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The Japanese and American fleets had a combined seven aircraft carriers fight at Midway. Two years later, the United States had 15 aircraft carriers participate in the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The American industrial capacity made their ultimate victory over Japan inevitable.
Agreed. At 42:05 the narrator states "in just five minutes they had won the War in the Pacific". The US was never going to lose the war in the Pacific. The only way the Japanese could have "won" was to make the American loss of life so great that the American public decided victory wasn't worth the casualties. Even if the Japanese had sunk all three carriers at Midway, the timeline for American victory would have only been delayed by a year at maximum.
It was only 7 carriers by the IJN’s dumb choice. 2 other small carriers were present at Midway but not properly used. Zuiho was there along with Hosho. 2 mid size carriers were also misallocated. Junyo and Ryujo. And in reality a big missing carrier was Zuikaku. She wasn’t damaged at Battle of Coral Sea in which mainly unethical historians like to LIE about. Also, the IJN had 11 battleships, 22 cruisers and 64 destroyers present around Midway and the Aleutians. Face it. The IJN blew it. Nothing else mattered. The IJN blew their best chance for a major victory and it changed the entire course of the war. No battles would have been fought down south had the IJN won at Midway and captured it. Hawaii would be next and there is no way the US could defend it.
@@williambent9636 yes but the IJN also could have added another combo of new pilots from its pilot program. Many historians cover this part up too. At the start of the war, the IJN had 1,500 pilots in the program. The A6M was one of the easiest planes to fly and Zuikaku’s main role would have been providing CAP for surface ships. The primary role for the IJN carriers should have been CAP. So 2/3 of the carriers should have carried fighter planes not bombers. The IJN only had between 80-85 fighter planes in the actual battle of Midway. Many had to land to rearm their 20mm cannons which carried only 60 rounds each. With 5 main carriers plus Ryujo and Junyo and Zuiho and Hosho the IJN could have had over 500 planes with 350 being fighter planes. The umbrella CAP could have extended much further and the 200 US carrier attack planes would not have had a chance. The US Midway planes would have been taken care of the night before via battleship shelling.
I hope you realise that 4 college Feminist & 3 Trans women (Bud Lite drinkers) were psychologically injured by viewing this historically accurate video.
McClusty didn't guide the planes in 2 groups. He and 23 others including Dusty Kleis jumped on the first carrier they laid eyes on. Thanks to Dick Best he and 2 other left the dog pile and found another carrier and Dick sunk it.
Same. What drove it home for me was the fantastic Neil Stephenson novel 'Cryptonomicon' which at it's core was all about code breaking and the technology used to do it and how it led to modern computing, all while pretending to be a combined WW2 action story and modern gold-hunting adventure. A must read if you are even vaguely interested in this sort of thing.
@@exidy-ytit wasn’t code that won the Battle of Midway. You’re being totally misinformed. It’s unbelievable as to how gullible folks like you. Take a look what the IJN potentially had available at or around Midway. Same for Aleutians. Take a look at what the US had. If you can’t even think of a way of winning you are either stupid or unethical or both.
Imagine how Yamamoto must have felt sailing back home after getting his ass so intensely kicked. All four carries and all their planes and pilots...the cream of the crop sent to the bottom of the sea.
The reaction to the loss at Midway was interesting. They claimed a victory in the press. Lied to have lost 1 cv vs 3 for usa. The Navy was not to be criticised. And every surviving dude was sent to remot3 garrisons. They put the 2 remaining cvs from Pearl Harbor attack together with a new one and tried to keep on rolling. Didnt work at eastern solomons or Santa Cruz.
He only had less than a year to worry about it. April 1943 his aircraft and its escorts were ambushed over the Solomon Islands by P-38 Lightning's. Code breakers intercepted his itinerary and the P38's managed to intercept the formation and shoot Yamamoto's aircraft down into the jungle.
Majority of pilots survived. Except for Hiryu. The majority of these pilots were killed at battles of Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz. Agreed 4 fleet carriers were sunk. Huge portion would die flying off Shokaku, Zuikaku, Junyo or when Ryujo was sunk.
But this could have backfired. The IJN sent pretty much everything and the kitchen sink to Midway and the Aleutians but they misallocated and didn’t properly use their arsenal. Well documented by the US Naval War College. Had the IJN properly used their surface ships they should have defeated the Americans at Midway.
It also drove home to the arrogant japs that they could be beaten, they weren't invincible as they believed. Also, it rubbed in the japs commanders and others that, while they thought we Americans, had no honor, bravery, or smarts to win a war, that everything they were either told or believed about us were completely wrong! They honestly felt we were too stupid to get out of the rain by ourselves, along with not cunning enough that they could just go thru us like melted butter. That they were much braver, smartier & way more superior in all ways that we would run away so to speak. Dolittles raid showed those arrogant little runts we dont run. Nor are we cowards & pull together when attacked and then we kick a$$. It was said by the jap admiral "i fear all we have done is awaken the sleeping dragon" So yesh Dolittle & his raiders done much more than just their mission. It reinforced our morale, lowered the japs morale, and shifted the tide of the war in the best ways. Those brave service members who fought. Survived & we lost ate all heros! Im proud of them always!
RIP To the 307 US Navy men and airmen (three killed as prisoners) and 3,057 Imperial Japanese Navy men and airmen who were killed in the Battle of Midway
Midway was US' 4th carrier. It was well-stocked with a motley fleet of obsolete land-based aircraft with mostly insufficiently trained crews. This was the best Pearl Harbor could supply at the time. Although the overall action was known to be significant after the fact, how significant was not known until after the war.
It’s important to understand that the doctrine of a decisive naval battle winning a war tracks back to the crushing defeat of the Russian fleet sent to put them in their place.
