Why Trent Needs to Leave Liverpool (And Join Real Madrid)
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025
- I really enjoyed this take and I think that a lot of fans could do with some perspective right now...so let's talk
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Thing that annoys me most with Trent is that he can defend, 95% of the time it’s purely a lack of effort. It always has been, for years. He loved having the ball but simply can’t be arsed to help his team defensively
@danielcooper3868 He seen Konate was back and couldn't care less for defending against United.
...see how he gets on at Madrid defending like that - the abuse he received the other night will feel like tough love...
@@leolovetopartyno one is allowed to down tools at Madrid. He will be bench if he is not defending
@danielcooper3868 I couldn't agree more on this. Spot On!
Was just about to comment this, if he is in front of someone, he has you, if you get passed him, which is easy since he kinda just jogs on, you will cook him, i.e. good vs dribblers, VERY bad vs Pace (i.e. Dalot cooked him, Cunha/Eze/Martinelli did not)
Pissing off to Madrid for glory is possibly the least “revolutionary” thing a player can do…
yeah but they don't care about that, Madrid= Massive fame, crazy salary /sponsors and you will need less effort to win individual trophies like ballon d or. Nothing related with pure football tho.
What Trent doesn't realise is that Real madrid would show him no mercy after a bad game. They've booed bigger talents.
If he played like he did against man united in El clasico, real madrid fans would blow his car up
To be fair, the Bernabeu may be more forgiving these days. Mbappe has dropped some real stinkers, and they haven't booed him yet. The Ultras have been sidelined, I think.
Liverpool fans ain’t show much mercy right now tbh.
Madrid won’t be much worse.
Oh the booing will come fast. He better be prepared.....Trent should call Gareth Bale and ask him for advice. Trent is replaceable, I want him to stay (I think) but we can replace him. Mo and VVD cannot be replaced at the moment.
They booed CRISTIANO RONALDO.
In his PRIME.
The only man capable of going goal for goal with Messi, and they booed him.
If Trent ever dropped a shocker like he did on Sunday, they might crucify him honestly.
At Madrid without the system Klopp designed, and a tactically aware, extremely hard working midfield who cover his lapses .
He becomes yesterdays news and a could of been generational talent.
Robbo got similar numbers to Trent over a similar time frame .
Trent didn't redefine right back klopps foresight and system did.
I've seen the future.
2026 UCL final. Bradley shuts down Mbappe. Trent falls asleep at the back post while Gakpo ghosts in and taps in from a Mo Salah cross.
Trent went to Madrid so he could lift Liverpool's Real Madrid curse.
(yes I'm delusional and yes this is a joke)
your delusion is feeding mine😁 I can see it! just need Courtois to retire first
Hes done a couthino/suarez. He'll be gone in 2 weeks
Suarez played out of his mind for an entire season and dragged a mediocre midifleld and defense to inches of the PL title.
My guy broke down in tears when our title hopes were buried at Palace. He cared. Coutinho? Meh.
@stevendchu suraez was amazing...
But liverpool refused to sell him to Barca....a club he'd been desperate to move to, so he went to old faithful and bit bit Chelinni in the world cup.
Liverpool sold him that summer.
he states 'them passes trent does will be seeing all over the world at madrid' I wonder if he knows that Liverpool have been rated the most watched Club worldwide, Madrid fans were shitting on Trent during the Klopp era because we never beat them. Now theyre singing his praises, Madrid fans are the most 2faced fans in the world. Leaving Liverpool would be a huge mistake for Trent. Madrid simply are not special as Arne Slot proved with that 2-0 win. Other clubs build players into pure talent just for Madrid to bully their way into an easy contract putting in no work on that player. Madrid wouldnt want Trent if he wasnt free. Madrid dont value Trent the same way Liverpool do
The 4d chess that surrounds Trent is nauseating. "do the normal rules still apply" is so gross.Starting to think he's perfect for Madrid (that's supost to be an insult). He has been a first team player for 7 years and he hasn't spent one summer focused on his defensive game.
The question is, do we lose more as a team, aka do we miss his assists, goals, Hollywood passes to Salah/Diaz counter attacks, Corner and free kicks? Or
Do we benefit more having a solid superior defensive right back there with a half decent shot and half decent cross on him?
Tricky.
I think we miss more. The number of times we won games because of his magic is far more appearant than those games that we've lost because of him.
@@86Brasco normally I’d say he’s worth it but im feeling like a scorned lover now that it appears he’s leaving. I never expected Trent to be a great defender. He just never became a better one than how he started.
Yeah, throwing hundreds of millions at “galacticos” is really innovative and revolutionary 😂
So the tldr of this guy's entire video is- liverpool are in relative terms a provincial footballing backwater and don't offer a large or large-minded enough platform for trent's outsized galactico talents, so they don't deserve him, only a properly big club can give him the stage he needs, he was born for bigger things than liverpool. Never mind that trent said his dream has always been to captain the team, he doesn't know his best interests, so get out of your comfort zone lad and see the world.
What a load of disrespectful tripe that feeds into the pompous self-image that madrid have of themselves/the contempt they hold for the rest of the footballing world.
