@@jankfloyd158 Because, DLSS Performance at 4K has the game render at 1080p upscaled to 4K, which looks a lot better than native 1440p. Image is sharp and there's a lot less aliasing. It actually looks better than native 4K in some games!
turn off hdr , and it works , ! Or download newest dlss fg and dlss files and replace them i game folder then you get both hdr and fg . On my rig with rtx 4090 and 13900k above 100 fps with everything maxed out at 4k with path tracing dlss quality and fg . Awesome ps . the game uses old Dlss files that conflict with hdr . Performance with newest dlss files is even better and can use Fg . People that moan about performance are funny … CP is way more heavy with PT like 2-3 times more then Indiana Jones . It’s awesome game with awesome performance.
Its totally playable on 4080S at 4k full RT with Dlss performance + fg, with texture pool size reduced to “high”, everything else at max + force vsync in nvidia controls. I get around 85-110/120 fps. depending on the area. Ryzen 7 9700x, 4080S, 32gb ddr5 Forgot to mention, playing via steam.
@@drsembee not with pathtracing enabled, you’ll be getting around 30-35 fps in heavy scenes on dlss quality, FG wont help here either. Dlss performance is the only acceptable option which gives around 50-58 fps on average + fg, would get you around 80+ in heavy scenes, but get ready for a pretty noticeable input lag there, which sorta manageable if playing with controller, imho ;) And yes, your tex pool size should be at “high” or max “ultra”, to keep the game stutter free.
I'm actually amazed with the results, that the game can even hit 60+ FPS at certain parts of the prologue without looking at the sky or the ground at 1440p. Compare that to Cyberpunk 2077 with Overdrive mode which don't even hit 60 FPS at all without FrameGen at 1080p. Id Software is doing an amazing job with Id Engine 7.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a open-world game with hundreds of NPCs and cars and way more complex architecture and structures then IJ, therefore is way more intense for the CPU and GPU .. you can't just compare way different types of games 1:1 when it comes to perfomance when their design philosophy, genres and what they are trying to do is radically different but yeah I know people rather bitch about games and their perfomances even when they don't understand what they are talking about
Its hitting vram limit even at 1440p. You can see how fps drops when buffer resets.. I really dislike Nvidia for that vram stiginess. They have always been like that but now it probably worst than ever. All it takes is game with high res texture and its game over even for 16gb, its crazy..
You are overexagerating. On my RTX4080S I usually see around 10-12GB VRAM (allocation, not even real usage) at 4K. The highest VRAM usage I saw was in Rathet and clank and crysis 2 remastered (around 14-15GB) and these games run perfrctly fine. However, there are a few games that can run out of VRAM on the 4080S, but only at extremely high settings, which you would not be able to run smoothly anyway. For example cyberpunk at 4K native, with PT and moded textures and gaphics can use around 17-18GB VRAM. The 7900XTX has 24GB VRAM, but do you think VRAM would enable AMD users to play this game smoothly at these settings? As for Indiana Jones, you only need to lower texture steaming budget to high. It will not affect texture resolution however game will finally fit into 16GB VRAM with FG and PT at 4K DLSS Performance (and you need to use DLSS performance in this game to get smooth framerate). BTW- In 2016 I bought the GTX1080 and back then 8GB VRAM was considered plenty, there were however still games that can run out of VRAM on my card if I only tried to run the most demanding games such finan fantasy 15 with insanely high settings that my card couldn run smoothly anyway. 12GB VRAM is a little bit too low for 4K, to close to real VRAM usage, but 16GB VRAM is still plenty, and even if some game can use more you can always lower some settings without affecting image quality in noticeable way.
True, I have 4080, 4K DLSS balanced no matter is it ultra, very ultra, supreme, with Ray tracing on medium and you can get FG to work because VRAM buffer is full, actually your fps degrade to 15-20 fps. As soon you disable ray tracing or go to 1440p FG is working because it has less impact on VRAM. 20GB would have been sweet spot for 4080.
