Can we appreciate how out of all the weird things the Dub censors, they didnt censor a man having a heart attack in the middle of a duel. And even had an X-Ray action shot of his heart stopping...You confuse me Dub
Yeah the dub is weird. So very weird. 4kids is odd with Yugioh one minute they take away guns the next they show an honest to god heart attack. Although on that note Yugioh has the invisible guns things right well in Sonic X they show actual guns on screen both hand and military. Yes they make laser sounds but they are still guns actual realistic guns that they don't paint over or anything. Like you said you confuse me Dub. Although let's also appreciate Scotty Ray's perfromance in this episode as Zane. I love him so much in the dub and he has such a badass voice so fitting of Zane. He's the perfect Dub Zane, at least by 4kids actors maybe there's a funimation actor who would've better but regardless props to that man.
@@BranBronzebeard701 Season 4? Crunchy roll, get a free trial, watch it Sub only, not a big fan Still solid but season 3 will always be my fave, Yubels my favourite card and character, its a crime she has 3 cards
My favorite part of this duel was Zane attempting to use his own heart attack as part of his dueling strategy. He planned to attack Yubel with lethal damage, forcing Yubel to leave Jesse's body, then spare Jesse by ending the duel mid attack WITH HIS OWN DEATH. It's only appropriate that he plays a machine deck, because that strategy is metal as fuck.
@@TheKpa11 Attacks have been cancelled by the duellist declaring them being rendered unable to continue the duel before, evenif they'd win from that attack going through.
@@TheKpa11 The only rulebook they're playing by is the rules of an alternate dimension where losing at a children's card game will literally kill you. So if Zane says it's going to work, I'm just going to take his word.
@@ZyrusSmith He could have been resuscitated... Death isn't very final nowadays. It takes a few minutes at roughly body temperature for it to be guaranteed.
Thinking about how to avoid a "during your standby phase" effect only brings up a single result in my head. An old ass trap card called Solomon's Lawbook that simply reads "Skip your next standby phase". Had the card as a kid, never saw a single way to use it, and never managed to remove it from my memories.
According to the Yugioh fandom wiki, there are.... apparently 3 other cards which might have beneficial synergy with Solomon's Lawbook (one of which, Mirage of Nightmare, is banned). The other two cards are... not great cards: Dust Barrier remains active on the field, but its only effect is to prevent Normal monsters from being affected by the opponents Spells (so Traps still affect them), and Swords of Concealing Light, which would similarly remain active on the field, but its only effect is... preventing the opponent from switching battle positions. The other cards listed, like Future Fusion, actually fail to resolve if the standby phase is skipped lmao.
Ah the Lawbook, I still want to see a deck that uses it effectively. But that'll never happen for as long as draw meta persists. No wonder Pot of Greed is banned.
Very meaningful how the last monster he had on the field was Cyber End Dragon and not CyberDark Dragon. It shows he was trying to make amends for the shitty way he was behaving.
*Lux Tenax* Zane Truesdale became a tragedy character in Season 2 of Yu-Gi-Oh GX and Season 3 was like a last hurrah for him. Season 4 was a passing of the torch to Syrus and went on to build a new deck.
@@nelsonpineda8047 The point is to crossover with _Roids._ We've had Cyber/Cyberdark now; let's get the Roids in on it already, like what happened with the Ojamas.
I don’t know, but it would be interesting to see him do a breakdown of it. I think Yugi probably could’ve, but Rafael’s Guardians were a pain in the ass to deal with.
I'd wanna see a breakdown of this as well since Raphael is the only one who truly defeated and utterly destroyed Yami (I wouldn't count Kaiba, Joey and Yugi since it's quite possible he held back against them).
@@NickWuebker jup, not killing Kaiba here is what I meant by "holding back" in this case, although Yami was still going for the attack, because ain't there nothing worse than losing a duel apparently (as evident in the duel VS. Raphael).
This is definitely a Duel warranting discussion. Atem felt he was backed into a corner and had no choice but to play the Seal. But was that really true?
My favorite part about dark Zane was when he threw his deck to the ground to summon chimeratech dragon. I can just imagine him picking up all the cards after the duel.
I love how in the dimension world Yubel opened it introduced the whole dark world archetype, Armageddon archetype, skull knight, freed, maiden of aqua, chaos sorceror, guardian of the labyrinth, goblin elite attack force, kozaky and sky scout all in one place.
@@Rei-O-Rei Ah yes of course; all of them had cool effects as well and were protected from card effects if they were fusion summoned with dark fusion spell card. It's a shame we never learnt how Jaden and Yuri got super polymerization though
@@twilightstar9973 We _know_ how Judai got Super Fusion; from Brron, Mad King of Dark World, when he didn't succeed in completing it on his own. Where he got the idea and figured out how to do it, who knows. And Yuri? ...aside from this theory video, I got nuthin': ruclips.net/video/1I0tpsuyt14/видео.html
I mean....if someone could teach them then cyberdragons vs dark law turbos gonna be instresting however if no one is teaching them thenyea he wins handsdown
It’s unfortunate that Zane’s heart got the better of him but this is still one of the best duels of the season . Thanks TGS Anime and ask for why he didn’t set down Cybernetic Technology down on his first, it’s because…..for dramatic effect?
I love the fact that in his first duel against Judai, Johan says that his deck doesn't have any destructive cards because he doesn't believe in that style of dueling. But when he is posessed by Yubel, his strategy relies on sending his monsters to the GV so he can summon Dark Rainbow Dragon. God this season is amazing.
The coolest part is that the strategy is a natural evolution of the deck's normal gameplay too, because it really wants to summon Rainboy Dragon quickly. It shows how even a peaceful tool can be used as a weapon if it gets used by a third party.
@@lpfan4491 Eh, if that was the case there was no need for the “Dark versions” of the monsters, they should have stayed as they are to really sell that point
@@TheKpa11 Then we should throw out the evil heroes too, I guess. Because they go by the same concept of "Using your full potential is not always a good thing" and it just being a more high power-version of the regular deck. It's really basically the same.
@@lpfan4491I wouldn't say it's don't use your full potential. It's don't give in to hatred and pain. Accept your own self and weaknesses. When Jaden used super poly and supreme king power he was using his full potential because the evil heros are powerful but have massive inconsistentcy because they have 2 cards they can fuse with.
Well, 4kids didn't choose not to dub season 4, Konami told them to start dubbing 5ds right after season 3 so 5ds would release at the same time in the us and japan
When I read Cybernetic Zone, this was the first time I ever thought, "this is pointless". Props to YugiohEpicDuels for finding out a way to incorporate it in Zane's Deck. Basically, you use Cybernetic Zone to protect Cyber End for a turn, then, during your next standby phase, use Defusion to get 3 Cyber Dragons back, for whatever you want to do with them next
To anyone wondering chimeritech fortress dragon's tcg effect is that it doesnt use polymerization and sends fusion material from either field to the grave and it gains 1000 attack for each fusion material
18:21 this is now my official new reaction whenever I read bad cards. Thank you. Misplays or not, this duel has always been iconic for me. Rest In Peace King Zane…for now.
@@mcrafter3000 If you watched English dub then it really was the end of Zane since season 3 was last. If you watch Japanese version then yeah season 4.
I mean, you are allowed to have more than one copy of a card in your deck. None of the Crystal Beasts are limited in any way. Same goes for Rainbow (Dark) Dragon.
At least that has ways to search out your monsters and has traps that can turn into monsters... about 90% of Jesses's plays require him to already have some Crystal Beasts out first.
Not just him, Adrian very much would have won as well had Yubel not pull that trick of using Echo’s darkness against him. EDIT: Wait, I forgot that in the context of the anime, Yubel was who attacked. Yubel coaxing Echo (or in this case, Grinder Golem) into attacking in context was Yubel declaring an attack so to speak. So never mind, in that sense she did win fairly.
You sure about that; Yubel summoned grinder golem to Adrian's field and got 2 grinder tokens on her field that she tributed to summon herself so how did she cheat? I think Adrian didn't activate Backup soldier (trap) quick enough. He could have activated it on Yubel's turn when Yubel finished her draw and standby phase and won with Exodia
That was just fluff, anime Yubel redirects damage even if she attacks, so Yubel would've won even without that darkness trick, and unlike the Zane duel it didn't have an effect on Adrian's psyche that could've changed the way he dueled because it didn't happen until it was Yubel's final turn.
Loved this duel. Was impressive and full of emotion. I'd love to see a Yugi vs Raphael breakdown and and a Joey vs Mai breakdown too. I definitely feel like Joey and Mai's duel was ominous since Valon interrupted it. I feel like Mai would've lost but she was having a slight meltdown atm but she could've pulled herself together to win
Great video as per, one thing though, all these cards used in the anime are 1000x different to irl, and ofc you get that. What's different though, the effect of the cards in the anime are probably the official effects. The irl cards were likely balanced to improve the versatility of played decks, cards, etc; to improve Yu Gi Oh marketing basically. So power bond might've permanently doubled Cyber End Dragon's attack, letting Cybernetic Zone double that doubled attack to the seen 16k, we never know though. Kind of like how in Yu Gi Oh Duel Links, Lava Golem's 1k effect damage was reduced to 500 for balancing, and in that case, it isn't original Lava Golem, which is kinda the point I'm making.
that doesnt work with power bond, as powerbond damage doesnt start a chain, you cannot activate effects to it, like barrel or spell of pain. Prime material Dragon, being continous does work:D, Zane needs to go to pegasus and ask for a Cyber Material Dragon, a cyber version of prime material dragon:D
@@TheGreatSalsaMan there is alot of bullshit ruling in yugioh, the word one i encountered was in the old days with Machina Fortress (a lvl 7 machine that you can special summon from the hand or GY, by discarding 8 starts) , the ruling being you can discard itslef to summon itself. wich is stupid as you activate the effect in the hand, and when you discard itself, its no longer in the hand so the effect should stop, but some ruling was made for it that becaue it can also be summoned from the GY with that effect it still works.