Cause his ego is bigger than the club. He wants personal goals he wants status and fame.
Kyle walker gets £175,000 a week. Trent wants double that. Left backs or right backs just don't get the big bucks.
Trent is different. Kyle Walker cost them £50 million.
Trent cost us nothing in transfer fees.
Lastly Trent is a bit special and an outlier compared to every full back world wide.
Until United Trents defending has been very good. The attacking part is just next level. That's what you pay for. Should he be on 300k no. But again we've never paid a transfer fee and during our golden Klopp years he was never one of the highest paid players.
@redmed10 doesnt Walker also receive 'consultancy' fees or whatever you wanna call it, to make up the difference?
Did you even sit a maths test at school, plus this figure is AI generated, do a bit more
@@86Brasco exactly! One bad game and Trent is treated like Liverpools worst ever player. Been good this season defensively, and I’m pretty sure that was just fatigue.
Most of the players were quite fatigued.
But more so than everybody, Trent has the most explicit attack and defence responsibility. He has to create attacks and track back to defend. Not surprising he gets fatigued, considering his replacement has been injured.
Anyway Trent is special and also a leader.
Kyle ain’t special on that City’s team.
@@86BrascoYou lost me after that good defending. His position was the weakest part of Klopp's team for years that everybody knows and exploited.
The la Liga schedule is so enticing ! Madrid can actually lose six league games , take winter vacation and still win league .. 😂
Trent is the example of a typical old school 442 Right midfielder. If this type of positioning was exploited more it would save him a load of defensive responsibility.
The spanish league isn't strong as the Premier league, lets face it. But, if he wants a tan, warm climate country spain - Madrid is a perfect place. It hits 36 degrees regularly in May - to September, a life style change, its what he's looking for. Plus, his pal jude bellingham is there.
Bale went
Owen went
Mcmanaham went
Beckham went
Alonso went
Macherano went
Bellingham went
Let him go.
Liverpool need a player who can play anywhere at the back, a leader. Only then, can they be a stronger position.
Lol... spanish team always beat english team.... english team have better pr than laliga and money...unless english team dominate champion league and Europa league like italian and spanish league done in the past...your league is not better bcoz middle team like villareal and sevilla beat Liverpool, man utd and arsenal in europa league and won
FYI this guy is acting like Trent would get all of this glory and praise in Madrid - comparing him to Beckham… the fans who literally booed CR7 regularly 😂😂brain dead ☠️
Don't forget how they treated Benz and bale 😂
@ the video is just rage bait - all of it - Real Madrid fans are legit the worst fans in the world
@@chrischan3448lol...their club has standards and your club don't..they hold player accountable for their stinking performance and players are paid in million to do one thing to win trophies...why should we need defend players who are not giving 100%... madrid is not sentimental club and for them club is everything....that is why they are king of Europe not your club and people like are jealous bcoz players are attracted to madrid not your shitty club who won 1 title in 30+ years
As an RM fan, I will never blame anyone for not understanding us and our culture of being critical of our players. But this is getting really entertaining now. We just came along and they themselves are destroying their player's legacy..just because the player hasn't publicly rejected Real Madrid. They want him to say no. That's all.
My take on this is simple: Trent looks down on his hometown and by extension, he looks down on himself. He just doesn't realizes this and that's all there is to it. Liverpool can become the richest and best club in the world, but to him, it'll still be too small for him. He is not seeing it in footballing terms. He has lost his way imho and his brain is clouded by all his wants and how he sees himself (in terms of personal endorsements/more money and the attention he craves for). It is all him him him and his celebrity status right now and not the evolution of his game nor the club. He needs to develop intellectually tbh and not be so easily taken in by the supposed glitz and glamour, I really did think he was smarter than that. I was wrong.
- a fan from Asia since the early 80s.
I smell a Coutinho scenario here.
There is an old saying... "If you get a reputation as being an early riser.. you can sleep till noon."
"Why do we bow down to RM" because they dominate the champions league, and most players want to go there because they know they have a great chance to win it. I do agree with all your criticisms of the video I think Trent should stay I'm a huge believer in club legends.
Well, Real Madrid knows Trent is defensively venerable
But we have Fede, Tchoumeni and Rudiger around him to help Trent
Trent's main job will be to provide long balls and crosses to Mbappe, Vini, Rodrygo and Bellingham. And these forwards will finish the rest of the job
There are 2 scenarios for Trent's career at Real Madrid if he joins:
1. Below average career
4 years in Madrid and then leave
1 UCL, 2 Leagues, total 8 trophies
2. Great career
8 years in Madrid
3 UCLs, 5 Leagues, total 20 trophies
Of course, he will have money, fame, legacy and titles in Madrid
This is 'Once in a lifetime' opportunity for Trent
I admire the resistance Loz shows for not bowing down to Madrid and not accepting comparisons
Laurence, i need to know where you got that jacket from. I need it. Thanks! And great video
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These clowns desperately trying to show Real Madrid as Bad Guys because Real Madrid signing their player??
