Vasquez and Ripley are like the posterchildren for why it's funny when studios blame Films flopping on "Audiences not being ready for badass female characters."
I mean, that would be true if there were only 4 movies produced in the last 40 years. Name some successful "badass female" leads other than Ripley, Vasquez, and Sarah Connor. While studio buck-passing is a big problem, audience misogyny is not imaginary; look at the horrific abuse over Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel, etc., etc.
@@michaelccozens Ripley, Vasquez, and Sarah were ORIGINAL characters. Not remakes of a previously existing people. You asked for other examples. Loooong before the new marvel movies, Wonder Woman had a TV series in the 1970’s which was based on the comic book. It starred Lynda Carter. Talk to anyone who was raised in that generation, they were most likely fans of the show, or at least well aware of it. Then there was the TV series “The Bionic Woman”, also from the 1970’s. It was a spin off from the show “The Six Million Dollar Man”. So it wasn’t a remake since Jamie Sommers (played by Lindsay Wagner) was a completely separate character from Steve Austin. If I’m not mistaken, they had cross over episodes where they appeared in each other’s shows. They were the first human cyborgs. Though unlike the terminators, they were mostly human, with some bionic implants which enhances certain abilities such as strength, speed, hearing, etc. Xena Warrior Princess was from the mid 90’s. The name alone is badass. That girl could take on an army of men all by herself. 😁 Lara Croft (Tomb Raider), I believe came out in 2000. Kind of an “Indiana Jones” type of film, but again, she was her own unique character. Kill Bill (starring the legendary Uma) came out in like 2003. Pretty much a female killing machine out for revenge. I must say, as a woman who looooved the original Ghostbusters, I was extremely upset when they cast the new ones as women. Here’s why: when you are doing a remake of an iconic classic, try to keep it as true to the original as possible. Don’t use it as an opportunity to push an agenda and make it political (race, gender, etc). That’s why the new Ghostbusters flopped. Us fans were CLEARLY aware of why it was being done that way and THAT’S why we all rolled our eyes, sighed, and pretty much hated it. 🙄 We enjoy original characters and don’t like it when you mess with them. Create new ones, be original, and if they’re good, we don’t care what gender they are. We’ll just fall in love with the characters, period. I find it hilarious that people get upset when you don’t let them push their agendas on you and then accuse you of being awful for not accepting the agenda they push. Just laughable. 😆
@@nowthatisawesome5431 You literally have no example past 2003. Sit down. Audience misogyny is 100% a thing, and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. All you have to do is look at female characters that do nearly identical things to male characters to see it. When a female character does it, "mary sue" but when a male character does it, he's a total badass that definitely earned the moment.
Furiosa and the wives in Mad Max: Fury Road. Emily Blunt and Millicent Simmonds in A Quiet Place Parts I & II. Lupita Nyong’o in Us. Samara Weaving in Ready or Not. Toni Collette in Heredity. Sophie Thatcher in Prospect. Noomi Rapace in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo series. The examples of compelling female movie characters are countless. The reason they are compelling is because they are engaging as individuals first and foremost. To place an overemphasis on lead roles being female and offering little to no characterization is doing a disservice. That’s not being inclusive or showing representation. It’s pandering for the wrong reasons.
@@trhansen3244 Ya had to go there didn't ya? ...He's a *suit* who works for a mega-corporation. That's the GOP BRAND. Democrats would try to make him pay TAXES. He'd hate that more than losing the installation...
@@chrisleebowers Calling it insurrection doesn't mean it was insurrection. And how is that worse than the HUNDREDS of riots by liberals? They literally burned down a police station. They tried to burn down a federal building after locking people inside. Is that insurrection, too? And liberals took part in the Capitol riot, in case you missed it. Insurrection? Are you this stupid and gullible? Apparently so.
At the film's premiere, Paul Reiser's sister physically struck him because his character, Burke, was so contemptible. You know you played the villain right when your own family hit you 😊 Such a great movie!
the "Illegal alien" comment is an inside joke: The actress who plays Vasquez hadn't read the script when she showed up for her audition. Based on the title and the name of the character she thought it was about illegal aliens and talked passionately to a baffled James Cameron for several minutes on the subject. He told Bill Paxton (they were close friends) and Paxton threw it in as an improv.
@@johnrob3215 it was on the bts features for the Alien quadrology with the actress herself telling the story ...or don't believe it and piss off, either way
This movie remains GOLD. Sigourney is one of the original badass women of Sci-Fi. Her character is perfect. They show Ripley strong, they show her vulnerable, show her caring and tough show her pushing beyond her fear and trauma to rise to the task. Ripley is amazing.
Paul Reiser (Burke) brought his mom to the premier. She loudly CHEERED at her son's demise. When your mother celebrates your death, that's a good villain. My favorite line: "Hey Vasquez. You ever been mistaken for a man?" "No. Have you?" In the director's cut (which is even better) you see that Ripley had a daughter about Newt's age, who died before she came back. It makes the connection with Newt even stronger. You see how the aliens infected the colony. You also see what happens to Burke. Always get the director's cut of a James Cameron movie. Always. NO NEED TO WATCH THE OTHER ALIEN MOVIES! If you want closure: They get married, adopt Newt. Half Bishop becomes her adopted uncle, and they adopt Jonesy the cat. The end!
The third film wasn't that bad (though DEFINITELY weaker that the first two which are both masterpieces). My biggest gripe with it is the stupid special effects, more than the plot.
@@DeathToTheDictators - mostly agree; the first two are 9s or 9.5s, while #3 is, at best, a 6. The narrative was *not* done well - skipped around, almost incoherently - there were plot 'soft spots' that you have to watch the longer version to see explained. If the first two directors had co-directed #3, it *could've* been truly kick-a$$! There was *serious* potential there! A shame that the studio jerked-around with it's production so badly!
@@ephennell4ever Is there any reason to not watch the longer cut of Alien3 first? (And really the only reason to watch the short one at all is the alternate birth and fall scenes.) The theatrical film was butchered in editing and you can't really blame the director for that when his input was overridden.
Chekhov’s power loader: if you introduce a power loader in the second act of a story, you must have it reappear it later. I enjoy that most characters have redeeming moments. Hudson is panicky throughout most of the film, but at the end he stands his ground and goes out blazing. Bishop starts off looking sketchy, but he repeatedly saves the day. Lt Gorman starts off being too stuck up to eat with his subordinates, but he goes back to an injured Vasquez so that she won’t die alone.
The shotgun and flamers are ok, the issue is just that the pulse rifles and smart guns use armor piercing ammunition that could punch through the walls/ceiling and rupture cooling systems, but shotgun pellets wouldn't.
@@johnrob3215 LOL of course not, but shotgun shot has very little penetration ability, any sort of sturdy metal piping, or thick walls (even possibly sheet rock, depending on the shotgun) will stop them, except at very close range. Any round from an assault rifle (armor piercing or not), OTOH, will go right through a thin piece of metal with little difficulty.
@@HkFinn83 I guarantee you you are wrong. James Cameron has a degree in physics and his brother is a Navy Seal. He's obsessive about details and will usually start from as technically accurate as possible and then cheat one or two things if he has to. Things like getting the right dishware and eating utensils in Titanic, at considerable budgetary expense because he's just like that.
@@chrisleebowers wait his brother is a navy seal?! That changes everything. It must be written with the inane autism of an internet Star Wars fan then, thanks for informing me
@@pamnicklas5536 In fact it depended on the shot and the distance of the camera. Most of the shots were as you say - but sometimes when they only were going to have one portion of the Queen in the shot - then only that portion was filmed - for example - her readying her tail for a strike - they only needed the tail - so they only filmed the tail. Similarly when the Queen is right up against the cage trying to bite Ripley - you don't need much more of the puppet than the head and forelimbs - so that's all they filmed and animated. For the bit where the Forklift is about to drop the Alien queen into the airlock and the Queen instead grabs the suit and drags it in with her - that tipping over shot was actually a pair of smaller models. I'm not sure how small. They weren't tiny. But they were made to a size that was easy to work with - they only had to use those miniatures for the ONE SHOT - they MIGHT have used them in a couple of the quick shots looking down into the pit as Ripley is climbing away. But I'm unsure. Actually - come to think of it - the smaller model of the forklift suit WAS seen earlier in the film - when Ripley is proving she can drive one to Apone and Hicks, look behind her - there's a "forced perspective" back projection shot of the model used later in the film with a different "doll" in the pilot's seat walking behind her in the "distant" part of the hanger.
check out the BTS stuff on ALIENS on the quadrology disc set or there used to be a great doc just on ALIENS called "Superior Firepower" (or something close to that) that kicked around youtube for awhile. Fun fact (in some shots at least) the powerlifter/robo-forklift is actually essentially a big guy in a costume that Sigourney sort of stood on his feet and he helped her move the "suit" around. They want to go stop motion with the queen, but one side (Cameron I think) wasn't keen on it and they instead built a big ass animatronic puppet (Made by Stan Winston's studio, but I don't know if he personally did it)
Fun fact: This movie actually showed how intelligent the Aliens were and can be. The Warriors/Gatherers/Cannon Fodder we see most of are capable of problem solving and it shows when they go through the ceiling. The Queen herself showed that and more complex emotions and tactics. Reasoning, Anger, Vindictiveness.
