time for the boxer to get the straight line from 1980 and Falkland to 2022 Ukraine invasion covering 42 years of tank progress but also questioning when a tank is a tank. No tracks and being a tank is somehow feeling strange even though we had seen those for 85 years at least considering the Panzerspähwagen appeared before the Czech campaign
I believe it's 🥵🔥 HOT every damn where! It's been 96+ degrees here in southeastern North Carolina since mid May. I am not exaggerating or lying, it went from our normal mild spring, because we really don't have a winter to scorching Hot, sometimes dry but most of the time Humid as the Amazon with the everyday temp being 96-100 & heat index of 110-115 almost every day since May 18th. Sad part is it won't stop or change until mid October when we start transitioning to our Fall/Spring season! Unless a Hurricane slams into us then we'll get a 2-3 day break from the heat but then we will be without power for 12-18 days, so it's not a winning combination anyway you go here!?!
@@vanguardactual1 yeah, it’s looking like a world wide heat wave! We’re sweltering here in Texas, around 108F every day. Can’t even catch any rain. One day it’s dry heat, the next humid, then back to dry. I don’t like this trend of every year getting noticeably hotter.
@@darkninjacorporation Yes exactly the same here. We went through a spell where we had little to no rain from late May until the last week of June then we had the normal pattern of afternoon T-storms that pop up from the heating of the day. Then around mid-July, maybe 2nd week in, it reverted right back to extreme heat with on & off Humidity & NO rain. Every once in a while, a storm will crop up, but it will die out or literally split into & bypass us! Almost like it is programmed. Such a Hot, miserable Summer here in southeastern NC this year. What you said is absolutely true as well, our Summers are getting worse & longer & what "Winter" we used to have been pretty much gone nowadays. Our seasons go from Hot=Summer till usually mid Oct then we transition into Fall for the mild "old winter" from late Dec to late Feb. Which honestly is more like a Fall/Spring season that last until late April early May sometimes late May but not this year!
I joined the army because I wanted to be armoured infantry, I wanted so badly to jump out the back of a Warrior. Went to depot got told that I'd be joining an armoured infantry battalion, my dream had come true. Joined the battalion after finishing training and they re-roled to light role infantry, typical.
I was in Fallingbostel when we were the first armoured infantry regiment to receive them. Going from a 432 to one of these was like swopping a Lada to a Mercedes I absolutely loved driving one of these the first ones had a see through fuel tank .it made a lot of the guys suffer from sea sickness .
I was a very young Rfn in the early-80s and remember our C/Sgt coming back from an exhibition with pictures of the brand new MCV80. It seemed a world away from the 432.
They were painted pretty quickly. The smell in the turret would be terrible 😂😂😂 I drive/gunned and commanded one way back in 1990 to 95. Fantastic bit of kit, wouldn’t be alive today if not for this vehicle.
I was armoured infantry form 92 - 97 and spent some time as a Warrior driver in Germany, BATUS and Bosnia. The vehicle commander never dismounted with the section there's no way he could have collapsed the seat and opened the turret cage and got out of the turret in time to command a section attack. The section of seven would be commanded by an JNCO or a senior private soldier split in to two fire teams. Charlie fire team would have four men including the Section commander and Delta fire team of three man.
Good video. I remember stories at the time that the hinges holding the back door on were too weak to begin with. Resulting in the doors falling off at times until the problem was fixed. Still better than Ajax.
Thank you Tank Museum, for a Fantastic Tankfest 2022, and for our return visit 5 days ago , where we were very fortunate and honoured to meet the Archive team along with small exhibits curator.. Brilliant and super helpful.!! and now this evening to watch and learn all about the Warrior, the icing on the cake.. Thank you for a very memorable few weeks.. See you soonest , ATVB to one and all. Scott ,Somerset
Nothing about the myriad dramas we had on the dire Chain Gun? I was still going to breech explosions in 2007! The bloke who was the Desk Officer from inception resigned after 15 years fighting it. The record was 14 Breech Explosions in 10 days. But the truck itself is Blinding! Tough, useable, reliable, fast. IF they ever replace it it will have to be some truck!
Talking about the stopping ability - I was working next to the A303 when a tourist slowed dramatically to gawp at Stonehenge. Suffice to say they were very lucky that the Warrior was able to stop suddenly from 30-40mph, nose into the tarmac and with a fair bit of squealing (and presumably swearing). Presumably the tourists stopped at the next services to change underwear...
UK. We are one of the few places in the World where a busy A-road would be tolerated next to something like Stonehenge; though it would certainly be done differently today. Then there are the Giza slums camel spitting range from The Pyramids I suppose 🐪
AFAIK the idea of the vehicle commander dismounting with the infantry was scrapped because it was too awkward for him to get out of the turret via the troop compartment. There was also a spate of accidents where Warrior commanders got bits of their anatomy crushed in the turret mechanism, which may have contributed to this change. My uncle did some work on Warriors in the context of designing simulators for them, and I remember that he wasn't very impressed by the design of the turret. That was an engineer's perspective, not a soldier's though. There were persistent problems with the 7.62mm Chain Gun jamming (ironic, since low stoppage rate is supposed to be a strong point of an externally powered weapon). IIRC, these were traced to the fact that the turret design had the belt hanging loose instead of supported, and the Chain Gun's feed mechanism didn't have the power to lift it consistently.