What a clowns
Tbh Madrid have a GREAT transfer record. Surely they know trent can't defend for them - a team who defends deep and plays counter in the ucl
So they've either promised him midfield position (kroos role) OR as he's a free they can cash in on him at any moment
he will never play CM. The staff is too good and too broad for that. And he's just not good enough there. You have to react to Carvajal's serious injury. Precisely because Vazquez is far too bad. Next year Trent will compete with Carvajal and if he plays like he did before his injury it will be very difficult to assert himself as a regular player
@Ricardinho1414 Carvajal is 32 though and it's been a huge injury. Agreed though. Carvajal is a better rb for real any day of the week
@@86Brasco I'm not Trent's biggest fan. But in the current situation, Trent is simply a market option that has to be taken. It will be exciting to see who will prevail next year. The main thing is that I don't have to see Vazquez anymore...
Yk its a good day when you post a vid, love the content brother keep at it!
Here's a hot take. Trent's best days are behind him and anyone foolish enough to sign a huge contract with him will not get their money's worth. I really hope he goes to Real so we can get his replacement now. Let's not get stuck with a player on ridiculous wages and in decline for the next 5 years. That's United's expertise. I think we can all understand why this prediction will never be taken seriously from the main stream. If you just look at the numbers there is nothing wrong with Trent. But mark my words, whether he signs a new contract with Liverpool or Real Madrid, he's going to have stinker after stinker seasons for the rest of his career. He was thrown into the first team too young and played too many games. His best days are behind him and Liverpool should just accept their losses and move on asap. We will look like the winner at the end of all this once he's nothing more than a "Rashford" for Real Madrid.
You said Madrid only signs finished products
Here is a list of players they opted for ever since English clubs (and psg) started getting taken over by owners and competing in transfer window for prime players wasn’t feasible for Madrid
Vinicius 18 year old youngster from Brazil
Rodrygo 18 year old youngster from Brazil
Militao 21 yo from porto
Camavinga 18 from rennais
Guler jude brahim Fede I can keep going
None of these were finished products, they risked their money betting on them because of how horrendous hazard transfer has turned out
Which of the people on that list represents anything near a risk for Real Madrid???
Madrid has lost Cristiano and had Vinicius starting under a care taker manager in solari and the same happened when hazard failed
He had one of the worst runs for a winger for 3 seasons and then he popped off, Rodrygo was our starting right winger when bale was put aside
For the standards Madrid hold, it was indeed risking their glory having literal prospects starting for them in all competitions during the 18-21 period.
Madrid bet all their money on Jude WITHOUT signing a Striker when Benzema left. I bet not one soul knew Jude had a 23 goal season in him.
That’s the point I am trying to say, they don’t sign galacticos anymore, they believe in signings high profile youth prospects who may or may not achieve what’s expected from them.
This also has failures in rennier, and not using Ødegaraad and llorente who eventually left
@@AbhayKumar_9 'I bet not one soul knew Jude had a 23 goal season in him'.... every club in the world wanted Jude. He went to the very biggest. It is as simple as that.
"Vinicius was one of the best players in the world, you bought him because of that", what are you waffling? Vinicius Jr might have been considered one of the best talents in the world but he was never close to the best player in the world, he was 16 when he was bought. Rodrygo too, Valverde too was 5m & was just a kid with a high pitch voice for a teen.
Vini cost 40m at 16…change that for football inflation and tell me that’s not an insane amount to spend on a 16 yr old…saying that he was not highly rated is just dishonest. You don’t drop 40m on a kid with no promise.
@@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC You're being incredibly disingenuous here. There's a difference between being highly rated as a youngster and being called one of the best players in the world. Genuinely take some time to inform yourself on the narratives that surrounded Vinicius Jr in Brazil before he signed for Madrid. You'll come to find that there weren't as many believers in that kid as you had initially thought.
@@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC You as a club dropped over 80 million on Nunez who was over 20 & was more raw than Vini was at 16.
Nunez had & still has so much to improve, his talent is less obvious than a 16 year old Vinicius Jr.
You're supposed to be a supporter of a big club, do you know what's the hardest thing for a club to do? It's transition to a new era without a decline. Your club tried to rise to its glory days for 30-40 years, to get close to the 80s.
Vinicius Jr was cheap for what he achieved.
Chelsea tried to do the same thing as Real Madrid but even more extreme. Most clubs are now paying attention to 16 year old talents with developing them into players for the main team where they can contribute for 10-15 years at the peak.
You are trying to make one of the cheapest & innovative ways that changed football into some kind of greedy, corrupt shit.
Vinicius Jr was laughing stock for 2 years or so, Real Madrid developed him into the best player in the world.
at RM he will not have to defend. As a LIV fan (here in LA, CA, USA), I ❤ Liverpool and have a Diaz #7 shirt that I proudly wear around and will miss TAA alot if he leaves. 😢😢😢😢
Really cannot stand trents arrogance the last year, thinking he is to good to do the dirty work.
Trent will flopp there and FSG wont buy him back. He will end up a journey man like Owen, Philippe Coutinho etc.
Just an example: Konate had to play the entire match after an injury and everyone knew and saw that it was still difficult for him. What did Trent do? He chose not to defend instead of helping him. That says it all.