None of the intricate details really shared or ethically shared. Only the US Naval War College has done so. It’s clearly evident based on the arsenal the IJN had and what the US lacked at the time of Midway that the IJN should have won. They blew it.
During the attack on Akagi/Kaga the Americans got mixed up in their attack plan and almost collided the two squadrons together. McCloskey did not understand the ''Golden Rule'' in dive bombing. The closest squadron always attacks the ship/target farthest away and the following squadron attacks the closest to keep from crashing into each other. Luckily, Dick Best noticed the confusion and broke away to attack the Akagi and caused lethal damage with a direct hit to the center of the ship. It's very likely his wingman had a near miss which jammed the rudder and caused it to circle for hours until sinking the next day.....
According to Dusty Kleiss, McCloskey did not understand the ''Golden Rule''. McCloskey had just been transferred from a Fighter Squadron. I saw Dusty speak about in an interview and he told the story first hand. Unless you know more than Dusty who hit Kaga, Hiryu and one of the Mogami class cruisers. I will believe What Dusty said, not your suppositions. Look up the interview with Dusty to see for yourself. We're done! You should do better research before replying about a Historical incident. Rodger That?@@phil20_20
No, I think that was the kind of stuff was something they had already worked out during training and such. What it was is they got excited & target fixated on the first carrier they saw. And Dick Best & 2 others actually pulled out of their dives seeing so many already diving on the first carrier. And they were the only 3 to attack the second carrier. Where as if they had looked around a little better they maybe could have gotten all 4 carriers during that one mission & that would have saved the Yorktown from getting hit later in the day.
I have read that he needed to wait to recover the Midway strike force before launching the airstrike against any US carriers. The airstrike might have gotten off prior to the recovery but it launching was delayed by the piecemeal attacks by US forces.
A second attack was recommended by the flight leader after the island was attacked. Nagumo agreed and all of the aircraft had to be re-armed with land attack weapons. Returning aircraft had to wait until the task was completed, running low on fuel. Nagumo's scouts spotted the American carrier's and Nagumo orders the aircraft to be re-armed again with weapons suitable for shipping (torpedoes, armor piercing bombs, etc. ) By then, the decks were strewn with live ammunition, and fueled aircraft. The piecemeal attacks also continue to interrupt the rearming process . That's when the dive bombers arrived overhead with a clear path to the carrier's. The bombs land among the live ammunition and fueled aircraft, starting fires and explosions that doom 3 carrier's. The first 3 are burning within 5 minutes and the Hiryu escaped...until later when it too was set ablaze and sunk.
This type of discussion is simply a smoke screen. The real issue wasn’t about Nagumo. It was the poor battle plan concept. The US Naval War College even stated this but folks like you clearly don’t want to listen. 😂🤣 The IJN should have used their surface ships and put them up front. Battleships should have shelled Midway. Now you can see there is no dilemma with recalling aerial Midway strike force. The IJN would have realized a pleasant surprise too. Can either of you figure it out?
6:20.. check your facts please.. it was Hornet. Yorktown and Enterprise. Lexington was in the Atlantic fleet at the time of Pearl Harbor. They moved it to the Pacific for the Coral Sea battle.
No. You’re incorrect. Lexington and Enterprise and Saratoga were the only 3 carriers in the Pacific at the time of Pearl Harbor. Saratoga was in San Diego. Lexington was ferrying aircraft to Midway and Enterprise to Wake Island at the time of Pearl Harbor. Lexington was quite busy in the Pacific after Pearl Harbor and up to Coral Sea. Hornet was commissioned in Oct 1941 and started off in the Atlantic. Wasp and Ranger were in the Atlantic. Only after the Battle of Coral Sea and Midway did the US decide to move Wasp over to the Pacific.
The instructions for the "water shortage ruse" from Station HYPO in Pearl Harbor were related to Midway via an already existing submarine phone cable ....not by a submarine sending a message .
New to me,some of our heroic Canadian soldiers with the American forces took back the Alution islands. Blessings to our veterans, Rest in peace fellas, greatest generation.
All I can say is "Well Done!" I have watched many Midway videos, and this one is the best in facts and presentation. May I suggest a follow-up Midway video on the non-performance of the Hornet and what went so wrong there ? Old Admiral Mitcher was the air boss of the Hornet, and he was the one who, later in the war, sent Navy pilots off to battle at 5pm, who then had to either run out of gasoline or attempt landing in the dark. At Midway, I believe that the Hornet airplanes were wasted as many flew in the wrong direction and then got lost and had to ditch or try to land on Midway Island. Again Mitcher was wrong. Should Mitcher have been court-martialed for wasting so many precious US Navy aviators ?
MIdway was a cumulative effect. After the loss of pilots and two effective carriers were removed in the Coral Sea campaign. What happened was that the last of their trained pilots and 4 carriers disappeared. It was just the curve from which they never recovered.
Buen relato, dice bien lo que sucedió, y cómo la fuerza móvil japonesa fue destruida, por los bombarderos de picada estadounidenses, y las consecuencias que tuvo para Japón haber perdido la batalla.
I disagree. To put an even finer point on your argument, the Japanese lost the Pacific war in November when their fleet passed the "point of no return" on their way to the Pearl Harbor attack.
.... Totally agreed, I just can't get over the lack of maps in almost all military documentaries. Such a great resource and so over-looked, the maps would bring it all together. I just scratch my head !
I could imagine few, if any, authentic stenographer notes were taken of actual dialogue conversations between Yamamoto and his crew with the folks back in Tokyo during the five, ten-day sail back home. An hour-long live-actor documentary dramatizing the sail back viz. a viz. Yamamoto would be interesting, psychology. Yes? #emilyLinge👩🏼🚒
Excellent work...except at 23:58, where the video states that the attack on the Aleutians occurred on the morning of June 3, 1943. It was 1942. Otherwise, well done!
