Religion wise Split is more important for India. We already lost 1/3rd of India land to Pakistan and Bangladesh when Muslim population reached 35% in Pre partition India
@@KrishnaKaliyuga You have to be careful Krishna, think you seeing things in a very wrong way. Having a too big population is putting massive strain on Indian water supply. This is a problem trying feed over a billion people now living in India. Even if you still had Pakistan that will not help you other parts of India where the farmers are worried that old water supply is being used up.
China predicted decades ago that an uncontrolled population has huge consequences on pollution, overcrowding, water, food security, education and quality of life that it implemented population control policies. China has roughly 7% of the world's fresh water. India only has 4%. As China industrialized, it went from a net exporter of agriculture to an net importer. All the problems China faced will be India's problems and more. It appears that India will peak at 1.8-2 billion and create a future ticking time bomb of demographics in the future. The only benefit is more low cost labourers if that is even an advantage as it relegates your population to the low income trap. Not even the middle income trap. Chinas GDP per capita is now $13k USD. India is below $3k USD. What do we expect 1.8 billion Indians to have a per capita of only $15k USD as an maximum? It will forever be a low income trap let alone the middle income trap
Dalai Lama is American CIA agent ... Tibetan CIA Program 1960-1975 As stated by Palden Wangyal, a veteran guerrilla fighter, the rebels were directly paid by the Americans to attack Chinese government facilities and installations in Tibet: "Our soldiers attacked Chinese trucks and seized some documents of the Chinese government. After that, the Americans increased our pay scale". The Dalai Lama criticized this decision, saying it proved wholeheartedly that the US never did it to help the people of Tibet. International lobbying The 14th Dalai Lama was financially supported by the CIA between the late 1950s and the mid-1970s, receiving $180,000 a year. The funds were paid to him personally, although he used most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities such as funding foreign offices to lobby for international support. The Dalai Lama sought asylum in India, but the issues regarding Tibet and China received substantial attention from the press. Many protests erupted in response to the political conflicts between Tibet and China in countries including Burma, Pakistan, and Japan (and many more). Although the Dalai Lama's pleas proved to be less effective with the passing of time, his office in New York did not cease to lobby several U.N. delegations for the Tibetan cause. Also, the Dalai Lama was aided by a former U.S. delegate to the U.N. Criticism In his 1991 autobiography Freedom in Exile, the 14th Dalai Lama criticized the CIA for supporting the Tibetan independence movement "not because they (the CIA) cared about Tibetan independence, but as part of their worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments". In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming "once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help ... The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans."
@@Harsh-rf9k first time I heard this line was back in 2014 before election results came out, from a guy who was an economist/analyst giving interview to Bloomberg. It is not only true but I have realized; it is a fact.
Internal migration is already on. My district is in Andhra and its a dry one. Even here, i am started seeing people from Bihar and UP. They are here for permanent settlement.
Same is case with Haryana as well. Half the population of my city is from UP and Bihar. Those who had migrated in 2000s are doing good on socio-economic indicators. And tbh, Haryana needs migrant labors because migrant families are more productive than local ones. Almost 90% of labor force is made of migrants and women participation is quite high as well. You will hardly find any local working women except as teachers.
Having a big population is not important.Having a population who can self support themselves and their family is more important since that will add value to the society and economy as a whole.Having more population which thrives on subsidy and govt support will just add to numbers and not to the economy and GDP of the country.
So only Bangla Islamists are to be allowed in India! Bengali logic: any Islamist is local of Bengal, every practicing Sanatani is. Bohirgato😊, terrorist, Communal mouth.
It won't - they have too many non working mouths to feed. An economy runs by consumers & producers - both of working age, which is the lowest in China in all of its history. All nations with fertility less than 2 will DIE.
I don't know how he twisted it as "racism". The average Chinese worker is more productive than the average Indian worker. Most Indians don't even work in the formal sector and very few actually pay taxes to the government. In other words the Indian government gains very little from this population growth because it simply cannot reap the rewards of this growing work force unless it moves India away from farming and informal work towards heavy industry and the modern digitised economy. Fewer women are in the workforce than before which means a large percentage of India's workers are wasting away and it's being squandered. If this keeps going on then India will not be able to reap its demographic dividend and rather than an asset these people become a burden that the state cannot support.
Hope that China delivers a few artillery shells to Putin and the sanctions would wipe off another 5-10 years of their remaining demographic advantage.😛
What Chinese spokesperson said about quality of population I feel he meant that the education, health and skills level of an average Chinese is better than an average Indian. I don’t think we can argue with that reality as the HR quality of two countries is readily available.
One negative side of the population growth in India which you haven't referred to is that low per capita income of India, inspite of growing economy. We are still behind even smaller European countries such as Georgia or Moldavia.
As Sanjeev Sanyal has presented in his excellent research paper recently our count of Women LFP is very inaccurately counted as the metrics used by UN are very western in concept.. Our data does not account for women participation in agricultural for eg. which is actually very high.. China may well be ahead of us but our LFP is higher than 40 for sure
Indian labour force participation in 'organized business' is 40%. Not total labour force participation. Please understand the difference. India has alot of unorganised labour participation which isn't accounted for in surveys
Germany gave vocational training in small jobs even baking etc to make a great productive pop. India sis not investing there instead creating white collar jobs for which u need money to invest which most families don't have.
@@0609Bhuwan doesnt matter we are still not close to quality of life chinese have now a days.i dont think we are reaching there in 10 to 20 years.anyway machines are taking over the work less people are required.
@@tarunshroti3255 Precisely. Don't now why the West are blowing smoke up their @ss. China has won the global race. Even if India tried to compete, China already got their first and is currently favored by the global South. India won't be leading the Globe anytime soon. They still need to resolve their slum situation
@siddharthsriram2685 and still Keralites move to Bengaluru, Mangaluru and Chennai in large numbers, also to Gulf nation's 😂 if Kerala was so great, wouldn't they stay?
If the comment by the Chinese minister is looked objectively rather than from a racial context - what he is implying is that only the size of the population doesn’t matter, but how that population is able to contribute to the nation is what matters. In the context of this video as well - the population of all current emerging economies will start to reduce going forward, means the dependence on efficiency of numbers rather than the numbers itself will begin to matter. This means the focus in India has to be on how we can take the population dividend and give it the right opportunities so that it has a multiplier effect - big population, efficiently deployed-> strides in growth. So I completely disagree with Shekhar and the team that the remarks from the Chinese should be dismissed as purely racially motivated.
Shekhar-ji, population-growth is always scary for India being extremely overpopulated. Irony is poor-states has high-birth rate while politicians are busy in caste/religion politics. Indian fertility-rate may fall faster in coming decades due to: 1. High-cost of living, education, 2. More women joining workforce, 3. Water-scarcity, climate issues, 4. Preference for alternate-lifestyles.
@@mohitanand1844 indeed. It’s substantially cultural. Research across culture on children ( if I recall correctly) has suggested similar empathy tendencies early on across population groups.
Population must be properly managed by citizen , government ,media ,un, international organisation ,civil society, private and public body, companies, corporations, religious leaders.....in holistic and real way..to achieve global goals of development.....❤❤👍👍
Don't know about why people produce like rabbits. But in my village near Noida, a particular community vowed to produce more because Yogi defeated akhilesh in elections.
@@motei1853 that other community is already more than 50% in Kerala you dumb fuck , the only community who is producing like rats is the “peaceful”community !
India will be hindu majority , muslim TFR not very much high and they are only 14 percent of indian population they become majority is mathematical impossibility
Let us be honest, no country is jealous of India having so many people. Don't think it is a good thing. Let us not be so delusional. Imagine India increasing it's per capita by 5 times. It will mean 5 times the resource consumption. This will deplete our natural resources even further. Combine that with 17 crore more people (10 Delhis). Imagine the pressure on resources.
If you per capita increases then it will increase in dollers. That means more rupee would become stronger. But the GDP ( PPP ) won't change much. So nope, it won't strain our resources that much
@@tamobiswas6083 Okay, so if more Indians will buy cars, take flights, travel abroad, use more air conditioning, will that not mean more electricity/ resource consumption ?
@@tapanthakur if more indians use cars then that would imply more oil imports ( of if electric cars then more electricity consumption ). India has enough renewable untapped energy sources to provide that. India doesn't even have enough nuclear plants now. They can easily build more nuclear plants in fleet mode. Same can be told for other items too. It won't strain 'indian resources' as such since the items are mostly imported from other countries.
@@tamobiswas6083 How will we tap our untapped renewable resources ? Solar Panels need metals and have a 25 year life. Where will you dump billions of solar panels and theor batteries? Whst about hydroelectric projects, this takes acres of area and affects tens of kilometers of area. Nuclear power plsnts - do you know waste is being buried under sea bed and will be there for tens of thousands of years. It can pollute land. You need land yo grow food. The only way is to try and reduce population and hence burden on resources.
I disagree with SG. As much as he try to sugarcoat it, India's population is a liability. Chinese FM's comment is neither racist nor wrong. Their quality of population is great and productive, unlike ours. Population collapse is only way India can move forward.
I think a follow up detailed episode - which talks about how India can leverage its young workforce effectively - is due! Pak and Nigeria are two great examples of what happens when the policies do not keep up with population growth! Second, there is a good possibility that Indians might serve as viable replacement in countries like South Korea, Baltic nations and dozen others which are suffering from a dire shortage of the necessary workforce to support their economies - and such migrations can drastically skew these projections.
If you think South korea and the Baltic States will allow Indians to replace them you are deluded 😂 They are some of the most racist countries in the world
We are only talking numbers and compare ourselves with China only when convenient. The quality of life, infrastructure, health services, education which China is giving to its Citizens is something India can't even think of . Simply numbers are not enough. We should have the means to make productive use of the numbers. China's politicians and thinkers are trying to get a status ahead of the most developed nations. Our ruling party is busy rewriting history and people are happily following. Its obvious that ,even respected news outlets like Print are of late treading very carefully and very guarded on what they write or say.
Chinese politics runs on a different course than India. It gave them quick economic growth but the same system can also come up with the cultural revolution and one child policy. What India has is a product of our own political system. It has its own pluses and minuses but expecting the best of both systems while trying to avoid the negatives of both is not how it works sadly.
One heat wave, one crop failure and we will get the taste of what actual helplessness is and people like Guptaji would be looking to blame someone then. China is a bright spot in future where people will inherit houses/wealth from their parents and would enjoy a good life. Indians would be working to death in competition with each other with too much pollution and no quality of life.
Sorry Shekhar, I am rather irked by your assessment of "quality of population" remark of Chinese representative. They may well have not so great quality of population due to their repressive policies but we are no better either and frankly, we are deteriorating much faster than any other "quality of population" considering the social changes unleashed we see around us these days.