Great video. Loved the fact about the dummy gun, was told with Soviet armored vehicles to look for vehicles with extra aerials to target because they are command units.
Rocking the sun glasses! If they aren't also serving as a Heads Up Display then I am extremely impressed with your off-the-cuff ability to remember all this data.
A very well presented video David and filled with interesting facts on the development of the Warrior. Again, thanks for the excellent information flow and keep them coming.
Will the Warrior that saved the Life of Johnson Beharry VC, Be added to the Bovington Collection? The Next Generation of British Tank Armour ought to be named "Don't Worry, Beharry" in his Honour :)
The Warrior is an absolute beast. Easily my favourite vehicle to drive and really easy to maintain 👌🏻. It will be a real shame when it does go out of service. Great Tank Chat as always. Keep up the fantastic work!
@@kannan159 It's not always the advertised features of an IFV which make it a good vehicle. You could have the best IFV in the world on paper but if the maintenance is difficult and it spends most of the time out of the fight, is it any good? The same goes for comfortability and ease of use. If the vehicle is uncomfortable and difficult to use, then the crew wont be able to utilize the platform efficiently.
@@XboxBruka Yeah but other ifvs around the world are easier to maintain and provide good comfortablity aswel there is nothing other ifvs dont have that warrior does, its just warrior doesnt have something as basic as a stabilizer , i really dont know how it entered service.
@@DerLoladin You do know they have just finished, then cancelled, the Warrior CSP programme that completely modernised them....screwed up totally by Lockheed Martin, but did eventually deliver a decent upgrade and good turret, but the MoD lost patience...
@@dogsnads5634 It didn't modernize them. The CSP program was, by its own name, a mere lifetime extension to save money on a vehicle that desperately needed replacing. Slapping a new turret (which lacked missile capabilities iirc) and gun on a throughly outdated hull is the equivalent of riding in an M51 Sherman in the age of Centurion and M48 - I know which one I'd much rather be in.
They presumably thought chobham armor would work because for the weight its more effective than conventional armor but its a lot more expensive, so it was probably dropped from the production vehicles because of that.
Idea was the base vehicle didnt need the armour protection as it might be doing rear line duties or low intensity conflicts like peacekeeping but you could simply slot on the extra armour when required.
Worked with these vehicles as a dismount in 2003 on OP Telic.......got really found of them. Bit dusty when doing top cover out of the mortar hatches on the roof😀😀😀😀
Love the 90s movie "Warriors". I always feel like the Warrior is a bit of a forgotten "hero" of the IFV world. Sunglasses make the narrator cool AF. Ngl
Very interesting. My son is a REME Captain, and about to command LAD for a regiment equipped with FV510. I assume the 512/513 will continue when any wheeled replacement is introduced. The Tank Museum Shop kit is very good (Meng) but I recommend adding the Accurate Armour brass bar armour etches instead of the plastic ones.
I really miss seeing tanks, AFV's, 'planes. Used to see (proper) 'planes every week, nowadays, it's not even once a year. Catterick's walking distance & I've not seen a 'green car' in many years. The reduction in numbers seems astonishing.
Seriously the only thing this video was missing is Finn. I bought his puppet for a friend of mine's young daughter and she loves talking to the Finn puppet.
This Man is a Legend I love his Acting his Voice and the Entire Video. I see the Warrior Fighting in Afgahnistan was crazy cause he is like the Chally 2 a very underrated Tank (IFV) But as same as the Chally 2 the Only Vehicle not become destroyed from Enemy Fire. The Warrior was one of the Strongest Help in Afgahnistan in My Opinion more than the Abrams was. But no Stabilazer mhm but anyway the Crew who fight with the IFV dindt need this Haha. I love the Chally 2 I love the Warriors. In My Opinion one of the Best in his Times. Great Tank Chat go on.
Sadly, MOD Chertsey is no more. It was responsible for many innovations in armoured vehicle design, including 'Chobham' armour. Hopefully, the archive has survived and conserved by The Tank Museum.
I’m a retired US Army Infantryman and I’ve seen firsthand how effective that armor is, it’s mine bending how well it works! During the Gulf War our M1 Abrams got hit with Iraqi sabot rounds and they just stick a little into the armor and we used them as foot pegs to get onto the turret for the remained of the deployment! Great British invention!
I find it interesting that they didn't mention the MILAN and MILAN 2 missiles these things would occasionally carry to deal with heavier armor. Great video though! This might be my favorite IFV.
They wasnt used that often on the warrior m8 , i dont think the milan was all that effctive when mounted on the warrior i believe it was pretty akward to use on the warrior. Or so i was told when i was in milan platoon. Warrior a great bit of kit spent a lot of time sitting in the back off one in iraq.
I served on warrior through the nineties, Muster Germany . we had law 90's in the back, no milan! law 90 has gone, we now have NLAW. you can fit 8 NLAWS in the infantry compartment, When the backseaters went out the door they'd take a couple of em with them .
Looking at the books 110 or just over a 5th of the Infantry carriers were configured for carrying ATGM teams (Milan and Javelin) there was also a Desert Storm field modification to externally mount Milan performed on an unknown number of vehicles but it doesnt look to have stuck around after the conflict. The Kuwati's mounted a couple of TOW on theirs which they bought after the Gulf War.
