Doing a background check on the original writers shows it was created by great minds. It feels so atypical, no other fantasy universe can compare to it
It brought a smile to my face to see David Lynch’s runt ”Dune” brought up here. The book is a damm good read and movie is… thoroughly entertaining… I definitely noticed the inspirations for Morrowind both narratively and aestheticly in both when read the book and saw the film some years ago.
@@JayBMods Deffinitely a lot, I mean A LOT of influences from Moebius’ concept art for Jodorowsky. Also the silt striders are very similar to the sandorms in how they are ridden.
Vivec being shiv-shakti/shiva in general is so fascinating. I'm hindu/eclectic pagan and so much of the "weird" lore is just straight up mythology, pagan practices and dharmic faith. If anyone is interested in Kirkbride's writing please look into Shaivism, thelema, paganism specifically how all the gods are related, and gnosticism.
Tuatha, I swear that’s part of the phrase bal mora uses in her ritual in willow, and just now writing this realised her name is the same as the town in Morrowind
There are also undoubtedly influences and inspirations behind the idea of the Dragonborn. We have evidence of a Proto-Indo-European myth of a warrior called Trito, who was the first of the Dragon-Slayers. There are later versions of this mythic theme, such as the tale of Sigurd and his slaying of Fafnir. Sigurd bathes in the blood of the dragon through which he is able to learn the 'language of the birds," that is, the divine language of the Gods. Therein lies some inspiration behind the "Words of Power."
Also about the Frendar hunding and Miyamoto Musashi connection: the redguard term sword singer (ansei) in the elder scrolls is inspired by the real world term for the Japanese sword saints (kensei)
You could say that the Great war is similarly named like World war I. Also how the peace treaty or White-Gold Concordat. Caused many of the Nords to feel stabbed in the back by the Emperor. Like how some Germans believed that of the Kaiser for abdicating. The country leaving the war and signing the Armistice agreement. Also feeling that about some of their allies. Leading up to some believing that there would be another great war. Like what Tullius and others in game have said about it. A group that wants to lead their own people to glory. The Stormcloaks sounds like Germany after World war I. With the pro monarchist movements and anti ones. Like the divide between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks themselves.
Very true, I see similarities between the Thalmor and the Stormcloaks. With the Thalmor being the obvious worst aspects of things. Thalmor has been conquering and eliminating all enemies. While the Stormcloaks are still technically rising up against the Empire. Not yet an Empire of their own making. May make for some good headcannon tho.
I remember when Skyrim came out and I played for the first time, I told my dad about the Dragonborn and how awesome the shouts were. His eyes flashed, he smiled and said: "That's definetly inspired by Dune!" I was like : "What's Dune?" Amd then he showed me the Lynch movie and the rest was history.
Have you ever played Enderal? Its very well written, along with Nehrim, all of which based on a book series. You may enjoy it, as much as I enjoyed this video and learned so much! Thank you, these get me through my long nights at work🙏🏻
I’ve heard lots about it but never played it myself. Maybe one day I’ll get around to it. And thank you for the kind words! I’m glad I made something people could enjoy :)
@ceedott The lore and community is surprisingly extensive, if you get the chance, highly recommend playing it yourself! Of course, I look forward to your next video, already binging previous🤓
The people who made skyrim and are making these aberrations today are no longer the cool "nerds" who obsessed with ancient mythology and history. The people making these AAA games today are HR blue-haired ladies obsessed with modern ideology. Take a look at the new Dragon Age. It is downright sad, this so called "chaging of the guard".
Fun fact, Morrowind was the first dumbing down of the elder scrolls series. It went from a fully-fledged fantasy Life simulator with heavy RPG elements, to Just an rpg. 😅
My thoughts too. Could as well pull from the later Varangian Guard, who like the Dragonguard/Blades were also foreign warriors impressed with the splendor (and money) of the Emperor and his Capital
@Yallan true, but the Praetorians were first and the 'Reman' and 'Tiber' Septim Empires are clearly drawing from the early Roman Empire (Septim is also a Latin word).
3:20 I'm not sure if that's correct, considering Forgotten Realms is Ed Greenwood's pet setting and Wizards probably don't want his weirdo coomer Magical Realm™ being their primary setting. E: I looked it up, apparently Forgotten Realms IS the "default" setting for DnD which, again, is very surprising to me since Ed Greenwood is such a massive coomer.
forgotten realms is like the kitchen sink setting tho. also in 3.5 and before the assumed setting was Gary Gygaxes greyhawk but forgotten realms was really popular too which is why you see some gods and characters cross over from greyhawk to forgotten realms
Michael Kirkbride who wrote like 75% of the real interesting lore, especially in morrowind, has a phd in theology if that explains who was actually introducing a lot of the concepts. not saying hes the sole reason but i imagine the dude on the team who was studying religion for 8 years would probably be the guy inserting the more obscure or on the nose religious inspirations in their work
I agree that MK is responsible for the most interesting lore, but where are you getting that he has a phd in theology? He studied "creative writing, painting, and comparative religion" for 3 years, I can't find any source stating he went further into education.