Growing population is never a challenge in India, the real challenge is high density of population living in a very small area mainly in and around big cities.
But also big opportunities if handled well. Every country that developed did it on the back of a demographic dividend. I've noticed a lot of Indians seem to think large population is bad because of "resources". But this is outdated and incorrect Malthusian thinking. The biggest and most important resource is PEOPLE. Meiji Japan managed to develop into a great power in 3 decades without any natural resources. They illustrate this point and would be a great example for Indians to study. They accomplished this from the 1860s to 1900 through centralization of domestic power and radical openness to other countries. The number one goal of the Indian government right now should be to raise the labor participation rate and employ people in a low skill industry like textiles. This is how China utilized its massive demographic dividend in the 90s and early 2000s. China and Vietnam are other countries that very recently went through similar stages of development that India should also study. Land acquisition reform and agricultural reform and more important than any talk of semiconductors or aerospace. Its the nuts and bolts that matter.
@@shaggybeckham9605 No. Indians, especially Hindus are not reproducing fast enough. We need to increase the growth rate of Hindus in this country. We need reproductive quotas as soon as possible.
Is it very unpopular & unsafe to make a cut the clutter on the allegations about Pulwama attack on Modi govt made by Satyapal Malik, ex Governor of J&K? It seems very easy to mock Rahul Gandhi, criticize previous govt policies. But such an important & cluttered issue is going under the RADAR of Shekhar Gupta is not very pleasant.
Census will happen only after 2024 elections. Govt doesn't want to do the caste census and also doesn't want to provoke nrc, npr thing before elections.
Indians are confident of handling population growth under democracy but signals in governence are doubtful and trust deficit of all institutions parliament, judiciary, executive and media. aha ram!
I went to college with a lot of Nigerians in the Boston area. Most of them are still in the US.. primarily in the medical or biotech industries today as Physicians, Scientists, Nurses and Technicians. A few did go back to Nigeria to practice there. The ones still in the US moved to other parts of the country, own nice houses and have raised kids that are now top students while also playing competitive high school sports. My sense is that they are probably one of the most successful groups migrating to the US from Africa.
It's hillarious when I hear people talking about 2100 and the population levels then when we are not even sure what will happen by 2060 with the climate havoc we are facing.
Tibetan CIA Program 1960-1975 As stated by Palden Wangyal, a veteran guerrilla fighter, the rebels were directly paid by the Americans to attack Chinese government facilities and installations in Tibet: "Our soldiers attacked Chinese trucks and seized some documents of the Chinese government. After that, the Americans increased our pay scale". The Dalai Lama criticized this decision, saying it proved wholeheartedly that the US never did it to help the people of Tibet. International lobbying The 14th Dalai Lama was financially supported by the CIA between the late 1950s and the mid-1970s, receiving $180,000 a year. The funds were paid to him personally, although he used most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities such as funding foreign offices to lobby for international support. The Dalai Lama sought asylum in India, but the issues regarding Tibet and China received substantial attention from the press. Many protests erupted in response to the political conflicts between Tibet and China in countries including Burma, Pakistan, and Japan (and many more). Although the Dalai Lama's pleas proved to be less effective with the passing of time, his office in New York did not cease to lobby several U.N. delegations for the Tibetan cause. Also, the Dalai Lama was aided by a former U.S. delegate to the U.N. Criticism In his 1991 autobiography Freedom in Exile, the 14th Dalai Lama criticized the CIA for supporting the Tibetan independence movement "not because they (the CIA) cared about Tibetan independence, but as part of their worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments". In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming "once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help ... The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans."
Trees 10 per person Cold storage cooling industries 0 carbon 60% ethanol 100% ethanol Cloud seeding rain Etc etc measures Ev renewable very important Petrol diesel should be phased out
It's fascinating to note that humankind started with (and in) Africa, it will end there as well since in 100 years, most of the youngsters will be found only there!
During 2000s there was a saying among so called intelluctual and economist while comparing India and China....India has democracy and demography...Now China is far far ahead of India. Democracy loose Autocracy WINS!!
The West showered China with investment and technology transfer (which they are regretting now), which is why China advanced. No one is doing that to India. Not only that, the West does not want another high-population country growing like China, so they are causing all sorts of disruptions in India through NGOs.
Demographic dividend can become a 'demographic nightmare' as the unemployment rate in India is at an all time high, and women participation in labor is in decline! India cannot take advantage of this workforce if the Modi government continues to fail even providing Modi's infamous 'pakoda employment'?
I just don't get the hype of so called demographic dividend. China reached the replacement levels in late 1980s and it's economy literally continued on 10 percent growth path for next 20 years more. All due to globalization which was at its peak, trade was booming. It was the high time of optimism that finally developing countries can become rich and catch up. Now, the time is totally marked by geopolitical differences, protectionism is on rise, technology is not anything to be shared. Just think of the complexity of countries like Bangladesh, india and other countries whereby the new path is fraught with lot of fragility. All the future industries are dominated by few industrialised countries. China dominates the green tech revolution, US dominates semiconductors etc. It's not the time whereby countries have the patience to become sweatshops for products of developed countries. I mean China literally gobbled up the whole manufacturing which could have provided the respite to poor countries to earn valuable dollars. All the shit talking about decoupling is basically Chinese moving up the value chain and are literally on par with US and Japan, Korea and europe on many key technologies. All they r doing is leaving their assembly operations to other countries without giving them the chance to add value to the assembled products. In the age of AI, potentially so called demographic dividend remains to be seen. India shall always remain with a thriving 100 millions working on great projects and living comfortable lifestyle while the others struggling to meet their ends meet. The rise of East Asian economies was not just the leadership but also the most favourable external factors giving them the chance to truly do MIRACLES. It was the 2008 crisis that brought developed world to their senses of leaving manufacturing sector when the economic stress bite them hard with dissatisfied working class and lots of social problems. My guess is China could be the only last major country which would make successful transition from third world to a high income status. Or maybe Vietnam if it play its cards well.
Don't be a pessimist! Things might turn out to be quite different. You never know how the geopolitics will play out! Wars might happen, business and politics might change, whoever is king might change to a beggar, some nation might get split into two, big corporations in tech and energy might die out leading to new companies elsewhere! Human world is Fluid-nothing is for certain!
@@sohambanerjee99 he is not saying all that to be pessimistic. just an observation based on how things have progressed for the last 20 years or so. all you said is anything can happen, anytime, anywhere.
If China says their population is better quality it's a fact. Why shekhar is so upset. USA has just 30 crores and still it's economy is 20 plus trillion dollars that means USA has Even Bett quality of population. So if we can accept usa than what's problem with accepting it about China. This girey toh bhi taang upar attitude that we have towards China is good for local consumption but in real world that makes us a laughing stock.
How it is better quality? They are also humans like us. Do you equate money with quality? Then ofc they got rich due to the exact demographics they had and now they don't have. If they really were happy about it. They wouldn't have commented in such a salty manner. They would have just ignored as they used to ignore india since long.
Better GDP doesn’t automatically mean citizens of better quality. Thugs and thieves earn more than an average person. So that statement was unnecessary and petty.
I agree. The only difference is that China is not a democracy, so the quality of life in the US is better. Now, though India is a democracy its people don't enjoy the same level of democratic freedom as in the US. So the quality is not great from that perspective
It's also the 'amrit kaal' of india where record number of us are giving up their passports for foreign ones. And not a single independent journalist left in mainstream media. Population ka achar daltey hain aur dharm ka affem latey hain.
People are migrating to greener pastures in EU, Canada, US, UK, and Australia because those countries are welcoming more highly skilled migrants to pay for the pensions of their aged population. It has nothing to do with any government in India. This trend will increase further in the future as more and more countries open their borders for Indian migrants no matter which government is in power. Germany has signed a migration pact recently with Indian government and expects up to 4 lakh migrants every year. Australia also signed the same a few months back. Even Japan and South Korea are talking to the Indian government for the same.
@@AL-tl9mt so you don't understand what "independent journalism" means. Very typical. And you think your analysis of immigration is accurate? Go to govt controlled media or your oxymoron ecosystem and get your opium fast.
@@AjayTiwari-en9nz where did you get this info from Mr. Tiwari? Do you have any idea what is happening? Don't expect the reality from government controlled media. Come to the US and take a look at the "highly skilled" work force which is coming here.
@Thoughtflux I have way more idea about what is happening in the world than what you do or anyone in your circle does. Moroever, I am an engineer working out of the USA for the last 4 years with a plethora of friends and colleagues working in Canada as well. So, these migration statistics involve people like me. Let me give you a few facts about the migration here in NA from India. First USA. 1) The United States is providing green cards to about 1-1.2 million people every year. Out of which half of them are given to people sponsored by employer.There is a cap on how many people from one country can get the green cards, and the max from one country is 7%. So just 35000 Indians get green cards every year. On top of that, about 40000 Indians come to the US every year on H1B, and some 30K students come here for MS. Both of these crowds mostly decide to pursue their careers and life in the USA. The green card applications have a huge backlog in the USA because of the 7% rule. Currently, those who are getting green cards are the people who had applied for it in 2013, and that is before Modi came to power. After getting your green card, you have to wait for 3-5 years before you become a citizen in the USA, and that means people who applied for green cards in the years before 2010 are getting US citizenship and subsequently leaving Indian citizenship as India doesn't allow dual nationality. So your BS is totally unsubstantiated! 2) The Canadian government runs a welfare state where education and healthcare expenses are convered by state. Canada's white working age population has been in decline since 2000, and after that, Canadians started the point based Visa sponsorship program to continue to retrieve high income taxes from the young migrants coming from other parts of the world. The way their system is designed, it favors white collar workers less than 30 years old. With this, they are attracting migrants who have been educated by other countries, which saves them the cost of training the workforce. About 30% of these visa cum PR sponsorships are being filled by Indians given the huge educated workforce of Indians willing to migrate in a developed country. After 2016, the Trump administration pulled the US out of the NAFTA deal, which resulted in a massive loss of revenue for Canadians as they were importing goods from China and selling them in the US without taxes. The Canadian government increased the migrant quotas after that as they had to get more taxes from a larger working population. Luckily for them, Trump also attacked the H1B program, which forced American firms to set up offices in Canada and hire more people there. All I am trying to say is that the Western countries have a large aging and dependent population for which a lot of money has to be spent by the states in the form of pensions and subsidized healthcare. This leaves them no option but to import a large tax paying population from other countries in the world. Luckily, India is the largest country in the world that has a surplus of an educated workforce, so the trends are natural. The same trends were true for China until a decade ago, and the Chinese were the largest source of immigration back then. Since then, the Chinese economy has grown drastically, and the income differential has reduced, and thus, the number of people coming out of China has reduced, but it is still the second largest in both Canada as well as the USA.
