I had one heck of a mystical experience in 2018. I had a master speak to me telepathically, thing was he introduced himself as a sasquatch... yes there are sasquatch adepts. He was very wise and kind and shared a few things with me. He showed me sasquatch are capable of astral projection, remote viewing and they have clairudence abilites. Pretty wild for sure
In a desperate attempt in deep and great suffering, I meditated long, slow breath and contemplation......... I came back different ❤❤❤ I have had a brain scan showing changes??? I feel at peace I see so much more in everything ❤❤❤ Do not know who all to talk to???
@nathandouglas624 You are almost doing it right you want to meditate (sit up or lay down), visual white light and visualize breathing it into your body, the light will fill every cell if your body and you will start to glow. You will be able to shine that light to yourself or others you put in focus. You want to do this while belly breathing very, very slowly
@@SolveEtCoagula93 some infarct, some blood product. I have been on warfarin therapy for 22 years. ??? Will shall see what the Dr's say. I feel clear ❤️🩹
@@wildhumans8116 I needed to have the breakthrough I have had. My regular practice is like what you say. It only takes a short time ish, to light up in psyical, mental and spiritual uplifting. This is my way of obtaining peace in a broken body, without alcohol or narcotic medication. It works, come and see...
Unclear what point you're trying to make. Can you elaborate? Are you making an argument that memories are stored in cells, so-to-speak? Or that the "whole body" encompasses much more than just the physical mind/body?
@@MindThatEgoI understand what he said as schematic address. Could be something else, but I have seen/experienced this concept in action. It doesn't necessarily involve traumatic experiences but also experiences that the brain "seems" to have forgotten. The first sign to look for is when you ask a person something and he/she replied Idk, I've forgotten, or refuses to answer the question, look where on the physical body the hand will touch...One of my anecdotal experiences is this; a friend of mine felt bothered in dreaming about her ex-boyfriend. The outward experience she was experiencing was marital quarrel with a husband who was jealous about nothing. "It was just a dream, not having extramarital affair," my friend said and I believed her. The dream was about holding hands with her ex-boyfriend and they were in his hometown. I have knowledge that they actually had a trip to his hometown and so I asked a series of questions that led to this: "What was so memorable about that trip?" She said "None" with a hand slightly scratching her lips. Then I said, "He kissed you!" And she blushed.
@@MindThatEgoI understand what he said as schematic address. The body really tells where it hurts even if the brain "misplaced" the data of the injury in the catalogue. 😂 Learned this concept from Dr. Bessel van der Kolk's book The Body Keeps the Score and Dr. David Snyder who's a reiki master and NLP coach.
I guess I use to believe in the radio receiver model. No longer. First, it seems like a crude metaphor, with no ability to go into mechanistic detail, on how things actually happen. This doesn't mean there can't be some element beyond the physical, as suggested by NDE veridical perceptions. But the thing that has flipped me, to a more emergentist approach, the outlines which is beginning to be much more plausible, for at least in describing what maybe happening. At least a good portion of it. This is the work of Karl Friston. And up the ladder, in layers of developmental biology, is Michael Levin (Tufts U.). Dr. Jame Cooke, who has a RUclips channel, also a neuroscientist, has had a non-dual awakening, but still remains largely a naturalist, can explain more. Though with AI, one can find some isomorphism of some of the principles that may apply. Though it's still early days for AI. As we advance the field, we will learn more. But a lot of the mystery of "consciousness" (definition?) has left me. Michael Levin would explain, that consciousness is not any one thing. It's a conglomeration of the various competencies, operating at different levels, each contributing an element to which we may phenomenologically experience as "consciousness". If one were to argue that there is something beyond the physical brain, one ancient model maybe the Kosha model (the various sheaths, layers, functions), all valid in their own right. This includes material as well as spiritual. And not simply everything coming from "above" and "filtered" down through the brain. Or in Buddhism, the notion of "aggregates", and "dependent origination". Even in ancient theories, there is diversity.
