Thank you Shawn for your comments. Thank you for everything that you do, to try and insure the preservation of these "truely Magical" early brown wax cylinders. Please note in the video the very early patent 1900 Cylinder Blanc Edison Box. I have not come across another one like it. The paper is extremely fragile and flimsy, and that is probably why I have never seen another. thanks again for your comments. Bruce
Nice Record The brown wax are truely magical, This Cake walk has a nice lively sound. What wonderful records especially to me, as I make brown wax, double spiral blanks from raw materials just like at Edison's Laboratory.. I am glad you are saving these early treasures. I make new blanks so collectors are less inclined to shave off a slightly mold damage original. There were less than 10 million brown wax cylinders made, and probably less than 10% survive we need to treasure the few around..
Something I always wondered about these old phonos. It looks like the entire weight of the horn is on the needle. Is there an adjustment for the pressure on the record? Thanks.
These cylinders are so wonderful. So true, unedited, natural sound...... These ancient machines just recordeed what happened in front of a single brass horn. No digital synthesizers, no commercial charts-vomit, no artifical audio content. Just a window to centuries ago you can still open today. That was a time where content was much more important than the recording quality. Today, the opposite is important to most people. The performers died years ago. :-( It is actually canned music from the past. Sadly, I don't own any of them. BUT PLEASE: Never put the lifted horn down somewhere in the middle while the cylinder is spinning! Those cylinders, especially the brown ones, can be damaged seriously from that! Always place the horn at the "lead in" in the beginning before the music starts. Never "seek" into the middle :-)
I love the song, but I'm worried your record won't last long. The record has mold on it. It's okay now because it hasn't gotten to the grooves yet. The mold is going to eat away at the record and make it unplayable. It doesn't matter if you pick or shave it off, as it has most likely rooted deep down into the record, and will likely grow back. You should immediately isolate the record from the rest of your collection, as there is a chance the mold will spread its spores and infect other records too. I don't want to cut you down, as I am just giving you a warning.
Generally moldy records only continue to grow mold if it is a humid or damp environment. I know from experience. I had a pristine cylinder and left it in the basement for several months. It was only after I opened it to play it that I realized it had gotten a little surface mold. It has been in a dry environment for the past four years and has not grown any more mold. It all has to do with climate.
@@RC-wm7cw For playing purposes low humidity and 65-72 degrees, 80-100F and humid will promote mold growth. It is best to store on the second floor if you live in a rural area with lots of trees and no air condition. Also, the wax amberols, while they don't get moldy, any sudden change, can cause them to crack, never purchase one on a cold day and take it from hot to cold, hot to cold. The wax expands and contracts rapidly with temperature (over a few thousandths of an inch) the molecules of the compound can't take this stress, and it fractures.
Compared to what from that era? This a 114 year old recording on Brown Wax played on the original equipment, please keep that in mind, the mere fact that it has survived and still plays is pretty incredible in its own right. Thanks.
I'm just saying that better results could be had with an electronic transfer after all, the better you can hear it the more magical it is, no? Also if these are cherishable pieces of history why are you wearing them out with a heavy pickup? I already have quite a few good uploads.
Michael Fearnley In my experience, to most serious collectors, it is much more "magical" to hear it played on original Equipment from the era in which it was recorded, not enhanced by fancy 21st century modern day equipment. The saphire stylus is not exactly a "heavy pickup", besides, if I pull this out and play it every 5 years or so, one would not be particularly concerned about destroying it, and I can always go into RUclips and hear it play anyway, albeit appalling, horrible, and what ever negative description you wish to associate with the playback quality.
That may be so but it is a very subjective assertion. If you strive to get the best objective performance from the disc or whatever medium it is on you will end up being closer to the original sound. It depends on whether you want to hear the audio as it was heard on the reproducing equipment of the day or as it was when recorded. I believe the latter is the most satisfactory. I'd rather hear the enhanced correct version than the degraded version TBH.
That is a really clear playing cylinder, is amazing to think that it is over 114 years old. They really make things to last back then.
I love how they have to race to fit the last couple bars in on time!
There is something truly magical about being able to listen through a time-window to the authentic sound of 1901.
I actually cherish the noisy ones - gives them a surreal quality and a sense of antiquity. This is a time machine.
It sounds very good considering how old it is!!! Amazing it sounds as good as this !!!
Yeah let's take a trip back to the 90s! The 1890s, that is. :]
RetroMegabyte toast to that !
Like in Chicago 1892 when the first L train tan above the alley from the Loop. the South Side L.
It still sounds really good, despite how old it is. I'm amazed at that.
The amount of engineering behind this thing is still awe-inspiring, even 125 years later.
That song was still going strong ten years later.
Very good sound for such an old song
I'm reading a horror book that was talking about these & I had to see if I could hear one. Very cool!
A horror book that actually mentions Edison Brown Wax Cylinders ? Can I ask you the title of the Book ? Sounds bizarre.
