I agree with everything you've said and I've been getting some of these thoughts now a days ever since I've reached my mid-30s. I have an idea that for every old age home, an orphanage should be present in same campus or adjacent campus so that the old ones and the young ones interact on a daily basis and revitalize each other.
I have been thinking over the subject for a long time. Being childless couple, me and my wife wish to settle in Senior Living society few years hence. Senior living is a fairly new concept in India. There quie a number of such societies in various places. My take on the subject is as per following: 1. Seniors require company of like minded people rather than Shanti. 2. Senior living could be in big cities or Tier 2 cities where decent medical facilities are existing or will come up in due course. 3. People in 60 to 75 years of age will have great time. Aspects of taking care of people who need advance medical attention and management of finances needs to be taken care of. One way out is that among the society younger and active people take care of others who need assistance. Purely in management of resources I.e. controlling of support staff, medical attention, finance etc. An Eco System needs to be developed in which younger member take care of elders. There could be nominated Care Taker who keeps track of a set of people. 4. Legal Assistance in management of will, finances etc also needs to be taken care of. 5. Government on its part should also formulate Senior living friendly policies and incentives. 6. Senior Living is the future for most of us. I am expecting positive developments on this.
Really well experiences shared. We are Thankful for better advice to young and older generation who think differently while purchasing properties and also thinking about the concept of shifting to old age homes.😊
Sir - You are without children so your thinking is of one type. What is your observation of seniors who have children yet who live in senior citizen home (old age home) for whatever reasons.
Ur views are correct. I feel govt or a trust should be set up with reliable people to help senior citizens like accompanying them for shopping, movies doctor banks etc other daily chores of lives and bring them back safely. Seniors also need a person to be kept 24 hrs of the day. But when either of the spouse expires it is still more difficult to discuss matters. So a good lawyer a good doctor immediate hospital near by such facilities should be set up for senior citizens for a middle class families. Now so long they stay at a particular place and are familiar with people around and now they find themselves in a situation where they find difficult to cook move around fast for daily chores like paying bills etc. so such organisation should come up with help all under one roof, so senior citizen can call them and the office can attend to the queries, some may need immediate action. Even staying at senior citizen apartment it has its plus and minus. Some may like cosmopolitan atmosphere, even same community people may or may not follow all festivals, over the years one must hv formed their own lifestyle, but at senior citizen places we have to be time bounded as food is served at particular time but if in their home one goes as per their liking. Like this several aspects are there. One has to think clearly and take decision. For this also need help, if near and dear ones take advantage of situation Big question mark???
Hello Sir, this is regarding Shanthi. I totally agree with you that living with mixed generations is a good idea because when a senior joins a younger group, the mind, and emotions will be that of a youngster. Senior citizen homes must be a mixed group of all ages, giving the bottom 4 or 5 floors to only seniors.
Very timely video. As correctly summarized by you this product is more appealing to parents of NRI children who need to be in convenient as well as accessible place. I am nearing retirement from central government and have been for past 8 months visiting and researching the good senior citizen living complexs from major builders. However I have been unable to invest and go ahead due to the following major issues- 1. Their distance from the main city therby compromising our accessibility to specialized medical care. 2 Complete lack of access to CGHS facilities 3. Complete lack of access to outside life like nearby movie theaters/ malls etc. . 4. The long distances from Main city making it impossible for friends/ relatives to visit or you to plan a visit to them. All these above points have been well covered in your video. Excellent content and research done by you.!!
Very important issue for Sr. Citizen,, there are so many questions , to look in to the matter, In detail,if one partner is passed away, there will be more difficulties, for such Sr..person .. they required love, peace, company service, attachments, even they have sufficient property, money, but, they required,.family love,, ...Very typical issue , we can not think about this future events... God help every body...
The difference in parents n children looking after each other point is right . But we Indians are emotional extremes , seriously we need to speak more about this. Personally the people who are in 50s or 60s are sandwich gen ,the last gen who is still looking after their super senior citizens and 1st gen who listens to children
Very deep and intricate subject Sir. I think exclusive senior citizen living is not feasible and has a lot of problems with existing ones without proper regulation and accountability of the operators. Solution might lie in integrating with existing housing colonies. Also working young gen might need a lot of good child day care facilities where these senior citizens can pitch in and live in a sort of mutual cooperation.
सर आप ने जिन्दगी की बहुत सही कहानी बताई। परन्तु जब यही जिन्दगी की सच्चाई है,तो मन के भटकाव पर लगाम लगाना जरूरी है।जीतना महसुस करोगे उतना कठिन होता जाएगा।मेरी जीन्दगी इसी दौर मे चल रही है।आपकी हर बात 100%सही है।बच्चे भी तो बुज़ुर्ग हो रहे है
I am observing 70 years plus people from 2002 onward in Janakpuri, Anand Niketan, Shantiniketan a over hundred farmhouses in Chhatarpur, Bijwasan & Rajokari areas of Delhi. Your analysis is good. Some aspects need more attention. Delhi's demography suggest that UP wala population in Delhi is over 60% and prefer Noida- Greater Noida - Ghaziabad over Haryana location for residence. 4th or 5th generation people who are NRI and whose parents are residing in posh or super posh colony of Delhi , they prefer Gurgaon over UP, similarly 20 % combined population of Delhi, whose origin is either Haryana or Rajsthan, they prefer Haryana. Remaining population has mixed thoughts. Recreation and Dispensary play a great role. Near by CGHS Dispensary attracts central government employees, nearby insurance empanelled hospital attracts creamy layer of Delhi population. Old age home clusters in periphery of Delhi and other mega metro will be required more to cater 74 years plus people in coming years. Currently it has scope in thousands but after 20 years it will be in lakhs. After demise of old people, how that property will go to inheritance and demography will be maintained in old age home.
100% correct. Need senior citizen homes like normal homes in big cities itself. Big cities have already become extremely convenient. Definitely much more convenient than tier 2/3 cities
Your suggestion about such facilities should be in big cities having specialized medical care is real valid suggestion. I had not thought from this point of view. Thanks for your wisdom.