@@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega machina fortress includes that it can summon from the hand OR GY so it makes sense it can be used and can still summon as long as it exists in one or the other.
Probably one of the best duels in the series. Me and my cyber dragon playing friend back in the day often had Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End facing off***
This duel kept me on the edge of my seat, not just because of Zane's condition, but the back and forth of the duelists involved. Edo wil be my always favorite Gx character but every duel including Zane is heart pumping
Man what a fantastic analysis video. Love how this channel not only focus on the YGO card game, but also the anime and manga. Would love to see a video analysis of the Jesse/Yubel vs. Amon duel that directly followed the Zane duel. That one was pretty great as well.
The heart attacks were his cyber dark cards trying to kill him, and we know he's a master of drawing the right cards (one of the reasons he was chosen to wield cyber dragon deck), so I actually think he meant to draw limiter removal, but since he had that heart attack right before he drew, he got cybernetic zone instead, costing him the duel. That's what it always looked like to me.
@@sasir2013 it's stated in multiple Yu-Gi-Oh series that duelists can learn to control their draws. GX episode 17 Damon says one can learn to do so, and another GX episode implies that Shepard acknowledged Zane's ability to control his draws and then told him he was the heir of the cyber legacy. Arc-V literally lists "how to draw cards" in the school curriculum as part of a taught class. Kaiba stated that he learned the heart of the cards by watching Yugi and since then could always top deck what he needed.
@@adrianjude9041 Yeah, it has been said in yugioh series, but I don't remember anyone saying in the show that zane could do so. What did shepard say exactly?
@@sasir2013 There are two instances with Sheppard that heavily imply that zane can control his draws The first one is Shepard's monologue in which he talks about having taught many students but none as talented as Zane, and that Zane was "his best". During the entire monologue, the only thing being shown is Zane practicing his draws with the other students. The second is right after Shepard passes on the cyber dragon legacy to Zane, and Zane asks how to summon cyber end dragon (CED), in which Shepard replies that the card will tell him in due time. Zane is then shown in front of the mural of CED asking the duel spirit to tell him how to summon it, and he proceeds to practice his draws. During one of his drawing practice sessions, Zane is shown to finally speak with CED's spirit in the mural and it tells him how to summon it. Zane then tells this to Sheppard, who replies that he has finally bonded with his spirit, implying that one most be very good at drawing their cards (aka controlling their draw) in order to bond with this spirit. The way I see it, why would the animators specifically focus on zane drawing cards throughout sheppard's monologue and then animate Zane practicing his draws again when learning to speak to his spirit and summon CED if he can't control his draws? That's literally the only thing we ever see of young zane training to be a duelist under sheppard. we never see him duel - just drawing cards.
I love this duel in the JP version. When Zane starts his volley of Fortress Dragon attacks, his Japanese VA absolutely tears the script up. I recommend checking it out if you haven't, it'll give you goosebumps.
Zane: "Syrus, you aren't allowed to use power bond because you lost a duel due to using it wrong." 😠 Also Zane: *Loses his last duel due to power bond's effect *
To be fair, he was banking on power bond boosted CED swinging for game (not knowing yubel's facedown would counter that). But yea, even in OCG/TCG you don't go for a power bond unless you have a backup plan like 1 day of peace.
DharcDaniel If the user wants to benefit from Power Bond damage of the end phase, they can use Rainbow Life. Whenever you would take damage, you will instead gain Life Points until the end phase. And yes Rainbow Life effect lasts until the very end of the end phase. So the Power Bond’ed Cyber End Dragon, instead of taking of 4000 damage at the end of your turn, you will gain 4000 life points. Rainbow Life is a trap card, so traditionally you will have to set it and wait for it be your turn if you use it the way I do though. You also have to discard a card to activate it. But there are Cyber Dragon cards that have effects when they are in the Graveyard. Whenever I have the set up, I activate Rainbow Life on my Standby Phase. If they negate it, I know it would be too risky to play.
@@Nameer401 In the original Japanese sub, Judai dies after fusing with Yubel, Zane dies from a heart condition in the final duel against Yubel, Joey dies against Marik just before beating him, and Pegasus dies after Bakura rips his millenium eye out. 4Kids obviously wouldn't put death in a "kids show", but technically this was supposed to be Zane's last duel canonically
It's hilarious how Yubel mocks Kaiser for summoning 0 attack points monsters thinking Kaiser was just misplaying...coming from the 0 attack point monster themselves Peak clownery
I agree, they wanted to make zane loose.it would be limiter removal if it was zanes old duels where he wins by it at the end of duels. or it would be pot of greed or anything that would help him win. I think zane didnt use his deck as old days, he just summoned cyber end once. In the old days he would summon it many times until he wins :(( This duel was so much focused on showing zanes all cards like barrier dragon etc. Normally instead of showing those cards, they could show more useful cards and winning scenarios. But they had to make zane loose for the plot so they did. By the way I liked the way u analyzed. U were so respectful and well talker while analysing instead of mocking etc like most reviewers.
It wouldn’t of been that bad to the plot Yubel is in her true form and Zane achieves his objective of freeing Jesse only difference is no Jaden vs Jesse but Jaden vs Yubel would even be more intense
@@Deathmare235 it would've made Jaden more depressed and throw the next duel just to punish himself, remember, he thought getting sent to the stars was dying, plus Zane heart attack would've made it worse
@@JadenFox9 he’d be impressed at Zane just like the old duel and with Jesse also being weak it leaves only Jaden though it would be interesting if they manage to fit a duel with Crowler and Syrus vs Yubel with Gecko coming in to save them
Truly the greatest moment in Zane's life. And since you talked about Yubel I hope you do a video on her and Jaden's final Duel in season 3, as that is also a personal favorite of mine right alongside Zane vs Yubel here.
Ironically, if Zane had played more cautiously he might have won. What do I mean? Well, during the turn he summons Cyber Twin, if he had just stopped attacking once he realised Jessie/Yubel was dumping Crystal Beasts to the GY and just ended his turn, while maybe setting Cybernetic Hidden Technology face down just in case, he would have been in a MUCH stronger position. As now Jessie/Yubel would have no choice but to set their one trap in hand and just end their turn. Sure, they could crash their Crystal Beasts on the field into his Cyber Dragons, but that would leave them with no defense except Rainbow Path which would only negate 1 attack. Delaying the summon of RDD and forcing them to either sit and wait for Zane to attack into them or wait to draw into RDD. And since we know they won't draw into any field wipes or cards that would let them get over Zane's monster, the latter could reliably stall for *several* turns to get more resources and potentially win the Duel as once RDD *is* summoned, Zane would have way more options to deal with it. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying Zane misplayed. He thought he had game with the plays he made that turn and since had had no way to know Rainbow Path was the card set, its completely fine. But, yeah, if Zane hadn't extended like he did, he probably would have won.
Zane did a great job during this duel who almost won but was defeated by Jesse/Yubel. For the next video for this series could you do: Was Dark Signer Kalin about to win against Yusei during the first time they dueled?
Still the most BS copout in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh. "Oh shit I am about to lose, D-Wheel go burrr!" Like come the hell on. They just HAD to protect Yusei's record that hard?
@@Deathmare235 the only reason Zane even lost is because the anime forced him to have a trashier version of Limiter Removal instead of the actual Limiter Removal. He lost because the plot needed him to lose. I know that’s easy to say all the time but the animators made it blatantly obvious that they needed to give him a bad card with almost no purpose in place of the card that would’ve actually made him win lol You know the animators were thinking “man, he really should have LR here…but screw it, Jaden needs to be the one to win”
@@Random1567 If it were me, I would have tacked on "draw a card" to the effect of Cybernetic Zone, and the last thing he draws is a Cyberdark card. It would have fed into the character arc of him leading himself astray and suffering consequences for it, as well as potentially tying into the theme next season with "the deck wants a new way to evolve".
I have a few thing to say (by the way, i'm sorry if my english is not too good): 1- On the scenario when Zane set "Cybernetic Hidden Technology" on his first turn, if at the end he "crashes" his "Cyber End Dragon" with "Rainbow Dark Dragon", didn't that means that "Power Bond's" cost wouldn't apply? I'm saying this because, on his duel agains Camula (the vampire woman) he uses "De-Fusion" after summoning "Cyber End" with "Power Bond", wich saves him from the cost because "Cyber End" isn't on the fiel anymore. 2- This is more like a question than something to point. Without "Advanced Dark" on the field, wouldn't all the "Advanced Crystal Beasts" be destroyed? After all, when Jaden duels with Jesse/Yubel and uses "Storm Neos's" effect to destroy all the magic and trap cards on the field, "Advanced Drak" included, all the "Advanced Crystal Beasts" on the field are destroyed AND they aren't set on the magic/trap zone, wich implies that without the field spell, they can't be on the field. So, if Jesse/Yubel send it to the graveyard with "Counter Gem", wouldn't that means that he cannot have the "Advanced Crystal Beasts" on the field to boost "Rainbow Dark Dragon's" attack? Sorry if i wrote too much (and if i have any ortographic mistakes) but i would like some answers to this if you don't mind.
1) cyber end dragon still returned to the field during the end phase so power bond cost will apply, 2)storm neos's effect destroys spells and traps and since crystal beasts and advanced crystal beasts are treated as continous spell so they are destroyed. And in monster zone they are destroyed too because advanced dark isn't on the field anymore.
The best duel in GX, in my opinion. They both have cool decks, the stakes are super high, and it ends with one of the most dramatic deaths in the show. Sucks they brought him back though. I love season 4, but Ryou/Zane should have stayed dead.
