@@KathyskollectablesI wish i was born on the right time to experience these beauties, sadly was born at the time when the 747-400 is the best choice for long hauls and a year before A380 first flew
@@alandpost Supposedly they are keeping Stargazer around as a rapid launch platform for the military in the event of war as Pegasus rockets can be built and launched much faster than other rocket models, so they are making sure Stargazer remains airworthy for a little bit longer.
@@LindaDavies-r1k This jet was far ahead of its time in so many ways including it's ability to withstand huge g forces from such incidents that the plane encountered on this flight with minimal damage. It's too bad it didn't come along just a bit later, it might have been an amazing success sales wise.
Holy hell, the biggest surprise was at the end of the video learning the aircraft involved is Stargazer. I knew it was an ex-Air Canada bird but I had no idea it was ever involved in an incident. Wild that she's still flying as of 2024, the last airworthy L-1011 in the world.
A family friend worked for Air Canada and he told us once of an AC flight from Paris to Toronto whici hit turbulence and dropped several thousand feet - it was able to land safely in Toronto, where the pilot requested ambulances and a clean-up crew - when the clean-up crew boarded, their chief asked if anything needed done first "The drinks trolley" said the pilot "Where is it" the crew chief asked......the pilot pointed to the ceiling - where the trolley was imbedded...
I was lucky to have flown on the L-1011 many times as a kid in the ‘70’s. It is by far my most favorite plane I have ever flown on. I’d choose it before any other wide body. I really miss that plane.
I bought and drove a small truck at 19 years of age to pay for my commercial pilot licence. 25 years later I sat in the left front seat of the L1011-100, sadly only for a couple of years as it was replaced by the A330. I still see the L1011 as the highlight of my career, just wonderful to handle.
Especially 'back in the olden days' radars were iffy and detecting convective activity at that level is pretty difficult - more of an art, guessing and good luck. Thankfully, the technology has advanced somewhat - but clear air turbulence is still extremely hard to predict and detect. Thanks for posting.
The L-1011 was such a beast. My favorite plane of all time. The inside was massive. I think 3-5-3 seating if I'm not mistaken. Maybe even wider. I did my first Flight Attendant on an L-1011. German lady. What a time. Memories.
My stepmother worked for Delta back in the 70's- early 90's. I too, flew a good bit as a child/teenager and young adult. After college, I got on with American Airlines. I worked as a flight attendant. AA didn't have 747's or L-1011's, but I few on both of those aircrafts several times apiece. Beautiful airplanes, and good memories! ❤
When i was 7 years old, my dad And I flew on an LTU airlines L-10-11. I remember how Quiet the planes was. We flew from SFO-DUS. I remember service being great, even in economy class.
I worked at Lockheed in the 70s when the L1011 was being built. Fantastic ahead of its time aircraft. I flew on it several times. I am so happy that one is still flying 😊😊😊
Beautiful bird, that aircraft gave me the biggest rush on takeoff back in the 80s, the acceleration was incredible. I’d love to see that livery again, now you can’t tell if it’s Air Canada or Delta
I've been in a similar situation before. We were divert pretty far south to avoid a line of storms entering the Chicago area, so We went almost as far south as Indianapolis, and then in Illinois, we turned north to Chicago to avoid the storms. Everything was fine other than some moderate turbulence. All of a sudden the plane dropped a little, then about a minute or two latter the plane drooped a lot. It easily dropped a couple thousand of feet, but everyone was seated with their seat belts on, including the crew. We landed at ORD safely and just some light chop passing the back end of the storms. I will never forget the feeling of the plane "falling" during the flight. I was never scared, but I'm sure others were.
Insane that only 1 of these jets is still in service (Which is actually the one involved in this incident). I would think such a technologically advanced jet would still be around in at least limited numbers today, but even the 727 has more models flying…
The L-1011 has been known to be one of the safest airplanes ever built. I wonder how long they plan on using the "Stargazer" L-1011. Hopefully a long time, because this, nowadays would be an "eye-catching airplane wherever it can be seen. The L-1011 certainly was one fine airplane to say the least.
Amen 🙏. My favorite Airplanes DC-10, L10-11, 747, 707, DC-8. Experience in all models. Born a raises in New York 🗽. Born in 1958. Since I was 4 Mom, Sister and myself. New York to Puerto Rico. Amen 🙏.
Flew on Delta's L-1011's twice (and it was my first time in a jumbo). Both flights were unforgettable. Sad that it was taken out of commercial passenger service.
Absolutely, all the time , whenever there’s a problem with the TRI STAR , the cause is the pilot and his crews, the maintenance, ATC , but never ever the manufacturer.
I had never heard of this incident before. Interesting story. As for me, I first flew on an L-1011 in 1974, TWA SFO-JFK. And then quite a few times between New York and Florida on Delta.
