As a falconer and hunter myself, I believe you should have the upmost respect and knowledge of your quarry. It’s not our given right to hunt these animals, pests or not they’re still living creatures, some of which are very intelligent as you’ve mentioned.
I think what you say Dave is very true and most of it could extend to all forms of our sport shooting, fishing and hunting in general. Good on you Dave please keep it up.
Very much enjoying your work! I am looking to apply some of the falconry methods to perch and train my 9-week old peafowl. I like that you bring up the ethics in falconry and animal keeping overall. I too agree that hunting is very much cornerstone in the survival of balanced eco-systems. I also agree that ALL critters have a role and place in the systems, whether we see as humans get what those roles are or not. Too many [especially here in the US] just want to go kill something. Some do very barbaric and evil things like rooster fighting for the fun of it, relishing in the harm that comes to the animals. Some have very cruel hunting methods going into animals dens killing hibernating animals, setting horrific trap that leave the animals in pain and states of fear/stress if they are not instantly killed. To me thats not hunting, thats human mental illness marked by animals abuse. I think we have humans have to understand we are not the only species of animal on the planet and we do not own the others. In terms of falconry ethics, you make made me think of a question that I have come across in my reading. Thats the question of people engaging in the art/science of falconry not to hunt, but to essentially keep a raptor as a "pet". They see the "cool" factor but not the biological factor that the very bird the covet is a HUNTER. I personally LOVE, LOVE raptors and I would very love to have to honor of keeping them. But I am also not a hunter, so Im not out in woods to do that. I do not think its ethical for someone to take a wild hawk, etc out of its habitat of the wide open skies only to then put them into a cage, let out to hang on a perch for a bit. Not sure what it is, but I can FEEL what the bird might feel. Albeit, I do think falconry is a beautiful art when there is a true relationship between the human and animal. To gain the trust of any wild animal to me, is a gift from the universe. Not all of us have the ability to communicate in animal language. It's one so worth learning, they bring a level of soul happy that the human world can not match! THANK YOU!!!!!! The world needs more people like YOU who care!
Thankyou. Some good pints on there . As to the peafowl , one of the most entertaining and interesting birds we’ve ever had here was my sons tame pet golden pheasant : enjoy the peafowl as I’m Sure they’re similar only more so!
I have seen some disgusting stuff on social media, I see it as cruel, no thought for the animal and certainly not for the art of falconry. Alot abroad. Unfortunately youtube has a big share of uncensored rubbish, and some good falconry but with no thought about how it could look to anti everything people. I not sure if youtube cares from what iv seen. Well said 👍
Hi, I think it's about laws, traditions and hunting ethics in that region. I can hunt in the hunting area (1340 ha) where I am a member. But it is also related to the year-round care of game animals. I can only hunt in the hunting season. It is different for each species. I do not go hunting in a foreign hunting area without specific permission from the game owner. The permit is for one visit. It is not about the hunted animal, but about the beauty of the attack on the hunted game. If the hunted animal escapes, it must be allowed to live, because it proved that it is capable of living in nature. I never hunt for a trophy, or for photos, but only for food for a falconer of prey. I kill the caught game so that it does not suffer. A falconer is guided to a game that is large enough. For aquila chrysaetos female (4.5kg) it is Capreolus capreolus (14kg). For goshawk female (1kg) it is Lepus europaeus (4kg). For the goshawk male (0.7kg) it is a male Phasianus colchicus (1.1kg).
Great video Dave. Must admit that I've never heard of using thermal imaging in falconry. Some of my best days in the field never resulted in a kill but watching the bird fly and the quarry escape. A big no no for me is ' car hawking' to add to your list.
I fly my birds because I like to see them fly. I'm not sure they want to fly. If I just fed them, as I do during the moult, I think they'd handle it. I used to catch fish and put them on the table. Better for them than dying in a trawlers hold? We could buy our protein from supermarkets and the animals would still suffer. Yet, as predators, I think we have the right to hunt. One animal has been hunting other animals as long as there's been animals. If I'm pushed, the reason I've never hunted, is that the falconry bird will take only very special prey. The animal that's slower/ sicker/ older than the others. Like any other predator. I think that prey belongs to wild predators. A vindication of leaving the kill below a hedge? An easy meal for a fox or buzzard? At the end of the day, falconry doesn't do any harm as far as I can see.