In the first gulf war they sent the Warriors against Iraqi positions in twos. One had an infantry section on board, the other one was filled with LAW94s (no one called them LAW90s). They would stop, debus, grab as many LAWs as needed from the other Warrior and start twatting the Iraqi sangars with rockets and cannon fire. If they still didn't surrender after that the lads pepper potted forwards with fixed bayonets and lobbed phos grenades in. The Staffords had an embedded photographer with them who filmed it all.
I remember watching a documentary way back about the warrior that had not yet come into service. It was a BBC doc and as usual very anti British where it had got an anonymous high ranking British officer who wanted the Bradley, among other things he moaned about the rear doors of the warrior and stated it would be easier and cheaper to buy off the shelf. That didn't age well.
The I watched that old doc too, and it is not anti-British. The basic scales of economy were in the Bradley’s favour ( *Just like the F-35 today* ), and being interoperable in future multi-national coalition wars was seen as imperative as the armed forces shrunk. It’s the same story as pre-WW2. Everything was cheaper through axle because kit was also adopted by the Empire. There’s no empire now though, and everyone else was either buying off-the-shelf American, or still using American parts on their version. Following down those same footsteps, while keeping British manufacturing partners going would have been cheaper in the long run. Especially, now that we know how many deep cuts the army has taken over the past +30yrs, and how many more funding cuts they will have to endure for the next decade too.
@@cjwrench07 I don't remember the emphasis being so much about cost but more to do with the quality of the vehicles in particular one concern was the doors at the rear and that because there was no hydraulics to open the doors, ( I don't know if this was corrected since) that if the vehicle was stuck nose down in a ditch soldiers would be unable to open the doors due to weight. Of course scale of production does come into play but an independent country should not give up manufacturing skills for the sake of price, also although it was long ago I felt the arguments against the warrior program were not strong enough to cancel it and seemed very anti home grown industry.
@@jac627 there was some emphasis on costs. The worry of relying on a sole contractor, building a brand new multi-variant vehicle, meant cost overruns couldn’t be eaten up by the company, so by extension *only* British Taxpayers would have to cover them regardless. Not multiple nations in the case of cooperation. On the other hand, fhe Bradley would Abe been subsidized by a much larger order volume; meaning less cost per-vehicle with any overruns. Also a British defence company would have been given local production, heavy & light maintenance, and out-of-nation upgrade/repair rights. Thus making the Bradley an even cheaper alternative while keeping manufacturing it in the UK.
The rear doors were never fully fixed with an emergency hydraulic/piston opening to my knowledge; only the structural deficiencies found in the hinges from weight strain were mostly fixed. The weight & balancing is still a problem on the current model. Yes, Independent nations should try keep local defence manufacturing viable as much as possible; but not when it negatively affects both the manufacturers *and the users themselves* in the short and long term. (A ramp is preferred for ambulance versions of APCs, for example) The easiest comparison is Canada, which also used to have a large military industrial base, but it scaled back as the size of the military did. They previously chose the LAV family of APCs from a “Canadian” supplier, which in reality was initially just a licensed copy of the MOWAG Piranha. That smart decision NOT to build the much, much, more expensive locally-designed (pre-production) vehicle was a very quick choice by a military committee. A decision only possible after the politicians who had personal financial incentives to chose the other one were ousted from power. That decision has kept the Canadian military industrial base stronger in the long run, and viable into the next few decades at least. The same Canadian division also made a proposed “next generation” modification & upgrade program to the existing LAV family. It is the basis for the current Multi-Nation Stryker program with over 5,000 vehicles on order. All of the vehicles advancements, lessened costs, and now protected Can. Manufacturing would have been otherwise impossible. If the Canadian Gov’t had, over the Military’s objections, chosen to stay an “Independent Nation” and refused the multi-national cooperation route.
There was an improvement program in the works: WCSP. Was cancelled last year, then a month later all the issues Ajax was having were made public. Someone must have got a pretty big kickback pushing that cancellation when they did.
In my gamer opinion, the greatest downside of the warrior was the lack of turret stabilization, which mean there isn't a hunter/killer feature between the gunner and commander.
Interesting that the expectation for the armour was to withstand small arms - so slighty better than Little Willie! As ex REME pre Warrior I would be very interested in the 512 & 513's.
6:55. If an invasion of semi-intellegent hive mind aliens ever occurs, nations who did away with firing ports will sorely regret it😂. A short video on " Did firing ports/would firing ports/ would have firing ports ever make sense" would be interesting.
Really great video, It just make you wonder why the MOD went for Uhlan/ASCOD which was many years older than Warrior that seems to tick most of the AJAX boxes? And AJAX is so far behind schedule that David has to be spot on about Warrior getting a new lease of life. The CVR(T) series with Scimitar/Scorpion is over 60 years old, there are now soldiers serving on basically the same vehicles as their Fathers, much longer and it will be Grandfather´s. They don´t get the KF shirts though. But, you can only keep up with Challenger If it lets you, on real tank training ground I did a Troop Exercise with 6 Scimitars and only 1 was still driving after a week, the front sprockets got destroyed trying to follow Chieftain Tanks of the Royal Hussars, yes, that is how old I am! It looks as if the role of, ``Infantry Support´´has left the remit of the RAC and MBT´s as the Warrior seems to be capable of looking after its own guys, which is good as the Infantry has a history on not having a clue on how to deploy armour successfully. Not forgetting that you could get a lot on NLaw´s/ATGW in the back of those wagons. IHMO Boxer with Wheels is not suitable for a European Battlefield with Splinter Bombs getting dropped to shred your tyres?