I'm confused regarding the flight time. They contact JAX @ 7:15 pm, and they land @ YYZ at 8:50 pm. I thought that would be at least a 2.5 hour flight? Tail winds? Closer to ILM, perhaps? Glad they landed safely back in '83. Great channel and videos, btw. ~Laura
Yeah that thing that pilots need to remember is that thunderstorms form from columns of warm and cold air. There are "inrushing" jets of air and also, in some places around the storm, exiting jets of air. Both of those can cause turbulence to an aircraft.
Superb video... Please will you make a video for Air New Zealand Flight 901 ... When a McDonnell Douglas DC-10 crashed at the site of Mount Erebus on the 28th of November 1979. Flight 901 was designed and marketed as a unique sightseeing experience in Antarctica ..Sadly the DC-10 aircraft Registration ZK-NZP crashed at the site with the loss of 257 passengers and crew. Thank you for this video and indeed this channel.
decades ago, it was believed 3-engine aircraft were cursed. i got in a ticket counter line, with 3 other sailors in chicago, and all 3 of them rescheduled when it was learned the aircraft was an L-1011. creepy--so i did too. it crashed. i know it sounds stupid, but it put the fear of god into me.
So let me get this right. The event happened near Wilmington, NC, and four people were deemed to have been severely injured. Yet it was decided, yeah, let's keep going on to Toronto. What am I missing?
Maybe because they didn't want a plane full of people sitting on a tarmac at a facility that didn't have services for them? I've seen a plane load of people on a diverted international flight have to sit on a plane for 12 hours because the airport had no customs. Just speculating though.
@@johnpollard4158 Even in 1983, Dulles in DC, Philly Int'l, and JFK in NYC all had customs. And all significantly closer than Toronto. Chances are that the people weren't really severely injured.
@@Eternal_Tech Huh? You are suggesting, it seems, that the plane went on to Toronto because getting treated in American was too expensive? You are saying that the captain thought, "well, we have to get these severely injured people we have on board to Canada, because stopping in DC will be too expensive for them. I don't care if they die in the meantime." Seriously????
When a supercell creates a huge updraft, there's usually an adjacent down flow as well, which the plane apparently flew into. Near the ground these are called microbursts.
I've subscribed but just a suggestion: your logo is too wide, too bright, too visible in the top left corner. You should put it in the bottom, use not a white but something like a dark gray, and to put it smaller. Your logo catch the eye and is a nuisance to be fully in the story.
It's interesting that the plane involved in this is the only L-1011 still being used today.
I've flown a couple times on one of these planes. They really are a nice plane.
I didn’t know that ! Sadly I think NASA are retiring it 😢😢
@@KathyskollectablesI wish i was born on the right time to experience these beauties, sadly was born at the time when the 747-400 is the best choice for long hauls and a year before A380 first flew
The Pegasus is no longer price-competitive. It hasn't launched in more than three years.
@@alandpost Supposedly they are keeping Stargazer around as a rapid launch platform for the military in the event of war as Pegasus rockets can be built and launched much faster than other rocket models, so they are making sure Stargazer remains airworthy for a little bit longer.
One of the most beautiful airliners of the jet age, in my opinion. Didn't know the back story of the Stargazer . . .
Agreed, L-1011's are beautiful.
First plane I ever flew on.
@@robs5688 and tough…..
@@LindaDavies-r1k This jet was far ahead of its time in so many ways including it's ability to withstand huge g forces from such incidents that the plane encountered on this flight with minimal damage. It's too bad it didn't come along just a bit later, it might have been an amazing success sales wise.
Gotta say, the L-1011 looks CLEAN in that Air Canada livery.
Nowadays I have to freeze frame to see if it’s Air Canada or Delta, so vanilla
L-1011 was underappreciated as an aircraft
It was the best of the three biggies, according to pilots
if it was up to me they would still be flying today some are in other country s love that jet
It could not compete in range with the DC-10-30.
Holy hell, the biggest surprise was at the end of the video learning the aircraft involved is Stargazer. I knew it was an ex-Air Canada bird but I had no idea it was ever involved in an incident.
Wild that she's still flying as of 2024, the last airworthy L-1011 in the world.
A family friend worked for Air Canada and he told us once of an AC flight from Paris to Toronto whici hit turbulence and dropped several thousand feet - it was able to land safely in Toronto, where the pilot requested ambulances and a clean-up crew - when the clean-up crew boarded, their chief asked if anything needed done first "The drinks trolley" said the pilot "Where is it" the crew chief asked......the pilot pointed to the ceiling - where the trolley was imbedded...