This Battle was the Japanese Navy's undoing, After it, they lost the initiative, and through many hard battles remained to beat them, they were in the defensive, instead of the offensive as they were the first months of the war-
Oh yes. I wrote a snarky comment regarding but deleted because the video is just so good. I wish he would have briefly listened to another vid to get a correct pronunciation.
@@handylady8015 it was the only thing that kept bothering me mainly because I am pretty sure he correctly pronounced “Nimitz class….” in another video (I could be wrong in that)
The pronunciation of some words and names leaves a bit to be desired, "Neemitz"? "Grooman"? "Cansillydated"? "Ensine"? "Noortillus"? I have heard Nimitz, Grumman, Consolidated, Ensign and Nautilus many times in the past 50 years but never pronounced like this. Good work otherwise, very informative, sound research with very good footage.
I'll be the jerk that says this; not knowing the pronunciation of these basic names made me skeptical of everything else that the man said. I'm pretty familiar with the story of Midway and this isn't bad, but these basic mistakes cost him a lot of credibility.
@@byronlemay2166 Not knowing the correct way to pronounce these names and terms makes me believe that whoever narrated the video didn't have a clue what he was talking about, which lowers my attention to his narration. Too bad. With that sorted it would have been quite good.
As far as I can tell on 4 June, in a number of sorties, the three American carriers and the airstrip at Midway launched a total of approximately 200 aircraft to attack the Japanese carrier fleet: around 15 level-bombers, 65 torpedo-bombers, and 120 dive-bombers, . None of the bombs dropped by the level-bombers hit a Japanese ship. Lots of the torpedo-bombers were shot down and never dropped their torpedo. Of those that did manage to drop their torpedo, none successfully exploded against a Japanese ship. 120 dive- bombers were sent out, each carrying a single bomb. Again, lots of the dive-bombers were shot down and never dropped their weapon. Of those that did, eight hit their target. 120 bombs, with eight hits: a success rate of about 6.6%.
Just a thought if japan and Germany and Italy if they had been together like England and usa and Russia would things have gone different please tell me what you think
So many mistakes and wrong footage ( there were no Hellcats or Helldivers at Midway) ruins it. It's so easy to get it right it makes me mad things like this are out there.
Great video ……really ! Loved it 😊…..however it’s ‘’ GRUM-MAN “ not “ GREW-MAN “ 😂 kinda funny cause GRUMMAN is so Iconic and famous in war / aviation . All good 👌
36:26 that’s not Fletcher that’s Nimitz and watch your pronunciation: Nimitz is not pronounced with a long “e” sound it’s the “I” as in Pims and Gruman is not Groo it’s a “u” as in gum. Otherwise great recount of the Midway battle, thanks.
Someone did a video that showed even if they destroyed the entire fleet, in just a few years the production would have rebuilt it all in overwhelming numbers. They didn't have the materiel to invade the US so it was a lost ware from the very beginning. They thought the US wouldn't want the territory they had taken.
Knowing how and when to stop a war is as important as starting it. Both IJA and IJN had no idea / exit plan to stop theirs. IJN's losses at Midway served as a warning. But militarism and ultra-nationalistic pride dictated that they fought to the bitter end. Until then, more deaths, destruction, rampaging, looting, raping, etc. Threatened with annihilation of his race by A bombs and USSR's attack on Manchuria, Emperor Hirohito finally came to his senses.
You have to see the big picture. We were looking at combating two major foes, halfway around the World from each other. Beating the Japanese was a foregone conclusion. The only real question was when we would finally enter the War. Japan answered that for us. It was then just a matter of prosecuting the war. We weren't going to lose. A lesson lost on our later politicians.
2 main reasons for failure of IJN at Midway: 1) the breaking of their communications code by the Americans, 2) radar technology possessed by Americans.
Yamamoto thought that he had six months to decisively defeat the US and corner the President and Congress into an involuntary peace treaty. This just shows how little he knew about The United States. The US Civil War was the bloodiest conflict in western history. And both sides were citizens of the same country. But it went on and on for years, and nobody would give up. There was no way the US was giving up to some island empire in the Pacific smaller than South Carolina. Even if he sank the entire Pacific fleet in Pearl Harbor and occupied the islands of Hawaii, a peace treaty was never on the table. FDR would have just shook it off and said double or nothing, come get San Diego big guy. And Admiral Nimitz knew this.
Odd thata there are so many mispronunciation, The names I get, but Ensign, Nautilus? these are promnonced to same on both sides of the Atlantic. This is the way I tend to ID AI narration
To Sir Charles, why would your heart go out to the Japanese soldiers and sailors? Does your heart go out to the Nazis also? The Japanese committed some of the worst atrocities of WWII, arguably worse atrocities than the Nazis. The atrocities committed by Japanese soldiers are well documented, so there is no need to go over them here. Japanese naval personnel also committed war crimes, some were even committed in this particular battle. Let's not forget the regular German Army either, their war crimes have also been well documented. Your heart should only go out to the brave American men who fought and died in this major battle, as my heart does.
Namaguchi and the captain decide to go down with the ship for what? Ignorant pride? Not thinking thier country could use thier experience in the future. Wow
People smarter than I has determined it was not the Arashi that was holding Nautilus' head down, Arashi was their groups command ship and would Not have been left behind, specially by itself, Destroyers seldom operated alone, again, specially in Blue water.
Midway, other than the u.s. having the intelligence advantage, was a lot of luck for the Americans. After that it was a battle of attrition, which America was going to win because of their superior production power. Until the battle of the Philippine sea and America by that time had better planes than before and the numerical advantage thanks to that superior production power.
