The Beatles Indian 78s - Their Story & Their Sound
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- This video features not one but TWO of these incredibly rare Beatles 78s. In it, we tell why and when they were issued and how they sound.
0:00 - Intro & titles.
1:49 - The history of EMI in India.
2:33 - EMI relocates to Dum Dum.
3:23 - EMI ends 78 production in the UK.
3:51 - Other countries which produced Beatles 78's.
4:07 - The 1st Indian Beatles 78 - 'Love Me Do'.
5:44 - Other Beatles tracks issued on Indian 78s.
6:28 - Indian Beatles LPs.
6:58 - The search for Indian Beatles 78s.
7:23 - Condition.
8:01 - Equipment to play 78s on a modern deck - 1) Stylus...
8:59 - 2) 'Y' cables for true mono reproduction.
9:52 - Pulley kit for Project turntables.
10:32 - Sound quality analysis.
12:30 - Have you heard any other discs in this series?
12:55 - Beatles for sale
13:05 - Outro.
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78s are a pain in the ass, heavy, fragile and more often than not reduced to dog shit after being played on grandma’s Victrola 1000 times; but if you’re lucky enough to get some that are reasonably intact and using a PROPER 78 stylus, they are a joy. I’ve got Elvis, Platters, Chuck Berry and Buddy Hollys that JUMP!! The dynamic range and sheer guts of the cuttings put every other format to shame. They’re a rare treat these days, but getting out the 78s are such fun.
What made most 78s so heavy and fragile is that they were made with shellac. The discs in this video, however, appear to be vinyl, just like regular L.P.s.
For hobbyists, the PITA characteristic is often ignored for other reasons. I own a 1906 Edison cylinder phonograph, a 1913 Victor Victrola IX and a 1927 Victor Victrola 4-40 (orthaphonic). The thin sounding music on the earlier phonograph is tolerable because I enjoy the content and respect the time and technology when it was recorded. The 1926 player sounds fantastic, much closer to modern sounds. Yeah, the fragile records are a disappointment but their history and technology of manufacture is interesting. I am okay with the things you mentioned as PITA. To each their own I suppose.
@@JamesDavidWalley yeah if you play a 78 with the same needle over and over again then of course it’ll break🙄
Greetings from Pune, India. Having been a Beatles fan since 1964 when, as a nine-year old, I saw them on the Ed Sullivan Show, I was fascinated by this video. I’m sure you’re right about not finding copies in the markets, but I’ll start checking with friends, several of whom are a few years older than me, and see what they might have!
Greetings John and thanks for watching the video. I'd love to hear about what 78s your friends have or have seen. All the best from Austria, Andrew.
Did you find anything?
It would be interesting to force someone from EMI or YT to explain EXACTLY what damage would result to the Beatles catalog if someone were to broadcast the sound of an Indian 78. Are they planning to include them in a future (money-grubbing) anthology or perhaps re-release them?
You mean Apple/UMG/Calderstone Productions
Aye, EMI-which perhaps might play ball-is dead.
I can imagine them making their visit to the Maharishi and cranking up the Victrola to listen to their latest recording on 78.
My old record shop used to have one of these Indian Beatle 78's in a display case.
I regularly asked the owner to sell it to me. I'm a big Beatles fan and a 78rpm collector, so it'd be like hitting two birds with one stone, right?
One day he went ahead and sold it!
To someone else.
Haha!
Hehe.
Meh...
This is definitely the holy grail among Beatles records..!!!
I've come across a few of them...the asking price was upwards of USD 400 couple of years ago.
Indian 78s of Elvis Presley & Rolling Stones command a huge price too.
And the holy grail of holy grails of Beatles 78s is surely that Quarrymen demo that Paul McCartney has in his collection...
I would count $400 a very good bargain unless it was absolutely trashed. I've rarely seen them sell for less than $1000 and common asking prices (which invariably remain unsold for years) are $2000+
I would really like to listen to a needledrop of these editions.