Sir , I always look upto your no nonsense , balanced and logical views in our Indian context. The old age homes need to be economically viable also . Sr.citizens also should not expect ALL their expectations to be fulfilled. Baki you have covered everything.
Your view that old age home should be in surroundings which you are familiar with is absolutely true. People are fooled by brochures stating Doctors on call. Ideal thing for a labour intensive society like ours is to create a new career path for youngsters of geriatric care and companionship.
I agree with you points. I would like to add that any one above 40 years of age should take care of there physical health. I'll be most important investment they can give to there future.
Really thought provoking video sir.. Discussed in detail.. But i think your ideas shared in previous videos like staying nearby and taking care of parents sounds logical.. People can choose to stay in same place or same building in different units and live happily.
sir is talking the realistic issues, really long life is a suffering, especially the single elders in next 10-15-20 years is very much realistic, nothing matches the luck of those who have family and living with them, takign care of their needs, running their errands etc, the funny reality at the end is right - "pahaad par rahne ka shanthi"
There are a lot of assisted living facilities around Coimbatore and they are in good demand in the south. As you said a lot of parents left behind by NRI children are opting for these. if you move there in your 60s, you can make friends and fall into their routine. They also have programs for fitness and in house temple etc. But as you said I don't know how people over 80 would feel living in such facilities.
I am 35 and a single mom. and yes I will definitely buy myself a flat for my post retirement. we are the generation of mostly 1 child so we should plan for our old age, scary for me 🥺🥺. Also from haryana.
Hi excellent analysis. Appreciate the time you have taken time to educate people looking ahead for their old age survival. This is a very important lesson for people already in their 50s and 60s. The ideal situation is for a mixture of normal and senior citizens living in a complex.
I didn’t talk to someone from old generation, I screwed up on your presentation, and found it absolutely genuine and prudent. Thank you for sharing this wonderful initiative.
Thanks for details sir.its v eye opening.reality is v different than fantasy.life is becoming v difficult which we never thought in our Young age.the society has changed so much.no body has the time for Sr citizen.suddenly to face isolation v depressing.now I have to rethink about my future being lady alone.thank up v much sir.
One aspect that needs to be considered is that when the older generation passes away disposal of assisted living property becomes a problem. Most such communities have a minimum age requirement for residents hence choice of buyers is limited as compared to a regular apartment complex. This is mentioned in many studies of such properties abroad. In fact they recommend renting so that the hiers are not burdened with the problem of finding a suitable buyer. Also a couple may take a larger flat but when only 1 person is left a smaller place might be better. So some communities give the option of moving to a smaller place when necessary. Another aspect is that as you say far from the city can also cause problems- medical, lack of various facilities close by and you become totally dependent on the staff of the community. This loss of independence can also be an issue for some people.
Best solution is, to keep ground floors in buildings for senior citizens with provisions of wheel chairs accessible and hand railing in bathrooms etc….
You are absolutely right,on each and every aspect,be it retirement home,psych of senior citizens and so on.Being a senior citizen myself, I am 68 yrs.old, I can relate to all that you said here,in this vlog.Thank you so much.
Very interesting video. I totally agree with your and Dinesh Kudwa ji, s comments that solution lies within in the existing societies. Only thing is to explore this aspect while launching new projects by builders to accommodate such flats with facilities required for senior citizens. Your views for development of eco system is worth.
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Very apt treatment of the sensitive subject. It’s time that nuclear family now turns to associate families - like father and son families in different flats but in same society. That way most things can be taken care.
Very nice thinking. I am bujurg of 69 +, I am thinking of sr citizen homes like in coimbatur. Now after hearing your views I have to re think for next 15 20 years. In some places rental option exists. I think that should become affordable. I feel still, shanti chahiye. I have seen most of your vidios on relationship conflicts. 🙏
I agree and another thing in USA and other countries, senior citizen homes are rental and are expensive, as manpower is expensive there. In India the concept is new but more communities (existing) should have associations who can provide assistane to convert a flat into senior citizen friendly , like providing paid services to regularly get attendance of senior citizens, their wellbeing , in case of emergency thier kids are informed and sent them to hospital, one ambulance in each society, camera emergency buttons in each room, antiskid tiles , camera in drawing room etc. this will not isolate senior citizens. And someone suggested , senior citizen homes should be next to orphanage and gaushala where those who can , can help those in need , it will be mutual affection , in return will get positive energy.