A tracked version of Boxer was unveiled this year which has the same compatibility with the wheeled versions interchangeable modules. Another reason for the 'watch this space'.
Looking at the Warrior, it's as if they spent all the money on designing a superb chassis with good armour and mobility and then they used the leftover change to design a turret and gun. Why on earth did the army except an un- stabilised magazine fed gun.
Are u sure about the fuel tank location. I mean really sure. Because my memory of having to remove the turret to replace the fuel tank that’s under the commander and gunners footplate but not used the crews. It’s next to them beging the bV and under the turret cages.
I wouldn’t say it’s a new factory at Telford. I’m pretty sure it was a tarted up old 1900’s building.. Hadley castle works as it’s known had been expanded but I pretty sure they repurposed an old building to build these vehicles
Down side was the Rarden, clips of rounds loaded manually….1940s tech….cost cutting as always by the MOD, they managed to put an automatic on another countries vehicle though…never had any problems with chain gun however. 514, had MSTAR radar, that could be raised, Split doors on rear of hull for BCP version.
@@edwalmsley1401 L94A1 . Was originally designed by Hughes in the US. Like Rarden it didn't occupy huge amounts of space in the turret and vented all the gases from firing outside of the turret (and the spent cases). Really important given how toxic those gases can be...
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my favourite IFV
time for the boxer to get the straight line from 1980 and Falkland to 2022 Ukraine invasion covering 42 years of tank progress but also questioning when a tank is a tank. No tracks and being a tank is somehow feeling strange even though we had seen those for 85 years at least considering the Panzerspähwagen appeared before the Czech campaign
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Are bears catholic? Does the Pope sh1t in the woods? Of course we loved it!
The sunglasses really took Mr. Willey from a man who knows everything about tanks to a man who knows everything about tanks but also sells them.
Used tanks at that!
It also transformed David Willey into Mr. Fletcher apparently....
Give you a nice trade in on your Zafira. 5000 combat miles on the clock and the grunts have only been sick in the back twice.
"What will it take to get you into this beauty?"
*slaps Warrior* this baby can fit so many Jollies
I was half expecting David to take off his sunglasses only to show another pair of sunglasses underneath.
Or maybe just a glowing red eye!
Yyyeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhh
Lol
David Willey showing us a very interesting IFV and the DRIP
The DRIP, also known as "Dress Regimen for Infantry Purposes", the latest in MOD psychological warfare tactics
Props to Mr. Willey for standing outside in a suit during a heatwave for almost 20 minutes to give us our content.
Yeah .. hence the Thug Life Sunglasses
I believe it's 🥵🔥 HOT every damn where!
It's been 96+ degrees here in southeastern North Carolina since mid May. I am not exaggerating or lying, it went from our normal mild spring, because we really don't have a winter to scorching Hot, sometimes dry but most of the time Humid as the Amazon with the everyday temp being 96-100 & heat index of 110-115 almost every day since May 18th. Sad part is it won't stop or change until mid October when we start transitioning to our Fall/Spring season! Unless a Hurricane slams into us then we'll get a 2-3 day break from the heat but then we will be without power for 12-18 days, so it's not a winning combination anyway you go here!?!
@@vanguardactual1 yeah, it’s looking like a world wide heat wave! We’re sweltering here in Texas, around 108F every day. Can’t even catch any rain. One day it’s dry heat, the next humid, then back to dry. I don’t like this trend of every year getting noticeably hotter.
@@darkninjacorporation Yes exactly the same here. We went through a spell where we had little to no rain from late May until the last week of June then we had the normal pattern of afternoon T-storms that pop up from the heating of the day. Then around mid-July, maybe 2nd week in, it reverted right back to extreme heat with on & off Humidity & NO rain. Every once in a while, a storm will crop up, but it will die out or literally split into & bypass us! Almost like it is programmed. Such a Hot, miserable Summer here in southeastern NC this year. What you said is absolutely true as well, our Summers are getting worse & longer & what "Winter" we used to have been pretty much gone nowadays. Our seasons go from Hot=Summer till usually mid Oct then we transition into Fall for the mild "old winter" from late Dec to late Feb. Which honestly is more like a Fall/Spring season that last until late April early May sometimes late May but not this year!
I would of accepted the same performance in short shorts and a wife-beater.
I joined the army because I wanted to be armoured infantry, I wanted so badly to jump out the back of a Warrior. Went to depot got told that I'd be joining an armoured infantry battalion, my dream had come true. Joined the battalion after finishing training and they re-roled to light role infantry, typical.
A guy I met at the German recruitment assessment center wanted to become a helicopter pilot and ended up as Jäger (Light Infantry) 🤷🏻♂️
Lol that happens so often it becomes a habit.
Trust me you didn’t miss anything apart from track bashing and other maintenance tasks and impetigo caused by exposure to oil mineral detergent.
I joined looking to play with I.T. as a Scaley Back. Ended up making things explode into teeny tiny little pieces as a Sapper...
@@erikgood732 Impetigo is spread by sharing ablutions with a minger.
The cancellation of Warrior 2 is a real shame, the MoD is going to regret it.
