just a routine inspection UNTIL
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- UNTIL I FOUND THIS... LOL Ok, ok it really was just a routine inspection. I was out checking on the two hives that I split earlier this year. My inspection was for the condition of the hives and to see how the "towel trick beetle trap" is working. You'll see how that is going. At the end I have a bit of a surprise...
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The more bee videos that I watch the less I understand. Confusing/ conflicting information.
Suburban Hillbilly because he doesn't know what he's doing, he's making many mistakes, also don't ever use plastic.
What is confusing?
What questions do you have?
J & B Homeliving thank you for your nice reply but bees will have to wait. "Life happened". But thank You
Your welcome.
You can ask 5 different bee keepers the same question and get 7 different answers.
Looking at the honeycomb makes my brain crawl
For the first hive, their food storage is low and as you can see, they are not building new comb while the old ones are getting very dark, which may become a habitat for unwanted desease. Strengthen the weaker hive with a frame or two of seal brood from Hive #2. place the darker frames with seal brood to the outer section of the entire brood nest then separate it with a new frame with foundation and put some sugar syrup on this hive. One week later you should see a major difference.
Thank you
I didn’t think you could mix hives
Skye Jamieson you can if you apply sugar water mix to the bees as they are enticed to clean it up for storage and it masks the scent of the box they came from. Also he suggested sealed brood, so the frame could be shaken to remove the nurse bees and then just the brood can be added.
Why are you using mediums?
So I'm getting into beekeeping, I'm just researching as of now. But is the comb supposed to be that darkish gray color? I know you said you had beetles but its good to know.
the comb will get darker with each season. Some beekeepers like to refresh the comb (take it out and let them rebuild) every 3 years so there is little build up of pesticides in the hive.
1:34 There is a lot and I mean a lot of spaces that beetles can hide and and the bees can not even get to them. The outer frame of the plastic frame is like a hotel for the beetles with a lot of security that the bees will not get to them.
Just look at all those nooks and crannies all around the frame.
Lay a wooden frame and a plastic frame side by side and you will see how many hiding spaces you provide with the plastic frame and compare it to the wooden frame.
I guess someone told you wrong just to make a sell.
You must have about about 9 feet of hiding spaces per plastic frame on both sides ( around the frame) per frame.
So if you have a 10 frame hive, you have about 90 feet of beetle hotel hiding spaces per hive with those 10 plastic frames.
Bees can never protect that much area. Makes the beetle problem worse.
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J & B Homelisaw the plastic framing thought same. beetles have plenty of hiding spots and I know zero about bees.
I have to admit that I cringed when you put those plastic frames in there. Maybe I'm a purist but....Plastic? I've heard that bees don't like it and are slow to build on it. I'll be interested to see how your bees take to it. Oh, and I just put a Beetle Baffle on a hive. I'll let you know if it works.
Liz Spencer how is that beetle thingy going?
Oh my trypophobia ! 🙀🙈
shizukagozen777 haha I was looking for this comment. why do we do this to ourselfs?!
princessofthehippies
IDFK !!!! 😣😂
Remember the smoke the area AROUND the bee hive and not the bees themselves.
I'm learning :)
? You Are supposed to smoke the bees. You smoke the mouth of the hive then when you poo the lid you smoke the too. It makes them drunk.
3:27 the queen is on the top right corner
as he says that
Which one is it how can you tell, they all look same to me like this
Blake, I've always heard that the plastic frames give the beetles more hiding places. I do not use them, but good luck with them.
I may have misunderstood. I'm finding that the beetles do hide quite well in these frames.
That IS the purpose of the holes in those plastic frames. It gives places for the beetles to hide. What is supposed to happen thereafter is, that the bees are supposed to hold the beetles there and then cap them over, thus suffocating them.
But even better than the plastic frames (which the bees generally don't like) is the use of beetle traps. Why aren't you using them?
There are a number of designs:
One type hangs between the tops of two frames, and you put a little vegetable oil in it. The bees chase the beetles into it, the beetle falls into the oil and drowns. Vegetable oil is not harmful to the bees. The traps are easy to clean out and reuse. These are readily available on ebay.