Somethings I want to point: Glorantha is very unique in that it was written by an actual practicioner of Shamanism, and this influence from less mainstream (For the american and european target audience) religious practices can be seen very strongly in TES lore. Dunmer religion and specially The 36 Sermons of Vivec were heavily inspired Aleister Crowley's work and his own philosophy of Thelema, specially the Book of the Law. 36 Sermons even includes at least one section (The prayer Vivec uses to calm his mother in the 3rd Sermon) taken straight from The Book of The Law with only the names of egyptian deities changed to fit TES Lore. It's important, however, to point out that this specific section of the Book of the Law is taken originally from egyptian mortuary steele that while of little archeological and historical value otherwise is central do Crowley's beliefs. Also, the way each Sermon ends with "The ending of the words is ALMSIVI" mirrors how the Book of the Law ends with "The ending of the words is the Word Abrahadabra". And about the Great War and the Stormcloak rebellion. I think there is a strong inspiration from WW1 and the ideological conflicts of the Interwar period, maybe even a certain inspiration from the same pulp literature that gave us Indiana Jones but cast through a lens of fantasy. I think we can't really assign direct paralallels and Bethesda intended it to be this way given how the conflicts of the Interwar period and WW2 still influence us so heavily today but I've always felt that the White-Gold Concordat is equivalent to the Treaty of Versailles and that either the Empire as a whole or the province of Skyrim are equivalent to the Weimar Republic. I would stop short, however, of trying to assign any equivalents to the sides of the Civil War.
While reading about the Buddhist god of time & destruction Mahākāla, and his many names, interpretations across cultures, as well with his association with the Hindu Shiva, my mind clicked with Alduin and Akatosh. They share essentially the same roles, superficially at least
It is divinely inspired. Because the concept of kim is different from enlightenment. It is an illumination of sorts, but it is a different take on what is done when such a realization comes.
I thought that Tiber Septim's name came from the river Tiber, as you claim, but Ted Peterson said in an interview that it actually comes from emperor Tiberius
I think a more accurate description than "mesopotamians" is probably "Sumerians" or "Babylonians" mesopotamians werent one group of people, you still had Amorites and Moabites in the same region
Mesopotamians would be an appropriate term, as Sumeria, Babylon, Etc. were not all around at the same time and at the same place. A more general term works well here.
I think Vivec's teachings are based on a mixture of gnosticism and zen buddhism. Look up the phrase, "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." Look at what it actually means. I see some potential similarities there.
As one person on Reddit put it, "It means whatever you think the buddha is, whatever idea you have of 'buddha', that is not it. Kill that idea, keep going." Furthermore, "Reach heaven by violence then" is derived from Gnostic views of the Gospel of Matthew. And Kirkbride has stated he is a Gnostic heretic. And one more thing, Lorkhan bears a lot of similarities to the Gnostic demiurge.
High elf views on Lorkhan are absurdly similar. And the Thalmor take that to an absurd degree as a form of religious extremism, since the lore states they are basically trying to unmake the world, and want to return to their spiritual form by destroying the towers across Tamriel (and possibly abroad, but I don't know if any exist outside of Tamriel), with Lorkhan having created the world as a prison for them.
The people who made skyrim and are making these aberrations today are no longer the cool "nerds" who obsessed with ancient mythology and history. The people making these AAA games today are HR blue-haired ladies obsessed with modern ideology. Take a look at the new Dragon Age. It is downright sad, this so called "chaging of the guard".
Doing a background check on the original writers shows it was created by great minds. It feels so atypical, no other fantasy universe can compare to it
It brought a smile to my face to see David Lynch’s runt ”Dune” brought up here. The book is a damm good read and movie is… thoroughly entertaining… I definitely noticed the inspirations for Morrowind both narratively and aestheticly in both when read the book and saw the film some years ago.
Yeah when I first read it I couldn't help but think about how similar it felt to Morrowind lol
You can clearly see the influence from Frank Herbert and Jodorowski in a lot of MK’s concept art too
Serving Runt.
@@JayBMods Deffinitely a lot, I mean A LOT of influences from Moebius’ concept art for Jodorowsky. Also the silt striders are very similar to the sandorms in how they are ridden.
Vivec being shiv-shakti/shiva in general is so fascinating. I'm hindu/eclectic pagan and so much of the "weird" lore is just straight up mythology, pagan practices and dharmic faith. If anyone is interested in Kirkbride's writing please look into Shaivism, thelema, paganism specifically how all the gods are related, and gnosticism.