I think it’s fine because everyone that “died” in the other world didn’t actually die, but we’re absorbed into some world by Yubel or whatever, which actually saves Ryou/Zane.
@@seqka711 that’s true - there’s definitely an inconsistency there. I’m glad the writers brought him back even if it was poorly executed because his tie-in to Sho/Cyrus(?)’s arc in S4 was very good IMO.
@@silverarch0633 but you're forgetting that Kaiser didnt die because he lost the duel. He had a full on heart attack. That's more of a reason for his death than the duel loss, and by the way the show explained it I got the impression that everyone who lost the duel in the dark world got back, and since Kaiser died due to the heart attack it would make sense as to why he wasn't brought back
@@MobiusLeader007 Imagine if Zane had MST, and just removed Advanced Dark in the first 3 turns or something. Biggest problem with all these crazy, 'unbeatable' anime decks/combos, they run singles of all their cards, and they all have big vulnerable lynchpins.
@@natesiress1057 Zane does actually have MST in his deck, he used it in his first ever duel against Jaden way back in Season 1, but never played it again
I'm very glad that there wasn't any huge misplays that could've won Zane the game if he avoided playing them. It makes it much more meaningful that he really was playing his absolute best and if he had just completely overlooked a winning strategy, it would've made that idea feel fake imo.
I think that's part of why Sora vs. Shun is so well-received, too--there aren't any significant misplays or alternative plays which could have resulted in a different outcome (barring the Action Cards), but rather it was apparently the only possible outcome. I probably try too hard to replicate that inevitability in my scripted duels.
Regarding crystal gem. Why should it send the field spell if that is in the field zone. However counter gem notably also sends ITSELF to the grave otherwise there couldn't be 5 crystals, as traps are sent to the grave by game mechanics when the effect is fully resolved.
Couldn't Zane have survived another turn...and probably won? You mentioned how there was a sequence that would have lead to Rainbow Dragon only getting a boost to 8000 ATK. If Zane made CyberEnd Dragon crash into it, that would remove both monsters from the field. As far as I'm aware, Power Bond's anime detrimental effect doesn't apply if CyberEnd is off the field at the end of the Battle Phase (please see the duel with Camula). It would then be Jesse's turn. With all his monsters in the grave, he'd need to draw something that would return them at least one of them to the field to go for game. If Jesse doesn't draw something to bring a monster back or defend himself, it passes to Zane's turn and he just needs to draw any of the monsters still in his deck or any of the cards he has to leverage his graveyard monsters, and he wins. Granted it's a gamble but the little I know of their decks makes me think the odds would be in Zane's favour (plot allowing of course) - note Yugi had much worse odds against Noah.
Wait I thought dark rainbow dragon’s effect can’t be used the turn it’s summoned so if Zane did activate the continuous trap when rainbow dragon attacked cyber barrier dragon couldn’t Zane just tribute a cyber dragon and destroy rainbow dragon since again rainbow dragon can’t use it’s effect the turn summon? (Btw it probably just can’t active the effect that boosts its attack but I’m not sure)
@@TGSAnime I’m not completely sure about my observation either but regardless love these series of videos keep on with them cause they’re really enjoyable and fun to watch as a yugioh
@@Deathmare235 yeah idek know the ocg/tcg effect of dark rainbow dragon word for word so like I said it might just be it can’t boost it’s attack the turn it’s summoned but can still use it’s other effect
@@Deathmare235 the anime is as the one he mentioned, it cant activate like literally ANY of the effects the turn its Summoned, because it has only 2 activate effects and 1 summoning requirement.
I would've rather had Zane win this duel but still die in the end. Have his final moments redeeming himself for the dark path he chose by saving Jesse. It doesn't matter much that Yubel loses using the Crystal Beast deck since she only loses control of Jesse and immediately switches decks afterwards. The stakes don't really change.
Awesome video and excellent analysis. @9:58, One small thing, as a Crystal Beast player, if Jessie had played Counter Gem, as you said to stop from being destroyed. He would have had 0 protection because at the end of the turn Counter Gem sends all Crystal Beast cards you control to the graveyard. So, therefore Zane would have won at the end of the duel because Rainbow Dark would have had nothing to boost its attack if we go by the real life effect. But going off the anime, it would have sent that Rainbow Life that Jessie set to the graveyard via the requirements of Counter Gem. Meaning that Zane would have inflicted enough damage from Chimeratech Overload Dragon.
*Fun fact:* If Power Bond had retained its S1 effect for the entire show, changing only a single card is all that's needed for Zane to win: Power Bond's anime effect pre-S2 only gibs if the monster is still on the field during the End Phase (see Camula vs Zane) and it only gibs the current controller of the monster rather than the activator of the card. So if, hypothetically speaking, Cybernetic Zone had been replaced with Creature Swap (which we know he had in his deck) and he'd used it rather than just attacking, Zane would have been able to burn Yubel-Possessed Jesse during his End Phase and win. ....... Of course this could've also been avoided if they'd just let him use Limiter Removal instead of Cybernetic Zone during the Damage Step. 😂 Edit: Just made it to the end of the video where you've made the same Limiter Removal point 🙈
Yup, it’s sad they couldn’t keep consistent with power bond. The entire time that was how Zane was shown to avoid the damage, but here they finally use its real effect
@@Deathmare235 Yeah there are 2 distinct cards, since one is categorised as 'later anime' - its burn damage in S1 is based on the monster's presence on the field; in S2 & on it's based on the actual card being activated.
It technically doesn't matter because some weird animeruling in Cybernetic Zone made the monster keep the effect of Powerbond, meaning Zane gets selfburned either way.
@@lpfan4491 Not that I don't believe you, but do you have any reference to the weird anime ruling; if you're referring to the fact that Zane still lost after playing Cybernetic Zone, that's because the Power Bond's end-of-turn effect damage had already been changed to its current version, where activating it causes the self-gib during the End Phase regardless of where the monster summoned is. In S1, the monster leaving the field would basically 'remove' Power Bond's effects from the field, so Cybernetic Zone with S1 Power Bond would remove the burn damage (as far as I'm aware), which is why I'm interested to know what your statement is based on in case I simply haven't come across it.
honestly if zane had limiter removal instead of cybernetic zone, he very much would've won, but no because of stupid plot armor, he lost and it has to be jaden to defeat yubel
It wouldn’t of even mattered if Zane best Yubel Yubel still had her true firm which she could’ve used against Adrian but Zane still frees Jesse and dies not only with the best duel of his life but completing his other objective only loss was Jesse vs Jaden but it would be worth it
I have several objections! (Edgeworth Voice: Objection!) 1) Overload Fusion can only summon Dark Machihe Fusion, Cyber End Dragon is light, therefore is not eligible for Overload Fusion 2) the target for Power Bond must stay on the field (and not leave it) for Power Bond's drawback to kick in. Since Cyber End Dragon left the field from Cybernetic Zone's effect, Zane should not take damage from Power Bond's drawback and this leads to 3) sadly that is how it works with Cybernetic Zone & power bond in both the anime & Real Life. Cyber End Dragon in both anime & real life keeps its bonus power from Power Bond even if it leaves the field
Honestly I felt like they really nerfed zane so hard in this duel I mean last time we saw him face jesse he was dominating him so hard having all 3 of his ace monsters on turn 3 and here we see him face yubel the ultimate villain of season 03 yet he's not using the cards that he want through all that trouble of climbing an entire mountain just for him to lose because plot demands jaden vs yubel which is a huge letdown Imo
I really wish TSG would make these videos using the japanese version. The dialogue is much, much better, and they actually show what each of the characters are thinking, which sometimes makes way more sense than in the dub.
Zane could've won on his second turn. Instead of summoning Cyber Twin Dragon, he could fusion Summon Chimeratech Rampage Dragon using 2 + cyber dragon monsters. He could then destroy Advance Dark field spell, and Crystal Path using Chimeratech Rampage Dragons' effect. Then by sending 2 light machine type monsters from the deck to the graveyard it gains 2 additional attacks. At 2,100 ATK and with 3 attacks against the 3 crystal beasts, he would deal 2,800 DMG to Jessie/Yubel. Then Zane could activate Diffusion to send Rampage Dragon back to the extra deck to Summon 2 Cyber Dragons to attack directly with, winning the duel.
I expected as such. Still both characters put their all into it and the fact zane shook yubal is a whole other thing. I mean, how many characters could do that.
Like you said cybernetic zone isn't a very useful card unless for one turn defence. However there are plenty of cards in yugioh that force your oppent to attack forcing there monster to crash into it and even if you don't there cards like dimensional transporter to save your monster.
Oh my god I love this duel. GX was always one of my less liked seasons but any duel with Zane was a treat to watch...except for the disrespect from Aster. That final duel in season 3 was magificent and I always love to think about how Advanced Dark, a field spell specifcally made yes, to dump Crystal's into graveyard, but also be defensive as all hell with other defensive cards (Rainbow Bridge and Rainbow Life) debuted against an all attack style deck. Like they had to just throw the most defensive option possible to stop Zane, espically considering he almost won, twice during that duel and while yes Yubel came close to winning, it was only at the end. Theory: I have a theory of why Zane didn't set his trap earlier and I'd say it's because of hand cards. On first turn the argument can be made since he didn't do much it wouldn't seem like a problem but on second turn it was his ONLY hand card, and as evidenced by Yubel's comment when Zane had nothing left, Zane knew he couldn't afford to let Yubel think something wasn't coming. Basically I'm saying he was using it as a bluff and didn't set it until he really needed to. Am I wrong, probably but still a thought. Either way this duel is awesome and I will forever love how Zane willingly went down on his own turn instead of letting Yubel finish him off, and even scared Yubel too with revival of Cyber End Dragon. That is how you do a rival's final fight if they can't beat the main villian.
He needed to get Limiter Removal at the end and that would have been the perfect finish. But since he is not the main character, they needed to make him lose for the sake of plot..