Another beetle trap is, to use just an old CD case (the crystal cases, not the big DVD cases, black ones work best, provides a darker hiding place). You notch a little hole in 3 or 4 edges of the case, just big enough for the beetles but too small for the bees, close it and put it in the bottom of the hive. The bees chase the beetles into it, then they propolize the holes in the case shut, thus starving the beetles. Some beekeepers will alternatively place a small dab of Boric Acid mixed with Crisco grease or something similar near the center of the CD case to kill the beetle. Just make sure that the bees cannot get into the case to get to the Boric Acid, and make sure that the Boric Acid stays in the case. The Boric Acid destroys the beetle's ability to digest, the same that it does against roaches. If a beetle injests the BA and then escapes the trap, its no big deal. He will die, and the bees do not eat him. If anything, they will simply kick his carcass out of the hive.
P.S. I am not a fan of plastic frames. Even though it may have been the intention of the designers of the plastic frames to provide "jail-cells" for the beetles, if the bees cannot cap them quick enough and there become too many beetles, then the bees will become too busy guarding the beetles, which will divert them away from other duties, thereby reducing productivity.
Blake, on the split that is not doing as well, maybe you should put a frame or two of brood and bees to help bolster them, and to help chase those darn beetles to your towels. Just an idea, what do you think?
That sounds like a good idea. Maybe I'll rob one of the stronger hives for that. I've made some adjustments over there too but somehow all my video with that information had no audio. I'll get back out there to discuss all that soon. Thanks for the ideas!
Just make sure to not take the queen! :D
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Hey, Blake have you considered putting another wooden box/cell on top, with a Queen mesh/filter? The advantage that brings is that brood is kept up in that cell, that way your main production cell, has no brood in it...makes life easier. Just a thought, cool if you are doing this more naturally or for specific reasons (creating more colony's), but my bee mentor swears by a queen filter, and seperates the "Nursery" from the "Factory"... ;) Great stuff liked and subbed.
I just started using the queen filters / excluders this season. Much of my information has been from way too many sources over the years. Some of it is starting to settle in and make sense to me now. Thanks!
Do you ever take stills of the clips to look for the queen Blake? I've seen folks mark their queens is that something that's common to do?
Cheers mate & have a great weekend.
I marked the queen after she started to lay.
After the hive got stronger and had many more bees in it, it made it almost impossible to look through frames and frames to look for a marked queen.
When I took the picture for my avatar.... the frame I am holding there, I did not even know that the queen was on it until I downloaded the picture to my computer and on that frame there where not to many bees to start with.
I do not look for the queen anymore. I look at the frames. I look at brood patterns, eggs and larvae and caped brood on the same frame equals a queen.
Mostly drone brood equals no Queen. Up to 20 % drone brood is normal, depending of time of year.
A hive that is to noisy may equals no queen.
A hive that over aggressive may equal no queen or there may something else wrong with it like over heating inside the hive etc etc,
Spotted brood pattern Equals no queen
2 or more eggs per cell equals no queen.
Just read and look at your frames and listen to the hive.
Be careful when marking queens.
Never mark a virgin queen, she may be rejected as a not normal queen and may be killed by the workers.
A mated queen can be marked and most at the time she will be readily accepted to carry on with the throne. It is easier to find that marked queen in a smaller population, but if the bees population expand and you have thousands of bees increase in the hive it may be a task. A queen excluder may help to keep the queen in one box or 2 boxes, but going through 10 or 20 frames to find the queen may still be a task and time consuming while worker bees are flying around you.
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Sounds like maybe moving your food to the walls, and putting your undrawn frames checker boarded in the brood area, I keep hearing how the Queen doesn't like to cross the food to lay.. As for the beetles, remember they fly, so you will never STOP them from flying to your hives, but you can use the Tar Paper suggestion, to stop them from going into the ground beneath, and actually maturing directly below your hives... another thing that would be of great help is Diatomaceous Earth.. Myself personally, I will get Food Grade, but others use the stuff in the garden department, that kills ground bugs.. You could put it under the Tar Paper (though you don't have to) to keep down other crawling bugs as well
just a routine inspection until suddenly....Clickbait!