Spent 8 years on warrior. Starting as a dismount in the back. Then onto driver before going to gunner. Best job I had in the infantry.
Tanks for you service.
Well done Fellow Grunt!
Mafia city moment.
I was in Fallingbostel when we were the first armoured infantry regiment to receive them. Going from a 432 to one of these was like swopping a Lada to a Mercedes I absolutely loved driving one of these the first ones had a see through fuel tank .it made a lot of the guys suffer from sea sickness .
I was a very young Rfn in the early-80s and remember our C/Sgt coming back from an exhibition with pictures of the brand new MCV80. It seemed a world away from the 432.
1st Battalion Grenadier Guards, Munster 1987.
They were painted pretty quickly. The smell in the turret would be terrible 😂😂😂 I drive/gunned and commanded one way back in 1990 to 95. Fantastic bit of kit, wouldn’t be alive today if not for this vehicle.
Looking forward to picking up my war surplus Warrior soon...need something for running around town in (live in Chicago).
😂🤣👍
Funny and serious at the same time, nice one and stay safe.
You need a AFV for any Democrat run city
@@lonewolfandcub668 Damn the Democrat and their Warrior-necessary city?
Perhaps you need something a bit bigger like a mbt
I was armoured infantry form 92 - 97 and spent some time as a Warrior driver in Germany, BATUS and Bosnia. The vehicle commander never dismounted with the section there's no way he could have collapsed the seat and opened the turret cage and got out of the turret in time to command a section attack. The section of seven would be commanded by an JNCO or a senior private soldier split in to two fire teams. Charlie fire team would have four men including the Section commander and Delta fire team of three man.
Great video! Worked on the hull at MVEE in the 80s looking to sort some corrosion issues
When I grow up, I want to be as cool as Mr. David Willey
Good video. I remember stories at the time that the hinges holding the back door on were too weak to begin with. Resulting in the doors falling off at times until the problem was fixed.
Still better than Ajax.
Thank you Tank Museum, for a Fantastic Tankfest 2022, and for our return visit 5 days ago , where we were very fortunate and honoured to meet the Archive team along with small exhibits curator.. Brilliant and super helpful.!! and now this evening to watch and learn all about the Warrior, the icing on the cake.. Thank you for a very memorable few weeks.. See you soonest , ATVB to one and all. Scott ,Somerset
Nothing about the myriad dramas we had on the dire Chain Gun? I was still going to breech explosions in 2007! The bloke who was the Desk Officer from inception resigned after 15 years fighting it. The record was 14 Breech Explosions in 10 days. But the truck itself is Blinding! Tough, useable, reliable, fast. IF they ever replace it it will have to be some truck!
Yeah and the unstabilised RARDEN was also something that really should have been replaced/upgraded years ago
Talking about the stopping ability - I was working next to the A303 when a tourist slowed dramatically to gawp at Stonehenge. Suffice to say they were very lucky that the Warrior was able to stop suddenly from 30-40mph, nose into the tarmac and with a fair bit of squealing (and presumably swearing). Presumably the tourists stopped at the next services to change underwear...
Last week I followed a Warrior along the roads in the Bovington area and saw one of the Challenger driver training vehicles.
UK. We are one of the few places in the World where a busy A-road would be tolerated next to something like Stonehenge; though it would certainly be done differently today. Then there are the Giza slums camel spitting range from The Pyramids I suppose 🐪
@@Twirlyhead The A303 was there first. How do you think they got the stones there? Why build a henge if you're not going to show it off to travellers?
@@Skorpychan tee hee 😏
@@Skorpychan True the A303 is one of the oldest roads in the UK !
The Warrior has been a fantastic machine throughout its life.
Those sunglasses are EPIC. 😎
AFAIK the idea of the vehicle commander dismounting with the infantry was scrapped because it was too awkward for him to get out of the turret via the troop compartment. There was also a spate of accidents where Warrior commanders got bits of their anatomy crushed in the turret mechanism, which may have contributed to this change.
My uncle did some work on Warriors in the context of designing simulators for them, and I remember that he wasn't very impressed by the design of the turret. That was an engineer's perspective, not a soldier's though. There were persistent problems with the 7.62mm Chain Gun jamming (ironic, since low stoppage rate is supposed to be a strong point of an externally powered weapon). IIRC, these were traced to the fact that the turret design had the belt hanging loose instead of supported, and the Chain Gun's feed mechanism didn't have the power to lift it consistently.
Wahay Dave, cool shades! 😎😎😎
A cool tank reviewed by a cool dude! 😄👍
Really great. I had not seen a Warrior up close. Thank you !
Great video. Loved the fact about the dummy gun, was told with Soviet armored vehicles to look for vehicles with extra aerials to target because they are command units.
Loving the shades 😎 very cool! Awesome tank chat as always 🤙🏻
Rocking the sun glasses! If they aren't also serving as a Heads Up Display then I am extremely impressed with your off-the-cuff ability to remember all this data.
Watching these bug out at full throttle on the Saltau was a sight to behold.
Awesome piece of kit. Had the Black Watch as 'enemy' on Saltau in 89. Watching the warrior bug out at high speed in reverse was quite a sight.
A very well presented video David and filled with interesting facts on the development of the Warrior.
Again, thanks for the excellent information flow and keep them coming.