Didn't expect to see you here
You can normally get away with about 10 seconds of copyrighted music on youtube under the fair use policy. Could have been employed on this video briefly.
Only Indian Beatles record i own is "Let it be,"with red apple label. 78's are made in former Yugoslavia,but i don' t remember any Beatles record on it. And going to India some day,well we' ll see.
Never knew that 78's continued after 1960. I suppose there must be a huge catalogue from the 60's.
Yes, they continued to be pressed in several countries - usually where the population couldn't afford the modern technology to play 45s on. South Africa issued 78s well into the early 60's.
I have "Hey Jude" on a 45 single,On the other side, it's the song "Revolution".
The record label is "Apple", made by EMI India.
Please post a picture or a video of it or something!
Having spent 5 years living in a large Indian city, and many many hours in markets and dark alleys hunting I only ever found an Indian 45 of Help / I'm down with a 45 R prefix on it, never any 78s. Alas, I don't own this anymore. Thanks for a great vid.
Thanks for watching, Carl. Great to hear from somebody who went on the hunt for them.
I recently saw a copy of one of those Beatles Indian 78 rpm discs sell on Ebay for around £ 1,800 . Absolutely ludicrous and " Beatlemania " record collecting prices gone insane yet again . WHY ?
You suggested the possibility that a tape copy of the original "Love Me Do" recording might still exist in India. Since the Canadian 45 of "Love Me Do" was mastered from a UK 45, might it be more likely that this is how the India 78 was mastered? Still, it would be exciting if such a tape were to be discovered.
It should be noted that there is still a huge demand for 78s in India. As recently as 5 years ago, a pressing plant in the suburban Chicago area was shut down for producing pirate 78s that were being shipped to India on a regular basis. Almost all were of a lot of huge acts from the 60s such as Beatles and Stones etc. And this wasn't some small operation that just happened to have a couple of 78 presses. This was a big factory that had a few tractor trailer trucks full of presses hauled off by the FBI when they got shut down. Knowing this, it makes me wonder how many years this plant pumped out these counterfeits and if there's any proven way to tell the originals from these
@@michaelcorrice6463 I just fell out of my chair. Never knew about this. Thanx for sharing the info.
I saw a copy of Hey Jude/ Come Together on discogs. Wild that they were still making 78s that late
Its existence has never been confirmed.
@@Parlogram Oh really? That’s disappointing
I have love me do with ps i love you 78. I bought it about 7 years ago .It took me 15 years to find. Im so glad you made this video. Really your videos are truly amazing. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
I been A Beatles Fan since I was a Kid.... After almost 60 years...Thay are still the best....in 2022
9:45 Just pointing out, its generally recommended to place the splitters after the phono preamp in the signal chain to avoid any potential cable capacitance issues with more sensitive cartridges. Ortofon 2M cartridges are generally okay if I'm not mistaken, but the current line of Audio Technica VM cartridges are quite sensitive to higher capacitance cables and it makes more of a difference than you'd initially think
Great content as always, though!
Very interesting video Andrew. It’s alway great to see the Beatles releases around the world as it just promotes the fact that they had worldwide impact and not just UK and US. It is interesting to see the Beatles releases in 78 shellac discs. According to Mark Lewisohn’s book, the Beatles first Parlophone contract stated they would be recording 78 rpm discs even though the format was being phased out (the contract language was a little out of date). I believe Albert Goldman also stated in his Lennon book that Love Me Do was the first 78 to be issued 😳. Thanks again for posting!
Thanks for watching, Bill and for the interesting info.
You missed a 5th - Israel had a few Beatles 78 records too. someone from Israel was auctioning off a couple Beatles 78's on Ebay a few years back.
They also had The Sundown Playboy's on Apple issued only in Israel on 78 RPM. Both sides were sung in the Cajun Language.