Thanks for responding with a different perspective without resorting to insults or platitudes. I agree consciousness is layered, diverse, and not one thing. I think the question is, what is emerging from what? For sure there seems to be a both/and relationship with consciousness and the brain. My sense is that the brain emerges from an underlying archetype of the network and structure from which "thought" emerges. Vazza's and Feletti's study on the correlation of neural networks and the cosmic web points to this. That underlying archetype implies another dimension where that information is encoded and manifests to scale in fractal form, similar to Bohm's implicate order. My sense is that in a holistic cosmos, the emergent is pre-encoded to emerge on a "material" level. I will check out the other references with interest.
Things happen via our central and sympathetic nervous systems. They are the antennae that runs through our whole body and which I believe extend very subtly beyond our skin. I also believe those subtle nerve endings connect with other people's when we are physically close and that's why we can pick up 'signals' from and feel 'connections' with others. It's how telepathy and clairsentience work. Our nervous system is what connects us. It's the world wide web that we have replicated by creating the internet. We already know that mushrooms have such a system of communication.
Unless the mystic experience was found to be consistent it would be considered imagination And if it gets repeated then it would be getting stronger through neuro logical feedback wiring of neurons and synapses.So,it is not any truly new mytuc experience. How does one distinguish between dream illusion and mystery experience?
Good question. The discernment between the imagination and the senses crucial with self-enquiry. "Clear seeing" anchors into direct experience, free from the mind superimposing content onto it. The challenge is to remain present to see when the memory of a previous "clear seeing", attachment to returning to that state, the narrativising mind, etc creates a veil, mistaken for the experience itself.
Hold on, I don't need to nearly die to imagine looking at myself from outside of my body, that's a completely normal human capability. I suggest most people do so every night, and some can do it on demand eg. pictorial artists. Most novels are written from this perspective too. Kids beware people who talk loose and fast and slip crazy ideas in without you noticing and constantly proclaim themselves to be scientific so authoritative. The opposite of cynicism is skepticism, science is of the latter. America might be run by one of the former soon, king of convenient positive thinking spirituality.
You're conflating a number of things here and lumping them together. Spirituality doesn't mean a lack of skepticism or discernment, there's plenty of "crazy ideas" out there, in scientific, spiritual, and religious circles. For sure. Many "scientists" identify with skepticism as a badge of intellectual honour and don't see the ground they're stood on, which is an underlying assumption, taken as outright fact, that only objective "proof" is valid. Therefore skepticism becomes cynicism of anything outside of that worldview. Worth noting people like Marjorie aren't doing the opposite by dismissing materialism, but instead trying to understand how the revelations from objective data correlates to the subjective experience, particularly anomalies that are explained away in a myriad of ways. Out of curiosity, do you believe science the only authority? The only pathway to truth?
Solipsism is the belief that only "I" exist from a individual/psychological/egoic perspective. Approaches to non-duality point to an underlying unity of consciousness, accessible from within (Atman/Brahman). David Bohm's implicate order/holistic universe is worth looking into!
@@MindThatEgo okay you mean the ego self isn’t all there is yes I can see that being true but still I see no real evidence pointing to there being only one unity consciousness other than people being attached to the idea because it sounds nice and comforting… yes we are all humans and we share some similarities but still there are measurable differences and I don’t see the benefit of throwing this knowledge out the window just to feel smarter and nice…
@@bierfassner2253 There is an abundance of evidence. But this is the double bind - the subjectivity of consciousness goes unacknowledged in materialism. Phenomena like the observer effect point to this error in approach. Again, Bohm's implicate order is one example of many (which is also mathematically sound - based in quantum physics). Even materialist theories are having to integrate consciousness for them to make sense (panpsychism). That's before you touch upon the methodologies of self-enquiry, depth psychology, mythology, mystical experience, commonalities in dream landscapes, synchronicity, etc. There's an immense amount of counter evidence that doesn't fit the materialist framework. A number of people in the comments mention evidence, oblivious to the underlying assumption that evidence is only valid if objectively verifiable through the scientific method. Believing this method has to validate truth, even subjective truth, is from my perspective the definition of insanity. Subjective experience/consciousness cannot be "proven" by "objective" study, but if it is fundamental, you will see constant correlations across objective research. This conversation with Marjorie is one example, showing correlations between subjective experience and how it relates to our objective knowledge of the brain.
Is there any evidence that these people travelling the universe mentally aren’t just delusional and imagining things? It this really a neuroscientist? I kinda doubt it.