I hunt crows because the are considered as a pest here... I think they are verry clever birds and even did think about getting one to train (didn't went that way because it wouldn't be smart to have one close to a hunting bird)
@zeeschelp no but some like a nice view, others happy in a quiet place with just the sky to look at; in the wild they spend nearly all their time not flying
@@falconry.davesharpenatureboy thank you!! 🌟 I agree to what you're saying as would most falconers, I believe, but i sometimes get this nagging feeling as if the birds need a lot more... But then again i feel they also won't really care for it. Thanks again !
I have not hunted in the state I live in (other than on my land) and that’s because in this state the farmers and land owners want money to hunt their land. I’ve been told $300 for a season and that isn’t exclusive hunting. It would be unavailable during all deer hunting seasons. This makes me a bit angry. I’m taking squirrels and rabbits for pity sake!
Agreed, if you hunt, then use what you kill. Whether that be for yourself, bird, dog ferret, or whatever. I may be wrong. I've never hunted properly myself. I've been out with people rabbiting with harris hawks and a ferret. I've been out myself with the hawks on a lamp and not caught. However my falcons if they catch something fair enough. But I don't actively hunt. I'm just happy to get out and fly and test them in different ways, make them stoop to a lure dropped from a drone, let them range off for a thermal. I enjoy falconry as much as anything for watching that magnificent majestic bird that I've trained do what I've trained it to. I know some people will say its natural for it to kill. Animals are always bred for a purpose, is that always right? Greyhounds and horses for racing. Falcons for racing and hunting. Is there a rule book that says if I'm not killing something with my falcon lurcher or ferret then I shouldn't have them. Sometimes I think there is more to sport than the blood that can be spilt. Open for discussion 🙂
I have nothing against hunting, I just don't think it's always the necessity. As for your point on the telemetry Dave, I swear by it, and as you say in this day and age it is a necessity
100% agree 👍 if you’re gunna hunt , hunt with honour.
As a falconer and hunter myself, I believe you should have the upmost respect and knowledge of your quarry. It’s not our given right to hunt these animals, pests or not they’re still living creatures, some of which are very intelligent as you’ve mentioned.
I think what you say Dave is very true and most of it could extend to all forms of our sport shooting, fishing and hunting in general. Good on you Dave please keep it up.
I agree any hunting I think should
Be carried out respectfully all round
Couldn't agree more with you about reflushing
Great video again Dave 💯 agree
Brutal Planet 💚
Very much enjoying your work! I am looking to apply some of the falconry methods to perch and train my 9-week old peafowl.
I like that you bring up the ethics in falconry and animal keeping overall. I too agree that hunting is very much cornerstone in the survival of balanced eco-systems. I also agree that ALL critters have a role and place in the systems, whether we see as humans get what those roles are or not. Too many [especially here in the US] just want to go kill something. Some do very barbaric and evil things like rooster fighting for the fun of it, relishing in the harm that comes to the animals. Some have very cruel hunting methods going into animals dens killing hibernating animals, setting horrific trap that leave the animals in pain and states of fear/stress if they are not instantly killed.
To me thats not hunting, thats human mental illness marked by animals abuse.
I think we have humans have to understand we are not the only species of animal on the planet and we do not own the others. In terms of falconry ethics, you make made me think of a question that I have come across in my reading.
Thats the question of people engaging in the art/science of falconry not to hunt, but to essentially keep a raptor as a "pet". They see the "cool" factor but not the biological factor that the very bird the covet is a HUNTER. I personally LOVE, LOVE raptors and I would very love to have to honor of keeping them. But I am also not a hunter, so Im not out in woods to do that. I do not think its ethical for someone to take a wild hawk, etc out of its habitat of the wide open skies only to then put them into a cage, let out to hang on a perch for a bit. Not sure what it is, but I can FEEL what the bird might feel.
Albeit, I do think falconry is a beautiful art when there is a true relationship between the human and animal. To gain the trust of any wild animal to me, is a gift from the universe. Not all of us have the ability to communicate in animal language. It's one so worth learning, they bring a level of soul happy that the human world can not match!
THANK YOU!!!!!! The world needs more people like YOU who care!
Thankyou. Some good pints on there . As to the peafowl , one of the most entertaining and interesting birds we’ve ever had here was my sons tame pet golden pheasant : enjoy the peafowl as I’m
Sure they’re similar only more so!
Great video Dave! 100% agree!
I too agree 👍
I agree, there is no place for hatred in hunting.
I have seen some disgusting stuff on social media, I see it as cruel, no thought for the animal and certainly not for the art of falconry.
Alot abroad.
Unfortunately youtube has a big share of uncensored rubbish, and some good falconry but with no thought about how it could look to anti everything people.