Will the Warrior that saved the Life of Johnson Beharry VC, Be added to the Bovington Collection? The Next Generation of British Tank Armour ought to be named "Don't Worry, Beharry" in his Honour :)
Not forgetting the chemical toilet in the back and there's storage against the turret cage
One of the coolest looking fighting vehicles.
Spent many years teaching D&M on Warrior, loved it. Sad to see her go out of service.
The Warrior is an absolute beast. Easily my favourite vehicle to drive and really easy to maintain 👌🏻. It will be a real shame when it does go out of service. Great Tank Chat as always. Keep up the fantastic work!
But then on the surplus market? That will be sweet
Obsolete u mean, no stabilizer and no magazine fed lol
@@kannan159 It's not always the advertised features of an IFV which make it a good vehicle. You could have the best IFV in the world on paper but if the maintenance is difficult and it spends most of the time out of the fight, is it any good?
The same goes for comfortability and ease of use. If the vehicle is uncomfortable and difficult to use, then the crew wont be able to utilize the platform efficiently.
@@XboxBruka Yeah but other ifvs around the world are easier to maintain and provide good comfortablity aswel there is nothing other ifvs dont have that warrior does, its just warrior doesnt have something as basic as a stabilizer , i really dont know how it entered service.
@@kannan159 Easier than a warrior to maintain, wow! How many IFVs have you had the pleasure of working on?
11/10! Everytime. Thank you from Australia.
Superb piece of kit
I remember as a young officer having a ride in MCV80. Very impressive.
Looking cool mate. Facts impeccable as always. Sharp.
Mr Willey rocking the shades! Hard core! Love it...
thanks for the informative talk, david - please give fin a pat on the head for me, cheers
They came in when I was in CVRT they where impressive I wouldn’t get rid of them now and upgrade them
They are thoroughly obsolescent by now with little room to upgrade them further, unfortunately.
@@DerLoladin You do know they have just finished, then cancelled, the Warrior CSP programme that completely modernised them....screwed up totally by Lockheed Martin, but did eventually deliver a decent upgrade and good turret, but the MoD lost patience...
@@DerLoladin the turret when firing cracked the Hull. It's almost like it was designed for a 30mm turret. It needs replacing desperately.
@@dogsnads5634 It didn't modernize them. The CSP program was, by its own name, a mere lifetime extension to save money on a vehicle that desperately needed replacing. Slapping a new turret (which lacked missile capabilities iirc) and gun on a throughly outdated hull is the equivalent of riding in an M51 Sherman in the age of Centurion and M48 - I know which one I'd much rather be in.
@@syscoord195 Because they were not willing to do proper hull and ring restoration. British weapons procurement is a farce. Corruption is rife.
You really are very tall ! Great Tiger Day yesterday 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧
When you're presenting a tank chat but also have a rap battle afterwards
Great presentation on the British infantry infantryman 's battle field taxi .
They presumably thought chobham armor would work because for the weight its more effective than conventional armor but its a lot more expensive, so it was probably dropped from the production vehicles because of that.
Idea was the base vehicle didnt need the armour protection as it might be doing rear line duties or low intensity conflicts like peacekeeping but you could simply slot on the extra armour when required.
Worked with these vehicles as a dismount in 2003 on OP Telic.......got really found of them.
Bit dusty when doing top cover out of the mortar hatches on the roof😀😀😀😀
give this man a black suit to go with those sunglasses and we could have "Tank Chats featuring Elwood Blues!"
Very "Blues Brothers". Like it.
It's D.B.Cooper! Grab him before he hijacks that IFV!
Love the 90s movie "Warriors". I always feel like the Warrior is a bit of a forgotten "hero" of the IFV world.
Sunglasses make the narrator cool AF. Ngl
Got the DVD. Superb film.
@@AtheistOrphan me too. Great movie.
Nice shades old chap. Cheers for the vid.
Very dashing. The IFV and the shades.
Looks like a nice, sunny day in Bovington...............
Great video as always!
Very interesting. My son is a REME Captain, and about to command LAD for a regiment equipped with FV510. I assume the 512/513 will continue when any wheeled replacement is introduced. The Tank Museum Shop kit is very good (Meng) but I recommend adding the Accurate Armour brass bar armour etches instead of the plastic ones.
A great piece of kit.
Thanks for a new Tank Chat!
British arms procurement is chaotic
It's full of political corruption
Thanks.
Love the glasses!!
Best vehicle in the British Army. I loved working on and crewing warrior.
I don't understand why the warrior didn't get a stabiliser for the gun. I think that's all its missing.
Because it wouldn't fit and isn't really needed if you're firing from a stationary overwatch position.
Its not a tank.
I really miss seeing tanks, AFV's, 'planes. Used to see (proper) 'planes every week, nowadays, it's not even once a year. Catterick's walking distance & I've not seen a 'green car' in many years. The reduction in numbers seems astonishing.
Worrying how the political traitors of every colour have sacrificed the defence of this nation and out NATO obligations.
Always loved the warriors
David Willey sings for the Blues Brothers on the side.
I was the commander of the only remaining WCSP Warrior 2 prototype you now have at the museum. Great loss to our military in my opinion. 43KG35.
Seriously the only thing this video was missing is Finn. I bought his puppet for a friend of mine's young daughter and she loves talking to the Finn puppet.
Love the shades ....
Gosh that chat ended with an elaborate evasion of the Ajax balls up.