In Xenomorph lore, it's highly inferred that they have at least some psychic ability and probably a hive-mind. That's why the drones have no eyes; they don't need them. The Xenomorph in Alien arguably displayed intelligence as well, in that it carefully picked-off the crew one by one, instead of simply attacking frontally.
@@michaelccozens I would say the Xenomorph in the original displayed way more intelligence than the ones in this movie. Like you said, it silently hunted and took out the crew one by one, it didn't run straight into gunfire by the dozens
@@michaelccozens he is great in Kominsky, I liked the scene where he is watching and talking about the movie Diner when he is in the actual scene being shown!
@@matthewfullerton1416 I like this more than terminator 2 I do like it but this is something I fell in love with not just because it's more action but continuing and ending ripleys story properly.
You might say that the aliens are the villains of the series, but you'd be wrong. They're just animals, a force of nature. The real villain of the series is the Weyland-Yutani corporation. WY is fully willing to sacrifice human lives to get their grubby hands on an alien specimen.
This is true, but the Xenomorphs aren't animals; they're intelligent. That's what makes them so dangerous. Imagine if ants could plan strategically; I'm not sure I'd put big money on our survival, outside our new insect overlords' sugar mines, anyway. Hail Ants!
Hi Jessa and Alex. I looked through the comments of this and the Alien reaction, and I noticed that no one had mentioned that the Xenomorph design (and a lot of the scenery) was concerted by H.R. Geiger. He was a surrealist artist that did a lot of "Biology melded with Technology". He also used a fair amount of anatomy when it came to his art. Also, as a side note as to why the Aliens seem so nightmarish; (Allegedly) Geiger suffered horrific night terrors, and kept a sketch book by his bed to capture his nightmares on paper. And (again, allegedly) the concept for the Xenomorph was one of his nightmares. This was a fantastic reaction. I think you two are hilarious and I love the work you do for these. Have a good one
No it hasn't been there years since they lost contact with the colony. The colony was established 3 years ago. Which is why the atmosphere is breathable now. They recently lost contact with it.
The power-loader exosuits were so convincing when this movie came out that the makers were contacted by actual construction and haulage firms asking where they could get one. Whole film's a masterpiece of practical effects.
There’s a director’s cut of this film that reveals Ripley had a daughter, and that her daughter passed away while she was drifting in space for 57 years. This is the explanation as to why Ripley was so good with Newt.
Here is a better explanation. Ripley is good with newt, because Ripley is a thoughtful person and is naturally good with kids. Hicks was also good with her, he does not have a child.
i like their reactions but sometimes they don't listen to the movie their watching. The whole reason BUrke showed up at her door is they just lost contact with LV-426.
3:53 I've always loved this board review scene with Ripley calling everyone stupid but watching Jessa and Alex calling out the lies and sexism as well is a fricking great! I loved it!!
@@johnrob3215@TR Hansen Do you two not realize that when the reactors say "Now little lady, don't get upset" and "Calm down. Smile more. You look great for 57 plus 30" that they're calling out the explicit sexism inherit in the scene? It's half of why no one ever listens to Ripley in the Alien movies.
@@corumhayes8178 So everytime someone is dismissive of Ripley it's due to sexism rather than the simpler excuses... like corporate greed, she's not a marine in a sea of soldiers or that she sounds bat shit crazy? How about Hicks that she established a mutual respect with almost immediately? Remember this? Hicks - ''I say we take off and nuke the facility from orbit. Only way to be sure.'' (Winks at ripley) You think it's all due to sexism because you ignore anything that doesn't feed your confirmation bias. It doesnt surprise you think that way when it's the only thing your prejudiced mind will let you remember. You're a product of this victim mentality culture where if you don't believe you're being abused you aren't trying hard enough.
@@johnrob3215 actually if you look at my original statement I talked specifically about the board review scene and the responses by Jessa and Alex which still amazes me that you apparently don't see it. Secondly I admit that I did expand my response to say that half the reason no one listens is because she's a woman and you're right there are those that do listen. That's my fault because there are those who do listen to her. It's only my own silliness for thinking someone in a comments section would realize that I was referring only to her detractors. I should have realized anyone who can't see the sexism presented. despite the ladies pointing it out, would have no way of understanding my point. You are technically correct which is the best kind of correct. Congratulations! You have won this debate! I hope you find happiness and fulfillment in this victory! YEAH!!! :)
Lt. Gorman isn't a fool, he's just new and inexperienced. Every military officer starts out as a rookie. Normally, the lower-ranking but more experienced Sgt. Apone would have been giving him advice, but he was killed early on. Also, there's a high likelihood the Company picked a guy who'd basically do whatever Burke told him. When it comes down to it, Gorman ran back with only a pistol to try and save Vasquez. He also steps back and basically lets Hicks and Ripley take over. We're meant to think that he might have been a decent officer if he'd had the chance to live and learn.
@@hadonhadon3920 It's not really a spoiler if it happens at the beginning of the movie, rather than the end. Like what happened at the beginning of Terminator: Dark Fate, this is a friendly warning more than a spoiler.
In the extended version we see Ripley's daughter in old age who has passed away while Ripley was returning in suspended animation so the loss of family and the connection to Newt is even stronger.
The extended version has even more family stuff in it that I always miss any time I'm stuck with the theatrical version. It shows that all the people on the colony are just settlers, not scientists or soldiers or company people or anything like that. Kids are shown running around everywhere getting into trouble. When Ripley and the others track down the colonists, we don't see them but there are a bunch of kids in there somewhere. And it's all Burke's fault. I'm sorry that the theatrical version is still around, actually. James Cameron's early director's cuts were always a significant step up for me. I really dig the sentinel gun sequence too. :)
The last time Sigourney saw her daughter, the daugther was 10 or 11, which makes her instant connection to Newt very understandable. Also of course, Newt is a badass 😁❤❤
"Airlock! Airlock! Airlock!" Will you settle for a small hallway? Good thing I knew Paul Reiser from "Mad About You" before I saw this. If I saw Aliens first, I never would have watched the other.
There was an episode of Mad About You where a character asks Reiser if he's ever seen Alien. He responds, quickly and defensively, "Only the first one."
I know that this was released over a year ago and you ladies won't see this, but my favorite reaction moment EVER is watching the two of you chanting "air lock! air lock!" you guys are my queens!!!
In the directors cut they show her that her daughter Amanda died at the age of 66while she was asleep for 57 years. So the mother daughter Dynamic with Newt has more impact knowing that.
Weyland yutani controlled pretty much everything on earth. So it was either work for them or be homeless. And as with the shotgun, that wouldnt damage anything, too thick. The EXPLOSIVE ammo however, would.
@@jessaandalexwatch if you like young Harrison Ford then I suggest you react to The Fugitive (1993). It also stars Tommy Lee Jones & it's based on an old 80s tv series. It's a pretty good thriller with some good tension & suspense.
I loved this, your reactions were brilliant, it really got you both tense and really invested, I only own the first two! they are the best of the series! You both be safe, hugs from Scotland :)
@@trhansen3244 I know right. Only bill Paxton's character made the illegal alien joke, and she made out that they all was r@cist because of it. But I suppose in this day and age, if one white guy does something wrong, then that makes all white guys evil. Notice how it was the caucasian girl who got offended. 🤦♂️ My mother is Lebanese and she laughs her @ss off at these people who get offended on behalf of minorities. 🤦♂️
Hudson was supposed to be basically a throwaway character. He was originally written as the coward of the group. And given basically no lines. HOWEVER!!!!!!! Bill Paxton didn't like this. And wanted more lines. So he started adlibing and wouldn't stop. But what he said was so good. That not only did they keep it (adding more of his adlibed lines back in, in the director cut.) He turned Hudson into one of the most beloved characters of the Franchise!!!!!!!!!! He wasn't a coward. He did need a bit of leadership. Nothing wrong with that. And he definitely didn't want to volunteer for ANYTHING. But that was due to him being only 2 Weeks until discharge.