You say that but Alexis in Season 1 won against the Shadow Rider version of Titan. It may or may not count depending on perspective but in Season 2 Jaden lost against Aster in their first duel. Jaden may be the main character, but he doesn’t always participate in the duels that drive the main plot along.
@@theomnigamer9177 Let's be real, though: Alexis was only allowed to have that win on Titan because Jaden had already beaten the guy before (after he kidnapped her, no less). And that was her *only* contribution to the Shadow Riders arc, too, even though her missing brother was also one of the Shadow Riders. Man, Alexis got done so dirty by this show.
I wonder what duel is next. I can’t wait. Also you are my favorite yugioh RUclips channel . I watch all your videos. Thank you for your hard work. My fav videos is when you do these videos on if this character could have defeated this character
So here’s the funny moment of animation I was gonna mention. It’s when Zane attacks with twin dragon, we cut to “Jesse” who uses his left arm to put the cards he’s holding into his right hand’s fingers, then that hand shifts the cards to the pinkie and ring finger, so he then uses his remaining fingers to pull out the entire deck, then he unfolds it with his left hand and pulls the crystal beast from the deck to negate the damage. It’s such a crazy moment for me just thinking about the animation that they decided to do. Actually have some realism, only to then give it up when it came to unfolding the entire deck of cards like they were all stuck together.
We should NEVER FORGET YUBEL 13 years of waiting for Konami to show some llve for one of the best antagonists on Yugioh history EDIT - They did. They made her meta.
The hypothetical zane has a chance to win sence the anime version of power bond doesnt do the damage to you if the fusion made with power bond isn't on the field so if zane doesn't use cybernetic zone in the hypothetical rainbow dark and cyber end would be destroyed and then its up to what jesse/yubel draws
It’d have been much more fitting if Zane activated his Cybernetic Hidden Technology. He DOES win in a sense; he defeats Rainbow Dark Dragon. However, it costs him his Ace Monster and the duel in the process. The story would be better imo, even if the numbers were smaller.
In the anime, power bond only deals the damage to whoever's controls the fusion monster so if rainbow dark dragon crashes with it, then Zane would not take the damage since nobody controls it. 10:00 (so because of the rulings with that wording on the card, even if he dident crash, cyber end dragon was placed on the field with cybernetic zone, so since it wasent with power bond, he wouldent take the damage anyway because of how power bond works in the anime)
You always have a Limiter Removal in a Machine deck. That's how I made my Machine deck back in the day. **goes back to rocking in the chair on the front porch**
Lol, I watched this duel literally a moment ago in a different page and this video came up in my recommended feed. You literally might have published it when I started watching the duel. I can't believe this coincidence XD
19:55 It should have been Limited Removal because that’s the same combo he used against Jaden in the graduation match. Then have some additional cheese where it’s too strong for Zane to control at that point and he collapses. Duel over. That way it would have ended similarly to how Joey and Merrick dueled in Battle City Finals, where Joey collapsed before victory.
Zane was one of those characters who deserved a Seto Kaiba, Yugi Mutou or Joey Wheeler fight. A character as powerful as him only deserves to duel the best.
I know it was epic for Zane to use power bond as soon as he drew it, but he could’ve just switched all his cyber dragons to defence then just passed his turn. It’s the smartest thing to do but he would’ve never done it because he was playing all out.
Hang on, you said he has two options with Overload fusion: Cyber Dragon which is a light Monster and Chrimeratech which is dark but doesn't Overload fusion lock him into Dark fusion monsters?
Zane lost due to the script, if he would have gotten his usual limiter removal and not that bs card he would have won. Plus that seal of orichalcos jesse used it was ridiculous op, cancel everything + setting up your board + combo extender they really needed to make the best duelist on the show loose
The confusion comes from the following episode. Zane loses due to power bond after rainbow dark dragon stops his attack. In the following episode, a flashback of the duel is cut in such a way that it looks like Zane was about to win.
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Can we appreciate how out of all the weird things the Dub censors, they didnt censor a man having a heart attack in the middle of a duel. And even had an X-Ray action shot of his heart stopping...You confuse me Dub
Yubel has an effect on them
The x-ray shots of Zane's heart are pretty cool imo. They clearly showed that time was running out for him.
Where can I find the new season of Yu-Gi-Oh GX that you talked about in the vid?
Yeah the dub is weird. So very weird. 4kids is odd with Yugioh one minute they take away guns the next they show an honest to god heart attack. Although on that note Yugioh has the invisible guns things right well in Sonic X they show actual guns on screen both hand and military. Yes they make laser sounds but they are still guns actual realistic guns that they don't paint over or anything. Like you said you confuse me Dub. Although let's also appreciate Scotty Ray's perfromance in this episode as Zane. I love him so much in the dub and he has such a badass voice so fitting of Zane. He's the perfect Dub Zane, at least by 4kids actors maybe there's a funimation actor who would've better but regardless props to that man.
@@BranBronzebeard701 Season 4?
Crunchy roll, get a free trial, watch it
Sub only, not a big fan
Still solid but season 3 will always be my fave, Yubels my favourite card and character, its a crime she has 3 cards
My favorite part of this duel was Zane attempting to use his own heart attack as part of his dueling strategy. He planned to attack Yubel with lethal damage, forcing Yubel to leave Jesse's body, then spare Jesse by ending the duel mid attack WITH HIS OWN DEATH. It's only appropriate that he plays a machine deck, because that strategy is metal as fuck.
Would that have worked? The rules should have made them both “die” right?
@@TheKpa11 Attacks have been cancelled by the duellist declaring them being rendered unable to continue the duel before, evenif they'd win from that attack going through.
@@TheKpa11 The only rulebook they're playing by is the rules of an alternate dimension where losing at a children's card game will literally kill you. So if Zane says it's going to work, I'm just going to take his word.
Zane didn't die and we need to stop saying that he did. He's alive and well in literally the next season.
@@ZyrusSmith He could have been resuscitated...
Death isn't very final nowadays.
It takes a few minutes at roughly body temperature for it to be guaranteed.
Thinking about how to avoid a "during your standby phase" effect only brings up a single result in my head. An old ass trap card called Solomon's Lawbook that simply reads "Skip your next standby phase". Had the card as a kid, never saw a single way to use it, and never managed to remove it from my memories.
According to the Yugioh fandom wiki, there are.... apparently 3 other cards which might have beneficial synergy with Solomon's Lawbook (one of which, Mirage of Nightmare, is banned).
The other two cards are... not great cards: Dust Barrier remains active on the field, but its only effect is to prevent Normal monsters from being affected by the opponents Spells (so Traps still affect them), and Swords of Concealing Light, which would similarly remain active on the field, but its only effect is... preventing the opponent from switching battle positions. The other cards listed, like Future Fusion, actually fail to resolve if the standby phase is skipped lmao.
I used to own the card as a kid. XD
had the card too when i was a kid and immediately traded it for my friend's kuriboh.
Ah the Lawbook, I still want to see a deck that uses it effectively.
But that'll never happen for as long as draw meta persists.
No wonder Pot of Greed is banned.
Oh my gosh I have that card and forgot all about it. It's perfect for this situation!
Very meaningful how the last monster he had on the field was Cyber End Dragon and not CyberDark Dragon. It shows he was trying to make amends for the shitty way he was behaving.
*Lux Tenax* Zane Truesdale became a tragedy character in Season 2 of Yu-Gi-Oh GX and Season 3 was like a last hurrah for him. Season 4 was a passing of the torch to Syrus and went on to build a new deck.
@@JaimeD. yeah
@@JaimeD. Day 4991 of waiting for crossover support between Roids and Cyber Dragons and/or Cyberdarks.
@@christopherb501 did you hear cyber structure deck with more cyber dark support
@@nelsonpineda8047 The point is to crossover with _Roids._ We've had Cyber/Cyberdark now; let's get the Roids in on it already, like what happened with the Ojamas.
Zane is the reason I run cyber dragons IRL. Don't even care about bricking I just love how Zane played the archetype
Same
@@theneo-spacianplayer 👁️👃🏾👁️👃🏾👁️
@@Picmanreborn I don’t understand as to what you are trying to say
Big nahmburrr
@@theneo-spacianplayer your name doesn't match what you said LMFAO
Yeah he died and lost but…the look and pure freak out in yubelies face when they go “16k ATTACK”!?! Is one of my favorites moments in this arc.
Hell of a way to go out. Had Zane used Cyber Kirin, Jesse/Yubel would have no answer for a 16k ATK Cyber End Dragon when Zane's next turn came around.
@@cameraredeye3115 no in standy phase he goes to gy so nope, only liit removal shpuld let him won buy yuber could have more
he dosnt die lol
I'd love to see an analysis like this of Yugi's first duel with Rafael. Could Yugi have won without playing the Seal of Orichalcos?
I don’t know, but it would be interesting to see him do a breakdown of it. I think Yugi probably could’ve, but Rafael’s Guardians were a pain in the ass to deal with.
I'd wanna see a breakdown of this as well since Raphael is the only one who truly defeated and utterly destroyed Yami (I wouldn't count Kaiba, Joey and Yugi since it's quite possible he held back against them).
@@solidzack Yeah, and Kaiba had to basically threaten suicide to beat Yugi at Duelist Kingdom.
@@NickWuebker jup, not killing Kaiba here is what I meant by "holding back" in this case, although Yami was still going for the attack, because ain't there nothing worse than losing a duel apparently (as evident in the duel VS. Raphael).
This is definitely a Duel warranting discussion. Atem felt he was backed into a corner and had no choice but to play the Seal. But was that really true?
This duels is still in the top 10 best duels in the franchise for me.
I still like chaz's ojama combo HAHAHA
Top 5 not even “hot take” IMO
My favorite part about dark Zane was when he threw his deck to the ground to summon chimeratech dragon. I can just imagine him picking up all the cards after the duel.