Dear you have beautifully discussed seniors living in details. Seniors can't stand extremely cold or hot weather. You mentioned Dehradun it appears you not stayed there both seasons are extremes in Dehradun so I suggest only 3 cities have good weather around the year these are Bangalore, pune .Bangalore is very good city having all best medical facilities and best weather conditions. There is plenty of seniors living places. One should go there stay for some time if comfortable One should opet for this place. It's true we in India wants to live nearby to our kith and kins but they are so busy in taking care of their jobs and their own families and have no time to call you or wish good morning morning. When you are criticality ill It's hospitals hospitals like vedanta,fortis, sir Ganga ram hospital,max,to mention a few .Apollo hospital is also good. I feel One should be emotionally attached to ones own self ( body) .Financial security is a must. Remain pure vegetarian, no drinking and smoking, do meditation Remain busy in reading books of your choice and subject. I am 87 still by God's grace I am hale and hearty can take care of myself. My son is most caring loving and affectionate to me but his business is of hotel and restaurant in Goa where his presence is essential during day time at least and I don't expect that he should spend some time with me. So we at this age should not expect any thing from anyone at all. Most important is Financial security. My wife was paralyzed on the day i retired. As I had great time and love for her i looked after her for 16 years none else had time though I had 6 children. She passed away 2010. I'm suffering from prostate cancer under treatment with PGI chandigarh fully Under control. Angioplasty was done on 11th February 2022 in medical college Goa .Now no problem. I planned several times to shift to such seniors care homes ,my son is very practical when tempted by wonderful vedios of heavenly palace ludhiana i decided to live there because greatest problem is getting good domestic helps and I live alone in Himachal pradesh from March till October and in Goa with my son from November till Feb. My son took me to heavenly palace ludhiana and I was shocked to see the reality. Most dangerous thing was one khalistani was there abusing Hindus and administration helpless to take any action. I found it an totally commercial institute. Very congested, only medical and physiotherapy facilities available. Anyway I suggest first select place where can enjoy weather conditions not to be tempted or dependence on vedios. When you love yourself and keep Financial security you need not to worry what shall happen when I fell criticality ill .if any senior citizen interested to talk to me on this subject he can contact me at my mobile number 93572 49407
Agreed with all your views I am 62 still working most probably will work till 65 by god grace and a divorce and have one son was always planning for old age home but realised two points maan nahi lagta and when you are really need care they don’t have that facilities
I agree with the critical examination of the subject and views expressed. Keeping in view the size of the family it will be difficult for the child to look after his old parents even if likes to look after. There is no option but go to sr. Citizen homes which may provide all services for assisted living of course on payment basis
I have been caring for my parents and many of my friend's parents whose children are settled out of India. Seeing the potential of assisted living, I have decided to build an apartment for seniors with all the facilities required. I have also realized that one day, I will require such a place to live if my children move away from home. So, I'm building this Assisted living apartment with most of my friends as buyers for our own future. But still, your thoughts are quite deep and very helpful to work on the process. Thank you.
Excellent presentation on retirement homes. You have a comprehensive vision on this topic. I would like to add one aspect regarding buying the property. I really don’t understand the concept of buying a retirement home, instead it should be a rental one, so that the one who runs the show will have interest in serving the seniors living there. If one feels that the atmosphere/ service provided is not good, they should be able to leave with due notice. I’m 65 years of age and feel that ultimately such facilities are very much needed. Keep updating on this subject
In Pune their are Aathashree sinear citizens homes they are better but not all facilities what you are now'discussed thanks useful for old people who are retired
Aptly said It’s a call of the day now and things are required to be settled down instead of being emotional and dependent on our children we must decide about our retirement life asap
Absolutely right. Old age brings lot of medical and psychological problems. Emotional insecurities are always there. Money is there but does not solve problems. Care by outside help is becoming dangerous because of crime rise. This is a maze difficult to solve.
The decision to shift to such places for sr. citizens stay should be taken at sixty. Spouse didn't like the idea. however I gave her the option to agree or disagree to start the innings after visiting such place. We visited Heavenly Palace at Doraha in Punjab. She liked the place but is pending action. The place is too good. There are more than 400 rooms n 3-4 options from 25 thousands INR to 75 thousands INR per month. I have one son one daughter; son shifted to Canada with his wife n 2 sons. having own floor in Delhi; Daughter also in Delhi married. Rest You can assess. You are really helping general masses.Regards. I
@@AnkitKumar-kk3iw mai 28 ki Umar me 15k per month kama Raha hu ,shadi abhi nahi Hui hai, itta kam kamane Wale se koi karegi v nahi.mere dost Canada ja rahe the 2018 me afsos ho raha hai mujhe chale Jana chahiye tha. Yaar India me govt. Job mile tab hi sahi hai private me Kam paise milte hai and kaam v bahot jyada karwate hai and job ki v koi guarantee nahi hai. Log mazboori me India chhod kar chale jaate hai
It is not a product of future but today. It will not only generate a lot of employment but also an option of community living for people who are filthy rich but alone due to numerous reasons. It would be better if project tie up with some hospitals and provide facilities like ambulance etc. It's a win win for ALL
You are absolutely right. Very well discussed all pros n cons. It may be good where children actually become indifferent towards their parents. Though parents can never abandon their children, at some point they hv to take a decision to shift to a place where they will be looked after. Only that much may give them some mental peace. Also, this buying a senior living or taking huge deposits concept is 100% wrong. I feel just fleecing money. These should be available on rental basis with extra expenses on major medical conditions. Govt cn also think of providing group med insurance for such seniors living together at some nominal cost paid by residents. Concept is good but making money out of this noble cause is really bad. Max senior living costs 2-3Cr in NOIDA!! That is just d accommodation.
Amazing video. All of it is common sense, but the funny thing is in today's world it has become so hard to hear someone talking in basic sense. Being out of india, i see good demand of assisted living in india for parents.
Sir, I highly appreciate ur opinion, I'm a senior citizen myself, yes we Indians r emotional n do require our children as we can't be detached fm them after a bond of so many yrs, Hence it's advisable for children to understand exactly that we only require their care n concern for us.
well lots have changed i believe this is a very good product, as the parents are buying this to secure there futire living, funds issues can be resolved by reverse mortgage . when the person is not able to pay, then he can use his appartment for reverse mortgage. kids will still have opportunity to get the balance of the house after paying for the bank interest.
I am in this particular situation. I and husband are 61 and 62 yrs respectively, and have looked after both sets of parents through out our lives . Now only my mother is alive(96 complete) and she has always lived with us.We both our thoroughly tired of looking after her in a city like Mumbai. Our only son is 28 not yet married , and not yet settled in the US. We have started looking for old age home for ourselves but unable to decide where to go! We want to move into one when we reach 70 years of age.
I know how difficult it is to take care of aged people, when we we ourselves are senior citizens. I am 63, me and my husband took care of my mother in law, till last year. She was 93 when she passed away.... Before that my bed ridden mother was with us for a few years. It is truely tiring.
Swatiparekh, if you wish to go to a senior citizens home then don't wait till you become 70, you start looking for one immediately after 60. Because it really is a time taking & then thinking process. Me & husband visited a few near Mumbai & realised if we can live there or not! Most of these places allow you to stay there for a few days by paying there charges. So just go there, eat their food, see how things are working, how far it is from Mumbai, what about nearest medical facilities etc. If you find one, please inform us.