Ripley HAD to go back with the intentions of seeing the Aliens wiped out; she had a personal grievance : She and Dallas, the Captain of the Nostromo in Alien, were romantically involved. It never said it in the films, but it did in the books...
She lost one person in particular. Her daughter. The extended version has a scene where shems told her daughter died of old age. It’s part of why she gets so attached to Newt. Sigourney was not too pleased about it being removed from the theatrical “They’re not gonna have her go back to her old ship are they?” The one she blew up? I don’t think so I would imagine the company scrubbed any evidence of the secret special order when the ship didn’t come back Yeah, the infestation was recent. There was actually a scene in the extended showing how it starts It’s just a regular colony, but they did have a science area. They were studying the facehuggers early into the infestation The shotgun doesn’t fire the same ammunition as the rifles No, he doesn’t know what that goop means. He’s never encountered any xenos. Paul Reiser played an asshole so well his own mom cheered for Burke’s death Why does everyone question checking the ceiling?! Are they supposed to wait until the xenos are right over them?! Let them fall RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM?! You probably don’t wanna watch 3
@@jessaandalexwatch I'm really glad you watched this version first. You should watch the special edition at some stage. Though the daughter stuff is in the special edition, it doesn't land a huge emotional punch because all we have is a picture of her. We don't spend any time with the daughter, so the connection is a little limited. I think Ripley's motherly instincts still works well in the theatrical version.
@@leebrandt8597 to appreciate her daughter you have to play Alien: Isolation. Brilliant game and you play Amanda Ripley, Ellen’s daughter, looking for answers about her mom’s disappearance. It takes place between Alien and Aliens.
Just a warning, don’t listen to these people suggesting Aliens 3. They just want to see you suffer, I guess. I saw it once, back when it was released, then mentally airlocked it. There are officially only 2 Alien films. 😉
Nice to see you gals together in frame. I enjoyed this movie better than the original (which is rare for sequels). Good acting, good effects, simple plot. Thanks for reacting!
You may be happy to know that there's a deleted scene that takes place at the end of the movie when Ripley is looking for Newt, where she runs across Burke after he's been cocooned by the Aliens. He begs Ripley to kill him, and she hands him a grenade and walks away.
wow thats news to me, I do think the scene of NEWT & family should have been included and more talk betw RIP and the docs before she decided to go back
Talking about Cameron...Hudson and Vasquez both appear in Titanic!.....Hudson as the salvage guy and Vasquez as an Irish mother with 2 kids. She also appears in Terminator 2 as the kids adoptive mother. And Hicks & Hudson appeared in the first Terminator film. Hudson as a punk when encountering the Termintor at the start of the film. And Hicks as Kyle Reese...one of the main charaters. :). Bishop also appeared in the first Terminator film as a cop in the police station.
2:55 The Further Adventures of Ripley begins.This is the theatrical version, which I saw in the ex-Cinerama theater that screened "2001: A Space Odyssey." The Colonial Marines think they are on a Bug Hunt. 9:30 I wondered how Ripley was able to "get close, quickly" to "Rebecca." A reviewer at the time said: "Sisterhood." I didn't buy that, and when I got a Special Edition Laserdisc (!) It was crystal clear that Ripley and Newt connect as mother and child. 12:07 The Marines are the Bugs! Carter Burke expects more from Ripley. The Alien swarm. Hudson is a Klingon warrior. Newt is taken. "Dwayne" and "Ellen." Flame, bullets and grenades, held together with duct tape.Queenie. Escape from the atmosphere. Battle on the "Sulaco." Queenie, can you scream in Space? Keep listening after the credits, Ripley's trip isn't over...yet.
It always amazes me when people state that the executives of the Weyland Company didn't believe Ripley because it was the same people who ordered Ash to bring back the specimen at the expense of the crew of the Nostromos. It was not the same people! These executives were not even born when the Nostromos incident happened. Now does the company, as a whole, have the same mindset? It's a very strong possibility but the current executives had no knowledge of what exactly happened 57 years ago. If they did then that would mean that there was a memo passed down from each executive to his or her successor about the order to have Ash bring back the alien at all cost. So over the last 57 years every CEO, CFO, Head Science Officer and etc. got a memo stating that the Ash, the artificial person, was ordered to sacrifice the crew of the Nostromos in order to secure the alien. Is that really believable? Again, Burke showed that there were people in the company that would sacrifice others for monetary gain but that does not mean that they knew of the previous order that was given to Ash 57 years before they were even born. This is how I see it. Whoever gave Ash his orders in Alien also was high enough in the Weyland/Yutani company to change the crew assignments because Dallas told Ripley that Ash was a last minute replacement. Now during the Nostromos incident Ash could have sent back preliminary reports about his progress in studying the alien but there was no reason to mention that he was preventing the crew from defending themselves because that could lead to a paper trail implicating the company in murder. Now Van Leuwen admitted that the life boat records showed that Ripley's crew landed on LV426 so Burke had access to the coordinates, within a mile, of the alien ship. The fact that the colony was so close to the alien ship leads me to believe that some data was sent back by Ash or it was the biggest coincident in thw world considering how massive a planet has to be to hold an atmosphere. Obviously Hadley's Hope was close enough that Newt's family was able to return to the colony before the creature exploded out of the father. But again, this is just a few W/Y execs who probably didn't know the extent of the creature's danger and figured that anything that happened could be dealt with by the colony. Side note: the time it took to travel to LV426 presently was shorter than for the Nostromos because the advances in space travel during those 57 years (10 months vs 17 days).
The donut was fresh as they only just lost contact with the colony. Casting Paul Reiser as Burke was great, because he generally plays nice guys, so you expect that and get this.
You all did good to get thru this movie.......great reactions! For another alienish movie, suggest watching "The Thing" -1982 film starring Kurt Russell. This time the aliens come to earth.
The colonists were scientists, but they were set down there without knowledge of the xenomorphs. The ones they had in jars were presumably ones they had managed to capture or extract (after having suffered untold losses) likely in an attempt to figure out as much as they could about what they were up against before it was Too Late. By the time Ripley and the space marines arrive, it was Too Late.
please, don't spoil the good memories and good feelings that these two movies gave you by watching the other movies after these, if you want just watch the 2004 movie "alien vs predator", which is not bad at all, the other movies either are garbage (in part or in whole), or simply ruin what was done with the first 2.
Actually there was a deleted scene where Burke was found cocooned to a wall later on and begged Ripley for help. She hands him a grenade and walks off. But it was removed mostly for continuity reasons. A face hugger would have still been attached within the timespan between Burke getting captured and Ripley coming across him so it was cut. I also think it was cut because Vasquez and Gorman did the suicide by grenade thing already and it would have been repetitive within the film.
In the director's cut there is scene where we discover Ripley had a daughter who grew old and died while she was drifting through space. It adds an additional dimension to her relationship with Newt because its a second chance for her to be a mother.
Some of the most despised film villains you desperately want to die: Burke in Aliens, Percy in Green Mile, Bricktop in Snatch, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in Dune, Calvin Candie in Django, most of the town in High Plains Drifter, Buck in Kill Bill, Nurse Ratchett in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, the killer in Citizen X. There’s a lot more but those first came to mind.
This made me reflect on that time that Batman fought Aliens. Or the time that Superman fought Aliens. Or the time Judge Dredd fought Aliens. And then I remembered that Dark Horse Comics, who currently owns the rights to Aliens, was recently acquired by Marvel that in turn is owned by Disney. Does that make the Alien Queen a Disney Princess?
@@trhansen3244 I don't think that Alien3 is a waste of time at all, I like the longer cut (The Assembly) and I find it underrated. It's truly interesting as a hard horror drama and deals with very mature and transcendental issues. It's the final chapter in Ripley's story with the alien, Sigourney is amazing again and Charles S Dutton, Charles Dance and Ralph Brown are also great in their respective roles. Elliot Goldenthal music is unbelievable moving (and creepy) as well, so yeah, I recommend it. Call me crazy 😅
@@carlosvega5699 Totally - Alien 3 is flawed, but is such an interesting, thematically dense movie. I have never understood why people have such a downer on it.
@@carlosvega5699 The thing is - absent the OTHER two films - Alien3 would've been a good film. It succeeds as a film in fact - but it FAILS as a sequel. Basically it's "The Last Jedi" of it's time. The director was just like Ruin Johnson in his arrogance and dismissiveness of continuity of the other two films. As Ruin "did his own thing" for The Last Jedi - so too did David Fincher decide he was going to go off in a different direction for Alien3 because HE'S SPECIAL. *Sigh* Thing is - Ruin Johnson and Davey Fincher actually reportedly did and do make good films on their own. They are just THE WRONG people to bring into an existing continuity of films.