Since the subcontinent is the largest producer of shellac, it makes sense there would be a desire to prolong shellac disks.
Id like to see a advent of a modern day super audio 78 I believe there was a 2011 stereo 78 pressing of the Beach Boys Good Vibrations.
@QuadRaSphere Records and Radio That’s what eBay is for. That’s how I got mine 😀
@QuadRaSphere Records and Radio I guess I have been fortunate since I have never had an issue with eBay. I bought a lot of items through eBay, many records, and FIVE pinball machines. Not once have I gotten screwed over.
WWow, wonderful condition. I would be amazed if Hey Jude was the full version, even the 12 inch 78s had a time limit of around 6 minutes max. I have some Pye Nixa discs from late 1958 -60 they were pressed on a hard vinyl like "unbreakable" substance , and sound amazing. Someone below mentioned Stero 78s and I believe there are a few modern 12 inch singles that had a 78 side like Link Wrays Endless Sleep and the very rare HMV shop reopening disc at 78 of Robbie Williams Millenium backed with a classical track by Elgar.
Wow thank you so much AndrewFor presenting a wonderful history of people 78 which I never knew even existed.
Someday I would like to you on a couple of beetle 78 because I have a 1926 with a controller I got that as an early Christmas gift back in 2019.
The great thing about the Victrola is that you don’t have to have power to listen to music.
I love all require a technology especially wax cylinder 78 3345 and CDs. New pair The only rock ‘n’ roll record I have is 47 eights go is Elvis Presley‘s too much and I love the fact that you mentioned all other countries that had 78 including the Beatles.
Beatles 78s!!! I had no idea there was such a thing. Thank You. Love your videos.
Thanks again for watching!
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A "Hey Jude" 78 would be mindblowing.
It would be interesting how a 7 minute song would fit on a 10 inch 78. Perhaps it was faded out after 3 minutes or so
With a lot of these Beatles 78s even YT would do well to identify the songs. It's great to know that there are still some around in good condition. A lot of fifties rock 'n' roll singles sound great on 78 - they have a real kick. It's not a suitable format for long songs though. Do we know what they did to Hey Jude to make it fit? Issue it as an album?
Same with jazz and classical: the old 78s had amazing amounts of musical information which the old gramophones couldn't reproduce. Oddly, they sound better on CD reissues, which can capture all the information.
I made a large 78 (1300+) purchase from somebody that worked in music way back when. I found a couple gems, TONS of promos a few test pressings and audiodiscs. One audiodisc came from a chicago AM radio station and it has the 1965 Chicago Beatles Interview when on their American tour! I took a chance and it paid off.
Very cool “deep cut” sort of program. I’m learning a lot about formats, mixes, masters, and much more via my favorite band. What I would like see on a program specific to 78s is a little clarity on the different types of 78s that were made: the old shellac disks, and the more modern vinyl disks, and a note on the kinds of styluses one should use for each. Many people don’t know the difference, and will destroy their records by using the wrong ones. Cheers
G'day Andrew...your hard work in putting together these vids is so very much appreciated. This Indian 78 vid was fascinating. Cheers
Cheers, Steve. It's good to know they are appreciated.
Those two 78s are real beauties! FYI, an LP stylus usually won’t ruin a 78... but it may ruin the stylus, as it will run at the bottom of the groove where all gunk collects. It also won’t track against the groove walls , where the sound is cut. The result will be a really thin, scratchy sound. A 78 stylus can ruin an LP, however, as they are too wide for the groove... causing them to either cut out the groove or skip across the record. Don’t ask how I know this. 🙂
You've came up trumps with this one Andrew. You have examined a niche Beatles release and placed it's history in context within The Beatles canon . Again, another release thoroughly researched and authoritatively presented. What I really appreciate about your videos is the fact that, at the time the vid drops, the item(s) are for sale on your website and you don't trumpet the fact. The clear love you have for the band shine through in every presentation. A joy to watch! Thanks for sharing your hard work with us all! BTW, the rear cover of that Revolver looks so good.