Energy, “vibratory” fields of perception I believe, can not be studied using the biological materialist reductionist model. We are souls in this physical reality.
💯therein is the paradox - science alone can't give answers to the fullness of life, and insistence that it can indicates an underlying belief system that, ironically, prevents open-minded scientific discovery.
@@stevendebernardi8291 The simplest definition is innermost self. I imagine you're looking for evidence of that objectively in order for it to exist, huh?
Amazing how smart, educated people can be fooled so easily. Can she demonstrate consciousness separate from the brain? No. Consciousness is the binding of sensory and memory information into an integrated perception.
"Amazing how smart, educated people can be fooled so easily" - that works both ways, no? Can you demonstrate consciousness is the binding of sensory and memory information into an integrated perception? And while you're at it, how that integrated perception gives rise to the self and subjective experience? And how sensory and memory information relates to depth psychology and the emergence of coherent symbols and myths across cultures and generations? Also, if you'd indulge me in your hypothesis, how do you describe love through your lens of consciousness? Is your only method to validate what's "real" the objective scientific method?
@@jennyboomboom5959 Not exactly true. The RAS (reticular activating system) send signals to the basal ganglia and thalamus which broadcasts signals to the cortices to activate. This enables our senses and motor system to increase activity. Millions of things are going on in our autonomic nervous system to maintain life, both when we are unconscious and conscious. When we awake from sleep (unconscious), the preceding activities take place in the brainstem and midbrain. We become awake and aware of our outer and inner environments, and thus become self-aware, thus we are conscious. The extant problems are the exact mechanics of the binding problem, that is, how our sensory inputs become integrated into a single percept and experience of the world. Stay tuned.
@@MindThatEgo I didn't know anything about this as a child. As an adult I am very skeptical of near death experiences. Basically, I find no reason to believe that we can access information that is somehow bypassing our senses. I know many people think this happens during NDE's, but it is more likely just their brains reacting to stress.
@@RayG817 I get that perspective with NDEs. What I would say is that this is an experience for those involved, that often directly conflicts with their worldview, which is why many stay quiet. Form your perspective, how do you account for the lack of brain activity, and the confirmation of witnesses who are present, as the brain's response to stress? "I find no reason to believe that we can access information that is somehow bypassing our senses" I get that. It used to be a view I held vehemently! It's worth noting though that reductive materialism isn't a fact, but an assumption. This worldview is almost exclusively alone in viewing the brain as an isolated island. Many other worldviews, spiritual and scientific, propose different views about consciousness and information. I've mentioned it before but Bohm's implicate order is one of them, suggesting reality is a hologram where encoded information is "projected" onto the three dimensional plane. The way quantum science is starting to approach information and viewing the cosmos holistically is edging closer to insights from non-dual traditions. Worth reading: www.space.com/29477-did-information-create-the-cosmos.html
@@MindThatEgoWe need to remember that theses are NEAR death experiences, not deaths. I account for the lack of brain activity as the lack of MEASURABLE brain activity. If the brain had truly stopped, these people would have really been dead, and stayed that way. This means that if there are any other possible explanations for witness confirmations (coincidences, mistakes, biases, lies, unconfirmed urban legends, etc.) they are all more plausible than a dead person exiting their body, looking around, returning to their body, then coming back to life. No matter how many people believe in dualism, it is still just a suggestions, guess, and opinion. And my guess is that very, very few scientist, and particularly experts in quantum mechanics, believe in it.
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I had one heck of a mystical experience in 2018. I had a master speak to me telepathically, thing was he introduced himself as a sasquatch... yes there are sasquatch adepts. He was very wise and kind and shared a few things with me. He showed me sasquatch are capable of astral projection, remote viewing and they have clairudence abilites. Pretty wild for sure
I have thought that Enkidu,(companion of Gilgamesh) was sasquatch kind.
In a desperate attempt in deep and great suffering, I meditated long, slow breath and contemplation.........
I came back different ❤❤❤ I have had a brain scan showing changes???
I feel at peace
I see so much more in everything ❤❤❤
Do not know who all to talk to???
What changes did your brain show?