Very well explained. This would be future and written on the wall. I foresee and echo the same views. Your bring 30 years ahead things and discuss such pragmatic issues.
Excellent thoughts which are very practical. We do not want to disturb our children's career. They are facing so many issues in their life. I am also looking for a senior citizen apartment in Thane, Maharashtra.
good video Just that we need to see how good are these products Recently i checked one out, it out side of town planning area & they said it's not Rera covered😲 Multi speciality hospital needs to be nearby considering age group... Udvada Gujarat me ek Adhaar home hai, absolutely good support for Golden years citizen Yeh concept bahut acha hai 🙏
Our parents were not happy in city and we are not want to go village in old age 😇😇😇 so har society me ek alag tower bnao one bedroom ka jisme old age friendly furniture hona chahiye 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 subah park me apne grandchildren k sath khel kar apne flat vaapis chle jaye or khud k hisaab se life jine ka hak sabko h ji bahu bhi khus rehegi or har buyer ko ye ek flat khreedna jaruri ho discount rate pe milna chahiye / jis tower ka naam golden tower rakhna chahiye 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂 👵👴👵👴👵👴🕵
Hii, I'm retired govt officer, my name is Shashikant Barot residing with my son in Mumbai, Andheri. I'm 65 yrs old my wife is 55. Hum sab happily bachcho ke sath yahan rahte hai. Mera apna Ghar hai virar me jise maine rent per de rakha hai, Muje pension mil Rahi hai ( 50 k ) aur Ghar ka kiraya ( 15 k ) + native me bhi city me ek makan hai aur encestor house gaon me hai jise marammat kar ke Naya banane ka plan hai. Hum Miya Bibi ye soch rahe thei ki ab hum apne flat me rahne chale jate hai, akele rahne ka bhi Anand uthate hai, aur gaon ka Ghar bhi hai, ate jate rahenge, samay pasar ho jayenga. Aaj apka vedio dekha aur suna maine phir thoda soch me pad gaya, kya bete aur bachchon ko chhod kar akele rahne ka vichar kahi galat to nahi hoga. Beta katai nahi chahta ki hum akele rahe. Bahu shayad khush ho sakti hai ki Hume bhi apni life indipendently jeene ka mauka milega aur bachchon ke saath age tarakki kar sakte hai. Aapke vichar sune aur achcha laga. Aapki Rai agar de sako to Khushi hogi.
I am 66 and wouldn't prefer to go to Senior citizens home.. Lots of negative energy as you rightly said... Better to be in your own flat if you are able to live by yourself
Aap ne samasya ki bilkool thik nabz pakri hai hamare bachhe itne bhi bure nahi hote bas aapni majburion me jakre hote hai papi pet ka sawal h aagar old age homes ko nearby full-fledged hospitals ke sath attached Kiya ja sake just like ews qotas in school admissions tab oldage homes shahar ke vibhinn jagaho me banaye ja sakte hain
Oldage home ke sare log ek hi sath to seriously bomar nahi ho jate do char log he ek time me jyada bimar ho sakte hain baki chhoti pareshani to attached docter hi sambhal sakte hain
Sir you are speaking reality and please keep doing many videos
Thanks
Gurgaon mei kha khride, we are 70+ couple. Ek se 1.5 crore tek ki range mei
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My question also same. Same budget and same age my husband 71 and my age 66
Sir i like your discussion and I think it's also same . I live in gurgoan. But no system for middle class cenior citizen so high rang here. Suggest us
I agree with everything you've said and I've been getting some of these thoughts now a days ever since I've reached my mid-30s. I have an idea that for every old age home, an orphanage should be present in same campus or adjacent campus so that the old ones and the young ones interact on a daily basis and revitalize each other.
Very important issue
Big cities developer must have one tower for seniors compulsorily
Thanks for this very important response
Within each builder society we should start creating facilities for old age assisted living.
I have been thinking over the subject for a long time. Being childless couple, me and my wife wish to settle in Senior Living society few years hence. Senior living is a fairly new concept in India. There quie a number of such societies in various places. My take on the subject is as per following:
1. Seniors require company of like minded people rather than Shanti.
2. Senior living could be in big cities or Tier 2 cities where decent medical facilities are existing or will come up in due course.
3. People in 60 to 75 years of age will have great time. Aspects of taking care of people who need advance medical attention and management of finances needs to be taken care of. One way out is that among the society younger and active people take care of others who need assistance. Purely in management of resources I.e. controlling of support staff, medical attention, finance etc. An Eco System needs to be developed in which younger member take care of elders. There could be nominated Care Taker who keeps track of a set of people.
4. Legal Assistance in management of will, finances etc also needs to be taken care of.
5. Government on its part should also formulate Senior living friendly policies and incentives.
6. Senior Living is the future for most of us. I am expecting positive developments on this.
Really well experiences shared. We are Thankful for better advice to young and older generation who think differently while purchasing properties and also thinking about the concept of shifting to old age homes.😊
Consider calling yourselves a childfree couple instead of childless couple
Sir - You are without children so your thinking is of one type. What is your observation of seniors who have children yet who live in senior citizen home (old age home) for whatever reasons.
@rvigsn, we are in the same situation & have same views.
Ur views are correct. I feel govt or a trust should be set up with reliable people to help senior citizens like accompanying them for shopping, movies doctor banks etc other daily chores of lives and bring them back safely. Seniors also need a person to be kept 24 hrs of the day. But when either of the spouse expires it is still more difficult to discuss matters. So a good lawyer a good doctor immediate hospital near by such facilities should be set up for senior citizens for a middle class families. Now so long they stay at a particular place and are familiar with people around and now they find themselves in a situation where they find difficult to cook move around fast for daily chores like paying bills etc. so such organisation should come up with help all under one roof, so senior citizen can call them and the office can attend to the queries, some may need immediate action. Even staying at senior citizen apartment it has its plus and minus. Some may like cosmopolitan atmosphere, even same community people may or may not follow all festivals, over the years one must hv formed their own lifestyle, but at senior citizen places we have to be time bounded as food is served at particular time but if in their home one goes as per their liking. Like this several aspects are there. One has to think clearly and take decision. For this also need help, if near and dear ones take advantage of situation Big question mark???