You consider 1440p Balanced Upscaling with FG for 80-90 fps to be fine on a 4080? Especially when the visual return of PT is so small? Also when FG disables itself in cutscenes?
@ So regarding that. It’s a bug. When you change some settings it messes up dlss and frame gen. I had to restart the game to just get frame gen to work correctly when I changed from full screen to wide screen. Their fps should be higher in that scene.
I can’t max the game either on my 4080 with RT Illumination at 4K with DLSS as it will run about 40fps. If I turn that off the game averages 55-65fps. RT in this game is very heavy. Wish they made a 4080 with 18GB or 20GB.
That's how I play Cyberpunk. DLLS balanced with full PT in 4k. I get about 70-90fps. It's totally worth it in that game. Not sure about Indy. I will have to test it myself when the download is finished. EDIT: So with a 4080s and 9800x3d with 6400 Cl32 ram I can only get about 30 fps in 4K DLSS Balanced. I have to switch to 1440p and DLSS Quality to get 90-110fps Which is pretty good regardless. But it's not as crisp as 4k. And to be quite honest, I'm not sure if I really see a difference between basic RT and full RT.
I have a 4080s and 9800x3d but I’m not getting anywhere near these fps. I am getting like 40fps that too not stable. Settings: very ultra, DLSS quality, 1440p, FG on Saw some comments saying that it’s bugged on game pass
It is because of the new feature called "RT Indirect ilimination" that same feature was added into Star wars outlaws and once it was turned on the FPS was dropped A LOT! games like Cyberpunk and Black myth wukong use Path tracing, but they do not have that feature in them.
I was having a similar issue with frame gen on the gamepass version. I went into options and toggled up scaling to native TAA, then back to dlss and it started working.
Strange im using geforce now ultimate that uses 4080 and im getting 60fps in all of the game ive played was in giza when patch updated at 4k dlss quality mode all maxed out just with RT reflections switched off but path traced lighting and shadows on. Try turning RT reflections off saves a load of performance for not much loss.
Exactly this as i was about to comment here and saw your reply. It's just 16gb is not enough for 4K path tracing, just reducing poll size setting to medium or high would help bypass the issue and only 4090 currently can do 60fps with maxed out settings.
@Cliffgamerz 4080 bros trying to do 4090 settings and then complaining... Thats what Max settings mindset does to people. Reducing texture cache and Ultra PT to High would yield great improvements to playability. The games shadows without PT suck its a major improvement. But your moving past reflections so fast its barely worth the huge cost and game has already good RTGI so it's also hardly worth it. Shadows are where this PT shines strong, and you dont even need Ultra PT shadows either to improve over baseline nonPT shadows, Medium or High is ample to beat baseline shadows and improves fps from Ultra and reduces VRAM costs.. But "Muh Ultra..."
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FG doesn't work on Game Pass version...
4K 4080 with DLSS performance applied and still not getting 30 frames. (Texture Ultra)
Is there a diff between Ultra Textures vs Supreme? Seems like Supreme takes up a lot of VRAM. Maybe it's overkill with the 4080.
Why do ppl insist on playing in 4k just to render the game at 720p? I will never understand this, 1440p is the sweet spot for games.
@@jankfloyd158 Because, DLSS Performance at 4K has the game render at 1080p upscaled to 4K, which looks a lot better than native 1440p. Image is sharp and there's a lot less aliasing. It actually looks better than native 4K in some games!
turn off hdr , and it works , ! Or download
newest dlss fg and dlss files and replace them i game folder then you get both hdr and fg . On my rig with rtx 4090 and 13900k above 100 fps with everything maxed out at 4k with path tracing dlss quality and fg . Awesome
ps . the game uses old Dlss files that conflict with hdr . Performance with newest dlss files is even better and can use Fg . People that moan about performance are funny … CP is way more heavy with PT like 2-3 times more then Indiana Jones . It’s awesome game with awesome
performance.