The one thing America was far superior at was safety and damage control. The Zero was far faster and more maneuverable but had no armor nor self-sealing gas tank (rubber coated interior). Their aircraft carriers had no real fire suppression; once a fire started it got big in a hurry. This was why the Yorktown survived both the Coral Sea and the initial attack at Midway.
I dearly love history such as this, I never hear much about the women that worked the factories while our men were out fighting, I would love to see a show about what the home front did for the war effort ??
I used to be the B&W photo lab lead for Boeing. We printed a large number of historic photographs. Boeing and the Museum of Flight have a large number of photographs of Rosie the Riveters building B-17 and B-29s.
My question is how long it took to build operational air craft carriers at the time? And why didn’t the US have the ability to field dozens of carriers and fighters and send them into battle? Six Wildcats and twice the number of torpedo bombers in an attack? Sounds like an abysmal strike force to begin with. Why not several dozen fighters and bombers fighters in a wave? How’s that not possible? Why did midway only have 24 fighters? Couldn’t they not have hundreds? 45:11: Closer to this With their economy, they could’ve overwhelmed the Japanese
At this time frame and probably more due to the Great Depression, it took around 4-5 years. This is why it took the US all the way to 1945 to defeat Japan. But as far as the Essex class the first was ordered in July 1940 and it took around 2.5 years until commissioned. Dec 31, 1942. Planes and pilots were scarce too. Many didn’t understand the importance. The irony is that the IJN over relied on their carriers. Midway was their opportunity to showcase their entire naval strength and they blew it.
Actually no. First of all the IJN didn’t have enough oil in December 1941 Japan secured the oil and shipping route “after” bombing Pearl Harbor and simultaneously attacking and capturing the Philippines. The IJN had every opportunity to defeat the US at Midway in June 1942. They blew it. The IJN vessels outnumbered the US by a ridiculous amount. Had the IJN won at Midway and took out the 3 US carriers which they very well could have and wiped out Task Force 16 and 17 with their long lance torpedos then war in the Pacific would have ended early. The US would have had to simply focus on the Atlantic and then re-start the war afterwards.
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@@Archangelm127 what unethical happend?
Just a quick FYI, the Japanese carries had steal flight decks. The U.S. had wooden decks.
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The Japanese and American fleets had a combined seven aircraft carriers fight at Midway. Two years later, the United States had 15 aircraft carriers participate in the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The American industrial capacity made their ultimate victory over Japan inevitable.
Agreed. At 42:05 the narrator states "in just five minutes they had won the War in the Pacific". The US was never going to lose the war in the Pacific. The only way the Japanese could have "won" was to make the American loss of life so great that the American public decided victory wasn't worth the casualties. Even if the Japanese had sunk all three carriers at Midway, the timeline for American victory would have only been delayed by a year at maximum.
It was only 7 carriers by the IJN’s dumb choice.
2 other small carriers were present at Midway but not properly used. Zuiho was there along with Hosho.
2 mid size carriers were also misallocated. Junyo and Ryujo.
And in reality a big missing carrier was Zuikaku. She wasn’t damaged at Battle of Coral Sea in which mainly unethical historians like to LIE about.
Also, the IJN had 11 battleships, 22 cruisers and 64 destroyers present around Midway and the Aleutians.
Face it. The IJN blew it. Nothing else mattered.
The IJN blew their best chance for a major victory and it changed the entire course of the war.
No battles would have been fought down south had the IJN won at Midway and captured it. Hawaii would be next and there is no way the US could defend it.
@@f430ferrari5 yes also could have combined air groups from shikoku to zuikaku and had a 5th carrier at midway
@@williambent9636 yes but the IJN also could have added another combo of new pilots from its pilot program.
Many historians cover this part up too. At the start of the war, the IJN had 1,500 pilots in the program.
The A6M was one of the easiest planes to fly and Zuikaku’s main role would have been providing CAP for surface ships.
The primary role for the IJN carriers should have been CAP. So 2/3 of the carriers should have carried fighter planes not bombers.
The IJN only had between 80-85 fighter planes in the actual battle of Midway. Many had to land to rearm their 20mm cannons which carried only 60 rounds each.
With 5 main carriers plus Ryujo and Junyo and Zuiho and Hosho the IJN could have had over 500 planes with 350 being fighter planes.
The umbrella CAP could have extended much further and the 200 US carrier attack planes would not have had a chance.
The US Midway planes would have been taken care of the night before via battleship shelling.
That and a powerful force of Marines and Army soldiers, long range bombers, submarines, and the newest equipment on the ground and in the air.
Ahh... A nice relaxing documentary about the unimaginable horrors of modern war to blissfully drift asleep too. Much appreciated!
I hope you realise that 4 college Feminist & 3 Trans women (Bud Lite drinkers) were psychologically injured by viewing this historically accurate video.
@@scottyfox6376 😂😂
@@scottyfox6376 You say that like it is a bad thing?
@@scottyfox6376can't even come to RUclips comments on a video about Midway without some inane comment like this?
ROFLMAO
Why Richard Dick Best name is never mentioned in the production??? He's the main SVD dive bomber who hit two of the Japanese aircraft carrier.......🙏
How about dusty kleiss? He also hit 2 aircraft carriers.
Scout Bomber Diver Dauntless
McClusty didn't guide the planes in 2 groups. He and 23 others including Dusty Kleis jumped on the first carrier they laid eyes on. Thanks to Dick Best he and 2 other left the dog pile and found another carrier and Dick sunk it.
When I was younger I never understood just how critically important breaking the Japanese and German codes were in winning WW2!!