I was lucky to have flown on the L-1011 many times as a kid in the ‘70’s. It is by far my most favorite plane I have ever flown on. I’d choose it before any other wide body. I really miss that plane.
I bought and drove a small truck at 19 years of age to pay for my commercial pilot licence. 25 years later I sat in the left front seat of the L1011-100, sadly only for a couple of years as it was replaced by the A330. I still see the L1011 as the highlight of my career, just wonderful to handle.
Gorgeous plane!
Especially 'back in the olden days' radars were iffy and detecting convective activity at that level is pretty difficult - more of an art, guessing and good luck. Thankfully, the technology has advanced somewhat - but clear air turbulence is still extremely hard to predict and detect. Thanks for posting.
The L-1011 was such a beast. My favorite plane of all time. The inside was massive. I think 3-5-3 seating if I'm not mistaken. Maybe even wider. I did my first Flight Attendant on an L-1011. German lady. What a time. Memories.
Interesting Comment
My stepmother worked for Delta back in the 70's- early 90's. I too, flew a good bit as a child/teenager and young adult. After college, I got on with American Airlines. I worked as a flight attendant. AA didn't have 747's or L-1011's, but I few on both of those aircrafts several times apiece. Beautiful airplanes, and good memories! ❤
What a fantastic aircraft! I loved flying on the L-1011.
I flew on so many L1011 Patriot Express flights during my military days. I just love how the Whisper Liner sounded at takeoff 🛫
Nice to know some history of the Stargazer!
When i was 7 years old, my dad And I flew on an LTU airlines L-10-11. I remember how Quiet the planes was. We flew from SFO-DUS. I remember service being great, even in economy class.
I worked at Lockheed in the 70s when the L1011 was being built. Fantastic ahead of its time aircraft. I flew on it several times. I am so happy that one is still flying 😊😊😊
That aircraft is a total champ! 😅
Beautiful bird, that aircraft gave me the biggest rush on takeoff back in the 80s, the acceleration was incredible. I’d love to see that livery again, now you can’t tell if it’s Air Canada or Delta
The interesting fact about it being the last L-1011 still in operation was much appreciated. The night that Air Canada became Scare Canada.
I've been in a similar situation before. We were divert pretty far south to avoid a line of storms entering the Chicago area, so We went almost as far south as Indianapolis, and then in Illinois, we turned north to Chicago to avoid the storms. Everything was fine other than some moderate turbulence. All of a sudden the plane dropped a little, then about a minute or two latter the plane drooped a lot. It easily dropped a couple thousand of feet, but everyone was seated with their seat belts on, including the crew. We landed at ORD safely and just some light chop passing the back end of the storms. I will never forget the feeling of the plane "falling" during the flight. I was never scared, but I'm sure others were.
When I lived north of Toronto International I loved seeing the L-1011in that livery gliding in on final approach.
Gorgeous Video! Continue your fantastic journey, Allec!
Insane that only 1 of these jets is still in service (Which is actually the one involved in this incident). I would think such a technologically advanced jet would still be around in at least limited numbers today, but even the 727 has more models flying…
L-1011 fanboy here ✋️
The Tri-Star was a great plane. Excellent performance and very advanced for it's time. Wasn't it one of the first to have an automated landing system?
Good taste
The L-1011 has been known to be one of the safest airplanes ever built. I wonder how long they plan on using the "Stargazer" L-1011. Hopefully a long time, because this, nowadays would be an "eye-catching airplane wherever it can be seen. The L-1011 certainly was one fine airplane to say the least.
I was 11 years old living in Wilmington NC at the time..never knew about this incident..thanks!
My favorite early wide body jet. Never knew the stargazers back story (or even of its prior owner)
Amen 🙏. My favorite Airplanes DC-10, L10-11, 747, 707, DC-8. Experience in all models. Born a raises in New York 🗽. Born in 1958. Since I was 4 Mom, Sister and myself. New York to Puerto Rico. Amen 🙏.
That's my plane! Woo Hoo!
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Loved L-10-11s.
The L 1011 was built like a tank. Aircraft was way beyond the technology of Other aircraft Lockheed built A winner
Thanks God, they landed safe❤
I flew on a Tristar once (St Louis to Boston) It was a pleasant flight and my first one on a jumbo jet.
Same here, just once in the mid-80s. Beautiful plane.
Flew on Delta's L-1011's twice (and it was my first time in a jumbo). Both flights were unforgettable. Sad that it was taken out of commercial passenger service.
My all-time favorite airliner. Flown on a TWA Tri-Star from PHL - LAX as a kid.
I got to fly on an L-1011 Tristar to Hawaii. I've always liked the Tristar.
I always enjoyed my flights in an L-1011
Absolutely, all the time , whenever there’s a problem with the TRI STAR , the cause is the pilot and his crews, the maintenance, ATC , but never ever the manufacturer.