Thank you, Indigo - I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Your comments are much appreciated.
A needledrop would be great! But again such great information! Thank you!! Brilliant!
Thanks for the info on the mono stylus (of which I use) for special mono recordings as well. Can’t wait to hear more!!
Many if not all 50's rock 'n roll collectors would agree that the later 78s pressed from 1958 are far better sounding when compared to its equivalent 45 single, I do agree that this is so if played on good equipment, sound quality will be somewhat lost or depressed when played at a lower speed. British & South African 78s were very high quality with very low or zero surface noise with a sonic like soundpower no 45 can match. The 78 took many years to develop to perfection by 1958 this was achieved.
Those library labels Conroy, K.P, Boosey & Hawkes etc insisted their single issues remained at 78rpm throughout the 1960's due to this very reason, the 45s lacked depth & sounded compressed thus was unsuitable for their orchestral recordings at the time.
Hugh Jones commented elsewhere:
That's because the 78s had no EQ processing. The 45s and 33 1/3 rpm records had significant high frequency loss because of their lower speed. So the record industry finally decided on the NAB equalization curve that was looked like a 45 degree curve on a frequency response graph where the lows were attenuated and the highs were heavily boosted in re-recording the master. Then the graph was turned around to get a seemingly hi-fi sound. Trouble was, gone was the fantastic low end. You had to boost the lows on your own equalizer, but you would never recover them. Not only that, any time you jack around the EQ, you produce distorted waveform. I had a bunch of London Decca 78s of Mantovani. Fantastic sound. Then when I played the LP, the bass was lost and the highs were screeeeeetchy. CDs equally suck. Many of them sound like a record played with a worn needle. CDs will never reproduce strings because it is such a complex waveform. But nobody gives a shit anyway.
So when EMI run out of ideas next, think about issuing shellac 78s again starting from where they left off in 1959 and continue to release all great titles including The Beatles.
A society which is where the customer has pre-paid for particular wanted (Society members will vote on titles wanted, limited to 1000 copies) titles for worldwide mail order only at a premium price, if issued on very high quality shellac ( vinyl would not wash) a good business could be realized. Also these new shellac 78s records will play perfectly in jukeboxes with heavy arms. Who agrees ? By the way those two Indian 78s are impressive, imagine them all available again including Hello, Goodbye, Lady Madonna etc
YT's copyright restrictions are beyond stupid. How would anybody not see using music examples spurs interest in the artist? Nothing more or less!
The same idiots in the UK (musicians, actually) in the 30s or so who thought records would replace live performers, and so lobbied to force the BBC to limit the amount of records played vs. live performances in the studio. Hence, the BBC sessions recordings, where artists would perform their records. That way the Beatles or Led Zeppelin wouldn't be forced to "lose money from performances" due to their record sales. Ironically, the Beatles made so much money from records they stopped touring altogether (I know, they had real reasons too!) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needle_time
You Tube are prudes and linked with Amazon.
In this instance it would clearly fall under the legal definition of fair use
@@danieldaniels7571 Exactly! The phrase "for the limited purposes of testing and review" comes to mind.
Another interesting video Andrew, enjoyed it very much thanks
Thank you, Jon.
One of these days I would like to own one of these. Also an Elvis 78 on Sun. I have a Bill Haley early rock 78 among others already. They are so cool because they are like a transition point between eras.
Have heard Elvis and Buddy on 78.
Great video. I love your content so much, keep up the great work!!
Thank you, Kal. Will do!
Outstanding video!!! I loved your review; absolutely fascinating.
Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but at 11:42, I think you meant under 100 Hz, not 100 kHz.
The error took away NOTHING from this excellent video. Thank you for sharing these rarities!
Thanks for watching, Gene!
..either way many thanks for posting these very interesting and well presented videos!
Many thanks!