In South India there are plenty of senior citizen's resorts and homes. It started first at Coimbatore, TN. It's spreading all over. Demand is there
South Indians are more practical in terms of relationships
V well said Sir. I m 60 +. This kind of plan i m hvg in my mind but people laugh on my idea. Hats off.
Hello Sir, this is regarding Shanthi. I totally agree with you that living with mixed generations is a good idea because when a senior joins a younger group, the mind, and emotions will be that of a youngster. Senior citizen homes must be a mixed group of all ages, giving the bottom 4 or 5 floors to only seniors.
I (77)asked myself-I now prefer roadside residence to avoid loneliness .Fantastic observation yours is !
Very timely video. As correctly summarized by you this product is more appealing to parents of NRI children who need to be in convenient as well as accessible place. I am nearing retirement from central government and have been for past 8 months visiting and researching the good senior citizen living complexs from major builders. However I have been unable to invest and go ahead due to the following major issues- 1. Their distance from the main city therby compromising our accessibility to specialized medical care. 2 Complete lack of access to CGHS facilities 3. Complete lack of access to outside life like nearby movie theaters/ malls etc. . 4. The long distances from Main city making it impossible for friends/ relatives to visit or you to plan a visit to them. All these above points have been well covered in your video. Excellent content and research done by you.!!
Very important issue for Sr. Citizen,, there are so many questions , to look in to the matter, In detail,if one partner is passed away, there will be more difficulties, for such Sr..person .. they required love, peace, company service, attachments, even they have sufficient property, money, but, they required,.family love,, ...Very typical issue , we can not think about this future events... God help every body...
The difference in parents n children looking after each other point is right . But we Indians are emotional extremes , seriously we need to speak more about this. Personally the people who are in 50s or 60s are sandwich gen ,the last gen who is still looking after their super senior citizens and 1st gen who listens to children
Very deep and intricate subject Sir. I think exclusive senior citizen living is not feasible and has a lot of problems with existing ones without proper regulation and accountability of the operators. Solution might lie in integrating with existing housing colonies. Also working young gen might need a lot of good child day care facilities where these senior citizens can pitch in and live in a sort of mutual cooperation.
सर आप ने जिन्दगी की बहुत सही कहानी बताई। परन्तु जब यही जिन्दगी की सच्चाई है,तो मन के भटकाव पर लगाम लगाना जरूरी है।जीतना महसुस करोगे उतना कठिन होता जाएगा।मेरी जीन्दगी इसी दौर मे चल रही है।आपकी हर बात 100%सही है।बच्चे भी तो बुज़ुर्ग हो रहे है
I am observing 70 years plus people from 2002 onward in Janakpuri, Anand Niketan, Shantiniketan a over hundred farmhouses in Chhatarpur, Bijwasan & Rajokari areas of Delhi. Your analysis is good. Some aspects need more attention. Delhi's demography suggest that UP wala population in Delhi is over 60% and prefer Noida- Greater Noida - Ghaziabad over Haryana location for residence. 4th or 5th generation people who are NRI and whose parents are residing in posh or super posh colony of Delhi , they prefer Gurgaon over UP, similarly 20 % combined population of Delhi, whose origin is either Haryana or Rajsthan, they prefer Haryana. Remaining population has mixed thoughts. Recreation and Dispensary play a great role. Near by CGHS Dispensary attracts central government employees, nearby insurance empanelled hospital attracts creamy layer of Delhi population.
Old age home clusters in periphery of Delhi and other mega metro will be required more to cater 74 years plus people in coming years. Currently it has scope in thousands but after 20 years it will be in lakhs. After demise of old people, how that property will go to inheritance and demography will be maintained in old age home.
Practical observation
100% correct. Need senior citizen homes like normal homes in big cities itself. Big cities have already become extremely convenient. Definitely much more convenient than tier 2/3 cities
Jabardast topic with jabardast analysis! The good thing is that you see things in typical Indian contexts. 👍
Your suggestion about such facilities should be in big cities having specialized medical care is real valid suggestion. I had not thought from this point of view. Thanks for your wisdom.
Sir , I always look upto your no nonsense , balanced and logical views in our Indian context. The old age homes need to be economically viable also . Sr.citizens also should not expect ALL their expectations to be fulfilled. Baki you have covered everything.
Your view that old age home should be in surroundings which you are familiar with is absolutely true. People are fooled by brochures stating Doctors on call.
Ideal thing for a labour intensive society like ours is to create a new career path for youngsters of geriatric care and companionship.
I agree with you points.
I would like to add that any one above 40 years of age should take care of there physical health. I'll be most important investment they can give to there future.
Really thought provoking video sir.. Discussed in detail.. But i think your ideas shared in previous videos like staying nearby and taking care of parents sounds logical.. People can choose to stay in same place or same building in different units and live happily.
बिल्कुल सच कहा जो एनर्जी ग्रैंड डॉटर या ग्रैंडसन को देखकर आती है वह किसी औऱ से नहीं आ सकती है हमारा कल्चर ही ऐसा है
sir is talking the realistic issues, really long life is a suffering,
especially the single elders in next 10-15-20 years is very much realistic,
nothing matches the luck of those who have family and living with them, takign care of their needs, running their errands etc,
the funny reality at the end is right - "pahaad par rahne ka shanthi"
There are a lot of assisted living facilities around Coimbatore and they are in good demand in the south. As you said a lot of parents left behind by NRI children are opting for these. if you move there in your 60s, you can make friends and fall into their routine. They also have programs for fitness and in house temple etc. But as you said I don't know how people over 80 would feel living in such facilities.