He is doing what says instructed by the manager. He's also been brilliant defensively this season so one game doesn't change that. Stop being such a reactionary idiot
Sell trent, his a defensive liability, he's been dribbled past the most in prem hiatory and the most in europes t5 leagues in a single season.
After he sabotaged the game he must go
We tend to view Trent through Scouse tinted glasses
I'm a new fan, and for what I heard and read, TAA wasn't a pure RB, right? He's been playing in that position for years but... he does not feel it. What if he gets into the place he needs to be? Just a thought.
Is there any chance he is a right midfielder? Not right wing striker like salah, but old school right midfield like how wingers used to be in late 90’s early 2000’s.
If salah wasn’t about I think there would be a good argument to move him forward and have a more defensive player behind him at right back.
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And classless things Real Madrid did??
In fact, Real Madrid doing same things as other clubs??
His head is clearly gone, and he will affect the team negatively. We could already see this in how VVD reacted to Trent's efforts in the last game. VVD and salah are in the same situation and giving 110 % while Trent is clearly not focused anymore. Unceremoniously sell hin for whatever now or bench him and start using Bradley
1. Because he cannot defend.
2. Because he didnt win a single duel on purpose against Man U.
3. Because he thinks he's better than the club
4. Because he is super overrated.
5. Because he does NOT deserve a 300k or something
6. Because he cannot even play properly in midfield
7. Because he does NOT track back.
8. Because he is lazy.
He’ll be playing in Saudi within 3 years.
Always said Trent would end up at Madrid when all the other LFC supporters said Bellers was coming to us
The big mistake Trent has made, which shows his immaturity is making his brothers his agents (someone said it was his Dad but I think it is his brothers), he has obviously done it to save money but it was the wrong move as they are giving him bad advice. I don't see him succeeding at RM, he isn't outgoing and if Jude was injured or for whatever reason moved on he'd be isolated. Carlo won't be there much longer either. He got taken apart by a very average MU side, RM fans are the worst for turning on their own players. Something, or someone has turned him into a big head, I think Klopp going is a factor as well, he'd have sorted this.
Trent will be at Leicester in two years. And I'll be there.
majority of people around the world view real madrid as the peak of club football. that is a fact wether u hate it, love it, agree or disagree with it. and im not a real madrid fan btw.
lol majority belief doesn’t make something true/blanket experience.
@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC in this case it absolutely does. no other club able to get s tier players for free/that cheap. its because players want to play for real madrid if the opportunity comes. they are a level above city, liverpool, bayern and every single club because most ppl (players included) view them different and that is what puts them there.
Laz is really clueless about La Liga huh??
I know you as knowledgeable on alot of things but you clearly out in the ocean with this topic because you don't realize how you are exposing your lack of info....
But maybe it's just a culture thing.....The British refuse to acknowledge or learn from others
What have I spoken about in this video which even slanders La Liga at all?
@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC mate it's alot.....you really should watch more la liga.
And then when they do play English teams u will understand why they beat you guys rather than make certain assumptions based on what you think you know
Have you even genuinely asked yourself why your head to head with Spanish teams is so lopsided??
agreed,British people just cant accept that Real Madrid is 2 times bigger than their league no matter how much attention the premier league gets
@@chiefmwase4562there are many reasons why that is the case but that doesn’t represent overall league strength or, as I’m saying, intensity of the league which does represent value to fans, globally.
@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC you say it doesn't represent overall League Strength but when you look at the Europa league....the head to head is still in favour of Spanish teams.
Look am clearly a la liga fan and I enjoy watching your content because its not the typical English analysis of football because YOU actually give greater context tactically and intellectually. Its very similar to la liga analysts actually and the guy in the video your breaking down made a fantastic point about how much more the spanish would glorify TAAs plays, passes and creativity, which the English just don't do. The English value intensity and passion while spanish value beauty and tactical intelligence, which is probably a cultural difference.
My advice for what it's worth is just make an effort to consume more La Liga and you will understand why Madrid fans are coming at you because I guarantee you your current opinions will evolve. Try and understand their football culture, I sincerely believe there's an opportunity here to even expand your content and fanbase by exploring a whole different football world.
Trent could possibly be a star in Real Madrid if he only needed to make long passes in a game. After some goals conceded in the first match he would got buried by the papers. He has that foot but if he doesn't even try getting in the way of United scoring the goals on Anfield then he shouldn't be defended by supporters. Maybe you're no great defender but try at least get in the way, he is not willing or maybe able to do that and that's not enough.
I have no problem with Trent moving. I think the fans are probably a bit sour that if he was going to go it would have been nice to have got some money for a world class talent.
I am also slightly sour about the current machinations. If he wants to go then just say so and don't try and make out the club don't want you to stay. For me, and I I understand not all Liverpool fans, it's fine for Trent to want to get a wider experience, to leave home, to play with different players. Lots of people do well in their Job and then change employer to do something else. Good luck too him if he goes but stop the polticking, and please put in a shift every week until you leave.
yeah because owen and macca both realised their potential at Real Madrid
Do you think Slot has dialed back what Trent is capable of (through game planning, positioning, etc.) to prepare in case we needed to replace Trent. If he stays Slot may have some tricks up his sleeve.
