.
*Run for your lives*
(Carpenter Brut music)
Disagree on the scaling filters. The reason the 3DS uses a "smooth" filter for DS games is because you can't "pixel perfect" upscale 192p to 240p, nearest neighbor scaling just doubles random lines and distorts the image, it's evident in your own example at 1:26, just look at the mugs on the table, or the stools nearby. In comparison, the Vita was exactly double the resolution of PSP,, i.e. 544p vs 272p, so the backwards compatibility mode could simply double everything resulting in a sharp image with no distortion.
yeah, that's the reason why my DSi XL still gets a ton of use, I never really play DS games on my 3ds
This video was really helpful! Now I can play Wild World and Dragon Quest 9 comfortably on my 3ds!!
don't forget that the 3DS has a H shop which is basically a fanmade version of the Eshop
Totally agree with your hot take- I spent a lot of time in January visiting my original white DS lite, and it’s still just so clean and so pleasing
At this point I've spend more time modding my 3ds than actually playing it.
Same I just got 70+ games from nes to Zelda on 3ds all of the US library of GBA games like this thing is worth so much bc I put so much damn time into it now 💀💀💀
I feel you!!! 😂😂
I finally decided to start playing it. But it was a great self training though. I had a hard time doing a Japanese new 3ds. So after that was done- I treat it better than my car lol
I used the little plastic thingy that came with the original NDS strap, it attached to the base of your thumb, you pressed that in the touchscreen, and voilá, analog in the DS.
As a side effect, a lot of gaming hours later I had to change the touch digitizer.
There's a reason that Jon sounds like God
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The most joyous god of all!
God Voice Gaming
I want john to manifest destiny my backside
Jon's voice is like somebody is pouring a cocktail of melted butter and honey into my ears. It's the kind of voice that can turn a straight man gay.
YES! so happy to see more people spreading the word about this amazing way to play DS games, and thank you so much for telling everyone how to do it themselves!
I tried doing it myself and it ended up being a nightmare because none of the guides worked, I really hope people are able to follow your guide well!
Thank you!
i see that metroid prime federation force is installed on your console
o7 you're the real mvp
It is worth playing ? People say it's bad but I'm new to Metroid (playing samus return rn) and would like to play full 3D games.
@@ihaveagoddamnplanarthur it's very good if you have at least a friend to play it locally.
Which requires two 3DS and 2 copies of the game and a bit of annoying menuing.
The gameplay is very similar to Metroid Prime, but it's not a map to explore like traditional Metroid games, here it's missions based coop.
It's a very fun coop experience and a great way to introduce new players to Metroid.
However it's really not representative of what 3D metroid games are.
Play Metroid Prime 1 on the switch or GameCube for that.
But if you have someone to experience Fed Force it's really a blast.
The bad reputation that it has is due to the time it was revealed.
E3 2015, the last Metroid game at the time was Metroid other M in 2010 that was already disappointing for the fans.
So the last acclaimed Metroid game was 2007 Metroid prime 3.
So people were really waiting for a new Metroid game at this point and they released a chibi aesthetic coop game on the 3DS with no mention of a mainline game at all.
No one wanted this and they were furious, the reveal trailer got the most dislike to like ratio in the history of RUclips at the time. (Very impressive)
If they were to reveal a teaser for Samus return while presenting this game I think the game would have done better.
It's just unfortunate,but the people that played it usually like it
@antonshotpoteita yes but also no. It just came at a time where metroid wasn't getting any love and instead of a real metroid prime game they got a co-op multiplayer where you don't play as samus.
@@ultraprincesskenny6790 Precisely
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It's awesome in local coop.
Not worth it at all solo.
Play Metroid Prime if you want to discover 3D metroid but fed force is an awesome little coop game.
this is how i find out Jon has his own youtube channel now. Hell yeah
Nice Phantom Hourglass music 😍
This NEEDS to be heard, imagine if Modern DS Emulators like melonDS could have these features as well!
These recent videos have all been bangers keep it up Jon
I know a lot of people who like just having eight directions on the circlepad. Like most control sticks, it's not exactly easy to not push it all the way, so having it with a run button you can turn off and on is often enough.