Om nama shiva,outlander.
@ hare hare mahadev n’wah
3:07 Ogma is a member of the Tuatha de danann, which are Irish Gaelic gods. Fun fact 'Ogdma' is actually the runic language invented by the god Ogma.
Tuatha, I swear that’s part of the phrase bal mora uses in her ritual in willow, and just now writing this realised her name is the same as the town in Morrowind
There are also undoubtedly influences and inspirations behind the idea of the Dragonborn. We have evidence of a Proto-Indo-European myth of a warrior called Trito, who was the first of the Dragon-Slayers. There are later versions of this mythic theme, such as the tale of Sigurd and his slaying of Fafnir. Sigurd bathes in the blood of the dragon through which he is able to learn the 'language of the birds," that is, the divine language of the Gods. Therein lies some inspiration behind the "Words of Power."
Peak TES video is back on the menu, boys!
Also about the Frendar hunding and Miyamoto Musashi connection: the redguard term sword singer (ansei) in the elder scrolls is inspired by the real world term for the Japanese sword saints (kensei)
I thought sword singing was a fantasy concept in general....😅
Ive come to relish your unique take on TES. Well known games that have complex lore, that is often overlooked!
You could say that the Great war is similarly named like World war I. Also how the peace treaty or White-Gold Concordat. Caused many of the Nords to feel stabbed in the back by the Emperor. Like how some Germans believed that of the Kaiser for abdicating. The country leaving the war and signing the Armistice agreement. Also feeling that about some of their allies. Leading up to some believing that there would be another great war. Like what Tullius and others in game have said about it. A group that wants to lead their own people to glory. The Stormcloaks sounds like Germany after World war I. With the pro monarchist movements and anti ones. Like the divide between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks themselves.
I was looking for this comment. It’s also worth mentioning how the thalmor are pretty blatant nazi analogs
Very true, I see similarities between the Thalmor and the Stormcloaks. With the Thalmor being the obvious worst aspects of things. Thalmor has been conquering and eliminating all enemies. While the Stormcloaks are still technically rising up against the Empire. Not yet an Empire of their own making. May make for some good headcannon tho.
Awesome video bro, keep up all the good work
I read about he khajiit and argonian name origins like less an hour before this video got posted... lol
I remember when Skyrim came out and I played for the first time, I told my dad about the Dragonborn and how awesome the shouts were.
His eyes flashed, he smiled and said: "That's definetly inspired by Dune!"
I was like : "What's Dune?"
Amd then he showed me the Lynch movie and the rest was history.
Have you ever played Enderal? Its very well written, along with Nehrim, all of which based on a book series.
You may enjoy it, as much as I enjoyed this video and learned so much! Thank you, these get me through my long nights at work🙏🏻
I’ve heard lots about it but never played it myself. Maybe one day I’ll get around to it. And thank you for the kind words! I’m glad I made something people could enjoy :)
@ceedott The lore and community is surprisingly extensive, if you get the chance, highly recommend playing it yourself!
Of course, I look forward to your next video, already binging previous🤓
This is what made Morrowind peak: a variery of inspirations from religion to scifi. This is what's missing from modern Bethesda writing.
The people who made skyrim and are making these aberrations today are no longer the cool "nerds" who obsessed with ancient mythology and history. The people making these AAA games today are HR blue-haired ladies obsessed with modern ideology. Take a look at the new Dragon Age. It is downright sad, this so called "chaging of the guard".
Fun fact, Morrowind was the first dumbing down of the elder scrolls series. It went from a fully-fledged fantasy Life simulator with heavy RPG elements, to Just an rpg. 😅
@@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 you've never touched a woman in your life
I was just asking wizards and warriors the kings and generals channel to do this exact thing so well done to you!
Pretty sure the Blades are inspired by the Praetorian Guard, with aesthetic samurai influence
My thoughts too. Could as well pull from the later Varangian Guard, who like the Dragonguard/Blades were also foreign warriors impressed with the splendor (and money) of the Emperor and his Capital
@Yallan true, but the Praetorians were first and the 'Reman' and 'Tiber' Septim Empires are clearly drawing from the early Roman Empire
(Septim is also a Latin word).
wonderful vid
very good vid
3:20 I'm not sure if that's correct, considering Forgotten Realms is Ed Greenwood's pet setting and Wizards probably don't want his weirdo coomer Magical Realm™ being their primary setting.
E: I looked it up, apparently Forgotten Realms IS the "default" setting for DnD which, again, is very surprising to me since Ed Greenwood is such a massive coomer.
forgotten realms is like the kitchen sink setting tho. also in 3.5 and before the assumed setting was Gary Gygaxes greyhawk but forgotten realms was really popular too which is why you see some gods and characters cross over from greyhawk to forgotten realms
10:40 Mount WHAT?