@nathandouglas624 You are almost doing it right you want to meditate (sit up or lay down), visual white light and visualize breathing it into your body, the light will fill every cell if your body and you will start to glow. You will be able to shine that light to yourself or others you put in focus. You want to do this while belly breathing very, very slowly
@@SolveEtCoagula93 some infarct, some blood product. I have been on warfarin therapy for 22 years.
??? Will shall see what the Dr's say. I feel clear ❤️🩹
@@wildhumans8116 I needed to have the breakthrough I have had.
My regular practice is like what you say. It only takes a short time ish, to light up in psyical, mental and spiritual uplifting.
This is my way of obtaining peace in a broken body, without alcohol or narcotic medication.
It works, come and see...
@@SolveEtCoagula93infarcts with blood product occurred in multiple locations.
The" whole" body"
records/predicts traumatic events that the mind doesn't remember. Hence, gut feeling 😊
Unclear what point you're trying to make. Can you elaborate? Are you making an argument that memories are stored in cells, so-to-speak? Or that the "whole body" encompasses much more than just the physical mind/body?
@@MindThatEgoI understand what he said as schematic address. Could be something else, but I have seen/experienced this concept in action. It doesn't necessarily involve traumatic experiences but also experiences that the brain "seems" to have forgotten. The first sign to look for is when you ask a person something and he/she replied Idk, I've forgotten, or refuses to answer the question, look where on the physical body the hand will touch...One of my anecdotal experiences is this; a friend of mine felt bothered in dreaming about her ex-boyfriend. The outward experience she was experiencing was marital quarrel with a husband who was jealous about nothing. "It was just a dream, not having extramarital affair," my friend said and I believed her. The dream was about holding hands with her ex-boyfriend and they were in his hometown. I have knowledge that they actually had a trip to his hometown and so I asked a series of questions that led to this: "What was so memorable about that trip?" She said "None" with a hand slightly scratching her lips. Then I said, "He kissed you!" And she blushed.
@@MindThatEgoI understand what he said as schematic address. The body really tells where it hurts even if the brain "misplaced" the data of the injury in the catalogue. 😂 Learned this concept from Dr. Bessel van der Kolk's book The Body Keeps the Score and Dr. David Snyder who's a reiki master and NLP coach.
"School of thought."
Credentials.
I've had many mystical experiences--- yet, I have not met a peer face to face. Interesting.
I guess I use to believe in the radio receiver model. No longer. First, it seems like a crude metaphor, with no ability to go into mechanistic detail, on how things actually happen. This doesn't mean there can't be some element beyond the physical, as suggested by NDE veridical perceptions.
But the thing that has flipped me, to a more emergentist approach, the outlines which is beginning to be much more plausible, for at least in describing what maybe happening. At least a good portion of it. This is the work of Karl Friston. And up the ladder, in layers of developmental biology, is Michael Levin (Tufts U.). Dr. Jame Cooke, who has a RUclips channel, also a neuroscientist, has had a non-dual awakening, but still remains largely a naturalist, can explain more. Though with AI, one can find some isomorphism of some of the principles that may apply. Though it's still early days for AI. As we advance the field, we will learn more. But a lot of the mystery of "consciousness" (definition?) has left me. Michael Levin would explain, that consciousness is not any one thing. It's a conglomeration of the various competencies, operating at different levels, each contributing an element to which we may phenomenologically experience as "consciousness".
If one were to argue that there is something beyond the physical brain, one ancient model maybe the Kosha model (the various sheaths, layers, functions), all valid in their own right. This includes material as well as spiritual. And not simply everything coming from "above" and "filtered" down through the brain. Or in Buddhism, the notion of "aggregates", and "dependent origination". Even in ancient theories, there is diversity.
Thanks for responding with a different perspective without resorting to insults or platitudes.
I agree consciousness is layered, diverse, and not one thing. I think the question is, what is emerging from what? For sure there seems to be a both/and relationship with consciousness and the brain.
My sense is that the brain emerges from an underlying archetype of the network and structure from which "thought" emerges. Vazza's and Feletti's study on the correlation of neural networks and the cosmic web points to this.
That underlying archetype implies another dimension where that information is encoded and manifests to scale in fractal form, similar to Bohm's implicate order. My sense is that in a holistic cosmos, the emergent is pre-encoded to emerge on a "material" level.