@Thoughtflux Also, the workers of Indian ethnicity(both citizens/migrants workers combined) in the USA are the highest earning ethnic group, which is a clear reflection of skills as employers do not pay you money for your brown color. In a capitalist setup, you make them way more money than what they pay you. I understand you might not be very well educated and thus have a terrible inferiority complex, but stats for Indians speak for themselves. While you can go and preach your religious propaganda to your idiots in churches, we Indians are more than happy with our code and STEM degrees.
The problem of feeding mouths is a peril of the past. What's the issue today is that the young demographic in the states of central India, which unfortunately has a high TFR rate, are unskilled. The quality of education is subpar with fake colleges churning out graduates with fake degrees. China is indeed staring at a bleak future demographically, but that means that there's going to be a brain drain from India to China since countries like America are becoming unappealing with less safety and third-rate politics. I think it's better to focus on manufacturing in unskilled areas and service in cities.
Never underestimate China in making silly and brutal policies. In a state of panic they can come up with shocking policies. Example: If some1 wants a government job, they should have minimum 3 children.
These trends are bullshit. They think trends go on forever, people don't do anything about it. If this theory of continuous trends were true. General electric's share should worth in millions. Or Teslas share should worth millions in 2040.
It's obviously hard for you to go out and see the world! The way China now encourages childbearing is social welfare compensation. Some cities have begun to provide rewards of 10,000-30,000 US dollars for the second child, free medical insurance, free schools, and subsidies for infancy! And provide longer paid holidays for parents of children! Retired single-child parents can get compensation of $1000-$2000 per year!
@@jojored7966 now they will reach two billion people in no time. When xi writes in the little red book ,children are the future of our nation ,every communist official tries hard to achieve the biggest child birth growth in the country
I think you are wrong. They can force people to have one child so can they force people to have more. As of now they have act yet. If do want to grow the population they will. It is not a democracy country so the party will have to decide what to do.
Forcing people to not have extra kids by fines and lack of facilities is one thing. How do you force people to produce more. Untill your just taking there sperm and eggs and making test tube babies, I don't see it happening
Nigeria's TFR has already come down to 5 and declining fast. New UN projections for Nigeria are more conservative than Lancet Study of '19. Their max appears to be 45-50 crore at max.
India and China both have one huge problem which is feeding, housing, and providing employment opportunities for a billion plus people. I don't think an enlarging population is good for anyone in India. India already has a surplus of labor, and it has not been able to give everyone an opportunity. Unlike Authoritarian China, India does not have an iron grip on it's population; such as secret police, and counter-intelligence units that spy on its civilians. Modi also opened Pandora's box with his BJP propaganda. His BJP propaganda will only amplify the level of risk India faces with a growing population that needs to be quelled.
Excellent exposition on this topic. Can't say enough good things about The Print. May be I do have some quibbles about Jyoti Malhotra -- but the rest of The Print more than makes up in maintaining the high standards.
Huge unproductive, unpatriotic population Is liability but small population Of Israel, Singapore and Denmark With qualities, patriotism and great asset to Nation
India’s population is a demographic disaster. We’re not skilling our youth, and most jobs are in the informal sector. This is a dubious distinction . We should be ashamed of ourselves as a country.
This high fertility in India is being seen in Canada everyday. Huge number of young persons are emigrating to low fertility nations like Canada either on PR visas or student visas.
Unfortunately their views have not changed since the 1920s. They have just evolved. Back then it was racists and nativists talking about birth control and keeping the population of "undesirables" like Africans and Indians low because they would use up resources. Now the nativists are gone, but they have simply become Malthusians who make the same false arguments. But the most shameful thing to me is not the NYT's idiocy, it is the Indians who have internalized these arguments and now cheer the decline of their own people! Population and scale are India's only advantage against other developing countries. Having more of your own countrymen is something to be celebrated because people are the most valuable resource.
Tibetan CIA Program 1960-1975 As stated by Palden Wangyal, a veteran guerrilla fighter, the rebels were directly paid by the Americans to attack Chinese government facilities and installations in Tibet: "Our soldiers attacked Chinese trucks and seized some documents of the Chinese government. After that, the Americans increased our pay scale". The Dalai Lama criticized this decision, saying it proved wholeheartedly that the US never did it to help the people of Tibet. International lobbying The 14th Dalai Lama was financially supported by the CIA between the late 1950s and the mid-1970s, receiving $180,000 a year. The funds were paid to him personally, although he used most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities such as funding foreign offices to lobby for international support. The Dalai Lama sought asylum in India, but the issues regarding Tibet and China received substantial attention from the press. Many protests erupted in response to the political conflicts between Tibet and China in countries including Burma, Pakistan, and Japan (and many more). Although the Dalai Lama's pleas proved to be less effective with the passing of time, his office in New York did not cease to lobby several U.N. delegations for the Tibetan cause. Also, the Dalai Lama was aided by a former U.S. delegate to the U.N. Criticism In his 1991 autobiography Freedom in Exile, the 14th Dalai Lama criticized the CIA for supporting the Tibetan independence movement "not because they (the CIA) cared about Tibetan independence, but as part of their worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments". In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming "once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help ... The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans."
“You cannot force people to have more babies “ sure you can. Just make the birth control options limited in the market. We are kidding ourselves if we think China is not ruthless enough to do that to their people.
Hi sir, Thank you for this great episode. It was quite succinctly done, and it hit all the headlines and highlighted the opportunities as well as the threats that India faces. You mentioned some states that have seen a decline in TFR, including my own state of Punjab. You further mentioned that we might need to explore the option of old age homes soon. This is quite an interesting point, because we Indians take pride in taking care of our parents and other elders and find this "Western" concept of old age homes repugnant and revolting. However, this may very well be the state of affairs we may be heading to. How that will affect our mindsets, morality and family structure will be fascinating. This concept is even more relevant and applicable to Punjab. Now, admittedly, I may be living in a bubble here, but it seems to me that everyone who is able to is moving abroad here, either to Canada or to Australia. I have seen entire colonies filled with "empty" homes having just the old couple living their as both their young children have shifted abroad. Now, this is not happening in Punjab because we don't have young children. It's because we are sending all our young children abroad in search of a better life and for jobs. This is where lack of any modern city (like Hyderabad, Pune, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Mumbai) is hurting North India big time. Haryana has Gurgaon, UP has Noida, but Punjab has nothing. Mohali seems irrelevant and Chandigarh is already choked. We have no industry or MNCs either.
You are quite right about the lack of a modern city. And we had done a story on this just days ago. Here's the link: theprint.in/ground-reports/punjab-youth-are-unemployable-the-state-doesnt-have-a-bangalore-hyderabad-pune-or-noida/1508514/ Thank you for watching this episode and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia Thank you so much for referencing the article sir! It was a great read. I also greatly appreciate the fact that you took the time and effort to read and respond to my comment.
@ThePrint @Javin This seems to be the case with Kerala as well. There is regular discussions where younger crowd has either migrated outside India forever like Ireland, Canada etc. Unlike the earlier case of Gulf migration this new wave of migration is not coming back! I am not quite sure remittances will increase any more as they are even taking their parents along. If people can't move outside India then at least to neighbouring cities like Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad.. So, it is sadly a state of "retirements homes" and "ghost houses".
India has clearly invested in women. Educated and independent women will mostly be career oriented and picky when chosing life partners. It clearly has helped us flaten the curve.
We need it in hindi speaking belt especially bihar. It's above 3 and with no better health infrastructure, no job opportunity with so many problems already at hand we in bihar really need population control bill. Over all india is doing fine if bihar doesn't improve it pulls down avg of nation's GDP, growth, child mortality, hunger index everything. It will be better for bihar and India both. :- a concerned bihari
@@m_solipsistic2547 Last 70 years in India: Hindu growth: 300M to 1.1 B i.e. 3.6 times (similar to Turkey or Egypt) Muslim growth : 35 M to 250 M i.e. 7.1 times. Liberals: Difference is insignificant.
Is the disproportionate fertility rate contribution to India’s population by Muslim’s a spot of sensitivity? I ask because I’ve seen this in other countries becoming political.
Muslim TFR is very slightly higher than hindu TFR , muslim follows almost same pattern of the state they are residing , J and K TFR is 1.7 which is same as AP/TS or Karnataka
Sir with due respect . China has more aged people . China average life expectancy is 78.08 while India 70.15 China pop density is 149/sqkm while India is 440/sqkm. Gdp education and living quality and and most important happiness index in all China is far ahead . China must celebrate it . And India should think over it
I am again against this idea of more population. If you just know the basics of technical advancements of today, and continuous growth in technology, you will not value more population.
Technology might help automation of many things. But then you need humans to do the blue coller job still. Robots replacing humans in everything is still far way to go. Trust me. From an engineer
@@tamobiswas6083 if you are a electrical mechanical type engineer and would have worked for longer, then you can tell the difference in no. of employees required for the daily operations from 10 years before to now. But if you are from software, you are just going to watch what electrical/mechanical saw in last 10 years
Ya you will see more and more Indians everywhere around the world also. Hope migration picks up. Other groups like Europeans have migrated everywhere and Indians should do the same.
WE ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT INDIA GETTING PORTRAYED WITH 'POOR' IMAGES IN WESTERN MEDIA. THEN WHY DO WE SHOW ONLY THE FOOR FACE OF AFRICA WHENEVER WE TALK OF HER?? AFRICA TOO HAS RICH CITIES & MANY AFRICAN COUNTRIES HAVE PER CAPITA INCOME ABOVE OR ON PAR WITH INDIA'S.
It's hard to believe that population growth will also increase per capita income, china still has the option to import labour or outsource just like the developed countries
Nothing to be proud of!!🤦♂️...It will overburden the labour market and bring down the wages affecting everyone's quality of life!!....India's future is gonna be crowded and chaos!!
The most shocking difference is between West Bengal and Bihar one at 1.6 and other at 3.1 respectively, West Bengal government have to shut primary schools due to lack of Students nearly 10,000 schools were shut due very low number of students enrolled on and an average of 3.1 students per class or 25 students in each school, Many might say this due to private schools but there is a serious crisis brewing in these low fertility states. By the Way Lancet report have a problem it has not included the absurd high TFR and sudden rise of TFR of the MENA region in respect to the Income distribution, we can also add AF-PAK region excluding the Turkey, Azerbaijan and Iran region in the same dilemma.