I saw a Beatles 78 play on RUclips awhile back. I forgot the song. Eight days a week maybe. So cool. I have a few 50's rock songs on 78's. Frankie Lymon, Carl Perkins, Gene Vincent.
I always found these 78s interesting :)
I read on some forum, that they were cut at Abbey Road (at least some of them) and only fathers/mothers were sent to India.
Also my personal experience with "Dum Dums" is they are sometimes hit & miss. I owned Sgt. Pepper from Dum Dum, which was pressed from stampers made from UK fathers/mothers and sounded excellent, but I pretty much dislike all records, which were cut directly at Dum Dum from masters.
Great at last some info on these extremely valuable rarities.
Glad you enjoyed it, Gary.
@@Parlogram Just to tell you, I have what looks like an original Please Please Me album, it is not in good condition but it is a Philippine pressed copy, and I have a Starting Over Polish picture postcard disc. I don't think that these are worth that much, just interesting curios. Any interest?
@@djgaryowens They're just curios really, not worth much.
I do not have any Beatles 78 RPM records, but I do collect 78 RPM rock and roll records. I will have to say that IF THEY ARE PLAYED CORRECTLY, using a wide groove stylus...they sound amazing. I have an old Grundig console from about the late 1940's that has a crystal cartridge that I had rebuilt ($$$) with a 78 RPM stylus, and this thing will shake the house! I rebuilt the electronics and I absolutely love the unit. Don't expect to hear any decent audio on any of the cheaply available Crosley units. They are just plain junk! Nice video, new SUB!
Many thanks Jon and welcome aboard!
I have the Ortofon 2M Mono, which is a true mono cart. That’s what I use for my 78’s.
I’m still not a Beatles fan but I love watching your videos!!! 🥰
I'd like to hear them and the sound of the needle, I have a mint Rock Around the Clock 78 I'd love to be able to play it. Great vid.
Further to my comment left on your "Love me do" video re the publishing date of the India press single, it's cleared that even the 78 of "Love me do" also stated "1964" is the publishing date, very interesting and intrigue to know the story behind this.
A great job well done and finely curated. Thanks very much. Through my own studies, I've found that Capitol in Canada kept 78s in production until sometime in 1958, after the US had stopped.
Thank you, Mark. There were I believe some 78s were released in the U.S. in 1960. I'd like to know more about those Canadian ones too.
Wow. This is incredible. Never heard about 78's Beatle records. Those look like they were made in the twenties (1920's). The info got a little technical for me. Great information on this video. Very informative. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, Joe. Thanks for watching.
The 78 has a certain mystique. It is my preferred format. A format which refuses to go down quietly. '60s issues of Harlem boogaloo, '70s doo wop repros and now Rivermont specialty stereo microgroove pressings.....
I have a couple of the Rivermont pressings, one from 2019! Great sounding records!
I’ve known the Rivermont founder for many years, and have tuned his piano.
I bought the Rivermont 78’s. They sound fantastic!
I have never come across any Beatles 78rpm in my whole life, Andrew. See you, Nelio.
I never had heard of Beatles records being produced as a 75 R'sPM
I wonder what the end date of 78 production was in South Africa?I've picked up 78 records going to as late as about 1961. I'm guessing for similar reasons as in India. I've found a lot of 45 Beatles pressed in SA as well as from the UK. There were obviously a few places of production in SA and a lot of imports as well. I wonder if the earliest Beatles songs were also released on 78 here in South Africa.
Dum Dum is a legend.
Amazing on the 78 r.p.m. singles. Thanks.
Thanks for watching, Hew.
What would truly be wonderful, would be if Parlophone EMI could track down the original masters, and make modern, vinyl pressings of these records; maybe
issue a box set.
If the stampers/metal parts are gone, it isnot beyond the realm of possibility that new masters could be made from the best mono mixes - or even stereo mixes! - and new issues made.
If nothing else, they'd make a great RSD issue.