I am 35 and a single mom. and yes I will definitely buy myself a flat for my post retirement. we are the generation of mostly 1 child so we should plan for our old age, scary for me 🥺🥺. Also from haryana.
Absolutely right... I need "Shanti"... They want " Kranti"... :D means some kind of action, drama... Something to pass their time!!
Hi excellent analysis. Appreciate the time you have taken time to educate people looking ahead for their old age survival. This is a very important lesson for people already in their 50s and 60s. The ideal situation is for a mixture of normal and senior citizens living in a complex.
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I didn’t talk to someone from old generation, I screwed up on your presentation, and found it absolutely genuine and prudent. Thank you for sharing this wonderful initiative.
Thanks for details sir.its v eye opening.reality is v different than fantasy.life is becoming v difficult which we never thought in our Young age.the society has changed so much.no body has the time for Sr citizen.suddenly to face isolation v depressing.now I have to rethink about my future being lady alone.thank up v much sir.
One aspect that needs to be considered is that when the older generation passes away disposal of assisted living property becomes a problem. Most such communities have a minimum age requirement for residents hence choice of buyers is limited as compared to a regular apartment complex. This is mentioned in many studies of such properties abroad. In fact they recommend renting so that the hiers are not burdened with the problem of finding a suitable buyer. Also a couple may take a larger flat but when only 1 person is left a smaller place might be better. So some communities give the option of moving to a smaller place when necessary.
Another aspect is that as you say far from the city can also cause problems- medical, lack of various facilities close by and you become totally dependent on the staff of the community. This loss of independence can also be an issue for some people.
Fully agree with you
Best solution is, to keep ground floors in buildings for senior citizens with provisions of wheel chairs accessible and hand railing in bathrooms etc….
To remove the stigma it should be called seniors resort
If some company can attract the attention of HNIs & NRIs, it could be a hit project.
अंधे का नाम 'नयनसुख'
Did you even hear the video?. He said the concept of senior living itself is waste in india
Aap kahna kya chah rahe jo kuch samJh me n aa r h kya h oldage home h kya h
You are correct we need homes in proper cities with good hospital facilities
Aap ka video dekh kar alag par clear perspective mila. Bahut dhanyawad ji🙏
Your thinking is quite right. I am also
of 62 years. We need peace in our forties when we are overburdened with responsibilities of work and family.
Sir this is realty,I am 60 and you are absolutely right.What will single senior citizens do ,how they should arrange please make a video on this.
Excellent topic ,you are absolutely right ,Indians can't stay Very far away from the families 👍
Agreed Sirji... people above 80 years of age don't want Shanti ....they need some activity in their routine....
You are absolutely right,on each and every aspect,be it retirement home,psych of senior citizens and so on.Being a senior citizen myself, I am 68 yrs.old, I can relate to all that you said here,in this vlog.Thank you so much.
I fully agree with your views.
You r really eye opener for the senior citizens who r living in unrealistic imagination.
Very interesting video. I totally agree with your and Dinesh Kudwa ji, s comments that solution lies within in the existing societies. Only thing is to explore this aspect while launching new projects by builders to accommodate such flats with facilities required for senior citizens. Your views for development of eco system is worth.
Thank you so much sir Every person every family chahe ya na chahe to be, is raste se guzar na hi padata hai.Bahut UPAYUKTH Vishay.
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Very apt treatment of the sensitive subject. It’s time that nuclear family now turns to associate families - like father and son families in different flats but in same society. That way most things can be taken care.
A very thoughtful video with lot of hard facts. Difficult to make this decision.
Sirji your videos are amazing. full of reality and practical advise. Keep doing the wonderful work.
Every word you spoke was true to the core.. keep it up gentleman.. looking forward to some more such videos from you.. Thankyou sir you..
You are right. Medical facilities and helps are available conveniently available in cities only.
Very nice thinking. I am bujurg of 69 +, I am thinking of sr citizen homes like in coimbatur. Now after hearing your views I have to re think for next 15 20 years. In some places rental option exists. I think that should become affordable. I feel still, shanti chahiye. I have seen most of your vidios on relationship conflicts. 🙏
Where are your children uncle?
I agree and another thing in USA and other countries, senior citizen homes are rental and are expensive, as manpower is expensive there. In India the concept is new but more communities (existing) should have associations who can provide assistane to convert a flat into senior citizen friendly , like providing paid services to regularly get attendance of senior citizens, their wellbeing , in case of emergency thier kids are informed and sent them to hospital, one ambulance in each society, camera emergency buttons in each room, antiskid tiles , camera in drawing room etc. this will not isolate senior citizens. And someone suggested , senior citizen homes should be next to orphanage and gaushala where those who can , can help those in need , it will be mutual affection , in return will get positive energy.
Dear you have beautifully discussed seniors living in details. Seniors can't stand extremely cold or hot weather. You mentioned Dehradun it appears you not stayed there both seasons are extremes in Dehradun so I suggest only 3 cities have good weather around the year these are Bangalore, pune .Bangalore is very good city having all best medical facilities and best weather conditions. There is plenty of seniors living places. One should go there stay for some time if comfortable One should opet for this place. It's true we in India wants to live nearby to our kith and kins but they are so busy in taking care of their jobs and their own families and have no time to call you or wish good morning morning.
When you are criticality ill It's hospitals hospitals like vedanta,fortis, sir Ganga ram hospital,max,to mention a few .Apollo hospital is also good.
I feel One should be emotionally attached to ones own self ( body) .Financial security is a must. Remain pure vegetarian, no drinking and smoking, do meditation Remain busy in reading books of your choice and subject. I am 87 still by God's grace I am hale and hearty can take care of myself. My son is most caring loving and affectionate to me but his business is of hotel and restaurant in Goa where his presence is essential during day time at least and I don't expect that he should spend some time with me. So we at this age should not expect any thing from anyone at all.
Most important is Financial security.
My wife was paralyzed on the day i retired. As I had great time and love for her i looked after her for 16 years none else had time though I had 6 children. She passed away 2010.