Thank you Shawn for your comments. Thank you for everything that you do, to try and insure the preservation of these "truely Magical" early brown wax cylinders. Please note in the video the very early patent 1900 Cylinder Blanc Edison Box. I have not come across another one like it. The paper is extremely fragile and flimsy, and that is probably why I have never seen another. thanks again for your comments.
Bruce
Nice Record The brown wax are truely magical, This Cake walk has a nice lively sound. What wonderful records especially to me, as I make brown wax, double spiral blanks from raw materials just like at Edison's Laboratory.. I am glad you are saving these early treasures. I make new blanks so collectors are less inclined to shave off a slightly mold damage original. There were less than 10 million brown wax cylinders made, and probably less than 10% survive we need to treasure the few around..
remember . these performers were playing in front of a very large central horn and they were either playing or singing as loud as they could
XD
Man, thank you so much for putting all of these up. I've been getting in to rag music from this era lately, and you've been so helpful.
Thanks for posting! It's really interesting to see and hear those.
Great ! Thanks for all of the information about this song. Thanks for watching.
Love it! Matching many of my Fireside book of songs. Will research them to play. Thanks so much.
Would you know were to find a cylinder with song on it it's my favourate wax cylinder song eeevvveeerrr
Incredible!
Amazing, Thanks dude!
Haven't seen any posts from you in awhile. Hope all is well.
Something I always wondered about these old phonos. It looks like the entire weight of the horn is on the needle. Is there an adjustment for the pressure on the record? Thanks.
These cylinders are so wonderful. So true, unedited, natural sound...... These ancient machines just recordeed what happened in front of a single brass horn. No digital synthesizers, no commercial charts-vomit, no artifical audio content. Just a window to centuries ago you can still open today.
That was a time where content was much more important than the recording quality. Today, the opposite is important to most people.
The performers died years ago. :-(
It is actually canned music from the past.
Sadly, I don't own any of them.
BUT PLEASE: Never put the lifted horn down somewhere in the middle while the cylinder is spinning! Those cylinders, especially the brown ones, can be damaged seriously from that! Always place the horn at the "lead in" in the beginning before the music starts. Never "seek" into the middle :-)
In the 1890s, in this country, you better know how to make your own bread, and make your own clothes.
Thatt sounds so weird!!!!
I love the song, but I'm worried your record won't last long. The record has mold on it. It's okay now because it hasn't gotten to the grooves yet. The mold is going to eat away at the record and make it unplayable. It doesn't matter if you pick or shave it off, as it has most likely rooted deep down into the record, and will likely grow back. You should immediately isolate the record from the rest of your collection, as there is a chance the mold will spread its spores and infect other records too. I don't want to cut you down, as I am just giving you a warning.
Generally moldy records only continue to grow mold if it is a humid or damp environment. I know from experience. I had a pristine cylinder and left it in the basement for several months. It was only after I opened it to play it that I realized it had gotten a little surface mold. It has been in a dry environment for the past four years and has not grown any more mold. It all has to do with climate.
What temp should a brown wax or gold mold cylinder be stored in? Also this is a reason we need to archive these records on computer.
@@RC-wm7cw For playing purposes low humidity and 65-72 degrees, 80-100F and humid will promote mold growth. It is best to store on the second floor if you live in a rural area with lots of trees and no air condition. Also, the wax amberols, while they don't get moldy, any sudden change, can cause them to crack, never purchase one on a cold day and take it from hot to cold, hot to cold. The wax expands and contracts rapidly with temperature (over a few thousandths of an inch) the molecules of the compound can't take this stress, and it fractures.
Compare this to Gouraud's 1888 recording from London. Gouraud wins, hands down.
1890 is very old but that sounds particularly horrible.
Compared to what from that era? This a 114 year old recording on Brown Wax played on the original equipment, please keep that in mind, the mere fact that it has survived and still plays is pretty incredible in its own right. Thanks.
I have discs from this period that sound much smoother and more forward, the distortion on this is appalling.
I'm just saying that better results could be had with an electronic transfer after all, the better you can hear it the more magical it is, no? Also if these are cherishable pieces of history why are you wearing them out with a heavy pickup? I already have quite a few good uploads.
Michael Fearnley In my experience, to most serious collectors, it is much more "magical" to hear it played on original Equipment from the era in which it was recorded, not enhanced by fancy 21st century modern day equipment. The saphire stylus is not exactly a "heavy pickup", besides, if I pull this out and play it every 5 years or so, one would not be particularly concerned about destroying it, and I can always go into RUclips and hear it play anyway, albeit appalling, horrible, and what ever negative description you wish to associate with the playback quality.
That may be so but it is a very subjective assertion. If you strive to get the best objective performance from the disc or whatever medium it is on you will end up being closer to the original sound. It depends on whether you want to hear the audio as it was heard on the reproducing equipment of the day or as it was when recorded. I believe the latter is the most satisfactory. I'd rather hear the enhanced correct version than the degraded version TBH.