(Rivermount Records is an example of a modern label that presses and releases new recordings at 78 rpm; they are microgroove, stereo records. In 1978, Warner Bros. released a promotional record for Leon Redbone's new LP, in steteo, on high quality vinyl.)
Great video. First of all thank you for all the great informative videos you have made. For me this is an important subject. Never have I heard a more in depth review of these records. I would like to ask you if it's possible to do the same for Greek and Pakistani multi-color 45's. Actually there's several overseas records that hold great interest. Cheers!
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video with wonderful graphics. I first became aware of Indian Beatles 78s in the mid-80s. Wasn't George Harrison's The Inner Light recorded at EMI India?
Yes, George recorded the music to 'The Inner Light' at EMI's studios in Bombay.
Neat! Never knew this.
And I've been collecting 78 For nar 40 years.
Ohhhh and I've got some good ones.
1:15 You could theoretically upload the needledrops to a file sharing service.
Say it after me ... Please PLEASE Me ... Please PLEASE Me ... Please PLEASE Me ... not: Please Please ME. :)
Other than that personal pet peeve of mine, great job as usual! I never knew anything about the Indian records. I always look for Beatles records when I visit Argentina, but little luck, just a very rough copy of With the Beatles (“Con los Beatles”), so far. :)
Thank you for sharing, as always!
I have a similar turntable, I am very happy with it
My buddy in North New Jersey,from whom I bought40 crates of original Beatle lps,from all countries,actually had two of the Indians and one of the Phillipinos back around the early 2000's!They got sold before I bought his 40 bin lp and 20 box 45 collection(also various countries,and originals,as well as Ep's) back in 2015.Everything I bought,I was forced to subsequently sell.Im starting over on my Beatle runs,but I wish I had all that,along with all my non-Beatle part of my collection.
Dum Dum is the name of Calcutta's international airport. Thanks for putting the dots together about its' name.
wow It’s going crazy to have it
0:14 whoever she is… shes absolutely flawless!!!
Great video as always, but I see some very desirable box sets in the background that are being shown laying down on their side!
3:11 Wait... the stylus is supposed to point *away* from the spinning direction?
You know, I wish you'd do a series of videos like all your Beatles ones on Queen....
That was interesting.
You know I did find this video to be just fascinating !!! Lot of great info here but I don't think I will run across one any time soon lol !!!! But in the solo ones I do have a Album by Paul from India and a John one as well . Thanks for the video and cheers !!!
Hi Beatle Brad 😀! I didn’t know that you followed this channel. They have some great stuff. Those 78s have have your name written all over them 😁. They may not be colored vinyl, but wow, wouldn’t they be great to have! See you in your next video. Best regards, Brian.
Glad you enjoyed it, Brad. The whole India thing needs more investigation, including the solo albums. How do your copies sound? Cheers, Andrew.
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Hi Brian :) you cot me lol !!!! I do like this channel and a lot of great info too . I sure would love to have on of the Beatles 78's . But every time I look for one or find one they are in not that good of shape + thay are over a 1.000 $$ lol yes . O well some day you just might see me showing one :) !!! Take care my friend !!!!!
You know they are not bad ... You know I did Expect the worst but you know they are not to bad . But as you know hard to find and rare !!!! . Take care and all the best to you mate :) !!!!
Hi and thanks for the great info on the Beatles 78s they are also on piano rolls, the reason that they got on 78s in India is that india Poor did not get electricity till the 60's so I heard and they only had wind up gramma phones.
Help backed with I'm Down was also issued on 78 RPM too.
I will admit, i did not watch the video from start to finish, so if I am repeating something already pointed out, sorry.
The thing with 78s, is that they were the highest fidelity you could get in the consumer market, on vinyl.
Regular 45s would themselves, give you more fidelity than the 33.3, because they could put more data on them because they used more space, and put out the data at a higher speed, relatively, which allows for a higher bandwidth of the signal.