Quality of decision making by the great hall was tested as poor when the policy was changed from one child to two child to three child policy in matter of few years; having said that, India has to train its population as a force for good for the nation and the world
I am Chinese, I think China only needs 400 million people, America only has 400 million people, China has the same land area as America, but China has too many people
do not give a positive spin about population. nature is overwhelmed with human population and we can see climate change, most part of india is suffering from heat wave, it will impact crops and india will be unlivable. Chinese spokesperson was right to point out the quality of live . Sekhar Gupta stays in Delhi, let him do CTC from Begusarai from one year
The climate crisis is not being caused by the population. 100 companies produce 90 percentage of the carbon footprint in the world. If we establish a no fishing zone in 30 percentage of international waters, then there will enough fish for the whole world within a few years. The only real thing over population can cause is an increase of meat eaters which has negative impact on forest cover, but India is largest vegetarian population. Sustainable growth is not just about sustaining nature but also sustaining ourselves.
Agree completely, one sensible comment. Imagine India increasing it's per capita by 5 times. It will mean 5 times the resource consumption. This will deplete our natural resources even further. Combine that with 17 crore more people (10 Delhis). Imagine the pressure on resources.
I think youtube is suppressing your videos. Over time, I have observed that your videos start to buffer and then never play. I have tried a lot of things but all in vain. It is not a problem of network as other videos get played. I switched to WiFi, still nothing. Not able to download either. Please take a note of this.
Great report, as always. One small error - Shekhar refers repeatedly to UNPD, while he probably means to refer to UNDP (United Nations Development Program). Apparently there is actually a UNPD - this is the UN Procurement Division.
Shekarji, why are you shying away from discussing about the recent Pulawama revelations? Don’t you think this incident needs your attention? Hope you are not going in the direction of the Godi media. Your presentation was always considered as neutral until recently.
Hello Shekar, we have been watching your videos for quite some time now and are very much impressed with the knowledge and details you have on each topic. but we were disappointment on the population video as you only focused on economy but not the standard of living , which includes resources like health care system , education, infrastructure , clean drinking water and other areas where India lacks. So having more people will make it worst . Please continue your good work. Thank you !
Correction : The current fertility rate for Nigeria in 2023 is 5.076 births per woman, a 1.32% decline from 2022. My estimate is that Nigeria will reach TFR of 3 by 2045. By 2100, it will be 1.9.
All these statistics and number crunchers outdoing each other. Life for countries with high populations means slave labour human trafficking and India tops many countries on both these headings
Religion wise Split is more important for India. We already lost 1/3rd of India land to Pakistan and Bangladesh when Muslim population reached 35% in Pre partition India
We don't have enough resources to tend to 1.4 billion people. The competition for everything is going through the roof. Even for a peon job lakhs apply
There is space at the top. The bottom is always crowded. The problem isn't lack of jobs. The problem is lack of skilled labour. Degree is not equal to employability.
Even some Australian universities have to ban or partially ban potential students from at least 8 states, too much of competition to the point of outright fraudulence.
A lot of Indians will go and settle in EU and North America. Maybe even in China, Japan, and South Korea in the near future. Expect up to 2 million people leaving India every year by 2030. The combined effect of migration from India, terrible sex ratio, and declining birth rates means India will see a declining population by 2050. We have a very small window to become a high income country. At the same time, the Chinese population will decline like crazy in the next 30-40 years. As per China's own Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, the population of China is going to halve drastically depending on the TFR they can manage. TFR 1.1 => half in 30 years. TFR 1.2 => half in 40 years. TFR 1.3 => half in 50 years. TFR 1.4 => half in 60 years. TFR 1.5 => half in 70 years. TFR 1.6 => half in 80 years. UN projects that China will manage a TFR of 1.45 until the end of the century, which means its population will halve by the end of the century. Most likely, the Chinese population will halve in 40-50 years. But if they follow South Korea and end up with a TFR of 0.8, then they will halve their population in just 20 years.
💯 left exactly for the same reason where QOL will get affected for all in the future...when a army of new people will overload and overpopulate that land
Yes that's what most Indians don't seem to understand for some reason. Mark Mobius, the pioneer of emerging market investing has said that India is a prematurely aging society. I'll quote, "Yet what’s so interesting about the data is that India, which is about 15 or 20 years behind Southeast Asia in affluence terms, actually has a lower rate of population growth than Southeast Asia. In fact, India’s 15- to 35-year-olds are peaking not in the 2030s like Indonesia; not in the 2050s like the Philippines; India is peaking in three years."
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm By 2050 Western population will exhibit an irreversible birth rate decline that will lead to their extinction. Why are you talking about China? Worry about yourselves
Efforts must be made by the Central Government to reduce the very high birth rate among the three poorest segments of the population in Bihar ( 3.1), Uttar Pradesh, and Jharkhand, some of the poorest parts of the country. A national campaign to promote sterilization, vasectomy, and birth control methods must be EXPEDITED in these three states..
This sentence is not racial discrimination, he just simply stated a fact, what he means is that most Chinese labor force is of higher quality than Indian labor force, for example, education level, professional skills. This is due to the fact that China's education is more advanced than yours. China will use artificial intelligence to replace part of human work in the future. China has already laid out artificial intelligence, so population reduction will not affect China. However, India has not yet completed industrialization, and many things still need to be imported. The Chinese government is far more forward-looking and efficient than the Indian government. Your system predestines everything to move slower than in China. This is why China is developing several times faster than you. In modern society, efficiency equals head start and money.
India ranks 107th out of the 121 countries with sufficient data to calculate 2022 GHI scores. With a score of 29.1, India has a level of hunger that is serious.
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Religion wise Split is more important for India. We already lost 1/3rd of India land to Pakistan and Bangladesh when Muslim population reached 35% in Pre partition India
@@KrishnaKaliyuga You have to be careful Krishna, think you seeing things in a very wrong way. Having a too big population is putting massive strain on Indian water supply. This is a problem trying feed over a billion people now living in India. Even if you still had Pakistan that will not help you other parts of India where the farmers are worried that old water supply is being used up.
China predicted decades ago that an uncontrolled population has huge consequences on pollution, overcrowding, water, food security, education and quality of life that it implemented population control policies. China has roughly 7% of the world's fresh water. India only has 4%. As China industrialized, it went from a net exporter of agriculture to an net importer. All the problems China faced will be India's problems and more. It appears that India will peak at 1.8-2 billion and create a future ticking time bomb of demographics in the future. The only benefit is more low cost labourers if that is even an advantage as it relegates your population to the low income trap. Not even the middle income trap.
Chinas GDP per capita is now $13k USD. India is below $3k USD. What do we expect 1.8 billion Indians to have a per capita of only $15k USD as an maximum? It will forever be a low income trap let alone the middle income trap
Dalai Lama is American CIA agent ...
Tibetan CIA Program 1960-1975 As stated by Palden Wangyal, a veteran guerrilla fighter, the rebels were directly paid by the Americans to attack Chinese government facilities and installations in Tibet: "Our soldiers attacked Chinese trucks and seized some documents of the Chinese government. After that, the Americans increased our pay scale". The Dalai Lama criticized this decision, saying it proved wholeheartedly that the US never did it to help the people of Tibet. International lobbying The 14th Dalai Lama was financially supported by the CIA between the late 1950s and the mid-1970s, receiving $180,000 a year. The funds were paid to him personally, although he used most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities such as funding foreign offices to lobby for international support. The Dalai Lama sought asylum in India, but the issues regarding Tibet and China received substantial attention from the press. Many protests erupted in response to the political conflicts between Tibet and China in countries including Burma, Pakistan, and Japan (and many more). Although the Dalai Lama's pleas proved to be less effective with the passing of time, his office in New York did not cease to lobby several U.N. delegations for the Tibetan cause. Also, the Dalai Lama was aided by a former U.S. delegate to the U.N. Criticism In his 1991 autobiography Freedom in Exile, the 14th Dalai Lama criticized the CIA for supporting the Tibetan independence movement "not because they (the CIA) cared about Tibetan independence, but as part of their worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments". In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming "once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help ... The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans."
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My favorite line about India “India has disappointed both optimists and pessimists same time”
I heard that line from somebody else earlier
@@Harsh-rf9k first time I heard this line was back in 2014 before election results came out, from a guy who was an economist/analyst giving interview to Bloomberg. It is not only true but I have realized; it is a fact.
@@coldram1111 ruchir sharma?
@@Harsh-rf9k I don’t remember the name but it was bloomberg US
And you have too
Internal migration is already on. My district is in Andhra and its a dry one. Even here, i am started seeing people from Bihar and UP. They are here for permanent settlement.
Good.
Push for requirement of the knowledge of Telugu...
Mass migration will be disastrous.
Same is case with Haryana as well. Half the population of my city is from UP and Bihar. Those who had migrated in 2000s are doing good on socio-economic indicators. And tbh, Haryana needs migrant labors because migrant families are more productive than local ones. Almost 90% of labor force is made of migrants and women participation is quite high as well. You will hardly find any local working women except as teachers.
Same in MP actually in most of our colleges u will find people from up and Bihar
That’s because Andhra folks are migrating to somewhere else like US, Middle East etc.. it is similar case in Kerala as well..
Having a big population is not important.Having a population who can self support themselves and their family is more important since that will add value to the society and economy as a whole.Having more population which thrives on subsidy and govt support will just add to numbers and not to the economy and GDP of the country.
So only Bangla Islamists are to be allowed in India! Bengali logic: any Islamist is local of Bengal, every practicing Sanatani is. Bohirgato😊, terrorist, Communal mouth.
China is correct. The quality of their workers is definitely improving, which will propel economic growth, despite a decline in sheer numbers.
It won't - they have too many non working mouths to feed. An economy runs by consumers & producers - both of working age, which is the lowest in China in all of its history.
All nations with fertility less than 2 will DIE.
I don't know how he twisted it as "racism". The average Chinese worker is more productive than the average Indian worker. Most Indians don't even work in the formal sector and very few actually pay taxes to the government. In other words the Indian government gains very little from this population growth because it simply cannot reap the rewards of this growing work force unless it moves India away from farming and informal work towards heavy industry and the modern digitised economy. Fewer women are in the workforce than before which means a large percentage of India's workers are wasting away and it's being squandered. If this keeps going on then India will not be able to reap its demographic dividend and rather than an asset these people become a burden that the state cannot support.
Simply imagine a family with less than 200 US$ income a month having 8 children to feed.....
Hope that China delivers a few artillery shells to Putin and the sanctions would wipe off another 5-10 years of their remaining demographic advantage.😛
Indian media likes to turn every criticism into an asset and pat on the back for the current situation
What Chinese spokesperson said about quality of population I feel he meant that the education, health and skills level of an average Chinese is better than an average Indian. I don’t think we can argue with that reality as the HR quality of two countries is readily available.