Mount Hawk Tuah
What? ....
... aha!
Michael Kirkbride who wrote like 75% of the real interesting lore, especially in morrowind, has a phd in theology if that explains who was actually introducing a lot of the concepts. not saying hes the sole reason but i imagine the dude on the team who was studying religion for 8 years would probably be the guy inserting the more obscure or on the nose religious inspirations in their work
I agree that MK is responsible for the most interesting lore, but where are you getting that he has a phd in theology? He studied "creative writing, painting, and comparative religion" for 3 years, I can't find any source stating he went further into education.
@@warlockelder yeah my bad the source i read just says he has a degree in theology it does not specify what kind
Somethings I want to point: Glorantha is very unique in that it was written by an actual practicioner of Shamanism, and this influence from less mainstream (For the american and european target audience) religious practices can be seen very strongly in TES lore.
Dunmer religion and specially The 36 Sermons of Vivec were heavily inspired Aleister Crowley's work and his own philosophy of Thelema, specially the Book of the Law. 36 Sermons even includes at least one section (The prayer Vivec uses to calm his mother in the 3rd Sermon) taken straight from The Book of The Law with only the names of egyptian deities changed to fit TES Lore. It's important, however, to point out that this specific section of the Book of the Law is taken originally from egyptian mortuary steele that while of little archeological and historical value otherwise is central do Crowley's beliefs. Also, the way each Sermon ends with "The ending of the words is ALMSIVI" mirrors how the Book of the Law ends with "The ending of the words is the Word Abrahadabra".
And about the Great War and the Stormcloak rebellion. I think there is a strong inspiration from WW1 and the ideological conflicts of the Interwar period, maybe even a certain inspiration from the same pulp literature that gave us Indiana Jones but cast through a lens of fantasy. I think we can't really assign direct paralallels and Bethesda intended it to be this way given how the conflicts of the Interwar period and WW2 still influence us so heavily today but I've always felt that the White-Gold Concordat is equivalent to the Treaty of Versailles and that either the Empire as a whole or the province of Skyrim are equivalent to the Weimar Republic. I would stop short, however, of trying to assign any equivalents to the sides of the Civil War.
I could live in the spew between fantasy and reality forever.
While reading about the Buddhist god of time & destruction Mahākāla, and his many names, interpretations across cultures, as well with his association with the Hindu Shiva, my mind clicked with Alduin and Akatosh. They share essentially the same roles, superficially at least
To derive Khajit from kenjutsu one would have to know nothing about the Japanese language >_>
It is divinely inspired. Because the concept of kim is different from enlightenment.
It is an illumination of sorts, but it is a different take on what is done when such a realization comes.
Damn, great video. Do you happen to have a discord server?
I thought that Tiber Septim's name came from the river Tiber, as you claim, but Ted Peterson said in an interview that it actually comes from emperor Tiberius
Ask yourself what the origin of the name Tiberius is ☝️🤓
I think a more accurate description than "mesopotamians" is probably "Sumerians" or "Babylonians" mesopotamians werent one group of people, you still had Amorites and Moabites in the same region
Mesopotamians would be an appropriate term, as Sumeria, Babylon, Etc. were not all around at the same time and at the same place. A more general term works well here.
Forgotten Realms wasn't the default setting for D&D until 5th edition
RUclips didn't notify me about this, very lame.
How tf is Orcus a trademarked name? It was literally a Roman God...
I was wondering the same
I think Vivec's teachings are based on a mixture of gnosticism and zen buddhism.
Look up the phrase, "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." Look at what it actually means. I see some potential similarities there.
As one person on Reddit put it, "It means whatever you think the buddha is, whatever idea you have of 'buddha', that is not it. Kill that idea, keep going."
Furthermore, "Reach heaven by violence then" is derived from Gnostic views of the Gospel of Matthew. And Kirkbride has stated he is a Gnostic heretic.
And one more thing, Lorkhan bears a lot of similarities to the Gnostic demiurge.
High elf views on Lorkhan are absurdly similar. And the Thalmor take that to an absurd degree as a form of religious extremism, since the lore states they are basically trying to unmake the world, and want to return to their spiritual form by destroying the towers across Tamriel (and possibly abroad, but I don't know if any exist outside of Tamriel), with Lorkhan having created the world as a prison for them.
first?
The people who made skyrim and are making these aberrations today are no longer the cool "nerds" who obsessed with ancient mythology and history. The people making these AAA games today are HR blue-haired ladies obsessed with modern ideology. Take a look at the new Dragon Age. It is downright sad, this so called "chaging of the guard".
Pretty thorough research, but that AI voice is rough.
Thats not AI
That’s just his voice man
He does pronounce some stuff like Pelagius as if he never heard it in game, but I think it's just a guy