Liverpool is global looking inward towards Liverpool. The others are looking outward. They are global because they want to be global. Liverpool are global because people from everywhere identify with who Liverpool are.
Trent wants and believes in a B'allon D'or. I question whether more praise at 26, is the way to get that. Yes Madrid will concentrate on what he can do, but theyll have to compromise to get him in the team. Trent has been dribbled past 33 times this season (the most in the top flight) playing for a team that compromises for him, how long and how many goals conceded before Madrid turns?
why be a club legend when you can be a world legend? that's what madrid makes players.
TAA is a RB right?
what is the first job of a RB?
And what if you couldn’t fulfil your main role at work at the standard required, would your employer pay you more because you do other things amazingly?
Is TAA not subject to performance development in an area he struggles at to level with other things he’s so good at?
How can you become better at another firm doing the same job if you didn’t improve your obvious deficiencies at your previous employer?
Is criticism not allowed if you are not doing your primary role well..how can you fix a problem you cannot admit you have?
As much as we all want to improve in life and get the best we can..doesn’t an evaluation of previous and potential future goals need to be addressed?
Finally, we all should be respected for our life choices and what we want to do, but should we forget where we came from and who helped us along the way and not give thanks and respect to those people or establishments when we move on, as we didn’t just do it on our own?
TAA can do what he likes, but this idea he will be better elsewhere because of the destination, and not addressing the shortcomings and expecting those issues to improve just like that is a naive way of doing things, no matter how amazing you think you or someone else is, we criticise our loved ones to do the utmost best, because we care and love them, Liverpool or any other club do not always get things right, but if thy have helped raise you up to a level the world notices, repay them back with respect and thanks, no matter your self worth, as you never know when you will need them again!!
Good luck TAA, stay humble and you can achieve further, no matter where you end up!!
One thing missing in this whole discussion is whether Liverpool want to keep him and are actually pushing him out
I understand that you are disappointed but to say Real Madrid only buys finished players is simply wrong. Look at the starting eleven. Who was a finished player? Yeah Trent and Mbappe are in their mid-20s but almost all the players before that were brought in between the ages of 16-22 and then developed. The only players who are at the end of their development are the older, free transfer players like Rüdiger or Alaba. Please stick to the facts and don't make anything up...
@Ricardinho1414 I think he meant that they don't do the undermining of growing talents from academy age, players like trent, phil, yamal, and so, but rather cash out on names that have generational talent at certain things, vini and Rodrigo's crazy dribbling and so, what also strengthens the fact that real madrid isn't exactly known for growing talents, the fact that they passed on big players odegard, theo. But nonetheless, I think there was a spin of bias on his side you know as a liverpool fan.
Madrid have always bought talent someone else has developed
All of those players they brought in were considered generational talents and cost a lot of money
@@nivkejk7303they are 17 in transfer market money spent which are below 6 or 7 premier league team
When Real signed Vinicius he wasn't even considered the best talent coming out of Brazil just a guy with potential people didn't understand why RM where going after him and for the money he was going for as well he was considered a bit of a joke for a while in Brazil when he was playing there
No.
@thetraveldrunk ?
Something to add, is that your mate, who I assume is a Real supporter and expert(?) failed to point out that if Alonso takes over at Real, Trent could be playing as a right wing back. Unless he feels he could play in a back 3, and if so, good luck to him and real...
Feelgood factor is currently gone. If you don’t have buckets of cash like the 115 club you need a feelgood factor to win the PL on top of players and results. Being honest I feel bad for the abuse TAA got from the fans against Manu but that goes with the territory if you’re slow dancing with Real Madrid. Unless he tells people what’s going to happen he’s a liability and shouldn’t play for the club.
What’s the real point for Trent to stay at Liverpool if he has won with Liverpool every thing other loyalty?!
He’s not a midfield player, because in the ‘modern’ game now, the midfield is expected to get back and defend. AND defend well. He’s not got the brain or personality to be Captain either. The fact is, Trent is burned out, because Klopp players burn bright and burn out early. He’s the past.
Conor Bradley is the new Andy Robertson. For RB.
Let me put it another way: if we as Liverpool fans want Trent to stay, then who will be his backup when he gets injured or loses form? Don’t say Bradley because he isn’t going to hang around for the occasional cameo.
Bradley is the future (he’s 22 yrs old). Trent is the past. Burned out at 27.
So none of the liverpool fans would think Trent will work his ass off when he gets to Madrid because of the demand and motivation of playing for them? Even Mbappe has to work very hard to fit in right now after being treated like a king in PSG. You guys need to understand like any job, when you are motivated you will do everything to improve and for Trent i dont think he is motivated in Liverpool
Trent wont fit their system and the fans there will not tolerate his wandering out of position. Neither a defender nor and midfielder...at Madrid he will be sold after one season but LFC wont have him back after his shenanigans
Resistant to change? In what way? On the pitch or off it?