Or any time he uses power wall like the hologram doesn’t affect the actual cards
Or in that one duel against Atticus where he activates Power Wall and throws out like 30 cards onto the ground
I can imagine little Syrus sneaks in somehow and picks them up for him
@@Kingfigaro Only off screen would Zane say “Thanks bro. Couldn’t break character.”
You mean Cyberdark Dragon?
I love how in the dimension world Yubel opened it introduced the whole dark world archetype, Armageddon archetype, skull knight, freed, maiden of aqua, chaos sorceror, guardian of the labyrinth, goblin elite attack force, kozaky and sky scout all in one place.
Don't forget the Evil HERO archetype
@@Rei-O-Rei Ah yes of course; all of them had cool effects as well and were protected from card effects if they were fusion summoned with dark fusion spell card. It's a shame we never learnt how Jaden and Yuri got super polymerization though
There’s an entire Yugioh series with this premise alone. A way to use the Yugioh brand beyond the card games really
@@twilightstar9973 We _know_ how Judai got Super Fusion; from Brron, Mad King of Dark World, when he didn't succeed in completing it on his own. Where he got the idea and figured out how to do it, who knows.
And Yuri? ...aside from this theory video, I got nuthin':
ruclips.net/video/1I0tpsuyt14/видео.html
If GX got a remake with current cards available, Zane would crush them all.
Nobody needs to teach him how to build the overlay network. XD
@@harryc657 Oh my god no not the rank 5 devil itself .
I mean....if someone could teach them then cyberdragons vs dark law turbos gonna be instresting however if no one is teaching them thenyea he wins handsdown
Heroes would disagree with all the heroes support
@@giulianopisciottano8302 you could probably kill them just by dropping all the supports on there heads
It’s unfortunate that Zane’s heart got the better of him but this is still one of the best duels of the season . Thanks TGS Anime and ask for why he didn’t set down Cybernetic Technology down on his first, it’s because…..for dramatic effect?
This is my favorite GX Duel, Zane was done so dirty by not having limiter removal instead of freaking Cybernetic Zone
I love the fact that in his first duel against Judai, Johan says that his deck doesn't have any destructive cards because he doesn't believe in that style of dueling. But when he is posessed by Yubel, his strategy relies on sending his monsters to the GV so he can summon Dark Rainbow Dragon. God this season is amazing.
The coolest part is that the strategy is a natural evolution of the deck's normal gameplay too, because it really wants to summon Rainboy Dragon quickly. It shows how even a peaceful tool can be used as a weapon if it gets used by a third party.
@@lpfan4491
Eh, if that was the case there was no need for the “Dark versions” of the monsters, they should have stayed as they are to really sell that point
@@TheKpa11 Then we should throw out the evil heroes too, I guess. Because they go by the same concept of "Using your full potential is not always a good thing" and it just being a more high power-version of the regular deck. It's really basically the same.
@@lpfan4491I wouldn't say it's don't use your full potential. It's don't give in to hatred and pain. Accept your own self and weaknesses. When Jaden used super poly and supreme king power he was using his full potential because the evil heros are powerful but have massive inconsistentcy because they have 2 cards they can fuse with.
Your analysis on epic duels such as Zane vs Yubel is intriguing and awesome to watch. Keep up the PHENOMENAL job.
Glad you like them!
Agree I'm glad you started doing this
Sam: "There is a next Season!"
4Kids: "Nope, not in the USA!"
Well, 4kids didn't choose not to dub season 4, Konami told them to start dubbing 5ds right after season 3 so 5ds would release at the same time in the us and japan
The irony in 4kids, the company who censors the hell out of death, ends Yugioh GX with Jaden basically dying.
Where is the next season?!
Iol Jaden died what a beta male. But Judai lived Bitch.
They didn’t even finish doing 5ds in English ?
When I read Cybernetic Zone, this was the first time I ever thought, "this is pointless". Props to YugiohEpicDuels for finding out a way to incorporate it in Zane's Deck. Basically, you use Cybernetic Zone to protect Cyber End for a turn, then, during your next standby phase, use Defusion to get 3 Cyber Dragons back, for whatever you want to do with them next
Still better nine times out of ten to use Interdimensional Matter Transporter.
@@christopherb501 Absolutely
Use Solomon's Lawbook. :^)
To anyone wondering chimeritech fortress dragon's tcg effect is that it doesnt use polymerization and sends fusion material from either field to the grave and it gains 1000 attack for each fusion material
18:21 this is now my official new reaction whenever I read bad cards. Thank you.
Misplays or not, this duel has always been iconic for me. Rest In Peace King Zane…for now.
It’s kaiser Zane or emperor Zane in English actually Hell Emperor instead
Until season 4
@@mcrafter3000 If you watched English dub then it really was the end of Zane since season 3 was last. If you watch Japanese version then yeah season 4.
"8 monsters and a 40 card deck, that's ridiculous"
(Laughs in eldlich)
Except that Jesse seems to always draw at least 2 of those 8 monsters in every single duel
More crystal beast support
I mean, you are allowed to have more than one copy of a card in your deck. None of the Crystal Beasts are limited in any way. Same goes for Rainbow (Dark) Dragon.
@@darkknight5541 true, but the anime (at least the dub not sure about the sub) implies that there’s only one copy of each crystal beast monster card
At least that has ways to search out your monsters and has traps that can turn into monsters... about 90% of Jesses's plays require him to already have some Crystal Beasts out first.
Not just him, Adrian very much would have won as well had Yubel not pull that trick of using Echo’s darkness against him.
EDIT: Wait, I forgot that in the context of the anime, Yubel was who attacked. Yubel coaxing Echo (or in this case, Grinder Golem) into attacking in context was Yubel declaring an attack so to speak. So never mind, in that sense she did win fairly.
You sure about that; Yubel summoned grinder golem to Adrian's field and got 2 grinder tokens on her field that she tributed to summon herself so how did she cheat? I think Adrian didn't activate Backup soldier (trap) quick enough. He could have activated it on Yubel's turn when Yubel finished her draw and standby phase and won with Exodia
That was just fluff, anime Yubel redirects damage even if she attacks, so Yubel would've won even without that darkness trick, and unlike the Zane duel it didn't have an effect on Adrian's psyche that could've changed the way he dueled because it didn't happen until it was Yubel's final turn.
Well grinder golem prevents normal summon so did yubel cheat? Of course because grinder golem’s effect unless it had an anime effect
@@Tuturial464 yes, it does. The original name is Torch Golem, and it doesnt prevent Summons.
yugipedia.com/wiki/Torch_Golem_(anime)
@@boomcardgamer7294 well yeah but still it’s a broken effect for back then cause you could have tribute summon for a monster with a powerful effect
Zane Truesdale was always my favorite character simply due to how amazingly cool his Cyber Dragons are.
Imagine if Cyber End Dragon would have dropped a tear over Zane while it was disappearing...
Dropped some antifreeze😭😭😭
Or one final scream at least
Considering how much GX played up duel monster spirits, having his ace mourn for him feels like something that should have happened.
It's a machine
@@GhostHyperhex Red Tornado is a machine and he's cried even though he didn't realize it. Machines can cry if the writers feel like it.
Loved this duel. Was impressive and full of emotion. I'd love to see a Yugi vs Raphael breakdown and and a Joey vs Mai breakdown too. I definitely feel like Joey and Mai's duel was ominous since Valon interrupted it. I feel like Mai would've lost but she was having a slight meltdown atm but she could've pulled herself together to win
Great video as per, one thing though, all these cards used in the anime are 1000x different to irl, and ofc you get that. What's different though, the effect of the cards in the anime are probably the official effects. The irl cards were likely balanced to improve the versatility of played decks, cards, etc; to improve Yu Gi Oh marketing basically. So power bond might've permanently doubled Cyber End Dragon's attack, letting Cybernetic Zone double that doubled attack to the seen 16k, we never know though. Kind of like how in Yu Gi Oh Duel Links, Lava Golem's 1k effect damage was reduced to 500 for balancing, and in that case, it isn't original Lava Golem, which is kinda the point I'm making.
More of these please. Im really enjoying rewatching and the analysis of these duels I watched when I was a kid. Great job man
You should do Adrian Gecko vs Yubel next. If they hadn't cheated I'm guessing Adrian would have won.
Adrian is like the Lelouch of yugioh such an underrated character
That is a stupid ass name.
This post was made by the “I watched GX Subbed” gang.
@@plushytv5295 His true name is a sunlight fighting technique.
This post was made by the Jojo gang.
@@plushytv5295 Agreed although I didn't use Amon Garam so casual viewers wouldn't be confused.
you mean the duel where he simply could have summoned a leg for lethal ?
Zane needs the "Barrel Behind the Door" trap card, because with it, any effect damage you would take, your opponent would take instead.
that doesnt work with power bond, as powerbond damage doesnt start a chain, you cannot activate effects to it, like barrel or spell of pain. Prime material Dragon, being continous does work:D, Zane needs to go to pegasus and ask for a Cyber Material Dragon, a cyber version of prime material dragon:D
@@ElysiaWhitemoonOmegaThat ruling is such utter BS…
@@TheGreatSalsaMan there is alot of bullshit ruling in yugioh, the word one i encountered was in the old days with Machina Fortress (a lvl 7 machine that you can special summon from the hand or GY, by discarding 8 starts) , the ruling being you can discard itslef to summon itself. wich is stupid as you activate the effect in the hand, and when you discard itself, its no longer in the hand so the effect should stop, but some ruling was made for it that becaue it can also be summoned from the GY with that effect it still works.
@@TheGreatSalsaMan magic the gathering is more consistent in its rulingas far as i understand
@@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega machina fortress includes that it can summon from the hand OR GY so it makes sense it can be used and can still summon as long as it exists in one or the other.