Gotta say the gentleman is absolutely rocking those sunglasses. Looks like santa claus meets top gun, 10/10
This Man is a Legend I love his Acting his Voice and the Entire Video. I see the Warrior Fighting in Afgahnistan was crazy cause he is like the Chally 2 a very underrated Tank (IFV) But as same as the Chally 2 the Only Vehicle not become destroyed from Enemy Fire. The Warrior was one of the Strongest Help in Afgahnistan in My Opinion more than the Abrams was. But no Stabilazer mhm but anyway the Crew who fight with the IFV dindt need this Haha. I love the Chally 2 I love the Warriors. In My Opinion one of the Best in his Times. Great Tank Chat go on.
I didn't know that Joe Cool was so knowledgeable regarding tanks.
Look at David and his Bad Self!
Sadly, MOD Chertsey is no more. It was responsible for many innovations in armoured vehicle design, including 'Chobham' armour. Hopefully, the archive has survived and conserved by The Tank Museum.
I’m a retired US Army Infantryman and I’ve seen firsthand how effective that armor is, it’s mine bending how well it works! During the Gulf War our M1 Abrams got hit with Iraqi sabot rounds and they just stick a little into the armor and we used them as foot pegs to get onto the turret for the remained of the deployment! Great British invention!
Failed,to mention that the British also invented the steam catapult we use on our aircraft carriers even today.
Great video David but now I can only think of Billy Joel 😎 love the sunglasses sir!
I still remember the 1999 BBC TV movie "Warriors"...
to many commercial to appreciate video from tank museum
Really cool shades and setting! Looks like he is selling tanks.
I find it interesting that they didn't mention the MILAN and MILAN 2 missiles these things would occasionally carry to deal with heavier armor. Great video though! This might be my favorite IFV.
They wasnt used that often on the warrior m8 , i dont think the milan was all that effctive when mounted on the warrior i believe it was pretty akward to use on the warrior. Or so i was told when i was in milan platoon. Warrior a great bit of kit spent a lot of time sitting in the back off one in iraq.
I served on warrior through the nineties, Muster Germany . we had law 90's in the back, no milan! law 90 has gone, we now have NLAW. you can fit 8 NLAWS in the infantry compartment, When the backseaters went out the door they'd take a couple of em with them .
Looking at the books 110 or just over a 5th of the Infantry carriers were configured for carrying ATGM teams (Milan and Javelin) there was also a Desert Storm field modification to externally mount Milan performed on an unknown number of vehicles but it doesnt look to have stuck around after the conflict. The Kuwati's mounted a couple of TOW on theirs which they bought after the Gulf War.
In the first gulf war they sent the Warriors against Iraqi positions in twos. One had an infantry section on board, the other one was filled with LAW94s (no one called them LAW90s). They would stop, debus, grab as many LAWs as needed from the other Warrior and start twatting the Iraqi sangars with rockets and cannon fire. If they still didn't surrender after that the lads pepper potted forwards with fixed bayonets and lobbed phos grenades in. The Staffords had an embedded photographer with them who filmed it all.
@@zoiders Is that video findable? Wouldn't mind seeing that.
I remember watching a documentary way back about the warrior that had not yet come into service.
It was a BBC doc and as usual very anti British where it had got an anonymous high ranking British officer who wanted the Bradley, among other things he moaned about the rear doors of the warrior and stated it would be easier and cheaper to buy off the shelf. That didn't age well.
The I watched that old doc too, and it is not anti-British. The basic scales of economy were in the Bradley’s favour ( *Just like the F-35 today* ), and being interoperable in future multi-national coalition wars was seen as imperative as the armed forces shrunk.
It’s the same story as pre-WW2. Everything was cheaper through axle because kit was also adopted by the Empire. There’s no empire now though, and everyone else was either buying off-the-shelf American, or still using American parts on their version.
Following down those same footsteps, while keeping British manufacturing partners going would have been cheaper in the long run. Especially, now that we know how many deep cuts the army has taken over the past +30yrs, and how many more funding cuts they will have to endure for the next decade too.
@@cjwrench07 I don't remember the emphasis being so much about cost but more to do with the quality of the vehicles in particular one concern was the doors at the rear and that because there was no hydraulics to open the doors, ( I don't know if this was corrected since) that if the vehicle was stuck nose down in a ditch soldiers would be unable to open the doors due to weight. Of course scale of production does come into play but an independent country should not give up manufacturing skills for the sake of price, also although it was long ago I felt the arguments against the warrior program were not strong enough to cancel it and seemed very anti home grown industry.
@@jac627 there was some emphasis on costs. The worry of relying on a sole contractor, building a brand new multi-variant vehicle, meant cost overruns couldn’t be eaten up by the company, so by extension *only* British Taxpayers would have to cover them regardless. Not multiple nations in the case of cooperation.
On the other hand, fhe Bradley would Abe been subsidized by a much larger order volume; meaning less cost per-vehicle with any overruns. Also a British defence company would have been given local production, heavy & light maintenance, and out-of-nation upgrade/repair rights. Thus making the Bradley an even cheaper alternative while keeping manufacturing it in the UK.
The rear doors were never fully fixed with an emergency hydraulic/piston opening to my knowledge; only the structural deficiencies found in the hinges from weight strain were mostly fixed. The weight & balancing is still a problem on the current model.