Same. What drove it home for me was the fantastic Neil Stephenson novel 'Cryptonomicon' which at it's core was all about code breaking and the technology used to do it and how it led to modern computing, all while pretending to be a combined WW2 action story and modern gold-hunting adventure. A must read if you are even vaguely interested in this sort of thing.
@@exidy-ytit wasn’t code that won the Battle of Midway.
You’re being totally misinformed.
It’s unbelievable as to how gullible folks like you.
Take a look what the IJN potentially had available at or around Midway. Same for Aleutians.
Take a look at what the US had.
If you can’t even think of a way of winning you are either stupid or unethical or both.
Just as important was the Navajo code we used. The one that was never broken
@@jeffvanschoonhoven5171 not really. Are you trying to say that if the US didn’t have or the Navajo code then they would have lost?
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100% truth!!!
Imagine how Yamamoto must have felt sailing back home after getting his ass so intensely kicked. All four carries and all their planes and pilots...the cream of the crop sent to the bottom of the sea.
The reaction to the loss at Midway was interesting. They claimed a victory in the press. Lied to have lost 1 cv vs 3 for usa. The Navy was not to be criticised. And every surviving dude was sent to remot3 garrisons. They put the 2 remaining cvs from Pearl Harbor attack together with a new one and tried to keep on rolling. Didnt work at eastern solomons or Santa Cruz.
He only had less than a year to worry about it. April 1943 his aircraft and its escorts were ambushed over the Solomon Islands by P-38 Lightning's. Code breakers intercepted his itinerary and the P38's managed to intercept the formation and shoot Yamamoto's aircraft down into the jungle.
Majority of pilots survived. Except for Hiryu. The majority of these pilots were killed at battles of Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz. Agreed 4 fleet carriers were sunk. Huge portion would die flying off Shokaku, Zuikaku, Junyo or when Ryujo was sunk.
Hirohito should’ve executed Yamamoto immediately after the battle of Midway.
+@@lukamilas8648 Ridiculous.If Japan would have known we had broken their Naval Code. They would have adjusted. and won the Battle of Midway.
My brother served on USS Midway in the mid 80s. He also served on USS Missouri during the first Gulf War
If so, I believe your brother was a punk. Real men serve in the air force or royal marines.
Thank you very much for these war stories. We appreciate you very much. Continue your good work
This is why I believe the Doolittle raid was crucial. It made the Japanese realize that the must get our ACs and thus they attacked Midway.
But this could have backfired. The IJN sent pretty much everything and the kitchen sink to Midway and the Aleutians but they misallocated and didn’t properly use their arsenal.
Well documented by the US Naval War College. Had the IJN properly used their surface ships they should have defeated the Americans at Midway.
It also drove home to the arrogant japs that they could be beaten, they weren't invincible as they believed. Also, it rubbed in the japs commanders and others that, while they thought we Americans, had no honor, bravery, or smarts to win a war, that everything they were either told or believed about us were completely wrong!
They honestly felt we were too stupid to get out of the rain by ourselves, along with not cunning enough that they could just go thru us like melted butter. That they were much braver, smartier & way more superior in all ways that we would run away so to speak.
Dolittles raid showed those arrogant little runts we dont run. Nor are we cowards & pull together when attacked and then we kick a$$.
It was said by the jap admiral "i fear all we have done is awaken the sleeping dragon"
So yesh Dolittle & his raiders done much more than just their mission. It reinforced our morale, lowered the japs morale, and shifted the tide of the war in the best ways.
Those brave service members who fought. Survived & we lost ate all heros! Im proud of them always!
Did you mean CV?
RIP
To the 307 US Navy men and airmen (three killed as prisoners) and 3,057 Imperial Japanese Navy men and airmen who were killed in the Battle of Midway
Midway was US' 4th carrier. It was well-stocked with a motley fleet of obsolete land-based aircraft with mostly insufficiently trained crews. This was the best Pearl Harbor could supply at the time. Although the overall action was known to be significant after the fact, how significant was not known until after the war.
It’s a miracle we won this battle at all
Love these long in depth documentaries
Same I listen to these while driving, playing war thunder, working, and everything in between
It’s important to understand that the doctrine of a decisive naval battle winning a war tracks back to the crushing defeat of the Russian fleet sent to put them in their place.
You make some of the best war history docs on RUclips
Except that the computer voice needs it's pronounciation tweaked for words like 'Nautilius', 'ensign' and 'Yamato'. :p
Wow, I never knew the intricate details of this battle in such depth. Thanks for the informative video!
None of the intricate details really shared or ethically shared.
Only the US Naval War College has done so. It’s clearly evident based on the arsenal the IJN had and what the US lacked at the time of Midway that the IJN should have won. They blew it.
Excellent work! Thank you.
This was very well done. Awesome documentary. Thanks for the upload 😊😊😊✌️
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During the attack on Akagi/Kaga the Americans got mixed up in their attack plan and almost collided the two squadrons together. McCloskey did not understand the ''Golden Rule'' in dive bombing. The closest squadron always attacks the ship/target farthest away and the following squadron attacks the closest to keep from crashing into each other. Luckily, Dick Best noticed the confusion and broke away to attack the Akagi and caused lethal damage with a direct hit to the center of the ship. It's very likely his wingman had a near miss which jammed the rudder and caused it to circle for hours until sinking the next day.....
This is where those doctrine were developed. He didn't miss the plan.
According to Dusty Kleiss, McCloskey did not understand the ''Golden Rule''. McCloskey had just been transferred from a Fighter Squadron. I saw Dusty speak about in an interview and he told the story first hand. Unless you know more than Dusty who hit Kaga, Hiryu and one of the Mogami class cruisers. I will believe What Dusty said, not your suppositions. Look up the interview with Dusty to see for yourself. We're done! You should do better research before replying about a Historical incident. Rodger That?@@phil20_20
No, I think that was the kind of stuff was something they had already worked out during training and such. What it was is they got excited & target fixated on the first carrier they saw. And Dick Best & 2 others actually pulled out of their dives seeing so many already diving on the first carrier. And they were the only 3 to attack the second carrier. Where as if they had looked around a little better they maybe could have gotten all 4 carriers during that one mission & that would have saved the Yorktown from getting hit later in the day.
