The "market" has been massively wrong on what the Fed should do with the funds rate for at least 2.5 years now. In early 2022 before the Fed even started hiking, the market was already forecasting rate cuts to happen by end of 2022. The market at the start of 2024 had 7 rate cuts for 2024. Laughable to suggest the Fed is the one that has been getting this wrong. It has proven out that they were right to start hiking in early 2022, aggressively ramp up that funds rate, and then keep it at the terminal rate until now. Also, the Fed on numerous occasions has stated that a recession will likely occur as a result of this hiking cycle. The market consensus has been no or soft landing, which is another thing they will be massively wrong on...........I've been engaged in active trading and managed to grow a nest egg of around 14k to a decent 539k....I'm especially grateful to whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.
It really helped trading with Christina jane analysis and info, even with the market in a downward trend. Definitely riding the market wave is a good perspective..
GREAT NWES!!started working with Christina back in April , and my financial goals have been clearer. It's like having a strategic partner for my money with a solid track record.
In a field as rapidly evolving as cryptocurrency, staying updated is crucial. Seren’s continual research and adaptation to the latest market changes have been instrumental in helping me make informed decisions.
Every single day, new bear content. Every single day, my portfolio is going up. I've been watching bear content for a year. Glad I never acted on it but rather I listened to my FA Abby Joseph Cohen or I would have missed out on huge, enormous gains.
I was a stay at Home mom with no money in my IRA or any savings of my own, which was scary at 53 years of age. Three years ago I got a part time job and save everything I make. After 3 years, I am 56 yo and have put $9,000 in an IRA and $40,000 in my portfolio with CFA, Abby Joseph Cohen. Since the goal of getting a job was to invest for retirement and NOT up my lifestyle, she was able to scale this quickly to $150,000.
I know this FA, Abby Joseph Cohen Services but only by her reputation at Goldman Sachs; even though she's now involved in managing portfolios and providing investmnt guidance to clients. I have been trying to get in contact since I watched her interview on WSJ last month
@@LaillaBelgradeWell her name is 'ABBY JOSEPH COHEN SERVICES'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I went from no money to lnvest with to busting my A** off on Uber eats for four months to raise about $20k to start trading with Abby Joseph Cohen. I am at $128k right now and LOVING that you have to bring this up here
Great share! Out of curiosity, I searched Abby Joseph Cohen Services online, found her consulting page ranked at the top, and scheduled a call session. I've read many reviews about advisors, but none seem as impressive as hers.
I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Katherine Stewart.
Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing her been mentioned here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, I'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.
She is my family's personal Broker and also a personal Broker to many families in the United states, she is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in the United States.
I really like this guy, but listening to it is just like listening to some one who can’t help but have his cake and eat it too. He understands all the problems with our economy, but if you even mention trying to get near fixing it, he immediately starts talking about the end of the world. So what do we do? Your argument is basically we are incredibly rich and we can’t fix this crazy ass system that we’ve found ourself in, but if anyone tries to change it, everyone will pull their money and leave. So we just honestly continue to spiral into a garunteed disaster for our future generations? I don’t know. I totally understand he is giving macro perspective. It just is hard to hear him say he understands that we handled 2008 wrong and people should go to jail. But then we talk about the wealth gap and the first responses are if we try to tax the wealthy then we’re all fucked and everyone will leave. So basically we just stay in this fucked situation because everyone else benefits from it. Wonderful
Absolutely loved both parts of this episode (Dan and Danny, and then Guy, Danny and Luke). I enjoy hearing Gromen's insight and really hope he will become a regular on OTTP. Would love to hear Guy & Luke discuss "paper gold" next time as well. TY Team RR!
The continuously changing economic conditions in our society have made it necessary for people to find additional sources of income. I am a Data Scientist, but currently looking at the stock market to fuel my retirement goal of $10m, my only concern is the recent market crash. Do I stay 100% cash and wait for a bull market, or go ahead to invest anyways?
Agreed, notwithstanding my rookie knowledge of investing, I have a financial advisor who did the trick in a bit more than 6 months after a lump sum capital of $500k. I've made a fortune so far, and I'm now buying real estates, gold and silver as advised by my FA.
truly appreciate the implementation of ideas and strategies that result to unmeasurable progress, thus the search for a reputable advisor, mind sharing info of this person guiding you please?