Personally, I wish FSG would a put a final date on contract talks...don't let Trent sit there and say I'll think about it, I'll think about it, till the end of season and get nothing for him, take the 20 mill and he can go and we move on with Bradley and work on a backup for him!!! But no more agent games back and forth between the two clubs!!!
expanded horizons make a person more rounded. leaving for europe is the best thing for him. he will become a better footballer and person
If they get him for free it’s a free hit for them. If/when he fails they can move him on for £40m plus
You nailed this one
What a load of philosophical nonsense. More people see the PL than they see Madrid. And at Real people get criticized for what they do not do well just as much as in England. If Real start loosing and Trent makes some defensive mistakes he will be booed off the pitch. And Real also do not revolutionize players or the game.
Bro you can't tell me the Madrid isn't the biggest club and call it the old way of thinking when they literally got the UCL last season and when they have everything to prove it is just say you just don't want to see your player go don't disrespect another club just like you don't want others to disrespect yours
I’m gonna guess…Madrid fan?
Yea I am
@@DrawnToLaughter-myc Hala Madrid
@@LaurenceMcKennaonLFCthe current holders of the UCL is still madrid and still competing for all trophy...your team didn't win anything yet mate but act like Liverpool is the best and won everything....look at your own mirror before calling others arrogant.... Liverpool is not even top 5 club in all time ranking 😂
Madrid as of lately to bring players up, "vinicius was already one of the best players in the world" is not true bro he was one of the best in brazil sure but when he came to europe he struggled at first he really had to come up rodrygo didn't struggle as badly as vini but he still was not the rodrygo we see today. Im a madrid fan but i dont even think we already have the best rb imo , we have one who is easily the beat in 1v1 defensively and he can attack very well, hes getting older tho that said Trent Should have a field day at madrid due to all the pace up front, he actually is a good fit because our midfield cover full backs really well and he provide the long-range passing that we desperately need.
Madrid are a joke of a club. They're the most awful club in Europe. If Trent can't see that we don't want him. He was on the field when salah got taken out by Ramos and that's indicative of how they behave try and bully people. Whereas at times I wish we would do more of the dark arts cos we're too honest. Definitely in the klopp era. Innovation isn't demanded they'll quite happily slate players like Bale... I'm sure Bale realises their a joke of a club. I'd actually be okay if trent went anywhere else Barca are a classy club the exact opposite of Madrid.
Your take on Madrid's transfer strategy, is like 10 years old at this point. To say vini was one of the best in the world when they got him is so far from reality I'm not even gonna give you the whole story. They simply buy young and develop superstars. Case and point: valverde, camavinga, vini, tchouameni, rodrygo, mendy, endrick, arda guler, casemiro, etc. They do buy a Bellingham or an mbappe but those are the only two since hazard. Just bugs me how cluless the English are about other teams yet they talk with full confidence with no shame.
They paid €45m for Vini. Don’t even try to make out like that’s not a world class fee for that age and through other hegemony. Endrick cost $39m. Tchouameni cost €80m euros. This insane idea that Real Madrid develop their whole squad is a myth made by the delusional fans around the world who don’t know about football history. So before you do all this “you don’t know” stuff, check your own facts cos I can’t be bothered with this “English narrative” thing which I’m not even sure you understand.
@@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC Vini, rodrygo and endrick were all bought before the age of 18 and stayed in Brasil until they were old enough. I don't know about you but that's literally the youngest they could legally buy them. The price is irrelevant because it's inflation with high demand for that profile is footballers. Arda was 17, valverde, camavinga were 18. So you're saying they just buy the finished article? You don't see a pattern? Madrid's net spend last 5 years is lower than leeds, forest, west ham, aston villa, .... What are you on about?
@ I’m sorry mate, I don’t even know where to start with this comment. You came to me calling me “10” so let’s just agree to disagree because it’s clear that you don’t get what I’m trying to say and you don’t want to hear it, so what are we getting from this???
@@LaurenceMcKennaonLFC that's fair. The thing is I like your stuff and watch your content regularly. I'm a Liverpool fan but unfortunately I'm a Madrid fan first and I don't agree with most of what you said. Still gonna watch and like your vids what's life without disagreements eh. What do you mean called you "10"??? Where?
@@Speed_Rager sorry, I mean 10 years out of date. Madrid spend money and all of those players you listed were the closest to a sure thing that you get. Madrid have power and control, I don’t know why that’s such a difficult thing to admit though? They’re a powerful, political team, that’s fine. They’re not underdogs or shopping for bargains though…so let’s not pretend like they don’t use that status?
Can 450 million Los Blancos fans be wrong 🧐? Less cheekily, I think the point he's gesturing towards (whether he realizes it or not) is that Real Madrid have a consent manufacturing machine at the Bernabeu. A machine their supporters, journalists, and casual lookers on wittingly or unwittingly amplify to the point that they can make tradition look like innovation, classlessness look like class and presumably for Trent, fullbacks into Ballon D'or winners.
I think the response to the Vinicius "snub" is illustrative of the fact they were caught off-guard that their machine did not manufacture the award for Vini - the incredulity and churlishness of the response, briefly lifted the veil of the Madrid mystique.