December 7th my birthday
That’s a good one ! A couple weeks before Jesus bday🎉
Admiral Chester NIMM-itz not NEEM-itz. Still a great video.
Definitely much better than other narratives of The Battle of Midway.
Very good presentation of the battle. As an American, I'll chalk up what I consider mispronunciations to this being a British production.
Yes, the pronunciation of Nimitz isn't quite right.
Whoohoo!!! A new ep! Btw, wth is this channel not getting more attention!?
I have read that he needed to wait to recover the Midway strike force before launching the airstrike against any US carriers. The airstrike might have gotten off prior to the recovery but it launching was delayed by the piecemeal attacks by US forces.
A second attack was recommended by the flight leader after the island was attacked. Nagumo agreed and all of the aircraft had to be re-armed with land attack weapons. Returning aircraft had to wait until the task was completed, running low on fuel. Nagumo's scouts spotted the American carrier's and Nagumo orders the aircraft to be re-armed again with weapons suitable for shipping (torpedoes, armor piercing bombs, etc. ) By then, the decks were strewn with live ammunition, and fueled aircraft. The piecemeal attacks also continue to interrupt the rearming process . That's when the dive bombers arrived overhead with a clear path to the carrier's. The bombs land among the live ammunition and fueled aircraft, starting fires and explosions that doom 3 carrier's. The first 3 are burning within 5 minutes and the Hiryu escaped...until later when it too was set ablaze and sunk.
This type of discussion is simply a smoke screen.
The real issue wasn’t about Nagumo. It was the poor battle plan concept.
The US Naval War College even stated this but folks like you clearly don’t want to listen. 😂🤣
The IJN should have used their surface ships and put them up front. Battleships should have shelled Midway. Now you can see there is no dilemma with recalling aerial Midway strike force.
The IJN would have realized a pleasant surprise too. Can either of you figure it out?
6:20.. check your facts please.. it was Hornet. Yorktown and Enterprise. Lexington was in the Atlantic fleet at the time of Pearl Harbor. They moved it to the Pacific for the Coral Sea battle.
No. You’re incorrect.
Lexington and Enterprise and Saratoga were the only 3 carriers in the Pacific at the time of Pearl Harbor.
Saratoga was in San Diego.
Lexington was ferrying aircraft to Midway and Enterprise to Wake Island at the time of Pearl Harbor.
Lexington was quite busy in the Pacific after Pearl Harbor and up to Coral Sea.
Hornet was commissioned in Oct 1941 and started off in the Atlantic.
Wasp and Ranger were in the Atlantic.
Only after the Battle of Coral Sea and Midway did the US decide to move Wasp over to the Pacific.
I love these historical documentaries. Bravo 👏
The instructions for the "water shortage ruse" from Station HYPO in Pearl Harbor were related to Midway via an already existing submarine phone cable ....not by a submarine sending a message .
Man this guys voice is outstanding! Keep up the great work, please lol
Admiral 'Knee-Mitts'
Good job.
Video starts at 4:11! Man I hate advertising and ads!
Very good
New to me,some of our heroic Canadian soldiers with the American forces took back the Alution islands. Blessings to our veterans, Rest in peace fellas, greatest generation.
I believe when they went to “take back” the Aleutian s the Japanese had already left
All I can say is "Well Done!"
I have watched many Midway videos, and this one is the best in facts and presentation.
May I suggest a follow-up Midway video on the non-performance of the Hornet and what went so wrong there ? Old Admiral Mitcher was the air boss of the Hornet, and he was the one who, later in the war, sent Navy pilots off to battle at 5pm, who then had to either run out of gasoline or attempt landing in the dark.
At Midway, I believe that the Hornet airplanes were wasted as many flew in the wrong direction and then got lost and had to ditch or try to land on Midway Island. Again Mitcher was wrong.
Should Mitcher have been court-martialed for wasting so many precious US Navy aviators ?
Dad lost his carrier at Midway 😢sank on his birthday.
MIdway was a cumulative effect. After the loss of pilots and two effective carriers were removed in the Coral Sea campaign.
What happened was that the last of their trained pilots and 4 carriers disappeared. It was just the curve from which they never recovered.
Fantastico hero Mr. Rochefort & admidral Nimitz.... With love and respect from Vietnam, allahu akhbar.
FYI: Japan had NO twin engine aircraft on their carriers.
Video starts @4:11
@36:22 This is Admiral Nimitz NOT Admiral Fletcher as this video's narrator indicated.
Great video but your pronunciation of Nimitz has me rolling on the floor 🤣
1942, the year of turning points. Stalingrad for the European theater, (although technically ended in 1943), and Midway for the Pacific.
Great show! Odd music choice though. Lol
The Japanese sailors: "They missed again! They missed again! They missed again! They mis...........💣❤🔥
I'm sure they were shitting their pants the whole time.
At the 24:00 mark you meant to say "1942".
Not even 5 minutes into the video and I’ve watched 6 ads😂😂😂 wtf lol you should space them out more to retain audience attention
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Buen relato, dice bien lo que sucedió, y cómo la fuerza móvil japonesa fue destruida, por los bombarderos de picada estadounidenses, y las consecuencias que tuvo para Japón haber perdido la batalla.
Nimitz ! Not Neemitz
Did you ever stop to think of what even a minor tsunami would be like against an Island like this. What's the highest point. 129ft.