On the run math is Lukes favourite. It gets less convincing every time I see it. Ah Jabba de Jabba 2.5%. a Jabba de Yabba maybe 100million Urrrr billion Urrrr trillion. Yeah that's it I think. 🤔
I said this before and I will say this again, no one is taking consideration the shift in how the US economy is run by this administration. It's dynamically different from the past 50 years. SO using previous models will not work. I am not trying to be political but the amount of construction going on in the US is unheard of and get this, the tech spending & Ukraine war adds another piece of the puzzle why the economy is unbreakable at the moment, to top its all off, the US Is the new opec. If this continues, all the pattern seeking economists will be wrong again. I am still buying and will stay buying.
It is simply staggering to me that Guy and Danny - less so or not at all Dan - continue to obsess over the idea that inflation could reignite. Inflation did nothing for the entire 2010's when the Federal Reserve kept rates at zero and carried out a variety of QE programs.
To Dan's point, inflation only came about when governments all over the world threw trillions of dollars at consumers and told them to spend. Inflation. Duh. That ain't happening again unless you believe UBI is coming and I don't see how given the US debt levels they could introduce another entitlement program when they can barely fund the existing ones.
We are already directly involved to some extent. Trump would at least reverse this nonsense 4 the next 4 years like he did the last time . Some of you may hate him but at least he delayed your children and grandchildren from being drafted.
In other words.. the “crash” UP is happening and will continue to happen year after year. The ones in control will not sacrifice their own comfort. This is human nature and psychology
I think if whatever President came on and said we’re getting directly involved in these wars which is not out of the realm of possibility would be bearish
Start with stopping all foreign aid to other countries: Israel, Egypt, Africa etc. then cut 10 percent in each dept. Get rid of USPS, stop farm subsidy, tax all of the income for social security. Get rid of dept of education. Let’s start there. I paid for SS and expect to be there when I retire. Entitlements are not the problem.
As long as you refuse to address the market manipulation by the Treasury, i hope the comments keep clowning the channel. Maybe yall won't say anything because CNBC won't let you back on.
Is the stock market actually getting better or is this the Election time manipulation to entice new investors, I'm currently sitting on an inheritance of 300k and I'm wondering if I should invest in stocks or just buy gold?
Oof... For a second I thought Luke might say how he'd want it inversely "linked"... like efficiency of scale. btc is inverse efficiency of scale, like AI. Yes, there are gains..... incremental gains for orders of magnitude more energy. It's like "how fast can we drown" 😮
How much energy does it take to keep the US dollar as global reserve currency? How much energy does it take to keep printing a trillion dollars every 100 days? Your focus is completely misplaced.
@@tbone8737 Interesting question! Of course they don't mint a trillion physically that often, vs keystrokes in ledgers of banks. There's energy for that too, but immaterial like printing. BUT, excellent point... It DOES take a bunch of energy to flap the wings of the fed and media hype machines. But I think we can even call this jawboning energy small, in the perspective of the military complex. A TON of energy is spent making and using this equipment, not to mention the many LIVES lost. Even if we're cold, make/using the physical stuff DOES use a ton of energy! "Weird" how big conflicts happen to materialize every time the US & West need to "print," counter balancing depreciation with flight to safety ~ USD, UST etc traditionally. AND effectively massively exporting inflation around the world. They say its "the price we pay for USD stability and yada yada" Absolutely, in due course we need to get off the USD. I haven't remotely gotten into how I love blockchain concept, may be able to get behind cryptos, etc. It's mostly the POW's I take issue with, which are unnecessary. Some people even call it a "store of energy"... no, it's a sink. And any hype around storing the value of energy or whatever is BS. It's a non-sensical talking point justification. There are other merits.... no need. But there's also far better options.
😂😂 who is saying don't get a skill/education with market demand? Of course you need a job what are you even saying? You don't know what you're talking about
He gets paid to have the market go up. These guys are sleezy, more educated car salesman. Let’s get the S&P to 15,000 by year end. Valuations don’t matter when rates come down 50 bps. Also helps when the national deficit is beyond scary, credit card use is trillions higher over a few years and the job market is softening. Good time to buy, buy, buy, most likely because AI is going to fix everything wrong with everything in the world
@@Asdasdssd haven’t missed the boat at all. Up 40% this year. I’m just focused on value plays, not riding the index’s thy are driven by 5 names. Thx for playing though
Luke's idea of cutting Social Security is a good idea, but it doesn't go far enough. They should end Social Security, the Boomers that can't support themselves could be moved into some of the unused prisons that were never completed. Sort of an encampment where they could be fed and housed, some of the Boomers wouldn't want to go, so you would Implement a means test use the utilities company any Boomer that falls 60 days behind in his utility bills would be rounded up pets euthanize he could then spend his school years in the sanctuary prison in campment, and it would be a lot cheaper to feed them because we already own the prisons that aren't being used, and we could feed them crackers peanut butter, and cat food with Crisco oil
saying the fed reacted to a black swan event is disingenuous. covid was a joke for the vast majority of people who got it. the governments around the world created the supply chain issues and the economic collapsing. the fed came to the rescue for a problem that shouldn't have been there, and then they were buying mbs when cpi was already on the rise. Dan, you make good points most shows but listening to you talk about covid and the fed gives me a headache.