Yes, Independent nations should try keep local defence manufacturing viable as much as possible; but not when it negatively affects both the manufacturers *and the users themselves* in the short and long term. (A ramp is preferred for ambulance versions of APCs, for example)
The easiest comparison is Canada, which also used to have a large military industrial base, but it scaled back as the size of the military did.
They previously chose the LAV family of APCs from a “Canadian” supplier, which in reality was initially just a licensed copy of the MOWAG Piranha. That smart decision NOT to build the much, much, more expensive locally-designed (pre-production) vehicle was a very quick choice by a military committee. A decision only possible after the politicians who had personal financial incentives to chose the other one were ousted from power.
That decision has kept the Canadian military industrial base stronger in the long run, and viable into the next few decades at least.
The same Canadian division also made a proposed “next generation” modification & upgrade program to the existing LAV family. It is the basis for the current Multi-Nation Stryker program with over 5,000 vehicles on order.
All of the vehicles advancements, lessened costs, and now protected Can. Manufacturing would have been otherwise impossible. If the Canadian Gov’t had, over the Military’s objections, chosen to stay an “Independent Nation” and refused the multi-national cooperation route.
Judging by the problems it's replacement is having, this old guy is looking at another upgrade.
There was an improvement program in the works: WCSP. Was cancelled last year, then a month later all the issues Ajax was having were made public. Someone must have got a pretty big kickback pushing that cancellation when they did.
Look at Willy just rocking those sunglasses like he's some kind of Billy Badass
The stoppie can't be fun for the infantry in the back.
Interesting!
In my gamer opinion, the greatest downside of the warrior was the lack of turret stabilization, which mean there isn't a hunter/killer feature between the gunner and commander.
I cannot imagine what it was like wearing NBCW kit inside that thing 😳
Interesting that the expectation for the armour was to withstand small arms - so slighty better than Little Willie! As ex REME pre Warrior I would be very interested in the 512 & 513's.
Just a better helmet. Like my m113 in 1991🤭
Still do not get the logic of going from a tracked MICV back to something without the supporting fire power in the form of Boxer.
Superb vehicle
6:55. If an invasion of semi-intellegent hive mind aliens ever occurs, nations who did away with firing ports will sorely regret it😂. A short video on " Did firing ports/would firing ports/ would have firing ports ever make sense" would be interesting.
Really great video, It just make you wonder why the MOD went for Uhlan/ASCOD which was many years older than Warrior that seems to tick most of the AJAX boxes?
And AJAX is so far behind schedule that David has to be spot on about Warrior getting a new lease of life.
The CVR(T) series with Scimitar/Scorpion is over 60 years old, there are now soldiers serving on basically the same vehicles as their Fathers, much longer and it will be Grandfather´s.
They don´t get the KF shirts though.
But, you can only keep up with Challenger If it lets you, on real tank training ground I did a Troop Exercise with 6 Scimitars and only 1 was still driving after a week, the front sprockets got destroyed trying to follow Chieftain Tanks of the Royal Hussars, yes, that is how old I am!
It looks as if the role of, ``Infantry Support´´has left the remit of the RAC and MBT´s as the Warrior seems to be capable of looking after its own guys, which is good as the Infantry has a history on not having a clue on how to deploy armour successfully.
Not forgetting that you could get a lot on NLaw´s/ATGW in the back of those wagons.
IHMO Boxer with Wheels is not suitable for a European Battlefield with Splinter Bombs getting dropped to shred your tyres?
A tracked version of Boxer was unveiled this year which has the same compatibility with the wheeled versions interchangeable modules. Another reason for the 'watch this space'.
I was born in Chertsey, my grandad was a Chobhamite 😉
Looking at the Warrior, it's as if they spent all the money on designing a superb chassis with good armour and mobility and then they used the leftover change to design a turret and gun. Why on earth did the army except an un- stabilised magazine fed gun.
It’s not magazine fed it’s 3 Rnd clips .
It wasn't intended to fire on the move - therefore a stabiliser was unnecessary.
Its not a tank.
Are u sure about the fuel tank location. I mean really sure. Because my memory of having to remove the turret to replace the fuel tank that’s under the commander and gunners footplate but not used the crews. It’s next to them beging the bV and under the turret cages.
Nice shades, David! i thought I'd stumbled upon a "thug life" video! 🤣
Light tank and infinatry vehicles to support assault and defesne. Nice model in this world.
I wouldn’t say it’s a new factory at Telford. I’m pretty sure it was a tarted up old 1900’s building.. Hadley castle works as it’s known had been expanded but I pretty sure they repurposed an old building to build these vehicles
Hey!
Mr Wiley cool dude!
So Warrior will replace Ajax :)
Down side was the Rarden, clips of rounds loaded manually….1940s tech….cost cutting as always by the MOD, they managed to put an automatic on another countries vehicle though…never had any problems with chain gun however. 514, had MSTAR radar, that could be raised, Split doors on rear of hull for BCP version.
And not stabilised
@@michaelmulligan0 yeah and that! 👌🏻👍🏻
What model is this "chain gun " dude ?
@@edwalmsley1401 L94A1 . Was originally designed by Hughes in the US. Like Rarden it didn't occupy huge amounts of space in the turret and vented all the gases from firing outside of the turret (and the spent cases). Really important given how toxic those gases can be...
You may be cool, but you will never be as cool as David Willey standing in front of a Warrior AFV wearing RayBans.