I will check out the other references with interest.
Things happen via our central and sympathetic nervous systems. They are the antennae that runs through our whole body and which I believe extend very subtly beyond our skin. I also believe those subtle nerve endings connect with other people's when we are physically close and that's why we can pick up 'signals' from and feel 'connections' with others. It's how telepathy and clairsentience work. Our nervous system is what connects us. It's the world wide web that we have replicated by creating the internet. We already know that mushrooms have such a system of communication.
@@GraceKirk-k8y This is a nice way of looking at this! Like a mycelial network of emotions and social bonding 🍄
Unless the mystic experience was found to be consistent it would be considered imagination And if it gets repeated then it would be getting stronger through neuro logical feedback wiring of neurons and synapses.So,it is not any truly new mytuc experience. How does one distinguish between dream illusion and mystery experience?
Good question. The discernment between the imagination and the senses crucial with self-enquiry. "Clear seeing" anchors into direct experience, free from the mind superimposing content onto it.
The challenge is to remain present to see when the memory of a previous "clear seeing", attachment to returning to that state, the narrativising mind, etc creates a veil, mistaken for the experience itself.
The moment someone says "brain" and does not define what one of the 7 brains they are talking about, I know they "cant see past the end of their nose"
Hold on, I don't need to nearly die to imagine looking at myself from outside of my body, that's a completely normal human capability. I suggest most people do so every night, and some can do it on demand eg. pictorial artists. Most novels are written from this perspective too.
Kids beware people who talk loose and fast and slip crazy ideas in without you noticing and constantly proclaim themselves to be scientific so authoritative. The opposite of cynicism is skepticism, science is of the latter. America might be run by one of the former soon, king of convenient positive thinking spirituality.
You're conflating a number of things here and lumping them together. Spirituality doesn't mean a lack of skepticism or discernment, there's plenty of "crazy ideas" out there, in scientific, spiritual, and religious circles. For sure.
Many "scientists" identify with skepticism as a badge of intellectual honour and don't see the ground they're stood on, which is an underlying assumption, taken as outright fact, that only objective "proof" is valid. Therefore skepticism becomes cynicism of anything outside of that worldview.
Worth noting people like Marjorie aren't doing the opposite by dismissing materialism, but instead trying to understand how the revelations from objective data correlates to the subjective experience, particularly anomalies that are explained away in a myriad of ways.
Out of curiosity, do you believe science the only authority? The only pathway to truth?
And if there is only one consciousness isn’t this basically solopsism?
Solipsism is the belief that only "I" exist from a individual/psychological/egoic perspective. Approaches to non-duality point to an underlying unity of consciousness, accessible from within (Atman/Brahman). David Bohm's implicate order/holistic universe is worth looking into!
@@MindThatEgo okay you mean the ego self isn’t all there is yes I can see that being true but still I see no real evidence pointing to there being only one unity consciousness other than people being attached to the idea because it sounds nice and comforting… yes we are all humans and we share some similarities but still there are measurable differences and I don’t see the benefit of throwing this knowledge out the window just to feel smarter and nice…
@@bierfassner2253 There is an abundance of evidence. But this is the double bind - the subjectivity of consciousness goes unacknowledged in materialism. Phenomena like the observer effect point to this error in approach.
Again, Bohm's implicate order is one example of many (which is also mathematically sound - based in quantum physics). Even materialist theories are having to integrate consciousness for them to make sense (panpsychism).
That's before you touch upon the methodologies of self-enquiry, depth psychology, mythology, mystical experience, commonalities in dream landscapes, synchronicity, etc. There's an immense amount of counter evidence that doesn't fit the materialist framework.
A number of people in the comments mention evidence, oblivious to the underlying assumption that evidence is only valid if objectively verifiable through the scientific method. Believing this method has to validate truth, even subjective truth, is from my perspective the definition of insanity.
Subjective experience/consciousness cannot be "proven" by "objective" study, but if it is fundamental, you will see constant correlations across objective research.
This conversation with Marjorie is one example, showing correlations between subjective experience and how it relates to our objective knowledge of the brain.
Is there any evidence that these people travelling the universe mentally aren’t just delusional and imagining things? It this really a neuroscientist? I kinda doubt it.