Probably one of the best duels in the series. Me and my cyber dragon playing friend back in the day often had Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End facing off***
If your cyber end dragon lost you’re a disgrace to the cyber legacy
This duel kept me on the edge of my seat, not just because of Zane's condition, but the back and forth of the duelists involved.
Edo wil be my always favorite Gx character but every duel including Zane is heart pumping
Also,you gotta love how beautiful the background colors were. The purples and pinks of the sunset were clearly representing Zane's life slowly ending.
@@pizzalover4501 Agree. Aside from Jaden has to "defeat" Yubel, it's kind of a guarantee that Zane will not survive.
@@redwardranger7034 but Zane could’ve beat Jesse he would’ve freed Jesse but Jaden could still beat Yubel
@@Deathmare235 That's as clear as I can make it
@@redwardranger7034 no reason someone else couldn’t defeat Jesse especially since that’s what Zane wanted to do
Please do a Yugioh Trivia on the "Darkness" archetype, specifically the cards that Nightshroud/Darkness used in season 4 of GX.
Man what a fantastic analysis video. Love how this channel not only focus on the YGO card game, but also the anime and manga. Would love to see a video analysis of the Jesse/Yubel vs. Amon duel that directly followed the Zane duel. That one was pretty great as well.
The heart attacks were his cyber dark cards trying to kill him, and we know he's a master of drawing the right cards (one of the reasons he was chosen to wield cyber dragon deck), so I actually think he meant to draw limiter removal, but since he had that heart attack right before he drew, he got cybernetic zone instead, costing him the duel. That's what it always looked like to me.
Zane didn't die and we need to stop saying that he did. He's alive and well in literally the next season.
where did you get from that he could control what he draws?
@@sasir2013 it's stated in multiple Yu-Gi-Oh series that duelists can learn to control their draws. GX episode 17 Damon says one can learn to do so, and another GX episode implies that Shepard acknowledged Zane's ability to control his draws and then told him he was the heir of the cyber legacy. Arc-V literally lists "how to draw cards" in the school curriculum as part of a taught class. Kaiba stated that he learned the heart of the cards by watching Yugi and since then could always top deck what he needed.
@@adrianjude9041 Yeah, it has been said in yugioh series, but I don't remember anyone saying in the show that zane could do so. What did shepard say exactly?
@@sasir2013 There are two instances with Sheppard that heavily imply that zane can control his draws
The first one is Shepard's monologue in which he talks about having taught many students but none as talented as Zane, and that Zane was "his best". During the entire monologue, the only thing being shown is Zane practicing his draws with the other students.
The second is right after Shepard passes on the cyber dragon legacy to Zane, and Zane asks how to summon cyber end dragon (CED), in which Shepard replies that the card will tell him in due time. Zane is then shown in front of the mural of CED asking the duel spirit to tell him how to summon it, and he proceeds to practice his draws. During one of his drawing practice sessions, Zane is shown to finally speak with CED's spirit in the mural and it tells him how to summon it. Zane then tells this to Sheppard, who replies that he has finally bonded with his spirit, implying that one most be very good at drawing their cards (aka controlling their draw) in order to bond with this spirit.
The way I see it, why would the animators specifically focus on zane drawing cards throughout sheppard's monologue and then animate Zane practicing his draws again when learning to speak to his spirit and summon CED if he can't control his draws? That's literally the only thing we ever see of young zane training to be a duelist under sheppard. we never see him duel - just drawing cards.
I love this duel in the JP version. When Zane starts his volley of Fortress Dragon attacks, his Japanese VA absolutely tears the script up.
I recommend checking it out if you haven't, it'll give you goosebumps.
Zane: "Syrus, you aren't allowed to use power bond because you lost a duel due to using it wrong." 😠
Also Zane: *Loses his last duel due to power bond's effect *
To be fair, he was banking on power bond boosted CED swinging for game (not knowing yubel's facedown would counter that). But yea, even in OCG/TCG you don't go for a power bond unless you have a backup plan like 1 day of peace.
@@Legoluke197 If anything, you taught me that ODoP can actually negate power bond's selftk
DharcDaniel If the user wants to benefit from Power Bond damage of the end phase, they can use Rainbow Life. Whenever you would take damage, you will instead gain Life Points until the end phase. And yes Rainbow Life effect lasts until the very end of the end phase. So the Power Bond’ed Cyber End Dragon, instead of taking of 4000 damage at the end of your turn, you will gain 4000 life points.
Rainbow Life is a trap card, so traditionally you will have to set it and wait for it be your turn if you use it the way I do though. You also have to discard a card to activate it. But there are Cyber Dragon cards that have effects when they are in the Graveyard. Whenever I have the set up, I activate Rainbow Life on my Standby Phase. If they negate it, I know it would be too risky to play.
This was not Zane's last duel he duled Makou in season 4
@@Nameer401 In the original Japanese sub, Judai dies after fusing with Yubel, Zane dies from a heart condition in the final duel against Yubel, Joey dies against Marik just before beating him, and Pegasus dies after Bakura rips his millenium eye out. 4Kids obviously wouldn't put death in a "kids show", but technically this was supposed to be Zane's last duel canonically
It's hilarious how Yubel mocks Kaiser for summoning 0 attack points monsters thinking Kaiser was just misplaying...coming from the 0 attack point monster themselves
Peak clownery
Was O’Brien about to beat Jaden? And I say Jaden, no supreme king. You’re awesome and I love your videos.
I think they said he was in the show, I don’t remember for sure though.
Yeah he would have but didn’t because viper told him not to
You talking about when O’Brien held Syrus Hostage?
He would've defeated him.
Yes. He was able to.
I agree, they wanted to make zane loose.it would be limiter removal if it was zanes old duels where he wins by it at the end of duels. or it would be pot of greed or anything that would help him win. I think zane didnt use his deck as old days, he just summoned cyber end once. In the old days he would summon it many times until he wins :(( This duel was so much focused on showing zanes all cards like barrier dragon etc. Normally instead of showing those cards, they could show more useful cards and winning scenarios. But they had to make zane loose for the plot so they did.
By the way I liked the way u analyzed. U were so respectful and well talker while analysing instead of mocking etc like most reviewers.
It wouldn’t of been that bad to the plot Yubel is in her true form and Zane achieves his objective of freeing Jesse only difference is no Jaden vs Jesse but Jaden vs Yubel would even be more intense
In the early days he summoned cyber end dragon season 1 was the best Zane
@@Deathmare235 it would've made Jaden more depressed and throw the next duel just to punish himself, remember, he thought getting sent to the stars was dying, plus Zane heart attack would've made it worse
@@JadenFox9 he’d be impressed at Zane just like the old duel and with Jesse also being weak it leaves only Jaden though it would be interesting if they manage to fit a duel with Crowler and Syrus vs Yubel with Gecko coming in to save them
Truly the greatest moment in Zane's life. And since you talked about Yubel I hope you do a video on her and Jaden's final Duel in season 3, as that is also a personal favorite of mine right alongside Zane vs Yubel here.
Ironically, if Zane had played more cautiously he might have won.
What do I mean? Well, during the turn he summons Cyber Twin, if he had just stopped attacking once he realised Jessie/Yubel was dumping Crystal Beasts to the GY and just ended his turn, while maybe setting Cybernetic Hidden Technology face down just in case, he would have been in a MUCH stronger position.
As now Jessie/Yubel would have no choice but to set their one trap in hand and just end their turn. Sure, they could crash their Crystal Beasts on the field into his Cyber Dragons, but that would leave them with no defense except Rainbow Path which would only negate 1 attack. Delaying the summon of RDD and forcing them to either sit and wait for Zane to attack into them or wait to draw into RDD.
And since we know they won't draw into any field wipes or cards that would let them get over Zane's monster, the latter could reliably stall for *several* turns to get more resources and potentially win the Duel as once RDD *is* summoned, Zane would have way more options to deal with it.
Now, to be clear, I'm not saying Zane misplayed. He thought he had game with the plays he made that turn and since had had no way to know Rainbow Path was the card set, its completely fine.
But, yeah, if Zane hadn't extended like he did, he probably would have won.
Zane did a great job during this duel who almost won but was defeated by Jesse/Yubel.
For the next video for this series could you do: Was Dark Signer Kalin about to win against Yusei during the first time they dueled?
Yusei was definitely going to be defeated by Ccapac Apu during their first Duel, only surviving the Duel due to his Duel Runner malfunctioning.
I want to see that analysis just for the sake of seeing him review the duel. It's one of my favorites from 5ds.
Zane could’ve done a lot better I mean he lost to Jesse/Yubel
@@TheReaperofHades true
Still the most BS copout in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh. "Oh shit I am about to lose, D-Wheel go burrr!"
Like come the hell on. They just HAD to protect Yusei's record that hard?
Manga Zane would have clapped Yubel he’s so nuts. My favorite in the show and manga
Season 1 Zane as well hell he should’ve beat her it wasn’t even her true form so it fits with the plot
@@Deathmare235 the only reason Zane even lost is because the anime forced him to have a trashier version of Limiter Removal instead of the actual Limiter Removal. He lost because the plot needed him to lose. I know that’s easy to say all the time but the animators made it blatantly obvious that they needed to give him a bad card with almost no purpose in place of the card that would’ve actually made him win lol You know the animators were thinking “man, he really should have LR here…but screw it, Jaden needs to be the one to win”
@@Random1567 they still could’ve had him beat Jesse he would’ve completed all his objectives and the plot wouldn’t change except for no Jesse vs Jaden
@@Random1567 If it were me, I would have tacked on "draw a card" to the effect of Cybernetic Zone, and the last thing he draws is a Cyberdark card. It would have fed into the character arc of him leading himself astray and suffering consequences for it, as well as potentially tying into the theme next season with "the deck wants a new way to evolve".