Nice exclamation point there Luke!! Bitcoin only, not crypto!!!
Thank you for this video, do you offer account management or have any recommendations?
The "market" has been massively wrong on what the Fed should do with the funds rate for at least 2.5 years now. In early 2022 before the Fed even started hiking, the market was already forecasting rate cuts to happen by end of 2022. The market at the start of 2024 had 7 rate cuts for 2024. Laughable to suggest the Fed is the one that has been getting this wrong. It has proven out that they were right to start hiking in early 2022, aggressively ramp up that funds rate, and then keep it at the terminal rate until now. Also, the Fed on numerous occasions has stated that a recession will likely occur as a result of this hiking cycle. The market consensus has been no or soft landing, which is another thing they will be massively wrong on...........I've been engaged in active trading and managed to grow a nest egg of around 14k to a decent 539k....I'm especially grateful to whose deep expertise and traditional trading acumen have been invaluable in this challenging, ever-evolving financial landscape.
Wow that's huge, how do you make that
much monthly?
As a beginner, what do i need to do? how can i invest, on which platform If you know any please share.
It really helped trading with Christina jane analysis and info, even with the market in a downward trend. Definitely riding the market wave is a good perspective..
GREAT NWES!!started working with Christina back in April , and my financial goals have been clearer. It's like having a strategic partner for my money with a solid track record.
This was amazing.
In my opinion
SHE IS ON TELE GRAM.
@Serenwintersun
In a field as rapidly evolving as cryptocurrency, staying updated is crucial. Seren’s continual research and adaptation to the latest market changes have been instrumental in helping me make informed decisions.
Always backup your trading with a good strategy.
Nice, I was just hodling before I found Wintersun. In my opinion she is the very best out there.
Every single day, new bear content. Every single day, my portfolio is going up. I've been watching bear content for a year. Glad I never acted on it but rather I listened to my FA Abby Joseph Cohen or I would have missed out on huge, enormous gains.
I was a stay at Home mom with no money in my IRA or any savings of my own, which was scary at 53 years of age. Three years ago I got a part time job and save everything I make. After 3 years, I am 56 yo and have put $9,000 in an IRA and $40,000 in my portfolio with CFA, Abby Joseph Cohen. Since the goal of getting a job was to invest for retirement and NOT up my lifestyle, she was able to scale this quickly to $150,000.
I know this FA, Abby Joseph Cohen Services but only by her reputation at Goldman Sachs; even though she's now involved in managing portfolios and providing investmnt guidance to clients. I have been trying to get in contact since I watched her interview on WSJ last month
@@LaillaBelgradeWell her name is 'ABBY JOSEPH COHEN SERVICES'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I went from no money to lnvest with to busting my A** off on Uber eats for four months to raise about $20k to start trading with Abby Joseph Cohen. I am at $128k right now and LOVING that you have to bring this up here
Great share! Out of curiosity, I searched Abby Joseph Cohen Services online, found her consulting page ranked at the top, and scheduled a call session. I've read many reviews about advisors, but none seem as impressive as hers.
Great stuff, thanks again!
I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Katherine Stewart.
Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing her been mentioned here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, I'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.
She is my family's personal Broker and also a personal Broker to many families in the United states, she is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in the United States.
You trade with Katherine Stewart too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much.
I really like this guy, but listening to it is just like listening to some one who can’t help but have his cake and eat it too. He understands all the problems with our economy, but if you even mention trying to get near fixing it, he immediately starts talking about the end of the world.
So what do we do? Your argument is basically we are incredibly rich and we can’t fix this crazy ass system that we’ve found ourself in, but if anyone tries to change it, everyone will pull their money and leave.