I'm suffering from prostate cancer under treatment with PGI chandigarh fully Under control. Angioplasty was done on 11th February 2022 in medical college Goa .Now no problem.
I planned several times to shift to such seniors care homes ,my son is very practical when tempted by wonderful vedios of heavenly palace ludhiana i decided to live there because greatest problem is getting good domestic helps and I live alone in Himachal pradesh from March till October and in Goa with my son from November till Feb.
My son took me to heavenly palace ludhiana and I was shocked to see the reality. Most dangerous thing was one khalistani was there abusing Hindus and administration helpless to take any action. I found it an totally commercial institute. Very congested, only medical and physiotherapy facilities available. Anyway I suggest first select place where can enjoy weather conditions not to be tempted or dependence on vedios.
When you love yourself and keep Financial security you need not to worry what shall happen when I fell criticality ill .if any senior citizen interested to talk to me on this subject he can contact me at my mobile number 93572 49407
Hello Sir,Hope U are doing well!I am from W.B! I was impressed by Ur annecdote of living thd old age! I want to talk to U if possible!
Agreed with all your views I am 62 still working most probably will work till 65 by god grace and a divorce and have one son was always planning for old age home but realised two points maan nahi lagta and when you are really need care they don’t have that facilities
I agree with the critical examination of the subject and views expressed. Keeping in view the size of the family it will be difficult for the child to look after his old parents even if likes to look after. There is no option but go to sr. Citizen homes which may provide all services for assisted living of course on payment basis
I have been caring for my parents and many of my friend's parents whose children are settled out of India. Seeing the potential of assisted living, I have decided to build an apartment for seniors with all the facilities required. I have also realized that one day, I will require such a place to live if my children move away from home. So, I'm building this Assisted living apartment with most of my friends as buyers for our own future. But still, your thoughts are quite deep and very helpful to work on the process. Thank you.
This concept is good, I need such type of facility but only nearby Jaipur.
That point about mixed settings of apartments and populace is really valid point and need of the hour! 👍
Sir, u talk sense 😊mazza bhi ata hain aur seekhne ko bhi milta hain 👍
Excellent presentation on retirement homes.
You have a comprehensive vision on this topic. I would like to add one aspect regarding buying the property.
I really don’t understand the concept of buying a retirement home, instead it should be a rental one, so that the one who runs the show will have interest in serving the seniors living there. If one feels that the atmosphere/ service provided is not good, they should be able to leave with due notice.
I’m 65 years of age and feel that ultimately such facilities are very much needed.
Keep updating on this subject
Thank you so much. I'm 60 and have been thinking on these lines. Now I need to re think.
I am a senior citizen and I totally agree with you.
Superb like every topics Sir.
In Pune their are Aathashree sinear citizens homes they are better but not all facilities what you are now'discussed thanks useful for old people who are retired
Aptly said
It’s a call of the day now and things are required to be settled down instead of being emotional and dependent on our children we must decide about our retirement life asap
Absolutely right. Old age brings lot of medical and psychological problems. Emotional insecurities are always there. Money is there but does not solve problems. Care by outside help is becoming dangerous because of crime rise. This is a maze difficult to solve.
The decision to shift to such places for sr. citizens stay should be taken at sixty. Spouse didn't like the idea. however I gave her the option to agree or disagree to start the innings after visiting such place. We visited Heavenly Palace at Doraha in Punjab. She liked the place but is pending action. The place is too good. There are more than 400 rooms n 3-4 options from 25 thousands INR to 75 thousands INR per month. I have one son one daughter; son shifted to Canada with his wife n 2 sons. having own floor in Delhi; Daughter also in Delhi married. Rest You can assess.
You are really helping general masses.Regards.
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Why can't you live with your son?
@@AnkitKumar-kk3iw bhai jabardasti thode hi reh sakte hai jab tak bachhe parents ko na bulaye rehne ke liye.
@@OmPrakash-ie7sh jb baap ne bete ke liye itna kuch kiya..... to bete ki jimmewari hai ki wo unke budhape ka sahara bane
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@@AnkitKumar-kk3iw mai 28 ki Umar me 15k per month kama Raha hu ,shadi abhi nahi Hui hai, itta kam kamane Wale se koi karegi v nahi.mere dost Canada ja rahe the 2018 me afsos ho raha hai mujhe chale Jana chahiye tha. Yaar India me govt. Job mile tab hi sahi hai private me Kam paise milte hai and kaam v bahot jyada karwate hai and job ki v koi guarantee nahi hai. Log mazboori me India chhod kar chale jaate hai
This is amazing video sir.. You have really summed it well for youngsters .. Great job...
It is not a product of future but today. It will not only generate a lot of employment but also an option of community living for people who are filthy rich but alone due to numerous reasons. It would be better if project tie up with some hospitals and provide facilities like ambulance etc. It's a win win for ALL
Max India is already into this business . Pl study their web site and listen to their earnings call.
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You are absolutely right. Very well discussed all pros n cons. It may be good where children actually become indifferent towards their parents. Though parents can never abandon their children, at some point they hv to take a decision to shift to a place where they will be looked after. Only that much may give them some mental peace. Also, this buying a senior living or taking huge deposits concept is 100% wrong. I feel just fleecing money.
These should be available on rental basis with extra expenses on major medical conditions. Govt cn also think of providing group med insurance for such seniors living together at some nominal cost paid by residents. Concept is good but making money out of this noble cause is really bad. Max senior living costs 2-3Cr in NOIDA!! That is just d accommodation.
Perfect suggestions Sir and rents should be reasonable,they are too high in retirement homes, specially for single senior citizens
Amazing video.
All of it is common sense, but the funny thing is in today's world it has become so hard to hear someone talking in basic sense.
Being out of india, i see good demand of assisted living in india for parents.
Very good and required discussions. What is the solutions for senior citizens of towns? Some solution for middle class elders???