I had never heard of this incident before. Interesting story. As for me, I first flew on an L-1011 in 1974, TWA SFO-JFK. And then quite a few times between New York and Florida on Delta.
Know I am in the minority but I have always thought the L-1011 looks like a deformed DC-10 with an unimpressive cockpit. Excellent video as always!
Thnx! Great video
They should have diverted to the nearest Airport immediately with the injuries mentioned.
Wow, I didn't know any of these jets were around, let alone in service.
I'm confused regarding the flight time. They contact JAX @ 7:15 pm, and they land @ YYZ at 8:50 pm. I thought that would be at least a 2.5 hour flight? Tail winds? Closer to ILM, perhaps? Glad they landed safely back in '83. Great channel and videos, btw. ~Laura
Yeah that thing that pilots need to remember is that thunderstorms form from columns of warm and cold air. There are "inrushing" jets of air and also, in some places around the storm, exiting jets of air. Both of those can cause turbulence to an aircraft.
Pretty sure a pilot is aware of this
@ it seems this one wasn’t. Or at least so it seems. lol
@@EphemeralProductions haha good point
It must have been very frightening for all on board.
Superb video... Please will you make a video for Air New Zealand Flight 901 ... When a McDonnell Douglas DC-10 crashed at the site of Mount Erebus on the 28th of November 1979.
Flight 901 was designed and marketed as a unique sightseeing experience in Antarctica ..Sadly the DC-10 aircraft Registration ZK-NZP crashed at the site with the loss of 257 passengers and crew.
Thank you for this video and indeed this channel.
Good lookin bird...
decades ago, it was believed 3-engine aircraft were cursed. i got in a ticket counter line, with 3 other sailors in chicago, and all 3 of them rescheduled when it was learned the aircraft was an L-1011. creepy--so i did too. it crashed. i know it sounds stupid, but it put the fear of god into me.
holy s**t
i sure flew in a lot of 727s without knowing that
So let me get this right. The event happened near Wilmington, NC, and four people were deemed to have been severely injured. Yet it was decided, yeah, let's keep going on to Toronto. What am I missing?
Maybe because they didn't want a plane full of people sitting on a tarmac at a facility that didn't have services for them? I've seen a plane load of people on a diverted international flight have to sit on a plane for 12 hours because the airport had no customs. Just speculating though.
@@johnpollard4158 Even in 1983, Dulles in DC, Philly Int'l, and JFK in NYC all had customs. And all significantly closer than Toronto. Chances are that the people weren't really severely injured.
@@BigfistJP they did say the two doctors made the decision. Maybe attorneys decided they were seriously injured. 😀
Even in the 1980s, American health care was extraordinarily expensive.
@@Eternal_Tech Huh? You are suggesting, it seems, that the plane went on to Toronto because getting treated in American was too expensive? You are saying that the captain thought, "well, we have to get these severely injured people we have on board to Canada, because stopping in DC will be too expensive for them. I don't care if they die in the meantime." Seriously????
Wow, didn't notice that the Stargazer was in Canada and flew into turbulence.
You should do the one about that a300 that landed without hydraulics
I miss the L-1011.
Look, Michael J Fox is a national treasure to us Canadians but I don't think he should have been flying that plane!
It was Robert J. Fox who was the pilot, not Michael J. Fox, aka Alex P. Keaton, or aka Marty McFly.
@@johnoconnor6356 He's just making a Parkinson's joke, bud.
THIS IS WHY ALL PASSENGERS SHOULD WEAR SEATBELTS FOR THE ENTIRE FLIGHT !!
So why did it plunge again?
When a supercell creates a huge updraft, there's usually an adjacent down flow as well, which the plane apparently flew into. Near the ground these are called microbursts.
Weather radar back then was akin to a red tipped cane.
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If there was a cache of 20th century passenger jets, and I really had to steal one for, uh, reasons, give me the L-1011.
PLUNGE = rapid descent.
😊👍🙏
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Recreation is disappointing as to the livery. AC never had red paint on the rear underbelly of its aircraft.
Wear your seatbelt
I've subscribed but just a suggestion: your logo is too wide, too bright, too visible in the top left corner.
You should put it in the bottom, use not a white but something like a dark gray, and to put it smaller.
Your logo catch the eye and is a nuisance to be fully in the story.
The “ Tri Star “ , indeed was a “ Corruption Star “
I have a new, #1 reason...why I won't fly.
That happened in 1983, right ? A lot of lessons have been learnt since.
The L-1011 wasn’t known for its safety
From day one, the “ Tri Star “ was defective in design and construction.
Great conclusion, but what's the basis?
Details.....or your full of BS.
1st
I was busy watching the latest upload on the flight channel!