@@logandarklighter I don't think that Alien3 fails as a sequel. I understand why you and a lot of people can't accept what happen to the characters in the movie (I don't want to put spoilers) but those choices don't make the movie necessarily bad. And Fincher didn't ruin anything, his filmmaking is outstanding and not all of what you see in the movie in terms of story was his decision. Alien3 had a very troubled production and the script was constantly changing. Making that movie was a miserable experience for Fincher and for a lot of people, but the movie ended up being great, unique and coherent with itself. Then the studio butchered the movie again and what they released in cinemas back then was a shorter cut that ruined the pacing, the characters and all the meaning behind the words and actions of those characters. Luckily enough, The Assembly Cut exists and it serves as a proof of the talent of Fincher and the cast and crew. It's a flawed movie, but not a bad one.
In the extended cut we find out Ripley had a daughter that died of old age a couple years before she was found in the escape pod. She was protective of newt because she reminded her of the daughter and didn’t want to lose another girl.
If you like the design of the Engineer's vessel and the Xenomorph hive, check out H.R. Giger's "Biomechanics" series; it served as the inspiration for much of the design of the Alien universe. Warning; it gets weird real fast. Also, the reason Hicks' shotgun isn't an issue when the other weapons are is that the smart-guns and rifles fire armor-piercing rounds, which would destroy the nuke plant's heat exchangers. A shotgun doesn't have that kind of armor penetration. Final note: "Get away from her" gets all the attention, but I think the emotional crux of the scene is Ripley's repeated taunts of "Come on!" to the Queen. She's done, and almost angry that the creature that has dominated so much of her life through fear isn't giving a better account of itself. The only thing worse than encountering something you fear is realizing you never needed to fear it at all. In any case, Ripley has decided that someone's dying today, and invited the Queen to come find out who.
Fun fact. During filming the 'Aliens' were running around the sets with only the top part of their costumes in shot. Below that they were wearing shorts and training shoes (sneakers). Useful to remember if the films scare you. And for our next traumatised review ...........!
That's because Ripley, Hicks and Newt all went back to Earth and became a family unit with a two bedroom house and a dog and lived the rest of their lives in peace. And that's the reality I choose...
The colonists were actually colonists, not scientists experimenting on the Aliens. The colony had been there for 20 years before Ripley's escape pod was found and because Ripley blew the Nostromo up, the company didn't know about the ship with the Alien eggs. After Ripley tells the company about the Aliens, Burke sends the colonists a message requesting they investigate the position where the crashed ship is. A colonist family drives there and the father gets face-hugged (this is in the director's cut). The colonists try to remove the facehugger and in doing so accidentally kill the father (this is not seen but explained in dialogue) They presumably also try to find out what's going on and bring back more eggs. That's why there are both dead and living facehuggers in those containers in the med-lab. Overall the Director's Cut does a much better job explaining what happened on the planet and there are also important scenes for character development and a cool extra scene with the sentry guns. I'll never understand why people recommend the Theatrical Cut, the pacing isn't really better and certainly not worth losing the extra content.
I watched Dirty Dancing recently and I was truly shocked at how bad the acting in the film is. The music is fine, the dancing is fine, the acting is mostly abysmal. Don't throw any sharp objects at me just for expressing my opinion.
Vasquez and Ripley are like the posterchildren for why it's funny when studios blame Films flopping on "Audiences not being ready for badass female characters."
I mean, that would be true if there were only 4 movies produced in the last 40 years. Name some successful "badass female" leads other than Ripley, Vasquez, and Sarah Connor. While studio buck-passing is a big problem, audience misogyny is not imaginary; look at the horrific abuse over Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel, etc., etc.
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Ripley, Vasquez, and Sarah were ORIGINAL characters. Not remakes of a previously existing people.
You asked for other examples.
Loooong before the new marvel movies, Wonder Woman had a TV series in the 1970’s which was based on the comic book. It starred Lynda Carter. Talk to anyone who was raised in that generation, they were most likely fans of the show, or at least well aware of it.
Then there was the TV series “The Bionic Woman”, also from the 1970’s. It was a spin off from the show “The Six Million Dollar Man”. So it wasn’t a remake since Jamie Sommers (played by Lindsay Wagner) was a completely separate character from Steve Austin.
If I’m not mistaken, they had cross over episodes where they appeared in each other’s shows. They were the first human cyborgs. Though unlike the terminators, they were mostly human, with some bionic implants which enhances certain abilities such as strength, speed, hearing, etc.
Xena Warrior Princess was from the mid 90’s. The name alone is badass. That girl could take on an army of men all by herself. 😁
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider), I believe came out in 2000. Kind of an “Indiana Jones” type of film, but again, she was her own unique character.
Kill Bill (starring the legendary Uma) came out in like 2003. Pretty much a female killing machine out for revenge.
I must say, as a woman who looooved the original Ghostbusters, I was extremely upset when they cast the new ones as women. Here’s why: when you are doing a remake of an iconic classic, try to keep it as true to the original as possible. Don’t use it as an opportunity to push an agenda and make it political (race, gender, etc). That’s why the new Ghostbusters flopped. Us fans were CLEARLY aware of why it was being done that way and THAT’S why we all rolled our eyes, sighed, and pretty much hated it. 🙄
We enjoy original characters and don’t like it when you mess with them. Create new ones, be original, and if they’re good, we don’t care what gender they are. We’ll just fall in love with the characters, period.
I find it hilarious that people get upset when you don’t let them push their agendas on you and then accuse you of being awful for not accepting the agenda they push. Just laughable. 😆
@@nowthatisawesome5431 You literally have no example past 2003. Sit down. Audience misogyny is 100% a thing, and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. All you have to do is look at female characters that do nearly identical things to male characters to see it. When a female character does it, "mary sue" but when a male character does it, he's a total badass that definitely earned the moment.
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You’re hilarious! 🤣
Furiosa and the wives in Mad Max: Fury Road.
Emily Blunt and Millicent Simmonds in A Quiet Place Parts I & II.
Lupita Nyong’o in Us.
Samara Weaving in Ready or Not.
Toni Collette in Heredity.
Sophie Thatcher in Prospect.
Noomi Rapace in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo series.
The examples of compelling female movie characters are countless. The reason they are compelling is because they are engaging as individuals first and foremost. To place an overemphasis on lead roles being female and offering little to no characterization is doing a disservice. That’s not being inclusive or showing representation. It’s pandering for the wrong reasons.
Burke is truly one of THE most despicable villains ever put to film. Apparently even the actor's mom cheered when his character died. :)
Agreed. Clearly, Burke was a Democrat.
@@trhansen3244 Ya had to go there didn't ya?
...He's a *suit* who works for a mega-corporation. That's the GOP BRAND. Democrats would try to make him pay TAXES. He'd hate that more than losing the installation...
@@chrisleebowers I had to go there. Any time I see evil, I think of liberals.
@@trhansen3244 Of course that's what you think. That's why you have no idea you're the bad guy when you throw an insurrection at the Capitol.
@@chrisleebowers Calling it insurrection doesn't mean it was insurrection. And how is that worse than the HUNDREDS of riots by liberals? They literally burned down a police station. They tried to burn down a federal building after locking people inside. Is that insurrection, too? And liberals took part in the Capitol riot, in case you missed it. Insurrection? Are you this stupid and gullible? Apparently so.
"Boy.....she is fertile!" might be the funniest comment I've ever heard with regards to the Queen's reveal.
Seconded. 😂
The, “Mommy!” gets me every time. 😭
After watching this movie over and over, still gets me too!
At the film's premiere, Paul Reiser's sister physically struck him because his character, Burke, was so contemptible. You know you played the villain right when your own family hit you 😊 Such a great movie!
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his mother was there too, and she cheered when Burke died
@@jessaandalexwatch Fun fact... the actress who plays Newt is in her mid 40s.... showing time really does fly by if you`re not watching...
An Old Hollywood Tale.
@@kingscorpion7346 more BS
In the Director's Cut, Ripley learns that while she was floating in space, back on Earth, her daughter grew up and died a senior citizen.
We also get the backstory for Newt and her family, which would have clarified the “colonist” angle for you, which you seemed to misunderstand.
the "Illegal alien" comment is an inside joke: The actress who plays Vasquez hadn't read the script when she showed up for her audition. Based on the title and the name of the character she thought it was about illegal aliens and talked passionately to a baffled James Cameron for several minutes on the subject. He told Bill Paxton (they were close friends) and Paxton threw it in as an improv.
Ha!! That’s incredible. 😂
Still, we all know that the term 'illegal alien' is racist and must be banned. Or else!
This reeks of hollywood or fan made bullshit.