78s were even better.
You have to think about it the same way digital recording works.
A song recorded at 8 bits, 16 hz, does not contain as much data as the same song recorded at 24 bits, 192hz.
Or you could think of it like a digital picture.
You could take an identical picture of something with 2 megapixels, and 40 megapixels.
What you would see is the same picture, but the detail is going to be better on the 40 mp, because it uses more space to contain more data, thus higher resolution.
@@daveidmarx8296 Not QUITE true because there were a few 78s pressed in vinyl towards the end of their production.
@@daveidmarx8296 Never mind. Maybe that Europe was one step ahead for a change. As I said, there were some vinyl 78s alonside the shellac ones, but these were to be played with a light pick-up only.
@@daveidmarx8296 Thanks for your interesting reply. You mention My Girl's Pussy. Is that the version by Harry Roy and the Bat Club Orchestra from the 1930s? It is one of my favourite novelty songs!
@@daveidmarx8296 Not those 78s made from 1961 onwards to 1969 made in England, some 750 to 1000 titles were all on vinyl.
Very good
Thanks, Anthony.
In Argentina both shellac 78 rpm and vynil 45 rpm were manufactured at the same time in the early 1960s. The 78s were discontinued circa 1965 and they were a very minor production, that's why it's hard to find.
Have seen 78s on the internet from South American countries as late as 1970. No rock & roll, all local artists.
I would like to have 78rpm of These guys.....it would be cool 😎 to here... thank for the videos... about The Beatles....I recently got Meet The Beatles on LP..made in the 1960s...it is a Mono Copy..made in Los Angeles California...mine has the number 6 on it
Another fantastic video Andrew! I'm liking this idea of checking out pressings from foreign countries. Maybe an episode on Russian pressings might be interesting as I know a few people have them and speak well about them.
Take care and stay safe.
Mark Anthony K
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Thanks, Mark. I definitely plan to check out more foreign pressings in future videos.
Russian or iron curtain pressings would be fascinating. I have older EPs on the Melodiya label and a nice stack of strange pirated double LPs I got in St Petersburg soon after the fall of the USSR.
I've heard a couple of these Indian 78s myself in person, She Loves You, and A Hard Day's Night. They sound stunning. These were new old stock copies. I have been looking on ebay for years for one of these 78s. The ones I see are always in lower condition. I am not going to pay $4000 or more for a 78 in VG or G condition. People also will print new copies of the 78 labels, and glue them into junk 78s from India, to scam unsuspecting ebay buyers. I have always been curious what other groups were pressed on 78 in India this late. Popsike, for example, does list an Indian 78 of Little Honda by The Beach Boys, but no others by them. Cliff Richard was obviously popular in India, given how many of these Indian 78s show up on ebay. I have a couple Indian Shadows 78s, from 1965-66. EMI Dum Dum also pressed RCA records. I am aware of Elvis Presley 78s from India as late as 1966. I see you have a Garrard 401. I want to buy one of these, too. A great deck for 78s.I have a Thorens, I use the same tone arm for 78s as I do for LPs but just switch the headshell for the correct stylus. I have two US vintage valve amps, a Fisher and a Scott I lucked out on cheap. These have 78 or mono settings.
I know that the folks at RUclips will take down the sound samples. but is it possible to share a 10 second audio link in the comments? Would be hard to put copyright if it is a sample of the recording, during the middle parts of the song.
i saw one of the argentinian 78. It had Twist And Shout on side A and I Saw Her Standing There on side B. i have the cover for the 33 version, but not the vinyl, but knowing this i'll try to find the 78 again to buy it
Good luck. I've never seen a copy of the Argentina 78 offered for sale, and I've been looking for 10+ years.
The 78's usually always have run high on the collectors' market.Usually $800 on up,depending on condition.