Tru, but you don't remind a begger that he's a begger, it's not nice.
One negative side of the population growth in India which you haven't referred to is that low per capita income of India, inspite of growing economy. We are still behind even smaller European countries such as Georgia or Moldavia.
Plus job shortage
Ask political parties to invest more amount of money on human capital rather than on wasteful subsidies and freebies.
Ruling party are busy manufacturing ANDHBHAKTS 😅
@@sagarpaul7934 What will politicians do - give free employment like communists & destroy the economy with waste production?
@@mg.f.9023 Better to produce Bhakts than secular subhum*ns
india has a labor force participation rate of 40. china 70. having more people doesn't mean anything if they are not productive.
As Sanjeev Sanyal has presented in his excellent research paper recently our count of Women LFP is very inaccurately counted as the metrics used by UN are very western in concept.. Our data does not account for women participation in agricultural for eg. which is actually very high.. China may well be ahead of us but our LFP is higher than 40 for sure
Indian labour force participation in 'organized business' is 40%. Not total labour force participation. Please understand the difference. India has alot of unorganised labour participation which isn't accounted for in surveys
Germany gave vocational training in small jobs even baking etc to make a great productive pop. India sis not investing there instead creating white collar jobs for which u need money to invest which most families don't have.
@@0609Bhuwan doesnt matter we are still not close to quality of life chinese have now a days.i dont think we are reaching there in 10 to 20 years.anyway machines are taking over the work less people are required.
@@tarunshroti3255 Precisely. Don't now why the West are blowing smoke up their @ss. China has won the global race. Even if India tried to compete, China already got their first and is currently favored by the global South. India won't be leading the Globe anytime soon. They still need to resolve their slum situation
Old age homes are already in full swing in Kerala since late 90s.
so?
@siddharthsriram2685 best in recruiting terr@rists and jihadis too
@siddharthsriram2685 It's a breeding ground for PFI and ISIS recruitments I've heard 🤷♀️
@siddharthsriram2685 and still Keralites move to Bengaluru, Mangaluru and Chennai in large numbers, also to Gulf nation's 😂 if Kerala was so great, wouldn't they stay?
@siddharthsriram2685 And what are those "reliable" news sources? Please enlighten me.
*QUALITY>>>QUANTITY* whether you like it or not.
Freedom of citizens?
China is not sulking. Just look at its achievements on military and economic front.
Classic India: "DONT WORRY"
Lol
If the comment by the Chinese minister is looked objectively rather than from a racial context - what he is implying is that only the size of the population doesn’t matter, but how that population is able to contribute to the nation is what matters.
In the context of this video as well - the population of all current emerging economies will start to reduce going forward, means the dependence on efficiency of numbers rather than the numbers itself will begin to matter.
This means the focus in India has to be on how we can take the population dividend and give it the right opportunities so that it has a multiplier effect - big population, efficiently deployed-> strides in growth.
So I completely disagree with Shekhar and the team that the remarks from the Chinese should be dismissed as purely racially motivated.
Shekhar-ji, population-growth is always scary for India being extremely overpopulated.
Irony is poor-states has high-birth rate while politicians are busy in caste/religion politics.
Indian fertility-rate may fall faster in coming decades due to:
1. High-cost of living, education, 2. More women joining workforce,
3. Water-scarcity, climate issues, 4. Preference for alternate-lifestyles.
Women in the workforce is societal holocaust & genocide of families.
"Politicians have a lot of time when they are out of power" .. 😂 legend..
I’m pretty sure that the CCP think that Han Chinese count twice compared to all varieties of Indian.
Not all but yeah. Most
@@mohitanand1844 indeed. It’s substantially cultural. Research across culture on children ( if I recall correctly) has suggested similar empathy tendencies early on across population groups.
@@SeeLasSee not all still . Rajputs have defeated qing empire in their homeground.
@@mohitanand1844 this is an area of history I need to study up on.
@@mohitanand1844 when
Population must be properly managed by citizen , government ,media ,un, international organisation ,civil society, private and public body, companies, corporations, religious leaders.....in holistic and real way..to achieve global goals of development.....❤❤👍👍
Don't know about why people produce like rabbits. But in my village near Noida, a particular community vowed to produce more because Yogi defeated akhilesh in elections.
In my village in Kerala the other community is producing like rabbits to bring BJP to power
@@motei1853 that other community is already more than 50% in Kerala you dumb fuck , the only community who is producing like rats is the “peaceful”community !
@@manishjakh bhai dehradun, haldwani aur haridwar yeh sab haat sa nikal gaya , mullo ko pahar par aane sa ruko
@Gaurav Singh this government will do nothing , wait for Yogi baba
You should owe them some for their contribution in keeping the tfr stable
What about the growth rate of muslims?
You bhaiiya people are equally responsible for population growth..
Don't come to Maharashtra
Don't worry, you'll live long enough to see yourself a minority
😂😂x100000
@@sensei2203 NEVER
India - 2100 - 109 crores.
Depending on the community that becomes a majority by that time, it's hard to say whether India will remain India then.
We have stood for 1000s of years before and we will stand for 1000s of years after, this is the optimist in me talking.
Kya chutiya bna rahe ho, how can 20% minority become majority. Illiterate
Paranoid, aren't We ?
India will be hindu majority , muslim TFR not very much high and they are only 14 percent of indian population they become majority is mathematical impossibility
70cr hindus n 30cr Muslims. Hindus still b majority
Let us be honest, no country is jealous of India having so many people. Don't think it is a good thing. Let us not be so delusional.
Imagine India increasing it's per capita by 5 times. It will mean 5 times the resource consumption. This will deplete our natural resources even further. Combine that with 17 crore more people (10 Delhis). Imagine the pressure on resources.
If you per capita increases then it will increase in dollers. That means more rupee would become stronger. But the GDP ( PPP ) won't change much. So nope, it won't strain our resources that much
@@tamobiswas6083 Okay, so if more Indians will buy cars, take flights, travel abroad, use more air conditioning, will that not mean more electricity/ resource consumption ?
@@tapanthakur if more indians use cars then that would imply more oil imports ( of if electric cars then more electricity consumption ). India has enough renewable untapped energy sources to provide that. India doesn't even have enough nuclear plants now. They can easily build more nuclear plants in fleet mode. Same can be told for other items too. It won't strain 'indian resources' as such since the items are mostly imported from other countries.
@@tamobiswas6083 How will we tap our untapped renewable resources ? Solar Panels need metals and have a 25 year life. Where will you dump billions of solar panels and theor batteries?
Whst about hydroelectric projects, this takes acres of area and affects tens of kilometers of area.
Nuclear power plsnts - do you know waste is being buried under sea bed and will be there for tens of thousands of years. It can pollute land.
You need land yo grow food.
The only way is to try and reduce population and hence burden on resources.
I disagree with SG. As much as he try to sugarcoat it, India's population is a liability. Chinese FM's comment is neither racist nor wrong. Their quality of population is great and productive, unlike ours. Population collapse is only way India can move forward.
Population collapse is biggest threat to any society you dumb fool. China will go the Japan way while US benifits from immigration
For population collapse it will take decades
I think a follow up detailed episode - which talks about how India can leverage its young workforce effectively - is due! Pak and Nigeria are two great examples of what happens when the policies do not keep up with population growth! Second, there is a good possibility that Indians might serve as viable replacement in countries like South Korea, Baltic nations and dozen others which are suffering from a dire shortage of the necessary workforce to support their economies - and such migrations can drastically skew these projections.
If you think South korea and the Baltic States will allow Indians to replace them you are deluded 😂 They are some of the most racist countries in the world
Still not something to be proud of . The large population has been a major hindrance to India’s progress
We are only talking numbers and compare ourselves with China only when convenient. The quality of life, infrastructure, health services, education which China is giving to its Citizens is something India can't even think of . Simply numbers are not enough. We should have the means to make productive use of the numbers. China's politicians and thinkers are trying to get a status ahead of the most developed nations. Our ruling party is busy rewriting history and people are happily following. Its obvious that ,even respected news outlets like Print are of late treading very carefully and very guarded on what they write or say.
true
Chinese politics runs on a different course than India. It gave them quick economic growth but the same system can also come up with the cultural revolution and one child policy.
What India has is a product of our own political system. It has its own pluses and minuses but expecting the best of both systems while trying to avoid the negatives of both is not how it works sadly.
Applaud your comments. So educated Indians can see thru this nonsense
I love what Rudyard from Whatifalthist says:
'India is always the exception to every rule'
I also watch his great videos.
He is awesome.
Whatifalthist is not the sharpest when it comes to a lot of things he talks about.
Which episode?
One heat wave, one crop failure and we will get the taste of what actual helplessness is and people like Guptaji would be looking to blame someone then.
China is a bright spot in future where people will inherit houses/wealth from their parents and would enjoy a good life.
Indians would be working to death in competition with each other with too much pollution and no quality of life.
@@ishanbajpai6940 The guy is very much an alt right white supremacist. And uneducated.
Sorry Shekhar, I am rather irked by your assessment of "quality of population" remark of Chinese representative. They may well have not so great quality of population due to their repressive policies but we are no better either and frankly, we are deteriorating much faster than any other "quality of population" considering the social changes unleashed we see around us these days.
Growing population is never a challenge in India, the real challenge is high density of population living in a very small area mainly in and around big cities.
Exactly! High population densities around urban centres are a stress on resources!
There fore we need more territory
We need economic diversification. specially support to msme
@@manpreetbrar838 We don't need new territory.. We need to build more planned cities to house our population and spread out evenly
@@manpreetbrar838 Get some therapy bro... You seem to not live in the real world.
Big Population - Big Problems If Not Handled Well. 😕
But also big opportunities if handled well. Every country that developed did it on the back of a demographic dividend. I've noticed a lot of Indians seem to think large population is bad because of "resources". But this is outdated and incorrect Malthusian thinking. The biggest and most important resource is PEOPLE.
Meiji Japan managed to develop into a great power in 3 decades without any natural resources. They illustrate this point and would be a great example for Indians to study. They accomplished this from the 1860s to 1900 through centralization of domestic power and radical openness to other countries.
The number one goal of the Indian government right now should be to raise the labor participation rate and employ people in a low skill industry like textiles. This is how China utilized its massive demographic dividend in the 90s and early 2000s. China and Vietnam are other countries that very recently went through similar stages of development that India should also study. Land acquisition reform and agricultural reform and more important than any talk of semiconductors or aerospace. Its the nuts and bolts that matter.
Shekhar Gupta..is too optimistic
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm IF HANDLE WELL..
Do you think our government is handling population well ?