When saying the Name of the Fleet Admiral think of the movie, The secret of Nimh. Then say Nimitz. Not Neemitz.
Agree
Turning point is an understatement in a span of 10 minutes Japan lost the war
I disagree. To put an even finer point on your argument, the Japanese lost the Pacific war in November when their fleet passed the "point of no return" on their way to the Pearl Harbor attack.
It would have been greate with some maps from time to time to illustrate what you describe.
Montemayor has the best documentaries on the pacific battles that exist.
.... Totally agreed, I just can't get over the lack of maps in almost all military documentaries. Such a great resource and so over-looked, the maps would bring it all together. I just scratch my head !
I could imagine few, if any, authentic stenographer notes were taken of actual dialogue conversations between Yamamoto and his crew with the folks back in Tokyo during the five, ten-day sail back home. An hour-long live-actor documentary dramatizing the sail back viz. a viz. Yamamoto would be interesting, psychology. Yes? #emilyLinge👩🏼🚒
There were no aircraft on the flight decks when the dive bombers attacted. Maybe you should read shattered sword
Excellent work...except at 23:58, where the video states that the attack on the Aleutians occurred on the morning of June 3, 1943. It was 1942. Otherwise, well done!
❌= Battle
✔️= BATTHEL
This Battle was the Japanese Navy's undoing, After it, they lost the initiative, and through many hard battles remained to beat them, they were in the defensive, instead of the offensive as they were the first months of the war-
The American crew that tried to ram Nagumo's bridge I believe unnerved him and made him unsure.
😂 the way he pronounced Nimitz as knee-mitz
Oh yes. I wrote a snarky comment regarding but deleted because the video is just so good. I wish he would have briefly listened to another vid to get a correct pronunciation.
@@handylady8015 it was the only thing that kept bothering me mainly because I am pretty sure he correctly pronounced “Nimitz class….” in another video (I could be wrong in that)
That wasn’t Admiral Fletcher, that was Admiral Nimitz.
Your comment that "Admiral Fletcher was about to throw his hat into the ring;" erroneously displayed a picture of Admiral Nimitz.
Thank you mam , may I have another
nice narrating
The pronunciation of some words and names leaves a bit to be desired, "Neemitz"? "Grooman"? "Cansillydated"? "Ensine"? "Noortillus"? I have heard Nimitz, Grumman, Consolidated, Ensign and Nautilus many times in the past 50 years but never pronounced like this.
Good work otherwise, very informative, sound research with very good footage.
I'll be the jerk that says this; not knowing the pronunciation of these basic names made me skeptical of everything else that the man said. I'm pretty familiar with the story of Midway and this isn't bad, but these basic mistakes cost him a lot of credibility.
@@stearman456 I agree. But sounding like he's English, he was probably trying to be cute.
@@byronlemay2166 Not knowing the correct way to pronounce these names and terms makes me believe that whoever narrated the video didn't have a clue what he was talking about, which lowers my attention to his narration. Too bad. With that sorted it would have been quite good.
As far as I can tell on 4 June, in a number of sorties, the three American carriers and the airstrip at Midway launched a total of approximately 200 aircraft to attack the Japanese carrier fleet: around 15 level-bombers, 65 torpedo-bombers, and 120 dive-bombers, .
None of the bombs dropped by the level-bombers hit a Japanese ship.
Lots of the torpedo-bombers were shot down and never dropped their torpedo. Of those that did manage to drop their torpedo, none successfully exploded against a Japanese ship.
120 dive- bombers were sent out, each carrying a single bomb. Again, lots of the dive-bombers were shot down and never dropped their weapon. Of those that did, eight hit their target. 120 bombs, with eight hits: a success rate of about 6.6%.
Just a thought if japan and Germany and Italy if they had been together like England and usa and Russia would things have gone different please tell me what you think
So many mistakes and wrong footage ( there were no Hellcats or Helldivers at Midway) ruins it. It's so easy to get it right it makes me mad things like this are out there.
I think every Enlisted chow hall on every US Navy base in the world is named Nimitz Hall. Every Marine enlisted chow hall is named Geiger Hall.
Great video ……really ! Loved it 😊…..however it’s ‘’ GRUM-MAN “ not “ GREW-MAN “ 😂 kinda funny cause GRUMMAN is so Iconic and famous in war / aviation . All good 👌
36:26 that’s not Fletcher that’s Nimitz and watch your pronunciation: Nimitz is not pronounced with a long “e” sound it’s the “I” as in Pims and Gruman is not Groo it’s a “u” as in gum. Otherwise great recount of the Midway battle, thanks.
Your thumbnail is a beautiful painting by RG Smith.
Someone did a video that showed even if they destroyed the entire fleet, in just a few years the production would have rebuilt it all in overwhelming numbers. They didn't have the materiel to invade the US so it was a lost ware from the very beginning. They thought the US wouldn't want the territory they had taken.
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Nice job !!!
Knowing how and when to stop a war is as important as starting it.
Both IJA and IJN had no idea / exit plan to stop theirs.
IJN's losses at Midway served as a warning.
But militarism and ultra-nationalistic pride dictated that they fought to the bitter end.
Until then, more deaths, destruction, rampaging, looting, raping, etc.
Threatened with annihilation of his race by A bombs and USSR's attack on Manchuria,
Emperor Hirohito finally came to his senses.
The Battle that changed the Pacific war? Are wars changed by all their battles? What if there was no battle of the Coral Sea?
Nimitz is not pronounced Neemitz. Do your homework
You have to see the big picture. We were looking at combating two major foes, halfway around the World from each other. Beating the Japanese was a foregone conclusion. The only real question was when we would finally enter the War. Japan answered that for us. It was then just a matter of prosecuting the war. We weren't going to lose. A lesson lost on our later politicians.