While this is more than about the award, it's notable that in the past 30+ years there have been exactly 3 Ballon D'or winners in the Premier League, Michael Owen, Christiano Ronaldo, and Rodri - how is it that the supposed "best league in the world," have only produced 3 (okay, technically 7 all time, but 4 of those are ManU players who have a much smaller, slightly broken machine at Old Trafford) such winners in that time, while Barcelona + Madrid have 24 (wins, all time). I cannot accept that they just simply have them or recruit them. Those clubs manufacture them, not as players as you rightly suggested (they come usually as finished articles), but as brands. Trent perhaps wants to be a brand, not just a player.
Maybe he's seen what's happened to Salah (can't even escape the Hazard comparisons), and decided he wants another path, one where's he's publicly evaluated on what he can do, and not what his position on the team sheet says he's supposed to do.
idk this whole video feels a bit superficial, the guy just wants Trent in the end and we don't appreciate him, we are holding him back? I just disagree. As a Liverpool fan i appreciate Trent, I'm only mad cuz i know he isn't 100% at it atm( and you need 100% in elite sports) and we are in a possibly title winning season which he jeopardizes. Yes he's not the only one at fault for this situation, but part of it is still his fault.
Nice respond, and i think Squawka frame it like a film, you know a MC make a decision for the sake of plot, and they think madrid is the end level, then in the final match madrid going to beat an alien football invasion. Squawka sees Liverpool like a first part of the film
i cant stand these modern day football fans selling out to megalomania and megacapitalism the whole time a sad reflection on society today
Salah is known as the best player in the world at minute and on course to win the Balon D'Or it doesn't make sense to say he can't achieve it at Liverpool. At Madrid there is Vini, Bellingham, Mbappe who are all ahead of him in terms of glory
@@BenLeinster salah wont win it.
@@nguyenkhoivuwill happen before the SA world cup
@@nguyenkhoivuRM underdogs 😅😂😊
To clarify my earlier point as you (understandably) misunderstood, I found the original video "cringe" in parts for various reasons.
1. Wrongly stating that Liverpool (of all teams) are resistant to change. You rightly point out that Trent is only known for what he does now BECAUSE of the platform given to him by Klopp. It feels like a disservice to us to make it sound like we're holding him back some how.
2. As you rightly state, Trent has the ability and platform to fulfil his potential to as great a degree with us. If anything, he may even be outshone by the likes of Mbappe, Vini and Jude to a greater degree than he would here.
3. He is so so so wrong about critique in Spain to the point he had me questioning whether he knows about how bad it can get. As much as they celebrate maverick talents there, they don't always vibe with others - look at Gareth Bale. He wasn't always loved by the media and certain sections of the fanbase. There were fans jumping on Mbappe at the start of this season until he got a bit more consistency of late. No one has protected Trent more than our fanbase. When the likes of Gary Neville, Rio, Souness, Keane, Martin Samuel etc were ripping into Trent for his poor defending, we came to bat for him, even sometimes to a fault. He simply won't get that same level of "protection" from criticism at Real Madrid if he makes errors.
Our main issue with him over the weekend wasn't merely because he played badly but because at times it felt like he didn't care. The walking back to position instead of sprinting back - he wasn't alone but he was the worst. Those things just wouldn't be tolerated by Madristas or Marca.
I had other points of contention but I've already written too much. Overall I just felt like he overstated how rigid we are as it pertains to football culture and change and the kinds of players we appreciate.
Appreciate your takes and of course your guy has a right to his opinions. I just vehemently disagree with the overall sentiments espoused.
Apprently tchoumendi is out fav at real and they value him at 45 million ,it wud be win win for everyone especially trent if we swopped him with money
Tchouameni is pants
Well ! If he can’t defend right then we should replace him with a defender , simple as that , I’ll put a center back in his position an forget about the crosses he puts , these crosses doesn’t Lead to goals everytime .
these balls doesnt lead to goals!
You can say that Real Madrid is not very classy club but I can tell you that Real Madrid is not perfect and no club is but it is the most classic club in history for sure. To be fair, can you think of any other club better off the years?!
Celebrated NAVAS on the Bernabeu. No club would do that players that never played for your club.
I can't stress enough how naming things that happen REGULARLY in football, across he globe, makes Real Madrid fans look delusional...
@@LaurenceMcKennaonLFCyou bcoz you hate them does not mean they are the not best club ... Liverpool is nothing in front of real madrid and never will be in this century...if you want to best win more UCL then them
you should watch this guys Mo Salah video it's good
The tuber has good points, but just takes. There is something to be said that while PL is the best league in the world, RM&BFC League is the most popular in the world. As much as City has tried to drag itself and the PL into that world of tiresome Jordan/Lebron debates, they now have 120 charges.
Lots of Liverpool fans in and around Philadelphia. 👍 Up the Reds!
The question is: what does Trent want? Does he want to leave?
Never heard such rubbish. Liverpool one of the most supported clubs in the world as is comfortably in the top 10. Trent has been and is recognised at Liverpool. To say Liverpool are too traditional but we are the ones that allowed him to play his way at right back.
You can blame the club but at the end of the day Trent and Salah are blackmailing the club! They were given new contract offers they did not accept them ! That doesn’t mean they should get what they want! The have been disrespectful and greedy! For that only they should go! We will still be Liverpool! And someone else will take the chance like before!