I only ever met one person who had a Beatles 78, and he swapped it for a washing machine
Under educational fair use there should be no reason why you can't play the music you educate on plus by keeping it down to 30 second snippets you also avoid copyright issues. Just food for thought but very very true. Just include the correct copyright holders and used under fair use for educational purposes in the description.
Speaking of Dum Dum, I have a mono copy of Revolver from India. I found it for £5.50 and it's in a yellow Parlophone label
How does it sound?
It sounds alright, I used the y-shape mono splitter cable as Andrew has mentioned in the video and it became a better sound
Time for a 78rpm shellac revival?
I think I have left my comments here on this video but I have made my inquiries about these two discs (and the one I have) on your main website - and I was wondering if there are ways to reach you in this regard.
You can contact me via the website: www.parlogramauctions.com/Contact
I actually did a few days ago - I hope to hear from you soon.
Is any paperwork available in the EMI/Universal archives that tells us how many copies of Beatles' titels on the Indian 78's where made? Any vault detective available available on this subject?
Thanks Andrew. I've only heard PPM & Help on Indian 78. As you said, PPM has an odd distant quality. Help sounded just as good as the UK 45. Maybe better, as it sounds like there's a bit less reverb, giving it a slightly more intimate sound
Thanks for your feedback, Bob. 'Help!' would be an interesting one to hear on 78, especially as the UK 45 sounds poor.
Hey Andrew, is there a specific y cable brand you recommend?
No special brand, Chris. Any will do the job nicely.
Try uploading an unlisted video of the recordings of them and leave a link to that video in the description. It will still probably get claimed but they don't usually take them down or mute the audio in unlisted videos. The claim tends to only be a box of text saying what song it is in the description on the unlisted videos. Maybe it's worth a try?
or even a dropbox link to a video of it or something similar? :)
Is that true? But do unlisted videos get blocked still?
@@BeAGoodDoga It depends, they can stop it from being public, but they can't stop it from being Unlisted
@@AlexTechYT yeah I guess so. Because it seems to be common that videos get blocked for using “copyrighted” material. Unlisted videos however, I have no clue if they’re the exception.
youtube is scanning all videos against a database which fingerprints music, etc content. doesn't matter if the video is private or not. posting a link to dropbox or similar probably the best idea for the audio files.
Hi Andrew, of the 78s were aimed at the wind up/horn gramophones, perhaps that’s what you should play them on?
do you have a link to the y cable you use for mono records?
Hi Renzo, I've put Amazon links to both 'Y' cables in the video description under the 'Hi-Fi equipment used in this video' section.
have you thought about uploading audio comparisons on another website without RUclips's janked copyright system?
because I really wanna hear what a Beatles 78 would sound like, if the 78 itself already had sound limitations by virtue of the wider groove
The sound limitations are on the 45s, not the 78s issued from 1958 onwards. 78s from 1958 onwards will sound far superior when compared to it's 45rpm equivalent, in short you will hear some 25% more depth or bass & volume can be increased to fill any large room without slightest distortion. A excellent example to to play Elvis Presley's. A Big Hunk 'O Love on RCA-1136 45 on full volume bass & treble then without altering anything play the same title at 78, you won't believe the improvement.
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The Philippines (Manufactured and released by Dyna Music Entertainment, Inc. (Dyna Products, Inc.))
Dyna Products? Bing Rodrigo's label?
@@andriealinsangao613 Yes. Mico Industries and Dyna Records were the licensees of EMI back then but I believe Dyna got the exclusive license sometime in the mid-60s until 1995 when EMI started to partner up with OctoArts.
@@kyflo The first Philippines Beatles single was pressed by Mico, the rest by Dyna.
A regular supply of electricity is still a big problem in India today, one hundred years on!
The better off have temporary back up power supplies, the majority have to wait til it returns.
Is there a u.s. link to the 2 female 1 male y splitter?
These are good records these 78s
I have the Indian releases of Help & Sgt Pepper. I'll never sell them, coz they were my dad's, but it would be cool to know if they're rare.