Plus, I mean, the game was completely redesigned with its camera angles and such to make it where everything lined up on the 8 angles.
Now we need this for Kid Icarus
YES PLS. I love that game but dammit it's a wrist killer
I think there already are one for that?
i really enjoy to see all of those videos on 3ds homebrew
9:52 my skin crawled when I saw this
6:15 i have absolutely no idea why flying games just feel so nice and natural to be played with the Y axis inverted, like even if it's your first time ever playing a flying game you'll just blend into the controls naturally and smoothly
I seem to get a hanging white screen on both Kingdom Hearts 358/2, and on Phantom Hourglass when I try and launch either with the circle pad cheat enabled. Any ideas?
YES! Thank you for the tutorial. Could only get one or two of the patches working at a time, this will be very helpful.
For me the D-pad mod on phantom hourglass removes the c-pad cheat option. Only the vanilla game will have it show up. How did you get both working at once?
did you get it to work
Amazing.
Also, UP is always UP.
Lastly, DOWN is always DOWN.
Excellent video on the best handheld system ever!! 😎🙌
The widescreen doesn't show up in twilightmenu I don't get what I'm doing wrong
Hi, if you're still having this problem. I forgot to do the step at 2:20 so I went back and did it and it works
You just convinced me to play metroid prime hunters on my 2ds. You achieved your goal. Congrats.
How do you get the d-pad and circle pad with phantom hourglass the code is not showing up for me?
did you find out how
Every new GVG video gets me that much closer to clicking “buy” on a 3DS XL. :)
I will never understand people that prefer the DS over the 3DS. It has to be nostalgia at this point.
I have to imagine that these people are referring to the library of the console rather than what the console itself can do and play. I can see someone preferring the DS library over the 3DS one, but the latter is objectively a better machine.
Not sure if y'all had this problem but when running the circle pad patch on Metroid Prime: Hunters, make sure it's running in DSi mode, not DS mode otherwise you'll get a white screen.
were you able to make the gyro work? every time i push the button combo either nothing happens, or the camera will just start going in one direction
Is it still possible to do if you're using bootstraper like YANBF? I like having my DS games on the main screen without needing to go to Twilight.
Small update. After trying to do this I noticed that some games now forever stuck on white screen if I'm using forwarder, after some troubleshooting I realised that it happens if I leave Circle Pad cheats on, removing them let me get into the games from main screen again, but sadly without 16:10 aspect ratio, for this I have to go through Twilight Menu every time.
These 3DS videos are so impressive because of all the new possibilities with this device.
I was able to apply the dpatch to the Zelda Phantom Hourglass rom but now i am unable to apply the cstick cheat. Twilight Menu says there are no cheats detected. Anyone else have this issue?
Currently having this issue as well. I wish I could give a solution :(
So glad I found this video. I tried playing Mario 64 DS for the first time since it launched when I was a kid. Loved it. And the analog controls and camera mod worked beautifully. I prefer this version to the original N64 version lol.
Tried this and 3DS screens quality for DS games is garbage :(
Had this video saved for a Sunday afternoon when my kids went to sleep at the same time and I could have a couple hours to focus on doing this. I just did and it works perfectly, thank you very much!
I'm trying to get the Zelda D-pad patched games to work with the C-pad cheat code, but when I select the D-Pad patched games (ie Phantom Hourglass) it says "No cheats found". It works on the base games, but it doesn't work for the D-Pad patched versions for me. Was anyone able to get this working with D-pad controls and the C-pad cheat for both Zelda DS games?
did you ever get it to work
7:41 Unbeatable [white label] (and its parent game which isn't out yet, just called Unbeatable) fits this perfectly and its so damn beautiful. Plus the songs are all bangers.
Oh man, the gyro bit at the end was such a pleasant surprise. I feel bad for anyone that didn't watch until the end.
So glad that you’re covering the RTCOM patches
Learning that I can play Days with full analog movement and camera control made my night
Amazing stuff! Can't wait to try this out along with the Virtual Boy emulator. (btw regarding the closing music, I just got an arrangement of that posted on OC ReMix!)