@@johnrob3215 it was on the bts features for the Alien quadrology with the actress herself telling the story ...or don't believe it and piss off, either way
@@johnrob3215 yeh that sounds like total BS. A jobbing actor who auditions for James Cameron and hasn’t heard of Alien?
This movie remains GOLD. Sigourney is one of the original badass women of Sci-Fi. Her character is perfect. They show Ripley strong, they show her vulnerable, show her caring and tough show her pushing beyond her fear and trauma to rise to the task. Ripley is amazing.
There are no strong female character before 2016. The "progressives" told me so.
@@dirus3142 What progressives are you talking about? You probably don’t even know any.
Paul Reiser (Burke) brought his mom to the premier. She loudly CHEERED at her son's demise. When your mother celebrates your death, that's a good villain.
My favorite line: "Hey Vasquez. You ever been mistaken for a man?" "No. Have you?"
In the director's cut (which is even better) you see that Ripley had a daughter about Newt's age, who died before she came back. It makes the connection with Newt even stronger. You see how the aliens infected the colony. You also see what happens to Burke. Always get the director's cut of a James Cameron movie. Always.
NO NEED TO WATCH THE OTHER ALIEN MOVIES! If you want closure: They get married, adopt Newt. Half Bishop becomes her adopted uncle, and they adopt Jonesy the cat. The end!
😂😂😂 Ok, thanks. I think we’ll stay happy with that ending!
I don't know if the director's cut of T2 is better. This one and Abyss, yes.
The third film wasn't that bad (though DEFINITELY weaker that the first two which are both masterpieces). My biggest gripe with it is the stupid special effects, more than the plot.
@@DeathToTheDictators - mostly agree; the first two are 9s or 9.5s, while #3 is, at best, a 6. The narrative was *not* done well - skipped around, almost incoherently - there were plot 'soft spots' that you have to watch the longer version to see explained. If the first two directors had co-directed #3, it *could've* been truly kick-a$$! There was *serious* potential there! A shame that the studio jerked-around with it's production so badly!
@@ephennell4ever Is there any reason to not watch the longer cut of Alien3 first? (And really the only reason to watch the short one at all is the alternate birth and fall scenes.) The theatrical film was butchered in editing and you can't really blame the director for that when his input was overridden.
It's a testament to how fantastic Paul Reiser is that Burke remains one of my top 3 most hated characters to this day.
I expect Burke was just following company orders the same as Ash did in the first film.
Chekhov’s power loader: if you introduce a power loader in the second act of a story, you must have it reappear it later. I enjoy that most characters have redeeming moments. Hudson is panicky throughout most of the film, but at the end he stands his ground and goes out blazing. Bishop starts off looking sketchy, but he repeatedly saves the day. Lt Gorman starts off being too stuck up to eat with his subordinates, but he goes back to an injured Vasquez so that she won’t die alone.
The shotgun and flamers are ok, the issue is just that the pulse rifles and smart guns use armor piercing ammunition that could punch through the walls/ceiling and rupture cooling systems, but shotgun pellets wouldn't.
I guarantee none of the writers gave this kind of thing a seconds thought
Are you claiming that the heat exchanger is armored?
@@johnrob3215 LOL of course not, but shotgun shot has very little penetration ability, any sort of sturdy metal piping, or thick walls (even possibly sheet rock, depending on the shotgun) will stop them, except at very close range. Any round from an assault rifle (armor piercing or not), OTOH, will go right through a thin piece of metal with little difficulty.
@@HkFinn83 I guarantee you you are wrong. James Cameron has a degree in physics and his brother is a Navy Seal. He's obsessive about details and will usually start from as technically accurate as possible and then cheat one or two things if he has to. Things like getting the right dishware and eating utensils in Titanic, at considerable budgetary expense because he's just like that.
@@chrisleebowers wait his brother is a navy seal?! That changes everything. It must be written with the inane autism of an internet Star Wars fan then, thanks for informing me
I'd love to know how they filmed the final brawl with the queen. The amount of puppetry or animatronic or whatever is staggering to think about.
The queen was a humongous puppet...it took up to 10 puppeteers to make her fully mobile. Movie making at its best!! RIP Stan Winston 💓
@@pamnicklas5536 In fact it depended on the shot and the distance of the camera. Most of the shots were as you say - but sometimes when they only were going to have one portion of the Queen in the shot - then only that portion was filmed - for example - her readying her tail for a strike - they only needed the tail - so they only filmed the tail. Similarly when the Queen is right up against the cage trying to bite Ripley - you don't need much more of the puppet than the head and forelimbs - so that's all they filmed and animated.
For the bit where the Forklift is about to drop the Alien queen into the airlock and the Queen instead grabs the suit and drags it in with her - that tipping over shot was actually a pair of smaller models. I'm not sure how small. They weren't tiny. But they were made to a size that was easy to work with - they only had to use those miniatures for the ONE SHOT - they MIGHT have used them in a couple of the quick shots looking down into the pit as Ripley is climbing away. But I'm unsure.
Actually - come to think of it - the smaller model of the forklift suit WAS seen earlier in the film - when Ripley is proving she can drive one to Apone and Hicks, look behind her - there's a "forced perspective" back projection shot of the model used later in the film with a different "doll" in the pilot's seat walking behind her in the "distant" part of the hanger.
@@logandarklighter It's the same doll, but they painted a beard on the doll Ripley for the background of the earlier demo shot. :)
check out the BTS stuff on ALIENS on the quadrology disc set or there used to be a great doc just on ALIENS called "Superior Firepower" (or something close to that) that kicked around youtube for awhile. Fun fact (in some shots at least) the powerlifter/robo-forklift is actually essentially a big guy in a costume that Sigourney sort of stood on his feet and he helped her move the "suit" around. They want to go stop motion with the queen, but one side (Cameron I think) wasn't keen on it and they instead built a big ass animatronic puppet (Made by Stan Winston's studio, but I don't know if he personally did it)
People thought the loader was real and the studio got inquires from industrial corporations about where they could get one.
Fun fact: This movie actually showed how intelligent the Aliens were and can be. The Warriors/Gatherers/Cannon Fodder we see most of are capable of problem solving and it shows when they go through the ceiling.
The Queen herself showed that and more complex emotions and tactics. Reasoning, Anger, Vindictiveness.
In Xenomorph lore, it's highly inferred that they have at least some psychic ability and probably a hive-mind. That's why the drones have no eyes; they don't need them.
The Xenomorph in Alien arguably displayed intelligence as well, in that it carefully picked-off the crew one by one, instead of simply attacking frontally.
@@michaelccozens True!
@@michaelccozens I would say the Xenomorph in the original displayed way more intelligence than the ones in this movie. Like you said, it silently hunted and took out the crew one by one, it didn't run straight into gunfire by the dozens
Burke is slimy, but don't take it out on Paul Reiser. He's a really funny stand-up comic.
And in the Mad about you sitcom, BUT recently most famous in Season 2 of Stranger Things as the Lab Doc.
@@Certifiable Check him out in The Kominsky Method, too.
@@michaelccozens he is great in Kominsky, I liked the scene where he is watching and talking about the movie Diner when he is in the actual scene being shown!
He was in a Die Hard type movie called The Tower I think. He is really good in that type of role.
My Two Days (old sitcom) and 2 of the Beverly Hills Cop films.
The best Sci-fi Action movie ever made!!
Woah woah woah. Terminator 2?
Predator has entered the chat.
@@matthewfullerton1416 I like this more than terminator 2 I do like it but this is something I fell in love with not just because it's more action but continuing and ending ripleys story properly.
@@matthewfullerton1416 people have different opinions.
I love predator and terminator/T2 but aliens is my fave of all time
At its heart, Aliens is about effective therapy.
Huh?
You might say that the aliens are the villains of the series, but you'd be wrong. They're just animals, a force of nature. The real villain of the series is the Weyland-Yutani corporation. WY is fully willing to sacrifice human lives to get their grubby hands on an alien specimen.
"I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage." Ellen Ripley
This is true, but the Xenomorphs aren't animals; they're intelligent. That's what makes them so dangerous. Imagine if ants could plan strategically; I'm not sure I'd put big money on our survival, outside our new insect overlords' sugar mines, anyway. Hail Ants!
It's just like Mando, except this time Michael Biehn isn't faking being an ally! :)
Hi Jessa and Alex. I looked through the comments of this and the Alien reaction, and I noticed that no one had mentioned that the Xenomorph design (and a lot of the scenery) was concerted by H.R. Geiger. He was a surrealist artist that did a lot of "Biology melded with Technology". He also used a fair amount of anatomy when it came to his art.