@@shaggybeckham9605 No. Indians, especially Hindus are not reproducing fast enough. We need to increase the growth rate of Hindus in this country. We need reproductive quotas as soon as possible.
@@shaggybeckham9605 good thing we have Modi Ji (avatar of Lord Vishnu) 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Is it very unpopular & unsafe to make a cut the clutter on the allegations about Pulwama attack on Modi govt made by Satyapal Malik, ex Governor of J&K? It seems very easy to mock Rahul Gandhi, criticize previous govt policies. But such an important & cluttered issue is going under the RADAR of Shekhar Gupta is not very pleasant.
I strongly agree with you.
Only a Census can give us an exact idea. Unfortunately this government has been SO reluctant to conduct it!
Census won't happen till 2024
Census will happen only after 2024 elections. Govt doesn't want to do the caste census and also doesn't want to provoke nrc, npr thing before elections.
I think in today's digital world, Govt already got almost all of data even without census. Govt schemes after all runs on data.
@@Edward4Plantagenet then why has China and US and several other countries conducted their census in the past 2-3 years
If we keep making things political, we will struggle to make real progress
they're tryna avoid doing the caste census , so they avoided the population census fully.
Sekhar ji's cover fire for our muslim brothers hum do hamare 20. Highly appreciated. 👏
Population, if not utilized properly will be a liability not asset. Indian population surely will be a huge liability.
It is asset.
@@nsevv no, more rapists for sure.
Indians are confident of handling population growth under democracy but signals in governence are doubtful and trust deficit of all institutions parliament, judiciary, executive and media. aha ram!
There is no nation on Earth today as well placed & managed as India. All developed nations are on the decline & dying.
I went to college with a lot of Nigerians in the Boston area. Most of them are still in the US.. primarily in the medical or biotech industries today as Physicians, Scientists, Nurses and Technicians. A few did go back to Nigeria to practice there. The ones still in the US moved to other parts of the country, own nice houses and have raised kids that are now top students while also playing competitive high school sports. My sense is that they are probably one of the most successful groups migrating to the US from Africa.
Mainly from one part of Nigeria. Other part is busy in violence.
What is the relation of that to this episode
@@hbp437 Hi, Nigeria has a large population.. and is mentioned in this episode.
It's hillarious when I hear people talking about 2100 and the population levels then when we are not even sure what will happen by 2060 with the climate havoc we are facing.
Nah .humanity will be still there. Earth has been heating up long since
Climate change is farce
Tibetan CIA Program 1960-1975 As stated by Palden Wangyal, a veteran guerrilla fighter, the rebels were directly paid by the Americans to attack Chinese government facilities and installations in Tibet: "Our soldiers attacked Chinese trucks and seized some documents of the Chinese government. After that, the Americans increased our pay scale". The Dalai Lama criticized this decision, saying it proved wholeheartedly that the US never did it to help the people of Tibet. International lobbying The 14th Dalai Lama was financially supported by the CIA between the late 1950s and the mid-1970s, receiving $180,000 a year. The funds were paid to him personally, although he used most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities such as funding foreign offices to lobby for international support. The Dalai Lama sought asylum in India, but the issues regarding Tibet and China received substantial attention from the press. Many protests erupted in response to the political conflicts between Tibet and China in countries including Burma, Pakistan, and Japan (and many more). Although the Dalai Lama's pleas proved to be less effective with the passing of time, his office in New York did not cease to lobby several U.N. delegations for the Tibetan cause. Also, the Dalai Lama was aided by a former U.S. delegate to the U.N. Criticism In his 1991 autobiography Freedom in Exile, the 14th Dalai Lama criticized the CIA for supporting the Tibetan independence movement "not because they (the CIA) cared about Tibetan independence, but as part of their worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments". In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming "once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help ... The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans."
Trees 10 per person
Cold storage cooling industries
0 carbon
60% ethanol 100% ethanol
Cloud seeding rain
Etc etc measures
Ev renewable very important
Petrol diesel should be phased out
@@mohitanand1844 I hope what you say is true. Would want to see my son living in a better world than we are used to living in.
It's fascinating to note that humankind started with (and in) Africa, it will end there as well since in 100 years, most of the youngsters will be found only there!
During 2000s there was a saying among so called intelluctual and economist while comparing India and China....India has democracy and demography...Now China is far far ahead of India. Democracy loose Autocracy WINS!!
The West showered China with investment and technology transfer (which they are regretting now), which is why China advanced. No one is doing that to India. Not only that, the West does not want another high-population country growing like China, so they are causing all sorts of disruptions in India through NGOs.
Western INVESTMENT in Technology & Manufacturing helped China rise, not Autocracy.
Just Autocracy by itself will create a Zimbabwe!
You must have a sad and lonely life in you mother's basement
Demographic dividend can become a 'demographic nightmare' as the unemployment rate in India is at an all time high, and women participation in labor is in decline! India cannot take advantage of this workforce if the Modi government continues to fail even providing Modi's infamous 'pakoda employment'?
What is our Main Stream Media feeding our population? Development ideas or Hindu Muslim conflict
Female participation in the workforce is a disaster for the society. It is your job as a Man to make the money - BE A MAN, not a CUCK.
‘ Nasbandi ‘ initiative by late Sanjay Gandhi during emergency was the correct and proper way to reduce India’s population by now .
Okay so have you castrated yourself?
Hmm
It was a violation of basic human right. If you want nasabandi do yours first. Little shit.
No not at all
I just don't get the hype of so called demographic dividend. China reached the replacement levels in late 1980s and it's economy literally continued on 10 percent growth path for next 20 years more. All due to globalization which was at its peak, trade was booming. It was the high time of optimism that finally developing countries can become rich and catch up. Now, the time is totally marked by geopolitical differences, protectionism is on rise, technology is not anything to be shared. Just think of the complexity of countries like Bangladesh, india and other countries whereby the new path is fraught with lot of fragility. All the future industries are dominated by few industrialised countries. China dominates the green tech revolution, US dominates semiconductors etc. It's not the time whereby countries have the patience to become sweatshops for products of developed countries. I mean China literally gobbled up the whole manufacturing which could have provided the respite to poor countries to earn valuable dollars. All the shit talking about decoupling is basically Chinese moving up the value chain and are literally on par with US and Japan, Korea and europe on many key technologies. All they r doing is leaving their assembly operations to other countries without giving them the chance to add value to the assembled products. In the age of AI, potentially so called demographic dividend remains to be seen. India shall always remain with a thriving 100 millions working on great projects and living comfortable lifestyle while the others struggling to meet their ends meet. The rise of East Asian economies was not just the leadership but also the most favourable external factors giving them the chance to truly do MIRACLES. It was the 2008 crisis that brought developed world to their senses of leaving manufacturing sector when the economic stress bite them hard with dissatisfied working class and lots of social problems. My guess is China could be the only last major country which would make successful transition from third world to a high income status. Or maybe Vietnam if it play its cards well.
China is already starting to face problems. Chinese phenomena like 躺平(Lie Flat), (摆烂)Let It Rot did not emerge out of thin air.
Don't be a pessimist! Things might turn out to be quite different. You never know how the geopolitics will play out! Wars might happen, business and politics might change, whoever is king might change to a beggar, some nation might get split into two, big corporations in tech and energy might die out leading to new companies elsewhere! Human world is Fluid-nothing is for certain!
@@sohambanerjee99 he is not saying all that to be pessimistic. just an observation based on how things have progressed for the last 20 years or so. all you said is anything can happen, anytime, anywhere.
@@fuzzywuzzy0549 Yeah. That is what I said. 20 years or not, anything can change anytime! Could you have imagined a Pandemic before 2020?
@@sohambanerjee99 one can always make educated guesses and observations based on available statistics, data and such.
If China says their population is better quality it's a fact. Why shekhar is so upset. USA has just 30 crores and still it's economy is 20 plus trillion dollars that means USA has Even Bett quality of population. So if we can accept usa than what's problem with accepting it about China. This girey toh bhi taang upar attitude that we have towards China is good for local consumption but in real world that makes us a laughing stock.
How it is better quality? They are also humans like us. Do you equate money with quality? Then ofc they got rich due to the exact demographics they had and now they don't have. If they really were happy about it. They wouldn't have commented in such a salty manner. They would have just ignored as they used to ignore india since long.
Better GDP doesn’t automatically mean citizens of better quality. Thugs and thieves earn more than an average person. So that statement was unnecessary and petty.
I agree. The only difference is that China is not a democracy, so the quality of life in the US is better. Now, though India is a democracy its people don't enjoy the same level of democratic freedom as in the US. So the quality is not great from that perspective
It's also the 'amrit kaal' of india where record number of us are giving up their passports for foreign ones. And not a single independent journalist left in mainstream media. Population ka achar daltey hain aur dharm ka affem latey hain.
People are migrating to greener pastures in EU, Canada, US, UK, and Australia because those countries are welcoming more highly skilled migrants to pay for the pensions of their aged population. It has nothing to do with any government in India. This trend will increase further in the future as more and more countries open their borders for Indian migrants no matter which government is in power.
Germany has signed a migration pact recently with Indian government and expects up to 4 lakh migrants every year. Australia also signed the same a few months back.
Even Japan and South Korea are talking to the Indian government for the same.
@@AL-tl9mt so you don't understand what "independent journalism" means. Very typical. And you think your analysis of immigration is accurate? Go to govt controlled media or your oxymoron ecosystem and get your opium fast.
@@AjayTiwari-en9nz where did you get this info from Mr. Tiwari? Do you have any idea what is happening? Don't expect the reality from government controlled media. Come to the US and take a look at the "highly skilled" work force which is coming here.
@Thoughtflux I have way more idea about what is happening in the world than what you do or anyone in your circle does. Moroever, I am an engineer working out of the USA for the last 4 years with a plethora of friends and colleagues working in Canada as well. So, these migration statistics involve people like me. Let me give you a few facts about the migration here in NA from India. First USA.
1) The United States is providing green cards to about 1-1.2 million people every year. Out of which half of them are given to people sponsored by employer.There is a cap on how many people from one country can get the green cards, and the max from one country is 7%. So just 35000 Indians get green cards every year. On top of that, about 40000 Indians come to the US every year on H1B, and some 30K students come here for MS. Both of these crowds mostly decide to pursue their careers and life in the USA. The green card applications have a huge backlog in the USA because of the 7% rule. Currently, those who are getting green cards are the people who had applied for it in 2013, and that is before Modi came to power. After getting your green card, you have to wait for 3-5 years before you become a citizen in the USA, and that means people who applied for green cards in the years before 2010 are getting US citizenship and subsequently leaving Indian citizenship as India doesn't allow dual nationality. So your BS is totally unsubstantiated!