Energy, “vibratory” fields of perception I believe, can not be studied using the biological materialist reductionist model. We are souls in this physical reality.
💯therein is the paradox - science alone can't give answers to the fullness of life, and insistence that it can indicates an underlying belief system that, ironically, prevents open-minded scientific discovery.
Souls you say/? Prove that.
@@stevendebernardi8291 Disprove it?
@@MindThatEgo Funny. Define for me what YOUR SOUL IS…Please. I know not of what you speak. Thank you.
@@stevendebernardi8291 The simplest definition is innermost self. I imagine you're looking for evidence of that objectively in order for it to exist, huh?
Amazing how smart, educated people can be fooled so easily. Can she demonstrate consciousness separate from the brain? No. Consciousness is the binding of sensory and memory information into an integrated perception.
"Amazing how smart, educated people can be fooled so easily" - that works both ways, no? Can you demonstrate consciousness is the binding of sensory and memory information into an integrated perception?
And while you're at it, how that integrated perception gives rise to the self and subjective experience? And how sensory and memory information relates to depth psychology and the emergence of coherent symbols and myths across cultures and generations?
Also, if you'd indulge me in your hypothesis, how do you describe love through your lens of consciousness? Is your only method to validate what's "real" the objective scientific method?
@@MindThatEgo Yes, it works both ways. All your questions are good ones. We are working on them. Stay tuned.
What you state about consciousness is a hypothesis. For decades science has not been able to explain how consciousness forms.
@@jennyboomboom5959 Not exactly true. The RAS (reticular activating system) send signals to the basal ganglia and thalamus which broadcasts signals to the cortices to activate. This enables our senses and motor system to increase activity. Millions of things are going on in our autonomic nervous system to maintain life, both when we are unconscious and conscious. When we awake from sleep (unconscious), the preceding activities take place in the brainstem and midbrain. We become awake and aware of our outer and inner environments, and thus become self-aware, thus we are conscious. The extant problems are the exact mechanics of the binding problem, that is, how our sensory inputs become integrated into a single percept and experience of the world. Stay tuned.
@@jennyboomboom5959 Indeed. Hypothesis presented as fact, the opposite of a scientific approach to enquiry.
Just shut up... Just shut up all of you..parroting each other. Universe playing to know itself ! Come on , be original
No.
I don't believe this. Why do you?
Did you lack belief as a child? Or did you intuit something more that your education caused you to doubt?
@@MindThatEgo I didn't know anything about this as a child. As an adult I am very skeptical of near death experiences. Basically, I find no reason to believe that we can access information that is somehow bypassing our senses. I know many people think this happens during NDE's, but it is more likely just their brains reacting to stress.
@@RayG817 I get that perspective with NDEs. What I would say is that this is an experience for those involved, that often directly conflicts with their worldview, which is why many stay quiet.
Form your perspective, how do you account for the lack of brain activity, and the confirmation of witnesses who are present, as the brain's response to stress?
"I find no reason to believe that we can access information that is somehow bypassing our senses"
I get that. It used to be a view I held vehemently! It's worth noting though that reductive materialism isn't a fact, but an assumption. This worldview is almost exclusively alone in viewing the brain as an isolated island.
Many other worldviews, spiritual and scientific, propose different views about consciousness and information. I've mentioned it before but Bohm's implicate order is one of them, suggesting reality is a hologram where encoded information is "projected" onto the three dimensional plane.
The way quantum science is starting to approach information and viewing the cosmos holistically is edging closer to insights from non-dual traditions. Worth reading: www.space.com/29477-did-information-create-the-cosmos.html
@@MindThatEgoWe need to remember that theses are NEAR death experiences, not deaths. I account for the lack of brain activity as the lack of MEASURABLE brain activity. If the brain had truly stopped, these people would have really been dead, and stayed that way. This means that if there are any other possible explanations for witness confirmations (coincidences, mistakes, biases, lies, unconfirmed urban legends, etc.) they are all more plausible than a dead person exiting their body, looking around, returning to their body, then coming back to life.
No matter how many people believe in dualism, it is still just a suggestions, guess, and opinion. And my guess is that very, very few scientist, and particularly experts in quantum mechanics, believe in it.