So we just honestly continue to spiral into a garunteed disaster for our future generations? I don’t know. I totally understand he is giving macro perspective. It just is hard to hear him say he understands that we handled 2008 wrong and people should go to jail.
But then we talk about the wealth gap and the first responses are if we try to tax the wealthy then we’re all fucked and everyone will leave. So basically we just stay in this fucked situation because everyone else benefits from it. Wonderful
Absolutely loved both parts of this episode (Dan and Danny, and then Guy, Danny and Luke). I enjoy hearing Gromen's insight and really hope he will become a regular on OTTP. Would love to hear Guy & Luke discuss "paper gold" next time as well. TY Team RR!
“Energy linked” lol
They are desperately searching for a narrative
The continuously changing economic conditions in our society have made it necessary for people to find additional sources of income. I am a Data Scientist, but currently looking at the stock market to fuel my retirement goal of $10m, my only concern is the recent market crash. Do I stay 100% cash and wait for a bull market, or go ahead to invest anyways?
buying the dip is actually good investing, although for the majority, their investing solution can be found in specialized expertise
Agreed, notwithstanding my rookie knowledge of investing, I have a financial advisor who did the trick in a bit more than 6 months after a lump sum capital of $500k. I've made a fortune so far, and I'm now buying real estates, gold and silver as advised by my FA.
truly appreciate the implementation of ideas and strategies that result to unmeasurable progress, thus the search for a reputable advisor, mind sharing info of this person guiding you please?
‘’Aileen Gertrude Tippy’’ is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with and set up an appointment.
On the run math is Lukes favourite. It gets less convincing every time I see it.
Ah Jabba de Jabba 2.5%. a Jabba de Yabba maybe 100million Urrrr billion Urrrr trillion. Yeah that's it I think. 🤔
Always ends up wrong anyway. Check out his past fear mongering interviews from the past years. The guy is a story teller 😂
So good!
"the last two times the fed ended with 0.5% cut the market went down"
Yes. But past performance is not indicative of future return
If you don’t mind, me, asking are the host of the show money managers FC’s basically what are your qualifications?
I said this before and I will say this again, no one is taking consideration the shift in how the US economy is run by this administration. It's dynamically different from the past 50 years. SO using previous models will not work. I am not trying to be political but the amount of construction going on in the US is unheard of and get this, the tech spending & Ukraine war adds another piece of the puzzle why the economy is unbreakable at the moment, to top its all off, the US Is the new opec. If this continues, all the pattern seeking economists will be wrong again. I am still buying and will stay buying.
"it's different this time"
@@prolific1518 It literally is.
@@AnberThe lol when you buy the top you hope it is
@@prolific1518 You've been saying that for 3 years now
@@AnberThe you have a very smooth brain
Luke is very smart the only one I like better is Chris Vermelon I think.
It is simply staggering to me that Guy and Danny - less so or not at all Dan - continue to obsess over the idea that inflation could reignite. Inflation did nothing for the entire 2010's when the Federal Reserve kept rates at zero and carried out a variety of QE programs.
To Dan's point, inflation only came about when governments all over the world threw trillions of dollars at consumers and told them to spend. Inflation. Duh. That ain't happening again unless you believe UBI is coming and I don't see how given the US debt levels they could introduce another entitlement program when they can barely fund the existing ones.
These are always the fun comments when the other shoe inevitably drops. Not saying you can’t make money on the way up and down.
We are already directly involved to some extent.
Trump would at least reverse this nonsense 4 the next 4 years like he did the last time .
Some of you may hate him but at least he delayed your children and grandchildren from being drafted.
In other words.. the “crash” UP is happening and will continue to happen year after year. The ones in control will not sacrifice their own comfort. This is human nature and psychology
🔥🔥🔥
I think if whatever President came on and said we’re getting directly involved in these wars which is not out of the realm of possibility would be bearish
Start with stopping all foreign aid to other countries: Israel, Egypt, Africa etc. then cut 10 percent in each dept. Get rid of USPS, stop farm subsidy, tax all of the income for social security. Get rid of dept of education. Let’s start there. I paid for SS and expect to be there when I retire. Entitlements are not the problem.
As long as you refuse to address the market manipulation by the Treasury, i hope the comments keep clowning the channel. Maybe yall won't say anything because CNBC won't let you back on.
Dans drinking the cool aid about the soft landing
Is the stock market actually getting better or is this the Election time manipulation to entice new investors, I'm currently sitting on an inheritance of 300k and I'm wondering if I should invest in stocks or just buy gold?