Sir, I highly appreciate ur opinion, I'm a senior citizen myself, yes we Indians r emotional n do require our children as we can't be detached fm them after a bond of so many yrs, Hence it's advisable for children to understand exactly that we only require their care n concern for us.
Retirement houses are the need already in the market
It will only increase
Emotion content which u mentioned is lost already when parents are old
well lots have changed i believe this is a very good product, as the parents are buying this to secure there futire living, funds issues can be resolved by reverse mortgage . when the person is not able to pay, then he can use his appartment for reverse mortgage. kids will still have opportunity to get the balance of the house after paying for the bank interest.
You are absolutely practical speaking
I am in this particular situation. I and husband are 61 and 62 yrs respectively, and have looked after both sets of parents through out our lives . Now only my mother is alive(96 complete) and she has always lived with us.We both our thoroughly tired of looking after her in a city like Mumbai. Our only son is 28 not yet married , and not yet settled in the US. We have started looking for old age home for ourselves but unable to decide where to go! We want to move into one when we reach 70 years of age.
Please share when you find something
I know how difficult it is to take care of aged people, when we we ourselves are senior citizens.
I am 63, me and my husband took care of my mother in law, till last year. She was 93 when she passed away....
Before that my bed ridden mother was with us for a few years.
It is truely tiring.
Swatiparekh, if you wish to go to a senior citizens home then don't wait till you become 70, you start looking for one immediately after 60. Because it really is a time taking & then thinking process. Me & husband visited a few near Mumbai & realised if we can live there or not! Most of these places allow you to stay there for a few days by paying there charges. So just go there, eat their food, see how things are working, how far it is from Mumbai, what about nearest medical facilities etc. If you find one, please inform us.
Good video very informative very practical say
An Insight thought process for future planning is excellent. Very awakening. Thank You.
Enligtening information. Àny studies done on elders who do not have children.
Very well explained. Thank you so much.
Very well explained. This would be future and written on the wall. I foresee and echo the same views. Your bring 30 years ahead things and discuss such pragmatic issues.
Agreed with you. So now what is the solution for people of 80 yrs plus. ?
There are many such settings in Pune. And they are well accepted in the higher middle class.
Excellent thoughts which are very practical. We do not want to disturb our children's career. They are facing so many issues in their life. I am also looking for a senior citizen apartment in Thane, Maharashtra.
Hahaha 😆 😂 correct sbko action chahiye in old age .shanti tto deadly hoti h .sbko utsaah khushi chahiye
Thanks sir ji very helpful video for old parents
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good video
Just that we need to see how good are these products
Recently i checked one out, it out side of town planning area & they said it's not Rera covered😲
Multi speciality hospital needs to be nearby considering age group...
Udvada Gujarat me ek Adhaar home hai, absolutely good support for Golden years citizen
Yeh concept bahut acha hai 🙏
Yes but Udvada one if full & there is wait list!
Our parents were not happy in city and we are not want to go village in old age 😇😇😇 so har society me ek alag tower bnao one bedroom ka jisme old age friendly furniture hona chahiye 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 subah park me apne grandchildren k sath khel kar apne flat vaapis chle jaye or khud k hisaab se life jine ka hak sabko h ji bahu bhi khus rehegi or har buyer ko ye ek flat khreedna jaruri ho discount rate pe milna chahiye / jis tower ka naam golden tower rakhna chahiye 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂 👵👴👵👴👵👴🕵
Nice thought! Agreed with this idea
Hii, I'm retired govt officer, my name is Shashikant Barot residing with my son in Mumbai, Andheri. I'm 65 yrs old my wife is 55. Hum sab happily bachcho ke sath yahan rahte hai. Mera apna Ghar hai virar me jise maine rent per de rakha hai, Muje pension mil Rahi hai ( 50 k ) aur Ghar ka kiraya ( 15 k ) + native me bhi city me ek makan hai aur encestor house gaon me hai jise marammat kar ke Naya banane ka plan hai. Hum Miya Bibi ye soch rahe thei ki ab hum apne flat me rahne chale jate hai, akele rahne ka bhi Anand uthate hai, aur gaon ka Ghar bhi hai, ate jate rahenge, samay pasar ho jayenga. Aaj apka vedio dekha aur suna maine phir thoda soch me pad gaya, kya bete aur bachchon ko chhod kar akele rahne ka vichar kahi galat to nahi hoga. Beta katai nahi chahta ki hum akele rahe. Bahu shayad khush ho sakti hai ki Hume bhi apni life indipendently jeene ka mauka milega aur bachchon ke saath age tarakki kar sakte hai. Aapke vichar sune aur achcha laga. Aapki Rai agar de sako to Khushi hogi.
Thanks Sir your advice is absolutely correct , would like to assist elders Iprovide to some needy people
Very knowledgeable content and presentation
I am 66 and wouldn't prefer to go to Senior citizens home.. Lots of negative energy as you rightly said... Better to be in your own flat if you are able to live by yourself
Product for future but the future is here. Such facilities close to good hospitals, banks and convienence store could be saleable option .
Aap ne samasya ki bilkool thik nabz pakri hai hamare bachhe itne bhi bure nahi hote bas aapni majburion me jakre hote hai papi pet ka sawal h aagar old age homes ko nearby full-fledged hospitals ke sath attached Kiya ja sake just like ews qotas in school admissions tab oldage homes shahar ke vibhinn jagaho me banaye ja sakte hain
Oldage home ke sare log ek hi sath to seriously bomar nahi ho jate do char log he ek time me jyada bimar ho sakte hain baki chhoti pareshani to attached docter hi sambhal sakte hain
Realistic approach 😊
Good analysis speaks the real picture please send place and how to join with all current information thanks
Wise,problem is with single senior citizens.
Sir your analysis is excellent and true
I AM 75 I DO NOT WANT SHANTI I WANT ACTION IN LIFE
But your childrens wants shanti 😂😂😂😂
Great. Keep up the action young man.❤
Jaiii baat
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