Notice the guy said he is a fan of Trent (also obvious way he is waxing lyrical over him)
I like him a lot!
"Compared to the artists", until his artistry doesn't produce rewards and his lack of skill in other areas costs them. Then they will cast him out like a leper. Real Madrid fans are so full of it speaking like Real Madrid football is like poetry and everyone elses football is like a jumbled tweet. Liverpool back trent constantly I mean look at nunez also, he is shown love even though he produces very little.
Let him go hold hands in Spain with his lover Bellingham
HOESNETLY WASNT IMPRESSED WITH HIM AT ALL. All hot air circuitious bs.
I have to say, I find his rather earnest, breathy, delivery rather tedious. It's so "look at me, I am saying something that's both new and important". I'd like to see Trent stay, but if he goes I'll get over it.
that guy was baiting for views and Laurence got the bait. He paints the picture like we are talking about Hodgson's Liverpool and Zidane's Real.
He tries to convince us that more people watch la liga than premier league.
Also and this is a PERSONAL point of view, Real are starting to have a decline, Ancelloti will leave and the egos for their players will take center stage
Getting Coutinho vibes,,,,,
Fake scouser can keep crying 😂
Your opinions about what Real Madrid is or isn't comes from an emotional and biased place which is completely fine but you package it in a matter of fact way.
1) Vinicius and Rodrygo were nowhere near European level football when they joined us. Not to mention we have guys like Fede and Carvajal who we've developed to be the best in the world. Did these guys have innate talent that we recognised? Yes for sure but it's not like Trent was some talentless punk in the academy before Klopp found him.
2) When it comes to class , what is your definition of class? Nothing we've done as a club is outside of what's standard.
In fact I'd say the way we treat our legends and older players is much better than a lot of European teams.
Can we get the Fish Eye cam thingy again?
Sure!
Real Madrid is like one of those big business monopolies who get success and hype because of their past successes and hypes and it's a self feeding cycle perpetuated by sheeple fans and pundits. Great players want to go there and keep feeding into that cycle. If they stop buying into the hype, Real Madrid would still be a great club but not a "club which you can't turn down" or "when Real Madrid knocks on a door...". Bale and Hazard got bored af there and even Bale isn't considered legend there and Bale and Hazard would still earn a lot if they kept playing for a long time on high wages and Bale would have transferred to a non Spurs club and earn like Ozil. So, it's not like Madrid makes huge net positive difference to all the players.
Bellingham said in Madrid vs Liverpool prematch press conference that "you don't turn down Real Madrid" and he mist have hyped Madrid to Trent which wasn't even in his mind even a season ago. Yes, in case you didn't notice, I don't like monopolies in society especially when it is earned through outside sheeple and government help (Franco government in case of Madrid). But it is what it is, and one should know how to go about it or fight it.
Your mate’s view of Real Madrid as the pinnacle for Trent Alexander-Arnold is overly romanticized and detached from reality. Positioning Real as *the* global platform in 2025 is misguided-Liverpool and the Premier League arguably have greater global reach and influence, especially given the Premier League's dominance globally.
Real Madrid’s domestic achievements are irrelevant to us unless they face Liverpool in European competitions. Performances against weaker La Liga opposition hold little weight. Furthermore, Trent’s defensive limitations and lack of fit in midfield make it unlikely he’d break into England’s team under Tuchel unless drastic tactical adjustments are made. So, even at Madrid, his global exposure could be limited.
The idea of redefining the right-back role to one where defending is secondary-essentially making Trent a superstar while others cover for his weaknesses-is unrealistic. Football isn’t heading in that direction and Ancelloti and even Alonso won’t go there’, it’s madness.
There’s no competition exclusive to Real Madrid that other global clubs like Liverpool, United, City, or Arsenal can’t compete for. While Real leverage their history well, their methods-such as tapping up players and exploiting free transfers with lucrative sign-on bonuses-are unethical and unsustainable. Their behavior deserves scrutiny as they constantly employ these tactics.
Ultimately, Liverpool will adapt without Trent but if he stays…. In some games, Bradley offers more balance, while Trent’s passing and playmaking shine in other games with weaker attack down our right.
If he leaves for Madrid, so be it-I hope he lives up to his own expectations, and can count his money without the adulation of the fans and destroying his legacy as a Liverpool and Premiership superstar.
Lol... PL is not the best league...you league is the most entertaining league bcoz your league create more drama from refree than any other league and market it... argentina is poor compare to England but they won world cup and similarly just bcoz premiere league is rich it does not they better....win more UCL and Europa league than spanish or italian league and then talk
@ Oh please, Real Madrid would be fighting to make top four, not win the Premiership. You should be on the stage mate, the Real Madrid WORLD ‘TILTED’ STAGE 😂 😂🎉🤣🤣🤣🤣
He had one bad game and now he HAS to go to Real Madrid and leave LFC. Y’all are straight cranked. The weather could definitely have been a factor that game please hold your fuckin horses
You didn’t watch the video lol.
yall
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Because Real Madrid is much bigger club than Liverpool
Everyone knows this, right??