+Blake Kirby There is a great resource for you in the answer below mine. Hope you got it worked out.
Really interesting.
Queen bee , " Is this going on U tube ???? Cause if it does , you owe me something Sugar ... some music !!!!! whatever ... but you owe me .
Another way to keep beetle pop down is ti introduce nematodes into the soil around hives. They eat hive beetle larvae. Glad to see you using 4.9 supercell foundation. But work it to the center. If you are trying to get your bees regressed to 4.9 you need the queen to lay in them. I think it will help with the hive beetles too. The small bees you see are probably newly hatched.
The bees needs feeding, and don't use plastic. What are you doing????and yep I saw the queen.
Yes, routine. Should make that clear otherwise we have something like click bait.
Blake you need to put those 4.9 in your brood area. That outside frame will never be a brood frame. I would suggest that that 4.9 be placed on each side of the frames that actually contain brood. You may find that the bees will not use the plastic as long as they have any other place to build. To help encourage use, coat the foundation with a thin layer of wax. I stress thin but even.
Turn a hive body on end and sit to work.
These 4.9 frames came coated with wax. That should be enough, right?
I have never used these so obviously you must suspect my opinion. I have only just seen you followup video where you reminded us that your bees are already using plastic foundation so they are already use to plastic so this maybe a moot point. Give it a few days and check just the new frames. If they are not working them, then consider adding some wax. Just melt a small amount of wax in a can take a small clean bush and brush it on. Again if your logic is to bring your bees to a smaller cell bee then those frames must be within the brood nest. Being on the outside of the box does not make them brood comb. You will not need to move them now but will soon, if you want brood in them.
Great points. I'll move them next time I go out there.
Bees are amazing. I think my hubby is getting bee "stuff" for Father's Day.
Fun fun!
plant oregano all under the hives, it will eliminate hive beetles. They avoid it hardcore.
Good video, Blake. Glad your hives are doing well.
Have you considered going with horizontal hives? Here's one I built facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1235800843198120&set=a.1229880193790185.1073741864.100003046483109&type=3&theater it holds 30 deep frames and a follower board (to control how far back they'll go), the equivalent of a brood box and two deep supers.
I have considered that! I still like the idea. Hopefully once the apiary is moved I can try this out.
Plastic frames are the worst
Trust me you are gonna end up takin em out
Would love a livestream or video on basic terminology (bee keeping).
So what kind of damage can the beetles do to a hive? Also, is it common for the comb to turn that dark color? What causes that?
If the beetles successfully breed in the hive, their larva will chew through the honey and wax leaving a gooey slimy mess behind. They will destroy a hive if the bees (or beekeeper) don't keep them in check. Comb turns dark with time. Many times the brood chamber turns very dark because it's never harvested. The wax turns to almost like a thick paper too when it gets dark. It no longer melts.
Blakes description of the beetle mess is right-on. It is awful and it stinks.
The darkness if the comb is the result of a number of factors. When honeycomb is brandnew, it is translucent white and very soft. As the bees work it again and again, they are combining the wax with fluids from within their bodies. With time this produces a yellowing effect. What has a more pronounced effect on the colour is that when a bee transforms from egg to pupae to bee, and then emerges, there are materials left behind in the cells. Even after the cleaner-bees have cleaned the cell for the next egg, much of these materials remain behind in the walls of the cell. Each bee that emerges from this reused cell leaves behind his deposit. Additionally, the cells are also used to store honey and/or pollen throghout the "lifespan" of the cell. These materials leave behind traces. Each cell may be used many times for brood before it is later used for pollen or honey, and it can be used again for brood after it has been used for honey or pollen. And we must also consider that there are contaminants from the environment outside the hive that are brought into the hive by the bees themselves (pollution, dust, pesticides, herbicides, etc.). All of this together turns the honeycomb darker as time passes.
As a general rule, honeycomb that is used for "in-jar" consumption should be as new and clean as possiblle in order to avoid the contaminations of pesticides and herbicides.
The bees are very loud, are you sure there is a queen? Just saying.