@@christopherb501 Reminds me of Aporia trying to draw into Afterglow only to draw Meklord Emperor Granel, which leads to his defeat and death.
I have a few thing to say (by the way, i'm sorry if my english is not too good):
1- On the scenario when Zane set "Cybernetic Hidden Technology" on his first turn, if at the end he "crashes" his "Cyber End Dragon" with "Rainbow Dark Dragon", didn't that means that "Power Bond's" cost wouldn't apply? I'm saying this because, on his duel agains Camula (the vampire woman) he uses "De-Fusion" after summoning "Cyber End" with "Power Bond", wich saves him from the cost because "Cyber End" isn't on the fiel anymore.
2- This is more like a question than something to point. Without "Advanced Dark" on the field, wouldn't all the "Advanced Crystal Beasts" be destroyed? After all, when Jaden duels with Jesse/Yubel and uses "Storm Neos's" effect to destroy all the magic and trap cards on the field, "Advanced Drak" included, all the "Advanced Crystal Beasts" on the field are destroyed AND they aren't set on the magic/trap zone, wich implies that without the field spell, they can't be on the field. So, if Jesse/Yubel send it to the graveyard with "Counter Gem", wouldn't that means that he cannot have the "Advanced Crystal Beasts" on the field to boost "Rainbow Dark Dragon's" attack?
Sorry if i wrote too much (and if i have any ortographic mistakes) but i would like some answers to this if you don't mind.
1) cyber end dragon still returned to the field during the end phase so power bond cost will apply,
2)storm neos's effect destroys spells and traps and since crystal beasts and advanced crystal beasts are treated as continous spell so they are destroyed. And in monster zone they are destroyed too because advanced dark isn't on the field anymore.
The best duel in GX, in my opinion. They both have cool decks, the stakes are super high, and it ends with one of the most dramatic deaths in the show. Sucks they brought him back though. I love season 4, but Ryou/Zane should have stayed dead.
Scary how Zane says he has a lot more to go I saw him as the worst of the best but he could be the best of the best
I think it’s fine because everyone that “died” in the other world didn’t actually die, but we’re absorbed into some world by Yubel or whatever, which actually saves Ryou/Zane.
@@silverarch0633 He didn't come back at the same time as everyone else though. He came back later, for some reason.
@@seqka711 that’s true - there’s definitely an inconsistency there. I’m glad the writers brought him back even if it was poorly executed because his tie-in to Sho/Cyrus(?)’s arc in S4 was very good IMO.
@@silverarch0633 but you're forgetting that Kaiser didnt die because he lost the duel. He had a full on heart attack. That's more of a reason for his death than the duel loss, and by the way the show explained it I got the impression that everyone who lost the duel in the dark world got back, and since Kaiser died due to the heart attack it would make sense as to why he wasn't brought back
Bruh Zane Bricked hard with his opening hand like Wow
3 cyber dragons and barrier trap as the starting hand brooo
Bad rng lol
Meanwhile Yubel opens with the Field Spell required for Advanced Crystal Beasts to function at all. You can tell who the writers wanted to win.
@@MobiusLeader007 Imagine if Zane had MST, and just removed Advanced Dark in the first 3 turns or something. Biggest problem with all these crazy, 'unbeatable' anime decks/combos, they run singles of all their cards, and they all have big vulnerable lynchpins.
@@natesiress1057 Zane does actually have MST in his deck, he used it in his first ever duel against Jaden way back in Season 1, but never played it again
Technically if Advance Dark wasn't on the field then the Advanced Crystal Beasts in his S/T zone should be destroyed by their own effects.
They literally gave Advance Dark monsters the same weakness as Neos fusions. How can they do that twice lol
I'm very glad that there wasn't any huge misplays that could've won Zane the game if he avoided playing them. It makes it much more meaningful that he really was playing his absolute best and if he had just completely overlooked a winning strategy, it would've made that idea feel fake imo.
imagine instead of cybernetic zone he drew limiter removal or battle fusion lol
I think that's part of why Sora vs. Shun is so well-received, too--there aren't any significant misplays or alternative plays which could have resulted in a different outcome (barring the Action Cards), but rather it was apparently the only possible outcome. I probably try too hard to replicate that inevitability in my scripted duels.
Oh, yeah Zane. The guy that always draws 3 cyber dragons on his first turn.
Man, this duel was the pinncale of Yugioh GX. Nothing in this show ever came close to this. I get chills every time i watch this.
Regarding crystal gem. Why should it send the field spell if that is in the field zone. However counter gem notably also sends ITSELF to the grave otherwise there couldn't be 5 crystals, as traps are sent to the grave by game mechanics when the effect is fully resolved.
Master duel has me sounding like Yubel/Jesse on the regular
"No monsters! No spells or traps! No Defense! Even your hand is empty!"
Couldn't Zane have survived another turn...and probably won?
You mentioned how there was a sequence that would have lead to Rainbow Dragon only getting a boost to 8000 ATK. If Zane made CyberEnd Dragon crash into it, that would remove both monsters from the field. As far as I'm aware, Power Bond's anime detrimental effect doesn't apply if CyberEnd is off the field at the end of the Battle Phase (please see the duel with Camula).
It would then be Jesse's turn. With all his monsters in the grave, he'd need to draw something that would return them at least one of them to the field to go for game. If Jesse doesn't draw something to bring a monster back or defend himself, it passes to Zane's turn and he just needs to draw any of the monsters still in his deck or any of the cards he has to leverage his graveyard monsters, and he wins. Granted it's a gamble but the little I know of their decks makes me think the odds would be in Zane's favour (plot allowing of course) - note Yugi had much worse odds against Noah.
Wait I thought dark rainbow dragon’s effect can’t be used the turn it’s summoned so if Zane did activate the continuous trap when rainbow dragon attacked cyber barrier dragon couldn’t Zane just tribute a cyber dragon and destroy rainbow dragon since again rainbow dragon can’t use it’s effect the turn summon?
(Btw it probably just can’t active the effect that boosts its attack but I’m not sure)
Honestly I didn’t think about that, you could be right tbf
Probably just anime differences
@@TGSAnime I’m not completely sure about my observation either but regardless love these series of videos keep on with them cause they’re really enjoyable and fun to watch as a yugioh
@@Deathmare235 yeah idek know the ocg/tcg effect of dark rainbow dragon word for word so like I said it might just be it can’t boost it’s attack the turn it’s summoned but can still use it’s other effect
@@Deathmare235 the anime is as the one he mentioned, it cant activate like literally ANY of the effects the turn its Summoned, because it has only 2 activate effects and 1 summoning requirement.
Remember in the dark realm where Zane and Aster were just buddy copping around for awhile. I would watch a whole show of that lol
Lmao they were just hanging out in an abandoned mansion duelling random guys for a while until the plot eventually called them
Hell Kaiser and Shun Kurosaki, the coolest characters across Yu-Gi-Oh imo
Yes
I would've rather had Zane win this duel but still die in the end. Have his final moments redeeming himself for the dark path he chose by saving Jesse. It doesn't matter much that Yubel loses using the Crystal Beast deck since she only loses control of Jesse and immediately switches decks afterwards. The stakes don't really change.
No one can beat the big bad guy, but the protagonist
*Zane: Literally dying because of his poor heart*
The community: why are you throwing tho?
Awesome video and excellent analysis. @9:58, One small thing, as a Crystal Beast player, if Jessie had played Counter Gem, as you said to stop from being destroyed. He would have had 0 protection because at the end of the turn Counter Gem sends all Crystal Beast cards you control to the graveyard. So, therefore Zane would have won at the end of the duel because Rainbow Dark would have had nothing to boost its attack if we go by the real life effect.
But going off the anime, it would have sent that Rainbow Life that Jessie set to the graveyard via the requirements of Counter Gem. Meaning that Zane would have inflicted enough damage from Chimeratech Overload Dragon.
*Fun fact:* If Power Bond had retained its S1 effect for the entire show, changing only a single card is all that's needed for Zane to win:
Power Bond's anime effect pre-S2 only gibs if the monster is still on the field during the End Phase (see Camula vs Zane) and it only gibs the current controller of the monster rather than the activator of the card. So if, hypothetically speaking, Cybernetic Zone had been replaced with Creature Swap (which we know he had in his deck) and he'd used it rather than just attacking, Zane would have been able to burn Yubel-Possessed Jesse during his End Phase and win.
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Of course this could've also been avoided if they'd just let him use Limiter Removal instead of Cybernetic Zone during the Damage Step. 😂
Edit: Just made it to the end of the video where you've made the same Limiter Removal point 🙈
Yup, it’s sad they couldn’t keep consistent with power bond. The entire time that was how Zane was shown to avoid the damage, but here they finally use its real effect
I just checked and there’s different anime power bonds but I’m either blind or they’re both the exact same maybe they made a typo
@@Deathmare235 Yeah there are 2 distinct cards, since one is categorised as 'later anime' - its burn damage in S1 is based on the monster's presence on the field; in S2 & on it's based on the actual card being activated.
It technically doesn't matter because some weird animeruling in Cybernetic Zone made the monster keep the effect of Powerbond, meaning Zane gets selfburned either way.
@@lpfan4491 Not that I don't believe you, but do you have any reference to the weird anime ruling; if you're referring to the fact that Zane still lost after playing Cybernetic Zone, that's because the Power Bond's end-of-turn effect damage had already been changed to its current version, where activating it causes the self-gib during the End Phase regardless of where the monster summoned is. In S1, the monster leaving the field would basically 'remove' Power Bond's effects from the field, so Cybernetic Zone with S1 Power Bond would remove the burn damage (as far as I'm aware), which is why I'm interested to know what your statement is based on in case I simply haven't come across it.
I have been waiting for this!