Oof... For a second I thought Luke might say how he'd want it inversely "linked"... like efficiency of scale.
btc is inverse efficiency of scale, like AI. Yes, there are gains..... incremental gains for orders of magnitude more energy.
It's like "how fast can we drown" 😮
How much energy does it take to keep the US dollar as global reserve currency? How much energy does it take to keep printing a trillion dollars every 100 days? Your focus is completely misplaced.
@@tbone8737 Interesting question! Of course they don't mint a trillion physically that often, vs keystrokes in ledgers of banks. There's energy for that too, but immaterial like printing. BUT, excellent point...
It DOES take a bunch of energy to flap the wings of the fed and media hype machines. But I think we can even call this jawboning energy small, in the perspective of the military complex. A TON of energy is spent making and using this equipment, not to mention the many LIVES lost. Even if we're cold, make/using the physical stuff DOES use a ton of energy!
"Weird" how big conflicts happen to materialize every time the US & West need to "print," counter balancing depreciation with flight to safety ~ USD, UST etc traditionally.
AND effectively massively exporting inflation around the world. They say its "the price we pay for USD stability and yada yada"
Absolutely, in due course we need to get off the USD. I haven't remotely gotten into how I love blockchain concept, may be able to get behind cryptos, etc.
It's mostly the POW's I take issue with, which are unnecessary. Some people even call it a "store of energy"... no, it's a sink. And any hype around storing the value of energy or whatever is BS. It's a non-sensical talking point justification. There are other merits.... no need. But there's also far better options.
Perma Bears.......
Cut one thing only….
Lobbying !
Must spend in USD must convert Bitcoin to USD to live.
Same goes for stocks, bonds, gold, etc. what's your point?
Worthless! Done listening to these guys. Dan completely flip flops
thanks for the engagement anyway!!
The whole system is a carry trade
'Raging bull market' ...time to fade.
Enough with Bitcoin. It’s encouraging young people they have a chance. They don’t. Learn a trade. Heveans to Betsy. Luke ur better than this
😂😂 who is saying don't get a skill/education with market demand? Of course you need a job what are you even saying? You don't know what you're talking about
Never notices that Crude, USD and yields are almost exactly the same chart until 5:24 (although obviously yields and USD are very correlated)
This dude wears a Trumpian amount of orange bronzer
He gets paid to have the market go up. These guys are sleezy, more educated car salesman. Let’s get the S&P to 15,000 by year end. Valuations don’t matter when rates come down 50 bps. Also helps when the national deficit is beyond scary, credit card use is trillions higher over a few years and the job market is softening. Good time to buy, buy, buy, most likely because AI is going to fix everything wrong with everything in the world
And you will still be whining about missing the boat in the comments 😂😂😂
@@Asdasdssd haven’t missed the boat at all. Up 40% this year. I’m just focused on value plays, not riding the index’s thy are driven by 5 names. Thx for playing though
Luke's idea of cutting Social Security is a good idea, but it doesn't go far enough. They should end Social Security, the Boomers that can't support themselves could be moved into some of the unused prisons that were never completed. Sort of an encampment where they could be fed and housed, some of the Boomers wouldn't want to go, so you would Implement a means test use the utilities company any Boomer that falls 60 days behind in his utility bills would be rounded up pets euthanize he could then spend his school years in the sanctuary prison in campment, and it would be a lot cheaper to feed them because we already own the prisons that aren't being used, and we could feed them crackers peanut butter, and cat food with Crisco oil
Or just live out in the woods like you?
Ironically you're an example of someone that won't be able to support themselves
low end customer is not struggling, they have went upscale.
Boring
Or simply have the wealthy pay their FAIR SHARE of taxes. Get rid of tax loopholes including how the rich pay into social security up to $160,000.
saying the fed reacted to a black swan event is disingenuous. covid was a joke for the vast majority of people who got it. the governments around the world created the supply chain issues and the economic collapsing. the fed came to the rescue for a problem that shouldn't have been there, and then they were buying mbs when cpi was already on the rise. Dan, you make good points most shows but listening to you talk about covid and the fed gives me a headache.
Nah they provided liquidity when needed and we are normalized now. Too bad ur still poor.
These guys are bullish for three years and then they capitulate! Pathetic. What has changed? Nothing
25:00 Dan mentions everything BUT the main cause: printing $5 trillion and handing it out. Dan is driven by narrative and ideology.