Also, as a side note as to why the Aliens seem so nightmarish; (Allegedly) Geiger suffered horrific night terrors, and kept a sketch book by his bed to capture his nightmares on paper. And (again, allegedly) the concept for the Xenomorph was one of his nightmares.
This was a fantastic reaction. I think you two are hilarious and I love the work you do for these. Have a good one
No it hasn't been there years since they lost contact with the colony. The colony was established 3 years ago. Which is why the atmosphere is breathable now. They recently lost contact with it.
The power-loader exosuits were so convincing when this movie came out that the makers were contacted by actual construction and haulage firms asking where they could get one. Whole film's a masterpiece of practical effects.
Now they can. People are using exosuits in some jobs requiring heavy lifting.
@@dirus3142 Yeah, the HAL suit prototypes were awesome way back when they debuted - now shit's absolutely incredible.
“Hiiiiiii so nice to meet you”
I can no longer unhear that voice as the voice of Queen Xenomorph
Good video J n A, BTW, when you get to "Alien 3" PLEASE make sure to watch the Assembly Cut/version that lasts about two and a half hours long.
There’s a director’s cut of this film that reveals Ripley had a daughter, and that her daughter passed away while she was drifting in space for 57 years. This is the explanation as to why Ripley was so good with Newt.
If they watch utara.they need to play game alien isolation
Wel the company SAID that Amanda passed away….
Here is a better explanation. Ripley is good with newt, because Ripley is a thoughtful person and is naturally good with kids.
Hicks was also good with her, he does not have a child.
"Airlock Party!" ROFLMAO You would LOVE The Expanse, it's wall to wall airlock party action.
Ladies, they said there were"colonists" there for 20 years with no reports of aliens.
i like their reactions but sometimes they don't listen to the movie their watching. The whole reason BUrke showed up at her door is they just lost contact with LV-426.
@@jonesey251 I hear you& agree. If you're watching something you've never seen why talk over it?
@@claudettesmith8328 Your point is fair, but it's a weakness of the format. Not much of a first-time reaction if they're just sitting in silence.
3:53 I've always loved this board review scene with Ripley calling everyone stupid but watching Jessa and Alex calling out the lies and sexism as well is a fricking great! I loved it!!
Sexism? What sexism?
Ya, what sexism?
@@johnrob3215@TR Hansen Do you two not realize that when the reactors say "Now little lady, don't get upset" and "Calm down. Smile more. You look great for 57 plus 30" that they're calling out the explicit sexism inherit in the scene? It's half of why no one ever listens to Ripley in the Alien movies.
@@corumhayes8178 So everytime someone is dismissive of Ripley it's due to sexism rather than the simpler excuses... like corporate greed, she's not a marine in a sea of soldiers or that she sounds bat shit crazy? How about Hicks that she established a mutual respect with almost immediately? Remember this? Hicks - ''I say we take off and nuke the facility from orbit. Only way to be sure.'' (Winks at ripley) You think it's all due to sexism because you ignore anything that doesn't feed your confirmation bias. It doesnt surprise you think that way when it's the only thing your prejudiced mind will let you remember. You're a product of this victim mentality culture where if you don't believe you're being abused you aren't trying hard enough.
@@johnrob3215 actually if you look at my original statement I talked specifically about the board review scene and the responses by Jessa and Alex which still amazes me that you apparently don't see it. Secondly I admit that I did expand my response to say that half the reason no one listens is because she's a woman and you're right there are those that do listen. That's my fault because there are those who do listen to her. It's only my own silliness for thinking someone in a comments section would realize that I was referring only to her detractors. I should have realized anyone who can't see the sexism presented. despite the ladies pointing it out, would have no way of understanding my point. You are technically correct which is the best kind of correct. Congratulations! You have won this debate! I hope you find happiness and fulfillment in this victory! YEAH!!! :)
Lt. Gorman isn't a fool, he's just new and inexperienced. Every military officer starts out as a rookie. Normally, the lower-ranking but more experienced Sgt. Apone would have been giving him advice, but he was killed early on. Also, there's a high likelihood the Company picked a guy who'd basically do whatever Burke told him.
When it comes down to it, Gorman ran back with only a pistol to try and save Vasquez. He also steps back and basically lets Hicks and Ripley take over. We're meant to think that he might have been a decent officer if he'd had the chance to live and learn.
"If Newt dies I don't think i can handle it"
David Fincher: *evil laugh*
@@hadonhadon3920 It's not really a spoiler if it happens at the beginning of the movie, rather than the end. Like what happened at the beginning of Terminator: Dark Fate, this is a friendly warning more than a spoiler.
In the extended version we see Ripley's daughter in old age who has passed away while Ripley was returning in suspended animation so the loss of family and the connection to Newt is even stronger.
Funny thing - the picture they used for Ripley's daughter was of Sigourney Weaver's actual mom for the family resemblance.
The extended version has even more family stuff in it that I always miss any time I'm stuck with the theatrical version. It shows that all the people on the colony are just settlers, not scientists or soldiers or company people or anything like that. Kids are shown running around everywhere getting into trouble. When Ripley and the others track down the colonists, we don't see them but there are a bunch of kids in there somewhere. And it's all Burke's fault.
I'm sorry that the theatrical version is still around, actually. James Cameron's early director's cuts were always a significant step up for me. I really dig the sentinel gun sequence too. :)
Ripley's daughter didn't die of old age, it's only been 57 years. Ripley's daughter dies at age 66 from cancer.
@@WedgeOfSpite or so the company claimed…
The last time Sigourney saw her daughter, the daugther was 10 or 11, which makes her instant connection to Newt very understandable. Also of course, Newt is a badass 😁❤❤
"Airlock! Airlock! Airlock!" Will you settle for a small hallway?
Good thing I knew Paul Reiser from "Mad About You" before I saw this. If I saw Aliens first, I never would have watched the other.
There was an episode of Mad About You where a character asks Reiser if he's ever seen Alien. He responds, quickly and defensively, "Only the first one."
My favouite fact about this movie: the MAD magazine parody drew Hudson as a chicken.
i had that one
I know that this was released over a year ago and you ladies won't see this, but my favorite reaction moment EVER is watching the two of you chanting "air lock! air lock!" you guys are my queens!!!
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In the directors cut they show her that her daughter Amanda died at the age of 66while she was asleep for 57 years. So the mother daughter Dynamic with Newt has more impact knowing that.
Weyland yutani controlled pretty much everything on earth. So it was either work for them or be homeless. And as with the shotgun, that wouldnt damage anything, too thick. The EXPLOSIVE ammo however, would.
"She is like Mando!"
Especially the episode with the Frog-lady and the Spider-cave. That was totally an Alien homage/tribute
Yes! We would have been even more freaked in that episode if we had seen Alien/s first!!
@@jessaandalexwatch if you like young Harrison Ford then I suggest you react to The Fugitive (1993). It also stars Tommy Lee Jones & it's based on an old 80s tv series. It's a pretty good thriller with some good tension & suspense.
50-51-year old Harrison Ford you mean?
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I guess I didn't realize how old Harrison Ford was during that movie.
@@jesselester9722 all good, the man didn't start aging until he hit 70 anyway. He's the original Paul Rudd.
"Oh no! Its little mouth in its mouth!" 🤣🤣🤣
Some eels have one too, and it's called a pharyngeal jaw.
Noooo why
There is a rumor Kamala Harris has a pharyngeal jaw, too.
@@trhansen3244 Random racist joke is random...
@@jessaandalexwatch Moray eels specifically...
@@ExtremeMadnessX I don't think Kamala is racist necessarily. Just power hungry and completely incompetent. She is whiter than I am!
Your initial expectation for how Ripley encounters the aliens again is....'not for this movie'.
Burke: *exists*
Jessa & Alex: So you have chosen violence.
I loved this, your reactions were brilliant, it really got you both tense and really invested, I only own the first two! they are the best of the series! You both be safe, hugs from Scotland :)
I found it sad that their reactions were so brainwashed by liberalism. Everything is sexist or racist.
@@trhansen3244 I know right.
Only bill Paxton's character made the illegal alien joke, and she made out that they all was r@cist because of it.
But I suppose in this day and age, if one white guy does something wrong, then that makes all white guys evil.
Notice how it was the caucasian girl who got offended. 🤦♂️
My mother is Lebanese and she laughs her @ss off at these people who get offended on behalf of minorities. 🤦♂️
Alien vs Predator is underrated. A LOT of fun.
Hudson was supposed to be basically a throwaway character. He was originally written as the coward of the group. And given basically no lines. HOWEVER!!!!!!! Bill Paxton didn't like this. And wanted more lines. So he started adlibing and wouldn't stop. But what he said was so good. That not only did they keep it (adding more of his adlibed lines back in, in the director cut.) He turned Hudson into one of the most beloved characters of the Franchise!!!!!!!!!! He wasn't a coward. He did need a bit of leadership. Nothing wrong with that. And he definitely didn't want to volunteer for ANYTHING. But that was due to him being only 2 Weeks until discharge.