Try swapping the towels with used dryer sheets. The microfiber in them traps the feet of the SHB
why did they all just decide to attack your hand at 11:44? xD
white text on same color boxes not easy to read but I got it :) thanks for sharing they all look strong to me :)
looks like you need a smaller box for that hive
You and your bees have come a long way since last year. "Good on You!" You might want to consider pyrimiding that last hive if you really want to fill both deeps with brood. I do not know the time of your main nectar flow you might be a little late to fill another deep, but it is certainly worth a try. Again you have come far. Good use of the smoke. I did not see any angry bees.
I do have some thoughts on the bettle issue but that may take a bit of question and answer dialogue.
We can dialogue here or in email. Either way is good for me! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. :)
My main question was concerning where you are seeing the SHB most. You are using an inner cover with hole in it. Are the bees not driving most of the SHB above the inner cover?
There are a few above the inner cover, but there are loads down on the solid bottom board. In the hive with the screen bottom board I'm seeing more up around the under side of the inner cover.
My thinking will not help. Three years without bees dulls the memory but I remember most beetles in the top of the hive, but then I do not use inner covers maybe that makes a difference. If the beetles were being driven above the inner cover, I was going to suggest moving the towels above the inner cover and cover all the top of the inner cover except the center hole. It might still be worth trying. Especially if the towel laying on the inner cover changed the space to something too small to accommodate the bees but large enough for the beetles. In time it could become a refuge for the beetles. A long shot but who knows without trying.
Hello Blake, I see that you are trying to do somethimg , but you are in the wrong direction. Some advice: 1- you don't have a minimal food in this hive...no honey at all. As it looks you will not reach the next season without 20 kg of shugar syrup . 2- Your old frames are deformed and they should be replaced( to prepare a new place for new brood). 3-By watching at the bees, I see that they have the "K" wing shape, and this is a sign of infestation/illness , 4- You have an old queen, who is layng eggs with difficulty , see the empty spaces in the brood cells. 5- if the hive has no food, the bees will never ever build a new frame, especially a plastic frame who is more difficult to build than a wax one. 6- The bees are running on the frames, wich is not a good sign. They are verry agitated ( causes: food shortage or missing queen) All the best in raising bees, it is a verry nice hobby.
How raised are the boxes? Maybe they need to be higher off the ground to get less beetles?
Don't think it makes much difference, Claes. Top bar hives get the little buggers too, sadly. :/
We sit our hives 4 to a pallet. About 4 inches off the dirt. No beetles.
Never had honeycomb but I want one
I found the gaps along the edges of plastic frames made for great hive beetle breeding and hiding spaces. I will never put them in my hives again.
Im shocked the bees let the beetles in at all, like i get they have a think exo but still
Iv seen beekeepers use plastic sheet like thick window plastic across the hole top thay say it keeps the beatles from hiding on top and thay don't seem to have Beatle problems true or bull not shur but from what I seen it works.
If I have frames bees won't draw I add wax to the foundation and they usually will start drawing. Also when installing plastic foundation (with a good wax coating) I spray them down with sugar water with a touch of lemongrass oil to encourage them to accept it.
They look like Carniolians.
You should wash your gloves...
Until what's?
Bees are so awesome and amazing.
That clickbait ;) It is always fun looking for the queen in videos, but I wasn't able to find her either. Since there is brood in all stages, she should be okay :) I am not sure about the beetle statement at 1:41. I I were a hive beetle, I would love hiding in these indentations along the side of these frames, but time will show. It is worth a shot :)
UNTIL........... he lost the audio!!
Hey you need to remove all the comb on the bottom of the frames and there the comb is bubbled up is a good place for hive beetles to his at I have had bees for 49 years
Thank you.
For the beetle problem, try a Freeman bottom board on a hive. Use pickling lime to fill it.
For some reason while I was watching this video I was really itchy 😂😂🤦🏽♀️ I must have that phobia..
Very interesting!
I use the towels that are supposed to suck up 20 times more water, i hope you know what i mean. I'm impressed with your ability to make videos and do bee work all at once, keep up the good work.
Until what?
Don't the bees get upset when the frames are being removed?
Seems they would try to protect their honey from being stolen.
What do beatles do in hive?