I not sure if youtube cares from what iv seen.
Well said 👍
Same in reptile community the horrible stuff gets views !
Brilliant Dave, fully agree with everything here, if you cant respect your quarry in falconry don’t hunt it
Hi, I think it's about laws, traditions and hunting ethics in that region. I can hunt in the hunting area (1340 ha) where I am a member. But it is also related to the year-round care of game animals. I can only hunt in the hunting season. It is different for each species. I do not go hunting in a foreign hunting area without specific permission from the game owner. The permit is for one visit. It is not about the hunted animal, but about the beauty of the attack on the hunted game. If the hunted animal escapes, it must be allowed to live, because it proved that it is capable of living in nature. I never hunt for a trophy, or for photos, but only for food for a falconer of prey. I kill the caught game so that it does not suffer. A falconer is guided to a game that is large enough. For aquila chrysaetos female (4.5kg) it is Capreolus capreolus (14kg). For goshawk female (1kg) it is Lepus europaeus (4kg). For the goshawk male (0.7kg) it is a male Phasianus colchicus (1.1kg).
Nice words
Great video Dave. Must admit that I've never heard of using thermal imaging in falconry. Some of my best days in the field never resulted in a kill but watching the bird fly and the quarry escape. A big no no for me is ' car hawking' to add to your list.
Same;
Some
Of my best flights werent a success
10000000% agree I am a hunter big hunter but I go out see gd flyet not the kill yes what we hope for but my best flyets I remeber was all misses
I fly my birds because I like to see them fly. I'm not sure they want to fly. If I just fed them, as I do during the moult, I think they'd handle it.
I used to catch fish and put them on the table. Better for them than dying in a trawlers hold?
We could buy our protein from supermarkets and the animals would still suffer.
Yet, as predators, I think we have the right to hunt. One animal has been hunting other animals as long as there's been animals.
If I'm pushed, the reason I've never hunted, is that the falconry bird will take only very special prey. The animal that's slower/ sicker/ older than the others. Like any other predator.
I think that prey belongs to wild predators. A vindication of leaving the kill below a hedge? An easy meal for a fox or buzzard?
At the end of the day, falconry doesn't do any harm as far as I can see.
I hunt crows because the are considered as a pest here... I think they are verry clever birds and even did think about getting one to train (didn't went that way because it wouldn't be smart to have one close to a hunting bird)
hi sir, what is your opinion about bonding with the bird? does the bird only care for meat or does he bond?
He bonds with you as he trusts you as a hunting asset but not for love
@@falconry.davesharpenatureboy if i may ask another question on your thoughts, are they not bored when not being flown?
@zeeschelp no but some like a nice view, others happy in a quiet place with just the sky to look at; in the wild they spend nearly all their time not flying
@@falconry.davesharpenatureboy thank you!! 🌟 I agree to what you're saying as would most falconers, I believe, but i sometimes get this nagging feeling as if the birds need a lot more... But then again i feel they also won't really care for it. Thanks again !
I have not hunted in the state I live in (other than on my land) and that’s because in this state the farmers and land owners want money to hunt their land. I’ve been told $300 for a season and that isn’t exclusive hunting. It would be unavailable during all deer hunting seasons.
This makes me a bit angry. I’m taking squirrels and rabbits for pity sake!
Everyone wants your £££££s these days
Agreed, if you hunt, then use what you kill. Whether that be for yourself, bird, dog ferret, or whatever.
I may be wrong. I've never hunted properly myself. I've been out with people rabbiting with harris hawks and a ferret. I've been out myself with the hawks on a lamp and not caught. However my falcons if they catch something fair enough. But I don't actively hunt. I'm just happy to get out and fly and test them in different ways, make them stoop to a lure dropped from a drone, let them range off for a thermal. I enjoy falconry as much as anything for watching that magnificent majestic bird that I've trained do what I've trained it to. I know some people will say its natural for it to kill.
Animals are always bred for a purpose, is that always right?
Greyhounds and horses for racing. Falcons for racing and hunting. Is there a rule book that says if I'm not killing something with my falcon lurcher or ferret then I shouldn't have them.
Sometimes I think there is more to sport than the blood that can be spilt.
Open for discussion 🙂
I think if the birds well looked after physically and mentally and you’re happy then alls good
I have nothing against hunting, I just don't think it's always the necessity.
As for your point on the telemetry Dave, I swear by it, and as you say in this day and age it is a necessity
I agree with everything your saying
Cheers
"a young, unentered bird"....the word is virgin lol
Gary glitter and old rolf loved them
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