Aaaand that’s how you make yourself a star!!
Speaking of Horror Movie sequels, I would love it if you reacted to Gremlins 2 at some point in the future :)
And follow that up with Key and Peele’s Gremlins 2 pitch meeting.
Agreed, Love Gremlins 2
Gremlins 2 is so underrated. A bunch of reactors have done the first one, but they've all dodged the second. They're missing out on a hidden gem.
The colonists stumbled into the aliens. Their doctors tried to save them. They ran into the same problems.
Alex and her “I wanna fight him” vibes is giving me life I’m so here for it
You girls should react to Terminator 1 and 2!
"She is like Mando."
No, Mando is like her.
Ripley HAD to go back with the intentions of seeing the Aliens wiped out; she had a personal grievance : She and Dallas, the Captain of the Nostromo in Alien, were romantically involved. It never said it in the films, but it did in the books...
"Hashtag notallrobots" is the funniest thing ever.
Honestly you need to watch them all. Get ALL THE LORE. Watch predator to.... and aliens vs predator. Just go all in. 🤣
If Die Hard is the ultimate Christmas movie, Aliens is the ultimate Mothers day movie! Hard facts!
I'm glad I watched this as a reminder that you both are very strong advocates of airlocking people at the earliest possible convenience.
She lost one person in particular. Her daughter. The extended version has a scene where shems told her daughter died of old age. It’s part of why she gets so attached to Newt. Sigourney was not too pleased about it being removed from the theatrical
“They’re not gonna have her go back to her old ship are they?” The one she blew up? I don’t think so
I would imagine the company scrubbed any evidence of the secret special order when the ship didn’t come back
Yeah, the infestation was recent. There was actually a scene in the extended showing how it starts
It’s just a regular colony, but they did have a science area. They were studying the facehuggers early into the infestation
The shotgun doesn’t fire the same ammunition as the rifles
No, he doesn’t know what that goop means. He’s never encountered any xenos.
Paul Reiser played an asshole so well his own mom cheered for Burke’s death
Why does everyone question checking the ceiling?! Are they supposed to wait until the xenos are right over them?! Let them fall RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM?!
You probably don’t wanna watch 3
Oh damn, I wish the Ripley’s daughter stuff had been in the theatrical cut! That’s really good info on her character.
@@jessaandalexwatch I'm really glad you watched this version first. You should watch the special edition at some stage. Though the daughter stuff is in the special edition, it doesn't land a huge emotional punch because all we have is a picture of her. We don't spend any time with the daughter, so the connection is a little limited. I think Ripley's motherly instincts still works well in the theatrical version.
@@leebrandt8597 to appreciate her daughter you have to play Alien: Isolation. Brilliant game and you play Amanda Ripley, Ellen’s daughter, looking for answers about her mom’s disappearance. It takes place between Alien and Aliens.
@@bridgethaines7127 wow, that sounds like a very interesting premise for a video game. I might just have to play it
@@leebrandt8597 I play it every year near Halloween. It's that good!
It's not mentioned but it's OK for Hicks to use that shotgun as the pellets are unlikely to pierce any of the cooling equipment.
Alien was suspenseful SciFi Horror
Aliens was a suspenseful SciFi Action
I think I like the first one better
rip Hudson, my favourite film character
Just a warning, don’t listen to these people suggesting Aliens 3. They just want to see you suffer, I guess. I saw it once, back when it was released, then mentally airlocked it. There are officially only 2 Alien films. 😉
Agree with you absolutely on Alien 3 but 4 wasn't bad.
One must ALWAYS watch every film in a franchise!
@@SvenDeBinj Home Alone 3 & 4 disprove that theory. 😂
@@christopherbacon1077 True, I don’t mind 4.
@@SvenDeBinj Even the Jaws sequels?
Nice to see you gals together in frame. I enjoyed this movie better than the original (which is rare for sequels). Good acting, good effects, simple plot. Thanks for reacting!
"If he calls he kiddo one more time!" *Keeps calling her honey*
You ladies are so knowledgeable, and charismatic!! God bless
You may be happy to know that there's a deleted scene that takes place at the end of the movie when Ripley is looking for Newt, where she runs across Burke after he's been cocooned by the Aliens. He begs Ripley to kill him, and she hands him a grenade and walks away.
wow thats news to me, I do think the scene of NEWT & family should have been included and more talk betw RIP and the docs before she decided to go back
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Ugh, perfect. So happy to hear that!
The second mouth is actually called a Pharyngeal Jaw. A second set of teeth that comes out. Moray Eels have it.
Talking about Cameron...Hudson and Vasquez both appear in Titanic!.....Hudson as the salvage guy and Vasquez as an Irish mother with 2 kids. She also appears in Terminator 2 as the kids adoptive mother. And Hicks & Hudson appeared in the first Terminator film. Hudson as a punk when encountering the Termintor at the start of the film. And Hicks as Kyle Reese...one of the main charaters. :). Bishop also appeared in the first Terminator film as a cop in the police station.
I came to your channel for Ted Lasso reactions, but I stayed for y’all’s addictive rapport and insights.
fun fact in the extended universe with the books and comics its shown that Burke bribed people to get the inexperienced commander for the marines.
Not once have either of you mentioned that Hicks is Kyle Reese.
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@@theashrook6129 Thanks. what does that boxed X mean?
Were you able to sleep that night?
@@sparksdrinker5650 it's usually the first thing people notice.
@@johnrob3215 Sounds like a no
Crunching of the knuckles?! Now THAT'S a reaction vid.
Subscribed! Your reactions are so relatable, insightful and funny.
2:55 The Further Adventures of Ripley begins.This is the theatrical version, which I saw in the ex-Cinerama theater that screened "2001: A Space Odyssey." The Colonial Marines think they are on a Bug Hunt. 9:30 I wondered how Ripley was able to "get close, quickly" to "Rebecca." A reviewer at the time said: "Sisterhood." I didn't buy that, and when I got a Special Edition Laserdisc (!) It was crystal clear that Ripley and Newt connect as mother and child. 12:07 The Marines are the Bugs! Carter Burke expects more from Ripley. The Alien swarm. Hudson is a Klingon warrior. Newt is taken. "Dwayne" and "Ellen." Flame, bullets and grenades, held together with duct tape.Queenie. Escape from the atmosphere. Battle on the "Sulaco." Queenie, can you scream in Space? Keep listening after the credits, Ripley's trip isn't over...yet.
It always amazes me when people state that the executives of the Weyland Company didn't believe Ripley because it was the same people who ordered Ash to bring back the specimen at the expense of the crew of the Nostromos. It was not the same people! These executives were not even born when the Nostromos incident happened. Now does the company, as a whole, have the same mindset? It's a very strong possibility but the current executives had no knowledge of what exactly happened 57 years ago. If they did then that would mean that there was a memo passed down from each executive to his or her successor about the order to have Ash bring back the alien at all cost. So over the last 57 years every CEO, CFO, Head Science Officer and etc. got a memo stating that the Ash, the artificial person, was ordered to sacrifice the crew of the Nostromos in order to secure the alien. Is that really believable? Again, Burke showed that there were people in the company that would sacrifice others for monetary gain but that does not mean that they knew of the previous order that was given to Ash 57 years before they were even born.
This is how I see it. Whoever gave Ash his orders in Alien also was high enough in the Weyland/Yutani company to change the crew assignments because Dallas told Ripley that Ash was a last minute replacement. Now during the Nostromos incident Ash could have sent back preliminary reports about his progress in studying the alien but there was no reason to mention that he was preventing the crew from defending themselves because that could lead to a paper trail implicating the company in murder. Now Van Leuwen admitted that the life boat records showed that Ripley's crew landed on LV426 so Burke had access to the coordinates, within a mile, of the alien ship. The fact that the colony was so close to the alien ship leads me to believe that some data was sent back by Ash or it was the biggest coincident in thw world considering how massive a planet has to be to hold an atmosphere. Obviously Hadley's Hope was close enough that Newt's family was able to return to the colony before the creature exploded out of the father. But again, this is just a few W/Y execs who probably didn't know the extent of the creature's danger and figured that anything that happened could be dealt with by the colony. Side note: the time it took to travel to LV426 presently was shorter than for the Nostromos because the advances in space travel during those 57 years (10 months vs 17 days).
Both Bill Paxton and Lance Henrikson are in Near Dark, which would be a good choice for a future viewing. Terrific vampire flick.