2 main reasons for failure of IJN at Midway: 1) the breaking of their communications code by the Americans, 2) radar technology possessed by Americans.
Yamamoto thought that he had six months to decisively defeat the US and corner the President and Congress into an involuntary peace treaty. This just shows how little he knew about The United States. The US Civil War was the bloodiest conflict in western history. And both sides were citizens of the same country. But it went on and on for years, and nobody would give up. There was no way the US was giving up to some island empire in the Pacific smaller than South Carolina. Even if he sank the entire Pacific fleet in Pearl Harbor and occupied the islands of Hawaii, a peace treaty was never on the table. FDR would have just shook it off and said double or nothing, come get San Diego big guy. And Admiral Nimitz knew this.
Before Midway the Japanese were on the offensive. After midway they were on the defensive all the way to Nagasaki.
Once the US came into the war, the Japanese only strategy could be called "Hail Mary!" Yamato knew this.
It's pronounced Nimitz not Neemitz!
The ore inspiring Yamato
Does anyone know who narrators this?
Easily one of the most horrid battles of the pacific war. Amazing that anyone survived.
There were much larger battles after midway with greater losses.
Yea you are right.
Odd thata there are so many mispronunciation, The names I get, but Ensign, Nautilus? these are promnonced to same on both sides of the Atlantic. This is the way I tend to ID AI narration
To Sir Charles, why would your heart go out to the Japanese soldiers and sailors? Does your heart go out to the Nazis also?
The Japanese committed some of the worst atrocities of WWII, arguably worse atrocities than the Nazis. The atrocities committed by Japanese soldiers are well documented, so there is no need to go over them here.
Japanese naval personnel also committed war crimes, some were even committed in this particular battle. Let's not forget the regular German Army either, their war crimes have also been well documented.
Your heart should only go out to the brave American men who fought and died in this major battle, as my heart does.
Well said and very true.
Tks Dave. My grandfather and his brother landed on Utah Beach. My dad fought in the Korean War, and I served during the cold war in the USAF.
@@davidphillips6803 Forgot 2 mention the U.S. sub that made the Midway battle a success. Look it up, U will B surprised, and glad.
Exactly. The Japs weren't victims here. Even civilians were using their own homes to supply their war efforts. The Allies were the heroes here.
History shows the world is not ready for nukes😭
Namaguchi and the captain decide to go down with the ship for what? Ignorant pride? Not thinking thier country could use thier experience in the future. Wow
People smarter than I has determined it was not the Arashi that was holding Nautilus' head down, Arashi was their groups command ship and would Not have been left behind, specially by itself, Destroyers seldom operated alone, again, specially in Blue water.
1942 not 1943
My uncle served in the Pacific campaign- this is very personal to me. I am offended by the snarky comments- typical of our society today 😢
Why was the Japanese navy and army so ineffective vs the US navy and and army throughout the war. Even during battles where strength was equal?
Midway, other than the u.s. having the intelligence advantage, was a lot of luck for the Americans. After that it was a battle of attrition, which America was going to win because of their superior production power. Until the battle of the Philippine sea and America by that time had better planes than before and the numerical advantage thanks to that superior production power.
The one thing America was far superior at was safety and damage control. The Zero was far faster and more maneuverable but had no armor nor self-sealing gas tank (rubber coated interior). Their aircraft carriers had no real fire suppression; once a fire started it got big in a hurry. This was why the Yorktown survived both the Coral Sea and the initial attack at Midway.
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I dearly love history such as this, I never hear much about the women that worked the factories while our men were out fighting, I would love to see a show about what the home front did for the war effort ??
I used to be the B&W photo lab lead for Boeing. We printed a large number of historic photographs. Boeing and the Museum of Flight have a large number of photographs of Rosie the Riveters building B-17 and B-29s.
At 20:55, nice image of a Blaupunkt radio.
My question is how long it took to build operational air craft carriers at the time? And why didn’t the US have the ability to field dozens of carriers and fighters and send them into battle? Six Wildcats and twice the number of torpedo bombers in an attack? Sounds like an abysmal strike force to begin with. Why not several dozen fighters and bombers fighters in a wave? How’s that not possible? Why did midway only have 24 fighters? Couldn’t they not have hundreds?
45:11: Closer to this
With their economy, they could’ve overwhelmed the Japanese
At this time frame and probably more due to the Great Depression, it took around 4-5 years.
This is why it took the US all the way to 1945 to defeat Japan.
But as far as the Essex class the first was ordered in July 1940 and it took around 2.5 years until commissioned. Dec 31, 1942.
Planes and pilots were scarce too. Many didn’t understand the importance.
The irony is that the IJN over relied on their carriers. Midway was their opportunity to showcase their entire naval strength and they blew it.
The United States, with their isolationist sentiments and policies, was simply unprepared. And it was inexcusable.
If Japan seized Hawaii and Midway day 1, and taken out the carriers - that war would have gone on for a long long time.
Actually no. First of all the IJN didn’t have enough oil in December 1941
Japan secured the oil and shipping route “after” bombing Pearl Harbor and simultaneously attacking and capturing the Philippines.
The IJN had every opportunity to defeat the US at Midway in June 1942. They blew it.
The IJN vessels outnumbered the US by a ridiculous amount.
Had the IJN won at Midway and took out the 3 US carriers which they very well could have and wiped out Task Force 16 and 17 with their long lance torpedos then war in the Pacific would have ended early.
The US would have had to simply focus on the Atlantic and then re-start the war afterwards.
Or, more likely, would have ended very quickly.
And the world, from that point on, would have been a much worse place.
Chester Nimitz, N-im-itz, not Nem-itz.