@@MasterRyan97 yes, that's it
Its totally playable on 4080S at 4k full RT with Dlss performance + fg, with texture pool size reduced to “high”, everything else at max + force vsync in nvidia controls. I get around 85-110/120 fps. depending on the area.
Ryzen 7 9700x, 4080S, 32gb ddr5
Forgot to mention, playing via steam.
Why force vsync in nvidia controls and not use V sync in the game?
@ cant enable vsync and FG simultaneously in game settings. Gotta force it via nvidia.
So the problem is caused by too heavy textures? I have an RTX4080 too, is the game playable @ DLSS Quality lowering texture quality?
@@drsembee not with pathtracing enabled, you’ll be getting around 30-35 fps in heavy scenes on dlss quality, FG wont help here either. Dlss performance is the only acceptable option which gives around 50-58 fps on average + fg, would get you around 80+ in heavy scenes, but get ready for a pretty noticeable input lag there, which sorta manageable if playing with controller, imho ;)
And yes, your tex pool size should be at “high” or max “ultra”, to keep the game stutter free.
Pretty sure you didn't turn on FULL RT aka path tracing with these numbers.
I'm actually amazed with the results, that the game can even hit 60+ FPS at certain parts of the prologue without looking at the sky or the ground at 1440p. Compare that to Cyberpunk 2077 with Overdrive mode which don't even hit 60 FPS at all without FrameGen at 1080p. Id Software is doing an amazing job with Id Engine 7.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a open-world game with hundreds of NPCs and cars and way more complex architecture and structures then IJ, therefore is way more intense for the CPU and GPU .. you can't just compare way different types of games 1:1 when it comes to perfomance when their design philosophy, genres and what they are trying to do is radically different but yeah I know people rather bitch about games and their perfomances even when they don't understand what they are talking about
Its hitting vram limit even at 1440p. You can see how fps drops when buffer resets.. I really dislike Nvidia for that vram stiginess. They have always been like that but now it probably worst than ever. All it takes is game with high res texture and its game over even for 16gb, its crazy..
You are overexagerating. On my RTX4080S I usually see around 10-12GB VRAM (allocation, not even real usage) at 4K. The highest VRAM usage I saw was in Rathet and clank and crysis 2 remastered (around 14-15GB) and these games run perfrctly fine. However, there are a few games that can run out of VRAM on the 4080S, but only at extremely high settings, which you would not be able to run smoothly anyway. For example cyberpunk at 4K native, with PT and moded textures and gaphics can use around 17-18GB VRAM. The 7900XTX has 24GB VRAM, but do you think VRAM would enable AMD users to play this game smoothly at these settings? As for Indiana Jones, you only need to lower texture steaming budget to high. It will not affect texture resolution however game will finally fit into 16GB VRAM with FG and PT at 4K DLSS Performance (and you need to use DLSS performance in this game to get smooth framerate). BTW- In 2016 I bought the GTX1080 and back then 8GB VRAM was considered plenty, there were however still games that can run out of VRAM on my card if I only tried to run the most demanding games such finan fantasy 15 with insanely high settings that my card couldn run smoothly anyway. 12GB VRAM is a little bit too low for 4K, to close to real VRAM usage, but 16GB VRAM is still plenty, and even if some game can use more you can always lower some settings without affecting image quality in noticeable way.
True, I have 4080, 4K DLSS balanced no matter is it ultra, very ultra, supreme, with Ray tracing on medium and you can get FG to work because VRAM buffer is full, actually your fps degrade to 15-20 fps. As soon you disable ray tracing or go to 1440p FG is working because it has less impact on VRAM. 20GB would have been sweet spot for 4080.
Glad I'm not the only one! My 4080 is also VRAM capped when Full RT is on (even if I only have 1 of the RT features, it's pretty unstable).
Seems just fine to me. Why did you say it can’t handle it? Trying to do some click baiting?
Bc 90% of the video is 1440p with "balanced" upscaling for whatever reason. Skip to the end when he switches to 4k and fps goes sub 30
You consider 1440p Balanced Upscaling with FG for 80-90 fps to be fine on a 4080? Especially when the visual return of PT is so small?