Love your content, definitely the best yugi-tuber
honestly if zane had limiter removal instead of cybernetic zone, he very much would've won, but no because of stupid plot armor, he lost and it has to be jaden to defeat yubel
technical jaden never defeated yubel she's just that good
Facts..
@@thegreatscribbles960 at least he never lost
It wouldn’t of even mattered if Zane best Yubel Yubel still had her true firm which she could’ve used against Adrian but Zane still frees Jesse and dies not only with the best duel of his life but completing his other objective only loss was Jesse vs Jaden but it would be worth it
By the same logic yubel could have drawn in to some other specific card a d use it to win...
Zane was not gona win regardless
I have several objections! (Edgeworth Voice: Objection!)
1) Overload Fusion can only summon Dark Machihe Fusion, Cyber End Dragon is light, therefore is not eligible for Overload Fusion
2) the target for Power Bond must stay on the field (and not leave it) for Power Bond's drawback to kick in. Since Cyber End Dragon left the field from Cybernetic Zone's effect, Zane should not take damage from Power Bond's drawback and this leads to
3) sadly that is how it works with Cybernetic Zone & power bond in both the anime & Real Life. Cyber End Dragon in both anime & real life keeps its bonus power from Power Bond even if it leaves the field
Honestly I felt like they really nerfed zane so hard in this duel I mean last time we saw him face jesse he was dominating him so hard having all 3 of his ace monsters on turn 3 and here we see him face yubel the ultimate villain of season 03 yet he's not using the cards that he want through all that trouble of climbing an entire mountain just for him to lose because plot demands jaden vs yubel which is a huge letdown Imo
He prolly got bad rng lol
@@ImaPullThru can't really call it bad rng when he put a card like cybernetic zone in his deck tho
This duel was awesome. Two of my favorite GX characters battling it out in an epic final duel.
Yay my favorite RUclipsr
Ah ha, this is what I have been waiting for! Thank you so much TGS!❤️
The Japanese version of this duel was perfect. The emotions really hit home
I really wish TSG would make these videos using the japanese version. The dialogue is much, much better, and they actually show what each of the characters are thinking, which sometimes makes way more sense than in the dub.
@@Mekartur EXACTLY THIS!
I hate that 4kids stop the story when it's already getting GOOD FUCK 4KIDS!
@@Mekartur Never understood why he uses the shitty dub version and names. Well I guess I do get the names the algorithm
Zane could've won on his second turn. Instead of summoning Cyber Twin Dragon, he could fusion Summon Chimeratech Rampage Dragon using 2 + cyber dragon monsters. He could then destroy Advance Dark field spell, and Crystal Path using Chimeratech Rampage Dragons' effect. Then by sending 2 light machine type monsters from the deck to the graveyard it gains 2 additional attacks. At 2,100 ATK and with 3 attacks against the 3 crystal beasts, he would deal 2,800 DMG to Jessie/Yubel. Then Zane could activate Diffusion to send Rampage Dragon back to the extra deck to Summon 2 Cyber Dragons to attack directly with, winning the duel.
I expected as such. Still both characters put their all into it and the fact zane shook yubal is a whole other thing. I mean, how many characters could do that.
Like you said cybernetic zone isn't a very useful card unless for one turn defence. However there are plenty of cards in yugioh that force your oppent to attack forcing there monster to crash into it and even if you don't there cards like dimensional transporter to save your monster.
I’d love to see Jadens first match against aster Phoenix whether jaden could have won or was it really his destiny to lose
Oh my god I love this duel. GX was always one of my less liked seasons but any duel with Zane was a treat to watch...except for the disrespect from Aster. That final duel in season 3 was magificent and I always love to think about how Advanced Dark, a field spell specifcally made yes, to dump Crystal's into graveyard, but also be defensive as all hell with other defensive cards (Rainbow Bridge and Rainbow Life) debuted against an all attack style deck. Like they had to just throw the most defensive option possible to stop Zane, espically considering he almost won, twice during that duel and while yes Yubel came close to winning, it was only at the end.
Theory: I have a theory of why Zane didn't set his trap earlier and I'd say it's because of hand cards. On first turn the argument can be made since he didn't do much it wouldn't seem like a problem but on second turn it was his ONLY hand card, and as evidenced by Yubel's comment when Zane had nothing left, Zane knew he couldn't afford to let Yubel think something wasn't coming. Basically I'm saying he was using it as a bluff and didn't set it until he really needed to. Am I wrong, probably but still a thought.
Either way this duel is awesome and I will forever love how Zane willingly went down on his own turn instead of letting Yubel finish him off, and even scared Yubel too with revival of Cyber End Dragon. That is how you do a rival's final fight if they can't beat the main villian.
I wonder if Konami would ever do a Structure Deck for the Advanced Crystal Beasts Monster Cards Evil Jessie uses in the Yugioh GX Anime Series!
The just did the regular cards
Yes they dropped a Crystal Beast Structure Deck with the Advanced beast cards and Rainbow and Rainbow Dark Dragon
Would love an analysis of Yubel vs Adrian Gecko, that’s a duel I always enjoy watching
He needed to get Limiter Removal at the end and that would have been the perfect finish. But since he is not the main character, they needed to make him lose for the sake of plot..
You say that but Alexis in Season 1 won against the Shadow Rider version of Titan. It may or may not count depending on perspective but in Season 2 Jaden lost against Aster in their first duel. Jaden may be the main character, but he doesn’t always participate in the duels that drive the main plot along.
@@theomnigamer9177 Let's be real, though: Alexis was only allowed to have that win on Titan because Jaden had already beaten the guy before (after he kidnapped her, no less). And that was her *only* contribution to the Shadow Riders arc, too, even though her missing brother was also one of the Shadow Riders.
Man, Alexis got done so dirty by this show.
I wonder what duel is next. I can’t wait. Also you are my favorite yugioh RUclips channel . I watch all your videos. Thank you for your hard work. My fav videos is when you do these videos on if this character could have defeated this character
anyone knows the name of the music at the start of 1:08 been looking for it for years now
So here’s the funny moment of animation I was gonna mention.
It’s when Zane attacks with twin dragon, we cut to “Jesse” who uses his left arm to put the cards he’s holding into his right hand’s fingers, then that hand shifts the cards to the pinkie and ring finger, so he then uses his remaining fingers to pull out the entire deck, then he unfolds it with his left hand and pulls the crystal beast from the deck to negate the damage.
It’s such a crazy moment for me just thinking about the animation that they decided to do. Actually have some realism, only to then give it up when it came to unfolding the entire deck of cards like they were all stuck together.
I love Zane’s dub voice. 😇
If I’m not mistaken the crystal beast cards have a piece of the gem in the card witch is why they were so rare.
What's funny in the dub is Zane's LP raised for a bit when he took 3400 LP.
My favourite duel from all of Yugioh! I remember watching this growing up
We should NEVER FORGET YUBEL
13 years of waiting for Konami to show some llve for one of the best antagonists on Yugioh history
EDIT -
They did. They made her meta.
The hypothetical zane has a chance to win sence the anime version of power bond doesnt do the damage to you if the fusion made with power bond isn't on the field so if zane doesn't use cybernetic zone in the hypothetical rainbow dark and cyber end would be destroyed and then its up to what jesse/yubel draws
It’d have been much more fitting if Zane activated his Cybernetic Hidden Technology. He DOES win in a sense; he defeats Rainbow Dark Dragon. However, it costs him his Ace Monster and the duel in the process. The story would be better imo, even if the numbers were smaller.
In the anime, power bond only deals the damage to whoever's controls the fusion monster so if rainbow dark dragon crashes with it, then Zane would not take the damage since nobody controls it. 10:00 (so because of the rulings with that wording on the card, even if he dident crash, cyber end dragon was placed on the field with cybernetic zone, so since it wasent with power bond, he wouldent take the damage anyway because of how power bond works in the anime)
Zane could have won almost every duel but his heart stopping or the villans use their rules to win
You always have a Limiter Removal in a Machine deck. That's how I made my Machine deck back in the day. **goes back to rocking in the chair on the front porch**
The one thing I didn't like about the duel was Jesses duel disk it looks weird
Lol, I watched this duel literally a moment ago in a different page and this video came up in my recommended feed. You literally might have published it when I started watching the duel. I can't believe this coincidence XD
How about a duel analysis on Yubel vs. Adrian?
19:55 It should have been Limited Removal because that’s the same combo he used against Jaden in the graduation match. Then have some additional cheese where it’s too strong for Zane to control at that point and he collapses. Duel over.
That way it would have ended similarly to how Joey and Merrick dueled in Battle City Finals, where Joey collapsed before victory.
Zane was one of those characters who deserved a Seto Kaiba, Yugi Mutou or Joey Wheeler fight. A character as powerful as him only deserves to duel the best.
I would love to see one of these for Yuya vs Declan Round 1.
I know it was epic for Zane to use power bond as soon as he drew it, but he could’ve just switched all his cyber dragons to defence then just passed his turn. It’s the smartest thing to do but he would’ve never done it because he was playing all out.
Hang on, you said he has two options with Overload fusion: Cyber Dragon which is a light Monster and Chrimeratech which is dark but doesn't Overload fusion lock him into Dark fusion monsters?
Also doesn't Overload fusion already use monsters in the GY so wouldn't that make activating Overload Fusion unnecessary and a misplay?
Zane lost due to the script, if he would have gotten his usual limiter removal and not that bs card he would have won. Plus that seal of orichalcos jesse used it was ridiculous op, cancel everything + setting up your board + combo extender they really needed to make the best duelist on the show loose
Nicely explained mate!
The confusion comes from the following episode.
Zane loses due to power bond after rainbow dark dragon stops his attack. In the following episode, a flashback of the duel is cut in such a way that it looks like Zane was about to win.
No monsters, no spells, no traps, no hand, no bitches