The donut was fresh as they only just lost contact with the colony.
Casting Paul Reiser as Burke was great, because he generally plays nice guys, so you expect that and get this.
The space flight to LV is six months.
@@johnrob3215 Preservativrs have come a long way in the future.
Good catch, John. Yes, the donut was not there for years. It was there for weeks.
@@johncampbell756 not that long...
@@trhansen3244 well, months.
19:08 After the alien bit Burke, there followed hours of agonizing pain before the alien finally died.
I don't think I've laughed so much on a reaction video for a movie like this one ;)
@@julielabrouste6344 He stole a Chuck Norris joke for that.
They didnt watch the extended version, it explains how the aliens got into the complex. I love your reactions together. keep it up
You all did good to get thru this movie.......great reactions! For another alienish movie, suggest watching "The Thing" -1982 film starring Kurt Russell. This time the aliens come to earth.
Loved it. You guys rock. Don't watch Alien 3. Just don't watch it. Thanks! Oh, I forgot... the extra mouth is actually the alien's tongue! Ewwww!
"Fight's over, get naked" needs to be a t-shirt or something
The colonists were scientists, but they were set down there without knowledge of the xenomorphs. The ones they had in jars were presumably ones they had managed to capture or extract (after having suffered untold losses) likely in an attempt to figure out as much as they could about what they were up against before it was Too Late. By the time Ripley and the space marines arrive, it was Too Late.
please, don't spoil the good memories and good feelings that these two movies gave you by watching the other movies after these, if you want just watch the 2004 movie "alien vs predator", which is not bad at all, the other movies either are garbage (in part or in whole), or simply ruin what was done with the first 2.
Honestly, Burke got off easy w/ that quick off-screen death.
Actually there was a deleted scene where Burke was found cocooned to a wall later on and begged Ripley for help. She hands him a grenade and walks off. But it was removed mostly for continuity reasons. A face hugger would have still been attached within the timespan between Burke getting captured and Ripley coming across him so it was cut. I also think it was cut because Vasquez and Gorman did the suicide by grenade thing already and it would have been repetitive within the film.
I'm very tired and pretty high, er, medicated so this will be quick and to the point. You both brighten my day and mama's do I need it. Thank you.
In the director's cut there is scene where we discover Ripley had a daughter who grew old and died while she was drifting through space. It adds an additional dimension to her relationship with Newt because its a second chance for her to be a mother.
What adoption review board would give a child to Ripley? She's freak now. Damaged goods. Bad news.
Some of the most despised film villains you desperately want to die: Burke in Aliens, Percy in Green Mile, Bricktop in Snatch, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in Dune, Calvin Candie in Django, most of the town in High Plains Drifter, Buck in Kill Bill, Nurse Ratchett in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, the killer in Citizen X. There’s a lot more but those first came to mind.
"I doubt these wheels can stand acid." Well, the trans-axel that Hicks mentioned surely didn't. Why else do you think it blew right after that? XD
That was fun Jessa and Alex, y'all should finish the series and do Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. 👽
Not Alien 3.
This made me reflect on that time that Batman fought Aliens. Or the time that Superman fought Aliens. Or the time Judge Dredd fought Aliens. And then I remembered that Dark Horse Comics, who currently owns the rights to Aliens, was recently acquired by Marvel that in turn is owned by Disney.
Does that make the Alien Queen a Disney Princess?
Disney gonna make Plush toys and alien won't be scary anymore 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, because a queen is not a princess and the Evil Queen in Snow White isn't a Disney Princess either, she's the vilain
Dark Horse is not owned by Marvel Comics.
Now you both are prepared for Alien3: The Assembly Cut. Bring tissues to that reaction video 🙃
Don't waste their time with that mediocre crapfestoviumabullacrappa.
@@trhansen3244 I don't think that Alien3 is a waste of time at all, I like the longer cut (The Assembly) and I find it underrated. It's truly interesting as a hard horror drama and deals with very mature and transcendental issues. It's the final chapter in Ripley's story with the alien, Sigourney is amazing again and Charles S Dutton, Charles Dance and Ralph Brown are also great in their respective roles. Elliot Goldenthal music is unbelievable moving (and creepy) as well, so yeah, I recommend it. Call me crazy 😅
@@carlosvega5699 Totally - Alien 3 is flawed, but is such an interesting, thematically dense movie. I have never understood why people have such a downer on it.
@@carlosvega5699 The thing is - absent the OTHER two films - Alien3 would've been a good film. It succeeds as a film in fact - but it FAILS as a sequel.
Basically it's "The Last Jedi" of it's time. The director was just like Ruin Johnson in his arrogance and dismissiveness of continuity of the other two films. As Ruin "did his own thing" for The Last Jedi - so too did David Fincher decide he was going to go off in a different direction for Alien3 because HE'S SPECIAL.
*Sigh*
Thing is - Ruin Johnson and Davey Fincher actually reportedly did and do make good films on their own. They are just THE WRONG people to bring into an existing continuity of films.
@@logandarklighter I don't think that Alien3 fails as a sequel. I understand why you and a lot of people can't accept what happen to the characters in the movie (I don't want to put spoilers) but those choices don't make the movie necessarily bad. And Fincher didn't ruin anything, his filmmaking is outstanding and not all of what you see in the movie in terms of story was his decision. Alien3 had a very troubled production and the script was constantly changing. Making that movie was a miserable experience for Fincher and for a lot of people, but the movie ended up being great, unique and coherent with itself. Then the studio butchered the movie again and what they released in cinemas back then was a shorter cut that ruined the pacing, the characters and all the meaning behind the words and actions of those characters. Luckily enough, The Assembly Cut exists and it serves as a proof of the talent of Fincher and the cast and crew. It's a flawed movie, but not a bad one.
In the extended cut we find out Ripley had a daughter that died of old age a couple years before she was found in the escape pod. She was protective of newt because she reminded her of the daughter and didn’t want to lose another girl.
" I hope he get´s eaten" ..... nice prediction!
If you like the design of the Engineer's vessel and the Xenomorph hive, check out H.R. Giger's "Biomechanics" series; it served as the inspiration for much of the design of the Alien universe. Warning; it gets weird real fast.
Also, the reason Hicks' shotgun isn't an issue when the other weapons are is that the smart-guns and rifles fire armor-piercing rounds, which would destroy the nuke plant's heat exchangers. A shotgun doesn't have that kind of armor penetration.
Final note: "Get away from her" gets all the attention, but I think the emotional crux of the scene is Ripley's repeated taunts of "Come on!" to the Queen. She's done, and almost angry that the creature that has dominated so much of her life through fear isn't giving a better account of itself. The only thing worse than encountering something you fear is realizing you never needed to fear it at all. In any case, Ripley has decided that someone's dying today, and invited the Queen to come find out who.
Fun fact. During filming the 'Aliens' were running around the sets with only the top part of their costumes in shot. Below that they were wearing shorts and training shoes (sneakers). Useful to remember if the films scare you. And for our next traumatised review ...........!
The next time you watch Aliens, definitely watch the Special Edition (Director's Cut), it's notably better.
she's old enough to be her own grandmother!
She's around 90.
I wonder why they never made a sequel? 😇
That's because Ripley, Hicks and Newt all went back to Earth and became a family unit with a two bedroom house and a dog and lived the rest of their lives in peace.
And that's the reality I choose...
@@Orlor Don’t forget Jones.
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They had only lost contact with the colony for about a week or so, not years.
The important thing is you'll understand more memes.
The colonists were actually colonists, not scientists experimenting on the Aliens. The colony had been there for 20 years before Ripley's escape pod was found and because Ripley blew the Nostromo up, the company didn't know about the ship with the Alien eggs. After Ripley tells the company about the Aliens, Burke sends the colonists a message requesting they investigate the position where the crashed ship is. A colonist family drives there and the father gets face-hugged (this is in the director's cut). The colonists try to remove the facehugger and in doing so accidentally kill the father (this is not seen but explained in dialogue) They presumably also try to find out what's going on and bring back more eggs. That's why there are both dead and living facehuggers in those containers in the med-lab. Overall the Director's Cut does a much better job explaining what happened on the planet and there are also important scenes for character development and a cool extra scene with the sentry guns. I'll never understand why people recommend the Theatrical Cut, the pacing isn't really better and certainly not worth losing the extra content.
James Cameron had outdone himself with this movie and I did love the 2003 extended version of this movie.
Y’all have me really curious about this extended version.
Another formative movie for me, like Dirty Dancing. ;)
I watched Dirty Dancing recently and I was truly shocked at how bad the acting in the film is. The music is fine, the dancing is fine, the acting is mostly abysmal. Don't throw any sharp objects at me just for expressing my opinion.