2) The Canadian government runs a welfare state where education and healthcare expenses are convered by state. Canada's white working age population has been in decline since 2000, and after that, Canadians started the point based Visa sponsorship program to continue to retrieve high income taxes from the young migrants coming from other parts of the world. The way their system is designed, it favors white collar workers less than 30 years old. With this, they are attracting migrants who have been educated by other countries, which saves them the cost of training the workforce. About 30% of these visa cum PR sponsorships are being filled by Indians given the huge educated workforce of Indians willing to migrate in a developed country. After 2016, the Trump administration pulled the US out of the NAFTA deal, which resulted in a massive loss of revenue for Canadians as they were importing goods from China and selling them in the US without taxes. The Canadian government increased the migrant quotas after that as they had to get more taxes from a larger working population. Luckily for them, Trump also attacked the H1B program, which forced American firms to set up offices in Canada and hire more people there.
All I am trying to say is that the Western countries have a large aging and dependent population for which a lot of money has to be spent by the states in the form of pensions and subsidized healthcare. This leaves them no option but to import a large tax paying population from other countries in the world. Luckily, India is the largest country in the world that has a surplus of an educated workforce, so the trends are natural.
The same trends were true for China until a decade ago, and the Chinese were the largest source of immigration back then. Since then, the Chinese economy has grown drastically, and the income differential has reduced, and thus, the number of people coming out of China has reduced, but it is still the second largest in both Canada as well as the USA.
@Thoughtflux Also, the workers of Indian ethnicity(both citizens/migrants workers combined) in the USA are the highest earning ethnic group, which is a clear reflection of skills as employers do not pay you money for your brown color. In a capitalist setup, you make them way more money than what they pay you. I understand you might not be very well educated and thus have a terrible inferiority complex, but stats for Indians speak for themselves. While you can go and preach your religious propaganda to your idiots in churches, we Indians are more than happy with our code and STEM degrees.
The problem of feeding mouths is a peril of the past. What's the issue today is that the young demographic in the states of central India, which unfortunately has a high TFR rate, are unskilled. The quality of education is subpar with fake colleges churning out graduates with fake degrees.
China is indeed staring at a bleak future demographically, but that means that there's going to be a brain drain from India to China since countries like America are becoming unappealing with less safety and third-rate politics.
I think it's better to focus on manufacturing in unskilled areas and service in cities.
Never underestimate China in making silly and brutal policies. In a state of panic they can come up with shocking policies.
Example: If some1 wants a government job, they should have minimum 3 children.
These trends are bullshit. They think trends go on forever, people don't do anything about it. If this theory of continuous trends were true. General electric's share should worth in millions. Or Teslas share should worth millions in 2040.
But they do work. You can never implement in a democracy though.
It's obviously hard for you to go out and see the world! The way China now encourages childbearing is social welfare compensation. Some cities have begun to provide rewards of 10,000-30,000 US dollars for the second child, free medical insurance, free schools, and subsidies for infancy! And provide longer paid holidays for parents of children! Retired single-child parents can get compensation of $1000-$2000 per year!
@@jojored7966 now they will reach two billion people in no time. When xi writes in the little red book ,children are the future of our nation ,every communist official tries hard to achieve the biggest child birth growth in the country
These silly policies you mentioned are also in force in Assam and UP
I think you are wrong. They can force people to have one child so can they force people to have more. As of now they have act yet. If do want to grow the population they will. It is not a democracy country so the party will have to decide what to do.
Forcing people to not have extra kids by fines and lack of facilities is one thing. How do you force people to produce more. Untill your just taking there sperm and eggs and making test tube babies, I don't see it happening
Kp Why you can't go to china and marry a chingi there?
Nigeria's TFR has already come down to 5 and declining fast. New UN projections for Nigeria are more conservative than Lancet Study of '19. Their max appears to be 45-50 crore at max.
Wow, the opening statement regarding that Chinese official shows that Shri Shekhar Gupta is absolutely naive regarding the CCP.
Just 1 issue:- 'peaceful' are producing too much ...
India and China both have one huge problem which is feeding, housing, and providing employment opportunities for a billion plus people. I don't think an enlarging population is good for anyone in India. India already has a surplus of labor, and it has not been able to give everyone an opportunity. Unlike Authoritarian China, India does not have an iron grip on it's population; such as secret police, and counter-intelligence units that spy on its civilians. Modi also opened Pandora's box with his BJP propaganda. His BJP propaganda will only amplify the level of risk India faces with a growing population that needs to be quelled.
Why don't UP Bihar demand separate country ? We should gladly give them one.
Excellent exposition on this topic. Can't say enough good things about The Print. May be I do have some quibbles about Jyoti Malhotra -- but the rest of The Print more than makes up in maintaining the high standards.
India should generate enough jobs to meet its increasing population. Only then can demographic dividend be fully realized.
Need Skilled labor n Scientific methods & investment
@@mg.f.9023 yes, India needs to build a knowledge economy. Schools and colleges should focus on STEM (science, technology, engineering and math).
Huge unproductive, unpatriotic population
Is liability but small population
Of Israel, Singapore and Denmark
With qualities, patriotism and great asset to
Nation
Wow! You summarised the problem in two words - unpatriotic and unproductive.
India’s population is a demographic disaster. We’re not skilling our youth, and most jobs are in the informal sector. This is a dubious distinction . We should be ashamed of ourselves as a country.
This high fertility in India is being seen in Canada everyday. Huge number of young persons are emigrating to low fertility nations like Canada either on PR visas or student visas.
I'm sure the racists at NYT are gonna have a field day with this story and miss all the nuance Shekhar points out.
The racists are in BJP.
Unfortunately their views have not changed since the 1920s. They have just evolved. Back then it was racists and nativists talking about birth control and keeping the population of "undesirables" like Africans and Indians low because they would use up resources. Now the nativists are gone, but they have simply become Malthusians who make the same false arguments.
But the most shameful thing to me is not the NYT's idiocy, it is the Indians who have internalized these arguments and now cheer the decline of their own people! Population and scale are India's only advantage against other developing countries. Having more of your own countrymen is something to be celebrated because people are the most valuable resource.
Tibetan CIA Program 1960-1975 As stated by Palden Wangyal, a veteran guerrilla fighter, the rebels were directly paid by the Americans to attack Chinese government facilities and installations in Tibet: "Our soldiers attacked Chinese trucks and seized some documents of the Chinese government. After that, the Americans increased our pay scale". The Dalai Lama criticized this decision, saying it proved wholeheartedly that the US never did it to help the people of Tibet. International lobbying The 14th Dalai Lama was financially supported by the CIA between the late 1950s and the mid-1970s, receiving $180,000 a year. The funds were paid to him personally, although he used most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities such as funding foreign offices to lobby for international support. The Dalai Lama sought asylum in India, but the issues regarding Tibet and China received substantial attention from the press. Many protests erupted in response to the political conflicts between Tibet and China in countries including Burma, Pakistan, and Japan (and many more). Although the Dalai Lama's pleas proved to be less effective with the passing of time, his office in New York did not cease to lobby several U.N. delegations for the Tibetan cause. Also, the Dalai Lama was aided by a former U.S. delegate to the U.N. Criticism In his 1991 autobiography Freedom in Exile, the 14th Dalai Lama criticized the CIA for supporting the Tibetan independence movement "not because they (the CIA) cared about Tibetan independence, but as part of their worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments". In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming "once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help ... The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans."
@Dk The world should only see ZEE TV, Republic TV, Times Now for TRUTH!
“You cannot force people to have more babies “ sure you can. Just make the birth control options limited in the market. We are kidding ourselves if we think China is not ruthless enough to do that to their people.
Hi sir,
Thank you for this great episode. It was quite succinctly done, and it hit all the headlines and highlighted the opportunities as well as the threats that India faces. You mentioned some states that have seen a decline in TFR, including my own state of Punjab. You further mentioned that we might need to explore the option of old age homes soon. This is quite an interesting point, because we Indians take pride in taking care of our parents and other elders and find this "Western" concept of old age homes repugnant and revolting. However, this may very well be the state of affairs we may be heading to. How that will affect our mindsets, morality and family structure will be fascinating. This concept is even more relevant and applicable to Punjab. Now, admittedly, I may be living in a bubble here, but it seems to me that everyone who is able to is moving abroad here, either to Canada or to Australia. I have seen entire colonies filled with "empty" homes having just the old couple living their as both their young children have shifted abroad. Now, this is not happening in Punjab because we don't have young children. It's because we are sending all our young children abroad in search of a better life and for jobs. This is where lack of any modern city (like Hyderabad, Pune, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Mumbai) is hurting North India big time. Haryana has Gurgaon, UP has Noida, but Punjab has nothing. Mohali seems irrelevant and Chandigarh is already choked. We have no industry or MNCs either.
India is not falling for this. UK and USA just blowing smoke up their @ss. The reals ones know the West are snakes
You are quite right about the lack of a modern city. And we had done a story on this just days ago. Here's the link: theprint.in/ground-reports/punjab-youth-are-unemployable-the-state-doesnt-have-a-bangalore-hyderabad-pune-or-noida/1508514/
Thank you for watching this episode and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia Thank you so much for referencing the article sir! It was a great read. I also greatly appreciate the fact that you took the time and effort to read and respond to my comment.
@ThePrint @Javin
This seems to be the case with Kerala as well. There is regular discussions where younger crowd has either migrated outside India forever like Ireland, Canada etc. Unlike the earlier case of Gulf migration this new wave of migration is not coming back! I am not quite sure remittances will increase any more as they are even taking their parents along. If people can't move outside India then at least to neighbouring cities like Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad.. So, it is sadly a state of "retirements homes" and "ghost houses".
India has clearly invested in women. Educated and independent women will mostly be career oriented and picky when chosing life partners. It clearly has helped us flaten the curve.
Don't kid yourself. Every minute a female is raped and the government doesn't do anything to protect them
Shekar, r u going to discuss abt satyapal malik's interview, or do u think it isn't substantial
It is not substantial
@@Deveshi.A. Will be in bad books with the ruling party. Look at Main Stream Media.
China is right ..quality is as important as quantity .
Need 1 child policy also 0 for some peaceful community
More important is Religion out of Politics
NFHS health survey of India (2019-20) keeps India's fertility rate at 2.05! So NO need of ANY law
We need it in hindi speaking belt especially bihar. It's above 3 and with no better health infrastructure, no job opportunity with so many problems already at hand we in bihar really need population control bill. Over all india is doing fine if bihar doesn't improve it pulls down avg of nation's GDP, growth, child mortality, hunger index everything. It will be better for bihar and India both.