Also when FG disables itself in cutscenes?
@ absolutely. Path Tracing is insanely heavy.
@ So regarding that. It’s a bug. When you change some settings it messes up dlss and frame gen. I had to restart the game to just get frame gen to work correctly when I changed from full screen to wide screen. Their fps should be higher in that scene.
@@raresmacovei8382 Is the return small? The shadows look amazing.
I can’t max the game either on my 4080 with RT Illumination at 4K with DLSS as it will run about 40fps. If I turn that off the game averages 55-65fps.
RT in this game is very heavy. Wish they made a 4080 with 18GB or 20GB.
That's how I play Cyberpunk. DLLS balanced with full PT in 4k. I get about 70-90fps. It's totally worth it in that game. Not sure about Indy. I will have to test it myself when the download is finished.
EDIT: So with a 4080s and 9800x3d with 6400 Cl32 ram I can only get about 30 fps in 4K DLSS Balanced. I have to switch to 1440p and DLSS Quality to get 90-110fps Which is pretty good regardless. But it's not as crisp as 4k. And to be quite honest, I'm not sure if I really see a difference between basic RT and full RT.
I have a 4080s and 9800x3d but I’m not getting anywhere near these fps. I am getting like 40fps that too not stable.
Settings: very ultra, DLSS quality, 1440p, FG on
Saw some comments saying that it’s bugged on game pass
It is because of the new feature called "RT Indirect ilimination" that same feature was added into Star wars outlaws and once it was turned on the FPS was dropped A LOT! games like Cyberpunk and Black myth wukong use Path tracing, but they do not have that feature in them.
Cyberpunk 2077 does have indirect illumination when path tracing is enabled.
4080 here, many blurry textures with HD textures installed, flickering on HDR and no FG, all is maxed. Game pass version. Wtf?
I was having a similar issue with frame gen on the gamepass version. I went into options and toggled up scaling to native TAA, then back to dlss and it started working.
What is the vram usage at 1440p native max settings path tracing?
Strange im using geforce now ultimate that uses 4080 and im getting 60fps in all of the game ive played was in giza when patch updated at 4k dlss quality mode all maxed out just with RT reflections switched off but path traced lighting and shadows on. Try turning RT reflections off saves a load of performance for not much loss.
Looks like ur VRAM skipping frames,.. What about Lower Texture pool (cache) down a step and use High PT not Full Res PT and try again?
Exactly this as i was about to comment here and saw your reply. It's just 16gb is not enough for 4K path tracing, just reducing poll size setting to medium or high would help bypass the issue and only 4090 currently can do 60fps with maxed out settings.
@Cliffgamerz 4080 bros trying to do 4090 settings and then complaining...
Thats what Max settings mindset does to people. Reducing texture cache and Ultra PT to High would yield great improvements to playability.
The games shadows without PT suck its a major improvement. But your moving past reflections so fast its barely worth the huge cost and game has already good RTGI so it's also hardly worth it.
Shadows are where this PT shines strong, and you dont even need Ultra PT shadows either to improve over baseline nonPT shadows, Medium or High is ample to beat baseline shadows and improves fps from Ultra and reduces VRAM costs..
But "Muh Ultra..."
Man I hope RTX 3090 can handle this at 1440p DLSS B or Q at 40 fps with path tracing.
i think it could, it has enough vram and that means a lot in this game
Any difference in graphics?
more pixels on 4K :D
playing on 4070ti super 16gb , 21:9 3440x1440 all ultra with full pathtracing mostly 80fps wiith dlss / fm OFF .
This game is vram eater😂
why would it?
I don’t see these settings on my 4070
The game got an update 3 hours ago. If you are on the latest version it should be there for you
Too much fake lighting in this game for path tracing to shine.
Maybe Ray Reconstruction is the solution
30 fps for such cinematic games is perfectly acceptable though
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