Holy hell, this just gave me so much motivation to pick up my 3ds again and play games I didn't before!
Badass video!! Thank you for making it. Can’t wait to try this out on my favorite games. I’m so glad there’s so many people wayyy smarter than me working on 3DS projects and then all we have to do is download, install & enjoy 😂
I legit didn't know about changing the resolution scaling for DS games. Gamechanger
The circle pad is always one of those things where I wonder why it didn't happen sooner, imagine a DS launch with a circle pad! Very glad DS titles can finally get some of the control they deserve. 3DS is the best hand held console ever released and it's all because of it's community.
Prime Hunters was always a comfy control scheme.
Back in Yee Old Days of the original NDS there was a thumb stylus that came with every console. It was attached to the strap that came with it. the strap for the console worked like a little belt on the thumb stylus, fitting the stylus firm to your thumb. your thumb was supposed to turn your touch screen into an analog stick.
The gyroscopic aiming is cool as hell though.
Amazing, had no clue this was even a thing. DSi XL will still be my favourite way to play DS games due to the screen but this is awesome
I wish we lived in the timeline where Nintendo continued the DS line, but I'm happy the community keeps making the 3DS better and better
These are some game changers, no idea who you are, but RUclips somehow knew I'd love your content! You get a sub
Man thanks so much, these mods are so good every ds gane looks sooooo goood now
Cant wait for Dual Stick/Gyro controls Kid Icarus Uprising. Its one of those games that are defined entirely by the system they came out for, but I just know Ill 101% again on Citra or whatever the mod works on.
This is how I've been playing through Super Mario 64 DS and I've been having a blast :3
This DEMANDED a video for so long, glad you made more people aware of it!
There's also a 3DS port for Mario 64 DS so you can also play it in full 3D!
what. You mean Mario 64 port. Not 64 DS
Hope some of this stuff can be built in when we eventually get DS NSO - would be a perfect work around for some of the touch screen-centric games!
This is just magic. The concept of widescreen DS games looks so good! Seeing Mario 64 DS with widescreen and analog controls was cool even if I never played it or the original. And I legit forgot about 358/2 Days despite it being my first DS game. I absolutely loved it and it being my first Kingdom Hearts game, I had no reason to dislike the controls. But that full analog movement looks like magic and I love it. It looks like a whole different game, but also just how I remember it
And then Metroid Prime Hunters... Another one I haven't played, but I've heard people talk down about it. Full analog AND Gyro is insane for a DS game. I'm so curious to try this out.
seeing gyro aiming in metroid prime hunter was mindblowing.
Damn, I tried this out a while ago but never realized how cool it could be for 3d games. nice stuff!
Just upgraded to a n3ds xl from my base 3ds and these mod videos have been awesome
You make the best homebrew 3ds videos ever, thank you!
I finally found the time to set this up on my 3DS, and it works beautifully. It kind of blows my mind playing Super Mario 64 DS with full analog control, and not only movement but camera control at the same time! And Starfox Command is so much more playable now - I mean, I played the hell out of it back when it first came out, but this is a fine excuse to do it again.
this is very impressive and makes me curious how some of my favorite games would look with the widescreen mod
I always played Mario 64 DS with the touch screen using the little thumb pad thingy that was built into the wrist strap for the DS. That said, my biggest issue playing that way was the 'virtual analog stick' would move location which made things harder then they needed to be.
I just looked this up 20 minutes ago... scary that it just popped up in now... glad to have this video though.
This video alone is worth subbing to this channel. THANK YOU JON!
I absolutely love the content of this channel! It's a joy whenever there's a new upload!
Oh my goodness, I've been wanting to replay Mario 64 DS for years now but everytime I booted my copy I never got all that far cuz nostalgia wasnt enough for me to bear the horrible controls but this is a game changer. Just finished setting everything up and just running around peaches castle WOW, this might be a hot take but dare I say? This might be the best way to play Mario 64 (including the N64 version)
You can also map the run button in SM64 DS to the dpad on the regular ds too. It plays way better with dive/punch on Y and no need to hold down a run button.
Beautiful. Now we need updated Wifi options for DS Games.