:- a concerned bihari
@@m_solipsistic2547 Last 70 years in India:
Hindu growth: 300M to 1.1 B i.e. 3.6 times (similar to Turkey or Egypt)
Muslim growth : 35 M to 250 M i.e. 7.1 times.
Liberals: Difference is insignificant.
Is the disproportionate fertility rate contribution to India’s population by Muslim’s a spot of sensitivity? I ask because I’ve seen this in other countries becoming political.
To the right wing, yes
For the lefties, any such talk is bunkum
The disproportionate fertility rate is due to BIMARU states, which has fertility rates much higher than Bangladesh a muslim country.
No it's not that big of a difference when it comes to absolutes. Hondu TFR is 1.94 and Muslim TFR is 2.3
Muslim TFR is very slightly higher than hindu TFR , muslim follows almost same pattern of the state they are residing , J and K TFR is 1.7 which is same as AP/TS or Karnataka
@@varun794 Bangladesh TFR is 1.93.
Sir with due respect . China has more aged people . China average life expectancy is 78.08 while India 70.15 China pop density is 149/sqkm while India is 440/sqkm. Gdp education and living quality and and most important happiness index in all China is far ahead . China must celebrate it . And India should think over it
don't tell them the truth, that's really hurt.
I am again against this idea of more population. If you just know the basics of technical advancements of today, and continuous growth in technology, you will not value more population.
Technology might help automation of many things. But then you need humans to do the blue coller job still. Robots replacing humans in everything is still far way to go. Trust me. From an engineer
@@tamobiswas6083 if you are a electrical mechanical type engineer and would have worked for longer, then you can tell the difference in no. of employees required for the daily operations from 10 years before to now. But if you are from software, you are just going to watch what electrical/mechanical saw in last 10 years
Ya you will see more and more Indians everywhere around the world also. Hope migration picks up. Other groups like Europeans have migrated everywhere and Indians should do the same.
I welcome all UPites and Biharis. They are fellow Indians and brothers. Their children study the local language even though they themselves can't.
WE ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT INDIA GETTING PORTRAYED WITH 'POOR' IMAGES IN WESTERN MEDIA. THEN WHY DO WE SHOW ONLY THE FOOR FACE OF AFRICA WHENEVER WE TALK OF HER?? AFRICA TOO HAS RICH CITIES & MANY AFRICAN COUNTRIES HAVE PER CAPITA INCOME ABOVE OR ON PAR WITH INDIA'S.
Guptajee, 'Tu idhar udhar ki baat na kar (demographic dividend), yeh bata hamare naujawan videsh jaane ke liye itna utsuk kyon hain? Unki talim aur rozgaari ke liye kya prabandh hain?'
Over population is a concern nothing to be proud about it..
The Chinese minister said the quality of life not quality of people. The quality of life is provided by the government. No racism there.
Change Demography of india is a great concern. We need more hindus than abrahmic religion
More Jumla specialist like our PM
It's hard to believe that population growth will also increase per capita income, china still has the option to import labour or outsource just like the developed countries
Nothing to be proud of!!🤦♂️...It will overburden the labour market and bring down the wages affecting everyone's quality of life!!....India's future is gonna be crowded and chaos!!
The most shocking difference is between West Bengal and Bihar one at 1.6 and other at 3.1 respectively, West Bengal government have to shut primary schools due to lack of Students nearly 10,000 schools were shut due very low number of students enrolled on and an average of 3.1 students per class or 25 students in each school, Many might say this due to private schools but there is a serious crisis brewing in these low fertility states. By the Way Lancet report have a problem it has not included the absurd high TFR and sudden rise of TFR of the MENA region in respect to the Income distribution, we can also add AF-PAK region excluding the Turkey, Azerbaijan and Iran region in the same dilemma.
Can you elaborate a bit on this?
Quality of decision making by the great hall was tested as poor when the policy was changed from one child to two child to three child policy in matter of few years; having said that, India has to train its population as a force for good for the nation and the world
I am Chinese, I think China only needs 400 million people, America only has 400 million people, China has the same land area as America, but China has too many people
do not give a positive spin about population. nature is overwhelmed with human population and we can see climate change, most part of india is suffering from heat wave, it will impact crops and india will be unlivable. Chinese spokesperson was right to point out the quality of live . Sekhar Gupta stays in Delhi, let him do CTC from Begusarai from one year
The climate crisis is not being caused by the population. 100 companies produce 90 percentage of the carbon footprint in the world. If we establish a no fishing zone in 30 percentage of international waters, then there will enough fish for the whole world within a few years. The only real thing over population can cause is an increase of meat eaters which has negative impact on forest cover, but India is largest vegetarian population. Sustainable growth is not just about sustaining nature but also sustaining ourselves.
Agree completely, one sensible comment. Imagine India increasing it's per capita by 5 times. It will mean 5 times the resource consumption. This will deplete our natural resources even further. Combine that with 17 crore more people (10 Delhis). Imagine the pressure on resources.
@@Ram_3011 Those companies produce products that are used by humans. More people = more depleting resources
@@tapanthakur He is bangladeshi hindu refugee, dont answer his idiotic question.
You are hilarious 😆
I think youtube is suppressing your videos. Over time, I have observed that your videos start to buffer and then never play. I have tried a lot of things but all in vain. It is not a problem of network as other videos get played. I switched to WiFi, still nothing. Not able to download either. Please take a note of this.
Great report, as always.
One small error - Shekhar refers repeatedly to UNPD, while he probably means to refer to UNDP (United Nations Development Program). Apparently there is actually a UNPD - this is the UN Procurement Division.
We broke the myth flattened the curve of population growth.eastern india had invested in education and health.
Here China can take cue from Pakistan...shut down electricty by 7 pm😂😂😂
Shekarji, why are you shying away from discussing about the recent Pulawama revelations? Don’t you think this incident needs your attention? Hope you are not going in the direction of the Godi media. Your presentation was always considered as neutral until recently.
Fundamental question:
US has less than 1/4 of Chinese population, but US is much more powerful in all aspects.
Population really matter that much?
Hello Shekar, we have been watching your videos for quite some time now and are very much impressed with the knowledge and details you have on each topic. but we were disappointment on the population video as you only focused on economy but not the standard of living , which includes resources like health care system , education, infrastructure , clean drinking water and other areas where India lacks. So having more people will make it worst . Please continue your good work. Thank you !
In Kerala the young generation is migrating in large number to Canada, Australia, UK, Germany etc .
Which is good
@@mohitanand1844 r u UP bhaiiya?
@@shaggybeckham9605 no I am ur pappa
@@mohitanand1844 Understood...u r AndBhakt..
Just don't come to our Maharashtra
lol not there more like Gulf ..
Building childcare infrastructure is also very important, if we want working women to have children. Most of my acquaintances have only one child.
Correction : The current fertility rate for Nigeria in 2023 is 5.076 births per woman, a 1.32% decline from 2022. My estimate is that Nigeria will reach TFR of 3 by 2045. By 2100, it will be 1.9.
All these statistics and number crunchers outdoing each other. Life for countries with high populations means slave labour human trafficking and India tops many countries on both these headings
Birth control is a bloody must............. more than two kids no reservation etc crap now...........
Religion wise Split is more important for India. We already lost 1/3rd of India land to Pakistan and Bangladesh when Muslim population reached 35% in Pre partition India
We don't have enough resources to tend to 1.4 billion people. The competition for everything is going through the roof. Even for a peon job lakhs apply
There is space at the top. The bottom is always crowded. The problem isn't lack of jobs. The problem is lack of skilled labour. Degree is not equal to employability.
Even some Australian universities have to ban or partially ban potential students from at least 8 states, too much of competition to the point of outright fraudulence.
A lot of Indians will go and settle in EU and North America. Maybe even in China, Japan, and South Korea in the near future. Expect up to 2 million people leaving India every year by 2030. The combined effect of migration from India, terrible sex ratio, and declining birth rates means India will see a declining population by 2050. We have a very small window to become a high income country.
At the same time, the Chinese population will decline like crazy in the next 30-40 years. As per China's own Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, the population of China is going to halve drastically depending on the TFR they can manage.
TFR 1.1 => half in 30 years.
TFR 1.2 => half in 40 years.
TFR 1.3 => half in 50 years.
TFR 1.4 => half in 60 years.
TFR 1.5 => half in 70 years.
TFR 1.6 => half in 80 years.
UN projects that China will manage a TFR of 1.45 until the end of the century, which means its population will halve by the end of the century.
Most likely, the Chinese population will halve in 40-50 years. But if they follow South Korea and end up with a TFR of 0.8, then they will halve their population in just 20 years.
💯 left exactly for the same reason where QOL will get affected for all in the future...when a army of new people will overload and overpopulate that land
Yes that's what most Indians don't seem to understand for some reason. Mark Mobius, the pioneer of emerging market investing has said that India is a prematurely aging society.
I'll quote, "Yet what’s so interesting about the data is that India, which is about 15 or 20 years behind Southeast Asia in affluence terms, actually has a lower rate of population growth than Southeast Asia. In fact, India’s 15- to 35-year-olds are peaking not in the 2030s like Indonesia; not in the 2050s like the Philippines; India is peaking in three years."
@@JohnSmith-vn8dm By 2050 Western population will exhibit an irreversible birth rate decline that will lead to their extinction. Why are you talking about China? Worry about yourselves
Efforts must be made by the Central Government to reduce the very high birth rate among the three poorest segments of the population in Bihar ( 3.1), Uttar Pradesh, and Jharkhand, some of the poorest parts of the country. A national campaign to promote sterilization, vasectomy, and birth control methods must be EXPEDITED in these three states..
No political party in bimaru states avoids speaking in this subject.but this is the real problem of india.
quality of population does matter.
Nigeria is projected to have 800 Million people in 2100! It is they who should be worried😢
If people survive and don’t get into religious or civil war 😢
This sentence is not racial discrimination, he just simply stated a fact, what he means is that most Chinese labor force is of higher quality than Indian labor force, for example, education level, professional skills. This is due to the fact that China's education is more advanced than yours.
China will use artificial intelligence to replace part of human work in the future. China has already laid out artificial intelligence, so population reduction will not affect China. However, India has not yet completed industrialization, and many things still need to be imported. The Chinese government is far more forward-looking and efficient than the Indian government. Your system predestines everything to move slower than in China. This is why China is developing several times faster than you. In modern society, efficiency equals head start and money.
We have population but not skilled population. Modi government is least concern on Census.
An uneducated population is his trump card. He can brainwash them with propaganda
India ranks 107th out of the 121 countries with sufficient data to calculate 2022 GHI scores. With a score of 29.1, India has a level of hunger that is serious.
Nonsense.
The whole world know india is super power, much better and richer than China.