Hey Blake, I was just thinking about those beetle towels. Maybe installing them perpendicular to the frames along the front and back of the box, rather than parallel along the sides, would be better. The bees don't seem very active along the outside frames near the sides where the towels are installed and won't chew the towels up, causing them to become extra fluffy to catch the beetles. Along the back and front of the hive covers some of the frames that the bees are on, allowing the bees to chew the towels and also chase the beetles onto them. Just a thought.
Good thought. I'll change that when I'm out there next time.
Blake Kirby 9
This is close to clickbait. Never go close to clickbait...its unhealthy. Other than that, an ok video.
What surprise?
I'm not a professional so I was wondering why you put medium frames in a deep box?
Me loves honey 🍯
Also, you got WAY too many beetles in there. You need to do more than just put those towels in the hive.
Not sure how those plastic frames control beetles with all those small holes along that plastic frame. Looks like there are a lot of places for the beetles to hide.
Good job
So cool!
Where did you read about plastic frames.there is more!,,,, places for beadles
That comb they have built out looks like dark PLA plastic.
2:56 there's a bee with a thing hanging down from its butt. What is that?
It looks like a stinger sac but I'm not sure why it would be like that in the middle of a frame. Normally that happens on my gloves when they try to sting and their venom sac gets pulled out.
Those killer bees or European bees ?
Most likely hybridized. The colony started out with a European queen, but when the hive replaces her, the new queen will mate with the local drones which most likely have some "killer" genetics.
Nicely done! Thanks for sharing the progress !!
Just out of curiosity, why are the beetles so bad for the hive?
If they lay eggs and they hatch, the larva are very destructive. They will tunnel through all the wax eating up all the resourced leaving behind a slimy mess.
Why is it so black? I thought it was supposed to be yellow🔶
I have a bumblebee problem here where I live what would be a good thing to remove them
Hey it MOBY
5:25 bottom left corner did that beetle escape or get destroyed by that bee?
Get rid of those Beatles before your bees abandon the hive!
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The medium frame is looking good
Have you tired hive beetle traps?
I have tried the oil filled traps. They really didn't seem to do enough good and they are messy.
A lot of professional bee keepers use them.
why is tghe comb black? are they healthy?
comb gets darker over time. It is not necessarily a sign of anything bad, but many beekeepers like to cycle it out to prevent build up of pesticides or diseases.
just added a medium on top of my 2 deeps. lots o bees :-)
sorry was the audio the surprise? im new to bees
What was that yellow thing the bees butt?
I maybe keep a colony when i think i can manage it
Not beetles
why dont the bees sting the beetles?
what was the surprise other than losing your audio?
yep, that was it. I was surprised that I had no audio.
I just modified the description. The words "tossed in" were a bit misleading. The surprise was mostly mine LOL. I edit these things late at night and am not always thinking straight!
I guess the surprise could be too that I chose not to use a Super, but rather a Deep box. However... that would be a rather boring surprise LOL
A super can be of any size. It's the location not the size that gives the name here.
You just used click bait to get views. Losing your audio is an incredibly boring surprise.
Did u sugar shake this hive?
I don't like honey
Until what?
Could someone please tell me what is the white/light yellow thing that is attached to the behind of one bee you can see 2:50-3:01? :)
I think it's a stinger hanging out. She must have tried to sting something and pulled the stinger out.
Hey Blake, you should think about making an interesting video sometime.
Great idea! For years now I really thought people wanted the boring stuff. Thanks!
Blake Kirby J & B Homeliving left a fantastic response that is at the top of the comment section. Best of luck. Be safe!
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def going to be having bees in my farm 😀
Ro bees are awesome addition to a farm. Let us know when you get your first nuc. We got our suits and tools before and then eventually got some boxes and soon you’ll have bees. It’s very easy and fun I highly recommend.
why do idiot humans insist on exploiting bees for THEIR honey? why do you wear that suit? why use that bottle to smoke them out? how about let them bee wild and just leave them alone?
what the hell makes you think they are not ours.... I personally just breed all of my hives one by one so they are absolutely mine... jeez grow some braincells buddy
Nothing interesting happens. I want my 13 minuets back. You also get a dislike
Are beetles particular to the USA ?
Where's the super?